I've used this technique you taught me on your VCR tapes for 30 years! It's a wonderful technique for making boxes. Just keep the bevel rubbing, even while it's upside-down. Gentle pressure on the bevel. Works like magic! Thank you Richard!
Yes, and a huge contribution to my success with this technique is the wings need to be spoon shaped, at least for me.I have never been able to do this with a gouge someone has sharpened on a jig. Maybe I am to stupid to use a jigs correctly to achieve the nice spoon wings, which is quite possible as I know must folks use these jigs.
@Edward Chapman I sharpen on a Wolverine jig. The secret is to keep the bevel rubbing the wood with light pressure, even though it's upside-down. Keep trying - when you get the feel, it's effortless. Light touch.
Hello colleague. Very glad to see.How glad I am that a person has appeared who works correctly. This is very good work. So the European style is very good.My work style is different. But you are doing great. Excellent wood cutting.👍👍👍👍👍👍
I learned this from Mr Raffan's videos decades ago. Once mastered it is an amazing way to hollow small work, so fast and smooth and really not too difficult.
Richard, greetings from Virginia Beach Virginia! Thanks for an awesome demonstration as usual! I have watched it now about 17 times, just to get as much out of it as possible! I learned a lot from your techniques and explanations. Thanks again! Amos
Dear Richard, thank you so much for this video. I have just realized I could have turned all my wooden cups a lot easier by using your method with the bowl / spindle gouge, , if I had only watched this video earlier.
Richard, now your just showing out. I'm scared to even try this. You make it look so easy. This is a beautiful cut. I just keep watching this video over and over. Thank you for posting your videos, there are great. I have learned so much from them.
One of the most enjoyable techniques of all turning! and that little pimple in the bottom will never sand out you must remove it with a scraper to get the nice clean flowing line I once hear smooth flowing movements lead to smooth flowing lines of course we all know who that was Mr Richard Raffan ,Thanks Richard once again for sharing such wisdom.
Hello Richard! This is bay far the best Woodturning instructional video I’ve seen anywhere. This is a technique I’ve heard of, tried once or twice heath rather explosive results) and took the quit while I’m ahead route. Today I saw clearly what I was doing wrong (everything) and will be giving this a serious effort in near future. Thanks so much for sharing!
This technique and it's variants have been around for a very long time. You can expect to have quite a few catches and totally split blanks learning to get the balance right. As always minimal tool pressure against the wood is the key. Learning on blanks projecting less than 4-in/100mm from the chuck makes catches less exciting.
Great lesson , from a woodturner with a long experience , who has learned to really feel the tool , who even sharpens them his own way , that have somehow become an extension of his hands but for less gifted people it is a challenge , first to just dare turn that way but it's worth taking it up , slowly and carefully..
Thanks Ritchard you make it look so easy this is one of those techniques ive bin watching you and Thomas do that i realy want to learn is it that easy on dry wood or harder to do
Only just found out it's a thing.. I been playing around with homemade mini lathe. Never used one before . But I did actually use this technique already and found it very effective.. I'm self taught at most things.
Thank you for putting this video up. I have seen very few use this technique so had difficulty putting it into practise but this video has helped me a great deal although I’ve still a way to go.
Thank you very much for this demonstration! By chance I discovered all by myself this method of hollowing and I was unsure of it. Now I know that this is the way to go❤️
Awsome demo..... I did try it myself a while ago and its really great way to remove bulk,a bit more practice on my part but love this trick to have in my repertoar ..... Thank you mr. Richard
Brilliant! I can't wait to try it. I learned primarily from RUclips wood turners like Mike Waldt and others who have enabled me to create some cool stuff. Hollowing has been intimidating and exciting... this technique looks like it will reduce time and risk. Thanks for sharing!
Mike Waldt is good. Back hollowing is fast once you get the hang of it, but expect to heave blanks out of the chuck at first, and expect to split a few walls as they get thin.
@@RichardRaffanwoodturning I wasn't in a hurry to try it but after reading this comment and thinking how spectacular that must be, I'm going to give it a few gos this evening.
Obviously one needs a pretty good supply of green stock as it will take a bit of practice. I will need to run this video again and a bit slower in order to see how the tool encounters the work. Thank you for sharing. Have a great 2022 and stay safe.👍
Impressive. I'd be wary to try it myself, if it weren't for that excellent explanation and demonstration of why it works. Today I was praising new forstner bits and an extension, and they will help me in a lot pf circumstances. But not in basic box making once I figure out Mr. Raffan's method.
This is really cool!! I had no idea you could do that! Very nice and hollows so much faster than normal! Will continue to watch your videos sir! Thank you!!
Thanks for another informative video. I haven’t tried this technique yet, but I may after my shark jaw order for my Axminster chuck arrives. Cheers, Tom
Be prepared for heavy catches and heaving blanks out of the chuck as you learn. Best at first to used blanks projecting less than 100mm (4-in) from the chuck.
@@RichardRaffanwoodturning The catches are a given watching the video. If the tool, blank, and me survive it will be a efficient means of hollowing. I enjoy your RUclips videos as well as your DVD’s. I am some what new to woodturning with about 20 bowls and boxes to my credit. With some of the credit to you thanks
Thank you, I’ve always wondered about the mechanics of that hollowing method. Given how aggressive the cut is though, would you reserve it solely for green, or semi-green wood? Thanks again for the very informative videos.
Hi Richard am I right in thinking back hollowing only suitable with wood approx 60ml or is it possible to backholow larger pieces like 200ml. From a beginner. Kind regards
I have used back hollowing inside 130mm diameter to a depth of about 150mm using a 1-in. gouge, but wouldn't recomment it as it gets far too exciting - and there are way more effecient methods for hollowing endgrain on a larger scale. Best to keep back hollowing for removing the insides of 75mm diameters.
Very good video, I was a bit scared to use my spindle gouge and instead used my scraper and wonder cup tool. Only problem was that I had a huge amount of vibration and it took me ages.
I have been trying this one without great success yet. I seem to get a lot of vibration and then small catches, especially as the gouge emerges from the wood. I’ll keep at it though!
Hollowing deeper into endgrain I drill a depth hole first, then back hollow to about 75mm/3in, maybe slightly more depending on the diameter of the opening. After that it's scrapers, typically using a ¾-in square end scraper x ⅜-in thick, and a similar size round-nose to finish if the inside involves curves. The techniques are similar to those used for the pencil pot video.
Fortunately I say at the beginning it's green box elder, because I wouldn't remember. The technique is just as effective on well-seasoned exotic hardwoods like cocobolo or gidgee.
Being left handed makes life difficult for a lot of turners, but it sounds like you've found a solution to hollowing. I can't really offer advice without know a lot more about your mobility. It's the sort of thing that needs hands-on advice.
Back hollowing works just as well on Mulga, gidgee, African blackwood, cocobolo. I don't recall a wood I couldn't back hollow into when it was the only technique I knew..
Man! No matter how long I watch you deftly moving that tool around the wood I justhave to watch a little bitmore... Its time togo to bed-its 1:30 in the morning! OK, I will just get another piece of toast while you make a box in 5 seconds!!Oh! Theres a video on the skew chisel; I NEED to see how youdo that! And on it goes! Again, it just seems you decide to do something with a piece of wood, and it jumps and says" OK! do you want that in blue? purple? Yessir! Right away sir!I swear, you could do all this with youreyes closed! Its time for church! I can't look anymore!
I have just watched before this vid a Russian guy do what you did but with a razor sharp skew and double edged hook tool apparently made from high carbon steel and your video appeared next
I've never encountered a timber I couldn't hollow using this technique. I've never heard of angelique but I doubt it's much harder or as hard as Aftican blackwood, gidgee, cocobolo, mulga, hard maple, Cooktown iron wood or other assorted very hard exotic hardwoods that I've used in production or in response to similar challenges during club demonstrations. If angelique is popular and commmercially available in your part of the world, chances are it'll be easy to work.
Everyone of Richard Raffan's videos are always very helpful and informative too
End grain always bothered me until now this was the best video ever. Thanks for the tips
You're a legend in the wood turning world! Your high skill level has definitely elevated mine. Love your videos, thank you!
Most detailed explanation I have seen or read on the topic to date. Your videos now have the missing parts filled in. Very useful. Thanks!
I've used this technique you taught me on your VCR tapes for 30 years! It's a wonderful technique for making boxes. Just keep the bevel rubbing, even while it's upside-down. Gentle pressure on the bevel. Works like magic! Thank you Richard!
Yes, and a huge contribution to my success with this technique is the wings need to be spoon shaped, at least for me.I have never been able to do this with a gouge someone has sharpened on a jig. Maybe I am to stupid to use a jigs correctly to achieve the nice spoon wings, which is quite possible as I know must folks use these jigs.
@Edward Chapman I sharpen on a Wolverine jig. The secret is to keep the bevel rubbing the wood with light pressure, even though it's upside-down. Keep trying - when you get the feel, it's effortless. Light touch.
Great demo, as usual. My wife looked in as you plunged in and was very impressed. Next comment was, "I'm glad he's not my dentist!
Hello colleague. Very glad to see.How glad I am that a person has appeared who works correctly. This is very good work. So the European style is very good.My work style is different. But you are doing great. Excellent wood cutting.👍👍👍👍👍👍
I learned this from Mr Raffan's videos decades ago. Once mastered it is an amazing way to hollow small work, so fast and smooth and really not too difficult.
Richard, greetings from Virginia Beach Virginia! Thanks for an awesome demonstration as usual! I have watched it now about 17 times, just to get as much out of it as possible! I learned a lot from your techniques and explanations. Thanks again!
Amos
Dear Richard, thank you so much for this video. I have just realized I could have turned all my wooden cups a lot easier by using your method with the bowl / spindle gouge, , if I had only watched this video earlier.
Richard, now your just showing out. I'm scared to even try this. You make it look so easy.
This is a beautiful cut. I just keep watching this video over and over.
Thank you for posting your videos, there are great. I have learned so much from them.
You should give it a go and expect a few bits to go flying before you get the hang of it.
Thank You - Greetings from Germany.
One of the most enjoyable techniques of all turning! and that little pimple in the bottom will never sand out you must remove it with a scraper to get the nice clean flowing line I once hear smooth flowing movements lead to smooth flowing lines of course we all know who that was Mr Richard Raffan ,Thanks Richard once again for sharing such wisdom.
Just amazing method of teaching.
Im still learning every time I watch and rewatch the videos.
Many thanks for sharing your knowledge
"Well, you don't have an object left".
That is a wonderful way of putting it.
Thank-you for this. I’ve read this in your box book and have seen other turners demo it, but this was the clearest explanation I have seen
Thank you. Always a pleasure to watch and learn from your expertise.
Awesome end grain turning video by the way! ✌🏼💫🪵
Hello Richard! This is bay far the best Woodturning instructional video I’ve seen anywhere. This is a technique I’ve heard of, tried once or twice heath rather explosive results) and took the quit while I’m ahead route. Today I saw clearly what I was doing wrong (everything) and will be giving this a serious effort in near future. Thanks so much for sharing!
This technique and it's variants have been around for a very long time. You can expect to have quite a few catches and totally split blanks learning to get the balance right. As always minimal tool pressure against the wood is the key. Learning on blanks projecting less than 4-in/100mm from the chuck makes catches less exciting.
Great lesson , from a woodturner with a long experience , who has learned to really feel the tool , who even sharpens them his own way , that have somehow become an extension of his hands but for less gifted people it is a challenge , first to just dare turn that way but it's worth taking it up , slowly and carefully..
Great demo Richard
Cheers
Mike
Great Explanation Richard. Thanks you for sharing your years of knowledge.
Really interesting technique! Thank you very much for sharing it with us!
Thank you for the demonstration. This is one of few cuts I couldn't get from your book.
Excellent video Richard, really appreciate you doing these, thanks for sharing. Off to the next one, lol.
Thanks Ritchard you make it look so easy this is one of those techniques ive bin watching you and Thomas do that i realy want to learn is it that easy on dry wood or harder to do
Really helpful. I took a few screen shots at key points to write on and jog my memory. Now to practice.
Only just found out it's a thing.. I been playing around with homemade mini lathe. Never used one before . But I did actually use this technique already and found it very effective.. I'm self taught at most things.
Thank you for putting this video up. I have seen very few use this technique so had difficulty putting it into practise but this video has helped me a great deal although I’ve still a way to go.
Thank you very much for this demonstration!
By chance I discovered all by myself this method of hollowing and I was unsure of it. Now I know that this is the way to go❤️
Awsome demo..... I did try it myself a while ago and its really great way to remove bulk,a bit more practice on my part but love this trick to have in my repertoar ..... Thank you mr. Richard
Brilliant! I can't wait to try it. I learned primarily from RUclips wood turners like Mike Waldt and others who have enabled me to create some cool stuff. Hollowing has been intimidating and exciting... this technique looks like it will reduce time and risk. Thanks for sharing!
Mike Waldt is good. Back hollowing is fast once you get the hang of it, but expect to heave blanks out of the chuck at first, and expect to split a few walls as they get thin.
@@RichardRaffanwoodturning I wasn't in a hurry to try it but after reading this comment and thinking how spectacular that must be, I'm going to give it a few gos this evening.
@@smockytubers1188 Good luck. There's lots that can go wrong, so give it more than just a few goes.
Obviously one needs a pretty good supply of green stock as it will take a bit of practice. I will need to run this video again and a bit slower in order to see how the tool encounters the work. Thank you for sharing. Have a great 2022 and stay safe.👍
Thanks Richard for showing the technique.
Impressive. I'd be wary to try it myself, if it weren't for that excellent explanation and demonstration of why it works. Today I was praising new forstner bits and an extension, and they will help me in a lot pf circumstances. But not in basic box making once I figure out Mr. Raffan's method.
Don't be afraid! Try it on some scrap green wood. You'll throw away the fostner bits, this only takes seconds, with no set-ups.
This is really cool!! I had no idea you could do that! Very nice and hollows so much faster than normal! Will continue to watch your videos sir! Thank you!!
Exelent job! At what speed should you cut holes?
Thanks for another informative video. I haven’t tried this technique yet, but I may after my shark jaw order for my Axminster chuck arrives. Cheers, Tom
Most efficient way of hollowing a small end grain vessel l have seen will try soon
Be prepared for heavy catches and heaving blanks out of the chuck as you learn. Best at first to used blanks projecting less than 100mm (4-in) from the chuck.
@@RichardRaffanwoodturning The catches are a given watching the video. If the tool, blank, and me survive it will be a efficient means of hollowing. I enjoy your RUclips videos as well as your DVD’s. I am some what new to woodturning with about 20 bowls and boxes to my credit. With some of the credit to you thanks
'How does he do that without a catch?' I asked myself, just as he gets a catch. Certainly a very efficient technique.
C’est un excellent travail Richard et quel maîtrise des gouges bravo 🙏👍👏🇨🇭
Thank you, I’ve always wondered about the mechanics of that hollowing method. Given how aggressive the cut is though, would you reserve it solely for green, or semi-green wood? Thanks again for the very informative videos.
It works as well on tropical hardwoods but with less dramatic shavings.
Brilliant, thank you kindly
Thanks Richard - thanks for sharing your vast knowledge.
Hi Richard am I right in thinking back hollowing only suitable with wood approx 60ml or is it possible to backholow larger pieces like 200ml. From a beginner. Kind regards
I have used back hollowing inside 130mm diameter to a depth of about 150mm using a 1-in. gouge, but wouldn't recomment it as it gets far too exciting - and there are way more effecient methods for hollowing endgrain on a larger scale. Best to keep back hollowing for removing the insides of 75mm diameters.
Excellent tutorial Richard so many thanks.
Very good video, I was a bit scared to use my spindle gouge and instead used my scraper and wonder cup tool. Only problem was that I had a huge amount of vibration and it took me ages.
You should give it a go. Expect to pull blanks from the chuck and catches whilst learn, but once mastered it's a very satisfying technique. And fast.
Fantastic! Very useful demonstration.
Fantastic and underrated.
Very interesting. Thank you for sharing 🌞
Great information ... thanks for an excellent demo!
LOVE to watch a master !! Thank You !!
Excellent lesson, thank you very much.
Great demo, appreciated very much. Thanks,
I have been trying this one without great success yet. I seem to get a lot of vibration and then small catches, especially as the gouge emerges from the wood. I’ll keep at it though!
Perfect job, thank you so much for great video
Can I grind down my 1/2" straight across bowl gauge or will I need it elsewhere for sure please Richard? TIA!
Very interesting Richard. How would you approach a much deeper piece ?
Hollowing deeper into endgrain I drill a depth hole first, then back hollow to about 75mm/3in, maybe slightly more depending on the diameter of the opening. After that it's scrapers, typically using a ¾-in square end scraper x ⅜-in thick, and a similar size round-nose to finish if the inside involves curves. The techniques are similar to those used for the pencil pot video.
Excellent vid Thank you
Great video❤️
thanks for the instructions
I've got a question , were the logs wet or dry and what type of wood were they ?
Fortunately I say at the beginning it's green box elder, because I wouldn't remember. The technique is just as effective on well-seasoned exotic hardwoods like cocobolo or gidgee.
@@RichardRaffanwoodturning thank you
What kind of gouge do you use ? Just a normal spindle gouge it a fingernail one ?
Thanks Richard
Awesome. Thank you!
Thank you for this lesson! :)
Brilliant! What sort of grind are you using there? The spindle gouge looks shallow and I'm wondering what degree you sharpen to?
You get a good view of the edge from 2:50 to 3:30. The basic angle is 40°- 45° but it's removing the bevel angle (3:11) that makes cutting easier.
@@RichardRaffanwoodturning Thanks!
I'm left-handed and paraplegic and I'm using a right hand scraper to do the other side! Any other solutions?
Being left handed makes life difficult for a lot of turners, but it sounds like you've found a solution to hollowing. I can't really offer advice without know a lot more about your mobility. It's the sort of thing that needs hands-on advice.
Does this technique work with dry hardwood? Excellent demonstration, thank you. Greetings from Tasmania Australia.👍🇦🇺🦘
It works as well on hardwoods like gidgee and mulga or Tas. blackwood but with less dramatic shavings.
Nice. Il try again
Thank you
Masterclass!
I can only imagine not using this technique on exotic woods from South America.
Back hollowing works just as well on Mulga, gidgee, African blackwood, cocobolo. I don't recall a wood I couldn't back hollow into when it was the only technique I knew..
@@RichardRaffanwoodturning , and again, this technique is only used to hollow out end grain. Yes?
@@robertcornelius3514 Back hollowing is strictly for endgrain.
Thanks!
Magic!
Man! No matter how long I watch you deftly moving that tool around the wood I justhave to watch a little bitmore... Its time togo to bed-its 1:30 in the morning! OK, I will just get another piece of toast while you make a box in 5 seconds!!Oh! Theres a video on the skew chisel; I NEED to see how youdo that! And on it goes! Again, it just seems you decide to do something with a piece of wood, and it jumps and says" OK! do you want that in blue? purple? Yessir! Right away sir!I swear, you could do all this with youreyes closed! Its time for church! I can't look anymore!
I have just watched before this vid a Russian guy do what you did but with a razor sharp skew and double edged hook tool apparently made from high carbon steel and your video appeared next
It's an old technique for hogging out endgrain and the only one I was shown when I started turning in 1970.
Good good
GREEN box elder is the key here. Try to do this with a piece of Angelique wood. I dare you.
I've never encountered a timber I couldn't hollow using this technique. I've never heard of angelique but I doubt it's much harder or as hard as Aftican blackwood, gidgee, cocobolo, mulga, hard maple, Cooktown iron wood or other assorted very hard exotic hardwoods that I've used in production or in response to similar challenges during club demonstrations. If angelique is popular and commmercially available in your part of the world, chances are it'll be easy to work.
Thanks!