It could have been a burst speed "sprinter" rather than an endurance "runner" that would mean it's mostly inert in the wild but fast in battles since if they were in real time they'd be over pretty fast.
@@xdsmile5359 it's really not saying a lot because most gen 1 sprites were trash until pokemon yellow and even then it took them until gen 2 to get the main look of the pokemon sprites down. Only a few pokemon sprites from gen 1 fit the pokemon style and Omastar just so happens to be one of them.
Fun fact: The shells of real life nautilus (and by extension ammonites, which Omanyte and Omastar are based on) have many gas-filled chambers that reduce the weight of the shell, and even allow the creatures to control their buoyancy.
All sea creatures that swim normally have that. After all if you are not neutrally buoyant you are constantly struggling to swim upwards which expends a lot of energy. Fishes have a floatation bladder in them.
The biggest surprise I had about Omastar was that it was a Swift Swimmer. I fondly remember the time I swept with Shell Smash boosted Swift Swim Omastar under Rain in Gen 5 OU when it was legal and it was glorious. Truly a time where Omastar was worthy of the title Lord. To be honest I think Gen 5 would have been better if the weather abilities were banned. DrizzleSwim was banned BEFORE Darkrai and Shaymin Sky if I remember.
@@RandalfElVikingo Not really. Weak armor requires taking hits and each time you do your defense falls more. It's not a great ability most of the time and is a gimmick at best. For example: Skarmory Max HP Defense getting hit by rockslide 252 Atk Terrakion Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Skarmory: 70-84 (20.9 - 25.1%) 252 Atk Terrakion Close Combat vs. - 1 252 HP / 252+ Def Skarmory: 166-196 (49.7 - 58.6%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO One defense drop makes it go from a 4HKO to a 2HKO and that's a rather weak move and we're talking a _fully_ invested defensive titan. A -1 defense pokemon isn't going to survive another hit unless it's heavily invested as just demonstrated.
@@PkmnLegendMaster It works better in Gen 5 (the time I was using it in Smogon) , but it only works late game. Weak Armor+Shell Armor+ Focus Sash and the moves showed in the video is good coverage. You don't use a sweeper to tank hits, you use it to faint.
@@RandalfElVikingo In the long Run Shell Smash does everything Weak armor does and doesn't require getting hit. I've run the strategy you're suggesting, ran it in Gen 5 and while it can work, it's far too much of a gimmick to be better than swift swim.
“Its sheer power was too much for even Ferrothorn to handle” If you can make the bane of Gen 5 OU shiver in fear as a Pokemon with 4x weakness to Grass with your water type moves, you know you’re a dangerous force to be taken seriously.
Sorry i am late but 1.5 boost from rain 2+ boost from SHELL SMASH And with 160 power move afcource it's so much for anything to handle If you add all boostes into hydro pump 1.5+2 Then it becomes 480 bp move resisted 2x still it's a 240 bp move
Finally Sword and Shield… Omastar missed the first stages of Sword and Shield due to Dexit, but came back once the Crown Tundra rolled in. Low Speed and special bulk coupled with common weaknesses landed it in PU once again. There, however, it was an absolute monster. Primeape didn’t survive Dexit, so Omastar now outrun just about everything after Shell Smash, while Gastrodon was making itself nice and comfortable in NU, so Omastar’s main counter was gone too. While PU did have bulky Water types like Vaporeon and Lanturn, they would fold to its new toy: Meteor Beam, a 120 base power Special Rock type move that also boosted Omastar’s Special Attack by one stage. A +3 Meteor Beam blew straight through would be checks like the aforementioned Vaporeon and Lanturn, as well as Roserade, Druddigon and would just vaporise anything that didn’t resist it. Grabbing a Shell Smash was very simple, with Pokemon like Kangaskhan and Talonflame providing ample set up opportunities. Meteor Beam combined with Weak Armor meant it didn’t even always need to set up Shell Smash - it could come in on a physical attack, get the Speed boost, and use Meteor Beam to boost its Special Attack. It could still easily shred offensive teams at +1. Stopping it was a nightmare - the only priority move that OHKOed it was Life Orb Toxicroak’s Vacuum Wave, Ice Beam smashed all Grass types bar the rare Ferroseed, and the bulky Water types that used to give it trouble got blown up by Meteor Beam. It got banned alongside fellow Water types Kingler and Clawitzer, and hasn’t managed to replicate its success in NU yet. Still, being too strong for a tier is already a big win for lord helix. Some players tried to make Omastar work in VGC, with the Weakness Policy Dynamax trick, combined with Weak Armour for a Speed boost. But…Coalossal does that way better, as itisn’t weak to Rillaboom and Regieleki, has its own G Max move and the boost from Steam Engine gives it enough Speed to outrun Regieleki after a boost.
@@XCodes Not as bad as I thought it would be. I was expecting a base 55. 70 is ok until later gens where it simply isn't enough to keep up with the power creep.
Eh omastar mostly suffered from swift swim ban than anything. He was pretty common on gen 5 Ubers tho:) Never needed that def typing when you smash face😂
Initially, Rock types have plenty of weaknesses but compensates for having really high Defense in Gen 1. Just look at the Rock types of that generation: Rhydon, Golem, Omastar and Onix. Then Gen 2 introduced the Steel type, and Rock was immediately outclassed, as Steel types not only pack high Defense, but also offers more resistances to the table. The only defensive advantage of Rock was a resistance to Fire type attacks.
> Talks about Omastar's niche in gen 2 involving toxic first and foremost a lot of the time > Doesn't include Toxic in Omastar's OU moveset list Really feelin' that disconnect
Peaceful flower bro not even Sandstorm was listed, I feel like he needs to take a second look at the move list before uploading, there are usually inconsistencies in that part
One pokemon that should get shell smash is blastoise especially since it has such an awesome move pool containing physical and special stabs along with moves like earth quake, flash cannon, fake out, aura shere, dark pulse, and much much more allowing it to run a great mixed attacking set and have decent bulk while sweeping and not a bad defensive typing to boot
I think Blastoise gets denied for lore reasons, its shell is supposed to both be indestructible and a vital part of its body iirc (if its shell broke, would its cannons fall out?). However, the announcement of Charizard for SwooSh heralds the likelihood of Venusaur and Blastoise to make it in as well, and with Charizard getting a G-Max, Venusaur and Blastoise are due boosts as well, so there's still hope...
@@autobotstarscream765 Blastoise and Venusaur didn't receive two megas, it's perfectly possible for GF to give giga thing to Zard and let the other two unchanged.
Great vid as always. Have you ever thought about doing coverage on NFE? I doubt it would make sense to cover individual Pokemon, but perhaps a video that details the various metas in each Gen? Not sure if there is enough content to do this, but feels like it would be a cool video.
Call me simple minded in that I'm not doing competitive play, but *nothing* is wrong with Shell Armor. Omastar is built for decent bulk and having guarantees that *no critical hits* are going to ruin you outright is nice. Kind of curious the defensive sets didn't mention using it to stay in long enough to work... Weak Armor is way risky, though.
@@TheBestFormOfHumor Resistances to Normal, Flying, Poison, Ice and a quad Resist to Fire, along with a 70/125/70 Defensive stat spread? That's not completely unworkable alongside no critical hits. Unless you were originally only looking at bulk from a Special side over Physical side? If so, is Special assault seriously *THAT* much more lopsidedly broken compared to Physical?
I'm honestly surprised that you didn't mention Omastar in gen 6 RU at all. It wasn't RU by usage but it had a fairly notable metagame presence doing its old tricks like setting hazards/smashing, especially during the early meta where at least one very prominent team made by New Breed featured it. (Lead Omastar/Life Orb Hitmonlee/Doublade/Dugtrio/Specs Meloetta/Speed Boost Yanmega, the fact some of these pokemon were legal in RU at the time really shows its age lol). Even by the end of the metagame it was still considered good enough that it was B rank on the RU viability rankings on the forums.
Here’s a great marketing tactic: How good was SkillShare actually (Also Crawdaunt pls, I feel like it is an underrated mon due to it having Adaptability)
Crawdaunt is a fan favourite, everyone knows is niche in OU and people love styling with me. But the mon needs a lot of skill due to terrible defense and speed
Crawdaunt was never underrated after the physical special split in gen 4. If you thought so, you are wrong. It's even in the UU tier. Many strong Mons are on the same level
I've found great success with Omastar in Gen 1 OU. With Hydropump, Blizzard, Rest, and Submission; Chansy is no problem and it's bulk makes it do consistently well against all the other normal types, and great against Wrap or Clamp spam. My Omastar does well against Tauros, Chansy, Snorlax, Dragonight, Charizard, Rydon, Cloyster, and it certainly still gives Alacazam, Slowbro, and Starmie a hard time.
Omastar + Swift Swim + Shell Smash is one of the most agressive sweepers of the game. Its only a lowet tier because of the ban of the abilities Drizzle and Swift Swim. So Omastar is amazing with that combo and is one of the best fossil pokemon out there.
I’ve always enjoyed playing with Omastar when I could fit it onto a rain team. I’d say a decent improvement could have been to potentially give it Warer absorb as a hidden ability although Weak armor was good for certain situations.
All praises be to Lord Helix 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 Thanks for another great vid False Swipe 💙🐱💙 P.S How GOOD was Mightyena ACTUALLY? please? I know there are other ‘Yena fans out there! I don’t mind if there are no VGC platings for it at all, I just really want to see my main Darkmon get a turn in the spotlight! Please?
If you wanna vote for Mightyena: Search for the community post and vote there. He doesn't check votes in comments anymore, because it's harder. When you go on his channel, slide to the community tab and comment your vote under your post.
Bálint // Master King I’ve been told that before but on my app it just says basically “use RUclips on your phone for Community Tabs”, I can’t do that so I’m just hoping Mightyena gets chosen eventually 😓😓😓 Thanks anyway 👍🏻
I always chose the Helix Fossil when I was a kid playing the original games. Not because I especially liked Omanyte, but because I was such a *stupid* child that I misread "Dome Fossil" as "Dumb Fossil" and tiny 5 year old me was like "Pssh, I'm not picking no dumb fossil! I'm too smart for that!"
Good video as usual Kellen, but I couldn't help but notice some odd drops in information here that sorta bugged me. For Gen 2, you didn't even post the new stat distribution after the Special split. On top of that, you talked a lot about Sandstorm and Toxic, but they didn't even show up on the popular moves list. This isn't meant an attack though, I just want to make sure your videos keep up the good quality they've been in the past. Still loving your content as usual!
The thing is, it's way too mediocre without huge team support and you need far more self-sufficient Pokemon. Cool that you like him, but there's a reason for him to go unused.
As much as I would like to see that video, I highly doubt it could ever do anything remarkable in competitive. I still like it but it's nothing special.
Captions on > Korean (auto-generated) > auto translate (English) > profit Come on, FSG, just let me edit your captions for you. I'll do every video for free.
Lord Helix, please bless thee with a video from the great lord False Swipe Gaming, "How GOOD was Lickitung/Lickilicky ACTUALLY? - History of Lickitung/Lickilicky in Competetive Pokemon (Gens 1-7)". I have been a devout follower of the lord for 5 years, and this is my only wish. OH GREAT HELIX, I BEG OF THEE, BLESS THY FOREHEAD WITH THE TENDRIL OF HOPE.
Hey! Love your vids, I watch every week. I noticed you didn't show Omastar's stats after the Special split in gen2? So I had to look it up. It looked like it'd be a wall, but I guess the points went into attack. Anyways, just make sure to show the stats on the Gen 2 page too, that'd be nice. Oh, and while I'm here asking for things: would you also show a graphic that displays the pokemon's resistances? I'm not that good with remembering the type resistances and it'd help, like, when you show the stats page, to just have a little blurb that says what it's resistant to and what it's weak too. Love your channel! Can't wait for the next one. Also, I'm REALLY looking forward to seeing the Rotom episode!
For reference, here are the Gen 1 Pokemon who have not been covered yet: Butterfree Raticate/Alolan Raticate Fearow Parasect Victreebel Vileplume Venomoth Electrode Dewgong Kingler Arbok Primeape Hitmonchan Hitmonlee Farfetch'd(/Sirfetch'd) Golduck Seaking Dodrio Hypno Mr. Mime Lickitung/Lickilicky
Hey FSG I really enjoy seeing what pokemon lose or gain special defense during the transition between gens 1 and 2 but I didn't see what Omastar gained/lost in this video. Please add it in future gen 1 videos!
Omastar is quite the unique Pokémon because we don't see fast hazard setters that can also hold their own offensively very often. From my own experience, this combination is still quite powerful in Ubers especially on something like Ribombee, with its Bug Fairy Typing hitting almost every super fast Pokémon in the tier outside of Genesect
Hot take: Omaster needs to get a Cross-Generation Evolution Stage to get a scale of 500 Base Stats up to around 550 Base Stats in order to finally shine well as an actual deadly competitive Pokémon
125 defense, low speed, water typing and access to spikes, stealth rock AND toxic spikes.
Omastar: Speedy offense it is!
That's what weaknesses to Fighting and Ground types will do to you.
@@Jacobjinglepocket and 4x grass
Nah shell smash is usually put on low speed high defense pokemons
@@ugandaknuckles850 yeah, but it didn't have that until gen 5.
because rock type fucking sucks.
Pokedex: Its heavy shell allowed it to reach only nearby food. This could be the reason it is extinct.
Game: SWIFT SWIM!
It could have been a burst speed "sprinter" rather than an endurance "runner" that would mean it's mostly inert in the wild but fast in battles since if they were in real time they'd be over pretty fast.
@@KAPTAINmORGANnWo4eva nice. I like it. Like Spiders arent quick runners but the speed at which they can turn around and grab is pretty much instant.
Maybe it goes fast but it shell quickly tires it out making it have to eat much of the hard to obtain food
Could be worst. They could've given swift swim to a pokemon with barely 2 points more speed than Snorlax like Carracosta.
...oh wait.
Maybe it never rained their crib
Even if it wasn’t the best in competitive, it was a truly impeccable dancer.
I guess that’s why it was paired with Ludicolo in rain teams 💃🌧
I may be giving too much credit assuming this is the most clever spongebob reference ever made
@@tylergianchetta3946 i dont get it. Is it for like Patrick Star when he wore lingerie? During the movie?
Akyure Animations it’s squidward dancing in his talent contest
@@tylergianchetta3946 That makes more sense
Omastar: I have a shell smash up. I am inevitable
Leaves and twigs: allow us to introduce ourselves
Doctor : grass types are not real
*grass types* :
Omastar : *REEE*
It gets icebeam
@Jhhhijh no I think Shy Guy Squad is quoting Thanos.
Lord Helix < Grass Pokémon < Bird Jesus :3
Omastar: FOCUS SASH FTW
By virtue of its Gen 1 sprite, it was top tier.
Helix's Dance(?).
It had one of the best gen 1 sprites and thats saying allot
Too fabulous for the lower tiers.
@@xdsmile5359 it's really not saying a lot because most gen 1 sprites were trash until pokemon yellow and even then it took them until gen 2 to get the main look of the pokemon sprites down. Only a few pokemon sprites from gen 1 fit the pokemon style and Omastar just so happens to be one of them.
Golbats r/b sprite gives it a run for its money
Fun fact:
The shells of real life nautilus (and by extension ammonites, which Omanyte and Omastar are based on) have many gas-filled chambers that reduce the weight of the shell, and even allow the creatures to control their buoyancy.
IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW :O
I guess it was handy for Omastar until its shell got really heavy.
Already knew that, as I looked over ammonites.
Neat!
All sea creatures that swim normally have that. After all if you are not neutrally buoyant you are constantly struggling to swim upwards which expends a lot of energy. Fishes have a floatation bladder in them.
The biggest surprise I had about Omastar was that it was a Swift Swimmer. I fondly remember the time I swept with Shell Smash boosted Swift Swim Omastar under Rain in Gen 5 OU when it was legal and it was glorious. Truly a time where Omastar was worthy of the title Lord.
To be honest I think Gen 5 would have been better if the weather abilities were banned. DrizzleSwim was banned BEFORE Darkrai and Shaymin Sky if I remember.
Shouldn't had been banned at all
Weak armor is better in the long run.
@@RandalfElVikingo Not really. Weak armor requires taking hits and each time you do your defense falls more. It's not a great ability most of the time and is a gimmick at best.
For example: Skarmory Max HP Defense getting hit by rockslide
252 Atk Terrakion Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Skarmory: 70-84 (20.9 - 25.1%)
252 Atk Terrakion Close Combat vs. - 1 252 HP / 252+ Def Skarmory: 166-196 (49.7 - 58.6%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO
One defense drop makes it go from a 4HKO to a 2HKO and that's a rather weak move and we're talking a _fully_ invested defensive titan.
A -1 defense pokemon isn't going to survive another hit unless it's heavily invested as just demonstrated.
@@PkmnLegendMaster It works better in Gen 5 (the time I was using it in Smogon) , but it only works late game. Weak Armor+Shell Armor+ Focus Sash and the moves showed in the video is good coverage.
You don't use a sweeper to tank hits, you use it to faint.
@@RandalfElVikingo In the long Run Shell Smash does everything Weak armor does and doesn't require getting hit. I've run the strategy you're suggesting, ran it in Gen 5 and while it can work, it's far too much of a gimmick to be better than swift swim.
“Its sheer power was too much for even Ferrothorn to handle”
If you can make the bane of Gen 5 OU shiver in fear as a Pokemon with 4x weakness to Grass with your water type moves, you know you’re a dangerous force to be taken seriously.
Sorry i am late but
1.5 boost from rain
2+ boost from SHELL SMASH
And with 160 power move afcource it's so much for anything to handle
If you add all boostes into hydro pump
1.5+2
Then it becomes 480 bp move resisted 2x still it's a 240 bp move
@@belimvasim143 dont forget spatk values
Gen 2 Stats and Onward:
HP:70
Attack:60
Def:125
Sp Attack: 115
Sp Def: 70
Speed: 55
Damn
High defense and good support moves: exists
Omastar:gotta go fast
Omaster would have been top tier if it had used skillshare.
Dead
Which enraged his father, who punished him surverely (eventually, someone will get this joke)
@@mr.gulaschkanone5087 an oversimplified video? I'm impressed!
@@mr.gulaschkanone5087 Sam' ONella reference?
@@mr.gulaschkanone5087 But Mr. Gulaschkanone Omastar didn't enrage his father, the Vikings did
*ALL HAIL LORD HELIX*
Never
Yes praise lord helix
Yes
@@soulhoney1908 yes kabutops is WAY better
@@Ihatebritain hail the kabutops
Insert Lord Helix joke here.
😂😂😂😂😂
Crap. Beat me to it.
*Insert UNFUNNY Lord Helix Joke here*
Jay Lenno.
DAE think Lorde Helix is GOD???2??
Omastar's Gen 1 sprite looks absolutely
F A B U L O U S
10:23
"Mom said its my turn to play pokemon"
Hahaha I can totally see that
I just realized that using skillshare is like EV training yourself
Stfu 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I guess
Yeah well I have really bad base stats and IVs so honestly I'm not worth the hassle
@@DrowsyLemon what about your nature I bet your adamant at least
JC-JC Station hes a special attacker tho
Finally Sword and Shield…
Omastar missed the first stages of Sword and Shield due to Dexit, but came back once the Crown Tundra rolled in. Low Speed and special bulk coupled with common weaknesses landed it in PU once again. There, however, it was an absolute monster. Primeape didn’t survive Dexit, so Omastar now outrun just about everything after Shell Smash, while Gastrodon was making itself nice and comfortable in NU, so Omastar’s main counter was gone too. While PU did have bulky Water types like Vaporeon and Lanturn, they would fold to its new toy: Meteor Beam, a 120 base power Special Rock type move that also boosted Omastar’s Special Attack by one stage. A +3 Meteor Beam blew straight through would be checks like the aforementioned Vaporeon and Lanturn, as well as Roserade, Druddigon and would just vaporise anything that didn’t resist it. Grabbing a Shell Smash was very simple, with Pokemon like Kangaskhan and Talonflame providing ample set up opportunities. Meteor Beam combined with Weak Armor meant it didn’t even always need to set up Shell Smash - it could come in on a physical attack, get the Speed boost, and use Meteor Beam to boost its Special Attack. It could still easily shred offensive teams at +1. Stopping it was a nightmare - the only priority move that OHKOed it was Life Orb Toxicroak’s Vacuum Wave, Ice Beam smashed all Grass types bar the rare Ferroseed, and the bulky Water types that used to give it trouble got blown up by Meteor Beam. It got banned alongside fellow Water types Kingler and Clawitzer, and hasn’t managed to replicate its success in NU yet. Still, being too strong for a tier is already a big win for lord helix.
Some players tried to make Omastar work in VGC, with the Weakness Policy Dynamax trick, combined with Weak Armour for a Speed boost. But…Coalossal does that way better, as itisn’t weak to Rillaboom and Regieleki, has its own G Max move and the boost from Steam Engine gives it enough Speed to outrun Regieleki after a boost.
I read everything with Kellen voice and it's amazing
Damn this was really well done. Props.
Um, Gen II post special split analysis is missing
I was wondering if I'd ever see how that 115 special would be split
I'm pretty sure it got shafted by the special split. It was the opposite of Hitmonchan/Hitmonlee essentially.
@@XCodes Not as bad as I thought it would be. I was expecting a base 55. 70 is ok until later gens where it simply isn't enough to keep up with the power creep.
@@snakeywakey3893 Yeah 70 sp.def isn't awful but it's pretty mediocre, especially when it only has 70 hp.
Poor Lord Helix. Rock has too many weaknesses for a "defensive" type. That's it's and many other Rock types biggest problems
Eh omastar mostly suffered from swift swim ban than anything. He was pretty common on gen 5 Ubers tho:)
Never needed that def typing when you smash face😂
Rock being weak to grass never made much sense to me.
@@erictalaveramartinez4160 i guess grass after being crushed by a real life rock but it still alive
Initially, Rock types have plenty of weaknesses but compensates for having really high Defense in Gen 1. Just look at the Rock types of that generation: Rhydon, Golem, Omastar and Onix.
Then Gen 2 introduced the Steel type, and Rock was immediately outclassed, as Steel types not only pack high Defense, but also offers more resistances to the table. The only defensive advantage of Rock was a resistance to Fire type attacks.
@@erictalaveramartinez4160 Plants can erode rocks.
Omastar: I am a holy god.
Smogon Tiering System: I’m going to have to stop you right there.
I will always have a soft spot in my heart for Omastar. He was my first Pokemon card. Seeing things like this brings back memories.
Can I offer an alternative title? “How PRAISEWORTHY was Lord Helix actually?”
With how the video shows it... Less so as time goes on.
Who
Asked
The meme with the power to back it up. That's pretty rare.
"It doesn't possess its counterpart Kabutops' menacing appearance"
*shows image of a Cthulhu monster after hearing a Joe Mama joke*
Who's ready for spooky ghost type coverage this Halloween?
Halloween is satanic..
ARE YOU WORSHIPPING THE DEVIL? YOU WILL ROT IN HELL FOR THAT!
lol i would never ask that
Ghost Shuckle confirmed?
Either Dusknoir, Cofagrigus, or Trevenant
@@elfofcourage those results include patreon pick?
I'm surprised at how successful the OG fossil pokemon were considering how much they had going against them.
Yessir
6:52 "Only do that 25% of the time."
Shows Zapdos with 25 health left XD
> Talks about Omastar's niche in gen 2 involving toxic first and foremost a lot of the time
> Doesn't include Toxic in Omastar's OU moveset list
Really feelin' that disconnect
Peaceful flower toxic isn’t as good in gen 1 because you can switch out and the toxic poison becomes regular poison, right?
@@user-eu8jd2be9j My comment was about his gen 2 portion, not gen 1. Toxic just wasn't listed during the gen 2 showing of Omastar.
Peaceful flower bro not even Sandstorm was listed, I feel like he needs to take a second look at the move list before uploading, there are usually inconsistencies in that part
Jmash324 To be fair, the sets on Smogon are rarely updated to fit the current meta.
Literally unwatchable
Welcome back to this episode of the BW weather war casualties; today we got omastar
Hey its nice to see you getting sponsors. Alot of work and research go into these videos so its nice to see you getting noticed.
16:34 "If the prospect of smashing is too risky, like it always is"
What is it with the fossils not getting access to Rock Slide until after Gen 2!?
Lord helix:
Me: throws a salad at it
Lord helix: *dies*
no u
One pokemon that should get shell smash is blastoise especially since it has such an awesome move pool containing physical and special stabs along with moves like earth quake, flash cannon, fake out, aura shere, dark pulse, and much much more allowing it to run a great mixed attacking set and have decent bulk while sweeping and not a bad defensive typing to boot
I think Blastoise gets denied for lore reasons, its shell is supposed to both be indestructible and a vital part of its body iirc (if its shell broke, would its cannons fall out?).
However, the announcement of Charizard for SwooSh heralds the likelihood of Venusaur and Blastoise to make it in as well, and with Charizard getting a G-Max, Venusaur and Blastoise are due boosts as well, so there's still hope...
@@autobotstarscream765 Blastoise and Venusaur didn't receive two megas, it's perfectly possible for GF to give giga thing to Zard and let the other two unchanged.
@@nyoron39 Anything's possible, but that would be kind of gross, *especially* after the aforementioned Mega favoritism.
Then we have to imagine naked Blastoise.
You got yo wish
THE LORD HELIX IS HERE, BABY!
This is truly a blessed day.
The legendary Lord Helix approves this message.
6:09 - Omastar vs Feraligatr? I see what you did there. Clever reference.
And it was an example of a loss
Great vid as always. Have you ever thought about doing coverage on NFE? I doubt it would make sense to cover individual Pokemon, but perhaps a video that details the various metas in each Gen? Not sure if there is enough content to do this, but feels like it would be a cool video.
Time to go through all the comments saying that they chose the helix fossil
Well I chose the dome fossil most of the time lol
@@skye.xv88 nice me too but everyone I know chose helix
Praise!
@@skye.xv88 You sinner
I usually choose Dome, 'cause I think Kabutops is awesome.
R.I.P me.
(I still like Omastar, though.)
Omastar: But I'm nothing without Swift Swim!
OU: If you're nothing without the Swift Swim, maybe YOU shouldn't have it.
Kabutops: OOF
Ubers: now you can swim fast with us
Call me simple minded in that I'm not doing competitive play, but *nothing* is wrong with Shell Armor. Omastar is built for decent bulk and having guarantees that *no critical hits* are going to ruin you outright is nice.
Kind of curious the defensive sets didn't mention using it to stay in long enough to work...
Weak Armor is way risky, though.
@@stetsonherrick8090 Even though it won't get crit, even regular attacks still murder it.
@@TheBestFormOfHumor Resistances to Normal, Flying, Poison, Ice and a quad Resist to Fire, along with a 70/125/70 Defensive stat spread?
That's not completely unworkable alongside no critical hits. Unless you were originally only looking at bulk from a Special side over Physical side?
If so, is Special assault seriously *THAT* much more lopsidedly broken compared to Physical?
I love how every single Generation 1 Pokemon is in pu for Gen 7 and 8
non mega: tauros charizard venusaur blastoise vileplume starmie dragonite zapdos moltres machamp mew mewtwo arcanine alakazam golbat magneton gyarados slowbro tentacruel gengar
Omastar was/is that type of Pokemon that sometimes had me forgetting that he had a dual weakness...
Playing blue version as a kid, omastar was my favorite pokemon to the point of overleveling it before the e4 at the cost of the rest of my team
I was actively waiting on thos video all week
A sponsor, nice!! Glad to watch these and support ya!
I'm honestly surprised that you didn't mention Omastar in gen 6 RU at all. It wasn't RU by usage but it had a fairly notable metagame presence doing its old tricks like setting hazards/smashing, especially during the early meta where at least one very prominent team made by New Breed featured it. (Lead Omastar/Life Orb Hitmonlee/Doublade/Dugtrio/Specs Meloetta/Speed Boost Yanmega, the fact some of these pokemon were legal in RU at the time really shows its age lol).
Even by the end of the metagame it was still considered good enough that it was B rank on the RU viability rankings on the forums.
former rutl molk btw
btw i'm a big fan of your content, especially considering i've played a bunch of these metagames myself!
I noticed that both Kabutops and Omaster are in the same tier in every Generations they're in.
So proud of you’re sponsorship!!!
7:06 the 69% chance of one-hit KO an offensive Jirachi....
NICE!!!
0:34 Gen 1 Omastar striking that pose 💃
Here’s a great marketing tactic:
How good was SkillShare actually
(Also Crawdaunt pls, I feel like it is an underrated mon due to it having Adaptability)
Crawdaunt was the cleanup sweeper on my UU Trickroom team back in gen 6. I miss that team.
Crawdaunt is a fan favourite, everyone knows is niche in OU and people love styling with me.
But the mon needs a lot of skill due to terrible defense and speed
Crawdaunt was never underrated after the physical special split in gen 4. If you thought so, you are wrong. It's even in the UU tier. Many strong Mons are on the same level
@@bengioukulele900 It does have Aqua Jet. And mostly trick room teams bring out the potential of it. Just swords Dance and you sweep. Same for Marowak
@@glaciveestudios6170 today OU can play around crawdaunt aqua get
0:29
Omastar’s feed and seed (Formerly extincted)
Let us consult with the Helix Fossil and see and hear it's infinite wisdom in this video.
"There's a time and place for everything, but not now."
Greeeat, Omastar is one of my favourite Water Pokemon😍😍✨ But please, do Raticate next🐀
Praise Lord helix!
We must praise Lord Helix for good RNG in future battles
I used Omastar on my Sandstorm triples team.
He did well.
I don't think it's a coincidence that there is a 69% to KO Jirachi
I great quite fond of my first Omastar. Such a weird and wiggly little fella.
he is god
wow, Omastar actually an Ubers & OU monster at times, much unexpected
Omastar has always been outclassed by other water types in VGC. RIP
Omastar certainly impresses!
I've found great success with Omastar in Gen 1 OU. With Hydropump, Blizzard, Rest, and Submission; Chansy is no problem and it's bulk makes it do consistently well against all the other normal types, and great against Wrap or Clamp spam. My Omastar does well against Tauros, Chansy, Snorlax, Dragonight, Charizard, Rydon, Cloyster, and it certainly still gives Alacazam, Slowbro, and Starmie a hard time.
Not menacing?! It looks terrifying. Also praise lord helix
Omg. Look at that Gen 1 sprite xD
How CUTE are Omastar's undulating tentacles ACTUALLY
Who is the character of your pfp?
Omastar + Swift Swim + Shell Smash is one of the most agressive sweepers of the game.
Its only a lowet tier because of the ban of the abilities Drizzle and Swift Swim. So Omastar is amazing with that combo and is one of the best fossil pokemon out there.
I mean they are only banned in gen 5
when i saw the post with everyone commenting for it i thought you had already done this one
“As the process of smashing would be too risky.”
😏
always is 🥴
I’ve always enjoyed playing with Omastar when I could fit it onto a rain team. I’d say a decent improvement could have been to potentially give it Warer absorb as a hidden ability although Weak armor was good for certain situations.
"Omastar, how could I not shine?" -Ludwig
All praises be to Lord Helix 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thanks for another great vid False Swipe 💙🐱💙
P.S How GOOD was Mightyena ACTUALLY? please? I know there are other ‘Yena fans out there! I don’t mind if there are no VGC platings for it at all, I just really want to see my main Darkmon get a turn in the spotlight! Please?
If you wanna vote for Mightyena: Search for the community post and vote there. He doesn't check votes in comments anymore, because it's harder. When you go on his channel, slide to the community tab and comment your vote under your post.
Bálint // Master King I’ve been told that before but on my app it just says basically “use RUclips on your phone for Community Tabs”, I can’t do that so I’m just hoping Mightyena gets chosen eventually 😓😓😓
Thanks anyway 👍🏻
OMG, that sounds like a good video
I always chose the Helix Fossil when I was a kid playing the original games. Not because I especially liked Omanyte, but because I was such a *stupid* child that I misread "Dome Fossil" as "Dumb Fossil" and tiny 5 year old me was like "Pssh, I'm not picking no dumb fossil! I'm too smart for that!"
While Arceus created the Pokemon Universe, Lord Helix created Arceus
So true
StickMaster500 facts
Helix is trash and no lord
Next week we got to wait for dusknoir or spiritomb
Omastar has a cooler looking 3D model then I expected.
How good was Conkeldurr Actually?
Good video as usual Kellen, but I couldn't help but notice some odd drops in information here that sorta bugged me. For Gen 2, you didn't even post the new stat distribution after the Special split. On top of that, you talked a lot about Sandstorm and Toxic, but they didn't even show up on the popular moves list.
This isn't meant an attack though, I just want to make sure your videos keep up the good quality they've been in the past. Still loving your content as usual!
I use this baby in modern competitive. Omastar is REALLY underrated honestly.
The thing is, it's way too mediocre without huge team support and you need far more self-sufficient Pokemon. Cool that you like him, but there's a reason for him to go unused.
Lord helix is cool and all BUT have you heard of ursaring? How GOOD was ursaring? Pleaaaseeeeeee
As much as I would like to see that video, I highly doubt it could ever do anything remarkable in competitive. I still like it but it's nothing special.
Captions on > Korean (auto-generated) > auto translate (English) > profit
Come on, FSG, just let me edit your captions for you. I'll do every video for free.
FSG: UNFORTUNATELY, Omastar was extinct in the seventh generation.
Audience: (booing intensifies)
ALL PRAISE LORD HELIX lol thank you for the quality content as usual FalseSwipeGaming I look forward to next weeks
It got meteor beam in gen8 which helps it as a special rock type stab
The special split did him dirty.
Can we get a Omastar Mega that just turns back into the Helix Fossil?
Lord Helix, please bless thee with a video from the great lord False Swipe Gaming, "How GOOD was Lickitung/Lickilicky ACTUALLY? - History of Lickitung/Lickilicky in Competetive Pokemon (Gens 1-7)". I have been a devout follower of the lord for 5 years, and this is my only wish. OH GREAT HELIX, I BEG OF THEE, BLESS THY FOREHEAD WITH THE TENDRIL OF HOPE.
Hey! Love your vids, I watch every week.
I noticed you didn't show Omastar's stats after the Special split in gen2? So I had to look it up. It looked like it'd be a wall, but I guess the points went into attack. Anyways, just make sure to show the stats on the Gen 2 page too, that'd be nice.
Oh, and while I'm here asking for things: would you also show a graphic that displays the pokemon's resistances? I'm not that good with remembering the type resistances and it'd help, like, when you show the stats page, to just have a little blurb that says what it's resistant to and what it's weak too.
Love your channel! Can't wait for the next one. Also, I'm REALLY looking forward to seeing the Rotom episode!
For reference, here are the Gen 1 Pokemon who have not been covered yet:
Butterfree
Raticate/Alolan Raticate
Fearow
Parasect
Victreebel
Vileplume
Venomoth
Electrode
Dewgong
Kingler
Arbok
Primeape
Hitmonchan
Hitmonlee
Farfetch'd(/Sirfetch'd)
Golduck
Seaking
Dodrio
Hypno
Mr. Mime
Lickitung/Lickilicky
Hey FSG I really enjoy seeing what pokemon lose or gain special defense during the transition between gens 1 and 2 but I didn't see what Omastar gained/lost in this video. Please add it in future gen 1 videos!
Omastar is quite the unique Pokémon because we don't see fast hazard setters that can also hold their own offensively very often. From my own experience, this combination is still quite powerful in Ubers especially on something like Ribombee, with its Bug Fairy Typing hitting almost every super fast Pokémon in the tier outside of Genesect
Hot take: Omaster needs to get a Cross-Generation Evolution Stage to get a scale of 500 Base Stats up to around 550 Base Stats in order to finally shine well as an actual deadly competitive Pokémon
Omastar in ubers? I guess the helix prophecy was true.
ARE YOU SERIOSLY THAT STUPID!? ITS FREAKING PU!
@@ralphmarges2965 it is a joke chill
@@ralphmarges2965 calm down Kappa
@@doremysweet860 okay but just face it omastar is useless lord helix is nothing but a tidal wave of bullcrap
@@ralphmarges2965 dont talk about omastar like this, i had omastar in one of my randomizers, and it was a very good pokemon in my team
At long last, I have found it. Praise Helix.
Finaly Omastar! Now Victreebel is the only member of my second Kanto team that is left. And yeah, i love the Helix lord
Victreebel might be the competitively strongest remaining Gen 1 Pokemon left.
@@moonjelly5 probably, he and Venusaur are the best Poison types in gen 1
Amazing video! Keep it up
That glorious Gen 1 Sprite, though
Yeah, Omastar is my favorite fossil pokemon, much better than Kabutops imo. I definitely want them to buff it sometime in the future.
I swept in NU many time with one Omastar team in gen 7. It was weak armor, focus sash and shell smash. It was really fun
How fabulous was Omastar's gen 1 sprite ACTUALLY.
Omastar is awesome. Sweeped Lance with one.
for mons like these whenever it gets to gen 6, or sometimes 5, every conpliment he gives soinds a bit empty cuz theyre usually at NU/PU