For what it’s worth, I routinely run their 115 and 124 grain bullets 100fps faster than 1,200 FPS limit and have no issues after at least 5,000 rounds. Your mileage may vary.
I have been reloading ammunition for some 38 years and I must say 20 of those years were with Barry’s bullets . I switched over to Barry’s bullets because I cannot find a single thing wrong with them. from the wee little 380 at 80 grains all the way up to the 40 Smith & Wesson at 185 grains . as everything has gone to cutting cost and raising prices, I find Barry’s bullets is a fine company at manufacturing and distributing their bullets at a decent price. I will continue to rely upon them even with my aged ol’ 30-30 Winchester. I hope to see more of your videos. Your information and presentation are spot on and you maintained my total attention throughout.
Thanks! Yes, I was using Berry's bullets long before I started doing stories for Ultimate Reloader. Their bullets for the 30-30 and 45-70 have done well, but mostly I shoot their handgun bullets.
I'm not surprised the Silhouette powder produced higher velocity. I have been told by a source I consider reliable this powder is the old Winchester WAP rebranded. WAP was for years my powder of choice for my 9x23 guns where it delivered excellent velocity.
Great review. Berry's bullets are the best plated bullets on the market. I have used other brands and none are as consistent in weight and size as the Berry's and they are as accurate as any FMJ or HP.
Very relevant content. It’s hard to make reloading 9mm pay right now, and to the extent there is a path, it probably involves either cast bullets (not my thing) or plated bulk bullets like these Berry’s. I’m interested in their offerings for reloading .380 - which absolutely can still save $$ over factory.
I love these. Great accuracy and I really love how well the take the velocity. I just use these now so I can just reload all 9mm with one set of components not have to have bullets for pistol, bullets for my sbr and carbine. Not have to worry about the sbr and carbine having a little too much speed.
I've found that because the crimp can affect the plating on these that I have been trimming all my brass to the same (within reasonable tolerances) length. This lets me get a more consistent crimp. I've had no noticeable issues with lead fouling using these. And the little black treasure chests they ship bullets in are great small storage containers.
To keep my shooting costs down, I mostly load powder coated lead bullets that I produce myself. Occasionally, I will use factory manufactured bullets and nearly always they will be Berry’s Bullets. I have never had a problem with them in any caliber or weight.
Outstanding. Your video presentation is getting better and better, Guy. This one represents fine support for three of the basic reasons to handload: cost per round, accuracy/performance and specific fit to a firearm. Well done, my friend. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
@@guyminer3168 Ransom has their own youtube channel and they talk a little bit each time about how to set it up. They repeat that you don't overtighten it and a handgun might need a magazine full of shots to settle down.
Guy, I really enjoy your episodes on reloading for handguns. I would like to see how the flat point bullets perform. I prefer them to RN profiles for shooting paper. I think, in a pinch, they would make do for defensive purposes as well. Elmer Keith came to the conclusion that they did more damage than round nose profiles through his extensive experience and development of his own bullet design.
Flat point bullets can do a lot of damage indeed! A law enforcement friend of mine forgot to swap his hollow point duty ammo back in and was still carrying flat point range ammo when he was attacked by an armed assailant. The 180 gr flat point 40 cal did the job! It wasn't until afterwards that he realized he'd used "target" ammo. Also look up the story of Alaskan guide Phil Shoemaker killing an attacking grizzly at close range with 147 grain flat point 9mm ammo from Buffalo Bore.
@@guyminer3168 Wow, what a story about your friend!! I remember that grizzly bear story going around a while back. As much as I like the 40 and other more potent rounds, that instance really gives the little 9 a leg up in credibility in my book. Thanks Guy and happy Reloading 👍👍
Did you do the math on reloading cost? With powder being so expensive and haz shipping up too what I see is even with 0 cost for brass I have hard to justify reloading time. Lastly, did you drop powder or weigh? Just curious related to velocity SD/ES.
Just dropped the charges from the Lyman mechanical powder measure. These loads worked really well. I think the good powders, good bullets and good dies all helped. I really ought to run a charge by charge comparison someday. You make a great point about the costs of components, especially if hazmat fees are incurred. I've got no problem if someone wants to buy quantities of good factory loaded ammo at a good price and use it instead of handloads. I've shot plenty of factory ammo over the years. But, we're a handloading channel, so I'm presenting that side of things. This bullet is about a nickel cheaper than many of the other bulk 9mm bullets available, that adds up. Now, is it worth your time? Maybe not. I thoroughly enjoy the process of handloading my own ammo so I often do so.
I've run these and the Xtreme heavy plate in 124gr with both of those powders. I run them just a little hotter which gave me better accuracy...5.4gr CFE-P, and 6.0gr Silhouette. Excellent accuracy in my Sig X5 Legion and worked great for steel challenge.
I think there are regular FMJ and JHP 9mm bullets available for for similar prices as the Berry's plated. Rocky Mountain Reloading is cheaper and even Hornady is only a couple of pennies more per bullet. Am I missing something?
Yes, yes, and yes. At 6'6" 369# xxxxL head it's still preferable to stray closer to the powder puff. Berry Lazercast And hands down the lee autoloader w/ a few mods 👈👁️👁️👍
Berry's just aren't a good value anymore compared to poly-coated bullets, or plated bullets that ship for free. Shipping is a killer for bulk purchases with Berry's.
Buy the Berrys bullets from midway, Midsouth, or another place that occasionally runs free shipping. Unless you have a source that always/frequently has free shipping that the rest of us aren’t aware of?
You and I were both disappointed. I hold tighter than that without a rest! So yes, I'm learning to use the rest and that was my first try. I expect to see much better groups in the future!
I've had mixed results with plated bullets. KKM barrel and Rock River 9mm AR barrels shoot them like laser beams. Glock and Rock Island barrels throw 3 out of 5 off the EZ2C paper targets at 50 feet I've had better luck with polymer coated bullets
IMO. he's too hot. 124 grain plated bullets should be loaded like lead. 1070 to 1100 fps is proper and safe. Once you go faster than that you are flirting with +P loads.
These particular Berry's bullets feature their "thick plate" and are rated to 1,500 fps by Berry's, which I find impressive. I did load to max with the Silhouette powder, and under max with the CFE Pistol powder. I ran them on the warm side deliberately, to show that the Berry's bullets can do it, just fine. Cool thing about being a handloader is that if you prefer to load them to 1,000 fps, you can certainly do so! :) As an example, with my magnum revolvers I typically have both a maximum performance load, as well as a mild load that is far easier on both the shooter and the firearm. Enjoy!
For what it’s worth, I routinely run their 115 and 124 grain bullets 100fps faster than 1,200 FPS limit and have no issues after at least 5,000 rounds. Your mileage may vary.
I have been reloading ammunition for some 38 years and I must say 20 of those years were with Barry’s bullets . I switched over to Barry’s bullets because I cannot find a single thing wrong with them. from the wee little 380 at 80 grains all the way up to the 40 Smith & Wesson at 185 grains . as everything has gone to cutting cost and raising prices, I find Barry’s bullets is a fine company at manufacturing and distributing their bullets at a decent price. I will continue to rely upon them even with my aged ol’ 30-30 Winchester. I hope to see more of your videos. Your information and presentation are spot on and you maintained my total attention throughout.
Thanks! Yes, I was using Berry's bullets long before I started doing stories for Ultimate Reloader. Their bullets for the 30-30 and 45-70 have done well, but mostly I shoot their handgun bullets.
Berrys makes good stuff. High quality that is affordable.
I'm not surprised the Silhouette powder produced higher velocity. I have been told by a source I consider reliable this powder is the old Winchester WAP rebranded. WAP was for years my powder of choice for my 9x23 guns where it delivered excellent velocity.
...Ice been using Berry's plated bullets in both 9 mm and 45 ACP for years...
Great review. Berry's bullets are the best plated bullets on the market. I have used other brands and none are as consistent in weight and size as the Berry's and they are as accurate as any FMJ or HP.
Very relevant content. It’s hard to make reloading 9mm pay right now, and to the extent there is a path, it probably involves either cast bullets (not my thing) or plated bulk bullets like these Berry’s.
I’m interested in their offerings for reloading .380 - which absolutely can still save $$ over factory.
I love these. Great accuracy and I really love how well the take the velocity. I just use these now so I can just reload all 9mm with one set of components not have to have bullets for pistol, bullets for my sbr and carbine. Not have to worry about the sbr and carbine having a little too much speed.
At 19-22 cents per round with nowadays components prices it’s about the only way to go !
Good video for the 9mm! Well done Guy!
I've found that because the crimp can affect the plating on these that I have been trimming all my brass to the same (within reasonable tolerances) length. This lets me get a more consistent crimp.
I've had no noticeable issues with lead fouling using these.
And the little black treasure chests they ship bullets in are great small storage containers.
Been reloading Berry's 124gr #76848 with 3.8gr TiteGroup @ 1.150" OAL. Been very happy with the results.
To keep my shooting costs down, I mostly load powder coated lead bullets that I produce myself. Occasionally, I will use factory manufactured bullets and nearly always they will be Berry’s Bullets. I have never had a problem with them in any caliber or weight.
Outstanding. Your video presentation is getting better and better, Guy. This one represents fine support for three of the basic reasons to handload: cost per round, accuracy/performance and specific fit to a firearm. Well done, my friend. 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
And thank you!
Guy, have you recovered any slugs to see if the Hollow Base expands like a Minet Ball and hugs the rifling to increase accuracy?
I haven't... Good idea.
Great information thank you
I want to see more ransom rest tests with your various handgun loading projects.
I want to learn to use it better. I think those groups could have been much tighter. First time using it. We hope to use it more.
@@guyminer3168 Ransom has their own youtube channel and they talk a little bit each time about how to set it up. They repeat that you don't overtighten it and a handgun might need a magazine full of shots to settle down.
@@billj5645 - I'll check it out!
Guy, I really enjoy your episodes on reloading for handguns. I would like to see how the flat point bullets perform. I prefer them to RN profiles for shooting paper. I think, in a pinch, they would make do for defensive purposes as well. Elmer Keith came to the conclusion that they did more damage than round nose profiles through his extensive experience and development of his own bullet design.
Flat point bullets can do a lot of damage indeed! A law enforcement friend of mine forgot to swap his hollow point duty ammo back in and was still carrying flat point range ammo when he was attacked by an armed assailant. The 180 gr flat point 40 cal did the job! It wasn't until afterwards that he realized he'd used "target" ammo. Also look up the story of Alaskan guide Phil Shoemaker killing an attacking grizzly at close range with 147 grain flat point 9mm ammo from Buffalo Bore.
@@guyminer3168
Wow, what a story about your friend!!
I remember that grizzly bear story going around a while back. As much as I like the 40 and other more potent rounds, that instance really gives the little 9 a leg up in credibility in my book.
Thanks Guy and happy Reloading 👍👍
Much better than coated bullets at just a slight bit more money. Berry's is good stuff.
Did you do the math on reloading cost? With powder being so expensive and haz shipping up too what I see is even with 0 cost for brass I have hard to justify reloading time. Lastly, did you drop powder or weigh? Just curious related to velocity SD/ES.
Just dropped the charges from the Lyman mechanical powder measure. These loads worked really well. I think the good powders, good bullets and good dies all helped. I really ought to run a charge by charge comparison someday. You make a great point about the costs of components, especially if hazmat fees are incurred. I've got no problem if someone wants to buy quantities of good factory loaded ammo at a good price and use it instead of handloads. I've shot plenty of factory ammo over the years. But, we're a handloading channel, so I'm presenting that side of things. This bullet is about a nickel cheaper than many of the other bulk 9mm bullets available, that adds up. Now, is it worth your time? Maybe not. I thoroughly enjoy the process of handloading my own ammo so I often do so.
I've run these and the Xtreme heavy plate in 124gr with both of those powders. I run them just a little hotter which gave me better accuracy...5.4gr CFE-P, and 6.0gr Silhouette. Excellent accuracy in my Sig X5 Legion and worked great for steel challenge.
If you like the sfx you should run the canik rival- s
Love these! What powder are you using?
With a 5.2" barrel you should try the 147gr for that Canik. You try the 135gr? I would be interested in that one.
As long as we've got powder, primers and bullets, we'll keep loading different bullets and giving them a try. :)
I am wondering if a plated bullet will copper foul a pistol barrel more than a full metal jacket bullet.
HOW WOULD YOU COMPARE BERRYS FLAT BASE ROUND NOSE?
i like berry's they are ok. I prefer Xtreme bullets myself.
Looking for the follow up night shot with the atn thor ty
CFE load shoots really soft
Would be nice if C.O.L. was stated.
That's where the confusion comes when looking up load data.
I think there are regular FMJ and JHP 9mm bullets available for for similar prices as the Berry's plated. Rocky Mountain Reloading is cheaper and even Hornady is only a couple of pennies more per bullet. Am I missing something?
These days if you can find a better price on the components you want, well you just scored! Shop hard, shoot well, and enjoy.
Yes, yes, and yes. At 6'6" 369# xxxxL head it's still preferable to stray closer to the powder puff. Berry Lazercast And hands down the lee autoloader w/ a few mods 👈👁️👁️👍
Just checked the website, the cost is 13.1 cents per bullet when buying 1000 count.
Check the 1000 count price at Midsouth Shooters Supply, it's still at 9 cents each as of a few minutes ago.
Midsouth actually sells it cheaper than Berry’s does. Bought 2000 yesterday @ .09 per round.
Looks good to me. If a guy has brass, powder, primers, equipment and time it is definitely worth it.
Berry's just aren't a good value anymore compared to poly-coated bullets, or plated bullets that ship for free. Shipping is a killer for bulk purchases with Berry's.
Whose plated bullets ship free?
@@FMDad-dm5qo everglades
Buy the Berrys bullets from midway, Midsouth, or another place that occasionally runs free shipping.
Unless you have a source that always/frequently has free shipping that the rest of us aren’t aware of?
@@Joe-hz1nw or just buy from RMR and Everglades any time I want.
@@adamhymas4620I didn’t realize that either of those places had free shipping all the time. Thanks for the info.
Was that rest setup correctly? Seems like a bigger group than I’d have expected.
You and I were both disappointed. I hold tighter than that without a rest! So yes, I'm learning to use the rest and that was my first try. I expect to see much better groups in the future!
I've had mixed results with plated bullets. KKM barrel and Rock River 9mm AR barrels shoot them like laser beams. Glock and Rock Island barrels throw 3 out of 5 off the EZ2C paper targets at 50 feet
I've had better luck with polymer coated bullets
Interesting. Thanks!
600 beans for that ransom rest. Sheesh
👍👍👍👋
IMO. he's too hot. 124 grain plated bullets should be loaded like lead. 1070 to 1100 fps is proper and safe. Once you go faster than that you are flirting with +P loads.
These particular Berry's bullets feature their "thick plate" and are rated to 1,500 fps by Berry's, which I find impressive. I did load to max with the Silhouette powder, and under max with the CFE Pistol powder. I ran them on the warm side deliberately, to show that the Berry's bullets can do it, just fine. Cool thing about being a handloader is that if you prefer to load them to 1,000 fps, you can certainly do so! :) As an example, with my magnum revolvers I typically have both a maximum performance load, as well as a mild load that is far easier on both the shooter and the firearm. Enjoy!