Medieval Weapons vs The Modern Warrior (How Lethal Are Medieval Weapons ???)

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  • @KentuckyBallistics
    @KentuckyBallistics  8 месяцев назад +699

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    • @Melon___man23
      @Melon___man23 8 месяцев назад +4

      I’m sorry but First

    • @Dripi_weta
      @Dripi_weta 8 месяцев назад +10

      4:01 his neck callasped over a inch...

    • @enkercodm9506
      @enkercodm9506 8 месяцев назад +6

      Day 900 of begging scott to do a explosive 22blank 12 gauge shells vs body armor video

    • @dudevinman167
      @dudevinman167 8 месяцев назад +6

      Mace

    • @MooseOsauras
      @MooseOsauras 8 месяцев назад +3

      Can. You do 4 bore vs pykrete

  • @sherizaahd
    @sherizaahd 8 месяцев назад +6571

    Spicy Meatball On a Stick = Morning Star
    Spiky Scepter = Mace
    Spiky Ball on Chain = Flail
    Meat Tenderizer = War Hammer

    • @It-b-Blair
      @It-b-Blair 8 месяцев назад +310

      Good for the uniformed viewer, Scott obviously was having a chuckle since he saw the names when he bought them 😜😂😂

    • @seanmurphy7183
      @seanmurphy7183 8 месяцев назад +29

      Truth

    • @Vahlsten
      @Vahlsten 8 месяцев назад +306

      to be more precise Spiky Scepter = Flanged Mace and Meat Tenderizer = Horseman's Pick

    • @cheesesniper473
      @cheesesniper473 8 месяцев назад +59

      The meat tenderizer looked like a bec de corbin

    • @seanmurphy7183
      @seanmurphy7183 8 месяцев назад +21

      Scott next time Archangel Steel

  • @lydiahamilton6373
    @lydiahamilton6373 8 месяцев назад +4854

    Scott as a neurosurgeon - "push the brain haemorrhage back in and duck tape the head back on"👍

    • @deathmetalsl
      @deathmetalsl 8 месяцев назад +182

      Duct tape a thumb in there for safe measure.

    • @bradfordbroswtent.8450
      @bradfordbroswtent.8450 8 месяцев назад +73

      Just like anything else, the best medical advice anyone could ever give you .. ''Just put a thumb in it'' ...

    • @aarongreenfield9038
      @aarongreenfield9038 8 месяцев назад +37

      And fill all the holes with flex seal.

    • @robertohidalgo813
      @robertohidalgo813 8 месяцев назад +2

      😂

    • @chaseviking5096
      @chaseviking5096 8 месяцев назад +4

      Well he is the best neurosurgeon in the world after all

  • @Aimlessmanakin227
    @Aimlessmanakin227 8 месяцев назад +4080

    medieval weapons nut here, most of those (apart from the "tenderizer" and your smaller sword) look like they are only for decoration and made out of weaker metals and they are still that scary

    • @Jellybelly008
      @Jellybelly008 8 месяцев назад +476

      The mall ninjas are growing in power

    • @argonzeit
      @argonzeit 8 месяцев назад +417

      That and his edge alignment on some of those strikes weren't the greatest. It would be interesting to see someone who could actually keep edge alignment with a proper sword do to one of those zombie torsos.

    • @shawn6860
      @shawn6860 8 месяцев назад +129

      That warhammer looked okay and the mace was probably decent. in practical use flanges did bend. Hence why they so were easier to fix. That looked like an arming sword or smaller long sword.

    • @viscounttudon68
      @viscounttudon68 8 месяцев назад +182

      @@argonzeitTo be honest it wasn’t bad for a beginner. I’ve seen much worse in my HEMA group from people just starting.

    • @vidard9863
      @vidard9863 8 месяцев назад +152

      The problem however is that medieval weapons experts would have difficulty with the concept of *intentionally* hitting the armor.

  • @bibostripos2128
    @bibostripos2128 4 месяца назад +456

    Damn, that war hammer really did the job. Imagine 40k of them

  • @roadrage363
    @roadrage363 8 месяцев назад +2185

    Scott on a mini bike throwing a spear needs to be on a t-shirt immediately.

    • @shawn6860
      @shawn6860 8 месяцев назад +85

      That needs to be a Sport.

    • @randallracer
      @randallracer 8 месяцев назад +33

      That almost became a snuff film for liveleak.

    • @EdwardLoyd-s4x
      @EdwardLoyd-s4x 8 месяцев назад +18

      His face was awesome 😂

    • @EdBratherton
      @EdBratherton 8 месяцев назад +15

      Caption put a spear init

    • @elyasprimeislingr28
      @elyasprimeislingr28 8 месяцев назад +7

      I'd buy that

  • @Bænik
    @Bænik 8 месяцев назад +10764

    It finally happened… Scott ran out of guns! 😢

    • @darthbane5357
      @darthbane5357 8 месяцев назад +228

      This is more unique of a video

    • @S.M.A.C.
      @S.M.A.C. 8 месяцев назад +556

      He must have lost the lawsuit with his shoulder. Shame🤦‍♂️

    • @andrewvarcoe4741
      @andrewvarcoe4741 8 месяцев назад +170

      Nah, more like he ran out of expensive ammo and his shoulder convinced him to take a break.

    • @samuelgarrod8327
      @samuelgarrod8327 8 месяцев назад +73

      He blew them all up.

    • @mississippidrifter5960
      @mississippidrifter5960 8 месяцев назад +74

      He is just trying to find a bigger shoulder fired piece of artillery. He doesn't shoot guns anymore😂

  • @bryanalejandromolinasepulv4659
    @bryanalejandromolinasepulv4659 7 месяцев назад +1463

    After a blow to the head with a medieval mace, the helmet may be fine but your brain is mashed. 😂

    • @raptus9115
      @raptus9115 7 месяцев назад +169

      It would likely be concussion, that's why maces were used, great against people wearing armor, you may survive a full blow but disorientated to the point where the second hit will be successful.

    • @koreancowboy42
      @koreancowboy42 6 месяцев назад +55

      ​@raptus9115 anything that's meant for full blunt damage is gonna hurt alot

    • @raptus9115
      @raptus9115 6 месяцев назад +23

      @@koreancowboy42 100% though the flail's in the video are completely, don't use those.

    • @NikoThePro707
      @NikoThePro707 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@raptus9115🥸🤓

    • @christianweatherbroadcasting
      @christianweatherbroadcasting 6 месяцев назад +9

      Jesus is the only way. We have all sinned and deserve Hell. Sins that may seem small in our eyes are big in God's and are worthy of Hell, such as lying lusting and stealing. But if we repent and trust only in Jesus, he is faithful and will save us from Hell and give us eternal life in Heaven. Trust in Jesus!
      John 3:16
      Romans 6:23

  • @Kebelix47
    @Kebelix47 Месяц назад +6

    "Spiky meatball on a stick" is a genius impersonation of a D&D barbarian. Loved the video!

  • @whirlwindgaming6973
    @whirlwindgaming6973 8 месяцев назад +1443

    The fact that Scott can do that kind of damage with these mild steel replicas is a testament to how much of a big guy he is

    • @alltimenative
      @alltimenative 8 месяцев назад +68

      its honestly terrifying lol

    • @TheWinjin
      @TheWinjin 8 месяцев назад +161

      Yeah I was looking at these obviously Amazon Play Dough Metal things and thinking "Scott can slap someone with a limp fish and knock their zombie brains out" now I want him to get hold of someone with actual medieval weaponry, like true steel and all.
      EDIT: watching to the end, the war hammer and spear are obviously made way better and the sword seems rather competent

    • @howardmaryon
      @howardmaryon 8 месяцев назад +18

      The man is a Unit...

    • @aleskaucic2326
      @aleskaucic2326 8 месяцев назад +11

      And how deadly medieval arsenal was...

    • @seanwagner1903
      @seanwagner1903 8 месяцев назад +37

      Those are wall hangers and of mall ninja equivalent quality. Not even actual medieval weapons are of that low quality as what he's using

  • @benjaminfinlay829
    @benjaminfinlay829 8 месяцев назад +633

    Regarding the soft body armour.
    It might surprise you to know that in medieval times, they already used a similar concept to protect against swords.
    It's called a "Gambeson", and it's made of quilted cloth layered many times. It was designed to provide padding to buffer blows to chainmail or plate, but it also provides quite ample protection from slashing blades on its own (though its protection is sacrificial, as each slash would put gashes in it).

    • @hambyla
      @hambyla 8 месяцев назад +54

      Shadiversity approves

    • @alexmills1329
      @alexmills1329 8 месяцев назад +20

      Yeah, that’s neat and all but to clarify here, Kevlar is not made to protect against stabs and slashes. It’s horrible at protection for that type of attack. It’s made to catch things, not to be abrasion resistant. A thin piece of ar500 is designed to do that task, it’s in the name even!

    • @AdblockWillWin7853
      @AdblockWillWin7853 8 месяцев назад +11

      Usually, you would combine armor types, depending on the era (and, of course, if you were wealthy enough to afford it). Best protection would be chainmail < gambeson < plate. Forgive me if I got the order wrong. Not too dissimilar from wearing ballistic plate over Kevlar.

    • @ZeroXSEED
      @ZeroXSEED 8 месяцев назад +21

      @@alexmills1329 Well time to put on my nerd hat
      Kevlar can be made stab-proof, it just have to be constructed and layered difficulty. Most bullets are blunt body, and that's why most soft bulletproof vest aren't rated for ice pick test (aka, stab resistance)
      However there ARE kevlar vest made to be both knife resistant, and useful against common pistol (9mm/45acp etc)
      You found them often in service of prison guards, since rifles aren't a concern.

    • @alexsawicki
      @alexsawicki 8 месяцев назад +11

      "It was designed to provide padding to buffer blows to chainmail or plate"... While gambeson was used for that purpose, I'm not sure it was "designed" for that purpose. There's some evidence that cloth armor pre-dates the metal armors... And, gambesons were often worn without any other armor. Gambesons are quite effective as overall armor, and they are easier and cheaper to make then chainmail or plate. Also, because gambeson is naturally flexible, it works to "cover the gaps" in other armors that are not as flexible, because the gaps would often be around joints.

  • @bztv6531
    @bztv6531 8 месяцев назад +649

    "Do not fight the armor, fight the person inside."
    -Master Splinter

    • @DoIT4Me
      @DoIT4Me 8 месяцев назад +28

      I miss when he was depicted as a wise ninja master.

    • @Batts2002
      @Batts2002 8 месяцев назад +4

      Nostalgia to the 2002 TMNT

    • @DoIT4Me
      @DoIT4Me 8 месяцев назад +7

      @@Batts2002
      Honestly my favorite iteration is either the 2007 splinter or the 2012, regardless I enjoy when he depicted as a wise ninja master and not some sad old loner.

    • @ISOCATO
      @ISOCATO 7 месяцев назад +2

      FLAMETHROWER

    • @Mbxstudios
      @Mbxstudios Месяц назад

      I thought that was common sense

  • @Zero-vu3xw
    @Zero-vu3xw 6 месяцев назад +22

    7:19 had me on the floor 😂😂😂😂 “It just popped back in there 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @kaiying74
    @kaiying74 8 месяцев назад +944

    Scott throwing a spear at a Zombie Torso in slow-mo from the back of a mini-bike is peak internet. 🤣

    • @MartijnBeekhuis
      @MartijnBeekhuis 8 месяцев назад +20

      I want that framed on my wall.

    • @billant2
      @billant2 8 месяцев назад +11

      Man, I was just hoping he doesn't skewer himself running into the throwing end of that rod on his bike. heh

    • @Eco19
      @Eco19 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@billant2saaaame

    • @koe-elain4203
      @koe-elain4203 8 месяцев назад +6

      Drive-by-speared

    • @4bedStudios
      @4bedStudios 8 месяцев назад +1

      No, it's peak Kentucky. Because as a Kentuckian I can account for this message.

  • @TheMegaOnyx
    @TheMegaOnyx 8 месяцев назад +1179

    All of his knowledge went to guns, and none to melee weapons...
    I practicle died when he pulled out the poolnoodle and called it a claymore...

    • @viscounttudon68
      @viscounttudon68 8 месяцев назад +192

      Same. All of these weapons were cringe inducingly flimsy

    • @Kraakesolv
      @Kraakesolv 8 месяцев назад +159

      ​@@viscounttudon68For sure. Fantasy weapons, really, except the warhammer. That was decent enough. Rest was junk and quite disappointing, Inwould have liked to see some proper weapons.

    • @kaseymalec6194
      @kaseymalec6194 8 месяцев назад +130

      I collect swords, when he called that THING a claymore, I genuinely almost had a stroke

    • @bringemyoungpbuh4123
      @bringemyoungpbuh4123 8 месяцев назад +22

      Did he put the right side "forward to enemy"?

    • @Pointlesschan
      @Pointlesschan 8 месяцев назад +39

      his first hit with the “claymore “ was essentially with the flat not the edge

  • @phyose4793
    @phyose4793 8 месяцев назад +665

    Fun fact about medieval weapons and armor:
    Warriors and experts (and you in doing this video) figured out pretty quickly that armor is really good at stopping sharp pointy things. Have enough layers, and you can stop a lot of what any sword, spear, or dagger can do. And with plate (or in this case, modern armor), that effectiveness is reduced even further.
    Blunt damage, however, doesn't care how much armor you have. The concussive force of blunted weapons transfers through armor, causing damage through concussions, breaking bones, and bruising.
    So if you're fighting someone in armor, you're better off picking up a big rock and bashing their helmet in than trying to slice them up with a big sword.

    • @KevekGaming
      @KevekGaming 8 месяцев назад +21

      Well you say that... but Dequitem who does fully armored unchoreographed fights against other people in armor says that he prefers a sword over a blunt weapon.

    • @aaronbrandon2321
      @aaronbrandon2321 8 месяцев назад +40

      All armor has weak points, a sword wouldn't make it through the plate armor so they'll just stab backside of your knee. You have an obvious leg up in armor but the sword still killed many a plated knight.

    • @sweracoon7931
      @sweracoon7931 8 месяцев назад +51

      @@aaronbrandon2321 Sure, but you're still at a disadvantage. There's a reason blunt and pick-like weapons became prevalent in the later medieval ages. That, or just wrestling (there are entire treatises just about armoured grappling) your oppnent and try to get a dagger into the weak spots.

    • @markwhite168
      @markwhite168 8 месяцев назад +22

      Actually armor, especially plate armor does help against concussive force too, as it spreads it around a much larger surface - one could see a difference between a hit with warhammer onto the helmet and later onto the bare head, that burst into pieces from a single hit. Still even a non-penetrating hit to the helmet would probably break a neck below that head. The difference still is that to deliver such a powerful blow one needs to do a large swing and a skilled opponent will have time to react, for instance with a quick stab.

    • @99Knytes
      @99Knytes 8 месяцев назад +2

      A sword can still deal concussive force; it's still a bat of hardened steel.
      Besides, against an armored opponent you would be attacking the weak points and joints; whether by chops, or going to half-sword and use locks, throws, and thrusts toward the eye slits.
      Plus, there's a reason the Mordhau (Murder Stroke) technique exists.

  • @IssunEmbersong
    @IssunEmbersong 5 месяцев назад +7

    Having some well-crafted weaponry would make for a fantastic part 2, even if it's just one or two~
    But somebody get this man an *actual* claymore, that would be amazing!

  • @BlazingOwnager
    @BlazingOwnager 8 месяцев назад +978

    Man, I would love for you to get some medieval weapon youtubers out there to do another one of these with you using high-grade proper combat weapons. Not enough videos doing this on youtube.

    • @Richard-r1x7d
      @Richard-r1x7d 8 месяцев назад +18

      A very good idea we have a lot of medieval over here. 53°/ 0°

    • @viscounttudon68
      @viscounttudon68 8 месяцев назад +97

      Skallagrim please I beg

    • @MbisonBalrog
      @MbisonBalrog 8 месяцев назад +80

      Shadiversity, Schola, and Metatron be great out there. I believe Meta used to live in Tenn and is in US right now.

    • @Manco65
      @Manco65 8 месяцев назад +12

      ​@@MbisonBalrogI wasn't aware he moved. I do understand that he's had to spend some time back in Italy due to his mother's passing.

    • @MbisonBalrog
      @MbisonBalrog 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@Manco65 I may be wrong

  • @FondlesHandles
    @FondlesHandles 8 месяцев назад +533

    the really neat thing about those bludgeoning weapons is even though they dont look like they did much obvious damage, they would still be debilitating. fractured collarbone, whiplash, broken neck, brain damage.

    • @Vault57
      @Vault57 8 месяцев назад +54

      The key thing you said was 'obvious damage'. Most of those hits could still cause soft tissue and nerve damage, the nerve damage being the more debilitating. Nerve injuries can take a long time to get over. That said, most of the head blows could cause death hours or days later. Yet humans have been known to take severe traumatic injuries and end up living out of spite. Who knows?

    • @djtrac3r935
      @djtrac3r935 8 месяцев назад +18

      Yeah dude, the flail hit he did looked fucking gnarly

    • @Mr45chicken
      @Mr45chicken 8 месяцев назад +26

      @FondlesHandles couldn't agree more but to add on to that if you got hit with a moring star in the sternum there is a high probability of ribs and possibly other bones breaking and puncturing a lung or other vital organs and even if nothing broke internal bleeding is almost guaranteed with that kinda impact so basically screwed either way

    • @LPikeno
      @LPikeno 8 месяцев назад +40

      Yes. A warhammer to the 'anywhere' of the body, regardless of armor, is going to be AT LEAST tough on the bones.
      Back when soldiers wore tin cans, bludgeoning was the weapon of choice: Oh, you have armor on your chest? Now you have armor IN your chest.
      Inertia is a very dangerous weapon indeed.

    • @bloodsweatandsteel.2749
      @bloodsweatandsteel.2749 8 месяцев назад +20

      Yup. Neck injury for sure eaven with the helmet. Especially with the war hammer. Your not getting up i don't care how good your helmet is....but still ware the damn helmet anyway. Would make all the difference with a glancing blow, and you don't see many glancing blow tests either so I would be interested.

  • @ocularcavity8412
    @ocularcavity8412 7 месяцев назад +1173

    Somebody needs to give him some Historically Accurate, Sharp, Temperature hardened weapons so he can film a part 2 of this, the DAMAGE and CHAOS he would create would be EPIC!!!!! I would PAY MONEY to see that XD

    • @bunhelsingslegacy3549
      @bunhelsingslegacy3549 7 месяцев назад +81

      Honestly, my stage blade that I do full strength, full speed medieval armoured combat with, duller than the back side of a butter knife, will still split pumpkins and watermelons quite handily with good technique. I have no doubt that should one of my fight buddies hit me with it where I'm unarmoured, I will have serious regrets and very likely split skin and broken bones.
      We do a pumpkin massacre every year to see how well different tools and weapons go through something approximating flesh, and having tried all manner of sharp and dull swords, how sharp it is doesn't make that big a difference till you're already most of the way through.
      That claymore though, was really disappointing, looked way too wiggly just to start off with.

    • @dillonwagers2975
      @dillonwagers2975 7 месяцев назад +15

      Totally, do you know of anyone who sells good stuff online?

    • @ocularcavity8412
      @ocularcavity8412 7 месяцев назад

      @@dillonwagers2975 His stuff is not cheap but it is GOOD quality, check out Tod's Workshop, he make High Quality Historically accurate weapons, also make props for Movies and Medieval Re-enactment, he has a website, and a RUclips Channel

    • @jacobharris3208
      @jacobharris3208 7 месяцев назад +14

      He used some pretty good weapons. The Windlass Classic Medieval sword is actually a quality piece. Think I saw the cold steel warhammer too

    • @ocularcavity8412
      @ocularcavity8412 7 месяцев назад

      @@dillonwagers2975 check out Tod's Workshop, High quality but NOT cheap

  • @rizoki2920
    @rizoki2920 18 дней назад +1

    This is personally one of my favorite videos because it shows you how fast we’ve changed and mostly seeing Scott cursing the zombies skull 😂

  • @Verkozius
    @Verkozius 8 месяцев назад +313

    You walk alone in the middle of the night, and you see some random big dude with a medieval helmet, riding a mini-motorcycle, and wielding a javelin, *going towards you*
    Definitely nightmare worthy

    • @yilso8663
      @yilso8663 7 месяцев назад

      Funny thing is, a toddler with a pistol is way deadlier

    • @randomfactsthatdontmatter3466
      @randomfactsthatdontmatter3466 7 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@yilso8663I really don't think that's true.

    • @yilso8663
      @yilso8663 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@randomfactsthatdontmatter3466 Depends on the number of people nearby and the proficiency of the toddler with a gun.
      But let's not get technical here.

    • @EPIC_DRAGONSS
      @EPIC_DRAGONSS 7 месяцев назад +1

      He didn't notice but when he hit it with that thing with the three spiky balls on it he shouted like all the ribs if you watch a song on one of the ribs went into the shoulder piece

    • @Bleepbleepblorbus
      @Bleepbleepblorbus 7 месяцев назад +1

      The universe where gunpowder was never invented

  • @KentuckyBallistics
    @KentuckyBallistics  8 месяцев назад +372

    Which medieval weapon was your favorite?!? I hope you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching!

  • @jamesjanney4440
    @jamesjanney4440 8 месяцев назад +158

    The mace and Morningstar are great bludgeoning weapons. They will not go through armor, but if you remember what the 4bore did by putting a fist sized hole through the torso while also not going through the armor, you can get an idea what can be done with blunt force against an armored torso.

    • @shawn6860
      @shawn6860 8 месяцев назад +9

      bludegeon wepons are good ways to damage via kinetic Energy. A must have on any medieval battlefield.

    • @AnAverageGoblin
      @AnAverageGoblin 8 месяцев назад +18

      @@shawn6860 i'll keep that in mind the next time my peasant village gets raided by barbarians 👍

    • @DoctorInk20
      @DoctorInk20 8 месяцев назад +15

      That 4-bore round punching the armour _into_ the torso is what I imagine a critical failure armour save looks like in *Dungeons & Dragons.* 😂

    • @Hunne2303
      @Hunne2303 8 месяцев назад

      see modern tank rounds...mostly all kinetic penetrators a.k.a. blunt force

    • @James_Ketchum87
      @James_Ketchum87 5 дней назад

      that 4 bore used the armor against the target, that was hilarious

  • @nicklopez3461
    @nicklopez3461 2 месяца назад +1

    Maybe not the most historically accurate - but let's face it - we're here to have a good time. Talk about a video full of hell yeah.
    You should have a special where you have a HEMA guest on and really let some of these weapons shine. You'd have a blast being in a duel, I think.

  • @xSergisX
    @xSergisX 8 месяцев назад +92

    that skull cracking open has given me a new level of appreciation for melee weapons
    especially as someone who is not going about his day wearing armor
    i also appreciate the oblivion looking helmet

  • @AbdulAhad-hi5sv
    @AbdulAhad-hi5sv 8 месяцев назад +349

    That Mongolian style spear throwing while riding a motorcycle was impressive.
    Never commented much and never got so many likes. Scott should start his own Mongolian clan.
    All hail to overgrown motorcycle riding Mongolian.

    • @billypowell1332
      @billypowell1332 8 месяцев назад +7

      That was impressive

    • @jojoking4
      @jojoking4 8 месяцев назад +10

      the face he made at the time. less impressive

    • @hyperturbotechnomike
      @hyperturbotechnomike 8 месяцев назад +9

      Mongolian biker gang

    • @Jargolf86
      @Jargolf86 8 месяцев назад +19

      The White Scars approve.

    • @jamesallred460
      @jamesallred460 8 месяцев назад +3

      That throw was epic, and as someone else already said, it should be put on a t-shirt immediately.

  • @KITOULEAF
    @KITOULEAF 7 месяцев назад +331

    the way the giant sword bent like a plastic ruler made me shrivel

    • @thisdude9363
      @thisdude9363 7 месяцев назад +84

      Well that's what happens when you use a stainless steel wallhanger to actually hit things with. Scott is lucky none of these cheap display swords snapped. While these blunt decoration "swords" aren't that dangerous to be hit by, unless you sharpen it and make at least the first hit dangerous, if they break on impact you can suddenly have stainless steel shrapnel flying around and that isn't very ideal.

    • @rigel9228
      @rigel9228 6 месяцев назад +25

      ​@@thisdude9363 Tbf, a good quality steel sword is supposed to bend a bit/be flexible but the one in the video obviously isn't like that

    • @thisdude9363
      @thisdude9363 5 месяцев назад +23

      @@rigel9228 Springy, yes. Bend in half? No. Lol.

    • @Luwis1337
      @Luwis1337 5 месяцев назад +12

      ​@@thisdude9363let us talk about that the claymore is not even a claymore to begin with.
      Its just a sword with a 9 ft blade

    • @seanb-ss9se
      @seanb-ss9se 4 месяца назад +9

      ​@@Luwis1337it's not a claymore I'm pretty sure that's a decorative cheap knockoff zweihandr

  • @jacksonstarky8288
    @jacksonstarky8288 25 дней назад

    A word of advice on Scott's bike-mounted spear throwing technique: If you're right-handed, you need to have your target on your right so that you're not attacking across your body. This is why the English drive on the left. And I'll say it again: you need to do what you can to make that follow-up video with Skallagrim.

  • @domhopper7402
    @domhopper7402 6 месяцев назад +354

    The main reason all of the sharp blade weapons had little to no effect is because during medieval times the only weapons that were MEANT to be used on armor were weapons that either had a hammer head on them or a spike so that they could either penetrate or weaken/break armor.
    Bladed weapons were primarily meant to target weak points of opponents where they have no armor or have the weakest amount of armor which was typically around the neckline and armpits whereas you were targeting the bulk of the armor specifically.

    • @bdgackle
      @bdgackle 6 месяцев назад +13

      I would argue that real weapons weren't used against armor BECAUSE that armor was effective. Hitting modern armor would (apparently) be bad tactics as well -- but testing that directly is the only way of seeing whether said armor would work.

    • @agentwolfpl4703
      @agentwolfpl4703 5 месяцев назад +1

      .... innacurate

    • @doldemenshubarti8696
      @doldemenshubarti8696 4 месяца назад

      bladed weapons saw brief use around bronze age to iron age. and continued to be used in hotter climate as generally people used less armor. But in colder climate, bladed weapons were goddam useless. Bladed weapons do have amazing capability of damaging people with much less force (as long as they are sharpened), than blunt weapons that require massive momentum to be effective

    • @boxguytv
      @boxguytv 4 месяца назад +1

      I would also add blades seemed to be secondary weapons to those armor defeating tools. Spears were the best weapons due to reach and ease of training.

    • @Electricboy2.0
      @Electricboy2.0 4 месяца назад

      Believe what you want, fact is some weapons aren’t meant to be faced against armored enemies and some are, doesn’t mean you can’t use both on either or, you can use a katana on armored enemy you just have to know your stuff to get through, a katana might actually have been able to slice and cut right through considering there are amazing at that, and an actual long sword would probably be able to be jabbed right through modern armor as well, I haven’t tested this myself but armor now is meant for bullets and are meant for weakening the energy and slowing the speed of said bullets, not to stop a sword from cutting you down, along with that fact that this modern armor is very basic and can be easy just to avoid aiming for the armor entirely, blunt weapons were very good at handling people in armor bc you’d use the armor against them by making their body rattle within the armor, you can necessarily do that to modern armor since it isn’t full body armor, the helmet sure, that’s what you would target most with a blunt weapon, anyway all weapons would be good just know how to use it. Facing enemy’s that you couldn’t get past that had heavy armor most people would start using their surroundings as a way to take out said enemy, it’s about brains not bronze.

  • @TheRealGraylocke
    @TheRealGraylocke 8 месяцев назад +261

    With Scott, it's not so much what the weapon can do, but what the weapon can do with Scott's strength. And regarding melee weapons being no longer releveant, most of those hits snapped a neck, inflicted a concussion, cracked/shattered ribs despite the armor. That was, and is, their original purpose.

    • @eliabeck689
      @eliabeck689 8 месяцев назад +6

      Thank you for this!

    • @HorizonStronghold
      @HorizonStronghold 7 месяцев назад +64

      Still, these weapons are very cheap replicas made out of crap metal (I honestly can’t tell if it’s even steel for some of them).
      His “meat tenderizer” (which is modeled after a Warhammer) is the closest thing he had here to real medieval weaponry.
      I would be genuinely curious to see how much damage he could do with some authentic, high quality medieval weapons. If he can punch through a ballistic helmet with that crap, what can he do with a real war pick?

    • @eliabeck689
      @eliabeck689 7 месяцев назад +7

      @@HorizonStronghold That is something I'd like to know, too! :)

    • @Ein_Kunde_
      @Ein_Kunde_ 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@HorizonStrongholdNot much more.
      The quality of the steel is much more important for thr armor than for the weapon.

    • @ZedF86
      @ZedF86 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@HorizonStronghold That arming sword was well made as well. Consider the amount of flex from those blows, and the fact that it was straight as an arrow at the end.
      Most medieval weapons are cheap replicas or hobby pieces by guys who like hammers and have too much time on their hands, but I've no doubt there are more than a few forges that still make good quality replicas and analogues. Particularly for those who practice fencing or mock combat. There is such a thing as an MMA for knights, for example.

  • @kramerfortuna7228
    @kramerfortuna7228 8 месяцев назад +95

    That minibike drive-by spear throw was OFFICIALLY the coolest thing I've seen. You're a LEGEND, man!!

  • @jacksonstarky8288
    @jacksonstarky8288 25 дней назад

    Canadian here with a lot of friends in the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism). As others have said, with bludgeoning weapons it's more about momentum than penetration. As you saw with the mace and warhammer, a broken skull is a broken skull whether or not the weapon penetrates the helmet. I'm with earlier commentators about you making a Part 2 with better quality medieval weapons... and a collaboration with Skallagrim seems perfect, since he made a video in response to yours. I haven't seen it yet, but it's recommended next in my feed.

  • @xblackbart6922
    @xblackbart6922 8 месяцев назад +310

    "Well he's got a little hemmorage there OH I PUSHED IT BACK IN!! No big deal!!" LMAOOOOO

  • @jond7691
    @jond7691 8 месяцев назад +113

    Petition for Scott to get a Bec de Corbin!
    Also watching that sharp steel bending right next to exposed forearms gave me the absolute shivers. Gonna need bigger thumbs if those things snap on you

    • @Dirk_the_Daring
      @Dirk_the_Daring 8 месяцев назад +18

      It looks like he isn't using "battle-ready" weapons. The real ones are expensive.

    • @Zendvious
      @Zendvious 8 месяцев назад +29

      Yea that "Claymore" was just a piece of sheet metal, thankfully nothing happened

    • @Hunne2303
      @Hunne2303 8 месяцев назад +2

      got an auction comming up...they have a genuine lucerne hammer... I mean... I could just slip on the mousebutton and then somehow export it^^

  • @petrolhead0387
    @petrolhead0387 6 месяцев назад +557

    As a British historian, I can confirm that medieval knights often rode into battle with their heads supported by duck tape.

    • @Leon-eq6ei
      @Leon-eq6ei 5 месяцев назад +20

      As you can see in blueprints of leonardo davinci. They also used motorcycles to bm the defeated enemys by driving over their corpses

    • @SNVE_Mxlte
      @SNVE_Mxlte 3 месяца назад +4

      According to tales, they even used flex tape

    • @999Emergency24
      @999Emergency24 2 месяца назад +1

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @Redscopper
      @Redscopper 2 месяца назад +2

      *duct tape*

    • @petrolhead0387
      @petrolhead0387 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@Redscopper I was referring to the brand. Duck Tape all the way, *other brands of duct tape available at your nearest bondage store.

  • @DarkLord-c3z
    @DarkLord-c3z 26 дней назад

    This guy is hilarious.
    And the most entertaining YT channel right now.
    I’m glued to the screen 😂

  • @clem7542
    @clem7542 8 месяцев назад +109

    I love how Scott went from all serious and calm to just a guy having fun with whatever he gets his hands on and a ballistic dummy

    • @billant2
      @billant2 8 месяцев назад +8

      Well, after that last "blowup mishap", he doesn't take life granted, and rather have fun. ;)

    • @tenofprime
      @tenofprime 8 месяцев назад +4

      That is my favorite thing about him, he has so much fun it just draws you in.

  • @issintf925
    @issintf925 8 месяцев назад +628

    A Skallagrim Kentucky Ballistics crossover is exactly what we all need

    • @krakenpots5693
      @krakenpots5693 8 месяцев назад +31

      Definitely!!! I'm a fan of both channels, and I haven't seen Skall's reaction yet, but I'm excited to, and I would love to see them work on something together!!!

    • @KetaceanKyle
      @KetaceanKyle 8 месяцев назад +20

      i see you saw Skall's video as well.

    • @m0-m0597
      @m0-m0597 8 месяцев назад +15

      The true men community of HEMA sends its regards
      🍷

    • @mongolmees
      @mongolmees 8 месяцев назад +5

      Yes please.

    • @issintf925
      @issintf925 8 месяцев назад +4

      @@KetaceanKyle I did! Although I do like both channels as well

  • @ModernKnight
    @ModernKnight 8 месяцев назад +107

    That was fun to watch. The big sword at the end had issues with profile and edge alignment though., still modern materials are pretty tough. Even back in medieval times enough layers of linen were used as armour.

    • @SquareCube2323
      @SquareCube2323 8 месяцев назад

      How are those super long claymores good in battle? I mean it has range but I feel like it would be too hard to swing at multiple enemies

    • @hand_of_sithis2575
      @hand_of_sithis2575 8 месяцев назад +18

      @@SquareCube2323 Most claymores weren't that long. At most you'd be looking at about 6 feet from pommel to tip. They were balanced a lot better than the one Scott was wielding, so people could wield them with respectable dexterity. They also were not that flimsy, you saw how easily that sword bent, even against a softer target.
      That being said though, if I recall by the time they were starting to be used, they got replaced by Pikes, Halberds and Bec de Corbins due to their greater effectiveness against heavily armored opponents.

    • @SquareCube2323
      @SquareCube2323 8 месяцев назад +8

      @@hand_of_sithis2575oh that makes sense, I was confused by the size and floppiness of- wait 🤨

    • @Myomer104
      @Myomer104 8 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@SquareCube2323That thing was closer to what is called a "bearing sword," which is only meant to be held up and look pretty in a parade.

    • @Specter_1125
      @Specter_1125 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@hand_of_sithis2575while not necessarily claymores, great swords in general became common place around the same time as pikes. They weren’t replaced by them since. They did different, but still very important jobs when in an infantry formation (as did pollaxes, halberds, and other polearms).

  • @HoloCatHead
    @HoloCatHead 5 месяцев назад

    Dude
    You are my number 1 pick for any kind of combat scenario.
    Whether it is a zombie apocalypses or a team of youtubers vs another team of youtubers.

  • @granthaase7293
    @granthaase7293 8 месяцев назад +54

    The mini bike javelin throw might be one of the coolest things I've ever watched in Slow Mo

  • @chaseb8397
    @chaseb8397 8 месяцев назад +73

    I could hear my inner Scotsman screaming in rage when you called that, 9 foot Lord of the rings replica 275 Steel dilldo a Claymore. Hopefully you didn't pay $1500 for it. That's like buying a AR with a PVC pie for barrel.

    • @AdblockWillWin7853
      @AdblockWillWin7853 8 месяцев назад +8

      I feel you on the... thing that's definitely not claymore. The part that got me screaming in rage was the morning star... that's not a freaking morning star. The thing with the chain isn't a morning star, and the morning star isn't a morning star.

    • @jeffreyvanvoorst2077
      @jeffreyvanvoorst2077 8 месяцев назад +3

      Who makes swords out of mild spring steel?

    • @Hunne2303
      @Hunne2303 8 месяцев назад +1

      but, as proven elsewhere, PVC pipes are actually able to deflect bullets...in essence you can shoot around corners

    • @chaselazar5900
      @chaselazar5900 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@jeffreyvanvoorst2077 who ever made that dark souls abomination

    • @jefforymitchell5697
      @jefforymitchell5697 8 месяцев назад +2

      I haven't cried laughing at a youtube comment in a while, thanks for that 😂

  • @chapelknight951
    @chapelknight951 8 месяцев назад +61

    A few things to critique that would make for an awesome video:
    • Accurate weapon types. The one handed flail may have never been used in combat, but the huge 2 handed flail definitely was. Poleaxes were also beasts of the period.
    • Quality. Some of these replicas seem to be of low quality and lack resilience of medieval spring steel.
    • Edge alignment. A little practice lining that edge up would greatly help the cut he's getting. That and some good sharpening. He did well as someone who may not even use a machete or bill hook.
    • He could've incorporated projectile weapons such as crossbows, bows, and medieval hand cannons.

    • @killerflamingo9566
      @killerflamingo9566 8 месяцев назад +7

      Yeah definitely fun video but you can tell this isn’t his normal wheelhouse

    • @RexApplegate
      @RexApplegate 8 месяцев назад +5

      I'd like to see if a properly built medieval spec falchion could cut the 3a like they did gambison.

    • @squidwardo7074
      @squidwardo7074 8 месяцев назад +1

      bring in tods workshop and do some proper tests

    • @legionvexillarius3744
      @legionvexillarius3744 8 месяцев назад

      If he really wanted some good quality weapons and potentially armor, places like medieval extreme and Canadian Buhurt, make sports equipment for the sport of Buhurt, Wich are really strong and historically accurate, to a certain degree.

    • @ianrawlings2546
      @ianrawlings2546 8 месяцев назад

      Some people will whinge about anything. Go watch another channel or a history documentary. We're happy with Scott's obsession with huge firearms.

  • @GodzillaMaster18
    @GodzillaMaster18 Месяц назад +1

    Nah just imagine breaking into Scott’s house and see him with the knight helmet on and 4a soft body armor with a sword and a 500 magnum. The last words you hear will probably be “HAVE AT THEE”

  • @tracyscharber7776
    @tracyscharber7776 7 месяцев назад +75

    Oh, God, the look on Scott's face when he nailed the zombie torso with the spear from the minibike was like "omfg, I cant believe that worked!"

  • @Nushnark
    @Nushnark 8 месяцев назад +30

    I really hope Scott picks up HEMA after this and tries those tests again afterwards. Him being able to throw a cut with decent edge alignment would be even more terrifying than the haymakers he threw at the zombie.
    That being said, every medieval levy would be happy that Scott wasn't there to swing a warhammer at them.

  • @with_The_Butler
    @with_The_Butler 8 месяцев назад +212

    Could you seriously consider doing more like this?
    There are so many channels dedicated to these old weapons, but they are all busy being analytical and serious, they never get to the fun parts. I have been waiting to see a fun video like this one for YEARS!

    • @johndortheknight4802
      @johndortheknight4802 8 месяцев назад +14

      Shadaversaty (spelled it wrong but it’s a rough combo for my dumb arse to remember) they do really great breakdowns of the fun bits they do and they’ve got a Titansword in the works right now

    • @with_The_Butler
      @with_The_Butler 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@johndortheknight4802 Shadiversity. I watch some of his stuff periodically. He does good on the information and analyzing things, but the fun parts I've seen are always pretty short, and drown in the mix of the analyses.
      What Scott did here, was almost non-stop fun.
      Kind of like some of the other Gun channels, being a lot more analytical... And then we have Scott here, shooting the Chronograph.
      (For the record, I'm not trying to knock Shad or any of the other channels. They do what they do quite well. I just think Scott has landed on untapped potential, in part due to the fact he can more easily afford to do this.)

    • @lemax6865
      @lemax6865 7 месяцев назад +5

      I agree, on the condition that he gets good quality weapons. As shown here, mall-ninja stainless steel weapon-shaped objects usually break after a single blow and are not a good representation of medieval weaponry. Yes to smashing zombie torsos with them, I don't need him to expose on the weapon's history and design like other channels do, but get weapons. Just look at the difference in quality between the "pointy-meatball-on-a-stick" or "spiky-scepter" and the "meat-tenderizer". Sure, that warhammer doesn't look like it was made using historical methods, but it's well-built enough that it withstands intended use, so for a video like this one, I call it good enough. He even has a few good ones in there, the arming sword and javelin seem pretty accurate.

    • @with_The_Butler
      @with_The_Butler 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@lemax6865 Exactly!
      But I'll admit, for a cheap price, even some mall-ninja stuff vs watermelons or eggplants could prove quite entertaining for a brief mid-video skit.

    • @wurstelei1356
      @wurstelei1356 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@with_The_Butler Not only watermelons. Versus Zombies I definitely would prefer a war hammer over a 9mm since you kinda never run out of ammo. Those are cracking skulls very effectively.

  • @Banefane
    @Banefane 4 месяца назад +1

    You know what is more amazing than all that testing, that the tester uses all those weapons pretty accurate and powerful.

  • @dan_mccaulley
    @dan_mccaulley 8 месяцев назад +62

    The slow mo of Scott on the scooter with the helmet and spear had me good

  • @TenemaesLament
    @TenemaesLament 8 месяцев назад +232

    Not gonna lie: watching Scott swing around that flail puckered my butt a bit. Glad no hospital trips were incurred

    • @The_Keeper
      @The_Keeper 8 месяцев назад +7

      Well, he can't load a flail with a overpowered round and blow himself up (at least, I hope not), sooo...

    • @CucuiKingGanondorf
      @CucuiKingGanondorf 8 месяцев назад +10

      @@The_KeeperIf anyone can find a way, it’s Scott.

    • @Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88
      @Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88 8 месяцев назад +10

      ​@@The_Keeper When he tossed that spear while on the minibike I was hoping the butt of the spear didn't swing around in a way that he'd run into it.

    • @-Zevin-
      @-Zevin- 8 месяцев назад +7

      @@The_Keeper You would be surprised how seriously injured people get with stuff like this, especially cheap not historically accurate replica stuff which is often made out of poor quality stainless steel that is brittle, brittle steel snaps off with shar edges and tends to going flying. The flanges on the mace are particularly prone to breaking in that way. Of course the famous old video of the guy on TV selling a "samurai sword" who then bangs it on the table to "demonstrate how strong it is. Right when it breaks off at the hilt and the front half flips around and stabs him right in the stomach... That's a old internet classic clip from the early days of RUclips.

    • @Darkphoenix3450
      @Darkphoenix3450 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@The_Keeper 'Not true, 1400s they did have gun hammers, and shields. Even a sword gun.

  • @bensullivan9478
    @bensullivan9478 8 месяцев назад +124

    the slowmo of the brain popping out to say hello and then sneaking back in was gold❤

    • @billant2
      @billant2 8 месяцев назад +1

      Oh yeah at 8:50 at first I thought it was his eye popping out through his skull, but after careful replay, it was the brain. baha

    • @robwoodring9437
      @robwoodring9437 8 месяцев назад +1

      Some days my brain pops out to say hello, but this is not that day.

  • @michalsniadala1667
    @michalsniadala1667 2 месяца назад +22

    0:10 bro beat a giant metal cok

  • @portaljumper339
    @portaljumper339 8 месяцев назад +145

    As a D&D player and medieval weapons enthusiast, I'd recommend getting some properly forged and tempered swords for the next time you make a video like this. The way those blades bend and flop around shows that they're probably just prop weapons made of basic sheet steel that was ground to shape rather than being an actual forged blade meant to see actual combat. Love your stuff and I'd love to see more medieval weapons videos, especially if you get a hold of some real quality stuff!

    • @Errtuabyss
      @Errtuabyss 8 месяцев назад +11

      The problem wasn't the steel but the nonsensical construction. It's obvious decent (but not ideal) spring steel, but much to thing for the size (which makes it that floppy).
      Hitting with the flat also didn't help😅
      Your point is still correct. The only fully functional weapon seems to be the one-handed sword (which he decapitated the torso with a single, not overly precise strike) and the spike of the "tenderizer" (the hammer end was non-sensical with the flattend ends which are suppose to help the hammer grip flat, curved surfaces to transfer the force into the target). The rest was wallhanger crap.

    • @SophiaAstatine
      @SophiaAstatine 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@ErrtuabyssI think you're mostly talking about the spaghettified twohander

    • @kalashnikov1343
      @kalashnikov1343 8 месяцев назад +5

      Swords were actually made to slightly bendy, because otherwise they would shear and break. It's called spring steel.

    • @gothnate
      @gothnate 8 месяцев назад +9

      "ground to shape rather than being an actual forged blade meant to see actual combat" Amateur bladesmith here. Forged doesn't necessarily mean a stronger blade. Ground (stock removal) doesn't necessarily mean a weaker blade. They are just ways to shape the blade. What really counts is the materials and how you heat treat and temper them. Modern steels designed for blades are far superior than any medieval steels, no matter where it came from. There's not even a debate amongst bladesmiths about that fact.
      And before you throw out the fanboy line, "Damascus is the best steel and even better than anything today!" allow me to pre-correct you. Damascus steel only comes from the region of Damascus in Syria. It's pattern welded steel. They were the first to take multiple grades of steel; high carbon, low carbon, and anywhere in between, and mix them together in a twisting pattern and forge weld them all together. This made the resulting steel more balanced, so you'd still have the hardness of the high carbon, but the toughness of the low carbon. We still use the same techniques to make pattern welded steel today, but only for decoration, since any seam or line you can see in the blade after etching, will be a weak point in the metal. Our modern steels mix the right amount of carbon and iron to make a homogenized steel, which gives it the edge, pun intended.
      The "right" amount of carbon is completely dependent on what the steel is designed for. For carving knives (kitchen and similar), you want a high carbon steel so it holds its edge for longer. For fighting knives, you want a tougher blade, so it'll generally be more of a low carbon steel. For swords and knives you'll definitely use to beat things but still need sharp, you'll want a spring steel core with a high carbon edge and if a single edge blade, a low carbon spine to use for striking.
      When you buy a decent weapon from a smith, you're not paying for the materials. You're paying for the expertise of the smith themselves. A good smith will know when to use which metals. Whether it's stock removal or forging, that's probably the least important part of the entire process. I know it's definitely the fastest.

    • @portaljumper339
      @portaljumper339 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@kalashnikov1343 That’s what tempering does in a forged sword, giving it back some of that elasticity so that it doesn’t shatter like glass, but swords are absolutely not supposed to bend like a pool noodle when hitting soft armor or flesh. Those are basically cosplay swords.

  • @ohheyychristian
    @ohheyychristian 8 месяцев назад +103

    Imagine you're an alien who crashed on earth and you're wandering through the Kentucky trees only to find Scott at 0:02 in the middle of the only opening you've seen as your first life contact on earth XD

  • @Overdriver999
    @Overdriver999 8 месяцев назад +19

    One of the best episodes yet and not even featuring a gun! Watched this with the family and we all laughed out loud throughout. Well done, Scott!

  • @anonymousmink5027
    @anonymousmink5027 Месяц назад +3

    Funnily enough, historically speaking, most medieval armors could stop medieval weapons just fine, in fact, plate armor was such an issue that specific weapons (such as daggers and rapiers) were invented to counteract them by being nimble and easily thrust into the smaller slits between the armor, alongside weapons (such as flails and war hammers) which are not designed to go through the armor deeply in the literal sense but more in the sense of "I didn't go through your helmet, but I just snapped your neck or gave you a massive, debilitating concussion at the minimum"

  • @ShadowRunner73
    @ShadowRunner73 8 месяцев назад +78

    this is actually pretty useful to remember that ALL armor has it's limits and even modern armor can be defeated when enough force in applied

    • @vipe650r
      @vipe650r 8 месяцев назад +3

      Especially in a small enough area.

    • @FirstLast-wk3kc
      @FirstLast-wk3kc 8 месяцев назад +7

      A reminder those are super cheap super weak improper replicas.
      Not much better than a hefty stick.

    • @AristasTheMonsterHunter
      @AristasTheMonsterHunter 8 месяцев назад +4

      Well, 15th century armor went pretty fucking hard. It could even protect from bullets at the time, it was so good that there was no point to even trying to break through it. Modern armor is trash in comparison, the only reason we use it is that it's way better for guns, since we designed it to do just that, stop bullets. A real state of the art 15th century helbard would have probably nearly no problems cutting it.

    • @TheDiner50
      @TheDiner50 8 месяцев назад +1

      It is pretty useful to remember that REGARDLESS of armor and even modern armor can be defeated when enough force in applied.
      It dose not matter what crash helmet or airbag subscription service you pay for. If your going 300km/h and ram strait into a concrete wall on a bike?
      The same thing with the best of armor. You can stop and limit the impact of a hit. You can absorb energy and spread it out over your hole body.
      If you neck is pushed to braking point from a helmet getting hit? It really dose not matter if metal or fancy space stuff. Your neck is going to give out unless supported.
      If your armor is strong enough to stop bullets or swords/spikes. Then focus is going to turn towards beating you up inside of the armor. The same with guns. Even if you are wearing gun rated armor? You still are going to notice a mag dump hitting you. Or say a 4-bore. Like even a 9mm is enough to question what your doing being shot at no?
      Unless your in a tank. (or say a car made to protect you in a crash. SUV...) Armor should.. Never mind. Even in a tank your armor is the last thing you want to be tested.
      You can be bombing around in a WW2 Maus or really anything. If you cross path with train tracks you better believe that the train is going to win that duel with a run up.

    • @FirstLast-wk3kc
      @FirstLast-wk3kc 8 месяцев назад

      @@AristasTheMonsterHunter that's the problem. He used the cheapest crap available.
      You can easily see absolute lack of quality.
      Although, you are too kind on armour => after 15 century our guns became too much better at armour piercing.
      We have anti tank rifles gosh damn it.
      Our heavy rounds are just too good, don't even hope for 15 century armour to work on each modern weapon.
      Low power guns? Most likely, i am not an expert nor American.
      But even ak47 and above are surely too much.

  • @awdcale
    @awdcale 8 месяцев назад +15

    19:03 this shot perfectly shows why I love this channel. Definitely need more sword videos.
    Also I couldn’t help but think that Mr Houston Jones would love to play with swords

  • @josephreyes5212
    @josephreyes5212 8 месяцев назад +185

    Skallagrim is going to have a field day with this video.

    • @XXNerdzillaXX
      @XXNerdzillaXX 8 месяцев назад +15

      Riiiiight?!

    • @josephreyes5212
      @josephreyes5212 8 месяцев назад +10

      @@XXNerdzillaXX alert the others

    • @legueu
      @legueu 8 месяцев назад +5

      Can't wait😁

    • @stinkyfungus
      @stinkyfungus 8 месяцев назад +14

      Perhaps he should offer to do a collaboration.

    • @au1317
      @au1317 8 месяцев назад +5

      @@stinkyfungus This would be tough with the distance but seriously awesome to see

  • @SnakeyFox07
    @SnakeyFox07 5 месяцев назад

    i scroll to read the comments, then i hear an engine and grunting and scroll back up to see a massive beast riding a mini motorcycle, wearing a medieval helmet, and throwing a spear at a realistic dummy... this video is amazing

  • @NihilusTheGreat
    @NihilusTheGreat 8 месяцев назад +140

    It's not a .600 nitro express revolver...but it'll do for now

    • @PattyBurg2448
      @PattyBurg2448 8 месяцев назад +1

      That just sounds nasty, I love it!

  • @wolfthorn1
    @wolfthorn1 8 месяцев назад +33

    I come for the hilarious intro.
    I stay for the carnage.
    I think its great to see Scott branch out.
    Pellet guns and slingshot would be awesome.

    • @ianrawlings2546
      @ianrawlings2546 8 месяцев назад

      Yeah, nah mate.

    • @davidgessin-mccully3919
      @davidgessin-mccully3919 8 месяцев назад

      @@ianrawlings2546
      There’s a .50cal pellet rifle that they use to hunt deer and wild hogs with it’s not your regular pellet gun. Makes my .22 pellet rifle look like a cap gun.

  • @garciatempensoniv3700
    @garciatempensoniv3700 8 месяцев назад +53

    it never occured to me how Scott would look so menacing with a medieval helmet on..
    imagine if he wore a proper crusader armour

    • @favkisnexerade
      @favkisnexerade 8 месяцев назад +5

      he needs a little bit of training 😅
      these one leg chicken stance attacks were funny 😂

    • @ZGryphon
      @ZGryphon 8 месяцев назад +1

      Much like an actual Crusader, he would be largely blind, mostly deaf, virtually immobile if not on horseback, and, after working hard in it for a while on a hot day, in desperate need of two or three well-trained people working as fast as they could to get him out of it before he died from heat exhaustion. :)

    • @sugipulaboule
      @sugipulaboule 8 месяцев назад

      @@ZGryphon You are terribly uninformed

    • @MrFright2010
      @MrFright2010 8 месяцев назад +1

      Kentucky Vult!

    • @enigmaodell6806
      @enigmaodell6806 8 месяцев назад +1

      All I’m thinking of is the scene with Gimli putting on the chain mail.
      “It’s a little tight around the chest”
      Also, i think that’s a jousting helmet, and is more modern than crusader armor

  • @jeffwinn673
    @jeffwinn673 2 месяца назад +1

    I think the Spikey Scepter (aka a Mace)versus an unprotected skull definitely leads to that skull's owner giving everyone downswing a piece of their mind... literally! The people downswing would also be left with a bone to pick with someone - or many chunks of bone to pick - when they realize some stains will never wash out. The skull's owner would likely end up insane as a result of the hit - having clearly lost their mind as a result. Maybe this is where that expression "I have half a mind" comes from. Suddenly getting sprayed by liquid mace doesn't seem too bad compared to the metal version.

  • @Myomer104
    @Myomer104 8 месяцев назад +41

    For future reference, Scott:
    1:33 Morningstar
    2:31 Flanged Mace
    6:18 Flail
    7:55 Warhammer
    11:14 Three-Headed Flail
    11:58 Arming Sword
    14:00 Spear (although yours has a javelin head instead of a standard spear head)
    16:17 Bearing Sword (meant for parades rather than combat)

    • @spacegordonramsay2486
      @spacegordonramsay2486 8 месяцев назад +3

      They also all seem to be”mall ninja” weapons

    • @Myomer104
      @Myomer104 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@spacegordonramsay2486 The warhammer, mace, and arming sword don't, but I'll agree with you about the rest. Especially the bearing sword.

    • @vast634
      @vast634 8 месяцев назад

      more like junk, junk, junk, junk... I think he overpaid on the items, and could get much higher quality and more authentic stuff for the same price.

  • @MrGlitch420
    @MrGlitch420 8 месяцев назад +53

    Love that you had a blast doing this. Some tips as martial artist who also remembers to return to bonk. Your blunt weapons and spear are of low quality,your "edged" weapons just need to be folded over and scrapped. Blunt weapons were primary aspect of aiming for armor weak points specifically,where spear were more for the less trained soldier to still be viable on the front lines even as fodder. Spear were also more crudely designed putting more emphasis on the spear head itself over the handle. Your edge weaponry should remain as flat as possible on impact,the sheer quality made me take a double take on what I just witnessed. With better quality weapons,consistent training,I could see them semi-viable in close quarter engagements against modernized armor,but there's a reason every war back then pushed for ranged. The risk isn't worth it,but remember,no matter what the weapon,your training is your only true reliable alley when it comes to handling yourself. As always,take care and happy hunting!

    • @Jarlemoore1
      @Jarlemoore1 8 месяцев назад +4

      Axes are still used in by special forces today as well as the good old shovel, when the enemy got a little too close for comfort a few times back in the day, I pulled my bowie and hand axe out and went Achilles on them.

    • @lawrenceneuenii3564
      @lawrenceneuenii3564 8 месяцев назад

      What about a Katana that was well made?

    • @thanosisgoodmorganisacrime382
      @thanosisgoodmorganisacrime382 8 месяцев назад

      I like halberd best. Large, large main blade, multiple blades... Lovely. I love cannolis too.

    • @billybobbeck6446
      @billybobbeck6446 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@lawrenceneuenii3564they are talking specifically about her knee in the video not being well made

    • @jingothejumper
      @jingothejumper 8 месяцев назад

      @@lawrenceneuenii3564 Breaks into three unequal pieces and the handle shatters as soon as it learns of the concept of armor

  • @FishGuyCharlie
    @FishGuyCharlie 6 месяцев назад +93

    Alright Scott, now you have to do modern weapons vs. medieval armor. I want to know what happens when a suit of armor is blasted by a Spas 12.

    • @cheeseburger1349
      @cheeseburger1349 24 дня назад +4

      the armor would most either have a giant hole in it or be heavily dented
      the person (in both scenarios) would be very dead (either from missing their ribs or from having their ribs shoved into their heart and lungs)

  • @gregnm369
    @gregnm369 8 месяцев назад +202

    The 9ft claymore was hilarious. Imagine 100+ screaming Scotsmen running at you with the wacky waving inflatable arm flailing tubeman of swords.

  • @nicolaandria522
    @nicolaandria522 8 месяцев назад +16

    Seeing the amount of flex of the two replica swords I honestly think this episode was much, much more dangerous for Scott than usual, I was expecting them to come apart any moment.

    • @panoctic
      @panoctic 8 месяцев назад +1

      pretty much, reminds me of that katana comercial where the guy taps the sword into the table and break and stabs him. cheap blades are more danger than people give credit.

  • @DantheJanitor
    @DantheJanitor 8 месяцев назад +22

    Every resident of the UK really needed this video. Thanks for looking out for those less fortunate over the pond.

  • @Micah-x5z
    @Micah-x5z 4 месяца назад

    note to scott: if u didnt already know, the one with the spiky ball on a stick is called a spiked ball mace, the spiky scepter thing was a flanged war mace and the one with a spiked ball on a chain is called a mourning star

  • @alesterryku
    @alesterryku 8 месяцев назад +71

    id like to see a re-test but with Shadiversity or Skaligrim to show him what real, decent quality medieval weaponry can do

    • @shawn6860
      @shawn6860 8 месяцев назад

      Dash Randar (spelling?) did one with archery and melee vs armor for a fallout video I think.

    • @patrikhjorth3291
      @patrikhjorth3291 8 месяцев назад +9

      Skallagrim at least lives on the same continent, so he seems like the logical first choice for a visit to the Kentucky Ballistics Whack-a-Zombie Range.

    • @AlexNV75
      @AlexNV75 8 месяцев назад

      @@shawn6860dash also did a video with Administrative Results over this topic I think

    • @dogishappy0
      @dogishappy0 8 месяцев назад +3

      Low key hoping Shad does a video reaction to this

    • @shaynewalker3248
      @shaynewalker3248 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@patrikhjorth3291 Unfortunately, Skall is a furry so....

  • @NekoColaQ
    @NekoColaQ 8 месяцев назад +20

    I hope the spear makes it's triumphant return in future videos. I think Scott is showing some true talent with it!

  • @ProactiveYellow
    @ProactiveYellow 8 месяцев назад +66

    I love how the war hammer (meat tenderizer) and triple flail tests really show exactly what the correct tools for defeating armor are, that being thick spikes to punch through, and blunt force trauma to put energy through the armor itself. There are two ways to deal with armor, going around it, and going through it, and big heavy sticks with stiff points tend to do better than thin blades for going through.

    • @RomaCHEIMS
      @RomaCHEIMS 8 месяцев назад +8

      Plus blunt weapons are very great for strong users, imagine the damage Scott could do with a lucerne

    • @Jarlemoore1
      @Jarlemoore1 8 месяцев назад

      The force form the triple flail broke the zombies neck, very effective to say the least.

  • @wyomingmando
    @wyomingmando 2 месяца назад

    I have honestly wanted to do this testing for years! So thank you for satisfying my morbid curiosity 😂

  • @quietpsycho1
    @quietpsycho1 8 месяцев назад +97

    Skallagrim just did a reaction to this, and now I need to see a collaboration.

    • @liontamer2006
      @liontamer2006 8 месяцев назад +6

      Yes, I'm looking forward to skall doing his video of this testing with quality armor and weapons.

  • @Biggestmac27
    @Biggestmac27 8 месяцев назад +112

    You would be a berserker in mid evil times Scott 💪

    • @Leviticusto
      @Leviticusto 8 месяцев назад +11

      Medieval

    • @BlazingOwnager
      @BlazingOwnager 8 месяцев назад +7

      Either that or the guy inventing the ballista. "Crossbows are fine, but I need a bigger crossbow with more recoil! I said bigger!"

    • @High-Overlord-Pugula
      @High-Overlord-Pugula 8 месяцев назад +4

      Scott is so big he'd scare the hell out of 99% of people in medieval times

    • @Berserker436
      @Berserker436 8 месяцев назад

      About that👀

    • @HeWhoSlayethCain
      @HeWhoSlayethCain 8 месяцев назад

      I now need to see Scott play a D&D game where he's an Orc Barbarian multiclasses as a Ranger........

  • @lostmypicks
    @lostmypicks 6 месяцев назад +28

    Bro. Your spear skills are matched with your table throws. Best in the game

  • @ds0703
    @ds0703 5 месяцев назад

    1 - morgenshtern,2 - Pernach, Mace the six-feathered 3 - Flail or chain Morgenstern 4 - war hammer(raven beak) 5 - a short sword with a fuller they were made from 1050 to 1350 6 - Short spear 7 -
    Grand Pierre's sword, the largest of the European two-handed swords, 2 meters 15 cm long and weighing 6 kg 600 grams
    Excellent episode, it was interesting to watch it
    P.S.-so, for reference, real weapons from the Middle Ages were forged, and not made of sheet metal (if it were forged, then you could easily cut the dummy and the sword would be intact)

  • @clon1122
    @clon1122 8 месяцев назад +32

    What this really shows is how effective the spear is! A strong man with little arms training can throw and thrust fairly well!

    • @benjaminsillence8278
      @benjaminsillence8278 8 месяцев назад +1

      Does Scott have little arms?

    • @vast634
      @vast634 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@benjaminsillence8278 he has the right to bear little arms

    • @friedrichrubinstein
      @friedrichrubinstein 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@benjaminsillence8278 "little arms-training" aka a bit of weapon training

    • @benjaminsillence8278
      @benjaminsillence8278 8 месяцев назад

      @@friedrichrubinstein I know what he was saying - it was a joke :)

    • @arjanwow
      @arjanwow 8 месяцев назад +2

      Easiest weapon to use and craft from history, reason most levies were equiped with spears or fire hardened sticks

  • @damienwilliams2274
    @damienwilliams2274 8 месяцев назад +80

    Your claymore sword suffered a catastrophic failure, I’m going to have to ask you to leave the gun range 😂

    • @Richard-r1x7d
      @Richard-r1x7d 8 месяцев назад +4

      It will cut

    • @pyronderman9055
      @pyronderman9055 8 месяцев назад

      forged in gunpowder

    • @brandonveltri2825
      @brandonveltri2825 8 месяцев назад +10

      @@Richard-r1x7d but will it keal?

    • @unsub2132
      @unsub2132 8 месяцев назад +1

      Scot and David baker collab is now needed

    • @WilliamNyberg
      @WilliamNyberg 8 месяцев назад

      @@Richard-r1x7d actually, it won't cut..

  • @dantheplasticman9742
    @dantheplasticman9742 8 месяцев назад +15

    You should be very proud of yourself for your spear aim Scott, to nail that zombie in the sternum from your mini-bike? Many congratulations sir!

  • @mccaine1
    @mccaine1 4 месяца назад

    I am super impressed by that thrown spear from a moving bike! Well done!

  • @edmundolastra3279
    @edmundolastra3279 8 месяцев назад +20

    I adore how this demonstrates just how revolutionary the gun was. Here you have a variety of quality of weapons in strong if slightly untrained hands. Sure, they can do some damage. But put a gun in anybody's hands and if they are using it right, it's always doing pretty spectacular damage.
    Thanks a ton Scott 👍

    • @twojuiceman
      @twojuiceman 8 месяцев назад +7

      God may have created men but Samuel Colt made them equal

    • @another3997
      @another3997 8 месяцев назад

      Yes, and the USA is full of people prepared to shoot others at any time, any where and for just about any reason. Schools, work places and shopping malls appear to be popular targets. Its apparently what makes America so great. 😂 However, your premise is flawed because the medieval equivalent of a gun wasn't a sword, spear, flail or mace...it was a bow. A long bow, a recurve bow or a crossbow, with different types of arrow head, all of which made them very effective weapons that anybody could use. Oh, and the first firearms were single shot, slow to load, unreliable and incredibly inaccurate, meaning as an individual weapon, they weren't as effective as a bow. It took centuries of development to make them accurate and reliable.

    • @doublep1980
      @doublep1980 8 месяцев назад +9

      I wouldn't really call these "quality" weapons, with the exception of the warhammer, they look all pretty cheap, made out of inferior materials.

    • @another3997
      @another3997 8 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@twojuicemanNice tagline, but about as true as all those alien abduction stories and sightings of ghosts you hear about on TV. From the day man first picked up a stick or a stone to use as a weapon, equality was never the problem... superiority was. It still is and always will be the issue. Everybody wants an advantage over opponents.

    • @-Zevin-
      @-Zevin- 8 месяцев назад +6

      @@doublep1980 Exactly this, I think in general people seriously seriously misunderstand real medieval and ancient weapons. Today you really only see historically correct examples made by companies like Albion (For European swords) and those can be $1,500-to $5,000 up just for a single sword. In those time swords, spears and metallurgy were cutting edge technology that people trusted their lives to, incredible care, design and research went into their designs, it's far more complicated that it first seems. Distal taper for example is a classic example, cheap swords are made out of a modern bar of steel and ground with a machine into a sword like shape, for example a 4mm flat slab, but a real sword is hand forged and may taper from 9mm at the hilt down to 1.5mm at the tip, this taper dramatically changes the weight balance, and harmonics of the blade in use. This is all just scratching the surface, it's a fascinating topic. -Arms and armor antique collector with over 200 pieces currently.

  • @ZGryphon
    @ZGryphon 8 месяцев назад +23

    It may be worth noting that spears of the type seen here weren't commonly thrown in medieval warfare. _Javelins_ were, but they tended to be shorter and usually had barbed heads, since one of their main uses was to get stuck in an enemy's shield and make it too unwieldy to use. A javelineer would generally carry several since he wasn't getting them back, but a spearman would be very reluctant to throw his only weapon away.

  • @willierolon3735
    @willierolon3735 8 месяцев назад +18

    I stopped everything I was doing to watch this, and it didn't disappoint! Thanks for another awesome video, Scott and Scott Sr.

  • @JaceEditssOfficalYT
    @JaceEditssOfficalYT 2 месяца назад +1

    That 9ft sword is scary af💀😭 imagine seeing someone wield that back then?!

  • @2Quietus
    @2Quietus 8 месяцев назад +43

    Well, Scott, I used to DM/play D&D back when it was good (3.5 edition and prior) so I can help with all these weapons.
    So, In order of appearance:
    - Fantasy sword* (never made them that long)
    - Morningstar
    - Flanged Mace
    - Morningstar flail (single)
    - Warhammer
    - Morningstar flail (triple)
    - Arming sword (most common standard sword type)
    - Spear or Javelin (Interchangeable at that length and head type)
    - Warhammer (again)
    - Not a Claymore. Fantasy sword* (again. Never made them that long)
    - Arming Sword, again
    - Morningstar flail, again
    - Morningstar
    - Morningstar
    - Spiked War Club
    - Warhammer, again
    - Trident
    - Spear/Javelin, again
    - Torture device (knobby tires burn out on body)
    * European Medieval swords topped out from 150-175cm, or from 4'11" to 5'8" with the Zweihnder/Flamberge, and Claymore which were typically much shorter at 120 to 138cm, or 3'11" to 4'6". The longest real sword in Historical archives is the Japanese Odachi, and the very longest of the Odachi was called the "Orimitsu" coming in at 12 feet in length.

    • @sonicmoth8340
      @sonicmoth8340 8 месяцев назад +1

      treihander time

    • @jamesfrankiewicz5768
      @jamesfrankiewicz5768 8 месяцев назад +1

      Functional blades in Japan tended to top out at around 4 foot or so (measuring from the handguard to the tip). Anything significantly longer than that was usually manufactured to be a showpiece or temple offering. Such swords, including Norimitsu, can also be called "chōken" (literally "tall sword").
      edit: corrected the name of the sword

    • @chemislife
      @chemislife 8 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@jamesfrankiewicz5768I'm pretty sure that the odatchi he mentioned was the samurai Calvary sword and did see combat. It just wasn't as popular as the Naginata.

    • @wouldiwasshookspeared4087
      @wouldiwasshookspeared4087 8 месяцев назад +2

      4e was atrocious. I do miss some of the mechanics, but 5e is fun.

    • @patrickmcgee8556
      @patrickmcgee8556 8 месяцев назад +1

      I played 1st and 2nd edition......still have all that stuff to

  • @joeroche5048
    @joeroche5048 8 месяцев назад +88

    Missed opportunity to wear a Knight's armament shirt.

    • @stevecollett901
      @stevecollett901 8 месяцев назад +7

      Do you mean "Chainmail"?

    • @grahammertek6344
      @grahammertek6344 8 месяцев назад +10

      @@stevecollett901The firearms company, called Knight's Armament.

    • @Rogsnutle
      @Rogsnutle 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@stevecollett901 I don't get what "send this email to 5 of your friends" mail has to do with a premium rifle company, but go off I guess

    • @MAGS-ik5uj
      @MAGS-ik5uj 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@stevecollett901I have no idea if Knights armament does any chain mail or spam stuff, but the wit involved in this joke is amazing mate

  • @agib1368
    @agib1368 8 месяцев назад +9

    As a person with several boom sticks myself, it’s fun to throw axes and knives every once in a while. So playing with old school weapons seems like fun

  • @Volithras
    @Volithras 4 месяца назад +1

    Now imagine the "spikey scepter" used from horseback, as it had come to be used in the late medieval and early renaissance! Attached to the rider's saddle, it was often used as a sidearm if the rider were to be disarmed or if they needed a higher concentration of force/range. Mostly just a status symbol in Europe, and they used to cost as much or more than a decent sword.

  • @bluewater82
    @bluewater82 8 месяцев назад +29

    16:48 That is WICKED how you can see the twist travel up the blade, through the handle, into his hands, then up his arms.

  • @Canadiancodfish
    @Canadiancodfish 8 месяцев назад +89

    The spiky meatball on a stink is a mace and the spiky septer is a flanged mace

    • @jessorama
      @jessorama 8 месяцев назад +23

      If u wanna get technical the former is a morningstar

    • @LiamCampbell-d1f
      @LiamCampbell-d1f 8 месяцев назад +7

      Morningstar for meatball, scepter is a Pernach

    • @ButterDawgDawgWitDaBudda
      @ButterDawgDawgWitDaBudda 8 месяцев назад +2

      ​​@@jessorama So, do people call the morningstar without the spikes a mace in English?
      They're all "gürz" for me. I guess "bludgeon" would be the equivalent.

    • @tomwalker3687
      @tomwalker3687 8 месяцев назад +3

      The meat tenderiser is a warhammer

    • @Black_Fox07
      @Black_Fox07 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@tomwalker3687Sometimes refered to as a War Pick but either are used

  • @KageAkarui
    @KageAkarui 8 месяцев назад +85

    Id love to see a colab between Kentucky Ballistics and Shadiversity. A serious modern and medieval weapon test against modern and medieval armor. I think the topic alone is interesting. Scott knows where to get good quality modern arms and armor and Shad knows where to get quality medieval arms and armor. They each have their own expertise. I'd love to see something like that.

    • @ASquareNarwal
      @ASquareNarwal 8 месяцев назад +10

      Skallagrim would be better

    • @laisphinto6372
      @laisphinto6372 8 месяцев назад +6

      But skallagrim IS way too sane for sich a Thing unlike shad WHO IS nuts. Skallagrim IS Like a Count looking down on These two peasants meanwhile These two idiots Roll around in the mud

    • @arachnophilegrrl
      @arachnophilegrrl 8 месяцев назад +1

      Shad, Skall, Metatron and Sprav. All of the above please!

    • @tompatterson1548
      @tompatterson1548 7 месяцев назад

      @@laisphinto6372 An alternative point is that Shad is in Australia.

    • @dillonwagers2975
      @dillonwagers2975 7 месяцев назад

      That would be great!

  • @hadrienlucchesi4970
    @hadrienlucchesi4970 4 месяца назад +2

    as a swordsmarn i can tell you we have enought skill to aim were there is no armor, there a BIG gaps to cut or stab to. plus, if you have a blunt weapon just hit on the top of the head hard enought and no helmet will protectr your neck frop breaking like an uncoocked spagetti xD

  • @funkyschnitzel
    @funkyschnitzel 8 месяцев назад +4

    This is the content RUclips knew I needed. As a long time Tod's Workshop fan, and a slightly newer Kentucky Ballistics fan, this feels like the perfect union of those two loves.

  • @blandygaming115
    @blandygaming115 6 месяцев назад +43

    11:45 "nothing a little Duct tape can't fix" average school nurse after using some ice on your broken spine

  • @NYR14477
    @NYR14477 8 месяцев назад +12

    8:42 omg I love how the bubble keeps coming out and back in again

  • @edwardnammur5962
    @edwardnammur5962 4 месяца назад

    This is the kind of guy I wish I was friends with! Just testing Moderrn vs Medieval equipment and having a laugh.
    Definitely need to try using a Medieval Cannon next vs Modern. Then Tank vs Plate armor xD