Did Nintendo Improve The Xenoblade Pro Controller DPAD?
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- Yesterday the Xenoblade Switch Pro Controller was finally being used by the public, and it turns out the DPAD may have quietly been improved over the regular Pro controller. Today we are going to take a quick look at the Xenoblade DPAD to see if Nintendo actually improved it or if this is a placebo effect.
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How to know you're hardcore: You buy a controller you already have just for the d-pad
thebahooplamaster You're everywhere.
thebahooplamaster I bought it cuz I’m a hardcore Xenoblade fan (bought the collectors edition). The better D-pad is just a bonus.
thebahooplamaster i’d buy cause it looks cool and better D-Pad, Also don’t have a pro controller yet.
thebahooplamaster facts
I’m gonna buy one just because then I’ll have 4 full controllers
Man, lots of engineers and designers can't figure that out this even though it has never been a problem at all in the 90's... Damn
Sometimes I think John just looks for an excuse to take stuff apart.
I miss the digital d pad like on 3ds. You know exactly when you hit a direction because it clicks. Thats why I have no problem using left joycon for the few games I need it for.
Please keep up on the differences of the d-pads as they come out!!
this needs to be top comment and pinned ASAP
I want to find out about the dpad on the Snakebyte Game:Pad S/S Pro.
I hope that the special pro controllers become more common, sort of like how there’s so many different Xbox one controllers.
Bob bobinson they won’t
enjoi0555 I mean we already have 3 pro controller variations and a bunch of joycons colors. It probably won’t be as extensive as the Xbox controllers, but I can see more being made
Maybe, Nintendo's always had a penchant for customized stuff like with the 3ds etc
Since I use it mostly in handheld I'm more interested in special Joycon. They'd better get their asses to making some Pokémon ones once that comes around.
Nicolle but in one year xbox makes like 10 new designs. They are very goid at this so it would ve nice to have this on nintendo.
"This is not the d-pad you're looking for" - Obi-Spawn Kenobwave, 2017
When I first saw rumours of the DPAD being improved on the new special edition I knew I'd wait until Spawn Wave did a video on it, because I knew he would do his own testing to confirm. Thanks for the very helpful video!
It is so frustrating to watch you not organize your screws when your taking apart you things
Kind of ocd.
He actually does off to the side offscreen hes mentioned this before in an earlier tear down, i noticed the few screws on the left side but he for the most part he puts them on tape strips on computer paper and marks them or something
Mike Strong cant help it if i like to know and remember where each screw belongs
Spintechfilms he does it off screen. Watching him organize screws would be boring and pointless
Gewdvibes he does sped up teardowns.... be could still organize the screws (witch im sure he does just on the table and not in like ice trays or something) with the sped up teardown he can still better organize the screws
This is why I'm subscribed to Spawnwave.
Man, you disassembled and reassembled those controllers really fast. :P
He has super speed. Cool, huh?
No. He's clearly an iOS.
Sean Ryan Flash
The Xenoblade Controller handles looks like a Watermelon handle.
Gameplayer 119 they should’ve made the rest of it green to be a watermelon controller
Alexander Cabrera The Splatoon Controller is actually green and pink(ish) on 1 handle each now that i think about it. So the Splatoon controller is a Watermelon controller then.....
But in the middle of the Xenoblade controller, it is green. Shaped like some sort of Sword. Huh. I guess you can slice watermelons with that sword.
Sorry for my imagination taking me over.
The Controller is designed after Pyra's Chest, let that sink in for a second.
probably a pun to Pyra. if you know what I mean
mehehehe
TurboCMinusMinus Definitely.
I can't understand why they won't just stick with the SNES DPAd
I think the main problem is the stick that makes the distance between the boar and the controller carcase make it longer than the normal snes controller, so they need to cober that distance with a large membrane changing all the feeling
Shadow X But if the problem is that the board is too far away from the case to just stick, say, a SNES D-pad in there, why can't they just make a spacer? Like, why not just make a plastic disc the perfect thickness with copper inserts where the contacts are and stick the whole D-Pad assembly on top of that?
Using a SNES DPAD would require major changes to the design of the controller. Tweaking the molding is the best alternative from the manufacturing point of view. Adding something like a spacer would make things more complicated. All they really need to do is make small changes to the D-PAD molding and the membrane, and they could get the same feel without over complicating it.
CabinDoor Separated D-pads suck, what they should do is just plagiarize the D-pad from the Sega Saturn controller because it's the best D-pad ever made.
milkbullet sadly most people can't appreciate a good dpad like us especially younger people. I'm 20 and whenever I try to talk about the issues with the pro controller dpad and split joy con dpad with other people my age they just look at me like I'm crazy or say "who cares?". Because of this nintendo probably thought it would be ok to quickly implement a cheap dpad instead of working in the high quality snes dpad.
Hey, can anyone confirm if the Xenoblade controller still has the secret message under the right analog stick?
Three years late but yes, it has it. I recently disassembled mine to clean the sticks.
@@hasanmk1890 I always knew I could count on you
It's a shame they don't make Super Mario character pro controllers LOL! Liked!
JesseAndMike
Fuck you
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MIGAMER 6
Hey I was joking I just want to see his reaction
JesseAndMike ikr
They do. They’re just wired and don’t have gyro tho.
Every week I’m reminded why I love this damn channel! Keep up the good work!
Did you happen to notice if they changed the contact points on the board?
The way I ‘fixed’ my pro controller Dpad was to put adhesive tape over the inside half of all the contacts, so I wonder if they did something with that
Awesome to know the little detail that’s in the Xenoblade 2 pro controller. Never played a Xenoblade game before so Xenoblade 2 is my first one playing. Ordered the Special edition and pro controller just to collect them. Maybe I’ll look into the dpad difference when my Xenoblade 2 controller comes in on Monday since GameStop didn’t deliver it day 1 :/ even when paid for day 1 shipping.
I'll wait for the eventual Metroid Prime Pro controller ;)
Tavo7874 I come from the future with bad news. Going to be another 2-3 years. :/
Keep waiting
you should get a caliper and actually measure the width of both of them and see if there is a difference
But that would have taken effort and professionalism.
My 2 Nintendo Switch Pro controllers has about 300 hours on them now. They are both having the same issues, the left analog stick doesn't stay in the "north" position. It will come back towards the center on its own. Kind of sucks considering how expensive these are, hopefully it's not a wide spread issue. Let me know if you guys have experienced issues with you Pro controllers, in the comments. Thanks! ruclips.net/video/dIda5leEMzU/видео.html
You know it's great to hear this just after ordering a regular pro-controller a week ago
Anjo Banjo cancel and get these instead
The best D-pad IMO is the one on the Wii classic controller. 2nd place is the 3ds d-pad
Gamesforus I really like the one on the original DS. The way it clicked when pressed was so satisfying.
So far I say my xbox x is the best D pad I've ever used but to be fair I've yet to try the switch pro pad
Gamesforus wii classic controller works okn switch.
You ever used a model 2 sega saturn dpad?
Very mush.
Dude, you should’ve done a demo on the test input screen! I’m guessing it still registers up when pressing right or left?
Honestly I have never had a problem with the D-pad on the pro controller
My only problem with it is sometimes when I'm playing Zelda and I wanna change my shields/arrows with the left direction, it for some reason opens up the runes menu (which is opened with the up direction)
Some people notice little things and those little things can be a nuisance depending on the person I guess.
Bob bobinson the problem for me which is probably just my specific controller, is i have to press firm on the right bumper to get it to work. If I don’t put constant pressure(not a lot of pressure it’s not like I have to press my hardest to get it to work lol), it will depress the button even though I have the button pressed. So like for Zelda, if I don’t keep firm pressure on the right bumper when I’m trying to throw a weapon, he’ll just immediately throw the weapon when I don’t want him to or he’ll put the weapon back down if I don’t press it firm enough right at the beginning. The dpad problem that +Trovão has is the same on mine as well. Presses up sometimes
I had a problem with the R button not responding when pressed lightly, and my friend has that problem too. Do any of you have it?
Bob bobinson I have problem with it mostly with zelda
I Love the commitment! To pick apart both Pro Controllers, just so that we can check out why the xenoblade 2 version seem better. Love it.
I hope to buy the Xenoblade controller soon. Once I have more money maybe then.
I really want to buy a Pro Controller, but have the newer models of the regular version had their D pads fixed yet?
Torrie Garvin i ask the same question...
I'm curious myself, I'm always trying to look for research each month if newer production models have silently fixed the issue, I'm still stumped on if they did or not... here and there I read comments stating that they have, but you gamble on if the pro controller you purchase IS a new model or something they held in storage for months.. it's a gamble..
thanks been looking for more info on this nice to see the teardown
Normal grey Pro Controllers (not special or limited editions) with a product code that ends in "C" have the better d-pad (in North America at least).
I bought a regular pro controller ( like 2 weeks ago) after beating the first level of Doom. Yes, that game made me run out and buy the controller and testing it out..It's flawless I've had no problems using it in street fighter or Tetris. I think Nintendo fixed it and kept quiet about it. Only the early adopters have complained about the Original pro controller.
Super King 64 Same here in march 2018 it's the best controller ever
thats not true just purchased mine and im having the same issue on killer instinct when i press left my character wants to jump its so fucking annoying
does it cost more? everywhere i've seen online it costs at least $20 more than the normal controller
God I love the spawn wave intro music
pictures would help to show finer details, great video as always!
Nice video man. Love the music, reminds me of System Shock 2
The game so far that the D-pad has given me the most trouble with is Sonic Mania on the Blue Sphere minigames. there were so many times when I pressed up but instead Sonic would turn left or right.
when did you buy it?
Simple way to answer if this is true or a rumor: Can you press all 4 directional inputs into the controller like you can on the current pro controller? Yes or no?
playing strretfighter on the pro controller is a nightmare, maybe ill grab this xen0
I already have 2(regular and Splatoon). Seeing the back of the Xenoblade one, I think I need a 3rd.
I can confirm it feels better
Correction! It is NOT a Xenoblade 2 pro controller change, it is all of the pro controllers that have the change, it is a stealth change though because the older models have to sell through but all of the new pro controllers released will have the improvement.
Great video as always 👍🏾
The D-Pad input issue is not fixed in XC2 Pro Controller.
Darío Muñoz Pino wait is not how
So who made the beat?
Music is kind of sick!
Yeah the Xenoblade Controller is 107 dollars here in sweden....
Stefan Andreasson Get it from Amazon Germany with free shipping. I am doing the same in Finland. Everything here is unreasonably expensive but Amazon is great with free shipping. You can basically get new Switch games for 45-50€ from Amazon. On Black Friday, I got Splatoon 2, ARMS and Mario Rabbids for 120€.
Yeah, it costs even more in Norway
+Fffalckk K - in Norway it makes sense though, since you have very high taxes on luxury goods - mainly because you're absolutely filthy rich! Everything needs to be more expensive when you make exponentially more than all of your neighbouring countries - lol! This is why us poor Swedes come to work in your factories and build your houses - we're essentially the Nordic Polish! But man that money feels gooouuudddd when we get home...! : D
You've built a fantastic country, so good that it doesn't matter if Nintendo-stuff is expensive - rejoice in that instead! = )
Though it seems like pro controllers get a higher peice increase oversees than joycons.
I can buy it right now at best buy for $75 here in the U.S. That sucks bruh.
Great video! Thanks for sharing!
Haven't had any issues with my d pad yet. Xenoblade one is on the way so interesting to see if I can notice a difference.
The SNES D-pad is shaped the way it is because the area around it is concave by about a millimeter, and the Pro Controllers are convex. The molding around the D-pad, and the thickness of the rubber stoppers/metal contacts makes all the difference with these.
I LOVE SPAWN WAVE
*Looking at my Xenoblade on my desk*
You're awesome
xenoblade chronicles 2 edition is my favorite
This my favorite edition
*waves hand* “these are not the d-pads you are looking for.”
WHAT! They just put a longer spike on the middle? I aways cut a little of that thing to increasy considerably the accuracy of many controllers, including 3DSs.
The real thing that ups the accuracy of this controllers are the CONDUCTIVE RUBBER, they need to be closer to the PCB to actually be more precise.
Thank you for this. Now I won't waste money.
Quality video Jon(SW) good stuff man. The New Xenoblade Chronicles 2 Pro-Con's D-Pad felt different right out of the box but it is a small approvement and hopefully a step closer too getting that godlike SNES D-Pad 👍. If you haven't got a Pro-Con yet and you can find a Xeno 2 Pro-Con pick it up but don't worry if you have the original Pro-Con guys cuz the D-Pad is minimally better and for some there is zero differences.
I bought the Xenoblade controller 2 years ago and right now it has D-pad problem which is why I'm here looking for a way to fix
I'm usually picky with dpads, and I never personally had problems with the one on the pro controller, a bit surprised with how many people don't like it. I mean it is by no means the best one I've used but I've never in well over 1000 hours on the system pressed the wrong direction.
go use your input tester in the switch settings. there are phantom inputs during rapid clicks. glad you haven't noticed yet, but its universal due to a design flaw. its not about the "feel"
Gcrab71989 Same here, I guess some people are heavy handed on the dpad, I just press the edge of the direction and even quick moments I am precise with the pressing of the dpad that issue is non existent. I also done the test myself and no phantom inputs.
Chadi Affan It's not about where you press, but what games you play. Games that require fast inputs and rocking (like Puyo Puyo Tetris or Street Fighter) will register misfires.
Glad that I got my Xenoblade Chronicles 2 Pro Controller imported in when I did. Ran over $100 USD but worth every penny. Just as comfortable as my blue Dualshock 4 that I use on PC via it's built-in Bluetooth. Haven't tried the Pro Controller on PC yet so that does make me curious to try that. (Edit: I tested it out on PC while playing Tekken 7 and it does work quite well on my end.)
NES d-pad is indeed the best.
Nesmaniac I agree, amazing how good the d-pad was on the NES... the quality of the NES controller must’ve been also a factor to it’s success:)
No it isn't.
Either they fixed the D-Pads in the newer models of the regular pro controller, or I just got lucky with mine. As a hardcore gamer of 20+ years who is more into NES and SNES than most modern titles, my pro controller's D-Pad functions great. No extra inputs in the menu, and zero problems playing Puyo Puyo or Street Fighter.
I know it may be hard to believe, but there must be some pro controllers that are better, given all the complaints I've heard about it. That being said, I'd still recommend waiting until they issue a fix, as they are too expensive to be playing the D-Pad lottery. Good luck to those who try to get a good one!
I am growing more and more weary if they will issue a public "fix" or even a new marketable version of the pro controller that might have fixed the D-pad issue.. if it's true that they are silently fixing the issue then you just have to be lucky and get a newer production version rather than something a seller has been holding in storage for months... it's very unfortunate I'm buying a switch soon but I want a damn pro controller because I feel I might need it... that being said I'm going to try out the joycons by themselves first..
Didn’t they do that with the splatoon pro controller ?
This was kind of a waste of time. Why would you just open it up but not also test it using the Button Tester inside the settings menu of the switch? If that that slight different in length of the peg solves the multiple unintended button presses, then this is in fact a HUGE upgrade despite only being a small plastic upgrade physically.
Paterson Driver he said he can confirm that the rumors were true. He used ut and knows its better. Tge point if thus was ti see why it was better not ti see if it was better.
agree 100%. thats what i assumed was gonna happen here. I dont care if it LOOKS different. I care if the phantom presses actually go away.
I'd buy it but I don't like the xenoblade colors...
MasterKillua personally I think the colours are what make the controller better than the original pro controller
Axvender thanks for contributing nothing to the conversation.
Axvender Nice reply
I like both id rather have the og if they were equal but they are not
Axvender it's awesome
At some point I was fixing up a gameboy color and I got new buttons from some website. I noticed weird things happening on Link’s Awakening DX, and I figured out the pivot on the new dpad was shorter than the original pivot. This was allowing for both right and left to be pressed at the same time. The height difference was minuscule, yet it was there. Problem stopped when I put the original dpad back in. So something similar may be happening here?
There's A LOT of specs affecting Dpad ergonomics, I think the way the plastic has to work around the silicone shape also affects it greatly, what you've stated isn't all wrong though. I think the HUGE bare contacts on the board is part of the problem too.
I have been on the fence about the game, but I got the controller because I need one and I like the colours. I am glad I waited, tbh
Apparently the home buttons on the joy con have a blue LED light built in to it but so far it'll only turn on when Nintendo releases an update or you manually hack it
Then again, it doesn't look an upgrade worth the almost $20 more that the Xenoblade 2 controller costs. I got a normal Pro controller and a Hori stand for the price instead.
The Xenoblade Pro Controller is over $100 at Amazon but I also found Splatoon Pro Controller for about $85. and I was wondering if that D-Pad is a little better also? I really want a Pro Controller for motion control and NFC while having a decent D-Pad for a price that's not going to be $100 or more.
The splatoon dpad was better than the standard one I got a while before
hi, instead of the d pad, I think the left stick of the pro controller have a more serious issue... I heard a lot of people including me, that after hundred hour use of pro controller, the left stick will be no longer working well.
Yurie the Genius They should make the L and R sticks metals so they don't get scratched up.
does that original snes controller d-pad fit and/or work with the rest of the switch pro controller innards?
this could explain why I was a fricken pro with combo moves and mortal kombat fatalities in the snes days but pale in comparison on modern consoles. I remember rolling the shite out of that snes dpad for all kinds of left/down/right/up/right/right/ style shenanigans
The shop where I bought Switch and a controller has send the Xenoblade themed one by accident, instead of regular one. I guess it's a happy little accident
Dude awesome video!!! Like the xenoblade pro controller
Outside the lackluster dpad my pro controller is the most pointless purchase i made for my switch.
Most channels and people recommend one but really you dont need it.
Joy cons seperate is the prefered way to play for me in almost all games and i dont need to carry a extra controller.
SNES D-pad is absolute perfection.
I like the green Ash Greninja water shuriken design on the controller too😆😂😂
Now I wanna order that Xenoblade 2 controller’s D-Pad separately, somehow.
There’s that image on imgur that shows the poles or “spike” could’ve saved you a ton of time disassembling them haha
Hearing that it costs $75 for you hurts. Here in Canada, it costs $100 ($110 with tax)
actually $80 CAD before tax
Canadians get it hard man
PlatinumTeabag I got mine for 59.99 new in Canada at a videogame store
does the xenoblade one have the secret message?
Hopefully they'll just tweak the moldings in general to set all future Pro Controllers to be the same.
Is there a serial number difference with this new controller? Do you think there'll be a rollout of this, what looks like slightly revised, controller?
The spawn wave theme music reminds me of metroid music or like axiom verge 👌
What about the Splatoon 2 Pro Controller? Have you compare that one as well?
Can confirm issues with e dpad on the reg pro controller. Never noticed until playing Xenoblade, ironically. Often when trying to "taunt" an enemy, which you do with down on the dpad, you trigger the full screen controller hint screen. Its infuriating, especially since you have just initiated combat. Picked up the Xenoblade controller last night after work. Ugh.
I would like to see a comparison it to the DIY joycon shell.
the x,y,a,b buttons need to be improved. the clicking feels to soft and flimsy at times. I much prefer the push on the joy cons.
Bill Bronson the abxy buttons on the joy cons are ok but it hurts my thumb a bit after holding down Y in mario kart for a long time. I like the pro controller buttons better.
Noah pro controller I didn't have problems a
With the joycons I did dude quit complaining about controllers dude
Bill Bronson and the pro controller is way comfortable than the joycon grip
Hmmm. I wonder if anyone sells D-Pads that would fit in the pro controller on eBay. Then we could just swap them out. Might be worth looking into.
I Use skins from Decalgirl so it having that design is pointless to me..
Look it either works as intended or it doesnt. What you're trying to say is that it doesn't, correct?
Whenever so use the dpad on the regular controller, I'll hit a direction and it will correspond as a completely different direction in the game. Like I'll hit up, and in the game it acts like I hit down
CGG Yep that's pretty normal with this crappy dpad.
I wonder if they'll actually ever fix it? or release some sort or rebranded controller with this issue kept in mind and fixed.... maybe one day... and if they start silently fixing the issue, that means you just have to be lucky and hope to get a newer revision... that would be a gamble.. either way it's just a big headache.
Faine212 There are other things they could improve from the pro controller besides just the dpad. For example metal control sticks that don't get scratched up is one thing. It would be best for them to make a better, more expensive version of the pro controller and sell that as a completely different product.
and at more than 70$ lol... won't sell well... the regular is already 70$, only a really niche market will get a pro super or pro PLUS at 100$
dude things degrade over time, it's fine, all xbox controllers are plastic too, so?... no.. the real issue is the Dpad dude, because it doesn't let you control the game functionally.. then what's the point of a controller if not to control all your favorite games properly?
I'm getting a pro controller for Christmas, luckily I'm use to playing 2D games with the cotrols stick, I use the control stick when I play Sonic mania.
In theory, if I could find the d-pad for the xenon lace controller (say alibaba), could using it to replace the one on the pro controller improve it's performance?
And this is the difference between being squid bagged, or squid bagging your opponent. #SPLATOON
Love ur music while u take apart the pros
2:07 if you want to skip the opening
honestly, my splatoon and xenoblade pro controllers both register the wrong direction often. for instance, in rocket league i'll press the up direction to pull up 4 chat comments but it'll register that i pushed left. sometimes i end up saying the wrong thing because of this. i will say it feels different, and i can even go as far as saying the action feels better on the xenoblade controller, but the accuracy seems worse to me, at least with mine. maybe i got a lemon. odd that the same thing happens with my other LE pro controller, tho...
People need something to complain about otherwise , a product might get praise
there are people who buy controllers also for the Dpad not just everything else, so to THOSE people this issue poses a problem since the Dpad is just not functional, same as if the sticks were trash and kept registering the wrong direction you were moving... a controller is designed to control the game... that's the number one thing it should do...