Love tooth of the arrow, for my trad setup I've been thinking of checking out ozcuts 2 blade, and was very surprised you haven't made a video on those yet! I research every head I consider through your testing! Lol
I just finished testing the new Ozcut Hurricane and the new Ozcut elite three. I have the elite twos as well, but they will not make it into this year‘s testing. I just have so many more Broadhead testing? I could possibly fit in.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures fair enough, I appreciate your response buddy! And all your testing videos. You do a great job truly testing each head in every way imaginable.
Hello, Enjoy your videos. As a 73 year old disabled veteran glad to see you shooting a crossbow. I shoot a crossbow because of disability, Excalibur, in your testing will the Tooth of the arrow be a good choice. Like fixed over mech. God bless you and yours Lloyd Vernon
I really like that pyramid tip, penetration, and the holes it put in that sheet metal. This is a nice design. I'm sure it could be sharpened a little better at home.
The only thing that would change is the sharpness. Sharpness has almost zero effect on penetration, believe it or not-at least in the mediums I test with. I’ve dulled heads with a steel file and had them penetrate almost as well as razor sharp heads of the same model.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures Hi John, really interesting observation. I see someone further in the comments related this head to the Ozcut 3 blade. I'm interested in seeing your review of the more recent stainless steel version of the Ozcut Hurricane - I just picked some of these up and they appear to be different in construction than the earlier version. I've found sharpening both versions to be doable but challenging - may not matter much if indeed it doesn't affect penetration significantly. Thanks for all you do for this community - it is important work.
I love testing Simmons. With my recent back surgery I doubt I can add it into 2024. I already have 40 more lined up to test and another 20 already done and scheduled to drop
@@LuskArcheryAdventures it was just an idea. If you get around to it eventually that’s great if not that you anyways for all the other fantastic information you give out
John Lusk, what are the top 5 3 blade heads you have tested. Like everyone else, im on a budget. Love the videos I've been watching for years. Keep them coming
Man, it’s hard to say. They’re are at least 50-maybe 100 that I’ve tested. There are the one piece 3 blades then the replaceable blade models. So many different cutting diameters, blade thicknesses, lengths, materials, etc. I just tested the new Kayuga that is probably the best penetrating. The Exodus is probably the best all round. The Bishop Holy Trinity is probably the toughest, the Cutthroat is amazing, as are the Valkyries. Just too many to pick the best.
Go with exodus. You won’t be disappointed. Or consider a two blade Magnus like the stinger or black hornet with bleeders - while not a 3 blade, Magnus warranty and customer service is unbeatable. They do make a 3-blade but I prefer their 2 blade designs.
If you had to choose, which head would get the nod? The 3 blade or 4 blade? I currently shoot Magnus 2 blade black hornet 125gr. I have taken 1 whitetail with them and the penetration was incredible. The wound channel and blood trail left something to be desired.
I’ve tried their solids and vented. I prefer their vented series. Just way easier to tune and better grouping for me. The solids might be better for someone else, but when you’re playing the 25 yd and in game with white tails. The sound the vented makes doesn’t matter.
Not bad, but I like the Ozcut 3B design better. Thicker blades and blades have more support at the ferrule. The weak connection where the blades meet the ferrule is a major design flaw on the TOTA 4 blades and this one doesn't look better.
I snapped blades clean off the ferrule on a standard 4 blade and XL, and talked to others that have had it happen as well. I don't think it would happen in a hunting situation but still a weak point.
Not a fan of solids. I get more shots out of replaceable blade broadheads because damage is easier to sharpen out and you can swap blades if too far gone. To each their own though. This does look like a tough head. Love your testing, btw.
Love your videos , only thing I would like to see is you go back to testing accuracy with a bow not a crossbow. I understand trying to take human error out of it , but crossbows just shoot fixed heads more accurately in my experiences.
Thanks for the feedback. Honestly, I have found just the opposite to be true. The crossbow is much more difficult to get fixed blade heads to fly well out of. So due to the consistency and repeatability, I really like using it for the accuracy testing. And overall, the heads that flew well out of my vertical Bell also fly well out of the crossbow. So the results are consistent.
I'm a huge fan of 3 blades but I don't understand the intent of this design outside of ease of sharpening... however the F4 sharpener fixes that. If you really need penetration go with their 2 blade single bevel. Otherwise I prefer the 4 blade regular solid (or vented) as this head is going to fly worse than it for most, cut less for a marginal improvement on bone. Ashby actually says that a 4 blade is better on bone. 2 planes of splitting vs 3. I really wish they kept the same total length of the 4 blade XL making the head have less surface area on the blades. Then added some thickness into the blades to get the weight right. The weakness of the XL version is the blades can snap off. This design has more surface area than needed and doesn't fix that issue. Doing something 1.25" cut but shorter would have flown like a 4 blade reg solid (great) but had Exodus size cut at 1.875" TOA Reg = 2" cutting surface. Pen Test 1 8" & 72 layers Pen Test 2 TOA XL = 2.375" Cutting Surface. Pen Test 1 7" & 63 layers Pen Test 2 TOA SB = 1" Cutting Surface. Pen test 1 9.5" & 65 layers Pen Test 2 TOA 3b = 1.6875" cutting surface. Pen test 1 8.5" & 59 layers Pen Test 2
For a head of that small of a profile I would have expected much better accuracy and definitely one of the worst out of the box sharpness wise. Amazing durability though.
Hi, do you use lighted nocks for hunting? If so, do you use them in the rain? Many people said that lighted nocks were unreliable, they said lighted nocks sometimes lighted up and sometimes didn't, and they also said lighted nocks introduced shooting errors. Do you think they work reliably?
Yes. I only use lighted nocks-in practice and hunting. Rain and temps do not affect them. Different brands have different reliability. But they are usually effective.
Love the durability of their heads but sharpness is unacceptable from a new out of the box broadhead in my opinion. You should not have to sharpen a broadhead before use. 😒
Yeah, I hear ya. My honest take on it is that these are plenty sharp to hunt with very successfully. But for those who want extra sharpness, a 3 blade one piece head is the easiest there is to sharpen.
You should sharpen every broadhead out of the package, regardless of price. If you shoot them into a target, sharpen them. The difference is crazy once you know what a truly sharp broadhead is. I don’t think there are any, maybe iron will, that are hunting ready sharp for me out of the box.
Could've been sharper out of the pack. It's not going to be as forgiving as a vented 3 blade either. I haven't liked the flight characteristics of any solid non vented 3 blade I've shot.
You should sharpen every broadhead out of the package, regardless of price. If you shoot them into a target, sharpen them. The difference is crazy once you know what a truly sharp broadhead is. I don’t think there are any, maybe iron will, that are hunting ready sharp for me out of the box.
@@Tyler_Lyons there are a lot of none, designer aka expensive heads that are super sharp right out of the package. Exodus, Stingers Thunderheads etc Of course you need to re-sharpen a broadhead if you shoot it in to a target if you are going to hunt with it. If I shoot a broadhead into a target it becomes a practice head. Everyone on AT says you need to sharpen IW's when you get them in the mail.
Well, pretty average for accuracy; and at least it’s extremely easy to sharpen. But yes, those were the weaker areas of the testing. Excellent on durability; a bit above average on penetration.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and keep your videos coming please.
Thank you Charley. I really appreciate the encouragement.
Awesome content! Love them Tooth of the Arrow
Nice
Love tooth of the arrow, for my trad setup I've been thinking of checking out ozcuts 2 blade, and was very surprised you haven't made a video on those yet! I research every head I consider through your testing! Lol
I just finished testing the new Ozcut Hurricane and the new Ozcut elite three. I have the elite twos as well, but they will not make it into this year‘s testing. I just have so many more Broadhead testing? I could possibly fit in.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures fair enough, I appreciate your response buddy! And all your testing videos. You do a great job truly testing each head in every way imaginable.
Didn't expect the concrete to break apart like that, that's one tough broadhead ... 😎🏹 🐗🦌PS, Glad you're doing well and back to doing videos ... 😎👍
I like how for some in places with rocky landscape or very hard super packed clay ground, a head like this is going to serve people well.
Well, I won’t be able to do vids for another few months. But I have vids complete and scheduled to post thru September
Hello, Enjoy your videos. As a 73 year old disabled veteran glad to see you shooting a crossbow. I shoot a crossbow because of disability, Excalibur, in your testing will the Tooth of the arrow be a good choice. Like fixed over mech. God bless you and yours Lloyd Vernon
Thanks brother.
I expected it to excel in the zero stop test, but that exceeded my expectations!
Yep. It’s tough that’s for sure.
Sound is a little funky on this one.
Thanks for the test.
Sorry about that. Not sure what happened.
@LuskArcheryAdventures no problem just wanted to make you aware if you were, though sometime it's just my set up as well.
I really like that pyramid tip, penetration, and the holes it put in that sheet metal. This is a nice design. I'm sure it could be sharpened a little better at home.
Yep. Well said Frank.
Would like to see a comparison video of it sharpened up.
The only thing that would change is the sharpness. Sharpness has almost zero effect on penetration, believe it or not-at least in the mediums I test with. I’ve dulled heads with a steel file and had them penetrate almost as well as razor sharp heads of the same model.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures Hi John, really interesting observation. I see someone further in the comments related this head to the Ozcut 3 blade. I'm interested in seeing your review of the more recent stainless steel version of the Ozcut Hurricane - I just picked some of these up and they appear to be different in construction than the earlier version. I've found sharpening both versions to be doable but challenging - may not matter much if indeed it doesn't affect penetration significantly. Thanks for all you do for this community - it is important work.
I was surprised with the accuracy and sharpness
Yeah, the sharpness can be easily fixed, with it being so easy to sharpen on any flat surface.
Thanks for the video. I have some and curious am to the diamond plates. Do you need to buy the guide to assist in sharpening?
It makes it easy to hold the head, but not necessary.
Thank you.
Another great test. Any chance of you testing the Simmons safari?
I hope so!!! I’d like to buy some if I could see a review.
I love testing Simmons. With my recent back surgery I doubt I can add it into 2024. I already have 40 more lined up to test and another 20 already done and scheduled to drop
@@LuskArcheryAdventures it was just an idea. If you get around to it eventually that’s great if not that you anyways for all the other fantastic information you give out
John Lusk, what are the top 5 3 blade heads you have tested. Like everyone else, im on a budget. Love the videos I've been watching for years. Keep them coming
Man, it’s hard to say. They’re are at least 50-maybe 100 that I’ve tested. There are the one piece 3 blades then the replaceable blade models. So many different cutting diameters, blade thicknesses, lengths, materials, etc.
I just tested the new Kayuga that is probably the best penetrating. The Exodus is probably the best all round. The Bishop Holy Trinity is probably the toughest, the Cutthroat is amazing, as are the Valkyries. Just too many to pick the best.
Go with exodus. You won’t be disappointed. Or consider a two blade Magnus like the stinger or black hornet with bleeders - while not a 3 blade, Magnus warranty and customer service is unbeatable. They do make a 3-blade but I prefer their 2 blade designs.
Question, how does the four blade 1” do on whitetail Deer
Does well. I shot a doe with one, double lung, she went 40 yards and crashed. Similar size hole to a Exodus 3 blade.
I’ve taken a good number of deer and hogs and even elk with them. They’ve always done well.
I shoot the 4 blade and love them. Fly exactly like my field tips.
Yeah, those four blade 1 inch heads fly incredibly well. One of the best flying heads on the market.
If you had to choose, which head would get the nod? The 3 blade or 4 blade? I currently shoot Magnus 2 blade black hornet 125gr. I have taken 1 whitetail with them and the penetration was incredible. The wound channel and blood trail left something to be desired.
I prefer the 4 blade. And I like the XL for deer sized animals. I prefer the 1” for longer shots or elk sized game.
What do you think of the new Annhilator hypo 2 being released here soon?
I got to look at it at the ATA. I’m eager to test it when it comes out.
awesome
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I’ve tried their solids and vented. I prefer their vented series. Just way easier to tune and better grouping for me. The solids might be better for someone else, but when you’re playing the 25 yd and in game with white tails. The sound the vented makes doesn’t matter.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Did you try sharping it after the test? If so how well did it sharpen back up ?
I did not. But I know this steel well enough to know it will sharpen very easily; especially with the 3 blade design.
Top 3 3-blade one piece broadheads?
They’re good, but there are some really nice ones-like the SS3, Ozcut Hurricane and Ozcut Elite 3. All those tests are coming up in the weeks ahead.
@LuskArcheryAdventures i got the ozcuts based on your last review of them, looks like they went all stainless? Will be tuning in!
Not bad, but I like the Ozcut 3B design better. Thicker blades and blades have more support at the ferrule. The weak connection where the blades meet the ferrule is a major design flaw on the TOTA 4 blades and this one doesn't look better.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I’ve never seen a weak connection where the blades meet the ferrule, personally.
I snapped blades clean off the ferrule on a standard 4 blade and XL, and talked to others that have had it happen as well. I don't think it would happen in a hunting situation but still a weak point.
Not a fan of solids. I get more shots out of replaceable blade broadheads because damage is easier to sharpen out and you can swap blades if too far gone. To each their own though. This does look like a tough head. Love your testing, btw.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
They put out an impressive head no doubt about it but that sevr 1.75 is just my preference.
I love that head as well.
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Thanks for watching.
Love your videos , only thing I would like to see is you go back to testing accuracy with a bow not a crossbow. I understand trying to take human error out of it , but crossbows just shoot fixed heads more accurately in my experiences.
Thanks for the feedback. Honestly, I have found just the opposite to be true. The crossbow is much more difficult to get fixed blade heads to fly well out of. So due to the consistency and repeatability, I really like using it for the accuracy testing. And overall, the heads that flew well out of my vertical Bell also fly well out of the crossbow. So the results are consistent.
I'm a huge fan of 3 blades but I don't understand the intent of this design outside of ease of sharpening... however the F4 sharpener fixes that. If you really need penetration go with their 2 blade single bevel. Otherwise I prefer the 4 blade regular solid (or vented) as this head is going to fly worse than it for most, cut less for a marginal improvement on bone. Ashby actually says that a 4 blade is better on bone. 2 planes of splitting vs 3.
I really wish they kept the same total length of the 4 blade XL making the head have less surface area on the blades. Then added some thickness into the blades to get the weight right. The weakness of the XL version is the blades can snap off. This design has more surface area than needed and doesn't fix that issue. Doing something 1.25" cut but shorter would have flown like a 4 blade reg solid (great) but had Exodus size cut at 1.875"
TOA Reg = 2" cutting surface. Pen Test 1 8" & 72 layers Pen Test 2
TOA XL = 2.375" Cutting Surface. Pen Test 1 7" & 63 layers Pen Test 2
TOA SB = 1" Cutting Surface. Pen test 1 9.5" & 65 layers Pen Test 2
TOA 3b = 1.6875" cutting surface. Pen test 1 8.5" & 59 layers Pen Test 2
Thanks for sharing all that. Good thoughts.
For a head of that small of a profile I would have expected much better accuracy and definitely one of the worst out of the box sharpness wise. Amazing durability though.
Yeah, I hear ya.
I feel the missed the mark on this one. I am sure it is fine, but it seems it underperforms on killing prowess.
Yeah, it is what it is. Many people wanted a 3 blade that they made a solid one.
Hi, do you use lighted nocks for hunting? If so, do you use them in the rain?
Many people said that lighted nocks were unreliable, they said lighted nocks sometimes lighted up and sometimes didn't, and they also said lighted nocks introduced shooting errors. Do you think they work reliably?
Yes. I only use lighted nocks-in practice and hunting. Rain and temps do not affect them. Different brands have different reliability. But they are usually effective.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures
Thank you very much ! 🙏🙏🙏
Appears to be lacking on sharpness right out of the package? Hoping people would notice that and touch up the blade. Overall, IT IS A WINNER! 👍👍👍👍
Yep. Super easy to sharpen up a 3 blade single piece head.
Love the durability of their heads but sharpness is unacceptable from a new out of the box broadhead in my opinion. You should not have to sharpen a broadhead before use. 😒
Yeah, I hear ya. My honest take on it is that these are plenty sharp to hunt with very successfully. But for those who want extra sharpness, a 3 blade one piece head is the easiest there is to sharpen.
You should sharpen every broadhead out of the package, regardless of price. If you shoot them into a target, sharpen them. The difference is crazy once you know what a truly sharp broadhead is. I don’t think there are any, maybe iron will, that are hunting ready sharp for me out of the box.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures that is true all you need is a flat stone
DID'T LOOK LIKE 8 1/2 INCHES
Yeah, the angle of my phone lens makes it look "off" at times. But I measure each one very carefully.
Could've been sharper out of the pack. It's not going to be as forgiving as a vented 3 blade either. I haven't liked the flight characteristics of any solid non vented 3 blade I've shot.
Thanks for sharing that experience.
Sharpness wasn't on point but that could be improved before you take it hunting
Yep
Flight not that great and pretty dull. But it’s tough
Yeah, flight was pretty good, comparatively. Sharpness can be improved, and is super easy with this head.
Not sharp or accurate even in video
The accuracy was fairly good, as the score indicates. The sharpness is something that is a weakness, but is fairly easy to fix.
Other heads that were this dull got a worse score and yes it is a easy fix but for that price it should not have to be fixed
You should sharpen every broadhead out of the package, regardless of price. If you shoot them into a target, sharpen them. The difference is crazy once you know what a truly sharp broadhead is. I don’t think there are any, maybe iron will, that are hunting ready sharp for me out of the box.
@@Tyler_Lyons there are a lot of none, designer aka expensive heads that are super sharp right out of the package. Exodus, Stingers Thunderheads etc Of course you need to re-sharpen a broadhead if you shoot it in to a target if you are going to hunt with it. If I shoot a broadhead into a target it becomes a practice head. Everyone on AT says you need to sharpen IW's when you get them in the mail.
Not sharp or accurate
Well, pretty average for accuracy; and at least it’s extremely easy to sharpen. But yes, those were the weaker areas of the testing. Excellent on durability; a bit above average on penetration.
I do not like the way these fly….
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Thanks