For those struggling with same sex attraction, it is one of many sexual issues. I struggled with lust and adultery, I asked the Holy Spirit to show me the root of my affliction and help me dig it up. If you believe these feelings or urges never go away, then something is impossible for God. We often justify sin, thoughts and actions, thinking sin won’t let us go. Sin cannot be justified and must be dug up at the root. Our God has overcome the world and it’s ways. And remembering his grace is sufficient means your freedom may be a battle won with God's help.
Personally, I was attracted to the same sex at one point. I never acted on it but the thought was there. And then, I began to ask God questions about myself - How I ended up where I was as a single woman. I had a situation where I was at an old friend’s house making food for a party. A masculine woman who was gay asked me had I ever - if I had some or thought about it. I told her simply, yes. I thought about it and I had opportunities to explore it but when it got down to it, I chose not. I came to the conclusion that I knew the curiosity stemmed from what happened to me at the age of 5 by a 10 year old girl at my school. After that, the thoughts didn’t have room in my mind anymore because I chose to get to the root of- instead of opening the door to the lust. I am 100% heterosexual woman. I see the beauty in what God created between man and woman (family) which is why satan fights it so hard.
When I was in school, not many people were attracted to the same sex. Now 99% of kids are. I think that points to how entertainment influences people. I don't think people really understand what they feel and are pushed every time the wind blows.
I think its best not to excuse any sinful grounds but confess them and repent. We're not make ourselves look good before God no matter what, only God can clean us.
I agree. Even though its clearly a sin, its still good to understand it and why people do it. Like my aunt who is gay now. She dated a lot of bad men and eventually got depressed and married a woman. I can totally understand her wanting to feel loved, and I don't demonize her, but I also won't tell her its a good thing. I just try to love her
The attraction is the result of a fallen, sinful nature. But the attraction in and of itself is not a sin. I’ve known people who hated their same-sex attraction and loved the Lord. This meant committing their attraction to Christ daily - to ask for help, and for forgiveness for any lustful thoughts they have due to this attraction. God, can and will, deliver. But to think one cannot struggle in this area and still be saved is unbiblical. That said, being a practicing homosexual is a sin. 1 John 3:7-10 makes this abundantly clear. The ESV notes “the practice of sin.” Attractions are not something one practices; lusts and homosexual acts are.
Y’all gonna quit playing with me. Get truly attracted to the Word of God and the answer will come to with great ease. Quit using the Word for foolishness. Remember, one day “every knee will bow and every tongue will confess
Can you prove how your God came into being And do not say God always was or the Bible says Everything has a beginning Prove the beginning of God and where God came from
Desire to sin is also sin. Jesus doesn't want a bunch of people fantasizing about defying His wishes, restrained from doing the evil that is in their hearts. We all need to shape our actions towards righteousness, but also pray to shape our hearts and minds to it as well.
James 1:14-15 I believe weighs in on this issue: "But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed. Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death." So yes, while homosexual behaviours and activities are sinful, the desire or inclination towards such a sin can lead itself to giving in to the act, so the attraction over the same sex has to be fought against and prayed against as a believer.
I’m gay and still attracted to men but yet I have an acted on it in 16 years. It’s not hard. But it doesn’t mean that that temptation just automatically goes away. It’s part of our fallen flesh.
Of course, but the important thing is that you always resist the temptation and never give into it. That's the key thing to remember. I have thoughts that come into my mind that are wicked, but I do battle with them and pray that the Lord would help me to sin less and less and grow more and more in righteousness and holiness.@@Sirach144
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As a same sex attracted Christian who is saved I can say these feelings don’t go away. Having them go away, isn’t proof of salvation. A lot of times we’re gonna struggle with it.
Our problem is simply that in our unredeemed life our inner self,our spirit,was united to the self-loving spirit of Satan. As a consequence,we followed the desire of soul and body. When our bodies stimulated appetites in us, we gratified them. When our souls stirred up pride or dislike of this or hate of that or love of that- we just followed them. We were governed by our souls and bodies.
Shalom man of God and many blessings to you and to your beautiful wife and families (personal/ministries). You spoke the truth man of God. And I can see why the pastor in this clip went in that direction, but it does help when we see the process of a "thought" in a better light. You were on to something when you compared a thought to a "seed." Because thoughts do carry that activity. This is why The Most High God stresses the importance of casting down imaginations and bringing thoughts into captivity that contradict His Word (2 Corinthians 10:5). All a thought needs is "soil." The mind, heart, spirit, and soul act as "soil." Because our internal make up is built to function under the system of reproduction (spiritually and naturally). And when we do not deal with ungodly thoughts right away, they can end up reproducing a nature and behavior pattern within us that can go against our design in The Most High's image. This is why it is vitally important for believers to war against ungodly thoughts. To have a thought that entertains same sex attraction is an ungodly perception. That thought alone unveils the reality of the fallen nature. We are originally designed to think like The Most High God. If He does not entertain thoughts about same sex attraction, we are accountable for upholding the same mindset. Ungodly thoughts can hinder how we see the value of the human soul and the holiness of The Most High's image. This is why the regeneration process is necessary, vital, and required in this walk. Without the regeneration process our thought life will remain in a corrupt and contaminated state. We cannot reflect the beauty of The Most High's holiness with a mind that is bound to the fallen nature. It is important to take the mind through a real purification process with The Word of God and through a real relationship with The Holy Spirit. It is The Holy Spirit that helps us and teaches us how to conquer the mind that is carnal and fallen. God Bless you man of God and thank you for sharing this video. Shalom unto you and to your beautiful wife and families.
Any sexual attraction outside the confines of marriage is technically sin. The question is are you praying about it or are you willfully feeding the desire and allowing it to fester and grow in your heart.
That was my question below. What is attraction exactly? Is it lust or what? Or is attraction for the opposite sex a feeling that you have to keep tight reigns on so it doesn't become lust (outside of marriage)?
I say that because I know God put in us a natural desire the opposite sex so we can procreate. I guess we just gotta reign it in with help of the holy Spirit so we don't sin
@@tic8259Jesus tells us in Matthew 5:28-29 that if you look upon a woman to lust after her you’ve already committed adultery. Yes God gave us attraction to the opposite sex for procreation, but the design was for the confines of marriage. That being said.. we all sin and fall short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23)
@tic8259 Yes, it can be a battle. When I watch movies, sometimes they have nudity and doesn't bother me, but as soon as Im looking for nudity, my intentions are for lust
It's not a sin to be attracted to someone or something. The sin comes in once lust develops and then is acted on. However it is not natural to be attracted to the same sex. That attraction is the result of sin passed down through Adam. Our flesh will continue to desire It's cravings. We must conform our minds to God's Word over any thoughts or feelings that opposes it.
Lust is bending of the mind mentally to get/seek after the satisfy attraction . When the thought becomes lust,the ONLY THING that stops from following through with the act is the OPPORTUNITY not presenting itself
1 John 2:16 "For all that is in the world-the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride of life[a]-is not from the Father but is from the world.". It's about what you give your attention to. Matthew 6:22-23 “The eye is the lamp of the body. So, if your eye is healthy, your whole body will be full of light, but if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light in you is darkness, how great is the darkness!".
Thank you for this. This is specifically my struggle and I came to the same conclusion myself. I will say I think attraction and lust are two different things as well. Believe me or not but I dont have sexual thoughts about everyone I find attractive. To those who argue the attraction itself is sinful, I dont seek to change your minds but do be mindful of how u come across and the affect u may have. I've unfortunately committed the act, due to my lack of understanding on this subject. I cant say for sure that I never would have given in had I not equated the attraction to sin. But I can say that being convinced that the attraction was a sin that I was already involuntarily committing produced hopelessness and a mindset that I may as well go all the way since I was incapable of completely eradicating the attraction. Whereas today I find it much easier to acknowledge my attraction and move on.
I don't say this to challenge your beliefs on sin, but only to give insight that you don't speak in a way that would cause someone like me to stumble. Because to be 100% transparent reading some of the comments does remind me of the same hopelessness I felt before. And to those who will say I shouldve prayed more or trusted God more and etc. Of course I prayed about it, cried to God about it, and to give perspective it took years of struggling with the attraction before I ever acted on it, and I even resisted multiple opportunities. So just be careful not to place an unbearable yoke on your brethren
You can know the feeling itself is sinful and know you can’t stop it by yourself only God and that you shouldn’t go an do it an go all the way with it.
You "eradicate" the error by starving it. It's quite simple. The pontificating is just a means of self justification. You don't sit with the thought, you acknowledge it's wrong and pull it down immediately. People who constantly struggle in this department usually do not have firm resolve to deny themselves or have so endulged in the lifestyle so as to have created deep roots within them. Hopelessness and self pity is not the answer. Self denial is. Casting down thoughts is. Closing doors and removing yourself from tempting environments is. Fear of God's judgement and knowledge of God's ability to give you freedom.. is the answer. The question really is... Will thou be made whole? Do you really want to be set free?
@@OneSweetDay489 A preacher once said you can't control a bird flying over your nest but you can keep it from roosting there. We can't control the evil thoughts the enemy gives us but we can control dwelling or acting on them. But of course with God's help.
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I'm sexually attracted to both men and women. In other words I am bisexual. I have not acted on it. I do want to marry and have a family. The only way I can do this is to never tell the woman who will become my wife. No woman will ever accept me. It doesn't matter that I would be monogamous.
The issue is consecration...if you for example were an alcoholic and God set you free from alcohol but as a Christian you keep frequenting places that have alcohol or around alcohol ..if this goes on for a long while somewhere demon spirjts that around that scene will see you as fair game and try to stir those things in you for alcohol that God deadened ...so in sexual sin ...if God delivered you from sexual perversion homosexuality included but you keep watching wordly movies and music and you are on Facebook and Instagram where there is a lot of half naked men and women pictures ..somewhere you will awaken that thing that God silenced in you when you got saved ....so being saved does not mean you are technically saved in that you still can fall back into sin ...as long as you are in this world you will have to battle to keep the mind of Christ alive in you ..we get technically saved the day we die and we cast off this sinful flesh and go to heaven ..but while on earth you have to be careful .but if you are careless with your Christianity and don't understand that their are boundaries you cannot cross as a Christian..you will eventually fall back into that sin . inotherwards the desires in you will be stronger according to what you feed on ...if you keep feeding the flesh ...that flesh will grow stronger but if you feed on the things of God ..bible ,prayer ,living clean and judging rhings ..you will grow stronger in the spirit ... inotherwards God has saved you as a born again Christian from sinful desires but it's your responsibility to keep those sinful desires in check or dead by what you chose to feed on
What is attraction? And sexual attraction specifically? Is it lust? If it is lust then yes same sex or any sexual attraction outside of marriage is sin. I do believe the Scripture in Hebrews 4:14-16 that talks about Jesus being tempted but without sin. Hebrews 2:18 says (paraphrasing) that since Jesus suffered while being tempted, He is also able to help us during our temptation. Soooo...honest question, does attraction count as temptation if you can say you are not lusting during your attraction (same sex or opposite sex)? Edit: Same sex attraction is not God's normal though; however, it is a "fleshly" struggle for some Christians. The ACT of same sex lust and sex is sinful.
God did not leave us without a remedy, in more places than one in Scripture we're reminded that we are in a spiritual battle against the evil one. Those evil desires come from Satan, and they may arouse within us the sin nature that we are all prone to due to the fall. So whether it be same sex attraction, or lusting after people or things, we need to call upon the Lord, and ask Him to help us to mortify and abstain from those sinful lust which war and rage against our Soul. God will help us....even to conquer the battle that may take place in our mind. Thoughts attractions and sinful lusts can be reigned in and eventually abandoned.
I did not see the word effeminate in the NASB 2020 translation. Why did some translations they take it out? Some translations say those who make woman of themselves and another says "nor male prostitutes. Just curious as to why some took it out?
Praise Him, Praise Him. I watch and listen to pastor Jennings as well as you I think you'll get the same meaning out of the Bible the same some I think youll might see it different sometimes. I haven't heard nether if yall having an isue of same sex relationships is ungodly! It's plain as day homosexuality is a sin no different that covet or adultery. What gets me more than people practicing a homosexual lifestyle is they think it's not a sin. My uncle is bisexual and will tell you in a second "if im going to live for God I cant mess with men." Its plain as day. Thank you.
The argument can be made that all homosexuals at one time only had a same sex attraction. So why would he lead anyone to believe that it’s okay to harbor that attraction without acting on it. Is it okay to plot to murder someone as long as you don’t act on it? I believe that harboring ungodly thoughts is a sin. Yes as Christians we can think sinful thoughts but once you recognize that thought as being ungodly through the power of prayer we ask God to rid us of such thoughts.
Let me clarify. As a same sex attracted Christian: I DO NOT want to have sex with another woman, I also do not have sexual thoughts with them. As a matter of fact, I don't like sex at all. I am only emotionally and mentally attracted to women and I appreciate their physical beauty: eyes, smile, hair etc. I don't think this is sinful as long as I don't get into a Marriage or have sex with them, it is my fallen tendency and fight every day but I deeply love someone who has a friend label... I know that I love her more than other friends and I find her beautiful inside out.
The Attraction is not Sinful in and of itself But The Sexual Act Itself is Sinful plus if it's Sexual it will likely be Lustful and Jesus Stated that If You look at a Woman Lustfully You and Her have already Committed Lust in Your Heart if The Attraction is Lust based it is Sinful.
For me I can totally understand why the gay thing is a tough subject. For example, my aunt only dated black men and after getting cheated on, emotionally abused, and other things, she started dating black woman and married one. Im no gay, so its clearly a sin to me, but I can understand when people get rejected by the opposite sex enough, they just want someone to love on. With my aunt, she is married with kids and if she decided it was a sin, she'd have to abandon a family. Its still wrong and its affected her views(liberalism can be demonic) I've also had gay friends that know what I believe but I don't force it or push them away over it. When I was in addiction, the only people that helped were people who loved me. The people who love to shout "sinner" at people and almost seem excited to put others down almost never help. Sexual immorality can extremely deceptive because it deals with real emotions of love. I just try to stick to what I believe and lead by example. Love can overcome a multitude of sins
It sounds like you have healthy compassion and humility. The challenge is: How do you show the Love of Christ and still stand in truth? At the end of the day, we’ve been called as believers to point the way back to The Father through Jesus.
@@muppetonmeds yes and also telling them about Jesus but that's all we can do is plant the seeds and pray that God will water and create the increase 🙏🏿
All life of flesh is sinful, and when we receive Jesus, all flesh sin fall away, that's why we have to preach only Jesus who saves, not sins we commit. Whatever you think is sin to you, becomes sin, but when in Christ, know that you have no sin, through faith in Jesus Christ.😊
But I say if one looks after a woman (or man!) to list after, he has already committed adultery in his heart. As nothing like a same sex marriage exists biblically, anything even entertaining same sex attraction is sin. Then again, I won't say I'm fully free from lusting (though not same sex) either. So let us pray to hold fast to Christ, but let us not call evil good.
In the sense of active sin, no. Meaning you're not practicing that sinful behavior. But to be doctrinally and theologically consistent homosexual desires/attractions are sinful because the desire is un natural . If God condemns the act how does that make the desire ok? We commit sin with sinful desires. We don't have Godly or neutral affections and call the outcome of those Godly desires sin. That's illogical.
I'm a male who's attracted to men. Now, I'm not sure if it's a sin to be attracted to the same-sex or not, but I want my same-sex attraction (SSA) to go away because I feel like what's the point of having it if I can't act on it (an opposite-sex attracted person can act on their attraction within marriage but I can't). I came across people online saying their SSA went away, but that hasn't happened for me yet (it might be a process). I still have SSA after fasting and praying multiple times.
Read the word every day. Be careful what you watch.Ask God to change your desires and teach you to hate what He hates and to love what He loves. I'm praying for you.
God bless you my brother and may he continue to keep you 🙏🏿 for one make sure you truly want this SSA to be removed because God knows if we're not fully surrendering. Then bring it before the Lord every time you pray and remove yourself from those things that may activate those desires. Lastly the hard reality is this may just be your thorn to bear until God calls you home. We all must bear some things as we carry our own cross until we reach paradise. Remember Paul had to bear the thorn in his side mentioned in 2 Corinthians 12:7-9 and rely on God's grace to get him through. So whatever you do continue to give it to God!! Don't give up and don't give in and God will either deliver you from it or see you through it!! Stand firm in the faith and keep trusting God and God bless you in Jesus name 🙏🏿
When the attraction becomes sexually arousing, mentally or physically. There is no borderline! You may be describing someone who is Fluided. That person is attracted to that person for whatever reason they will bed them. Sinful!
It seems that the premise of the debate is all wrong from the standpoint that the assumption that the attraction to the same sex is simply a matter of the flesh we are born in. This is not to be equated with nearsightedness or any type of physical defect we might suffer from, or be afflicted with while we are in this world. We have to stick to spiritual principles when it comes to things like sexual deviance in whatever form it may manifest itself. Principally we should understand that deviant influences on any level, and especially when it comes to homosexuality is demonically influenced on a spiritual level. So then that would be where the source should be examined, and that is on the spiritual level. You don't look for the cause of nearsightedness on the spiritual level. It is a physical deficiency of which many human suffer from, and is easily remedied, but not to be conflated with homosexual thoughts. I think that in Matthew 5: 28 to 29, Jesus speaks directly to this; that if you look upon a woman with lust in your heart then you have sinned the sin of adultery even if only in your mind. So if you look at anyone with lust in your heart, same sex or not, you have sinned. In this case it becomes obvious that the attraction is sexual, and not plutonic, so therefore a sin within the heart. Homosexuality is demonic, not a birth defect. We do not wrestle with flesh and blood.
I would like to remind my brothers and sisters in Christ that just as AIDS in and of itself is not a sin but simply the consequences of sexual sins. So is same sex attraction in and of itself is not a sin but the consequences of sin as explained in Romans 1:25-27. I believe that so many times we forget that same sex attraction which precede homosexual behavior is the result of God's judgment upon those who have exchanged the truth of God for a lie and who worship and serve the creature more than the Creator. It's something to think about!
Jesus said lust is a sin. Lust is strong desire or attraction to something. Being attracted to something sinful is sin. Having a thought about sin isn't sinful. Claiming thoughts about sin is sinful. If I'm attracted to stealing, that's a sin if I like the thoughts, entertain the thoughts, claim the thoughts as ok, or don't want to get rid of the thoughts - that's sin.
Sin is the transgression of the law. I JOHN 3:4. In II Timothy 2:22 we are told to flee youthful lust. So are you saying that when we are tempted with lust that we have sinned even though we resisted the temptation? (See James 1:14,15) Notice it says when lust has conceived it brings forth sin.
it’s possible for one to sin an have no control over doing it only God can help them. Gay feelings sexual feelings for animals and kids are all sinful feelings. There is such thing as righteous hatred of what is evil but there is no righteous homosexual feelings all of these are under the term perverse feelings.
Sin is the transgression of the law. I JOHN 3:4. In II Timothy 2:22 we are told to flee youthful lust. So are you saying that when we are tempted with lust that we have sinned even though we have resisted the temptation? (See James 1:14,15) Notice it says when lust has conceived it brings forth sin. Meaning when lust have conceived in your heart than and only than is it called sin. (See Matthew 5:28)
If there had been no Fall there would be no same sex attraction. Same sex attraction is something those afflicted with it need to be constantly mortifying. The mortifying of sin is a daily battle for us all. How the sinful desires of the flesh manifest in us varies to some extent in us as individuals. However we should and wiĺl by the power of the Spirit become progessively more conformed to the image of Christ
Why would anyone ask YOU or this "pastor" this question? It's like asking me about being a black woman in the black church when I'm not a woman, black, or in black church experience.
Lukewarm just means you are not fully in love with God and who would want to live with God for eternity if they aren't fully in love with him? So he spews them out.
Hey Cory. Listen 👂🎧 it can't be a sin . I will use Bible verses, David and Jonathan love surpasses that of a woman. That's in the Bible and it has nothing to do with being gay or homo. Now answer me this question? They were best friends.did they have an attraction to each other? RJ brother
As I have learnt this love between David and Jonathan is a love formed in the brotherhood of war. Men who fight together form a strong bond like that of a family because their lives are in each others hands. If you ask the soldiers of today who have been in war, they would say the same thing. - John 15:13 - Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends.
Many Christians have bondages that never were delt with at salvation are causing the uncleanness and fornication and greediness or covetous. So.. to be delivered from a bondage you go before the church leaders and confess the sin and then they will pray over you anointing you with oil. And with fasting sometimes and always prayer the person will be free. If you see it continue after the time with the edlers of the church... then its time to confess all the trespasses that are atill being felt by the God given conscience. Once the heart is clean then Satan has no more authority over that territory in your life. Familiar spirits from parents and grandparents is also to be part of the prayer to be free. The fasting is always a great part of bondage breaking. Oh... cleans the home. No more Netflix subscriptions. God will make you now a minister to those who are mired in the sins of fornication.
If you can identify within yourself, that you are homosexually attracted... this automatically means you have conscious thoughts on these things... and have most likely already passed into fantasy, that will ultimately lead to actions.
Personally, I was attracted to the same sex at one point. I never acted on it but the thought was there. And then, I began to ask God questions about myself - How I ended up where I was as a single woman. I had a situation where I was at an old friend’s house making food for a party. A masculine woman who was gay asked me had I ever - if I had some or thought about it. I told her simply, yes. I thought about it and I had opportunities to explore it but when it got down to it, I chose not. I came to the conclusion that I knew the curiosity stemmed from what happened to me at the age of 5 by a 10 year old girl at my school. After that, the thoughts didn’t have room in my mind anymore because I chose to get to the root of- instead of opening the door to the lust. I am 100% heterosexual woman. I see the beauty in what God created between man and woman (family) which is why satan fights it so hard.
@@christiansoldier77 That's not how I used the word automatically. If you look at the same sex and consciously imagine what it would be like to have sex with them... you are already in sin. You are making a conscious choice on what you are doing with your thoughts. You can just as easily not think on those thoughts... you can do what the Bible says and take them captive.
@@HelpMakeMeRichTrue, but the same goes for opposite sex attraction. And that's really the thing. Lust is a real problem whether you're straight or gay
@@HelpMakeMeRichdo you see an attractive woman and imagine what it would be like to sleep with her??? Then you too would be in sin!! You see how hard it is to control your thoughts?? It happens quickly because though our eyes have been opened to sin and we have the power to fight it and overcome it through Jesus, that doesn't mean we no longer have our sinful nature. It's just we're able to fight it and subdue it, but it will always be a struggle one way or another until we're with Jesus.
@@christiansoldier77we're all attracted to murder and lying?? Really. Speak for yourself. I have many sins, but desiring to murder someone is not one of then. If you desire to murder someone, you might want to turn yourself in to the authority right now.
There's just to many opinions on the teachings of Jesus, too much confusion, I believe John 3:16. Everybody's guilty of some form of sin. If you obey all the commandments and break one you are guilty of breaking them all. If you lust to steal or murder or lie their just as bad as lust for the same sex. You can't categorize any sin. Christ died for all sin.
Romans 1:26+27, "For this reason God GAVE THEM OVER to dishonorable passions; for their females exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural & in the same way also the males abandoned the natural function of the female & burned in their desire toward one another, males with males committing indecent acts & receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error."
Same sex attraction was addressed in God's Word and is soul damning sin. Romans 1:26-27 - For this cause God gave them up unto VILE AFFECTIONS affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is AGAINST NATURE: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, BURNED IN THEIR LUST ONE TOWARD ANOTHER; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Before watching the video. I would say 100% same sex attraction is not sin...its not a sin to be attracted to something sinful..its what you do with that attraction....There's ppl who're attracted to stealing. Being violent, being promiscuous etc..and they recognize that attraction if acted on leads to sin..they strive to submit their lives to Christ.. there's Brothers and sisters who recognizes that homosexual acts or lust is sinful. So they fight against it..but they have same sex attraction. Because of different reason. One individual was abused as a child which lead to them having same sex attraction. Another was abused in Prison And they struggle with it recognizing the sinfulness of the homosexual lifestyle. when talking about sexual sins the bible speaks about actions...doing the thing and lust..which is what needs to be defined.Ive heard a few definitions of lust ..one being looking with desire and if the opportunity presented itself you would do the act...that definition seems good...but a good definition of lest that recognizes the difference between just being attracted to...or finding someone beautiful ..and the deep desire that leads to action. Is needed.
@@cowel8734 That's what I'm thinking. There's a point where you enter lust and you gotta watch that. But then again God did put a desire in a man and woman for each other. Thanks for your response!
All sin is disgusting let us not be like the Pharisee in Luke 18, who prayed," thank you Lord that I'm not like other men,robbers,adulterers,evildoers!" But instead pray for those who are struggling with sexual immorality whatever the nature of their sin!
If I'm attracted to animals,is it a sin? Yes! It's unnatural and insane. We need to be considerate but firm. We need tell gay people we love them, but you can't behave this way. Your feelings can be and need to be controlled .The Church is folding. And society is quickly following.
courylanders, I agree. Who would have thought Christians would be playing word games between thoughts or actual sins. It's the spirit of the age that has infected churches.
That's how sin works it goes against sanity sane people don't kill. Sane people don't do drugs or smoke when they know it can kill them. Sane people aren't attracted to the same sex or think they are the opposite sex. When Legion in the Bible had all his demons cast out OF HIM he sat in his right mind and he was sane again.
Is not just attraction, it’s SEXUAL attraction. Which means a flesh’s desire. Galatians 5:17 For the desires of the flesh are against the Spirit, and the desires of the Spirit are against the flesh, for these are opposed to each other, to keep you from doing the things you want to do. If you are a true Christian you know very well in your heart what’s good and bad. Those desires DO NOT come from the spirit of God. We tend to make up excuses to our convenience so we can sin.
Foolishness to use Matthew 5:4 because you don’t understand Jesus’ teaching - and Him being under the law and teaching the law. That text is about coveting and how we treat others. Thou shall not covet. Paul says. “What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.” Romans 7:7 KJV When it comes to the law most men/women don’t know how to decipher or teach it rightly. The spirit of self righteousness usually applies. Holy Spirit please help these people and their topics! Teach them righteousness judgement! “and shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:” Isaiah 11:3 KJV
Same sex attraction and action is not a sin, it’s an abomination! It’s the highest form of sin one can commit before the eyes of the Lord! ( Lev 20:13) God has not changed his heart nor mind when it comes to that. God’s truth will endure.
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Same sex attraction is for the Egyptian, the Romans, and those people. But the LORD GOD OF ISRAEL, specifically told His people, Israel, that they MUST NOT practice these things.
Amen. Yep, we are meant to be separate from the world. First, it was the Jews and then the Christians took over, so we all now have a chance to be included. While the USA or the UN represents babylon, I believe God used the USA to push everyone together so that even the countries that didn't have the gospel can now know God. Even slavery was a way to use something bad to bring people to the truth
I’ve struggled with same sex attraction. I’ve never met anyone with same sex attraction who wasn’t molested as a child and usually has a parent or parents with narcissistic personality disorder. It is definitely caused by abuse and neglect.
I love you Brother Corey I’m not with this ! Sin is sin it is against the wordof God PERIODT! so sorry it ain’t working Thank God this isn’t my struggle I have enough t to deal with. Like telling people off!😆🙏🏾
I think the way that this was presented was very well done but still to me seems like a lot of mental gymnastics to arrive at a point that’s pretty obvious. The Bible discusses lots of behaviors or even mindset, covetousness for example is not necessarily an action but more based around desire to have more, that would be sin. But very few things do the scriptures classify as an abomination. Men dressing as women is an abomination. Homosexuality is an abomination. The fact that homosexuality is classified as an abomination should really be the end of the discussion as you don’t really need to progress any further than that. The other thing to consider is that God is not interested in saving every human being and some human beings cannot be saved as they are Satan people. Jesus explains this in the parable of the wheat and the tares. Satan has scattered his seed somehow on this earth. I Also think it’s worth pointing out that in many cases homosexuality is the result of sexual, physical, emotional, verbal or some type of abuse.
1 Timothy 2:4- New King James Version who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. John 3:16- For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whomsoever shall believe in him shall not perish but have everlasting life. So God does desire for all to be saved and none to be lost. It's the people who won't turn to God but God's door is always open to them.
@@cochisecarter6298 John 3:16 says He paid for the whole world. That's obvious. 1 Timothy 2:4-5 is problematic but can be interpreted as all "types" of men based on the context. So I have a response to that and it's not a stretch based on what that chapter is discussing. How would you resolve the entire 9th chapter of Romans. Also, what is the difference that makes a person believe? When 2 different people hear the same message, why does one believe and the other not. Is there something intrinsically better in the one that believes? If that is the case, there is something to boast about in the individual that gets saved. I'm not trying to be difficult or ugly or argumentative. But Ephesians 2 says that we were DEAD in trespasses and sins. A dead person cannot respond to God unless God first gives them the capacity to respond. Why doesn't God give the capacity to respond to all equally if His desire is to save every human?
@jogo8261 To be fair, most modern English translations in the Bible for homosexuality are inconsistent with the closest definition in Scripture. Many moments that mention the word homosexuality in the original languages is referring to effeminate like men or men and women sleeping with each other. Also, by any chance, are you a Calvinist?
I would like to remind my brothers and sisters in Christ that just as AIDS in and of itself is not a sin but simply the consequences of sexual sins. So is same sex attraction in and of itself is not a sin but the consequences of sin as explained in Romans 1:25-27. I believe that so many times we forget that same sex attraction which precede homosexual behavior is the result of God's judgment upon those who have exchanged the truth of God for a lie and who worship and serve the creature more than the Creator. It's something to think about!
Any affect, attitude, thought or behavior that influences the heart but does not reflect back God's created natural order and holy character is sin. We all struggle with a sin propensity as a consequence of the Fall. All of fallen humanity must struggle against proclivities toward selfishness, hatred, pride, jealousy, idolatry and ungodly or uncontrolled lusts for sensual pleasures of the flesh that fall outside of the will of God because they do not glorify and reveal His true nature. Though we will never fully overcome every attack from our fallen nature, we still recognize them as being sinful and something to strive against. Same sex attraction is not a special category of the sin nature that should be viewed as benign. We are called to continually mortify our sinful flesh even at the thought level, not excuse it as being outside of ourselves because of the Fall. The first step to receive the overcoming grace needed to mortify our flesh daily is to agree with God by faith about what is sin. Grace works through faith, not through enabling pragmatism. May I suggest that you listen to the testimony and some insightful teachings from Rosaria Butterfield? They may help give you at least consider a new perspective that may even lead to you being instrumental in supporting someone struggling with same sex attraction to freedom. ❤
Sin is the transgression of the law. I JOHN 3:4. In II Timothy 2:22 we are told to flee youthful lust. So are you saying that when we are tempted with lust that we have sinned even though we have resisted the temptation? (See James 1:14,15) Notice it says when lust has conceived it brings forth sin. Meaning when lust have conceived in your heart than and only than is it called sin. (See Matthew 5:28)
For those struggling with same sex attraction, it is one of many sexual issues. I struggled with lust and adultery, I asked the Holy Spirit to show me the root of my affliction and help me dig it up.
If you believe these feelings or urges never go away, then something is impossible for God. We often justify sin, thoughts and actions, thinking sin won’t let us go. Sin cannot be justified and must be dug up at the root. Our God has overcome the world and it’s ways. And remembering his grace is sufficient means your freedom may be a battle won with God's help.
Amen
Stop speaking nonsense. It makes my skin crawl seeing the Holy Spirit being mentioned in your foolishness.
Our thoughts should be Holy, and pure.
AMEN!!!
Personally, I was attracted to the same sex at one point. I never acted on it but the thought was there. And then, I began to ask God questions about myself - How I ended up where I was as a single woman. I had a situation where I was at an old friend’s house making food for a party. A masculine woman who was gay asked me had I ever - if I had some or thought about it. I told her simply, yes. I thought about it and I had opportunities to explore it but when it got down to it, I chose not. I came to the conclusion that I knew the curiosity stemmed from what happened to me at the age of 5 by a 10 year old girl at my school. After that, the thoughts didn’t have room in my mind anymore because I chose to get to the root of- instead of opening the door to the lust. I am 100% heterosexual woman. I see the beauty in what God created between man and woman (family) which is why satan fights it so hard.
A beautiful testimony. Thanks for sharing.
Amen amen
Amen thanks for sharing!! It’s powerful and will help others get free.
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When I was in school, not many people were attracted to the same sex. Now 99% of kids are. I think that points to how entertainment influences people. I don't think people really understand what they feel and are pushed every time the wind blows.
Our govt and culture is purposely cultivating that interest.
Spot on!
I think its best not to excuse any sinful grounds but confess them and repent. We're not make ourselves look good before God no matter what, only God can clean us.
I agree. Even though its clearly a sin, its still good to understand it and why people do it. Like my aunt who is gay now. She dated a lot of bad men and eventually got depressed and married a woman. I can totally understand her wanting to feel loved, and I don't demonize her, but I also won't tell her its a good thing. I just try to love her
You can’t help who you are attracted to. Should you flee from it? Yes. You’re attracted because we still deal with fleshly desires.
The attraction is the result of a fallen, sinful nature. But the attraction in and of itself is not a sin. I’ve known people who hated their same-sex attraction and loved the Lord. This meant committing their attraction to Christ daily - to ask for help, and for forgiveness for any lustful thoughts they have due to this attraction.
God, can and will, deliver. But to think one cannot struggle in this area and still be saved is unbiblical. That said, being a practicing homosexual is a sin. 1 John 3:7-10 makes this abundantly clear. The ESV notes “the practice of sin.” Attractions are not something one practices; lusts and homosexual acts are.
Y’all gonna quit playing with me. Get truly attracted to the Word of God and the answer will come to with great ease. Quit using the Word for foolishness. Remember, one day “every knee will bow and every tongue will confess
Yes and amen!
Can you prove how your God came into being And do not say God always was or the Bible says Everything has a beginning Prove the beginning of God and where God came from
That Jesus Christ is Lord ... hallelujah ❤
Facts!
@@user-ut5vb6xm7p If he came into being he wouldn’t be God
GOD JUDGES EVEN THE THOUGHTS AND IMAGINATION. JEREMIAH 17:9-10
Thank God for Jesus 🙏🏿
I love when the responses are anchored in scripture! Praise God 🙌🏽
Desire to sin is also sin. Jesus doesn't want a bunch of people fantasizing about defying His wishes, restrained from doing the evil that is in their hearts. We all need to shape our actions towards righteousness, but also pray to shape our hearts and minds to it as well.
James 1:14-15 I believe weighs in on this issue:
"But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed. Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death."
So yes, while homosexual behaviours and activities are sinful, the desire or inclination towards such a sin can lead itself to giving in to the act, so the attraction over the same sex has to be fought against and prayed against as a believer.
I’m gay and still attracted to men but yet I have an acted on it in 16 years. It’s not hard. But it doesn’t mean that that temptation just automatically goes away. It’s part of our fallen flesh.
Of course, but the important thing is that you always resist the temptation and never give into it. That's the key thing to remember. I have thoughts that come into my mind that are wicked, but I do battle with them and pray that the Lord would help me to sin less and less and grow more and more in righteousness and holiness.@@Sirach144
If you know the Lord is keeping you why worry about 🙏🏿🙌🏾🙏🏿 great story and testimony 👌🏾 Jesus can truly bind up every strong man in our lives! Praying that he may continue to keep you and all of us through our various struggles faultless in his sight!! God bless you 🙏🏿
As a same sex attracted Christian who is saved I can say these feelings don’t go away. Having them go away, isn’t proof of salvation. A lot of times we’re gonna struggle with it.
Hey Sirach, we are on the same boat, I am in love with a friend... I just don't desire her in a sexual way or want to marry her.
Appreciate both the firmness and nuance you bring up.
Amen Pastor Corey🙏🏽
Our problem is simply that in our unredeemed life our inner self,our spirit,was united to the self-loving spirit of Satan. As a consequence,we followed the desire of soul and body. When our bodies stimulated appetites in us, we gratified them. When our souls stirred up pride or dislike of this or hate of that or love of that- we just followed them. We were governed by our souls and bodies.
Amen brother.
Shalom man of God and many blessings to you and to your beautiful wife and families (personal/ministries).
You spoke the truth man of God.
And I can see why the pastor in this clip went in that direction, but it does help when we see the process of a "thought" in a better light.
You were on to something when you compared a thought to a "seed." Because thoughts do carry that activity.
This is why The Most High God stresses the importance of casting down imaginations and bringing thoughts into captivity that contradict His Word (2 Corinthians 10:5).
All a thought needs is "soil." The mind, heart, spirit, and soul act as "soil." Because our internal make up is built to function under the system of reproduction (spiritually and naturally). And when we do not deal with ungodly thoughts right away, they can end up reproducing a nature and behavior pattern within us that can go against our design in The Most High's image.
This is why it is vitally important for believers to war against ungodly thoughts.
To have a thought that entertains same sex attraction is an ungodly perception. That thought alone unveils the reality of the fallen nature.
We are originally designed to think like The Most High God. If He does not entertain thoughts about same sex attraction, we are accountable for upholding the same mindset. Ungodly thoughts can hinder how we see the value of the human soul and the holiness of The Most High's image. This is why the regeneration process is necessary, vital, and required in this walk. Without the regeneration process our thought life will remain in a corrupt and contaminated state. We cannot reflect the beauty of The Most High's holiness with a mind that is bound to the fallen nature.
It is important to take the mind through a real purification process with The Word of God and through a real relationship with The Holy Spirit. It is The Holy Spirit that helps us and teaches us how to conquer the mind that is carnal and fallen.
God Bless you man of God and thank you for sharing this video. Shalom unto you and to your beautiful wife and families.
Any sexual attraction outside the confines of marriage is technically sin. The question is are you praying about it or are you willfully feeding the desire and allowing it to fester and grow in your heart.
That was my question below. What is attraction exactly? Is it lust or what? Or is attraction for the opposite sex a feeling that you have to keep tight reigns on so it doesn't become lust (outside of marriage)?
I say that because I know God put in us a natural desire the opposite sex so we can procreate. I guess we just gotta reign it in with help of the holy Spirit so we don't sin
@@tic8259Jesus tells us in Matthew 5:28-29 that if you look upon a woman to lust after her you’ve already committed adultery.
Yes God gave us attraction to the opposite sex for procreation, but the design was for the confines of marriage. That being said.. we all sin and fall short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23)
@tic8259 Yes, it can be a battle. When I watch movies, sometimes they have nudity and doesn't bother me, but as soon as Im looking for nudity, my intentions are for lust
It's not a sin to be attracted to someone or something. The sin comes in once lust develops and then is acted on. However it is not natural to be attracted to the same sex. That attraction is the result of sin passed down through Adam. Our flesh will continue to desire It's cravings. We must conform our minds to God's Word over any thoughts or feelings that opposes it.
Lust is bending of the mind mentally to get/seek after the satisfy attraction . When the thought becomes lust,the ONLY THING that stops from following through with the act is the OPPORTUNITY not presenting itself
Attraction and lust are different. ALL lust is sin, but attraction? No. A normal person does not have lust toward everyone to whom they are attracted.
1 John 2:16 "For all that is in the world-the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride of life[a]-is not from the Father but is from the world.". It's about what you give your attention to. Matthew 6:22-23 “The eye is the lamp of the body. So, if your eye is healthy, your whole body will be full of light, but if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light in you is darkness, how great is the darkness!".
Thank you for this. This is specifically my struggle and I came to the same conclusion myself. I will say I think attraction and lust are two different things as well. Believe me or not but I dont have sexual thoughts about everyone I find attractive.
To those who argue the attraction itself is sinful, I dont seek to change your minds but do be mindful of how u come across and the affect u may have. I've unfortunately committed the act, due to my lack of understanding on this subject. I cant say for sure that I never would have given in had I not equated the attraction to sin. But I can say that being convinced that the attraction was a sin that I was already involuntarily committing produced hopelessness and a mindset that I may as well go all the way since I was incapable of completely eradicating the attraction. Whereas today I find it much easier to acknowledge my attraction and move on.
I don't say this to challenge your beliefs on sin, but only to give insight that you don't speak in a way that would cause someone like me to stumble. Because to be 100% transparent reading some of the comments does remind me of the same hopelessness I felt before.
And to those who will say I shouldve prayed more or trusted God more and etc. Of course I prayed about it, cried to God about it, and to give perspective it took years of struggling with the attraction before I ever acted on it, and I even resisted multiple opportunities. So just be careful not to place an unbearable yoke on your brethren
You can know the feeling itself is sinful and know you can’t stop it by yourself only God and that you shouldn’t go an do it an go all the way with it.
You "eradicate" the error by starving it. It's quite simple. The pontificating is just a means of self justification. You don't sit with the thought, you acknowledge it's wrong and pull it down immediately. People who constantly struggle in this department usually do not have firm resolve to deny themselves or have so endulged in the lifestyle so as to have created deep roots within them. Hopelessness and self pity is not the answer. Self denial is. Casting down thoughts is. Closing doors and removing yourself from tempting environments is. Fear of God's judgement and knowledge of God's ability to give you freedom.. is the answer. The question really is... Will thou be made whole? Do you really want to be set free?
@@OneSweetDay489 A preacher once said you can't control a bird flying over your nest but you can keep it from roosting there. We can't control the evil thoughts the enemy gives us but we can control dwelling or acting on them. But of course with God's help.
@@treybarker8167 I rejoice in your victory with you brethren 🙏🏿💪🏾🙏🏿 I believe as Corey does and in the words of the apostle Paul, that as long as you truly desire to not give in Praise God!! He will bring you to the point where you won't give in!! There's nothing to hard for him but we must truly want the help!! May the good Lord continue to bless and keep you and continue to let others know what the Lord has done for you 🙏🏿 God bless you 🙏🏿
Well Said!!!!
I'm sexually attracted to both men and women. In other words I am bisexual. I have not acted on it. I do want to marry and have a family. The only way I can do this is to never tell the woman who will become my wife. No woman will ever accept me. It doesn't matter that I would be monogamous.
The issue is consecration...if you for example were an alcoholic and God set you free from alcohol but as a Christian you keep frequenting places that have alcohol or around alcohol ..if this goes on for a long while somewhere demon spirjts that around that scene will see you as fair game and try to stir those things in you for alcohol that God deadened ...so in sexual sin ...if God delivered you from sexual perversion homosexuality included but you keep watching wordly movies and music and you are on Facebook and Instagram where there is a lot of half naked men and women pictures ..somewhere you will awaken that thing that God silenced in you when you got saved ....so being saved does not mean you are technically saved in that you still can fall back into sin ...as long as you are in this world you will have to battle to keep the mind of Christ alive in you ..we get technically saved the day we die and we cast off this sinful flesh and go to heaven ..but while on earth you have to be careful .but if you are careless with your Christianity and don't understand that their are boundaries you cannot cross as a Christian..you will eventually fall back into that sin . inotherwards the desires in you will be stronger according to what you feed on ...if you keep feeding the flesh ...that flesh will grow stronger but if you feed on the things of God ..bible ,prayer ,living clean and judging rhings ..you will grow stronger in the spirit ... inotherwards God has saved you as a born again Christian from sinful desires but it's your responsibility to keep those sinful desires in check or dead by what you chose to feed on
What is attraction? And sexual attraction specifically? Is it lust? If it is lust then yes same sex or any sexual attraction outside of marriage is sin.
I do believe the Scripture in Hebrews 4:14-16 that talks about Jesus being tempted but without sin. Hebrews 2:18 says (paraphrasing) that since Jesus suffered while being tempted, He is also able to help us during our temptation.
Soooo...honest question, does attraction count as temptation if you can say you are not lusting during your attraction (same sex or opposite sex)?
Edit: Same sex attraction is not God's normal though; however, it is a "fleshly" struggle for some Christians. The ACT of same sex lust and sex is sinful.
What Bible app/ program do use to pull up your translations?
God did not leave us without a remedy, in more places than one in Scripture we're reminded that we are in a spiritual battle against the evil one. Those evil desires come from Satan, and they may arouse within us the sin nature that we are all prone to due to the fall. So whether it be same sex attraction, or lusting after people or things, we need to call upon the Lord, and ask Him to help us to mortify and abstain from those sinful lust which war and rage against our Soul. God will help us....even to conquer the battle that may take place in our mind. Thoughts attractions and sinful lusts can be reigned in and eventually abandoned.
I did not see the word effeminate in the NASB 2020 translation. Why did some translations they take it out? Some translations say those who make woman of themselves and another says "nor male prostitutes. Just curious as to why some took it out?
Yes! Yes! Yes! That's a sin! It's no difference in a man lusting after a woman when married.
Praise Him, Praise Him. I watch and listen to pastor Jennings as well as you I think you'll get the same meaning out of the Bible the same some I think youll might see it different sometimes. I haven't heard nether if yall having an isue of same sex relationships is ungodly! It's plain as day homosexuality is a sin no different that covet or adultery. What gets me more than people practicing a homosexual lifestyle is they think it's not a sin. My uncle is bisexual and will tell you in a second "if im going to live for God I cant mess with men." Its plain as day. Thank you.
The argument can be made that all homosexuals at one time only had a same sex attraction. So why would he lead anyone to believe that it’s okay to harbor that attraction without acting on it. Is it okay to plot to murder someone as long as you don’t act on it? I believe that harboring ungodly thoughts is a sin. Yes as Christians we can think sinful thoughts but once you recognize that thought as being ungodly through the power of prayer we ask God to rid us of such thoughts.
Amen
Let me clarify. As a same sex attracted Christian: I DO NOT want to have sex with another woman, I also do not have sexual thoughts with them. As a matter of fact, I don't like sex at all. I am only emotionally and mentally attracted to women and I appreciate their physical beauty: eyes, smile, hair etc. I don't think this is sinful as long as I don't get into a Marriage or have sex with them, it is my fallen tendency and fight every day but I deeply love someone who has a friend label... I know that I love her more than other friends and I find her beautiful inside out.
The Attraction is not Sinful in and of itself But The Sexual Act Itself is Sinful plus if it's Sexual it will likely be Lustful and Jesus Stated that If You look at a Woman Lustfully You and Her have already Committed Lust in Your Heart if The Attraction is Lust based it is Sinful.
THE DEVIL IS OBVIOUSLY WHISPERING IN YOUR EAR !
@@rzn2258 You talking to Me Friend?
Matt 15:19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:
Evil thoughts defile a man Matthew 15 :19, 20.
For me I can totally understand why the gay thing is a tough subject. For example, my aunt only dated black men and after getting cheated on, emotionally abused, and other things, she started dating black woman and married one.
Im no gay, so its clearly a sin to me, but I can understand when people get rejected by the opposite sex enough, they just want someone to love on.
With my aunt, she is married with kids and if she decided it was a sin, she'd have to abandon a family. Its still wrong and its affected her views(liberalism can be demonic)
I've also had gay friends that know what I believe but I don't force it or push them away over it.
When I was in addiction, the only people that helped were people who loved me. The people who love to shout "sinner" at people and almost seem excited to put others down almost never help.
Sexual immorality can extremely deceptive because it deals with real emotions of love.
I just try to stick to what I believe and lead by example. Love can overcome a multitude of sins
anything sexually perverse is not love. One might think its love but real love come from Actions/feelings that are supported by the lord.
It sounds like you have healthy compassion and humility. The challenge is: How do you show the Love of Christ and still stand in truth?
At the end of the day, we’ve been called as believers to point the way back to The Father through Jesus.
Sometimes the best message we can give people is just living the life and be an example of what a real Christian is.
@@muppetonmeds yes and also telling them about Jesus but that's all we can do is plant the seeds and pray that God will water and create the increase 🙏🏿
All life of flesh is sinful, and when we receive Jesus, all flesh sin fall away, that's why we have to preach only Jesus who saves, not sins we commit.
Whatever you think is sin to you, becomes sin, but when in Christ, know that you have no sin, through faith in Jesus Christ.😊
Some attriction are denomic, Roman's 1-26-28
Question? Did GOD Hate The Nicolaitans? It Is Written! KJV - Revelation 2 : 6
But I say if one looks after a woman (or man!) to list after, he has already committed adultery in his heart.
As nothing like a same sex marriage exists biblically, anything even entertaining same sex attraction is sin.
Then again, I won't say I'm fully free from lusting (though not same sex) either. So let us pray to hold fast to Christ, but let us not call evil good.
In the sense of active sin, no. Meaning you're not practicing that sinful behavior.
But to be doctrinally and theologically consistent homosexual desires/attractions are sinful because the desire is un natural . If God condemns the act how does that make the desire ok? We commit sin with sinful desires. We don't have Godly or neutral affections and call the outcome of those Godly desires sin. That's illogical.
I'm a male who's attracted to men. Now, I'm not sure if it's a sin to be attracted to the same-sex or not, but I want my same-sex attraction (SSA) to go away because I feel like what's the point of having it if I can't act on it (an opposite-sex attracted person can act on their attraction within marriage but I can't). I came across people online saying their SSA went away, but that hasn't happened for me yet (it might be a process). I still have SSA after fasting and praying multiple times.
Read the word every day. Be careful what you watch.Ask God to change your desires and teach you to hate what He hates and to love what He loves. I'm praying for you.
God bless you my brother and may he continue to keep you 🙏🏿 for one make sure you truly want this SSA to be removed because God knows if we're not fully surrendering. Then bring it before the Lord every time you pray and remove yourself from those things that may activate those desires. Lastly the hard reality is this may just be your thorn to bear until God calls you home. We all must bear some things as we carry our own cross until we reach paradise. Remember Paul had to bear the thorn in his side mentioned in 2 Corinthians 12:7-9 and rely on God's grace to get him through. So whatever you do continue to give it to God!! Don't give up and don't give in and God will either deliver you from it or see you through it!! Stand firm in the faith and keep trusting God and God bless you in Jesus name 🙏🏿
It might never go away (33 years old woman here) Jesus said to take our cross( daily fights) and follow Him.
When the attraction becomes sexually arousing, mentally or physically. There is no borderline! You may be describing someone who is Fluided. That person is attracted to that person for whatever reason they will bed them. Sinful!
It seems that the premise of the debate is all wrong from the standpoint that the assumption that the attraction to the same sex is simply a matter of the flesh we are born in. This is not to be equated with nearsightedness or any type of physical defect we might suffer from, or be afflicted with while we are in this world. We have to stick to spiritual principles when it comes to things like sexual deviance in whatever form it may manifest itself. Principally we should understand that deviant influences on any level, and especially when it comes to homosexuality is demonically influenced on a spiritual level. So then that would be where the source should be examined, and that is on the spiritual level. You don't look for the cause of nearsightedness on the spiritual level. It is a physical deficiency of which many human suffer from, and is easily remedied, but not to be conflated with homosexual thoughts. I think that in Matthew 5: 28 to 29, Jesus speaks directly to this; that if you look upon a woman with lust in your heart then you have sinned the sin of adultery even if only in your mind. So if you look at anyone with lust in your heart, same sex or not, you have sinned. In this case it becomes obvious that the attraction is sexual, and not plutonic, so therefore a sin within the heart. Homosexuality is demonic, not a birth defect. We do not wrestle with flesh and blood.
Romans chapter 1
I would like to remind my brothers and sisters in Christ that just as AIDS in and of itself is not a sin but simply the consequences of sexual sins. So is same sex attraction in and of itself is not a sin but the consequences of sin as explained in Romans 1:25-27. I believe that so many times we forget that same sex attraction which precede homosexual behavior is the result of God's judgment upon those who have exchanged the truth of God for a lie and who worship and serve the creature more than the Creator. It's something to think about!
Jesus said lust is a sin. Lust is strong desire or attraction to something. Being attracted to something sinful is sin. Having a thought about sin isn't sinful. Claiming thoughts about sin is sinful. If I'm attracted to stealing, that's a sin if I like the thoughts, entertain the thoughts, claim the thoughts as ok, or don't want to get rid of the thoughts - that's sin.
Sin is the transgression of the law. I JOHN 3:4. In II Timothy 2:22 we are told to flee youthful lust. So are you saying that when we are tempted with lust that we have sinned even though we resisted the temptation? (See James 1:14,15) Notice it says when lust has conceived it brings forth sin.
it’s possible for one to sin an have no control over doing it only God can help them. Gay feelings sexual feelings for animals and kids are all sinful feelings. There is such thing as righteous hatred of what is evil but there is no righteous homosexual feelings all of these are under the term perverse feelings.
Sin is the transgression of the law. I JOHN 3:4. In II Timothy 2:22 we are told to flee youthful lust. So are you saying that when we are tempted with lust that we have sinned even though we have resisted the temptation? (See James 1:14,15) Notice it says when lust has conceived it brings forth sin. Meaning when lust have conceived in your heart than and only than is it called sin. (See Matthew 5:28)
If the Bible calls it sin, his opinion doesn't matter.
If there had been no Fall there would be no same sex attraction. Same sex attraction is something those afflicted with it need to be constantly mortifying. The mortifying of sin is a daily battle for us all. How the sinful desires of the flesh manifest in us varies to some extent in us as individuals. However we should and wiĺl by the power of the Spirit become progessively more conformed to the image of Christ
He's trying to minimize sin... that's all he's doing...🤦
Why would anyone ask YOU or this "pastor" this question? It's like asking me about being a black woman in the black church when I'm not a woman, black, or in black church experience.
Is being Lukewarm a Sin???
Lukewarm just means you are not fully in love with God and who would want to live with God for eternity if they aren't fully in love with him? So he spews them out.
Hey Cory. Listen 👂🎧 it can't be a sin . I will use Bible verses, David and Jonathan love surpasses that of a woman. That's in the Bible and it has nothing to do with being gay or homo. Now answer me this question? They were best friends.did they have an attraction to each other? RJ brother
As I have learnt this love between David and Jonathan is a love formed in the brotherhood of war. Men who fight together form a strong bond like that of a family because their lives are in each others hands. If you ask the soldiers of today who have been in war, they would say the same thing.
- John 15:13 - Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends.
Many Christians have bondages that never were delt with at salvation are causing the uncleanness and fornication and greediness or covetous. So.. to be delivered from a bondage you go before the church leaders and confess the sin and then they will pray over you anointing you with oil. And with fasting sometimes and always prayer the person will be free. If you see it continue after the time with the edlers of the church... then its time to confess all the trespasses that are atill being felt by the God given conscience. Once the heart is clean then Satan has no more authority over that territory in your life. Familiar spirits from parents and grandparents is also to be part of the prayer to be free. The fasting is always a great part of bondage breaking. Oh... cleans the home. No more Netflix subscriptions. God will make you now a minister to those who are mired in the sins of fornication.
If you can identify within yourself, that you are homosexually attracted... this automatically means you have conscious thoughts on these things... and have most likely already passed into fantasy, that will ultimately lead to actions.
That's nonsense . Being attracted to the same sex doesn't automatically lead to action. Attraction isn't a sin it's the action that is a sin
Personally, I was attracted to the same sex at one point. I never acted on it but the thought was there. And then, I began to ask God questions about myself - How I ended up where I was as a single woman. I had a situation where I was at an old friend’s house making food for a party. A masculine woman who was gay asked me had I ever - if I had some or thought about it. I told her simply, yes. I thought about it and I had opportunities to explore it but when it got down to it, I chose not. I came to the conclusion that I knew the curiosity stemmed from what happened to me at the age of 5 by a 10 year old girl at my school. After that, the thoughts didn’t have room in my mind anymore because I chose to get to the root of- instead of opening the door to the lust. I am 100% heterosexual woman. I see the beauty in what God created between man and woman (family) which is why satan fights it so hard.
@@christiansoldier77 That's not how I used the word automatically. If you look at the same sex and consciously imagine what it would be like to have sex with them... you are already in sin. You are making a conscious choice on what you are doing with your thoughts. You can just as easily not think on those thoughts... you can do what the Bible says and take them captive.
@@HelpMakeMeRichTrue, but the same goes for opposite sex attraction. And that's really the thing. Lust is a real problem whether you're straight or gay
@@HelpMakeMeRichdo you see an attractive woman and imagine what it would be like to sleep with her??? Then you too would be in sin!! You see how hard it is to control your thoughts?? It happens quickly because though our eyes have been opened to sin and we have the power to fight it and overcome it through Jesus, that doesn't mean we no longer have our sinful nature. It's just we're able to fight it and subdue it, but it will always be a struggle one way or another until we're with Jesus.
The attraction is a sin. It has to do with something you’re battling everyday which is sin!
Attraction isn't sin but feeding that attraction would be a sin
So if you are attracted to murder or lieing it’s not a sin?
@@azz2203 We are all attracted to murder and lying . We are all sinful creatures. The point is not to act on these things
@@christiansoldier77we're all attracted to murder and lying?? Really. Speak for yourself. I have many sins, but desiring to murder someone is not one of then. If you desire to murder someone, you might want to turn yourself in to the authority right now.
@@mariosangermano We all have feelings of hatred from time to time and that is just as bad as murder In God's eyes and everyone has lied before.
Ummmmm YES!!!! Sin unintentionally or deliberately IS STILL SINNING!!!!
But there is a difference according to GOD'S Holy Word, the Bible.
There's just to many opinions on the teachings of Jesus, too much confusion, I believe John 3:16. Everybody's guilty of some form of sin.
If you obey all the commandments and break one you are guilty of breaking them all. If you lust to steal or murder or lie their just as bad as lust for the same sex. You can't categorize any sin.
Christ died for all sin.
0:28 A little off topic - but this preacher has a little bit of a Rodney Dangerfield thing going on. 😊
That's why he gets no respect.
Nothing wrong with being homosexual.
It's denomic
If you are attracted to the same sex, then you to repent and get right with Jesus
Romans 1:26+27, "For this reason God GAVE THEM OVER to dishonorable passions; for their females exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural & in the same way also the males abandoned the natural function of the female & burned in their desire toward one another, males with males committing indecent acts & receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error."
That's talking about people who don't want to change and want to justify their sinful behavior. It's not meant for those who are fighting it.
Same sex attraction was addressed in God's Word and is soul damning sin.
Romans 1:26-27 - For this cause God gave them up unto VILE AFFECTIONS affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is AGAINST NATURE: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, BURNED IN THEIR LUST ONE TOWARD ANOTHER; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Before watching the video. I would say 100% same sex attraction is not sin...its not a sin to be attracted to something sinful..its what you do with that attraction....There's ppl who're attracted to stealing. Being violent, being promiscuous etc..and they recognize that attraction if acted on leads to sin..they strive to submit their lives to Christ..
there's Brothers and sisters who recognizes that homosexual acts or lust is sinful. So they fight against it..but they have same sex attraction. Because of different reason. One individual was abused as a child which lead to them having same sex attraction. Another was abused in Prison And they struggle with it recognizing the sinfulness of the homosexual lifestyle.
when talking about sexual sins the bible speaks about actions...doing the thing and lust..which is what needs to be defined.Ive heard a few definitions of lust ..one being looking with desire and if the opportunity presented itself you would do the act...that definition seems good...but a good definition of lest that recognizes the difference between just being attracted to...or finding someone beautiful ..and the deep desire that leads to action. Is needed.
So does attraction = lust?
I think when its sexual attraction. Like I can really admire a pretty girl, but once my mind starts thinking sexually, it becomes sinful
@@cowel8734 That's what I'm thinking. There's a point where you enter lust and you gotta watch that. But then again God did put a desire in a man and woman for each other. Thanks for your response!
@@tic8259 Amen 🙏
Not only it's a sin it's disgusting
All sin is disgusting let us not be like the Pharisee in Luke 18, who prayed," thank you Lord that I'm not like other men,robbers,adulterers,evildoers!" But instead pray for those who are struggling with sexual immorality whatever the nature of their sin!
If I'm attracted to animals,is it a sin? Yes! It's unnatural and insane. We need to be considerate but firm. We need tell gay people we love them, but you can't behave this way. Your feelings can be and need to be controlled .The Church is folding. And society is quickly following.
courylanders,
I agree. Who would have thought Christians would be playing word games between thoughts or actual sins.
It's the spirit of the age that has infected churches.
That's how sin works it goes against sanity sane people don't kill. Sane people don't do drugs or smoke when they know it can kill them. Sane people aren't attracted to the same sex or think they are the opposite sex. When Legion in the Bible had all his demons cast out OF HIM he sat in his right mind and he was sane again.
Before the fall God created man and women to become one flesh and be fruitful and multiply his image 😂....conversation over
Is not just attraction, it’s SEXUAL attraction. Which means a flesh’s desire.
Galatians 5:17
For the desires of the flesh are against the Spirit, and the desires of the Spirit are against the flesh, for these are opposed to each other, to keep you from doing the things you want to do.
If you are a true Christian you know very well in your heart what’s good and bad. Those desires DO NOT come from the spirit of God. We tend to make up excuses to our convenience so we can sin.
Lie! most of us want an emotional connection with another person. I don't even like sex for starters!
Fornication regardless of same sex or heterosexual is sin/
Foolishness to use Matthew 5:4 because you don’t understand Jesus’ teaching - and Him being under the law and teaching the law. That text is about coveting and how we treat others. Thou shall not covet. Paul says.
“What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.”
Romans 7:7 KJV
When it comes to the law most men/women don’t know how to decipher or teach it rightly. The spirit of self righteousness usually applies.
Holy Spirit please help these people and their topics! Teach them righteousness judgement!
“and shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:”
Isaiah 11:3 KJV
What you said is wrong and makes no sense.
Are You Implying Same Sex Attraction is not Addressed When obviously It is.
@@D.W.C935 nope
@user-zt7ri5oj5i Are You Disagreeing with me if so Why don't you go and Ask Paul what he was addressing when it came to Sexual Immorality.
@@D.W.C935 Paul was addressing the flesh and the things of it! Those in Christ follow after the Spirit and not flesh. Daaah
This guy is “splitting hairs” to please people.
Same sex attraction and action is not a sin, it’s an abomination! It’s the highest form of sin one can commit before the eyes of the Lord! ( Lev 20:13) God has not changed his heart nor mind when it comes to that. God’s truth will endure.
Its not a abomination at all.
ALL SIN IS WRONG CAME AFTER FALL,MOST HAVE BEEN SEXUALLY, PHYSICALLY, MENTALLY ABUSED YOU TRUST KNOW ONE SO YOUR THE ALPHA STANCE OF IN CHARGE 😮😢THAT WAY THEY CAN'T HURT YOU,YOU REPENT TURN AND STOP😊YES STILL CHANGING YES BUT SAYING IT'S OK IS WHAT CHURCH IS FOR😮😢😢
Isn't for😅
Same sex attraction is for the Egyptian, the Romans, and those people. But the LORD GOD OF ISRAEL, specifically told His people, Israel, that they MUST NOT practice these things.
Amen. Yep, we are meant to be separate from the world. First, it was the Jews and then the Christians took over, so we all now have a chance to be included.
While the USA or the UN represents babylon, I believe God used the USA to push everyone together so that even the countries that didn't have the gospel can now know God. Even slavery was a way to use something bad to bring people to the truth
If God's perspective on same-sex relationships is the same as his perspective on slavery, it's safe to say he is probably not worth listening to.
I’ve struggled with same sex attraction. I’ve never met anyone with same sex attraction who wasn’t molested as a child and usually has a parent or parents with narcissistic personality disorder. It is definitely caused by abuse and neglect.
No. Its not at all.
I love you Brother Corey
I’m not with this ! Sin is sin it is against the wordof God PERIODT! so sorry it ain’t working
Thank God this isn’t my struggle
I have enough t to deal with.
Like telling people off!😆🙏🏾
I think the way that this was presented was very well done but still to me seems like a lot of mental gymnastics to arrive at a point that’s pretty obvious. The Bible discusses lots of behaviors or even mindset, covetousness for example is not necessarily an action but more based around desire to have more, that would be sin. But very few things do the scriptures classify as an abomination. Men dressing as women is an abomination. Homosexuality is an abomination. The fact that homosexuality is classified as an abomination should really be the end of the discussion as you don’t really need to progress any further than that.
The other thing to consider is that God is not interested in saving every human being and some human beings cannot be saved as they are Satan people. Jesus explains this in the parable of the wheat and the tares. Satan has scattered his seed somehow on this earth.
I Also think it’s worth pointing out that in many cases homosexuality is the result of sexual, physical, emotional, verbal or some type of abuse.
1 Timothy 2:4-
New King James Version
who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. John 3:16- For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whomsoever shall believe in him shall not perish but have everlasting life. So God does desire for all to be saved and none to be lost. It's the people who won't turn to God but God's door is always open to them.
@@cochisecarter6298 John 3:16 says He paid for the whole world. That's obvious. 1 Timothy 2:4-5 is problematic but can be interpreted as all "types" of men based on the context. So I have a response to that and it's not a stretch based on what that chapter is discussing. How would you resolve the entire 9th chapter of Romans.
Also, what is the difference that makes a person believe? When 2 different people hear the same message, why does one believe and the other not. Is there something intrinsically better in the one that believes? If that is the case, there is something to boast about in the individual that gets saved. I'm not trying to be difficult or ugly or argumentative. But Ephesians 2 says that we were DEAD in trespasses and sins. A dead person cannot respond to God unless God first gives them the capacity to respond. Why doesn't God give the capacity to respond to all equally if His desire is to save every human?
@jogo8261 To be fair, most modern English translations in the Bible for homosexuality are inconsistent with the closest definition in Scripture. Many moments that mention the word homosexuality in the original languages is referring to effeminate like men or men and women sleeping with each other. Also, by any chance, are you a Calvinist?
Amen
I would like to remind my brothers and sisters in Christ that just as AIDS in and of itself is not a sin but simply the consequences of sexual sins. So is same sex attraction in and of itself is not a sin but the consequences of sin as explained in Romans 1:25-27. I believe that so many times we forget that same sex attraction which precede homosexual behavior is the result of God's judgment upon those who have exchanged the truth of God for a lie and who worship and serve the creature more than the Creator. It's something to think about!
Any affect, attitude, thought or behavior that influences the heart but does not reflect back God's created natural order and holy character is sin. We all struggle with a sin propensity as a consequence of the Fall. All of fallen humanity must struggle against proclivities toward selfishness, hatred, pride, jealousy, idolatry and ungodly or uncontrolled lusts for sensual pleasures of the flesh that fall outside of the will of God because they do not glorify and reveal His true nature. Though we will never fully overcome every attack from our fallen nature, we still recognize them as being sinful and something to strive against. Same sex attraction is not a special category of the sin nature that should be viewed as benign. We are called to continually mortify our sinful flesh even at the thought level, not excuse it as being outside of ourselves because of the Fall. The first step to receive the overcoming grace needed to mortify our flesh daily is to agree with God by faith about what is sin. Grace works through faith, not through enabling pragmatism. May I suggest that you listen to the testimony and some insightful teachings from Rosaria Butterfield? They may help give you at least consider a new perspective that may even lead to you being instrumental in supporting someone struggling with same sex attraction to freedom. ❤
Sin is the transgression of the law. I JOHN 3:4. In II Timothy 2:22 we are told to flee youthful lust. So are you saying that when we are tempted with lust that we have sinned even though we have resisted the temptation? (See James 1:14,15) Notice it says when lust has conceived it brings forth sin. Meaning when lust have conceived in your heart than and only than is it called sin. (See Matthew 5:28)