You were looking at load data for the Barnes Tac-XP, which is a solid copper bullet that loads more like a 230gr lead core. This is the inappropriate way to find a charge weight. It is, however, safer than loading a copper bullet using lead data as that will always result in overpressure.
In 45 I have a Taurus and Charles Daly 1911s. Love them both. I’ve got a compensator on the Charles Daly. I reload with mostly Rocky Mountain Reloading bullets, but have used Berrys and X-treme bullets too. For 45 I really like power pistol powder.
Great video. I have reloaded/shot thousands of Berry's using a Lee Loadmaster with a FCD for IDPA/SSP/9mm and always found them accurate at those ranges. When you shoot thousands of rounds a year and use Berry's there is a good chance you are using range brass, not new. Maybe go through a streamlined process for reloading range brass that requires primer pocket swaging and possible case trimming? Honestly, I never trimmed handgun brass, but primer pockets are the slow step which many times requires off press work. Thanks!
I have a Ruger 1911, a Remington R-1 1911, a Para Ordinance GI Expert 1911, - all 5" government modles, and a Springfield XDS 4" , all in 45acp. The load I shoot in all my 45's is the 230gr Berry's fmj solid plated bullet, 5 1/2 grains of Unique, WLP's, in any brass for around 820fps in my 5" guns and 800 fps in the XDS. Good accurate load in all my 45's and fairly easy on the guns for a target plinking load. Yet close enough to regular army ball ammo to work in a pinch for self defence.
My favorite .45acp, hands down, is the 1911. I load on a Dillion 550B. I have loaded cast, plated and jacketed for the .45 over the years. For practice and USPSA competition it makes sense to use plated bullets. I have used Berry's, Rainer and Extreme with near equal success. I have also loaded polymer coated and Moly coated. I have a test barrel filled with rubber mulch to recover the bullets after firing. With polymer the coating does come off so I no longer use them. Copper plated and Moly hold up the best.
When using load data for other components (Hodgon site), I find Barnes TAC-XP to be a poor place to start, they are entirely copper and too voluminous to use their charge data, especially hollow base.
AA2, AA5, Winchester 231 powders. As far as the press, my suggestion is a working man's type, Lee progressive and turret types. For me, the Dillon isn't anything I need nor want. I don't load those type quantities to have a press like that. Edit, I even load on a single stage Lee.
Not a hundred 150 fps. Elevations plays little into muzzle velocity, temp yea but me and Gavin live in similar environments that way. Storage I don't believe that's it either as I have a hard time believing he just let that ammo or powder sit around until it was compromised. Chrono, well that's why I asked. That load should be doing over 900
@@jonathanlogan6647 eh, who knows. Could be a bent chrono arm causing havoc lol. But yeah you're right, 150 fps isn't something to ignore, especially in something relatively slow moving like .45 acp.
Between 9mm and 45ACP I'm in the ten thousand plus Berry's bullets. They just plain work. I have 8 or 9 very nice 1911s from Kimber, Springfield TRP to Dan Wesson and a custom Ed Brown; my Glock 21 with a aftermarket trigger shoots more accurately than half of my 1911s.
Good and fun video! I am a newer loader and the most frustrating thing for me has been loading Berry’s in .44. I am using their 240 grain flat point and they have an ever so slight cannelure. I cannot get the roll crimp right on these and it feels like I am over crimping them because there is no groove for me to set into. If anybody has any advice I am all ears. Rock on 👍🏻
.380 or 9mm Nato on a Lee classic turret set up for auto-turn progressive as a beginner setup with the Berry's bullets? A cheap beginner starting point with least money involved, walk through powder/ primer selection, dies, powder feed, ect.
I'd like to see ashow that loads 44 spec to its full potential using modern revolvers. Something between typical 44 spec load data and the 44 mag. Thanks
What is might the difference be between small pistol primer vs small pistol mag primers. Consider many manufacturer are using small pistol in there loading and I reuse there brass. Have you tested a difference in the small vs small mag primers? I have concerns on pressure.
So ive notice shooting berrys 230 grain out of the 11-inch Reising M50 SMG at 200 meters I'll occasionally get bullets I can actually see in the spotting scope spiraling into Target It almost looks like 18 inch diameter prop wash or a drunk moth. They are however not keyholing and at 100m a 5 shot group looks good at 6 inches. Anyone have any idea what is happening?
I do believe you are seeing a vapor Trail from the bullet. I have seen this a few times on humid or cold days from several other videos. In my own experience, I witnessed this shooting 50 caliber, hollow base bullets just before sunset. my friend and I were astonished at this, but soon figured it out.
Same here. I've been shooting the plain G.I. model for 43 years. Just now rebarreled it. Great weapon! Picked up a rusted up RIA 1911A1 FS a couple weeks ago, and did a full restoration on it. It's prior owner never cleaned or lubricated it for ten years! It was just short of being a trotline weight, but it's all good now.
@@tinncan ooooh it's always a fun day when I can recommend ammoseek to somebody! Check that site out, my friend. Everything from components to fully loaded ammunition. But every time I research a bullet for plinking, I can almost always find FMJs cheaper than plated. Now *quality* fmj vs plated, and you have yourself an argument 😄
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You were looking at load data for the Barnes Tac-XP, which is a solid copper bullet that loads more like a 230gr lead core. This is the inappropriate way to find a charge weight. It is, however, safer than loading a copper bullet using lead data as that will always result in overpressure.
I'm pretty sure he knows that homeboy...😑
@@datdudenosense doubtful, but anyway...
Yeah, I didn't get that.
Great bullets, I have been using Berry's bullets for several calibers for over a decade now.
In 45 I have a Taurus and Charles Daly 1911s. Love them both. I’ve got a compensator on the Charles Daly. I reload with mostly Rocky Mountain Reloading bullets, but have used Berrys and X-treme bullets too. For 45 I really like power pistol powder.
Good video guys! I've been using that bullet for years in my 1911 for low recoil, accurate, budget friendly loads.
2:24 what sights are on that?
My 45 acp pistol kimber eclipse nice video i have use berrys for a number of years now good product
Smith and Wesson MP 45 with apex trigger. Was ready to trade it in before I replaced the trigger, now it's my favorite.
Great video. I have reloaded/shot thousands of Berry's using a Lee Loadmaster with a FCD for IDPA/SSP/9mm and always found them accurate at those ranges. When you shoot thousands of rounds a year and use Berry's there is a good chance you are using range brass, not new. Maybe go through a streamlined process for reloading range brass that requires primer pocket swaging and possible case trimming? Honestly, I never trimmed handgun brass, but primer pockets are the slow step which many times requires off press work. Thanks!
Want to see the new Franklin Arsenal X-10 press…
I have a Ruger 1911, a Remington R-1 1911, a Para Ordinance GI Expert 1911, - all 5" government modles, and a Springfield XDS 4" , all in 45acp. The load I shoot in all my 45's is the 230gr Berry's fmj solid plated bullet, 5 1/2 grains of Unique, WLP's, in any brass for around 820fps in my 5" guns and 800 fps in the XDS. Good accurate load in all my 45's and fairly easy on the guns for a target plinking load. Yet close enough to regular army ball ammo to work in a pinch for self defence.
Gavin, you should bring out the 6 dasher again. Try the Berger 108 bt
My favorite .45acp, hands down, is the 1911. I load on a Dillion 550B. I have loaded cast, plated and jacketed for the .45 over the years. For practice and USPSA competition it makes sense to use plated bullets. I have used Berry's, Rainer and Extreme with near equal success. I have also loaded polymer coated and Moly coated. I have a test barrel filled with rubber mulch to recover the bullets after firing. With polymer the coating does come off so I no longer use them. Copper plated and Moly hold up the best.
When using load data for other components (Hodgon site), I find Barnes TAC-XP to be a poor place to start, they are entirely copper and too voluminous to use their charge data, especially hollow base.
Great bullets, used to load them by the 1000s for IDPA.
Keep up the good work Gavin.
Berry's 230 gr. plated, 6.7 gr. Power Pistol. Quite stout, very accurate.
Fantastic bullets
Rcbs 45acp and 380. Use Berry’s in my 45 love them.
AA2, AA5, Winchester 231 powders. As far as the press, my suggestion is a working man's type, Lee progressive and turret types.
For me, the Dillon isn't anything I need nor want. I don't load those type quantities to have a press like that.
Edit, I even load on a single stage Lee.
Been using these for years. I like these bullets better then the 230s. Also have had great success with the 128 9mm bullets as well
Also how far out are you setting that crono? We are close to the same load used (5.9 vs 6) and we have about 150fps difference between our loads
Elevation, temperature, humidity, powder storage methods, and the chronos themselves all differ.
Not a hundred 150 fps. Elevations plays little into muzzle velocity, temp yea but me and Gavin live in similar environments that way. Storage I don't believe that's it either as I have a hard time believing he just let that ammo or powder sit around until it was compromised. Chrono, well that's why I asked. That load should be doing over 900
@@jonathanlogan6647 eh, who knows. Could be a bent chrono arm causing havoc lol. But yeah you're right, 150 fps isn't something to ignore, especially in something relatively slow moving like .45 acp.
Wow. Id like to download these for full auto use in the Reising!
Between 9mm and 45ACP I'm in the ten thousand plus Berry's bullets. They just plain work. I have 8 or 9 very nice 1911s from Kimber, Springfield TRP to Dan Wesson and a custom Ed Brown; my Glock 21 with a aftermarket trigger shoots more accurately than half of my 1911s.
Good and fun video!
I am a newer loader and the most frustrating thing for me has been loading Berry’s in .44. I am using their 240 grain flat point and they have an ever so slight cannelure. I cannot get the roll crimp right on these and it feels like I am over crimping them because there is no groove for me to set into. If anybody has any advice I am all ears.
Rock on 👍🏻
.380 or 9mm Nato on a Lee classic turret set up for auto-turn progressive as a beginner setup with the Berry's bullets? A cheap beginner starting point with least money involved, walk through powder/ primer selection, dies, powder feed, ect.
I'd like to see ashow that loads 44 spec to its full potential using modern revolvers. Something between typical 44 spec load data and the 44 mag. Thanks
Over crimping can cause headspace problems on cases that headspace on the case mouth - ie:45ACP, 9mm, etc
What is might the difference be between small pistol primer vs small pistol mag primers. Consider many manufacturer are using small pistol in there loading and I reuse there brass. Have you tested a difference in the small vs small mag primers? I have concerns on pressure.
Thanks for the great info! I'm curious how you decided to use Barnes tacxp data for a berrys hbrn?
Didn't you have a similar video using VihtaVuori N310? Is there a significant difference using the CFE Pistol?
I think it would be really great content to test how affective throwing knives are on a ballistics dummy.
Sounds interesting for a different channel 😀
Hornady ap press 223
So ive notice shooting berrys 230 grain out of the 11-inch Reising M50 SMG at 200 meters I'll occasionally get bullets I can actually see in the spotting scope spiraling into Target It almost looks like 18 inch diameter prop wash or a drunk moth. They are however not keyholing and at 100m a 5 shot group looks good at 6 inches.
Anyone have any idea what is happening?
I do believe you are seeing a vapor Trail from the bullet. I have seen this a few times on humid or cold days from several other videos. In my own experience, I witnessed this shooting 50 caliber, hollow base bullets just before sunset. my friend and I were astonished at this, but soon figured it out.
How bout the 38 super in a 1911 platform?
Can you use that data with those bullets?
Seems way under charged to me.
I use them with good results.
Springfield Armory 1911 A1 for me.
Same here. I've been shooting the plain G.I. model for 43 years. Just now rebarreled it. Great weapon!
Picked up a rusted up RIA 1911A1 FS a couple weeks ago, and did a full restoration on it. It's prior owner never cleaned or lubricated it for ten years! It was just short of being a trotline weight, but it's all good now.
Hornady LNL Loading a wildcat
A video series on loading the .445 Supermag would be fun to see!
45ACP Colt Gold cup. Beautiful pistol.
I tried platted bullets. Didn't have great results and jacketed bullets are not that much more.
With as popular as plated bullets have gotten, I often find them to be more expensive than jacketed nowadays.
Where are you buying bulleted from? Xtreme are still like 10crp cheaper than every jacketed projectile I could find...
@@tinncan ooooh it's always a fun day when I can recommend ammoseek to somebody! Check that site out, my friend. Everything from components to fully loaded ammunition. But every time I research a bullet for plinking, I can almost always find FMJs cheaper than plated. Now *quality* fmj vs plated, and you have yourself an argument 😄
Yall need some 10rd wilson combat mags for your scientific testing in the 1911...
Cdp kimber, it's a carry
✌️👍‼️
Hornady LNL 9mm CFE powder.
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Smith and Wesson, MP 45 2.0. I also have a Glock 21 GEN two that I love.
Yall sux your comments are WAY to dry
You are going to do "cool stuff" with a Glock? That does not make sense. #1911Always
Do a video reloading 350 Legend, on anything but a Dillon 🤮
350 legend
I’ve heard hallow base bullets can bulge the barrel. Can anyone speak to this one way or another?
Not a thing, worst case scenario is the skirt gets left behind in the barrel. Think of a case separation in your chamber.