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45 Long-Slide Part 2: 185 Grain Projectiles
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- Опубликовано: 9 дек 2022
- Paul tests some different ammo in his 1911 long-slide.
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It's good to see that Paul has plenty of magazines for all those projectiles and nice to know he's owned them all for a long time.
Just curious, how would it affect things for you if they were new? What would that change?
@@jmfowler9062 you missed previous video talking about the new anti rights laws his state put out.
Even the ones still sealed in the bags!
@@jmfowler9062, it may make drastic difference when marxist whores will invent one more excuse to take your property from you.
@@SonOfTheDawn515 thank you. I'll have to row back through.
Still watchin Paul in 2024 and love his very impartial comparisons and explanations
8 head shots off hand from a 1911 at 100yards??? Damn Paul
Hornady should start selling FTX boxes with "like a ballistics tip" on them and give Paul kickbacks.
With a pic of him on the box eating a Pop Tart
Hahaha love it
@@SierraBravo347 Like a ballistic tip, where a man belongs.
FTX projectiles: there's way less in the box than it states. 😄
Paul: “I won’t make you sit through me shooting it.”
Me: “no one is making me, it’s what I’m here for!”
😂
please Paul, make me sit through it. Those who don't want to have the option of fast forward
True that bro, just like Paul's "dawn of time" explanations, I learn new things during his videos that I didn't previously lol that's why I watch his videos.
@@dthundergunb3115 exactly! As the oldest gun enthusiast in my ENTIRE FAMILY, who else am I supposed to get decades of wisdom from??
Powder burn rate has a huge effect on how length of barrel effects velocity. I'm betting the Remington +P gets the added pressure by using a faster burning powder. Which means the barrel length is going to have less effect. Muzzle velocity is a complex topic, where a LOT of factors have to be taken into account.
All I've ever gained from these videos is that plain ole Remington is actually some damn good ammo.
Wish I could find some
#1 ammo criteria:
It goes bang every time.
And Walmart synthetic is good oil.
There are a few places where high volume is used to make a good product to be sold at value prices.
Paul talked me into running Remington to practice with the exact same ammo as carried both for knowing it functions at value prices. I will admit my 380 still gets honiday Gucci ammo. I only empty my mags when I practice to cycle the action and prevent environmental exposure from degrading it.
@@rydplrs71 Don't laugh. Walmart oil filters are a very good choice vs. Fram.
sometimes. In last test 230gr performed poorly. UD is not plain remington
Gotta admit your range, training facility and whatever other environment you use for these presentations are just beautiful locations. The enviro often changes, it is often never
the same and sometimes it is, and that is also good. Don't ever change. The opening scene with the snow and the trees is just fabulous.
What I really wanted to know is whether the added velocity will have any impact on how often the warming drawer on my mom's oven derails itself and falls on the floor.
OK, that was funny.
The answer is... 42
I hate to admit I saw someone shoot their warming drawer with rat shot trying to get a mouse.
I don’t know if they got it. I left.
@@rydplrs71 big mistake!!!!! they should’ve used mouse-shot
I find that to a mouse (or a rat for that matter) snake shot is much more intimidating even if it is just as deadly.
I'm a simple man. I see a Paul notification I open it. Good thing I have warm Pop Tarts ready to go.
Stupid question. I'm newish here, can someone explain the pop tarts reference?
@@csolivais1979 It's Paul being tongue in cheek, his little joke. PH doesn't accept sponsors, and some people have said he should; others post videos about how he's a zillionaire because of You Tube.
In one video, if I remember right, he got lost overnight while hunting, and made a comment about Pop Tarts were a great "survival food."
So the Pop Tarts ad at the start of some of his videos isn't a real ad, it's his humor poking fun at the idea of a sponsor for these videos.
A fellow man of taste.
I’m st Great Skate with a plethora of 5th grade girls, one of which is my daughter for birthday number 11. This is a welcome distraction.
Real men eat pop tarts cold. 😂
TBH I actually like when you include your procedure on the video. I've been watching for a few years now and you are one of the few channels that takes as scientific of an approach as possible to gun questions.
Thank you for shooting a .45 @100yds. I don't think i'd hit paper. However, i like knowing it's capable. Nice video.
If the paper was the size of a barn I might manage.
Paul was clearly proud of that last group. All 10 on target! That is simply insane to me. Same gun and I can't reliably hit 1x1 steel at 25 yards.
That Remington ammo is indeed holding an impressive group at 100 yards. It was consistently better than the other ammo. I would be happy if I could shot a 100 yard off hand group with a hand gun like that every time.
45 long slide with laser sighting, the Terminator.
"Uzi nine millimeter."
@@psychochicken9535 lol
You know your weapons buddy!
"40, 000 watt pulse rifle".
I think that's what he said anyway. It's been a while.
Shooting a 1911 based 45 at 100 yrds is pushing it as far as accuracy goes, be it with 230, 185 or even 165gr bullets. Still glad Paul does these great in depth vids! BTW those plus powers sure did sound like they had some extra omfg to them~1100+ out of a 45 is cooking!
When I was younger, I could hit targets at long distance (I'm sure it was not that good), but today, I'm lucky if I hit the paper 50 yards. 100 yards is a waste on anything less than a rifle. But like Paul says, most encounters are based on the FBI's 7 yard scenario. As long as I can stay good at 25 yards, 7 yards is a breeze.
I think he's breaking the sound barrier with .45ACP. Madness. Speed of sound goes down the colder it gets.
20°C (68°F) the speed is 1130 ft/sec or 344 m/sec
0°C (32°F) the speed is 1087 ft/sec or 331.5 m/sec
I shoot .45 gap and it operates at the pressures +p 45 acp, 1050 with 185 grn hydrashocks in a 4.5 inch g37 and 1000 from the 3.5 inch g39. 200 grn gold dots run 1000 and 950.
My wife walked in on me watching a Paul Harrell video and started pointing out things like
"I don't like his voice", "he's very judgemental", "he sounds so stuck up", "he must really like to hear himself talk".
My wife slept on the couch that night.
Great video Paul. I realized years ago that an extra inch of barrel length matters way more in the bedroom than actual hunting. Shot placement is everything when hunting, that also holds true in the bedroom. You guys out there SHOOT safely.
🤣👍
It's why women can't reverse cars men have been telling women what 6" inches is 🙌 for years
I think you will find bore diameter more important in at least one of those locations.
We all see what you did there, Mr. Ward.
It is.....acceptable.
You're a filthy man.... I salute you.
I just inherited a Colt Series 70 that was made sometime in the 1970s. It's stainless with original rubber grips. I'm used to carrying snub nosed revolvers and compact 9mm pistols, so this old 1911 feels gigantic in my hand.
Does it have the undercut trigger guard where your middle finger rides? So your fingers could be a little higher.
If yes it was called the Enhanced that came with pachmyer grips and factory trigger job.
Very rare.
@@hotrodray6802 It has the standard trigger guard, but it does have the Pachmayr grips. The story I got was my wife's grandpa traded a drill press for it back in the early 80s. It came with a magazine that was loaded back then too.
It's at this point that I must ask - if it is ok to interject with "that's what she said."?
I got used to pachmayer grips on a Kimber, without large hands. Hope it works out for you.
It'll make a man out of ye.....
@@Hjerte_Verke 7mm mag is where most men give up.
I had been waiting so patiently for this since his last 45 acp video. Thanks Paul. This was must the video I needed today. Im definitely mass sharing this video as it was fantastic.
I have been eating poptarts for a month and now I am almost as cool as mr. Harrell.
Been eating them since I was a kid but alas, I still am much less cool than Paul.
I stopped eating them. Maybe that's what's wrong with me?
Will I be late for work watching this? No. But will I risk it? Yes 😂
This just in: Florida Man risking his livelihood over pew pew video!
...I'm just glad I got it on my flip phone. 😁
@@SierraBravo347 he’s a Yankee.
@@dr.floridamanphd But funny, so he gets a pass. 😄
Thank you Paul, just what I needed a much needed pull from what's going on in my life. Thank you as always Paul, and I look forward to this presentation. I'll comment again afterward
I too often need a distraction from real life and the circumstances therein.
I wish you well stranger. ^_^
Really enjoyed both parts of this video. I would like to see a video about shorter barrel .45 acp guns to see if a more typical concealed .45 will also produce expansion at a potentially lower speed. Thanks for the videos though.
Another well thought out, informative video.
Thank you sir!
As always thank you Paul and Crew. Very informative content.
I have a large quantity of 45 ACP and the same number of 45 Auto Rim rounds, with 185g bullets loaded to +P levels. In my Smith and Wesson 625 revolver they have been very satisfactory. They did good workout to 75 yards on small silhouettes at the 2nd Annual Lehmi County Big Bore Revolver Shoot. In other words, I have witnesses. The 625 has a 5 inch barrel. I do not know their velocity, but it is enough that I did no correction for drop out to 75 yards. I like this load for field work.
Oh Hell yeah, jackpot!
Caught this 55 seconds after upload!
And it's another vid on the long-slide too, guess today is my lucky day!
I never get tired of the flawless delivery of what the meat target is.
Thanks Paul and Merry Christmas to you. I hope you the best up there in Oregon.
Thanks for making the 1911 Long Slide Part 2 video.
I can't wait for him to review the phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range
Beat me to it!
Seeing as how 40W is a small incandescent light bulb, that phased plasma must be some potent stuff.
“Hey, only what you see pal!”
@@edisontrent5244 Depends on the focus point of the photon collimater lense....lol
@@edisontrent5244 put it in a microwave
"Like a ballistic tip."
For some reason I just like that you say this every every time you talk about Hornady FTX projectiles....
Mostly I'm just commenting to help the channel :)
With an 11inch barreled Reising m50 smg I typically see about 100fps more in 230 grain compared to a 1911. With 185s nearly 200 more, but it tends to break firing pins rather quickly.
Good info
Interesting.
Have you determined the cause of the firing pin breakage?
Reising, eh. Dad carried one on Guadalcanal. A POS. Everything broke and or rusted solid. His CO had them all replaced with M1Carbines a more reliable weapon. Dad carried his carbine the rest of the war. Loved it.
@@model7374 Yeah, the Reising was rushed into production before all it's problems could be fixed.
It's light and accurate but also fragile, prone to stoppages and ergonomically weird. Another 3-4 years of development would've made it a good gun... but by then the war would've been over.
@@shawnr771 bolt velocity too high. I got it on slow mo. If it opens a bit too fast the firing pin spring does not have time to retract it and the primer puts leverage on it as the case ejects.
Enough difference to make a difference; words that can be used in all facets of life!
Paul, can you do a video updating us on your concealed carry preferences for today? What gun are you carrying these days? What method carry do you prefer? What holster?
Great stuff as always. Thank you!
As always Paul you are a joy to watch!
Probably the smartest man I've watched about guns on internet. Always a great video and always learn something 👍👍
Thank you for the detailed data. The 100 yard off hand is quite impressive. Now go look after that nasty slide bite.
Another great presentation. Also more data proving that Remington ammo is hard to beat. I do carry HCD in my .45 acp. Mainly because that’s what I have it zeroed at, however, I’ve always liked Remington ammo. It’s what I use in all my hunting rifles and has never let me down.
'How much more P am I getting' is a question I will start asking myself from now on every single time I contemplate a new endeavour.
As a long time fan of the 185 grain bullet weight for the 45, I loved this video.
Great video. Thanks Paul !
MERRY CHRISTMAS Paul Harrell and Viewers! 👍👍💯⭐
🎅🦌🎄
Ready for the show 😎
I visited Paul's house the other day for a fruit cocktail and a barbeque.
Imagine my surprise when I found human lungs in the fruit bowl to simulate oranges and grapefruits. I also realised he was merrily roasting a man's pectoral muscle which he said was to simulate pork ribs. And you'll never guess what his couch was upholstered in.
Still, it was a lovely meal.
😂👍
That was a good video. I enjoyed watching the testing and supportive commentary.
The 1911 tucked into the jacket is a great look.
Even though 45 acp is low pressure round in 180 gr it holds its own againts the much more modern and high pressure 40 SW.Very light bullets can be loaded in 45 acp to produce 700 plus ft lbs , more than 40 or 357 Sig.
I think the main reason to get the long slide is "The Terminator". Unfortunately, I don't think they make those old school laser sights anymore, assuming that wasn't a simple movie prop.
It was a real laser sight but the battery pack back then was huge and Arnold actually had a cord running through his sleeve and the battery hidden in his jacket as it was too big to mount in the pistol. Amazing how much that tech has matured in 30yrs.
@@bryangrote8781 Was it also a HeNe laser? Or was it solid state like they are now?
@@Fudmottin Pretty sure it was not solid state as I believe that SS tech was one of the ways they were able to shrink the size of modern lasers and early ones were gas filled, but been a while since I read about it and don't recall the details. Seems like Forgotten Weapons or Brownells had a vid on it not long ago.
Paul, for what it's worth, I enjoy watching you fire the gun. It relaxes me. :)
Another excellent video. Entertaining and informative as always. 👍👍👍
Word on street say's that the FTX ammo is like a "Ballistic Tip."
Things I learned today: Paul can hit a target at 100 yds with a 1911, I doubt I could even if I owned one. I also learned that Walmart sells round balls of lung tissue that are marked as oranges but may not be the color orange.
I would postulate that if you are shooting at something 100yrds away with a 45 ACP pistol, hollow point expansion is kind of irrelevant. At that distance, merely putting holes in the intended target would be sufficient.
He said that
Winter is the best time for shooting videos because not only do we get the nice wispy smoke from each shot, we also get the steam-vent exhale after each shot to remind us of trains.
Paul makes that Kimber even more handsome, love it.
I'm just surprised the kimber haters didn't get their panties all bunched up in the comments yet. At least not that I've found. They are a ferocious and determined group!
@@mattschmitt9924 Kimber may have some stinkers, mainly there smaller micro guns, but the revolvers, rifles and most 1911s are pretty nice for the price.
So IN! and thanks for responding the other day @Paul Harrell . Now want there to be more .40 Content...it doesn't Suck like people say it does, and did a video today on that
It may not "suck", but it has minimal ballistic or performance advantage around it's main competition.
@@ChristopherKnN I disagree. Balance of capacity, size of rounds, weight of round momentum maintained, larger expansion...and fmj fp just fine fr animal defense too. See my vid today and my caliber tissue crush vid
Another great Paul video.
I had never before noticed the grip technique where you shoot with your left thumb on the slide and end with it forward.
Shitchya! That's what I carry, 185 +P but in the Speer Gold Dot. Glad to know I chose wisely.
I appreciate the brevity you added to this exquisite analysis that covered quite a bit of options!
The Increased content is great!
I'm surprised Paul hasn't give that Kimber the Old Yeller treatment like so many other guns. Unless this Kimber is a unicorn that works.
thank you. You read my message about 185 gr 45 acp bullets
I'm guessing a lot of the variation is related to the burn speed of the powders. Especially with hot self defense ammo because the manufacturers probably expect the users are often using shorter barrels. They might be using the fastest powder they can and +P rate it because of the fast powder causing a higher peak pressure.
Oh, stop trying to be all scientific! (As I Start calculating specific impulse vs. the time/space matter curve on a 3-D graph, or something like that).
@@markh.6687 Oh stop trying to be all dumbed down.
@@exothermal.sprocket Jokes on you; I AM dumbed down! 😁
@@markh.6687 In that case, start trying to be scientific.
*ding* Paul Harrell notification.
Me: puts the pop tarts in the toaster, and cold milk in a glass.
Let's go!
I'm still curious about the performance of 230 grain projectiles in 5 inch vs 6 inch barrels. I think we can reasonably infer it would resemble this 185 grain test. Specifically, I suspect that the 230 grain +P hollow points would expand fine out of a 5 inch barrel and perhaps a smidge better out of a 6 inch barrel. I think I would still like to see the presentation, though.
Well I enjoyed part 2 every bit as much as part 1. I have to agree that the necessity of taking a 100 yard shot with a 1911 is remote at best. But as an intellectual question it is interesting, and any reason to test one's self is a good reason. Please keep up the very good work.
Great job Paul, Merry Christmas!
That Remington +P is a spicy box. Imagine that from a PCC; another point of contact for more stability, a longer sight radius for more accuracy, AND a longer barrel to add even more velocity.
A lot of semi-automatic pistol ammunition doesn't gain *that* much velocity from a longer barrel the way revolver ammunition does. They'll pick up some, but not as much as a lot of people expect. Those small cases tend to be loaded with faster powder that's more efficient in typical handgun-length barrels.
That said, I do agree that the Remington +P ammo Paul shot here was a lot hotter than I expected, and it might be an exception to what I just stated above. Only one way to find out, and that's to try it.
@@Kaelland I figured the velocity wouldn't change much. The accuracy difference at 100 yards is more what I'm curious about; Paul already hits really good with just a handgun (I know he's got years of service and experience, but it's still impressive). The Hi Point 4595 would be an interesting guest star.
AMT used to make The Hardballer and The Longslide. I wanted the longer one so bad but they were out of my league at the time.
Thanks for another great video, Paul. I always look forward to the meat target.
Paul it's interesting what things will provoke discussion and argument in the gun community when it to ammunition choices.
It's not all that different than the boating community about changing propeller pitch for more speed in a planning hull boat.
In reality it's arguing over minutiae that can change from day to day.
Thanks for another great video, Mr. Harrell.
Great review, Ty. I shoot that Remington +P with a 97B. It's very satisfying and always gets the job done. Glad to see your numbers and hear your analysis.
Kind of interesting how the chronograph readings get faster with more shots. Guess Happiness is a Warm Gun on a day with snow on the ground.
Great follow up video, thank you!
I reload and in reviewing standard loads against + P it seems that the +Ps are more about pressure than velocity assuring that the gun functions. I was not happy with expansion from my 45 auto so I bought a Kimber and a 460 Rowland kit for it with a 6 in barrel. At 1600 fps and 185 gr bullets it is often too much. The 225s 240s are good. I bought a frame and slide from Brownells and am building a 6 in ramped barrel gun in 10mm,38 super and 9mm. Great presentation lots of information and good shooting.
Everyone , including myself was impressed when that guy shot the bad guy 10 times at 40 yds in a certain amount of time. Paul Harrell just stuck 10 on target at 100yds.......I cant do that , that I know of anyway. Thats pretty impressive to me
Paul also wasn't in a live fire situation.
While I'm confident he could still hit his target, don't diminish a heroic deed.
Good stuff!
C’mon Paul! You make all of us wanna be “great shots” look bad with your shooting ability. One thing for sure though, I class this site in amongst the few that I see that I can really trust these days. Thanks for all the informative videos that you make!
Another informative video. Think I’ll keep my Clark custom Colt 1911 long-slide built in 1964.
I love them long slides! I don't particularly care if it does make much difference at all or not they're just badass! I want an AMT Hardballer like Arnold carried in the first terminator movie! That gun is the long slide that made me fall in love with the 1911!
Thanks, Paul, this was good and useful information.
Thanks Paul
im definately switching to them remington rounds very impressive.......
125gr, JHP out of a S&W 686 with a 6" barrel were all inside the 8 ring at a 100yds. The Coonan model 'B' with a 5" barrel does quite well also.
Years and years ago, before the first Brady bill…. I was told by an authority I believed that +P in smokeless powder ammo uses a faster burning powder in order to reduce the losses of shorter barrels.
I have no ability to back that up, and my source died years ago.
It would be interesting if Paul could tackle that theory.
Thank you Paul.
Thanks, Paul, very useful video
Yeah, try convincing my wife there's not enough difference to make a difference between a 5-inch barrel and my 4-inch...
I'm totally going to make her watch this video, THANK YOU PAUL!!
Wow what a great video. It's amazing the effective range you can achieve with even a .45 ACP given the proper skill.
185 grain projectiles are appealing. The only ones I have tried are Winchester Silvertips, which had destructive results.
I got to buy some more of those.
Numbers aside, I just really like a 6" barreled 1911s and its nice to see them get some love.
I had a Chow 45 many years ago, loved that gun.
Good video Paul, nice shooting off hand @ 100yds.
I love my long barreled S&W model 25
Video idea for Paul.
I have no idea how you could test this but, there seems to be a really big push in the last year about handgun stopping power against grizz. Hilarious to me, but lets for the sake of argument present the case. Perhaps testing on the meat target with some type of hard or thicker frontal covering to simulate thick skin and dense bones.
Part two of this test, every single "anti bear" round that I come across on the marketplace seems to be Hardcast or FMJ, is it really better than HP?
Perhaps a wrap up of the video of showing the difference between multiple ultra high horsepower pistol cartridges and a single 12 gauge slug.
Hope all is well, love the videos, keep up the great work.
Check out our presentation titled, "giant handgun shoot.."
Yes will be seeing more shows on the ol’ .45 acp??? Because of 114? I love anything about 45 acp. Lol. Im old fashioned. Don’t get to see Paul shoot .45 enough times.
Let's be honest: that 6" Kimber in stainless is just _cool._ 'nough said.
I'm really surprised at the performance of those 185gr. projectiles at 100yds. The +P from Remington as well, although Remington surprises me consistently enough that I probably shouldn't be surprised anymore. Their guns are a hot mess, but their ammo is more than adequate!
Different branches of the company. They're not even associated with the firearms manufacturing side.
@@SonOfTheDawn515 Correct, different divisions within the same company. Don't think I said or implied otherwise.