The Tech that's Saving VR: Inside-out Tracking
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Teasing us with stock footage of Max. How dare you.
Where did max go?
@@Brandman88 quit many months ago, she was on a wan show her last day
@@bradhaines3142 I remember that mainboard drop... AMD RYZEN 7 REVIEW... WE DROP IT
Wait is Max back
@@darealkingbob5751 no it's old B roll footage, presumably from when they looked at that headset originally. 6:28
Not sure how I feel about self driving cars built around SLAM Tech.
Not sure how I feel about cars being driven by humans at this point. Self driving cars are already better than most humans at driving, and that is a fact.
But people love to drive so ...
I am in favor of cars that drive on their own ... at least until they try to dominate the human race
@@pkilljoy5797 I am pretty sure he was making a pun
@@morphsuitmeele1171 i thought that would have been obvious🤦♂️ lol 🤣
@@pkilljoy5797 it was definitely a joke about the tech being called slam while dealing with cars
MAX the "NAIL DROPPER" :D
I`ve got one suggestion: Please make future techquickies à la dark mode, so we will be able to watch them at night without having to replace out eyes multiple times a week. Thanks :)
I have a suggestion, don't watch them at night. It's a massive hassle to change the entire art direction of a series, and most assets don't have a clear background, which would mean photoshopping everything with a white background to meet your very specific requirements.
Why are you awake at night? Sleep. SLEEP. SLEEEEEP!
@@TPF00T this is definitely chroma key solid white. Pretty easy to change
@@reachtrev69 Not in your assets my boy. Stock images, any diagram, screenshots of articles. Anything they want to show, but they haven't personally made will be chroma key solid white my guy. They could definitely change it, but it's a ton of work, all because people haven't figured out that night time is for sleeping.
Watch it in the morning
TPF00T Shure, it may be some extra work, but you can either be mad about people watching it at night and asking for it to be dark or you accept that more and more people will eventually watch it at night and act accordingly :)
SLAM is an example of coming up with the acronym first, then the words.
Personally I think a combination of outside and inside out tracking complimenting each other is where VR will end up. Both have their strengths and weaknesses, but together they can balance out those weaknesses, and if necessary they can work on their own to a lesser extent. As for wireless, we've seen that it's possible with the vive wireless addon, and once eye tracking and foveated rendering are properly solved, I'm assuming it would be little enough data to transfer even for higher resolution/refresh rate headsets.
In short, I can't wait for the future of VR! It has so much potential, and hopefully it will be realized soon.
Me: "Interesting tech!"
Sees Zuckerberg.
"Nevermind..."
Microsoft did it first, and they have done it very well. Windows Mixed Reality (WMR) headsets have been out for 2 years now, can be used with any game that the HTC Vive can be, have much less Screen Door effect, higher resolution, cost much less, and are portable, as in "open up your laptop in a new place for the first time, plug in the headset, spend about 30 seconds tracing your boundary if you want a full play-space, and then launch whatever Steam game / app you were going to use.
I know Linus gave a bad review to the Acer version of the Microsoft WMR baseline spec, stating that he couldn't tell who it was for. But that was at the $400 price point. They never sold at that price. They sold at $200, often less. I got mine for free with a laptop purchase in December of 2017.
The Samsung Odyssey (+) has a higher-res OLED pentile display, and was much more justified being at the $400 price point.
But the portability of these things- not needing to install anything in your living room, or wherever you take it is king. I've taken mine to a party at friends' houses many times, because it's entertaining watching people flail at Beat Saber.
Yeah, can't wait for big company to finally know exactly how my room is/know what's inside it.
@@jyuppiter4540 you can watch the traffic. There's no uploading going on. Further, the cameras on the WMR headsets are surprisingly bad. You can see their output (VGA). It's... bad. Like if you were wearing the headset and typing, you wouldn't be able to read the letters on the keyboard, though the Windows key is pretty recognizable.
@@ahgflyguy It won't be bad forever. I'd imagine the plan is to eventually make it good enough to make data sellable with the product. Facebook bought oculus for a reason, and I doubt it was just to sell headsets.
@@ahgflyguy Microsoft doing it first isn't much better, if at all. Up until about 10 or 15 years ago they were called The Evil Empire by people in the tech industry. I don't know why they aren't anymore though, their methods haven't changed much. Honestly, If you look at Windows 10 and their "Desktop as a Service" crap, I'd argue they've gotten worse.
I still prefer outside-in tracking with steam lighthouses. Depending on the application there is a huge noticable difference in tracking of the Oculus Rift s / Quest vs. the HTC Vive or Valve Index. Also, it's not such a big deal to spend 15 minutes installing the lighthouses *once*. After that you can forget them and you don't even have to worry about the lighting like you have for inside-out tracking.
Its like ps4 vs switch. You could plug it in and be tethered, but why would you? The convenience of using it anywhere outshines anything tethered. And fwiw, as an owner of both the vive and quest, the tracking is identical minus occlusion spots (they both have them, dont kid yourself)
For example, people usually dont bring this up but since the vive is tethered to a PC you likely have a PC desk / bed in your room. Vive will struggle under the desk, or other furniture where quest will not.
@@pkilljoy5797 I'm not talking about tethered vs untethered, i'm just saying that i got better tracking experiences with lighthouse tracking than with any other headset.
About the occlusion problem under a table: Why would you want to sit on your desk? Just move the chair in the middle of the playspace and it will work perfectly. And if you got a steering wheel you won't be needing tracked controlers anyway and the HMD will track just fine from the side.
Lighthouse is technically inside out btw
@@thesral96 I don't think outside-in is that much better, I own Rift S, and I tried Vive Pro at my friends house and I didn't see any difference in tracking.
The Steam Lighthouses are inside out tracking but with markers. The lighthouses provide these markers with strobe lights and lasers in the infrared spectrum (so not visible for the human eye).
3-6 feet apart for Oculus yeah...I've had my HTC base stations more than 22 feet apart and they've worked flawlessly since April 2016 and continue to work with my Index.
Oculus = Facebook, always remember. The Valve solution will ALWAYS be my #1 for that reason. And, I'm from the future and inside-out tracking kind of sucks ass. My Quest 2 randomly just... gyrates in a well-lit room while I'm not moving at all. It's a little sickening and takes me out of experiences like Half-Life: Alyx
@@Cobalt985 I'm from the future and the new Quest Pro controller completely fixes all the issues with the quest 2's inside out tracking. No more dead zones or issues with the controller too close to your face. It's basically as good as the Valve index tracking while being inside out tracking.
Everyone's waiting for full dive VR like in Sword Art Online or Accel World.
Everyone is waiting for Boneworks & Half-Life VR.
Do you mean like an intense game? Play Onward or Echo Arena.
@@user-hk5fo1nm9h Full dive means going inside the game to play it while your real body relaxes on a bed. Watch Sword Art Online.
@@Xeno_Bardock That would end humanity. I just want a good VR treadmill so I can walk around.
Full dive? I think the body will practically suffer and illness will be easier to obtain, so soon you will spend more time in a hospital, rather than playing.
yeah, sure, nice vr stuff. But how is max doing?
BRING MAX BACK
3:00 Suuuuure because the PC is just decoration ... and isn't actually needed to provide the heavy lifting of computing the game ... but sure run that on your phone I'm sure that'll work fine.
And that inside out tracking needs a lot more computing power (also less accurate) won't make the problem worse.
linus: normal talking voice
then
Linus: SLAAAAAM TECH
"Sensorless" VR does not *save* VR, it merely helps more people get into VR and makes them want more powerful VR. (E.G. Oculus Rift S, HTC Vive or Valve Index)
agreed. VR doesnt need "saving" as its not on the way out in any sense of the word. What VR needs is more companies investing in software, but thats improving daily already
@Frederick Röders The thing about VR is that its supposed to be immersive. Quest doesnt do that. Its heavy and bulky, in addition to the fact that you still need controllers, that in fact, still need buttons to funtion properly (E.G. throwing things still need a physical button on most VR headsets. The only headset to truly get this right is the Valve Index, which is also supposedly the most comfortable headset thanks to its headstrap. And that you saying people didnt rush out to buy a Vive back when it came out? Thats due to how much is cost back then. 899 US Dollars for a VR headset was too much of an investment for people. And a 399 USD pricetag for a Rift S today, is still that. VR is expensive. Quest is merely a middlepoint to market. Im sure Facebook and Oculus will launch a high end VR headset again that people will actually buy.
Bringing VR to the masses with good fidelity and good immersion is hard.
Personally, VR was a hard investment for me, i had to go out of my way to buy a 1st gen headset used to even get into VR properly.
I'm happy with my inside-out tracking VR headsets. I just have to be a bit careful where my hands go, in relation to my view, from time to time.
Does it get more people into VR? The people i've talked to said they would never try VR anymore because they got sick right away. Low screen refreshrates and less snappy in general. In my opinion these standalone devices are more destroying VR than saving it.
I switched from a rift to a rift s and have to say I use it more because of the convenience of the new tracking. My space is pretty limited so the sensors got moved all the time. It should help grow the user base.
Outside in tracking, or SteamVR Basestation laser tracking provides the absolute best tracking experience and also provides additional tracker possibilities. Inside out is just not a good idea if you’re at all serious about VR. Setting up isn’t an issue at all, you do it once at keep it there for years, a textbook non-issue.
The editing around 5:00 is incredible
whenever you said anything about SLAM, it actually triggered my traumatic experience trying to develop those robots that uses it.
Oooh Max was in it! We still miss her!
We could definitely use some 6 GHz Wifi here.
Nobody else thinks VR is endangered except this channel for some reason. This is the only place I hear language like "saving VR." VR is popular high-end entertainment that's doing pretty well for itself.
Woah someone actually credited Yahtzee for that meme.
Also, can confirm, SLAM is hard. I've used it in robots and many issues, including the occlusion you mentioned but also sensor drift (shakes fist at IMUs), sensor noise, interference (like the sunlight you mentioned for optical sensors), highly reflective or transparent materials (affects optical sensors like cameras and LIDARs), and more are still challenges that must be accounted for.
"VR is dead", "VR is saved" One day Linus will make his mind up.
Hi you use gtx 1060 6gb right? Is it good for vr? Can you run most games?
When did Linus techtips make a video on oculus quest?
Never, it was weird to see that clip in this video, guess it hasn't been uploaded yet
Hey Linus, is that a custom headset to fit around your hair?
I appreciate the mention of outside-in headsets in a video about how inside-out tracking is saving VR.
For me, and I know I'm not alone, VR is about the most immersive experiences and highly immersive experiences that simply cannot be had in the real world.
The Valve Index is certainly the best at offering the most immersive experience in a consumer package, so that's the one I'm currently enjoying.
One day, I'd like a mobile inside-out tracked HMD that has all the visual and auditory qualities of a great tethered HMD; preferably one that can also be tethered to a powerful PC to offer those high fidelity experiences when not on the go, so I don't feel the need to buy two and probably end up just sticking with a PC VR headset like I have up to this point.
Well you better be enjoying it considering how expensive it is
@@DeosPraetorian Yeah, I had to step back and think about the price for a little while before deciding on the Index. It was a noticeable improvement over my Rift CV1, which I had pre-ordered years ago. I had skipped the Rift S because of all the compromises they made; as they said, it is not Rift 2.
@6:30, In Memory of Max.........how we all miss her...
Oculus quest video not yet out on RUclips, it's the second time this far that I recognized such a thing happening with you guys!
this
So we know that its coming soon.
lol thank you i was just about to search for it . ugh
idan rom dude take a deep breath. Who the hell cares. Watch it when it comes online. Or skip it. You’re making it out to be way more important than it is
@@codycast I just like exaggerating in general mate/maam, it's actually really fun, you should probably try it sometime yourself!
As someone who owns an Inside Out tracking Headset (Samsung Odyssey+) I'm of the opinion that exterior tracking is still necessary for a top tier experience.
BTW, the O+ is a fantastic deal considering that it is on sale for just $350 very often and has the same resolution as the Vive Pro, with Anti-SDE filters on the lens.
Actually just checked and on Samsung's website its only $299. Best value for any 6 DOF headset on the market.
Sean Stock and an OLED screen. I would like to have one for a few very dark games.
You know what would be nice, if they could use regular webcams to help track when your controllers do go out of sight from headset. Would be a very cheap simple solution for most of us to help with that issue, and its with readily available hardware. Plus it could even help with mapping. food for thought.
If only LTT videos were VR, then we too could pretend to be important people to unimportant people...
Steam VR with base stations is better. My index is way better than any inside out headset even with 1.0 base stations (2.0 are sub milimeter accurate with a wider fov). The quest is great for mobile VR, but for the desktop it’s not as important. 2.0 base stations are more lenient too so you can just put them on tables or something. Line of sight is not a big deal because PC VR has a short range and you need a rectangle either way. As for the sensors, set the mounts on your walls. Steam should make it remember your boundaries but I don’t think it’s nearly as bad as people say. More important is that the limits of inside out tracking will be integrated into gaming which means games can’t be as complex or relaxed if it’s bad enough.
The Quest is great. Not as good as PC and it never will be, but it’s nice for taking to parties or for smaller applications. As long as people don’t try and pit them against each other.
Fun fact: the Index & everything lighthouse tracked is inside out. Even the controllers.
The lighthouse boxes are IR lasers and not actual sensors. That's why there's no connection to the PC necessary.
@@zamundaaa776 I know, but most people call them sensors for some reason.
@@zamundaaa776 It still seems to be better than the quest and rift s versions of inside out. I'm upgrading to the valve index soon as i have the money. Never bothered with the S. Til then i'm gonna keep the CV1.
@@KaiFulci yes it is a great deal better. Happy Index owner for a reason :)
If you have the GPU power (and in lower resolution of not) you're gonna love the high refresh rate. It makes Beat Saber soo much more fluent. The difference is astounding and yet not really quantifiable.
I used the Rift S for two days and returned it. The reason is that I wont go on a closed store like the Facebook store to buy VR games. Using steam is hard because the camera passthrough when making sure you stand in a save spot with space or looking for controllers is hidden in a setting in the Oculus VR overlay. Let us start about setup. You start the Oculus VR software - the headset starts with only a usb 3.0 and Displayport cable. Then you start Steam VR if the game is on steam or a modded older game that of cource should use the steam VR foundation. It may crash. Playing games that are reconized by Oculus will have a reset camera function to center your view to the the or sit or stand up and not be 3m tall. The overlay by oculus can give you passthrough to see the world but is hidden under the clock tab. When you start a Steam game like Audio Shield. After every game the VR can crash. Steam VR stutters extremely because Oculus is not well supported as I knew but is even unusable. Starting a Steam VR game or a modded game will result into the Valve VR overlay replacing the Oculus VR overlay so you can not use the cammeras view to see the world like with a button press on a HTC / Valve controller or Valve Index. The controllers cant be turned off with removable AA batteries (1 each controller). The the inner hand button is often pressed because it is a disaster of a design. The tracking is bad but ok and once steam tried to do the VR setup that only works with Steam roomscale laser thingy.
TL;DR Use a Vive 1 if you can get over the bad resolution. Oculus Controller su***. Valve Controller can can break but is better. All mods for old games on earth work better on HTC Vive with lasers and original Valve controller than anything from oculus and you still might be able to hack support for the Oculus Store for Vive.
Funny you mentioned Lenovo for companies that were on the inside out tracking first, then mention innovations by Oculus - the Rift S is made by Lenovo and has their brand written right on the front of it.
Max, I miss you 3000
Outside in tracking is significantly better than inside out.
With outside in, you don't lose tracking when your controllers move behind you, under you, etc. With inside out tracking you also cannot have tracked objects or full body tracking because the HMD simply cannot see the entire room to track objects behind it.
Outside in tracking is one of the primary advantages the Valve Index enjoys over the sad new Occulus Rift S.
Playing red matter on quest is proof that even it's outdated snapdragon is capable of beautiful graphics and ALVR is(sometimes) really astounding. I'm sure the next gen will have much better hardware options and higher end wifi for PC streaming. Either way, vr is only getting better.
Man it's been forever since I've seen Max in a video
Inside out tracking doesn't get rid of the need for a PC. See the Rift S. All inside out tracking (which is cool) does is, well, track from the inside out. The HMD itself is the key to success, being able to render games without a pc, see the Quest.
My biggest issue with VR isn't tracking, it's the low resolution of the display. Because it's so close to your eyes, you can usually see individual pixel blocks even on otherwise high res screen.
I miss Max.
they did figure out the resolution issues and can now have higher refresh rates but its still not as powerful as full on desktop VR the only thing I care about is that it does lower the bar for people to get into VR and for that I am excited
I have an Oculus Quest, finally took the dive and omg. Its amazing. This tech is crazy, it just works! No wires, no nothing. It has saved VR.
Hand model makes a cameo, always welcome
I had purchased a samsung odyssey plus Windows MR VR headset and I had lots of occlusion problems when reaching in a different direction that i was looking. it was a FANTASTIC experience for sim racing and flight simulation using external controls (a wheel and pedal set and a HOTAS respectively) but the touch controllers lost tracking enough to be annoying. outside in tracking via steamvr's lighthouse technology (which is technically assisted inside out with the sensors on the headset and the controllers) or oculus' webcam "sensors" was a significantly better experience. I hypothesise that as the technology improves and gets less expensive, they'll just start putting full dedicated 6dof camera-based inside-out trackers on the controllers as well as the headsets with high refresh cameras to do indipendent controller tracking but that day isn't here yet. until then steasmvr 2.0, while a bit on the expensive (valve index, index controllers, and base stations currently go for something like $1200, it's still the best way to play vr titles today... controller occlusion isn't something i can live with, nor is the low resolution, low refresh, low poly count exeperiences on the quest. i'm sure the tech will improve, but until you can cram a 2080 ti and a 9900k into a headset, it just isn't going to happen.
Inside-out tracking is something like the Lighthouse system.
Trackerless inside-out tracking is something like WMR, Rift S and Cosmos
Light houses are better
And may be possible to add full body tracking with it
Inside out tracking is more convenient and good enough
It's like Pc and Console you want it all pc or the necessary consoles
I want to be able to play an MMO with MMO seat time in VR. That's my dream.
I'm down with wireless, but batteries and such are going to be the issue. We're going to need cords somewhere, even thin tethers with ceiling mounts would work, and or easily swappable batteries we can literally swap with our gear still on.
I don't know how we'll ever have these games without people ruining them by playing at a desk, but I want it.
MAX......please come back!!
I'm using a rift S since I do my gaming on a Rtx laptop, love the portability without sacrificing on power.
Is it good?
@@Pixel-oo7vw the laptop the rift S or Vr in general?....yes
Rift s
What are the specs of the laptop?
@@Pixel-oo7vw Msi GE63 Raider Rgb with RTX2080(full PC non max Q version), I7 8750h, 16gb ram max 32gb 2x slots, though I just upgraded from a Rog strix 2 gl502VM (I think) laptop with a gtx1060 and it ran most games just fine though on some more demanding games could drop a few frames but clumsy me dropped it so yay new laptop lol.
I don't understand why nobody appreciates Windows Mixed Reality
it brought the technology, it's affordable and great and it never failed me
I liked it, but it kept messing me up when I got relatively good at Beat Saber. Because it only has two cameras, it can only see your controllers if YOU can see them. Now I use a Rift S, and I like that too. (Also, the Rift S has room for my glasses)
@@roflBeck
that's interesting, I play beat saber quite a lot and with the WMR, I never had any problems, I could wear my glasses underneath the Lenovo Explorer and the tracking fov for the controllers is actually a bit bigger than your fov inside the headset (at least it seemed like that to me) and with a well lit room, I never had any tracking problems whatsoever.
Guess it depends quite a lot on your surroundings (?) I once used the Rift S in an electro store and it wobbled all the time and didn't quite get where my hands are.
Yeah, I have the Asus one. I mean, I can get my glasses in there as well but they get foggy INSTANTLY. As for lighting, I'm noticing that WMR needs more light than the Rift S. With two lights in my room it worked well, but sometimes gave me boundary errors in the dark corners. My new Rift doesn't have that issue and even seems to work with just one of those lights on. You tried a display model? I'm guessing since stores are full of lights and shiny surfaces it was throwing the headset off.
@@roflBeck That's very likely that the display model was just distorted. Btw I just have one light in the center of the roof and a big window but the room ain't that big so idk.
Gonna eventually upgrade to something with more cameras in the next years ^^ perhabs there will be WMR2, would be nice :)
@@lemphl Yeah true, some next gen WMR sets with more cameras in them would be nice.
Just replace it with qr code stickers that have those wireless computers that sim cards and credit cards have along your play area in easy to see areas.. like they do it for mobile games.. just send radio from the headset outward to make the computer from the small chip in the QR code sticker say "hey what's up"
What about some of the hard core processing being done by computer, which is then wirelessly fed in to the device over, maybe a dedicated wifi/lifi channel?
And then have the mobile processing do the on-board tracking and taking in the data from the computer?
this is the ideas how to fix those issus
-lighting can cause lose track : use night vision cameras instead of regular ones
-heavy problem : make the battery(the heavyset part) in the back of the head , so the weight balance
-lose track because of the hands or joysticks: wear a special gloves that lights in a special way , that can camera detect them and avoid it
6:29 hey Max :3
I dunno if inside-out tracking is "saving" VR, but I think it will indeed be a step in the right direction in terms of making it appeal to the general consumer, who favors convenience and comfort over technical fidelity. For me, I'd rather the precision and greatly reduced occlusion that comes with something like the Lighthouse system.
I'm personally not particularly bothered with cables and tracking sensors, it's the lack of triple A quality games that bugs me about VR
I bought a Quest. LOVE IT
Personally, I like Inside out tracking more. I can walk outside the boundary, I don't have to worry about walking too close to a sensor and the setup is just so simple. The only downside is that you can't put your hands behind your back(for long anyways)
Gotta leave a comment regarding all-in-one headsets not working outdoors.
While it may be true that sun interferes with trackers, it’s also true that this summer I used Oculus Quest in a forest, in relatively bright sunlight. Just throwing it out there
4:24 why not have the headset be able to sync to your pc via software so that the pc basically becomes a temporary cloud and processing unit for the headset? that could be a viable option so solve that issue.
You can with Apps, but Oculus doesn't offer it through 1st party software because then it gets people to buy 2 headsets.
VR will never really take off until stellar motion images become a reality on computers of all types so ultra-high refresh rates and framerates (at least 1000fps&Hz) and good display technology capable of doing low frame persistence in combination with these ultra high refresh rates. MicroLED is the only modern/future tech currently known that is capable of such things.
Seriously the tracking on the quest is downright effin magic.
I have a Quest (and PSVR and Rift) and honestly can’t really tell the difference between 72 Hz and the original Rift’s 90 Hz. Sure, you definitely lose a bit of graphical fidelity but it’s not nearly as bad as you’d expect and the resolution bump and better lenses (and no cord!) more than make up for it.
The Real question is is Max back?
I can confirm valve index tracking is quite reliable while gaming, tho I'd always recommend a 3 way setup of base stations just to be sure.
Actually it is pretty interesting .... and you don't necessarily have to give up on the quality of the games .... you can integrate a good monitor ( 4k 144Hz HDR and whatever you want) all the necessary sensors ( gyros LIDAR sonic) a good battery and a wireless module and you're done .... all the the processing power can be made by an external unit ( also off-shore see Google and nvidia)and send all the data through a dedicated channel
Thank you for including the meters in the measurement.
Inside out tracking is great for the industry to create a large consumer base for cost and logistics as you describe. But fixed base stations are still better for gaming in the current generation offerings.
Short comings of outside-in and inside-out tracking aside, the real problem with VR right now is content. For one thing it's being segregated and put into different walled garden's through the closed off ecosystem approach, which makes it even more difficult for large publishers to be willing to risk the cash investing in a project that is only available in one place and catering to a tiny market. Right now though is the perfect time for Valve to start telling us about their new VR games. PC gaming desperately needs some good news right now, and with all the Epic Game Store shenanigans going on, this would be the time to remind people why we all fell in love with Valve decades ago.
i love VR+AR+finger and body tracking (Valve Index). Let's buy VR. Let's not let it die again. It can be bough in long interest free installments.
Another problem I have with inside out as a WMR user is the battery drain on the controllers. On amazon rechargeable I'm able to get maybe 2 hours of play time out of them. Non rechargeable will last like 5 or 10 hours... point is the battery life is piddly.
The first time I used a VR headset, I almost strangled myself on the heavy VR wires.
Still prefer Outside-In sensors. Inside-Out is neat until you get in multitasking games that require you to hold things while looking away the slight inaccuracies of relative placement calculations become apparent real quick as your finger comes off of small bottons and things of the sort.
2:55 ~ What you project forward through the lens, seen through the camera, determines right to burn or left to watch.
or left to burn and right to watch. ~ #LeftBehind. Book or TV Series?
4:00 ~ I am trying to keep up. ~ Discussion of what is a Video Game, ~ Map Explore Games are Lame (Halo with guns, without enemies), or SuperHot Mortal Combat. ~ Yes i liked motal combat, 2D side fighters. Tekken was .... Happier when the collision detection improved. Soul Blade in Arms, Soul Caliber ?#NRA? in the Home, were amazing.
Portal was an introduction or iQ test, or controller coordination test.
I really liked 2D version of Fallout, on the Nvidia Shield Tablet, came included, sort of horrible that my favourite floor plan, self-formed into an upside-down crucifix of make guns and keep aliens out of our military base.
Darpa God got pissed and stole the Tablet from my home,
Darpa God had ordered me to destroy nothing, and not rebuild,
so i created multiple bunkers, then one were i used demolitions lead to making being the lowest priority or furthest from our education and external planet goals.
Just a cross crucifix of this or that gun making, a barbershop, and cosmetics near the guns.
4:00 ~ i apologize, i actually very very much like Riley too. ~ His romance with the camera is not something i feel comfortable about. ~ So it is always, "you good over there?" yeah? good.
5:00 ~ Mobile tweets, mentioning 12 Tribes, including your wife (Hello from the audience), is vomit-inducing.
5:22 ~ yes for a very long time, i have not been able to post to Twitter. Locked out of Twitter on my Pixelbook.
First hackers through my brothers, changing cookie handling,
then my phone refusing to allow me to answer,
refusing to provide text transcripts of voicemails,
and all sorts of confusion where i am using blogger.com, instead of wordpress.com.
Wait is Max back? Or is that just some archive footage????
i think the best application in terms of gaming for VR is still the simulator, for example being able to sit in an aircraft cockpit and manually switching on all systems and being able to look who is behind you in a dogfight
I run SteamVR to my Quest via wireless streaming and it works wonderfully
Is max back?
If inside-out tracking has issues tracking your hand if it's behind you, why not put sensors around the back of the head strap too? Soon as they give PC GPU style decent quality, i'll be interested.
The Oculus launch model had a 90hz refresh as well.
The new Oculus Rift S software has pretty much perfect tracking during sensor occlusion, you can move the controller a lot behind your back without losing much accuracy.
I've always wondered why there wasn't a model with a light backpack.
They could attach additional sensors, add more battery life, and possibly have much better refresh rates via an inventive use of fiber optics.
I have no problem with external sensors. I don't see the problem - if I have the room to play, it's easy enough to setup the sensors. I just wish Valve would announce the wireless adapter for the Index already.
I'm doing a major project using similar on a phone headset for an escape room game
Man i love your videos inspire me to make my own
I’m looking to buy a be headset but now watching this video idek what to buy
Oculus Quest
@@OceanofStarsVR I mean idk tho because there are probably a lot more games on steam and plus the refresh rates are terrible like in what the video said. So I still don't know...
Come on and SLAM, and welcome to the jam!
I have the Rift S and and wished there was something that tracks better at reasonable price. For casual is fine but anything action orientated the short comings become apparent fast.
The Valve Index's 144hz mode is not experimental anymore, its considered fully supported.
Why would you aim down the sights with your hand right next to your face?
You should shoot an informational video in vr from the perspective of the person doing the talking
Kayaba Akihiko: keeping waiting guys, 2022 is near
Unless they start to do heavy processing in clod based service and your mobile-phone will act like client. which should have enough power to do so but than only problem i see will be the latency.
Vr is still in early stage but this will be the thing in 5 to 10 years from now i guess.
Just a note. The Valve Index 144hz mode is no longer 'experimental'. It works perfectly.
the headset tracks itself with cameras, but the hands are tracked by the headest. fix the far away problem or the behind head problem by putting cameras on the hand controllers
I want to see perfected markerless inside out tracking. I own a Windows mixed reality headset and I got to say it is a very good experience for somebody that doesn't have the money to Shell out for a mainstream headset
HTC's HMD from CES uses SLAM for VR.
no shit they said that
Inside out tracking mostly has solved all of those occlusion examples linus stated. Mostly only happened with the WMR headsets. And just because it uses inside out tracking doesn't mean it will be cheaper.
Cheap, like the HTC cosmos?
I think a lot of the "status" that the rift s has is just because of marketing. The inside-out technology has been around for at least 2 years and has been done well before, yet nobody makes a peep about it until Oculus comes out with their hardware because it's advertised everywhere.
Why not combine a shadow cloud computer with your phone on the VR headset? If your connection lasts or you go with 5G this would absolutely work right?