ANNIHILATOR Broadhead Battle: Original vs XL
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- Опубликовано: 7 мар 2021
- Here is my sharpness scoring scale, using the Edge on Up Sharpness Testing Machine:
First of all, what are some common scores for other edges? Here are some examples:
A butter knife takes 2000 grams of pressure to break the wire.
A new high end cutlery edge takes approx 375 grams of pressure to break the wire.
A utility razor blade takes approx 200 grams to break the wire.
Based on the many broadheads I have tested, here is my scoring scale:
Out of the Box Sharpness:
0-200 gr: 10
201-300 gr 9
301-400 gr: 8
401-500 gr: 7
501-600 gr: 6
601-700 gr: 5
701-800 gr: 4
801-900 gr: 3
901-1000 gr: 2
1001-1100 gr: 1
1101+ gr: 0
Edge Retention: Sharpness difference after Penetration Test 1:
10 minus 1 point for every 50 grams of sharpness difference. For example, if the initial sharpness was 400 gr of pressure and the sharpness after Penetration Test 1 was 450, the head would receive a 9 for Edge Retention Score.
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I've previously tested the Annihilator Original...please check out that video if you've not seen it yet. But my biggest critique of it was its relatively small cutting diameter. Granted, it's design lends it to displacing more tissue than most other fixed blade heads. But the XL has now boosted its value quite a bit by allowing it to cut about 17 % more tissue. That intrigues me.
But does it fly well? Does it penetrate well? Is it durable enough? These are the questions we must answer.
In addition to this, I have improved some of my testing procedures...yet again :) I am now using a Sharpness Tester by Edge on Up, to test the factory sharpness as well as the sharpness AFTER Penetration Test 1. This is a bit more objective and accurate than my previous push paper test.
I'm also testing flight by shooting a group of one field point and two broadheads at 40 yds, to see how well they fly similarly.
And I've created a new LUSK GRADE for each head, based on how it performs in my testing. It will receive anywhere between 0 and 10 "Golden Arrows."
I've also demonstrated how the new "344" Broadhead Sharpener by Stay Sharp Guide works by changing the bevel angle of a solid 3 blade head from 60 degrees to 44, thus making it much sharper.
I have also picked up a new sponsor with my top recommendation for Broadhead Sharpening. staysharpguide.com The support I get for that has helped me improve my channel.
Also check out detailed vids on how to use the Stay Sharp Guide here on RUclips at: Stay Sharp: / @staysharp6771
Discount Codes for Broadheads:
SEVR: LUSKFIVE
Tooth of the Arrow: LUSK19
Afflictor: LUSK10 
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This was phenomenal and I am very glad to see the new criteria! Keep it up!
Thank you Horatio. Much appreciated brother.
Very well done!!! I think the new testing regiment is great, keep em coming!!!
Thanks Tim!
These are some of the most well thought out, detailed broadhead reviews! Keep ‘em coming!
Thank you Kevin.
Love the new stuff!! Absolutely fantastic
Thank you brother.
I really like your new sharpness test. Far more consistent! Love the accuracy test update too...
Someone gave me some original Annihilator broadheads. I have been reluctant to use them for fear of small wounds.
I have to say they do fly amazing.
Keep up the great work
Thank you. I've had the same concern.
Really enjoyed the new testing procedures for better comparative results. Both these broad heads seem to be extremely tough. The XL’s are now on my future purchase list.
Mahalo
Thanks Clay.
I really like the new idea of the rating system. Will help even more with us viewers choosing broadheads! Thanks!
Glad to hear that. Thank you!
I like your changes to the testing!
Thank you Matthew.
Glad to see the new sharpness test great idea.
Thank you Noah.
Why do you only have 22k subs. These vids are addicting!
Thank you Jason. I've only been doing this in a focused way for the last few years. Please help spread the channel around :)
16:30 wow what a difference!! I need to learn more about this! That was incredible John! I love these heads. I still use them and have since they hit the market. Awesome broadheads and of you can get them that much more sharper!!! Wow .. I'm buying that kit!
Thanks Mikey!
I bought annihilators last year because of your review. Havent let me down yet.
Good to hear that. Thank you for sharing that.
Great video John. The XL’s have been on my radar. I’m happy to see how well they performed.
Thanks Alex.
Great video as always! I have the original version and for anyone interested in sharpening these, I found that once finished on my finest diamond stone, they were sharper than they came from the factory. Being somewhat crazy about my personal view of what hunt sharp should be, I pulled mine backwards down a super fine compound loaded strop. My use of the word backwards, I gently held one blade and held two blades on the strop pulling the threaded end down the strop with no downward pressure, just letting the broadhead basically just touch the strop. The tip of the broadhead is the trailing end of this method. This makes these heads SCARY SHARP! I hope this helps anyone interested. John, I absolutely love your videos and always find them helpful and extremely informative.
Thanks Tim!
Best broadhead rating system on RUclips right there. Well done.
Thank you Alex.
that sharpness tester is awesome! thanks for adding that to your testing!
I've really liked it. Thank you!
Those GOAT arrows are something else John. And the Annihilator is a super tough broadhead.
Keep those tests coming
Donut Dan
Thanks Dan.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures A POST-SHARPENING BALLISTIC GEL TEST WOULD BE AWESOME!!!!
Fantastic reviewing process! Really informative!
Thank you
Great video and test John!
Thank you!
Besides my connection of being a fellow short statured archer shooting a Bowtech Realm SR6 with a 27.5" draw, I can't tell you how much I appreciate your channel. Your videos are so informative and well formatted. Please keep em coming. Thank you for all your hard work
Thank you brother.
I never realized my 27 inch draw was short till now ;( lol I'm in the club too!!
Legit testing. Legit head. Thanks for the video John!
Thank you!
Definitely a head i want to try. I think the Exodus will be my go-to this fall but the Annihilator looks great as well.
Thanks. I really like the Exodus as well.
Like the new testing methods.
Thank you!
Nice new tool for testing sharpness
Thank you!
The tests are all nice upgrades.
Thanks brother.
Whoa! Fancy seeing you here mate!
Just picked up a set of the X l's can't wait to see how they performed. Great video thank you
Very good. I'd love to hear how they perform for you.
How do you like them
@@kevinmartin2096 I haven't taken an animal with them yet but they shoot consistently for me. I usually practice at 50 yards and under.
Great test!
Thank you!
I really like your new sharpness indicator and I like the stay sharp sharpener I was surprised by how well it worked. I would like to see the broadhead shot through something after sharpened on it to see if it retains its edge integrity as well as the factory edge. Great video!!
Thanks Billy Lee. Yeah, I should have shown that. Since the 344 sharpener still keeps the bevel at 44 degrees, it's still very durable. And the broadheads weighed the same before and after sharpening--very little is removed.
I just got some of the 125 xl at the GAOS in Harrisburg PA this week. Can't wait to try them out
Nice.
That was Awesome! I'm gonna check out the stay sharp guide ...👍🏻 😎🏹🦌
Yeah, they make all kinds of excellent sharpeners--and for pretty cheap.
Love the content !
Thank you George.
I took 11 animals with the original 100gr head last year. Solid head and has been great for my set up. Absolutely love how easy it is to sharpen too. I'll have to check out the sharpener. Thank you
Glad to hear that. Thank you for sharing
@@LuskArcheryAdventures picked up that sharpener as well. Going to have to test it out on turkey coming up. Thank you
time for a hooter shooter. I really like the changes. super nice. thanks for the test...
YES! I wish I could afford one--have you seen their price? And then I would have to have it set up somewhere that I could shoot regularly--all major handicaps.
Also, just for reference, 4140 is commonly used in gun barrels, so its pretty darn tough!
Yeah, it's a great tool steel.
Im excited to see results of your new cut test once you get some data piled up. An now I have to go check out stay sharp site. I can't wait to put some annihilators through some elk this yr.
Yes indeed. Thank you!
Nice video!
Would love to see an angled penetration test. Something fairly steep, say, 30 or 35dg, that would help weed out some of the BH that are not good with angled shots.
Really like your changes to the sharpness test, however, we need some type of scale to compare to, such as a razor blade on one end of the scale and, IDK, a butter knife on the other end.
I used to test angle shots, but they pretty much all did the same on them. On the score sheet I provide my own score of 1-10 for sharpness and edge retention to translate the grams of pressure to a practical broadhead number.
In my opinion the previous testing methods were good. However, I think the changes made are a big improvement. The sharpness test looks more accurate and more repeatable. I think the previous accuracy test was very good at providing proof of long range capabilities of the briadheads. The average hunter is probably best served by the new method with the 40 yard range. Many archers can regularly hit targets at 70 yards but having the experience necessary to determine if you should shoot at an animal that far away is best left to the small percentage of hunters capable of not only making the shot but knowing when its appropriate for the given situation. The new broadhead battle convinced me of its ability to not only penetrate but survive penetration in hard mass. I've watched most of your videos and this one was one of my favorites. Great video
Thank you Frank. I really appreciate it.
This is the most scientific and thorough Brodhead review I've ever seen. Thanks for making the time.
Thank you Scott. Much appreciated brother
I wish I could get these for my crossbow in the uk. Can only seem to find cheap knockoff broadheads on fleabay and Amazon. Love the content and tests you did. New subscriber!
Thanks John!
Thanks for doing all these videos. I don’t know why the Ranch Fairy gives you so much crap for doing these. I think they’re really informative.
Yeah, whatever. I like Troy & the things he does. I have nothing bad to say about him...not my style.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures yes, I like him too. Have learned much and been entertained. I just don’t like the lack of blood trails with my two blade single bevel broadheads.
I just ordered some TOTA XLs.
I love this video, I’m so damn hyped, I got two wyndscent systems doe and vanilla scent. Axe Ax440 and the Ax405 ultra fast crossbows, shooting Annihilator 125gr xl broad heads, Rhino 180 tent blind, two comfortable seats. Just me my dad and peace. LETS GO! ❤
Good luck!
Very impressive
Thanks for watching
What I enjoy is that you are not impartial to different heads. Very honest testing. Also, I'm happy that you are always changing your testing because you are always trying to improve the tests! Question, I would like to know more about your setup??? In other words, are you using a 3 vein or 4? What offset are you using. The reason being is so others can reproduce your testing. As you know that's a scientific method to be repeatable!!!!
Thank you for everything!!!!!
Thanks Michael. I use 3 Blazers, applied Helically. I've found those to steer as well as 4 applied straight, but 3 helps my FOC a bit.
I like the new sharpness test. Much more repeatable
Yes. thank you!
glad you got the sharpness machine because it helps to have a number, but for people that dont know, there is a chart. for example a razor blade is usually under 100. maybe next video you can mention what the broadheads compare to. like a butterknife is say over 8-900+. good vid though just the same.
Yeah, I have that chart, but for broadheads they're all in the same general area. I provide my own score of 1-10 for sharpness and edge retention to translate the grams of pressure to a practical broadhead number.
Best scientific testing, this is great. The cost of heads nowadays is very expensive and as a consumer this really helps. I don’t mind spending the money, especially after spending over 1k for just the bow. We should spend appropriately on the broad head as well since it is one of the most important parts of the killing process and as a hunter we owe it to the prey to do it effectively and efficiently. Cost should nit be the inhibiting factor if the broad head is built properly.
Edit: use a chisel to remove your broad head from the cement, might save it.
Thank you! I completely agree! And yes, I should have used a chisel--I'm not sure why I didn't think of that at the time :)
This man needs his own TV series or magazine or something. Serious scientific method when comparing broadheads...This is consumer education at its finest
Well thank you Fred. I really appreciate it!
Ordered that 344. Thanks
Good deal. Let me know what you think about it.
I would love to see you retest some of your best budget broadheads. Deepower ect...
Yeah, I'll do that at some point. Thank you!
Killed my first archery buck late in the season with a 150 XL. Quartering away, liver shot. He went about 80 yards and was down before I could even get down from my saddle. Upon removal of the intervals, you could see a defined wound channel through the liver, and a whole soup of blood in the torso. Can’t speak to the blood trail, because I could see where he fell, so I didn’t have to track him, but there was a lot where he went down.
Good to hear that. Thank you for sharing!
Thanks so much....I just picked up a dozen of the 125 XL’s last week and I was wondering if the regular 125 would be a stronger head.
Great! Glad it was helpful.
I just ordered the new ones. I have the old ones too! Gonna get the bevel 344 kits too!
Good deal!
You hardly ever see any real life hunting pics of the holes these broadheads make. I am still not sold on them.
I’ve seen Mixed reviews. Some holes have looked great, but others pretty small.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures Between the squatty heads which one do you like? Annihilator, TOTA, Slick Trick SST are the ones that come to mind.
Thank you
Thanks for watching
I like the new upgrades to testing, but now I’m wondering how many times it would’ve cut paper haha. Have to watch some more test to gauge what is a good sharpness number on the new equipment
Haha. That's funny. Yeah, it will become clear in the future. I give the number grade 1-10 to give you a feel of how sharp it is compared to other heads, both in the initial sharpness test and the retention test.
Hey John great video, like what you do with these tests. When I'm looking to try a new broadhead, i watch your videos!.. I have been using mechanical broadheads heads since i started archery. Looking to move to fixed heads for the upcoming season. Torn between 2 heads, these annihlators and the exodus broadheads. If you had to pick one, which one would you pick?
Thanks Steve. They're both great. But if I had to pick just one, I'd go with the Exodus...larger hole and replaceable blades.
This is interesting. I expected the XL to not perform as well as the regular just due to the lower density. I shied away from them for that reason but now I'll definitely give them a go
Very good.
I got the 344 sharpener for my 125gr XL’s and it makes all the difference. Razor sharp now.
So glad to hear that! It takes a lot of strokes, but it really makes a difference.
Any noticeable difference in sound compared to a field tip? I love my Black Hornets, but their audible hiss in flight has me always on the lookout for the next best things...
I didn't notice anything really different...but the area I shoot is really loud and I use helical Blazers so they're loud anyway. Since these are solid, I'd say they're quieter than any vented heads.
This review is as solid as the broad head tested.
Thank you Hunter.
Excellent sir! The new format looks good....the 150 XL's are in the quiver already...VPA S.G.T.'S 150 for the tree rats...😆
Thank you brother!
I am new to archery, I have a ventum 33, 70lb 30" dl, I have 5mm easton axis arrows with 75g inserts. In your honest opinion what would the best broudhead for me be? Accuracy ,penitraion for 50 yards and in, also 100g or 125g?
Thanks Rusty. I think it's a good one for sure...but there are a lot of really good heads nowadays. Honestly, I prefer the Exodus, cause it opens up a much wider hole.
I like the sharpness test. I'd like to see how many psi it takes for different broadheads to penetrate heavy leather or something similar .
Yeah, I've seen that. Those machines are really pricey and the basic bathroom scales are pretty rough. But honestly, what happens when you push it thru slowly has almost zero to do with what happens when it flies at 280 fps or more. People misunderstand that. Same is true with a 3:1 ratio design--fine for designing optimum angle for a wheel chair ramp, but not very relevant for a high speed projectile.
I like the concept behind the new sharpness test. However I really don't know how "sharp" it is considering there really is nothing to compare it to; where as I can see how well a Broadhead can cut through paper. How much pressure does it take for it to be considered sharp or dull? Some clarification/explanation would be appreciated
Thank you G Money. I did add an explanation in the Description of this video, and in the next one I'm posting as well. After that, I will verbally explain it more in the context of the vid. Please read thru that and let me know if you have any questions.
I shot my buck with one last year. Busted the ribs and passed right through. Picked it up and blade was mint. I went home to slide it on the 8000 grit wet stone for a few times each side. Didn't need to do it but it's a habit to touch up a blade.
That's great to hear. Thank you for sharing that.
Hey I wonder if you could repeat the penetration test after using the Stay Sharp Guide and see if there is a measurable increase in penetration?
Well, the sharpness of a head doesn't have as much to do with penetration as people think. I've taken a couple 2 blade heads and dulled one with a steel file--super dull, and the other was razor sharp. The penetration difference was .5" However, I'm sure the sharp one would cut that tissue it passes over much more effectively than the dull one. And that improves bloodletting.
The "scoop" design was taken directly from defender handgun ammo. The design definitely works.
Interesting. Everyone learns from others, somewhere along the road.
Great video, I’ve never bow hunted before, I just got a crossbow. Do You think they would work in a crossbow? Thanks
Yeah, for sure.
I may have to try the XL.
They're worth a look.
Is there anyway you can test them in a crossbow and see if the flight is still as good? Due to arthritis, I had to move to a crossbow last year and I'm still looking for a good head for it. Thanks
I wish I could do that, but I don't have a crossbow. Sorry.
Have you taken any game with these or have you just tested them i have the originals but did not get to use them this year the XL are looking pretty tempting.
I have not taken any game with either of these models yet. I took the Original in my quiver a few times, but sometimes just feared it was too small and opted for a larger cutting head.
I also have a SS 344 and use it on most of my heads. I just ordered the Annihilators and was wondering, did you bother to sharpen the back of the blades? How would you suggest it or isn't it necessary?
Not, that's not necessary at all; that's only of minor importance in pulling the head out of a target or it cutting as it backs out of an animal if it doesn't get a pass thru.
i have used the original 100g annihilators for a few years. sharpened many times. have had pass throughs several times directly into rocks. have only had one break the tip. other than that, all ive had to do is touch up the blades on some sharpening stones to 6000grit and boom! they are ready to use again. i have absolutely no idea why more people arnt using these! i shot a turkey (and if anyone knows turkeys will often run around or fly off when shot by a mechanical or two blade) and that bird didnt take one single step! dropped in its tracks! only broadhead ill ever use! this year im going to the XL!
Good to hear. Thank you
The guy who designed it was a proshooter for RamCat,that broadhead is just a large version of the tip of the RamCat.
Yep.
I bought some of these last year but never used them in the field. I was scared it wouldn't be a decent size wound
Man, I hear ya. I was the same.
Full pass through on my elk at 60yards and looks brand new
@@matthewsplawn729 what about the wound size and blood trail?
@@brockpeck7073 only went about 40yards really good blood trail and surprisingly big wound channel first year archery hunting and kill and seemed similar to a bullet.
I shot two white tails with them and they bled like crazy. I was worried about the same thing though
Do you find that sharpening the heads from a 60 degree bevel to a 44 degree bevel changes the weight appreciably?
Nope. On my grain scale, there was zero weight difference. It removes surprisingly little material.
What is your FPS and poundage your using? Great info here. Thanks
I typically share it, but maybe I left it off of this vid. I shoot 72# at 27" draw and 460 gr arrow.
With the sharpener promoted do the edges stay as sharp at the new angle or does it dull faster. Also does it weaken the edge?
Great question. With it still be a 44 degree bevel, it's going to be very durable; especially with the steel that these heads use. And the cool thing is if you don't like it or are out in the field, you can still just sharpen them back to 60 degrees on any flat surface.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures awesome thanks
Hope these do well for me. About to order some 125gr XL's this weekend for my 400fps crossbow. 🤞🏼 I hope they are accurate and fly true.
Nice. Good luck.
Will this sharpening kit work well on the Tooth of the Arrow four blade broadheads?
No, that kit is designed for 60 degree bevel heads--which means they have to be 3 blade.
Can you do a test on the old school Zwicky, bear, magnus, woodsman etc.
I'm happy to test any heads that people will donate :) I reach out to manufacturers, and about 1/3 of them send me heads to test. Most of them don't even respond to me. I think it's a mistake on their marketing strategy, cause they're reaching thousands of people for only their cost of pack of heads. But I do have a few Simmons coming up.
In my opinion you should dip the heads in olive oil or any oil before you shoot them through the jell to simulate blood and get correct penatration results
Yeah, I've tried different things like that--baby powder, oil, etc. There are two problems: One, most of it comes off in the rubber mat and the MDF, and Two, the rest stays in my gel and hinders the consistency/clarity when I re-melt it. As long as I am consistent with each head, whether I use a lubricant or not, it should still be a fair comparison between the heads.
Is there a spreadsheet anywhere on all the results? I just watched the G5 deadmeat video and this one. Am I mistaken or is the dead meat sharper than the annihalator after you sharpened it?
Yes, there is. On the last video of 2021, which is a Scoring Summary of 2021, there is a link to a spreadsheet of all the scores. And to your other question, yes, the Deadmeat with its thinner blades is "sharper" than the Annihilator even at the 44 degree bevel. The edge integrity will be MUCH better with the Ann, but the felt sharpness not as good.
Used them last year and was not impressed at all lost 3 does to them all complete pass threws to and literally right in the kill zone they took off and no blood what so ever I feel that they where just to small of a hole now the doe I did get was with the Zeus broadhead and man ol man was like a blood fest lol anyhow great vid John I always look forward to your vids
Thanks for sharing that Ace.
What grain broadheads are you testing? With that said what grain do you recommend for whitetail?
125 gr. Anything 100 gr or more is fine for whitetail.
I’ve used the Stay Sharp for my 125XL’s and I don’t feel like they are as sharp as I would like to see them. Any recommendations to get them shaving sharp? I don’t have a Edge On Up sharpness tester, so I’m just going off of how well they shave the hair on my arm. With the short blade it is difficult to do, so it’s possible that they are sharper than I think they are. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated!
Did you use the 344? The key is that you have to get a burr on the opposite side of each edge before you move up to the next grit. It can take a few hundred strokes on each side.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures yes, I used the 344, but I didn’t do as many strokes as you’re recommending, as I was concerned that it might remove too much material, and affect the weight of the broadhead. Maybe I’ll try again with an increased number of strokes. Thanks for the response, and keep doing what you’re doing!
Had a bad experience last year with this head, had a bit of wind and hit the shoulder of a doe and never recovered her and lost blood after 100 yards
Sorry to hear that. Shoulder will do that most of the time. Thanks for sharing your experience.
How long does it take to re profile the broadheads? How many strokes did you do on each sheet for each side?
It takes a lot of strokes...like a couple hundred on each grit on each blade. I just do it when watching TV or something.
Have concerns about this head deflecting. Broadside, good head, lost bull last year, limited blood trail, only minor quartering away. Shot placement exactly behind crease.
Interesting, it would be cool if he did a quartering steel plate test.
@@justinjones2882 would like to see that. Wouldn't necessarily need to be metal plate, could even be some firm board. Would need to be multiple shots, how broadhead struck the surface would alter outcome. Especially the annilator.
I'm surprised it would deflect on a broadside shot. That's weird. But weird things happen in the field. I used to do angled shot tests on plywood, but it was VERY rare that heads did not penetrate it.
Just wish profile was longer to help with deflection issue. Only explanation we had was head deflected off a rib and never penetrated chest cavity.
Yeah, any shorter head will have that as an issue. I've had a Slick Trick skip right off a hogs back...but at that point, I stopped taking hard angled shots.
I'm really struggling to choose between the Annihilator XL and the 3 Blade Cutthroat. Do you have a recommendation?
Just replied to your question on another vid...both are great, but I personally prefer the cut size of the Cutthroat.
Is there a comprehensive list, excel. Etc where your broadhead list is located?
Yeah, I'm compiling one for 2021, and will post it soon. Each year I upgrade the testing procedure a bit, so it would only have the 2021 scores. But I also have the scores from 2020 too, for those tests. I'll probably share both in the vid and then also post them on my Facebook page.
Will you be doing a review of the Daysix Evo this year?
Probably not...
@@LuskArcheryAdventures i know youve said that you feel daysix are not worth it because they are s30v steel... but then you also say you love the solid legend which is also s30v steel, so the reasoning just confuses me, but i digress your channel you can review whatever you see fit
Do you have any codes for stay sharp? Will be buying through your link.
Thank you. I don't have any codes for them, cause they have such a super small profit margin as it is. Sorry. But they are an incredible sharpener, especially for the price.
Need to retest the 125 xl after you sharpen with stay sharp guide’s 344
Sharpness doesn't affect penetration all that much...unlike what most people think. I've used a file to dull blades completely and they still penetrate almost as well as razor sharp ones.
I noticed you are shooting into a sevr target… how does the target hold up to the broadheads? And how easy or difficult is it to pull your arrows out?
And can you re do the test with the sharpening of the different angle? Does it alter the edge retention?
I love those targets. I’ve put thousand of broadheads into them. About the same durability and remove ability as a Rhinehart. And no, using the Stay Sharp 344 works great. You still have a 44 degree angle on the blade, with 22 on each side. That’s much thicker than most broadheads already. Still very durable.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures awesome. Thank you for the info. How do the arrows pull out? I noticed with my sevr target, that when I use field points they are hard to pull out, when I use the sevr broadheads with the lock screw, they pull much easier…. But just curious how easy it is to pull the annihilator’s?
Do Bishop arrows ship overseas!?
Are they a local "store" brand!?
What are their tolerances like!?
Yes they do. Just check them out online: Bishop Archery. Straightness is sub .001" at 35 inches. Incredibly well made...and very high priced arrows.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures
Excellent. Thanks for getting back to me.
Getting the heads sharper is nice, but what does that do to the durability? If you are going to encourage sharper heads, you need to compare that to decrease in durability.
Yeah, I understand that. But the bevel is still 44 degrees--and only for a small width of the blade. With any kind of decent steel and thick blades like most one piece heads have, it makes almost no difference in durability.
@@LuskArcheryAdventures Didn't expect a complete blade failure, but with the thinner edge, it might be chipped, rolled, or noticeably dulled. If we went by the steel's reputation alone, there'd be no need to durability test in the first place.
Plz do the sevr with these new testing specs
Yeah, I will get to that at some point. Thank you
Just purchased a pack of the 150XL based upon this review and others. Product is well machined and spins true, but all three broadheads were dull straight out of the package. Not a chance for shaving hair. Wouldn’t pick up on fingernail. Had to use a sawing motion to cut through a rubber band. Weight of the broadhead and partial arrow shaft alone didn’t even mark the rubber band. Will see how these sharpen up, but very disappointing for a higher than box store priced product. Hopefully this is just me receiving product that slipped past quality control.
Well that's unfortunate. They are very easy to sharpen with that 60 degree bevel. But also, due to that bevel, they will only get "so sharp." If you use the Stay Sharp Guide 344, you can change the bevel to 44 degrees and get them much sharper.