How GOOD was Omastar ACTUALLY? - History of Omastar in Competitive Pokemon (Gens 1-7)

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  • @Xelianow
    @Xelianow 3 года назад +436

    125 defense, low speed, water typing and access to spikes, stealth rock AND toxic spikes.
    Omastar: Speedy offense it is!

    • @Jacobjinglepocket
      @Jacobjinglepocket 3 года назад +29

      That's what weaknesses to Fighting and Ground types will do to you.

    • @ActualTrash8
      @ActualTrash8 2 года назад +14

      @@Jacobjinglepocket and 4x grass

    • @ugandaknuckles850
      @ugandaknuckles850 2 года назад +12

      Nah shell smash is usually put on low speed high defense pokemons

    • @gregorymirabella1423
      @gregorymirabella1423 2 года назад +9

      @@ugandaknuckles850 yeah, but it didn't have that until gen 5.

    • @gregorymirabella1423
      @gregorymirabella1423 2 года назад +1

      because rock type fucking sucks.

  • @DGSnowolf
    @DGSnowolf 4 года назад +1865

    Pokedex: Its heavy shell allowed it to reach only nearby food. This could be the reason it is extinct.
    Game: SWIFT SWIM!

    • @KAPTAINmORGANnWo4eva
      @KAPTAINmORGANnWo4eva 4 года назад +212

      It could have been a burst speed "sprinter" rather than an endurance "runner" that would mean it's mostly inert in the wild but fast in battles since if they were in real time they'd be over pretty fast.

    • @DGSnowolf
      @DGSnowolf 4 года назад +136

      @@KAPTAINmORGANnWo4eva nice. I like it. Like Spiders arent quick runners but the speed at which they can turn around and grab is pretty much instant.

    • @LunarSage69
      @LunarSage69 4 года назад +34

      Maybe it goes fast but it shell quickly tires it out making it have to eat much of the hard to obtain food

    • @mrtable2861
      @mrtable2861 4 года назад +50

      Could be worst. They could've given swift swim to a pokemon with barely 2 points more speed than Snorlax like Carracosta.
      ...oh wait.

    • @Kevin-wx7wu
      @Kevin-wx7wu 4 года назад +4

      Maybe it never rained their crib

  • @sarasaland4709
    @sarasaland4709 4 года назад +1056

    Even if it wasn’t the best in competitive, it was a truly impeccable dancer.

    • @scruffmutt
      @scruffmutt 4 года назад +36

      I guess that’s why it was paired with Ludicolo in rain teams 💃🌧

    • @tylergianchetta3946
      @tylergianchetta3946 4 года назад +5

      I may be giving too much credit assuming this is the most clever spongebob reference ever made

    • @Akyure
      @Akyure 4 года назад +3

      @@tylergianchetta3946 i dont get it. Is it for like Patrick Star when he wore lingerie? During the movie?

    • @tylergianchetta3946
      @tylergianchetta3946 4 года назад +4

      Akyure Animations it’s squidward dancing in his talent contest

    • @Akyure
      @Akyure 4 года назад

      @@tylergianchetta3946 That makes more sense

  • @shyguysquad5231
    @shyguysquad5231 4 года назад +1511

    Omastar: I have a shell smash up. I am inevitable
    Leaves and twigs: allow us to introduce ourselves

  • @LakituAl
    @LakituAl 4 года назад +1155

    By virtue of its Gen 1 sprite, it was top tier.

    • @pokemaniacmasterx3132
      @pokemaniacmasterx3132 4 года назад +50

      Helix's Dance(?).

    • @xdsmile5359
      @xdsmile5359 4 года назад +68

      It had one of the best gen 1 sprites and thats saying allot

    • @DJBlackNGold
      @DJBlackNGold 4 года назад +83

      Too fabulous for the lower tiers.

    • @3.2187_Kilometres
      @3.2187_Kilometres 4 года назад +13

      @@xdsmile5359 it's really not saying a lot because most gen 1 sprites were trash until pokemon yellow and even then it took them until gen 2 to get the main look of the pokemon sprites down. Only a few pokemon sprites from gen 1 fit the pokemon style and Omastar just so happens to be one of them.

    • @fionamacisaac5820
      @fionamacisaac5820 4 года назад +11

      Golbats r/b sprite gives it a run for its money

  • @mastermindcow6210
    @mastermindcow6210 4 года назад +577

    Fun fact:
    The shells of real life nautilus (and by extension ammonites, which Omanyte and Omastar are based on) have many gas-filled chambers that reduce the weight of the shell, and even allow the creatures to control their buoyancy.

    • @JB-bc2ry
      @JB-bc2ry 4 года назад +22

      IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW :O

    • @_V.Va_
      @_V.Va_ 4 года назад +13

      I guess it was handy for Omastar until its shell got really heavy.

    • @chuyrenteria6252
      @chuyrenteria6252 4 года назад +2

      Already knew that, as I looked over ammonites.

    • @DJBlackNGold
      @DJBlackNGold 4 года назад

      Neat!

    • @MrMarinus18
      @MrMarinus18 4 года назад +9

      All sea creatures that swim normally have that. After all if you are not neutrally buoyant you are constantly struggling to swim upwards which expends a lot of energy. Fishes have a floatation bladder in them.

  • @pepeknight
    @pepeknight 4 года назад +418

    The biggest surprise I had about Omastar was that it was a Swift Swimmer. I fondly remember the time I swept with Shell Smash boosted Swift Swim Omastar under Rain in Gen 5 OU when it was legal and it was glorious. Truly a time where Omastar was worthy of the title Lord.
    To be honest I think Gen 5 would have been better if the weather abilities were banned. DrizzleSwim was banned BEFORE Darkrai and Shaymin Sky if I remember.

    • @boryontotheleader2328
      @boryontotheleader2328 4 года назад +30

      Shouldn't had been banned at all

    • @RandalfElVikingo
      @RandalfElVikingo 4 года назад

      Weak armor is better in the long run.

    • @PkmnLegendMaster
      @PkmnLegendMaster 4 года назад +30

      @@RandalfElVikingo Not really. Weak armor requires taking hits and each time you do your defense falls more. It's not a great ability most of the time and is a gimmick at best.
      For example: Skarmory Max HP Defense getting hit by rockslide
      252 Atk Terrakion Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Skarmory: 70-84 (20.9 - 25.1%)
      252 Atk Terrakion Close Combat vs. - 1 252 HP / 252+ Def Skarmory: 166-196 (49.7 - 58.6%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO
      One defense drop makes it go from a 4HKO to a 2HKO and that's a rather weak move and we're talking a _fully_ invested defensive titan.
      A -1 defense pokemon isn't going to survive another hit unless it's heavily invested as just demonstrated.

    • @RandalfElVikingo
      @RandalfElVikingo 4 года назад +1

      @@PkmnLegendMaster It works better in Gen 5 (the time I was using it in Smogon) , but it only works late game. Weak Armor+Shell Armor+ Focus Sash and the moves showed in the video is good coverage.
      You don't use a sweeper to tank hits, you use it to faint.

    • @PkmnLegendMaster
      @PkmnLegendMaster 4 года назад +8

      @@RandalfElVikingo In the long Run Shell Smash does everything Weak armor does and doesn't require getting hit. I've run the strategy you're suggesting, ran it in Gen 5 and while it can work, it's far too much of a gimmick to be better than swift swim.

  • @lukastanovic8371
    @lukastanovic8371 4 года назад +65

    “Its sheer power was too much for even Ferrothorn to handle”
    If you can make the bane of Gen 5 OU shiver in fear as a Pokemon with 4x weakness to Grass with your water type moves, you know you’re a dangerous force to be taken seriously.

    • @belimvasim143
      @belimvasim143 3 года назад +3

      Sorry i am late but
      1.5 boost from rain
      2+ boost from SHELL SMASH
      And with 160 power move afcource it's so much for anything to handle
      If you add all boostes into hydro pump
      1.5+2
      Then it becomes 480 bp move resisted 2x still it's a 240 bp move

    • @flamingrubys11
      @flamingrubys11 2 года назад +1

      @@belimvasim143 dont forget spatk values

  • @LutraEnHydris
    @LutraEnHydris 4 года назад +63

    Gen 2 Stats and Onward:
    HP:70
    Attack:60
    Def:125
    Sp Attack: 115
    Sp Def: 70
    Speed: 55

  • @memelivesmatter8977
    @memelivesmatter8977 4 года назад +916

    Omaster would have been top tier if it had used skillshare.

    • @TheAztecWarrior100
      @TheAztecWarrior100 4 года назад +7

      Dead

    • @mr.gulaschkanone5087
      @mr.gulaschkanone5087 4 года назад +23

      Which enraged his father, who punished him surverely (eventually, someone will get this joke)

    • @squedaroonie
      @squedaroonie 4 года назад +3

      @@mr.gulaschkanone5087 an oversimplified video? I'm impressed!

    • @TheMuslimMan1337
      @TheMuslimMan1337 4 года назад

      @@mr.gulaschkanone5087 Sam' ONella reference?

    • @GroundBack
      @GroundBack 4 года назад +3

      @@mr.gulaschkanone5087 But Mr. Gulaschkanone Omastar didn't enrage his father, the Vikings did

  • @DBZMacky
    @DBZMacky 4 года назад +422

    *ALL HAIL LORD HELIX*

  • @FalcoVille
    @FalcoVille 4 года назад +625

    Insert Lord Helix joke here.

  • @weebvile7965
    @weebvile7965 4 года назад +288

    Omastar's Gen 1 sprite looks absolutely
    F A B U L O U S

  • @kanibelazy0585
    @kanibelazy0585 4 года назад +79

    10:23
    "Mom said its my turn to play pokemon"

  • @c.b.t.c802
    @c.b.t.c802 4 года назад +472

    I just realized that using skillshare is like EV training yourself

    • @MISTAKEWASMADE4live
      @MISTAKEWASMADE4live 4 года назад +17

      Stfu 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @gameinsane4718
      @gameinsane4718 4 года назад +5

      I guess

    • @DrowsyLemon
      @DrowsyLemon 4 года назад +27

      Yeah well I have really bad base stats and IVs so honestly I'm not worth the hassle

    • @c.b.t.c802
      @c.b.t.c802 4 года назад +27

      @@DrowsyLemon what about your nature I bet your adamant at least

    • @BigRedLeg
      @BigRedLeg 4 года назад +10

      JC-JC Station hes a special attacker tho

  • @Quix0tic707
    @Quix0tic707 3 года назад +62

    Finally Sword and Shield…
    Omastar missed the first stages of Sword and Shield due to Dexit, but came back once the Crown Tundra rolled in. Low Speed and special bulk coupled with common weaknesses landed it in PU once again. There, however, it was an absolute monster. Primeape didn’t survive Dexit, so Omastar now outrun just about everything after Shell Smash, while Gastrodon was making itself nice and comfortable in NU, so Omastar’s main counter was gone too. While PU did have bulky Water types like Vaporeon and Lanturn, they would fold to its new toy: Meteor Beam, a 120 base power Special Rock type move that also boosted Omastar’s Special Attack by one stage. A +3 Meteor Beam blew straight through would be checks like the aforementioned Vaporeon and Lanturn, as well as Roserade, Druddigon and would just vaporise anything that didn’t resist it. Grabbing a Shell Smash was very simple, with Pokemon like Kangaskhan and Talonflame providing ample set up opportunities. Meteor Beam combined with Weak Armor meant it didn’t even always need to set up Shell Smash - it could come in on a physical attack, get the Speed boost, and use Meteor Beam to boost its Special Attack. It could still easily shred offensive teams at +1. Stopping it was a nightmare - the only priority move that OHKOed it was Life Orb Toxicroak’s Vacuum Wave, Ice Beam smashed all Grass types bar the rare Ferroseed, and the bulky Water types that used to give it trouble got blown up by Meteor Beam. It got banned alongside fellow Water types Kingler and Clawitzer, and hasn’t managed to replicate its success in NU yet. Still, being too strong for a tier is already a big win for lord helix.
    Some players tried to make Omastar work in VGC, with the Weakness Policy Dynamax trick, combined with Weak Armour for a Speed boost. But…Coalossal does that way better, as itisn’t weak to Rillaboom and Regieleki, has its own G Max move and the boost from Steam Engine gives it enough Speed to outrun Regieleki after a boost.

    • @yeet8036
      @yeet8036 2 года назад +9

      I read everything with Kellen voice and it's amazing

    • @halberd-3291
      @halberd-3291 2 года назад +6

      Damn this was really well done. Props.

  • @meowistforlife
    @meowistforlife 4 года назад +240

    Um, Gen II post special split analysis is missing

    • @tomthetank9044
      @tomthetank9044 4 года назад +43

      I was wondering if I'd ever see how that 115 special would be split

    • @snakeywakey3893
      @snakeywakey3893 4 года назад +9

      I'm pretty sure it got shafted by the special split. It was the opposite of Hitmonchan/Hitmonlee essentially.

    • @snakeywakey3893
      @snakeywakey3893 4 года назад +6

      @@XCodes Not as bad as I thought it would be. I was expecting a base 55. 70 is ok until later gens where it simply isn't enough to keep up with the power creep.

    • @Psycho3418
      @Psycho3418 4 года назад +5

      @@snakeywakey3893 Yeah 70 sp.def isn't awful but it's pretty mediocre, especially when it only has 70 hp.

  • @PapaTaurean
    @PapaTaurean 4 года назад +129

    Poor Lord Helix. Rock has too many weaknesses for a "defensive" type. That's it's and many other Rock types biggest problems

    • @richardalvarez5488
      @richardalvarez5488 4 года назад +20

      Eh omastar mostly suffered from swift swim ban than anything. He was pretty common on gen 5 Ubers tho:)
      Never needed that def typing when you smash face😂

    • @erictalaveramartinez4160
      @erictalaveramartinez4160 4 года назад +1

      Rock being weak to grass never made much sense to me.

    • @13thKingMu
      @13thKingMu 4 года назад +2

      @@erictalaveramartinez4160 i guess grass after being crushed by a real life rock but it still alive

    • @chaosbreaker657
      @chaosbreaker657 4 года назад +8

      Initially, Rock types have plenty of weaknesses but compensates for having really high Defense in Gen 1. Just look at the Rock types of that generation: Rhydon, Golem, Omastar and Onix.
      Then Gen 2 introduced the Steel type, and Rock was immediately outclassed, as Steel types not only pack high Defense, but also offers more resistances to the table. The only defensive advantage of Rock was a resistance to Fire type attacks.

    • @gingermcgingin1733
      @gingermcgingin1733 4 года назад +2

      @@erictalaveramartinez4160 Plants can erode rocks.

  • @succhead6884
    @succhead6884 4 года назад +28

    Omastar: I am a holy god.
    Smogon Tiering System: I’m going to have to stop you right there.

  • @BobMarley-vj3ol
    @BobMarley-vj3ol 4 года назад +8

    I will always have a soft spot in my heart for Omastar. He was my first Pokemon card. Seeing things like this brings back memories.

  • @briankim1098
    @briankim1098 4 года назад +193

    Can I offer an alternative title? “How PRAISEWORTHY was Lord Helix actually?”

    • @wootmasterzorsx
      @wootmasterzorsx 4 года назад +1

      With how the video shows it... Less so as time goes on.

    • @GreatDG
      @GreatDG 2 года назад +2

      Who

    • @GreatDG
      @GreatDG 2 года назад +2

      Asked

  • @justas423
    @justas423 4 года назад +17

    The meme with the power to back it up. That's pretty rare.

  • @flightnesssnowbirb8318
    @flightnesssnowbirb8318 4 года назад +51

    "It doesn't possess its counterpart Kabutops' menacing appearance"
    *shows image of a Cthulhu monster after hearing a Joe Mama joke*

  • @AlphaladZXA
    @AlphaladZXA 4 года назад +154

    Who's ready for spooky ghost type coverage this Halloween?

    • @backstabber765
      @backstabber765 4 года назад +1

      Halloween is satanic..

    • @ShinyTillDawn
      @ShinyTillDawn 4 года назад +1

      ARE YOU WORSHIPPING THE DEVIL? YOU WILL ROT IN HELL FOR THAT!
      lol i would never ask that

    • @Detective_L
      @Detective_L 4 года назад +4

      Ghost Shuckle confirmed?

    • @elfofcourage
      @elfofcourage 4 года назад +1

      Either Dusknoir, Cofagrigus, or Trevenant

    • @AlphaladZXA
      @AlphaladZXA 4 года назад

      @@elfofcourage those results include patreon pick?

  • @Dokurider
    @Dokurider 4 года назад +9

    I'm surprised at how successful the OG fossil pokemon were considering how much they had going against them.

    • @15r52
      @15r52 4 года назад +2

      Yessir

  • @stygiandragon3865
    @stygiandragon3865 3 года назад +11

    6:52 "Only do that 25% of the time."
    Shows Zapdos with 25 health left XD

  • @peacefulflower9468
    @peacefulflower9468 4 года назад +119

    > Talks about Omastar's niche in gen 2 involving toxic first and foremost a lot of the time
    > Doesn't include Toxic in Omastar's OU moveset list
    Really feelin' that disconnect

    • @user-eu8jd2be9j
      @user-eu8jd2be9j 4 года назад +2

      Peaceful flower toxic isn’t as good in gen 1 because you can switch out and the toxic poison becomes regular poison, right?

    • @peacefulflower9468
      @peacefulflower9468 4 года назад +10

      @@user-eu8jd2be9j My comment was about his gen 2 portion, not gen 1. Toxic just wasn't listed during the gen 2 showing of Omastar.

    • @jmash3243
      @jmash3243 4 года назад +4

      Peaceful flower bro not even Sandstorm was listed, I feel like he needs to take a second look at the move list before uploading, there are usually inconsistencies in that part

    • @beta511ee4
      @beta511ee4 4 года назад +6

      Jmash324 To be fair, the sets on Smogon are rarely updated to fit the current meta.

    • @conorlynch007
      @conorlynch007 4 года назад +1

      Literally unwatchable

  • @mupumupu2842
    @mupumupu2842 4 года назад +40

    Welcome back to this episode of the BW weather war casualties; today we got omastar

  • @sigslaughter2709
    @sigslaughter2709 4 года назад +6

    Hey its nice to see you getting sponsors. Alot of work and research go into these videos so its nice to see you getting noticed.

  • @AwesomeHairo
    @AwesomeHairo 4 года назад +9

    16:34 "If the prospect of smashing is too risky, like it always is"

  • @snapclub8751
    @snapclub8751 4 года назад +14

    What is it with the fossils not getting access to Rock Slide until after Gen 2!?

  • @callmeosho7792
    @callmeosho7792 4 года назад +72

    Lord helix:
    Me: throws a salad at it
    Lord helix: *dies*

  • @YourBoyNobody530
    @YourBoyNobody530 4 года назад +25

    One pokemon that should get shell smash is blastoise especially since it has such an awesome move pool containing physical and special stabs along with moves like earth quake, flash cannon, fake out, aura shere, dark pulse, and much much more allowing it to run a great mixed attacking set and have decent bulk while sweeping and not a bad defensive typing to boot

    • @autobotstarscream765
      @autobotstarscream765 4 года назад +6

      I think Blastoise gets denied for lore reasons, its shell is supposed to both be indestructible and a vital part of its body iirc (if its shell broke, would its cannons fall out?).
      However, the announcement of Charizard for SwooSh heralds the likelihood of Venusaur and Blastoise to make it in as well, and with Charizard getting a G-Max, Venusaur and Blastoise are due boosts as well, so there's still hope...

    • @nyoron39
      @nyoron39 4 года назад +6

      @@autobotstarscream765 Blastoise and Venusaur didn't receive two megas, it's perfectly possible for GF to give giga thing to Zard and let the other two unchanged.

    • @autobotstarscream765
      @autobotstarscream765 4 года назад +3

      @@nyoron39 Anything's possible, but that would be kind of gross, *especially* after the aforementioned Mega favoritism.

    • @aprinnyonbreak1290
      @aprinnyonbreak1290 4 года назад +4

      Then we have to imagine naked Blastoise.

    • @roninglastrier1996
      @roninglastrier1996 4 года назад +9

      You got yo wish

  • @gustavorodriguez8702
    @gustavorodriguez8702 4 года назад +27

    THE LORD HELIX IS HERE, BABY!

  • @booyahgenius
    @booyahgenius 3 года назад +9

    The legendary Lord Helix approves this message.

  • @Bluestar899
    @Bluestar899 4 года назад +5

    6:09 - Omastar vs Feraligatr? I see what you did there. Clever reference.

    • @droidixbacon
      @droidixbacon 4 года назад

      And it was an example of a loss

  • @superdubdub
    @superdubdub 4 года назад +5

    Great vid as always. Have you ever thought about doing coverage on NFE? I doubt it would make sense to cover individual Pokemon, but perhaps a video that details the various metas in each Gen? Not sure if there is enough content to do this, but feels like it would be a cool video.

  • @yuvalwh
    @yuvalwh 4 года назад +22

    Time to go through all the comments saying that they chose the helix fossil

    • @skye.xv88
      @skye.xv88 4 года назад +5

      Well I chose the dome fossil most of the time lol

    • @yuvalwh
      @yuvalwh 4 года назад

      @@skye.xv88 nice me too but everyone I know chose helix

    • @nictouris6054
      @nictouris6054 4 года назад

      Praise!

    • @Trinthegay
      @Trinthegay 4 года назад +1

      @@skye.xv88 You sinner

    • @snivyboy168
      @snivyboy168 4 года назад

      I usually choose Dome, 'cause I think Kabutops is awesome.
      R.I.P me.
      (I still like Omastar, though.)

  • @_V.Va_
    @_V.Va_ 4 года назад +42

    Omastar: But I'm nothing without Swift Swim!
    OU: If you're nothing without the Swift Swim, maybe YOU shouldn't have it.

    • @xdsmile5359
      @xdsmile5359 4 года назад +10

      Kabutops: OOF

    • @Ob1tuber
      @Ob1tuber 4 года назад +4

      Ubers: now you can swim fast with us

    • @stetsonherrick8090
      @stetsonherrick8090 3 года назад +2

      Call me simple minded in that I'm not doing competitive play, but *nothing* is wrong with Shell Armor. Omastar is built for decent bulk and having guarantees that *no critical hits* are going to ruin you outright is nice.
      Kind of curious the defensive sets didn't mention using it to stay in long enough to work...
      Weak Armor is way risky, though.

    • @TheBestFormOfHumor
      @TheBestFormOfHumor 3 года назад

      @@stetsonherrick8090 Even though it won't get crit, even regular attacks still murder it.

    • @stetsonherrick8090
      @stetsonherrick8090 3 года назад +1

      @@TheBestFormOfHumor Resistances to Normal, Flying, Poison, Ice and a quad Resist to Fire, along with a 70/125/70 Defensive stat spread?
      That's not completely unworkable alongside no critical hits. Unless you were originally only looking at bulk from a Special side over Physical side?
      If so, is Special assault seriously *THAT* much more lopsidedly broken compared to Physical?

  • @russellwilson4443
    @russellwilson4443 4 года назад +4

    I love how every single Generation 1 Pokemon is in pu for Gen 7 and 8

    • @r3io4mf
      @r3io4mf 3 года назад +2

      non mega: tauros charizard venusaur blastoise vileplume starmie dragonite zapdos moltres machamp mew mewtwo arcanine alakazam golbat magneton gyarados slowbro tentacruel gengar

  • @aroperdope
    @aroperdope 4 года назад +5

    Omastar was/is that type of Pokemon that sometimes had me forgetting that he had a dual weakness...

  • @Dogmagic420
    @Dogmagic420 Год назад +1

    Playing blue version as a kid, omastar was my favorite pokemon to the point of overleveling it before the e4 at the cost of the rest of my team

  • @Stethanaholmes
    @Stethanaholmes 4 года назад +1

    I was actively waiting on thos video all week

  • @newbornkilik
    @newbornkilik 4 года назад +1

    A sponsor, nice!! Glad to watch these and support ya!

  • @molksmorgen9103
    @molksmorgen9103 4 года назад +3

    I'm honestly surprised that you didn't mention Omastar in gen 6 RU at all. It wasn't RU by usage but it had a fairly notable metagame presence doing its old tricks like setting hazards/smashing, especially during the early meta where at least one very prominent team made by New Breed featured it. (Lead Omastar/Life Orb Hitmonlee/Doublade/Dugtrio/Specs Meloetta/Speed Boost Yanmega, the fact some of these pokemon were legal in RU at the time really shows its age lol).
    Even by the end of the metagame it was still considered good enough that it was B rank on the RU viability rankings on the forums.

    • @prplpriestess
      @prplpriestess 4 года назад +1

      former rutl molk btw

    • @molksmorgen9103
      @molksmorgen9103 4 года назад +1

      btw i'm a big fan of your content, especially considering i've played a bunch of these metagames myself!

  • @JToon78
    @JToon78 4 года назад +3

    I noticed that both Kabutops and Omaster are in the same tier in every Generations they're in.

  • @MaigaVidal
    @MaigaVidal 4 года назад +1

    So proud of you’re sponsorship!!!

  • @hologaster
    @hologaster 4 года назад +3

    7:06 the 69% chance of one-hit KO an offensive Jirachi....
    NICE!!!

  • @chrysspeeddraws7617
    @chrysspeeddraws7617 4 года назад +3

    0:34 Gen 1 Omastar striking that pose 💃

  • @DSmittie
    @DSmittie 4 года назад +38

    Here’s a great marketing tactic:
    How good was SkillShare actually
    (Also Crawdaunt pls, I feel like it is an underrated mon due to it having Adaptability)

    • @Graysett
      @Graysett 4 года назад

      Crawdaunt was the cleanup sweeper on my UU Trickroom team back in gen 6. I miss that team.

    • @bengioukulele900
      @bengioukulele900 4 года назад

      Crawdaunt is a fan favourite, everyone knows is niche in OU and people love styling with me.
      But the mon needs a lot of skill due to terrible defense and speed

    • @glaciveestudios6170
      @glaciveestudios6170 4 года назад

      Crawdaunt was never underrated after the physical special split in gen 4. If you thought so, you are wrong. It's even in the UU tier. Many strong Mons are on the same level

    • @glaciveestudios6170
      @glaciveestudios6170 4 года назад

      @@bengioukulele900 It does have Aqua Jet. And mostly trick room teams bring out the potential of it. Just swords Dance and you sweep. Same for Marowak

    • @bengioukulele900
      @bengioukulele900 4 года назад

      @@glaciveestudios6170 today OU can play around crawdaunt aqua get

  • @kyledean1966
    @kyledean1966 4 года назад +5

    0:29
    Omastar’s feed and seed (Formerly extincted)

  • @Oscar_Cortes
    @Oscar_Cortes 4 года назад +14

    Let us consult with the Helix Fossil and see and hear it's infinite wisdom in this video.

    • @MidoriOfTheShuinsen
      @MidoriOfTheShuinsen 2 года назад +1

      "There's a time and place for everything, but not now."

  • @Wolfism
    @Wolfism 4 года назад +4

    Greeeat, Omastar is one of my favourite Water Pokemon😍😍✨ But please, do Raticate next🐀

  • @AtChiaPet
    @AtChiaPet 4 года назад +41

    We must praise Lord Helix for good RNG in future battles

  • @xJC4Rx
    @xJC4Rx 4 года назад +2

    I used Omastar on my Sandstorm triples team.
    He did well.

  • @blazeboy1809
    @blazeboy1809 4 года назад +3

    I don't think it's a coincidence that there is a 69% to KO Jirachi

  • @MissAshley42
    @MissAshley42 4 года назад +3

    I great quite fond of my first Omastar. Such a weird and wiggly little fella.

    • @r3io4mf
      @r3io4mf 3 года назад

      he is god

  • @Marcusjnmc
    @Marcusjnmc 4 года назад +2

    wow, Omastar actually an Ubers & OU monster at times, much unexpected

  • @jwanie366
    @jwanie366 4 года назад +6

    Omastar has always been outclassed by other water types in VGC. RIP

  • @MattDustyParker
    @MattDustyParker 4 года назад +2

    Omastar certainly impresses!

  • @terraSpark902
    @terraSpark902 3 года назад +3

    I've found great success with Omastar in Gen 1 OU. With Hydropump, Blizzard, Rest, and Submission; Chansy is no problem and it's bulk makes it do consistently well against all the other normal types, and great against Wrap or Clamp spam. My Omastar does well against Tauros, Chansy, Snorlax, Dragonight, Charizard, Rydon, Cloyster, and it certainly still gives Alacazam, Slowbro, and Starmie a hard time.

  • @jabronijames
    @jabronijames 4 года назад +6

    Not menacing?! It looks terrifying. Also praise lord helix

  • @flashfrozen7401
    @flashfrozen7401 4 года назад +7

    Omg. Look at that Gen 1 sprite xD

  • @swallow_skyla3602
    @swallow_skyla3602 4 года назад +7

    How CUTE are Omastar's undulating tentacles ACTUALLY

    • @flaviotzn9606
      @flaviotzn9606 3 года назад

      Who is the character of your pfp?

  • @KW-12
    @KW-12 4 года назад +1

    Omastar + Swift Swim + Shell Smash is one of the most agressive sweepers of the game.
    Its only a lowet tier because of the ban of the abilities Drizzle and Swift Swim. So Omastar is amazing with that combo and is one of the best fossil pokemon out there.

    • @gojirarex5138
      @gojirarex5138 2 года назад +1

      I mean they are only banned in gen 5

  • @skellingtron817
    @skellingtron817 4 года назад +1

    when i saw the post with everyone commenting for it i thought you had already done this one

  • @sandrahwu
    @sandrahwu 4 года назад +29

    “As the process of smashing would be too risky.”
    😏

  • @TheColosseum09
    @TheColosseum09 4 года назад +3

    I’ve always enjoyed playing with Omastar when I could fit it onto a rain team. I’d say a decent improvement could have been to potentially give it Warer absorb as a hidden ability although Weak armor was good for certain situations.

  • @SSB_Seal
    @SSB_Seal 4 года назад +5

    "Omastar, how could I not shine?" -Ludwig

  • @LadyLeomon
    @LadyLeomon 4 года назад +5

    All praises be to Lord Helix 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
    Thanks for another great vid False Swipe 💙🐱💙
    P.S How GOOD was Mightyena ACTUALLY? please? I know there are other ‘Yena fans out there! I don’t mind if there are no VGC platings for it at all, I just really want to see my main Darkmon get a turn in the spotlight! Please?

    • @skye.xv88
      @skye.xv88 4 года назад

      If you wanna vote for Mightyena: Search for the community post and vote there. He doesn't check votes in comments anymore, because it's harder. When you go on his channel, slide to the community tab and comment your vote under your post.

    • @LadyLeomon
      @LadyLeomon 4 года назад

      Bálint // Master King I’ve been told that before but on my app it just says basically “use RUclips on your phone for Community Tabs”, I can’t do that so I’m just hoping Mightyena gets chosen eventually 😓😓😓
      Thanks anyway 👍🏻

    • @rosarioesquivel1126
      @rosarioesquivel1126 4 года назад

      OMG, that sounds like a good video

  • @Shenaldrac
    @Shenaldrac 4 года назад +1

    I always chose the Helix Fossil when I was a kid playing the original games. Not because I especially liked Omanyte, but because I was such a *stupid* child that I misread "Dome Fossil" as "Dumb Fossil" and tiny 5 year old me was like "Pssh, I'm not picking no dumb fossil! I'm too smart for that!"

  • @StickMaster500
    @StickMaster500 4 года назад +23

    While Arceus created the Pokemon Universe, Lord Helix created Arceus

    • @blazie42069
      @blazie42069 4 года назад

      So true

    • @MLG35U5
      @MLG35U5 4 года назад

      StickMaster500 facts

    • @Ecchiweeb
      @Ecchiweeb 4 года назад

      Helix is trash and no lord

  • @greghannigan7788
    @greghannigan7788 4 года назад +1

    Next week we got to wait for dusknoir or spiritomb

  • @CylonDorado
    @CylonDorado 4 года назад +1

    Omastar has a cooler looking 3D model then I expected.

  • @lucystarlight4005
    @lucystarlight4005 4 года назад +6

    How good was Conkeldurr Actually?

  • @Mikman360
    @Mikman360 4 года назад +1

    Good video as usual Kellen, but I couldn't help but notice some odd drops in information here that sorta bugged me. For Gen 2, you didn't even post the new stat distribution after the Special split. On top of that, you talked a lot about Sandstorm and Toxic, but they didn't even show up on the popular moves list.
    This isn't meant an attack though, I just want to make sure your videos keep up the good quality they've been in the past. Still loving your content as usual!

  • @TheAwesomeDarkNinja
    @TheAwesomeDarkNinja 4 года назад +5

    I use this baby in modern competitive. Omastar is REALLY underrated honestly.

    • @AyuNico
      @AyuNico 4 года назад +1

      The thing is, it's way too mediocre without huge team support and you need far more self-sufficient Pokemon. Cool that you like him, but there's a reason for him to go unused.

  • @highwaystar3161
    @highwaystar3161 4 года назад +14

    Lord helix is cool and all BUT have you heard of ursaring? How GOOD was ursaring? Pleaaaseeeeeee

    • @ShadowtheYouTuber523
      @ShadowtheYouTuber523 4 года назад

      As much as I would like to see that video, I highly doubt it could ever do anything remarkable in competitive. I still like it but it's nothing special.

  • @rammsteinrulz16
    @rammsteinrulz16 4 года назад +1

    Captions on > Korean (auto-generated) > auto translate (English) > profit
    Come on, FSG, just let me edit your captions for you. I'll do every video for free.

  • @2022irons
    @2022irons 4 года назад +1

    FSG: UNFORTUNATELY, Omastar was extinct in the seventh generation.
    Audience: (booing intensifies)

  • @TheVillainBlackH
    @TheVillainBlackH 4 года назад

    ALL PRAISE LORD HELIX lol thank you for the quality content as usual FalseSwipeGaming I look forward to next weeks

  • @fullstopdice
    @fullstopdice 3 года назад +1

    It got meteor beam in gen8 which helps it as a special rock type stab

  • @pacoramon9468
    @pacoramon9468 Год назад +1

    The special split did him dirty.

  • @ryusoulger9127
    @ryusoulger9127 4 года назад +2

    Can we get a Omastar Mega that just turns back into the Helix Fossil?

  • @blob2557
    @blob2557 4 года назад

    Lord Helix, please bless thee with a video from the great lord False Swipe Gaming, "How GOOD was Lickitung/Lickilicky ACTUALLY? - History of Lickitung/Lickilicky in Competetive Pokemon (Gens 1-7)". I have been a devout follower of the lord for 5 years, and this is my only wish. OH GREAT HELIX, I BEG OF THEE, BLESS THY FOREHEAD WITH THE TENDRIL OF HOPE.

  • @josephrossow8901
    @josephrossow8901 4 года назад +1

    Hey! Love your vids, I watch every week.
    I noticed you didn't show Omastar's stats after the Special split in gen2? So I had to look it up. It looked like it'd be a wall, but I guess the points went into attack. Anyways, just make sure to show the stats on the Gen 2 page too, that'd be nice.
    Oh, and while I'm here asking for things: would you also show a graphic that displays the pokemon's resistances? I'm not that good with remembering the type resistances and it'd help, like, when you show the stats page, to just have a little blurb that says what it's resistant to and what it's weak too.
    Love your channel! Can't wait for the next one. Also, I'm REALLY looking forward to seeing the Rotom episode!

  • @moonjelly5
    @moonjelly5 4 года назад

    For reference, here are the Gen 1 Pokemon who have not been covered yet:
    Butterfree
    Raticate/Alolan Raticate
    Fearow
    Parasect
    Victreebel
    Vileplume
    Venomoth
    Electrode
    Dewgong
    Kingler
    Arbok
    Primeape
    Hitmonchan
    Hitmonlee
    Farfetch'd(/Sirfetch'd)
    Golduck
    Seaking
    Dodrio
    Hypno
    Mr. Mime
    Lickitung/Lickilicky

  • @TheRunescapevidsftw
    @TheRunescapevidsftw 4 года назад

    Hey FSG I really enjoy seeing what pokemon lose or gain special defense during the transition between gens 1 and 2 but I didn't see what Omastar gained/lost in this video. Please add it in future gen 1 videos!

  • @munchrai6396
    @munchrai6396 4 года назад

    Omastar is quite the unique Pokémon because we don't see fast hazard setters that can also hold their own offensively very often. From my own experience, this combination is still quite powerful in Ubers especially on something like Ribombee, with its Bug Fairy Typing hitting almost every super fast Pokémon in the tier outside of Genesect

  • @michaeltran4275
    @michaeltran4275 5 дней назад

    Hot take: Omaster needs to get a Cross-Generation Evolution Stage to get a scale of 500 Base Stats up to around 550 Base Stats in order to finally shine well as an actual deadly competitive Pokémon

  • @NanaKyoto
    @NanaKyoto 4 года назад +6

    Omastar in ubers? I guess the helix prophecy was true.

    • @ralphmarges2965
      @ralphmarges2965 4 года назад

      ARE YOU SERIOSLY THAT STUPID!? ITS FREAKING PU!

    • @kijih6298
      @kijih6298 4 года назад

      @@ralphmarges2965 it is a joke chill

    • @doremysweet860
      @doremysweet860 4 года назад

      @@ralphmarges2965 calm down Kappa

    • @ralphmarges2965
      @ralphmarges2965 4 года назад

      @@doremysweet860 okay but just face it omastar is useless lord helix is nothing but a tidal wave of bullcrap

    • @doremysweet860
      @doremysweet860 4 года назад

      @@ralphmarges2965 dont talk about omastar like this, i had omastar in one of my randomizers, and it was a very good pokemon in my team

  • @averagejosh6699
    @averagejosh6699 4 года назад +2

    At long last, I have found it. Praise Helix.

  • @Red-jq6bw
    @Red-jq6bw 4 года назад +1

    Finaly Omastar! Now Victreebel is the only member of my second Kanto team that is left. And yeah, i love the Helix lord

    • @moonjelly5
      @moonjelly5 4 года назад +1

      Victreebel might be the competitively strongest remaining Gen 1 Pokemon left.

    • @Red-jq6bw
      @Red-jq6bw 4 года назад

      @@moonjelly5 probably, he and Venusaur are the best Poison types in gen 1

  • @adamhall4549
    @adamhall4549 4 года назад

    Amazing video! Keep it up

  • @ruthiehenshallfan99
    @ruthiehenshallfan99 4 года назад +2

    That glorious Gen 1 Sprite, though

  • @calvinmatthews1527
    @calvinmatthews1527 4 года назад +1

    Yeah, Omastar is my favorite fossil pokemon, much better than Kabutops imo. I definitely want them to buff it sometime in the future.

  • @extonjonas6820
    @extonjonas6820 4 года назад

    I swept in NU many time with one Omastar team in gen 7. It was weak armor, focus sash and shell smash. It was really fun

  • @Otori6386
    @Otori6386 4 года назад +1

    How fabulous was Omastar's gen 1 sprite ACTUALLY.

  • @crashfan9997
    @crashfan9997 3 года назад +1

    Omastar is awesome. Sweeped Lance with one.

  • @imagorll
    @imagorll 4 года назад +6

    for mons like these whenever it gets to gen 6, or sometimes 5, every conpliment he gives soinds a bit empty cuz theyre usually at NU/PU