@Danielle McDonald so true. I never liked her anyway. She always gotta be extra extra!!! She always knows it all and her life story has to be better than everyone else!
I'm a true Salt-N-Pepa fan and Spinderella was truly a member of the group. She played a vital role not just as a DJ but she danced, rapped and brought her energy to the group.
She got paid for her appearances. She didn't write, produce, or own anything....this is a business. You get paid for what you sign a contract for....sorry
@lloydporchia7583 that again doesn't make her an equal member of the group. Producer credit meaning she made the record happen, not rap on it or ad lib. She was not an EP and still EPs don't make you an equal member contractually in a group. She signed contracts for the services she rendered. Cheryl and Sandy bought the rights to the group, name and future earnings from Herbie who actually started the group, he also wrote, produced hit records for them and he isn't going on and on about not being an equal member. People do not understand the record business they are in their feelings and don't read the contracts they sign.
Drucella it’s not the “cracking” that drives these folks to go under the knife, it’s the self-hate of their natural phenotype that they wish to address by “buying” features deemed as more acceptable in today’s society at large. Non Sub Saharan features are often celebrated, especially “white” ones, whilst ours are shunned and associated with negative and embarrassing traits, oftentimes subtly in these days of political correctness. It’s a shame that many (like Pepe 😢) succumb to the mental torture of having a sub Saharan African phenotype in this world that values women on mostly / solely beauty (the “Western” type, that is). Look, regardless the situation, I guess most people will do whatever they believe is best to elevate themselves out of a perceived “lowly” position and unfortunately that means these DSBW who subscribe to current global standards of beauty will have to chop their faces up to achieve the “beauty” they covet.
Right but by contract Spin was on Herb contract when she was introduced to Salt n Pep had a pre-existing contract way before Spin came to the group but I feel you...
sad but true, but Herby was greedy and even tried to not give Pepa any rights in the group, but Salt wouldn't have it. but with Spin she wasn't there from the beginning and Salt or Pepa didn't know her when she became a part of the group. so she was just an employee, sorry fans don't like it, but she wasn't on SNP level. she has no right to get what she truly wants. she went above and beyond her post and helped build the brand but just like a job if you're the drive-through window worker, why you back there flipping hamburgers? sometimes that can pay off, and the boss will upgrade you, but not always. she tried to do more but at the end of the day Salt and Pepa have the right to not give her a 3rd of the business. at the end of the day money talks, they not giving away their money when they don't have to. sorry. but they in the right legally, and any chance she had to get what she wanted was destroyed when she sued them. but good for her for getting her money from them 15 songs, but after sueing them you best believe they are some hard feelings, and this why she not in the movie much, many other people's images were in the movie, and they had no input as well or money. sad they couldn't work it out. they been going back and forth for over 10 years trust me, i use to keep up with everything from them. but Salt n Pepa probably sick of fighting over it. after Salt came right out and told her it wasn't going to happen, as well as Pepa said nobody coming in between her money. she doesn't have the legal right for what she is fighting for. the only thing she has a right to is them 15 songs and that's why they had a settlement to pay her off for that, because they made a mistake in not knowing they owed her for them songs she had verses on. sad but true. she gone for good the bridge is burnt down on both sides.
True! 🙄 she lying wasn't nobody saying we only want you and salt(Salt & Pepa) leave your DJ at home🤦she wasn't there because they didn't want her there the respectful thing to do would of been to bring her and make the people show y'all "DJ" some love! She sound crazy I was born in 1986 and I grew up with my mom listening to them and I remember getting in trouble for singing Push it when I was little🤣 and I always remember Spin being a huge part I remember videos from the 90's album covers with spin.
@@lastnamerodgers3722 I have a question if you wasn't born how do you know. I'm a couple years younger than them and most of the time they would say Salt and Pepa when they did tv shows Salt and Pepa. The difference is run dmc and jam master J was friends big difference
Pepa is so much into herself and has made her poor daughter that way. The show Hip Hop has really shown her true colors. Like mother like daughter. Spinderella actually had more talent then Salt & Pepa.And actually Salt was a way better rapper singer than Pepa will ever be. Spinderella spinned and sang and she danced with them and to leave her out is a disgrace in the upcoming movie.
I'm not being funny but other than being their DJ what was her responsibility? She didnt create content that was the producer. She didnt write rhymes that was Salt and pepper. Was she not paid as the DJ?
Coco T not to be funny but if you actually listened to Salt N Pepa. You would know that on some of their biggest songs she had a whole verse and actually rapped on the song. She also performed with them numerous of times with them and not behind turntables and she was in the videos. These are things a group member does not “just a dj”
Messiah Black yeah but it was the 80s and she was young and hungry. She was trying to make some money and get in the game. Never did she know at the age of 16 what the future would hold and she probably didn’t have a support system to help guide her.
@@kimberlygreen1078 I still don't like what they did to her...but I agree on that part cuz knowing me...honey.... I wood have been gone.... found me a guy group to DJ for.. females just too much trouble.
Do y’all expect the background dancers and singers to make what Beyoncé or any other celebs make? If not, why expect her to make what they make? She’s always had a separate contract from them.
@@bobbybrown1002 don’t see any background dancers on Beyoncés album covers and merchandise either but Spin was. I’m aware that Spin had a separate contract with them. But S&P literally begged her to join the group and made her the “unofficial” 3rd member. “Employee contract” or not - don’t treat Spin like a sad charity you had mercy on. She was part of the success story. It’s not really about the money for me. Contracts are contracts. It’s about the treatment and the rhetoric. Do better.
This is why I'm confused cause the whole time I thought she was a member of the group. She was in all the videos, she was on album covers, she did live performances with them. Anybody old enough to remember Black Beat, Right On, Word Up and Vibe magazines know how all the posters and photos and articles written on them had the three of them, not two. They claim she was "just the DJ" but they practically used her as the third member of the group (whether it was them or the label, it still happened). Even though the group name is 'Salt-N-Peppa', they were marketed as a trio with Spin. Like Spin was saying about Run DMC, Jam Master J was "just a dj" but he was still considered a member of the group. I know SNP likely had a different kind of contract than Run DMC, but they were marketed as a trio and that's why most fans thought she was a legit member. For them to come out years later and say she was never a part of the group is confusing and low key manipulative. Spin might be right that girl groups were big in the 90s and the label, or whoever, wanted to promote them as a trio to keep up with the TLC's and SWV's of the industry. IMO Spin got done dirty no matter how you wanna "spin" it.
Exactly....I HAD the Word Up Magazines posters on my bedroom wall. I know she was part of the group. They Salt N Papa just always been salty and jealous.
She stopped being recognized as a full member in the late 90s when a record label offered a GIANT, BIG MONEY contract to the group. Cheryl & Sandy were quick to call her an employee as a way of not having to split the coin evenly. But the “signed Spin to the record label” that was a part of this big deal they signed with supposed plans for Spin to have a solo record. Then the SnP album flopped, the label went out of business and the group broke up for a half decade or so. Cheryl & Sandy have been cutting corners on Dee for DECADES! It’s a shame but it’s all about the money.
First album I owned was Very Necessary with Spin on the album cover. You can't tell me she had a big role in the group. Love these ladies regardless, but they did Spin dirty.
@@MuSick23 The difference. What people aren't understanding, is that Salt & Pepa were/are the group! Spin was brought in with whatever deal/understanding she was given. She wasn't even the first Spin! Lol. You're coming into something that was already established. You're not a founding member. It's not gonna be even.
You are correct because Run DMC and Jam Master was always together from the beginning. Also back during that time, men had a stronger voice in the industry. With Salt-Pepper, and Spinderella, they had to do what they were told to do because MEN were the head of the industry.
Man, I hate to agree, but suddenly she looks a LOT older. They JUST had that little reality show not too too long ago, and she didn't look like that. I was listening, but also looking, like wait...what happened??
If she was brought in with someone else under another contract that did not have anything to do with Salt and pepper, Then yes its called Sharing. Her contract was not their business, perhaps they most likely did not even know what she was or was not making. ijs It was not their responsibility to distribute her money. 1. whatever million she said was a nice gesture in my opinion.
@@LifeDesignCLT they weren't supposed to. Spin originally made more than SnP because her contact was bundled with Herb's paperwork and he WAS the group. Spin didn't create her character...herb did and she's not even the original Spin, proving the role is replaceable. If fans understood contracts, s lot wouldn't be half as upset
Rene R. Not the point! She was beautiful before the work and still could have lost weight.... as a black woman it saddens me to see so many iconic queens Turing into weirdos because of a European standard of beauty. No one is hating on pep we hate what she did to her face ... just like Michael Jackson. That was a HANDSOME BLACK MAN.... he destroyed his face and was never the same!
EI84 Ashlee exactly !!! Same point I just made... like come on sis... no one hating and we see her with the same two eyes. Pep is iconic and was BEAUTIFUL THE WAY SHE WAS. She looks like all the rest now that have had that weird nose job done.
Ok, i have to agree with that, i always thought it was just me thinking that. I dont know what goes through her mind when wearing weaves and wigs, its always either to much hair or to over the top, looking crazy, im sorry but im a hair fanatic, its always the first thing i notice.
Tamiko Bridges girl I came in her to say the same. From the cut to the color it's all wrong. I hope spin win her case because they did her wrong so unloyal
Who in the hell was asking to see Salt n Pepa and not expect Spinderella to be there ?Thats like asking for RUN DMC and dying Jam Master Jay couldn’t come and they would’ve never did Jay that way
Yep Cheryl and Sandy could’ve easily protested any opportunities done without Spinderella. I guess they didn’t want to divide that check three ways. It all boils down to money. Sandy got her plastic surgery and Cheryl got her lipo.
STOP comparing the two groups!!! Jam Master is the ORIGINAL group member + family! Spinderella is NOT! Salt N Pep had no dealings with her! Did you not hear what she said! Spinderella didn't make that group nor add to it!
That's Pepa's perspective and HER truth only. There are multiple sides to this and somewhere in the middle is the truth. Y'all need to be impartial and bring Spinderella in for her perspective.
DJ or not. Spin is a part of the brand and the image. Spin is on the album covers with them as well. She's in the videos, and on a few songs rapping as well. Including the one they got a Grammy for.........why wouldn't she think she's part of the group🤷🏾♂️
Sir Jeff I definitely see you point. I just think that she should have requested a new contract way back when. God rest the dead but it’s just like Run Dmc did things w/o Jam Master Jay but it was always love. I see it both ways yet I do empathize with Spin.
Pepa is trying desperately to stay young and all her surgeries makes her look older and not very attractive. She is a naturally beautiful woman and needs to lay off the plastic surgeries.
I went str8 to the comments after reading the title.. I must say, "public opinion" can at times, BE BRUTAL. As if I was not thinking the same. However, be comfortable with yourselves ladies. Aging women are beautiful. Please, don’t allow anyone to say different.
She didn't start out with them..They added Her on..and kept Her with them for so long..Album after Album..and so on.. people saw Her as another Group Member..To fans She is as much a part of the group as the original two women are.
I only recognized her by her eyes and her voice... She was such a beautiful sister... Hollywood has really brainwashed our celebrities to carve their faces like a Christmas turkey 😡
It's not a lie the same thing she saying now is the same thing they discuss on they reality show spin mad cause she wanted to interviews with them but the people didn't want the Dj and she mad cause they didn't speak up for her when they did the people just didn't want her there so she like if we all can't get interviewed then none of should get interviewed now that's wrong they the group she not
@@wandaerving3065 nawh she's lying it's all about the money. If Pepa could successfully do shows without salt 🧂 she would and vice versa. Herbie who started the group paid those girls pennies. This is a case of the abused become the abuser.
My only problem with this is...I've heard Salt and Pepa say " Yes, Spin is the 3rd member of the group" However, it seems when it comes to the money, she's always reduced to "Ohh, you're just the Dj, and a hired employee!" Personally, I'm confused. So, I can understand why Spin, herself, has been as well. Not to mention, yes...they were "Salt n Pepa" before Spin came along. However, Spin came in before they ever had a video, or only 1, and before any publicity photos were circulating. And when they finally did get marketing/publicity photos...Spin was right there in the middle of the photo, being portrayed as a member of the group. And her image has been part of their brand ever since. And I take that back, the only marketing photo she wasn't in was the 1st album cover. Maybe, not there from day one, but definitely from beginning of when the world starting to know who Salt n Pepa was a hip hop/rap group. So much so...that I never knew she wasn't there there from the very beginning. I think Salt n Pepa helped to create this confusion by referring to her as, and promoting her as a the 3rd member!
Lesson for all ..It doesn't matter what it look like .What does the contract say ..Spin should have looked out for herself and got a lawyer to see where she stood once Herb got dismissed as it was Herb that brought her in ..The girls never liked her and never contracted with her ... Look out for yourself in business and in life
This is what all that "Racially Ambiguous" features get's you for a couple of thousand dollars hau? Damn... Looks like a cross between a possum and a Muskrat.
Well I thought Lonie would have said something to her because Loni was looking at her like b**** you look crazy and Loni had to drag the story out of her about the lawsuit did you pay attention to that?
@PrettyBrown... getouttahere. That's fitty? You made me fell off my high stool with that... FIFTY? You caught the side view? FIFTY??? Lordt, Chile; di plastic be meltin', then? FI'TY?
@Can I Live? she looks horrible, she ready to go to one of them hole in the wall clubs to listen to Bobby Rush, Lattimore, T.K Soul and the rest of them blues singers
Right, im so confused about what Spin wants. If she got paid, then move on. She never was all inclusive. I wish she could have DJ one of our parties. Thats how I see her as the DJ.
Some people don’t know how to use air quotes. I’ve seen Donald Trump use quotation marks wrong a lot in his tweets. Seems like they think quotation marks are used to add emphasis.
"Salt Pepa Spinderella came here to tell ya, let's get paid." One of their lyrics from their Let's Get Paid song..so if Spinderella wasn't a factor then why they kept letting her name get put all up in their lyrics..they full of shyt..i had mad respect for Salt N Pepa til they did this..and can't help but to wonder if there was a role Herbie played in for them to be doin Spin like that..make it make sense because i think there's more to what is being said which will all come to light soon..i hope Spin does her own biopic and do a tell all..the good bad and da ugly
The truth is, Spinderella is their DJ. She was not a member of the group. She was a HIRED DJ. I know most people see her as a Member like Salt and Pepa, but she isn’t. Period. She’s their DJ and they’re not obligated to bring her to all performances or interviews. She spit ONE verse that I remember on Whatta man. But she’s the DJ. 🤷🏽♀️
If she wrote she would get royalties..Unless Spin is completely stupid and really never looked out for herself .even now. Or she, in her haste, signed her ability to get royalties away to get hired by the group .Either way self accountability has to come in at some point . Would you work for anyone and not contractually know where you stood ? Sometimes a victim can be a coconspirator to their own downfall
Shady deals were made and that's the bottom line. They gave her 1.6 million, then because they knew she deserved it and her contract was poop! No one giving you that type of money for nothing, they were trying to keep her "satisfied" knowing good and well that contract wasnt right. Spin was young, and they took advantage of that. They never wanted a 3rd member, just a DJ. Business is business because they could have revised her contract if they really wanted to. Just my opinion, because I do see both sides as no one knew Spin etc, but did anyone know Michelle before Destiny's child - (another established group already) and Spin definitely contributed as a 3rd member, beyond being just a DJ so I do see why she left.
@@allthewayupnorth_8155 oh ok, she was a background singer-- nice! I dont know DJ Spin full background, but somebody had to know about her to secure a deal with Salt n Pepper. She definitely already had the skills so maybe she had her own buzz too. Either way, the deal was shady imo.
to those refuting the validity of Spins plight. she won, they settled with her, she DID write, rap/perform and produce in ADDITION to having her image/likeness used in videos and print❗
No. You have no proof. Mediation is closed and is not for public. The judge sent the case to mediation because it was probably open and close case. At least two interviews show salt and Pepa talking as if they are satisfied with the result. Spin on the other hand still seems disgruntled. She was mad for decades that she was not a legal third. But they hired her as an employee only and they have told her they were not making the group a trip for decades. Spin can go cry everyone a river. She just sounds spoiled and delusional like she thinks she has absolutely no value apart from being a legal third of the group. Her self esteem must the very low.
Queen Gina I agree. Her nose is different and so is her complexion (It has that gray undertone) but she is not unrecognizable and these comments are just hurtful and unnecessary.
Salt was dating herbie but her talent wasn't good enough solo, see he recruited two other members to make a group. A group I loved because it was all women. To see this foolery is embarrassing. There is no salt n pepa with Spinderella.
@@momimamissy6190 no. Herbie and salt were the original group. The vision was always for a rap group. Y'all just talk crazy and make stuff up just to be able to diminish somebody.
Why do ppl keep referring to the “real Spinderella” like Dee Dee Roper is not real? The original Spin was only on one album, and by the time she left the group hadn’t blown up yet... so for all intents and purposes Spinderella (Dee Dee) is the only Spin acknowledged! She’s the one on the album covers, performing on the award shows spitting verses and doing all the same choreography as SnP in the videos. She deserve respect!
Gtfoh she wasn't really nobody to be honest the group is known for salt and pepper not salt and pepper and spinderella.sue for what she really didn't do anything..salt and pepper really did her a favor because foreal they didn't need her.yall always giving credit for people who has done nothing
@@Cloud-iq2ub dang, you really sound ignorant. Don't matter what side you're on, you've gotta learn how to express yourself better than that... Or not.
Man, if somebody showed me this and told me it was Pepa, I wouldn’t believe them. On another note, this sounds like a private convo that shoulda stayed private.
ATTENTION: THE REAL.... NOW HAVE SPINDERELLA ON THE SHOW AND LET'S HEAR HER SIDE OF THE STORY OK
Yup but u know damn well they ain't gon do that!!
@@jmcfadden2051 uh huh
But they're so concerned about what really happened though 😔
U got tht right that's wut I hate about this one sided show!!
@Danielle McDonald so true. I never liked her anyway. She always gotta be extra extra!!! She always knows it all and her life story has to be better than everyone else!
Exactly
I'm a true Salt-N-Pepa fan and Spinderella was truly a member of the group. She played a vital role not just as a DJ but she danced, rapped and brought her energy to the group.
Not only that, Spinderella was 16 when she became the DJ. She spent the most important teenage years of her life touring
How dare them play Spindy off like she didn't exist ! Right on ! Magazine and Fresh Magazine ! She was the Fine es t.... In the Group...🤗
She got paid for her appearances. She didn't write, produce, or own anything....this is a business. You get paid for what you sign a contract for....sorry
@@JF-ru3jg From what I read she did produce several songs on their albums.
@lloydporchia7583 that again doesn't make her an equal member of the group. Producer credit meaning she made the record happen, not rap on it or ad lib. She was not an EP and still EPs don't make you an equal member contractually in a group. She signed contracts for the services she rendered. Cheryl and Sandy bought the rights to the group, name and future earnings from Herbie who actually started the group, he also wrote, produced hit records for them and he isn't going on and on about not being an equal member. People do not understand the record business they are in their feelings and don't read the contracts they sign.
The side view though😖 Black folks please leave plastic surgery alone. BLACK DON'T CRACK.
Black crack if you on crack....however everybody need to stop this bad plastic surgery stuff.
Hers did. That's why she got plastic surgery.
Drucella it’s not the “cracking” that drives these folks to go under the knife, it’s the self-hate of their natural phenotype that they wish to address by “buying” features deemed as more acceptable in today’s society at large. Non Sub Saharan features are often celebrated, especially “white” ones, whilst ours are shunned and associated with negative and embarrassing traits, oftentimes subtly in these days of political correctness. It’s a shame that many (like Pepe 😢) succumb to the mental torture of having a sub Saharan African phenotype in this world that values women on mostly / solely beauty (the “Western” type, that is). Look, regardless the situation, I guess most people will do whatever they believe is best to elevate themselves out of a perceived “lowly” position and unfortunately that means these DSBW who subscribe to current global standards of beauty will have to chop their faces up to achieve the “beauty” they covet.
Unless you smoke it.....CRACK
#amen #truth
She may not think she was in the group....but the fans did
I agree
Right but by contract Spin was on Herb contract when she was introduced to Salt n Pep had a pre-existing contract way before Spin came to the group but I feel you...
Exactly!!!
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I never thought she was in the group.. I always looked at her as the dj
They did Spin dirty. I don’t care what she talking about. That is foul. She is a big part of the group. It is not the same without her.
I always thought she was like the dj never saw her as part of the group!
@@kahleesaangelofthenight2895 right
@@kahleesaangelofthenight2895 djs are part of the group in hip hop,especially in that era.
Naw they did not do Spinderella right. Salt and pepper wanted the extra money.
Salt and Pepa didn't do anything. It more of bad management.
This sucks! Spinderella was a solid part of the group! She should have been everywhere Salt and Pepa were invited! Not cool!
She was just a Dj tho...
Clearly everyone doesn't see her as apart of the group. Stop blaming SnP. These ppl. know who they want to interview and who they don't.
ikr @resteachergirl..it wicked if you ask me
@@Idk-gy5gslol..yeah and.....Dj and apart of Salt n Peppa group...
sad but true, but Herby was greedy and even tried to not give Pepa any rights in the group, but Salt wouldn't have it. but with Spin she wasn't there from the beginning and Salt or Pepa didn't know her when she became a part of the group. so she was just an employee, sorry fans don't like it, but she wasn't on SNP level. she has no right to get what she truly wants. she went above and beyond her post and helped build the brand but just like a job if you're the drive-through window worker, why you back there flipping hamburgers? sometimes that can pay off, and the boss will upgrade you, but not always. she tried to do more but at the end of the day Salt and Pepa have the right to not give her a 3rd of the business. at the end of the day money talks, they not giving away their money when they don't have to. sorry. but they in the right legally, and any chance she had to get what she wanted was destroyed when she sued them. but good for her for getting her money from them 15 songs, but after sueing them you best believe they are some hard feelings, and this why she not in the movie much, many other people's images were in the movie, and they had no input as well or money. sad they couldn't work it out. they been going back and forth for over 10 years trust me, i use to keep up with everything from them. but Salt n Pepa probably sick of fighting over it. after Salt came right out and told her it wasn't going to happen, as well as Pepa said nobody coming in between her money. she doesn't have the legal right for what she is fighting for. the only thing she has a right to is them 15 songs and that's why they had a settlement to pay her off for that, because they made a mistake in not knowing they owed her for them songs she had verses on. sad but true. she gone for good the bridge is burnt down on both sides.
When venues wanted RUNDMC, they didn't exclude Jam Master J. They truly treated Spinderella like Cinderella.
Venues. When was she excluded from a venue.
True! 🙄 she lying wasn't nobody saying we only want you and salt(Salt & Pepa) leave your DJ at home🤦she wasn't there because they didn't want her there the respectful thing to do would of been to bring her and make the people show y'all "DJ" some love! She sound crazy I was born in 1986 and I grew up with my mom listening to them and I remember getting in trouble for singing Push it when I was little🤣 and I always remember Spin being a huge part I remember videos from the 90's album covers with spin.
@@lastnamerodgers3722 I have a question if you wasn't born how do you know. I'm a couple years younger than them and most of the time they would say Salt and Pepa when they did tv shows Salt and Pepa. The difference is run dmc and jam master J was friends big difference
Right
And what do you know of the three separate contracts for Run, DMC and Jam Master J?
Still can’t stand how they treated Spinderella on that reality show.
Pepa is so much into herself and has made her poor daughter that way. The show Hip Hop has really shown her true colors. Like mother like daughter. Spinderella actually had more talent then Salt & Pepa.And actually Salt was a way better rapper singer than Pepa will ever be. Spinderella spinned and sang and she danced with them and to leave her out is a disgrace in the upcoming movie.
She age herself. She look like she is turning to stone.
Absolutely terrible💀
Well she is 53
So am I. We both ran the same South Jamaica streets and she looks way older than me.
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😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
They treated Spin terrible on that reality show.
Yep
They sure did
Yeah I saw it. I couldn't believe it
Yes they did!
They really did. But people tend to forget that
Thank you, Loni, for keeping her on track because she was all over the place.
It’s the drugs.
I could not understand her either
... which made me believe she lying 🤥
Nah Pep. Don’t say she should have been on her job when it came to the deal. She was 16 when she joined.
then her parents, but how does it fall on them? it shouldnt.
I'm not being funny but other than being their DJ what was her responsibility? She didnt create content that was the producer. She didnt write rhymes that was Salt and pepper. Was she not paid as the DJ?
Coco T not to be funny but if you actually listened to Salt N Pepa. You would know that on some of their biggest songs she had a whole verse and actually rapped on the song. She also performed with them numerous of times with them and not behind turntables and she was in the videos. These are things a group member does not “just a dj”
Bruh that's even MORE of a reason for business to be thoroughly dealt with..
Messiah Black yeah but it was the 80s and she was young and hungry. She was trying to make some money and get in the game. Never did she know at the age of 16 what the future would hold and she probably didn’t have a support system to help guide her.
Imagine you make a whole lot of money as a group but you're supposed to be grateful for the "bread crumbs" they throw at you.
She could have been left and joined and got with another girl group but she didn't. Her fault.
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I still don't like what they did to her...but I agree on that part cuz knowing me...honey.... I wood have been gone.... found me a guy group to DJ for.. females just too much trouble.
A few million is bread crumbs?
Do y’all expect the background dancers and singers to make what Beyoncé or any other celebs make? If not, why expect her to make what they make? She’s always had a separate contract from them.
@@bobbybrown1002 don’t see any background dancers on Beyoncés album covers and merchandise either but Spin was. I’m aware that Spin had a separate contract with them. But S&P literally begged her to join the group and made her the “unofficial” 3rd member. “Employee contract” or not - don’t treat Spin like a sad charity you had mercy on. She was part of the success story. It’s not really about the money for me. Contracts are contracts. It’s about the treatment and the rhetoric. Do better.
This is why I'm confused cause the whole time I thought she was a member of the group. She was in all the videos, she was on album covers, she did live performances with them. Anybody old enough to remember Black Beat, Right On, Word Up and Vibe magazines know how all the posters and photos and articles written on them had the three of them, not two. They claim she was "just the DJ" but they practically used her as the third member of the group (whether it was them or the label, it still happened). Even though the group name is 'Salt-N-Peppa', they were marketed as a trio with Spin. Like Spin was saying about Run DMC, Jam Master J was "just a dj" but he was still considered a member of the group. I know SNP likely had a different kind of contract than Run DMC, but they were marketed as a trio and that's why most fans thought she was a legit member. For them to come out years later and say she was never a part of the group is confusing and low key manipulative. Spin might be right that girl groups were big in the 90s and the label, or whoever, wanted to promote them as a trio to keep up with the TLC's and SWV's of the industry. IMO Spin got done dirty no matter how you wanna "spin" it.
Exactly....I HAD the Word Up Magazines posters on my bedroom wall. I know she was part of the group. They Salt N Papa just always been salty and jealous.
She was just a DJ salt and Pepa was already a group before she came in the Picture
🥱 Darlings, THESE are rich people's problems. Be blessed! Good night or morning, wherever you are in the world.
She stopped being recognized as a full member in the late 90s when a record label offered a GIANT, BIG MONEY contract to the group. Cheryl & Sandy were quick to call her an employee as a way of not having to split the coin evenly. But the “signed Spin to the record label” that was a part of this big deal they signed with supposed plans for Spin to have a solo record. Then the SnP album flopped, the label went out of business and the group broke up for a half decade or so. Cheryl & Sandy have been cutting corners on Dee for DECADES! It’s a shame but it’s all about the money.
First album I owned was Very Necessary with Spin on the album cover. You can't tell me she had a big role in the group. Love these ladies regardless, but they did Spin dirty.
Run DMC would have never left Jam Master J off an interview or anything else they were just selfish.
FACT
Fact you can't mention Run DMC without saying Jam Master J
JMJ was contractually an actual member of the group.
@@MuSick23 The difference. What people aren't understanding, is that Salt & Pepa were/are the group! Spin was brought in with whatever deal/understanding she was given. She wasn't even the first Spin! Lol. You're coming into something that was already established. You're not a founding member. It's not gonna be even.
You are correct because Run DMC and Jam Master was always together from the beginning. Also back during that time, men had a stronger voice in the industry. With Salt-Pepper, and Spinderella, they had to do what they were told to do because MEN were the head of the industry.
It’s a shame I can’t concentrate on her story because I’m looking at her face... bless her heart. I still love them!
Lol
Man, I hate to agree, but suddenly she looks a LOT older. They JUST had that little reality show not too too long ago, and she didn't look like that. I was listening, but also looking, like wait...what happened??
Could it be drugs?
I know. She had a nice face to begin with, I don't understand why she did this to herself.
A lot of drugs & funeral make up
she looks so different. i didnt recognize her
Pep look like a drag queen
Me neither
Cute knew look
Plastic surgery honey!
Harpo, who dis woman?
They achieved their highest success with Spinderells but dissed her the whole type she was with them. Jealousy played a huge part of that
She talking bout money they shared wit her, she worked for that money. She sounds crazy. She was not their slave.
If she was brought in with someone else under another contract that did not have anything to do with Salt and pepper, Then yes its called Sharing. Her contract was not their business, perhaps they most likely did not even know what she was or was not making. ijs It was not their responsibility to distribute her money. 1. whatever million she said was a nice gesture in my opinion.
But contractually they didn't have to give her nothing. Is what she was saying
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@@LifeDesignCLT they weren't supposed to. Spin originally made more than SnP because her contact was bundled with Herb's paperwork and he WAS the group. Spin didn't create her character...herb did and she's not even the original Spin, proving the role is replaceable. If fans understood contracts, s lot wouldn't be half as upset
@@idome1524 when they sued Herbie she wasn't even included tho
Pep looks...
She was beautiful without the work
Same thing I said, she looks like a muppet now. U can tell she has had ahhhhhlooooot work
@@marchshowers5364 and it seems to be "drooping or something"
without the bleach
She looks like a old ass drunk
Prophecy Jackson 🤣🤣🤣
Why Pep...whyyy? Insecurities are real 😩
You should see her up close 😬
@Rene R. i don't see the problem either besides the wig she looks good to me🤷🏾♀️
Rene R. Not the point! She was beautiful before the work and still could have lost weight.... as a black woman it saddens me to see so many iconic queens Turing into weirdos because of a European standard of beauty. No one is hating on pep we hate what she did to her face ... just like Michael Jackson. That was a HANDSOME BLACK MAN.... he destroyed his face and was never the same!
EI84 Ashlee exactly !!! Same point I just made... like come on sis... no one hating and we see her with the same two eyes. Pep is iconic and was BEAUTIFUL THE WAY SHE WAS. She looks like all the rest now that have had that weird nose job done.
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She has NEVER been able to get those wigs right 😬
Ok, i have to agree with that, i always thought it was just me thinking that. I dont know what goes through her mind when wearing weaves and wigs, its always either to much hair or to over the top, looking crazy, im sorry but im a hair fanatic, its always the first thing i notice.
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Tamiko Bridges girl I came in her to say the same. From the cut to the color it's all wrong. I hope spin win her case because they did her wrong so unloyal
She always looks like a cray cray clown..something is definitely off.
Now.... That's the God Honest Truth😂😂😂
Who in the hell was asking to see Salt n Pepa and not expect Spinderella to be there ?Thats like asking for RUN DMC and dying Jam Master Jay couldn’t come and they would’ve never did Jay that way
Exactly like all heard was excuses...girl bye...just say you didn’t want her a part of projects and call it a day. These excuses are horrible.
Fact! Because if they want you so bad then they would accept your terms but you was like I’m doing this with our without her
RIGHT!!!
Yep Cheryl and Sandy could’ve easily protested any opportunities done without Spinderella. I guess they didn’t want to divide that check three ways. It all boils down to money. Sandy got her plastic surgery and Cheryl got her lipo.
STOP comparing the two groups!!! Jam Master is the ORIGINAL group member + family! Spinderella is NOT! Salt N Pep had no dealings with her! Did you not hear what she said! Spinderella didn't make that group nor add to it!
Pepa looking like Flame Monroe
She do! Lol
They did Spin WRONG on that BET show. You can tell they never wanted her around and it’s sad
She got this Dolly Parton Joan Rivers thing going on I see..
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squareteam88 Dolly Parton Joan rivers sent me 😩😂😂
And she not even that old. She ruined herself
She looks crazy yo . Got more done than the verrazzano Bridge and still looks awful.
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What the Ragedy Anne did she do to herself?? Pepa 😢😢😢
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😂😂😂 I didn't even recognize her
That just took me out😂😂😂😂😂
DEAD
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That's Pepa's perspective and HER truth only. There are multiple sides to this and somewhere in the middle is the truth. Y'all need to be impartial and bring Spinderella in for her perspective.
That woman ruined her FACE 😣
She starting to look like LaToya Jackson.
Agreed
And Jenifer Lewis from Blackish
FACTZ,...
DJ or not. Spin is a part of the brand and the image. Spin is on the album covers with them as well. She's in the videos, and on a few songs rapping as well. Including the one they got a Grammy for.........why wouldn't she think she's part of the group🤷🏾♂️
Sir Jeff that sounds nice... but that’s not how the music industry works. What song did Spinderella write or produce?
@@jmoore5642 her verses on Whatta Man & None of your business.
Sir Jeff I definitely see you point. I just think that she should have requested a new contract way back when. God rest the dead but it’s just like Run Dmc did things w/o Jam Master Jay but it was always love. I see it both ways yet I do empathize with Spin.
Sir Jeff if you watched the reality show, she got paid for that. They don’t owe her anything
And she was also a ghost writer Spinderella co-wrote and co-produced alot of their music
Pepa is trying desperately to stay young and all her surgeries makes her look older and not very attractive. She is a naturally beautiful woman and needs to lay off the plastic surgeries.
Ain't nothing was neva pretty about her. Jmo
@Dimaf Dee,I Totally Agree..Some of the Celeberties get so carried away with all those different plastic surgeries
Pep is about to get mistaken for a Drag Queen like Nene Leakes just did in Miami 🤣
@Rodney Norman Nene was recently at a Drag show in South Beach . A few of the guys thought she was one of the popular performers and was fanning out 🤣
@@melvinpruitt3907 Not Tracey Mcgrady 🤣💀💀
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That's what she gets for going there. She looks just like one. 😂
Hope she wasn't mad about it! 😂
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I went str8 to the comments after reading the title.. I must say, "public opinion" can at times, BE BRUTAL. As if I was not thinking the same. However, be comfortable with yourselves ladies. Aging women are beautiful. Please, don’t allow anyone to say different.
She didn't start out with them..They added Her on..and kept Her with them for so long..Album after Album..and so on.. people saw Her as another Group Member..To fans She is as much a part of the group as the original two women are.
You're speaking the TRUTH!!!
that first nose job...she still looked like herself..this last nose job..she looks like a whole different person..she low key look draggish...
I only recognized her by her eyes and her voice... She was such a beautiful sister... Hollywood has really brainwashed our celebrities to carve their faces like a Christmas turkey 😡
Truth!
She looks awful 😞
It sounds like she is lying 🤷🏾♀️. When you have to do all this talking to answer one question .... There is BS on the line.
that's why Lonie said what she said to get the truth out of her because she was going all around the mulberry bush with that lie.
Exactly!
Exactly along with all that hands and arms moving.
It's not a lie the same thing she saying now is the same thing they discuss on they reality show spin mad cause she wanted to interviews with them but the people didn't want the Dj and she mad cause they didn't speak up for her when they did the people just didn't want her there so she like if we all can't get interviewed then none of should get interviewed now that's wrong they the group she not
@@wandaerving3065 nawh she's lying it's all about the money. If Pepa could successfully do shows without salt 🧂 she would and vice versa. Herbie who started the group paid those girls pennies. This is a case of the abused become the abuser.
Omg she looks like Skeletor with a Ronald Mcdonald wig on!
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My only problem with this is...I've heard Salt and Pepa say " Yes, Spin is the 3rd member of the group" However, it seems when it comes to the money, she's always reduced to "Ohh, you're just the Dj, and a hired employee!" Personally, I'm confused. So, I can understand why Spin, herself, has been as well. Not to mention, yes...they were "Salt n Pepa" before Spin came along. However, Spin came in before they ever had a video, or only 1, and before any publicity photos were circulating. And when they finally did get marketing/publicity photos...Spin was right there in the middle of the photo, being portrayed as a member of the group. And her image has been part of their brand ever since. And I take that back, the only marketing photo she wasn't in was the 1st album cover. Maybe, not there from day one, but definitely from beginning of when the world starting to know who Salt n Pepa was a hip hop/rap group. So much so...that I never knew she wasn't there there from the very beginning. I think Salt n Pepa helped to create this confusion by referring to her as, and promoting her as a the 3rd member!
Lesson for all ..It doesn't matter what it look like .What does the contract say ..Spin should have looked out for herself and got a lawyer to see where she stood once Herb got dismissed as it was Herb that brought her in ..The girls never liked her and never contracted with her ... Look out for yourself in business and in life
@@aliciastalksessionsKeep in mind, Spin was a teenager (16 years old I think) when she got into the group
Pepa looks she been sniffing that salt
I'm sorry but that was hilarious! Haaaaa! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lol
What the bride of chucky is going on with her face tho 😩🤔🤦🏾♀️
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When trying to stay young and relevant goes wrong.....Peppa!
Peppa Look bold and seemed like she was high off something smh
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Horribly wrong...lol!
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Who does Loni Love think she is she's always being so judgemental
Pepaaaaa, Noooooo , She looks Horribleeee....Surgery gone bad girl.....🤦🏽♀️OmfG!
She needs to take off that Reddish orange wig, and too much makeup
That's an old tired wig
It's making me think of the Red Queen on Alice in Wonderland. "Off with her head"!
Jones Chandra she was so pretty back in the day.... I’ll leave it at that!
Lol
Yep, she tooooooo old
I Would Be Mad Too.... If They Ask For Salt-N-Pepa why don’t y’all petition to include her🤔
They talked about that on the Bet reality show...they were just acting really uppity. It was sad to watch
She looking real bad... that wig just awful look.
She's looking like the transgender version of herself 😩🤦🏾♀️
Lawd, I just want to snatch that thing from her head.😆
She's a beautiful woman, it's the mascara and red wig.
She does...🥺
Bad friends letting folks go on TV like Jessica rabbit on drugs
Salt and pep went to her mother to ask if spinderella could be part of the group she was under age.
And her pastor.... they should be ashamed of themselves smh
Pep over there looking like Lucille Ball. Still love her tho
Do Pep and Lil Kim have the same plastic surgeon, cuz they both need to sue immediately. There was nothing wrong to begin with🙄
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I think they do each other's plastic surgery...
Mispsun Dee 🤣🤣🤣🤣
She looks terrible she was so pretty back in the day
I totally agree
I blame Treach.....all that domestic abuse messed sista up,an the surgeries not helping.But she still a Queen
This is what all that "Racially Ambiguous" features get's you
for a couple of thousand dollars hau? Damn...
Looks like a cross between a possum and a Muskrat.
Kiarra Howliet Nah she wasn't never "so" pretty even back in the day but ok! Lmao
Cortez Armstrong lmaoooo I see you big mad so is ya mama
𝑆𝑜𝑟𝑟𝑦 but “peppa” look smoked df out.
She looked and sounded like she’s on speed. Maybe it’s just some strong ass diet pills (which is just legal speed like Adderall.)
Dude, I cannot believe she did that to her face. I’m in utter disbelief
Me too. I don't even recognize her.
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Because she's a man look at her shoulders
Boy pepa was so beautiful back in da day.
We need to start posting under these young celebrities comment telling them to say no to surgery....this is getting out of hand
Well I thought Lonie would have said something to her because Loni was looking at her like b**** you look crazy and Loni had to drag the story out of her about the lawsuit did you pay attention to that?
Or mind your business
Pep must have gotten a referral to Lil Kims plastic surgeon. She looks horrible.
That's what I said
She looks exactly like the Whitney Houston's druggy version lol
Like a crazy man in a crazy looking wig
@@camprich6768 She does look a mess!
@@mumalisablackgold5738 Yes I said the same thing.
That was Pepa talking?! 😳
@@camelabell3140 Girl yes!
Back then MOST RAP groups had a dj. That was the trend...
And the women of The Real took the bait... Hook, line and sinker
I sat through this and don't know what the HELL she's talkin' bout! Ha. Talkin loud and fast doesn't help either.
Peppa that's a hard 50 you should have left your face alone!
Ill be 50 next year and Errrybody says i look like im in my 30's
@PrettyBrown... getouttahere. That's fitty? You made me fell off my high stool with that... FIFTY? You caught the side view? FIFTY??? Lordt, Chile; di plastic be meltin', then? FI'TY?
@@Hotlipsc Yes that's fifty LOL...
She looks like all she does is drink, smoke Newports, and play spades all day
Looks like she dipping in that snow too
@@stepdbull2941 true
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@Can I Live? she looks horrible, she ready to go to one of them hole in the wall clubs to listen to Bobby Rush, Lattimore, T.K Soul and the rest of them blues singers
@@vikkicarr3255 that wig look like the one they buried Mrs Luella Bell Watson in
I dont know what the beef is. What I do know is growing up Spin was my favorite!!!! Still is...ijs
She's the only one that looks naturally "light skinded." LMBO
I want ALL black Queens To love themselves. No adjustments needed!!! 👸🏾
I did not recognize her. Pepa! Honey ! Oh no! Back to the subject at hand, Spin was a part of the group. Period.
Salt N Pepa and Spin are Legends in Hip-Hop.... I hope they work this out and find peace in the end.
Right, im so confused about what Spin wants. If she got paid, then move on. She never was all inclusive. I wish she could have DJ one of our parties. Thats how I see her as the DJ.
Why did she place, God's Honest Truth in quotes.... makes me think she lying.
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I too said what up w the air quotes.
Some people don’t know how to use air quotes. I’ve seen Donald Trump use quotation marks wrong a lot in his tweets. Seems like they think quotation marks are used to add emphasis.
Exaactly what i was thinking
All that plastic surgery
Lonnie ain't loss 1 pound yet lol
omg I didn't recognise pepa😮
I had to click to see if this was really Pepa.
@@sheilaeason1190 Lol!! Right.
She's now "Light skinded." LMBO
"Salt Pepa Spinderella came here to tell ya, let's get paid." One of their lyrics from their Let's Get Paid song..so if Spinderella wasn't a factor then why they kept letting her name get put all up in their lyrics..they full of shyt..i had mad respect for Salt N Pepa til they did this..and can't help but to wonder if there was a role Herbie played in for them to be doin Spin like that..make it make sense because i think there's more to what is being said which will all come to light soon..i hope Spin does her own biopic and do a tell all..the good bad and da ugly
One of they're lyrics LITERALLY MENTIONED Spinderella! And they want to discredit her? SO SAD
Fr! I remember that cassette😂 “Do you want to, Get paid, Get paid”
She looks like a burned victim that got plastic surgery geesh god bless her.
Perfect description!!
When I think of SNP, I always include Spin. She was on every album cover -1. Pep stop
It's not clarified. Spin needs to be invited on the show to explain her side. Adrienne stop being on one side until you get all sides
As the old folks say...its always 3 sides. Yours, theirs, and the truth.
Salt told her prespective. If Spin wants to say hers then she needs to have her managment contact the show and book her.
Agreed.I'm with spin on this one.
Spin always shrinks up when asked especially when Salt puts it out there to her.
Shon right! Adrienne is always doing that but it’s bc of how biased she is. Look how her group treated Naturi
The truth is, Spinderella is their DJ. She was not a member of the group. She was a HIRED DJ. I know most people see her as a Member like Salt and Pepa, but she isn’t. Period. She’s their DJ and they’re not obligated to bring her to all performances or interviews. She spit ONE verse that I remember on Whatta man. But she’s the DJ. 🤷🏽♀️
MsFears and she’s not the Real Spinderella there was one before her.
She probably felt like a member because there were a lot the photo shoots as a trio. I hope it works out for all involved.🙏🏽
Right! And who wants to split their check 3 ways as an already aging rap group?
Mz. Tee Lew Feeling like a member and being a member are two different things. We love her, but it is what it is.
Exactly how may entertainers have a DJ that they pay for
But spinderella been in the group 20+ years and has written and rapped songs. Why can’t we split the money even ?
what did she write? I'm sure she was compensated if she did write something?
If she wrote she would get royalties..Unless Spin is completely stupid and really never looked out for herself .even now. Or she, in her haste, signed her ability to get royalties away to get hired by the group .Either way self accountability has to come in at some point . Would you work for anyone and not contractually know where you stood ? Sometimes a victim can be a coconspirator to their own downfall
They shitted on spin. That’s the truth.
How?
I’m like nene and sheree at this moment“ honey fix that face”
But Nene don't have no room to talk abt nobody fixin their face..look at hers....
Dear Black Queens -Do what works for you...just know that what God gave you, was made for you! ♥️👑💫
Pep
I'm not feeling the strange facial elasticity.😔
I think how they treating Spinderella has settled in Peppa's face!
Shady deals were made and that's the bottom line. They gave her 1.6 million, then because they knew she deserved it and her contract was poop! No one giving you that type of money for nothing, they were trying to keep her "satisfied" knowing good and well that contract wasnt right. Spin was young, and they took advantage of that. They never wanted a 3rd member, just a DJ. Business is business because they could have revised her contract if they really wanted to. Just my opinion, because I do see both sides as no one knew Spin etc, but did anyone know Michelle before Destiny's child - (another established group already) and Spin definitely contributed as a 3rd member, beyond being just a DJ so I do see why she left.
Actually Michelle used to sing back up for Monica and several others so she was known in the industry.
@@allthewayupnorth_8155 oh ok, she was a background singer-- nice! I dont know DJ Spin full background, but somebody had to know about her to secure a deal with Salt n Pepper. She definitely already had the skills so maybe she had her own buzz too. Either way, the deal was shady imo.
Yup, they cheated her! Who in the Hell is going to give anyone, one point six million dollars, for nothing?
They should still include 🌀 spin seems so wrong
What happened to Pepa face she doesn’t look the same at all.
Drug
Y'all should include her in every appearance. She is apart of the group.
The tv shows know who they want on their show.
She is not a art of the group is what they are saying! It was a contract
I was like where's Pepa? Took me a while to realize it was her talking, damn...😬😬😬
Pep look like a black Lucille Ball here lmao
LMFAO! Bruh
Omg that red mop on her head I can’t
to those refuting the validity of Spins plight. she won, they settled with her, she DID write, rap/perform and produce in ADDITION to having her image/likeness used in videos and print❗
No. You have no proof. Mediation is closed and is not for public. The judge sent the case to mediation because it was probably open and close case. At least two interviews show salt and Pepa talking as if they are satisfied with the result. Spin on the other hand still seems disgruntled. She was mad for decades that she was not a legal third. But they hired her as an employee only and they have told her they were not making the group a trip for decades. Spin can go cry everyone a river. She just sounds spoiled and delusional like she thinks she has absolutely no value apart from being a legal third of the group. Her self esteem must the very low.
People act like people never can age.She like 50.She looks good enough.Only thing she needs is a better makeup artist.
Queen Gina I agree. Her nose is different and so is her complexion (It has that gray undertone) but she is not unrecognizable and these comments are just hurtful and unnecessary.
U should never try to perfect what God has created. It'll fail everytime. Wow. Pepa
WTF is on Pep’s head???? 😳👀 Sis is looking crazy.
Let’s be clear: Salt was the original group member
Yes and she was going with Herbie.
Salt was dating herbie but her talent wasn't good enough solo, see he recruited two other members to make a group. A group I loved because it was all women. To see this foolery is embarrassing. There is no salt n pepa with Spinderella.
@@momimamissy6190 no. Herbie and salt were the original group. The vision was always for a rap group. Y'all just talk crazy and make stuff up just to be able to diminish somebody.
Why do ppl keep referring to the “real Spinderella” like Dee Dee Roper is not real? The original Spin was only on one album, and by the time she left the group hadn’t blown up yet... so for all intents and purposes Spinderella (Dee Dee) is the only Spin acknowledged! She’s the one on the album covers, performing on the award shows spitting verses and doing all the same choreography as SnP in the videos. She deserve respect!
Gtfoh she wasn't really nobody to be honest the group is known for salt and pepper not salt and pepper and spinderella.sue for what she really didn't do anything..salt and pepper really did her a favor because foreal they didn't need her.yall always giving credit for people who has done nothing
@@Cloud-iq2ub dang, you really sound ignorant. Don't matter what side you're on, you've gotta learn how to express yourself better than that... Or not.
@Guess Who That's Larry Dodson. Otherwise, that was a good take.
Salt said in their song that
Spinderella is her turn table Trooper.
Pepa plastic surgery has that tales of the crypt thing going on 😬
Man, if somebody showed me this and told me it was Pepa, I wouldn’t believe them.
On another note, this sounds like a private convo that shoulda stayed private.
Pepa's Daughter Egypt is Really Cute, Like Her Personality Too.
Damn she look different af she must've got the low budget lil kim package!
WTF, WHY ARE WE SO SELF HATING AND DONT RECOGNIZE OUR TRUE BEAUTY! JUST MESSED UP HER FACE. WOMEN LOVE YOUR SELF, BE HAPPY
When surgery goes wrong.smh
So Pep's plastic surgeon decided to make her look like Lucille Ball.🤔
Yes! 🤣... this look is horrible. Looks like she lost too much weight too. The makeup and wig are atrocious
Well, damn.
Lol