I have a 2022 Kia forge Gt manual and recently drove it on a 1500 mile road trip and on relatively flat road at 72 miles per hour I was able to get 40mpg on a tank of gas. At speeds around 75 mph I averaged 37 mpg
I just drove a 500 mile trip around 80mph and got a solid 37.2mpg. ( that included traffic and some decent hill grade climbs up to 4200ft elv. ) I'm dct and had the ac on. The fact I got 250 miles on a half tank blew my mind!
What Kia tells you the mpg is is not correct. I have a 22 gt line forte. I get over 40 mpg at 75 on cruise control. It’s a great little car and has everything you need for creature comforts. I love it.
Normal mode would have been the more efficient drive mode, because smart mode toggles between normal and sport depending on your driving characteristics. So if you did somehow cause it to go into sport, enticed by throttle position, steering, or braking, that could have crippled it's ultimate mpg number. Smart is NOTHING like an eco mode. Great mpg finding and video though.
Well maybe not an equal mode per se but let's say you're on a straight road doing 70 mph at all times on cruise control the smart mode switches you to eco mode it doesn't switch just from normal to sport it actually switches to eco so the smart mode goes from eco-normal and sport when you need it it actually very good and comes in handy I always leave my car in smart mode
@@cptn.obvious But there isn't an eco mode to switch to. We have a palisade that has eco/normal/sport drive modes. We keep it in smart ALL the time, because when driving leisurely, it stays in eco. That is also the way I would drive the Forte GT if it was mine, smart mode, despite not having a designated eco mode. However, when faced with the possibility of switching to the higher rpm that sport mode holds, it wouldn't be the ultimate for mpg. Normal would be that nice balance between the 2, and the closest to an eco mode over sport or smart.
@@wbwayne8887 yes you are correct there is no direct eco mode but in Smart mode it switches to eco mode for you if you're coasting on the highway so you can't switch directly into eco mode but Smart mode does it for you so technically the card does have an Eco normal and sport mode but you can't switch directly into equal unless you're in the smart mode
@@wbwayne8887 lol no problem I'm sorry I own the forte i always leave in smart because honestly it's the best of bother worlds like you stated in your Palisades which is a beautiful car if I'm not wrong because at least In Mary mode it stays in eco most of the time unless I need a boost it switches for me to sport when I press the pedal to the metal so I guess all Hyundai and Kia have pretty much the same mode setup
I own a 2023 forte GT DCT and the car is unbelievable the mileage is in the 30’s around town in sport mode and I have been in the 40’s on the highway. Unfortunately this car will be discontinued in 2025 say goodbye to the greatest bargain of a sports car you could possibly purchase. I paid $26,000 for mine the new k4 will be watered down with a big price increase.
My Forte GT 6 spd manual gets 40 mpg, according to math calculations I did at the pump. So Kia lied when they claim it only gets 32 mpgs on the highway 😂. I drive conservatively though.
I dont understand how suvs are getting similar mpg as their sedan counterparts. Shouldnt cars be getting much better mileage being smaller, lighter and generally less wind resistant?
I always wondered this it's feels like mpg has not gotten any better in the last 20 years my 97 civic i used to drive averaged about 37 mpg then again engine these days have more horsepower and are still getting decent gas mileage
Weight is only a factor when accelerating up to speed - once at speed it makes no difference to fuel consumption, it's all wind and tyre/rolling resistances and light-load tuning of the engine. Longer roofed vehicles tend to have better aerodynamics than a short-roofed vehicle (i'm being very generalistic). Then it's down to frontal area and rolling resistance of the tyres which are very finely designed these days. The final thing is the light load engine tuning, with the ECU running an "Atkinson cycle" -style mapping at light throttle (eg: highway cruising), then morphing in to a traditional Otto cycle mapping when you put your foot down. There's way more detail than I have space for here, but that's a very brief overview
I’ve gotten 650 miles on a single tank in a forte. Sounds ludicrous but the trick is you have to drive the car with the pedal and not use cruise control. CC actually downshifts your vehicle making it rev to a higher rpm. If you have a trained foot, easily make better gas mileage through pure foot endurance
@@Xyz_Litty I figured since its a Turbo and GDI it may need the premium. I have a 2022 Forte GT (DCT) ordered; should be here anyday/week and doing some research on whats best fuel grade for it as well as best 5W-30 Full Synthetic oil for it.
@@jeremymateo1975 I use 89 (midgrade) east coast quality fuel and DAs. I used 93 for the first 3 months of ownership, 89 since ~9k miles to now 24k miles with no issues… performs the same.
@@jeremymateo1975 Yeah I promise you I've read the user manual before anything ... It States Cleary Regular OR Above... Considering Gas prices Regular is beyond the way to go .... Also i only service oil changes @ KIA ... Your 1st oil change should be at 1,000-1,200 Miles .. Then you can go the full 5-6K Oil changes ... Break her in at 600 Miles before going over 4K RPM
Maybe try the adaptive cruise in normal and sport mode to see how it reacts when passing. Maybe the car takes a bit to pick up because it’s trying to save fuel.
in town i would agree, but on the highway with cruise control on, the final drive ratio is the final drive ratio. You cant get more efficient than that in this car car.
This was one of the vehicles people allegedly complained about not meeting its EPA rating. I proved them wrong by specifically asked to rent the 2014 Hyundai Elantra for a road trip from Columbus, OH to Charlotte, NC and back. I've gotten 42mpg driving through the mountains, and 45 mpg on leveled elevation at the speed limit in Normal Mode. It goes to show that you can't trust everything what people say online.
@Ed Findlay Because according to the owners manual, it recommans premium. This means I can put both 87 octane and 93 octane. Not always but sometimes performance cars say premium only get better MPG putting premium than 87 octane.
I’ve never gotten the mpg or better with Kia. I was looking in the new sportage hybrid and there’s estimates it’s only getting 30mpg. Kia mpg has never been accurate.
Theirs nothing performance about a 200hp car unless it weighs well under 3000lbs 200hp and 2300lbs will be a pretty peppy bitch persey. It'll perform like a 300hp car that weighs 3300lbs. This is a dope car for what it is I'd like to see the reverse lights and blinkers move into the tail lights where they belong, that weird tail light center section disappear. Better ambient lighting a gauge cluster like the stinger with the screen in the middle covering the whole area. Better infotainment screen the stinger and genisis cars have nice screens. With where they seem to be going I'm hoping hyundai nline performance stuff works its way into the gt call it a gt3 package maybe even a gt4 package where it gets the 300hp/300tq awd setup the k5 has. People are practically begging for it
My issue is that, sure, its cheap, but a Ford Maverick can get 37mpg combined, can tow 2K-4Klbs, has as much or more passenger room, costs about the same, and the bed is way bigger and more flexible than the small trunk on a sedan. If only they made more. If the Forte GT were at least a liftback so I could fold the seats down and get more room, that would at least make it a little more practical, but nope. :(
But theyre not in the same class ? One is a light compact that is fun to toss around and do some spirited driving in, while still being able to get good mpg’s if wanted. You cant toss around a truck lol center of gravity and about 700 lbs heavier.
@@M4B21S88 They aren't, but this isn't boxing with laws restricting me to a class. If I have $25K in my checking account, and I want say 37mpg, I could buy a Forte or a Maverick. Which is going to be able to haul people and stuff better from point A to point B? I think most would say the Maverick, hence why so many Honda Civic sales were cannibalized by the "not really a truck, truck". While handling is an interesting point, the Maverick was tested at 0.82g on the skidpad with its narrow poopy stock tires, put some wider summer tires on some upgraded wheels on a XL model and it'd be more than quick enough in the twisties for me.
@@BoopSnoot I understand your point. And overall that is why in the US you see an overall trend favoring CUVs/ SUVs over sedans.. Ford has gotten rid of so many of their sedans, for example. This car competes with the Si, without the LSD which, in a straight line at least, doesnt affect it bc the GT is faster than the Si… As much as I may like a suv/truck/cuv Ill never buy one simply bc i enjoy the nimbleness and lower center of gravity from sedans/coupes. The few ppl that buy the GT (most buyers buy entry level engines of most sedans whether compact or midsize), all want the fun of what THIS can offer. And as far as g’s go, the Forte with the summer tires was tested at .93 , if not mistaken, Civic Si at .94-.95 (Edit: the non GT forte is .87 g to give you an idea as to the difference those numbers mean… in terms of HANDLING - the .82 you quoted vs .93). Just saying, and still stand that you cannot compare the two. Sure, you may crossshop a sedan and a truck but ultimately it comes down to what the buyer values more: fun or practicality. Which brings up why someone looking for space and more practicality would even look at a compact car lol
@@M4B21S88 At the end of the day though, you just have to ask yourself if you're trying to be practical or not. Objectively, sedans are an impractical body design with such tiny trunks. Need to pickup that 85" boxed TV at Costco or 20 bags of mulch at home depot or tow your motorcycle to the shop while still getting 37mpg commuting to work everyday? Forte GT might not even be able to handle 4 people and their luggage to pickup from the airport. So I was just answering the question on why I don't think sedans are more popular compared to crossovers and crossover-based pickups.
btw 100 miles isn't indicative of what a vehicles on highway mileage is. you have to look at a long road trip. get back with me when you do a 1000 mile round trip.
I have a 2022 Kia forge Gt manual and recently drove it on a 1500 mile road trip and on relatively flat road at 72 miles per hour I was able to get 40mpg on a tank of gas. At speeds around 75 mph I averaged 37 mpg
Nice! All while being fun to drive. What were your RPMs sitting at around 70?
@@ericharrison619 about 3000ish at 70. 6th gear isn’t a very tall gear
I just drove a 500 mile trip around 80mph and got a solid 37.2mpg. ( that included traffic and some decent hill grade climbs up to 4200ft elv. ) I'm dct and had the ac on. The fact I got 250 miles on a half tank blew my mind!
@@240trooper nice. That’s pretty good at 80 mph.
California highway drove 13 miles care read 15.6 at 48.7 mpg
I recently received my order of the 2023 Forte GT (stick shift) in Steel Gray. My wife and I love the car!
What Kia tells you the mpg is is not correct. I have a 22 gt line forte. I get over 40 mpg at 75 on cruise control. It’s a great little car and has everything you need for creature comforts. I love it.
I have a 24 GT and I can’t wait to try her out on the first “long distance” trip
I got 42 mpg while going to DC very nice and smooth fun fact the trunk is size as a kona trunk area
My 2020 Forte Gt gets between 37MPG and 40MPG. Love it!! Normal mode.
You gotta be doing highway driving
highway or city
My dad had a 2017 Elantra sport as his commuter car into the city. That car regularly got 38+mpg when it was rated to get 33mpg.
And that had the same powertrain as this, albeit an earlier generation of the 7spd DCT.
Normal mode would have been the more efficient drive mode, because smart mode toggles between normal and sport depending on your driving characteristics. So if you did somehow cause it to go into sport, enticed by throttle position, steering, or braking, that could have crippled it's ultimate mpg number. Smart is NOTHING like an eco mode. Great mpg finding and video though.
Well maybe not an equal mode per se but let's say you're on a straight road doing 70 mph at all times on cruise control the smart mode switches you to eco mode it doesn't switch just from normal to sport it actually switches to eco so the smart mode goes from eco-normal and sport when you need it it actually very good and comes in handy I always leave my car in smart mode
@@cptn.obvious
But there isn't an eco mode to switch to. We have a palisade that has eco/normal/sport drive modes. We keep it in smart ALL the time, because when driving leisurely, it stays in eco. That is also the way I would drive the Forte GT if it was mine, smart mode, despite not having a designated eco mode. However, when faced with the possibility of switching to the higher rpm that sport mode holds, it wouldn't be the ultimate for mpg. Normal would be that nice balance between the 2, and the closest to an eco mode over sport or smart.
@@wbwayne8887 yes you are correct there is no direct eco mode but in Smart mode it switches to eco mode for you if you're coasting on the highway so you can't switch directly into eco mode but Smart mode does it for you so technically the card does have an Eco normal and sport mode but you can't switch directly into equal unless you're in the smart mode
@@cptn.obvious
Ok, I learned something new then. Thank you for those 2 cents Johnny. 🙂
@@wbwayne8887 lol no problem I'm sorry I own the forte i always leave in smart because honestly it's the best of bother worlds like you stated in your Palisades which is a beautiful car if I'm not wrong because at least In Mary mode it stays in eco most of the time unless I need a boost it switches for me to sport when I press the pedal to the metal so I guess all Hyundai and Kia have pretty much the same mode setup
I got 44 mpg driving between 50 to 65 mph.
What type of fuel is this thing taking? Regular or premium?
I have a 22 Kia Forte Gt it's a really fast & good car...
Just bought the same a week ago. 22 forte gt 6MT
I own a 2023 forte GT DCT and the car is unbelievable the mileage is in the 30’s around town in sport mode and I have been in the 40’s on the highway. Unfortunately this car will be discontinued in 2025 say goodbye to the greatest bargain of a sports car you could possibly purchase. I paid $26,000 for mine the new k4 will be watered down with a big price increase.
I quite like the Kia Forte, owned a first gen EX auto, and a second gen SX manual.
GREAT content
Will you be doing a sound system test for the Kia Forte?? I believe there's an option for a Harmon Kardon sound system...
Sure thing! That video will be live on Sunday morning
@@DailyMotor Alright, thanks! Have a great weekend!
I wonder if those dual clutches are good for long term and how well they do in slow-and-go traffic.
My Forte GT 6 spd manual gets 40 mpg, according to math calculations I did at the pump. So Kia lied when they claim it only gets 32 mpgs on the highway 😂. I drive conservatively though.
I dont understand how suvs are getting similar mpg as their sedan counterparts. Shouldnt cars be getting much better mileage being smaller, lighter and generally less wind resistant?
I always wondered this it's feels like mpg has not gotten any better in the last 20 years my 97 civic i used to drive averaged about 37 mpg then again engine these days have more horsepower and are still getting decent gas mileage
Weight is only a factor when accelerating up to speed - once at speed it makes no difference to fuel consumption, it's all wind and tyre/rolling resistances and light-load tuning of the engine. Longer roofed vehicles tend to have better aerodynamics than a short-roofed vehicle (i'm being very generalistic). Then it's down to frontal area and rolling resistance of the tyres which are very finely designed these days. The final thing is the light load engine tuning, with the ECU running an "Atkinson cycle" -style mapping at light throttle (eg: highway cruising), then morphing in to a traditional Otto cycle mapping when you put your foot down. There's way more detail than I have space for here, but that's a very brief overview
They don't. Not real world anyways. All things being equal a lower height sedan will beat an SUV that sits higher and grabs more wind.
They don't in the real world
@@cptn.obvious97 civic weighs like 2300 lbs. most never cars weigh more then they did in the tin can days.
Has anyone actually gotten 500 plus miles on one tank on a long trip? Great Vid btw!
I’ve gotten 650 miles on a single tank in a forte. Sounds ludicrous but the trick is you have to drive the car with the pedal and not use cruise control. CC actually downshifts your vehicle making it rev to a higher rpm. If you have a trained foot, easily make better gas mileage through pure foot endurance
Does it take 87 or 89 gas?
87
What's that app on ur other phone for the miles
What was the fuel range did you get when you first filled up the tank ?
The car needs to rev at 2k in 7th on the highway, that would make it so much better.
great test!
What type of gas did you use in the car (Regular/Midgrade/Premium)?
Kia Recommends Regular for this vehicle ... i own a 2022 GT Manual
@@Xyz_Litty I figured since its a Turbo and GDI it may need the premium. I have a 2022 Forte GT (DCT) ordered; should be here anyday/week and doing some research on whats best fuel grade for it as well as best 5W-30 Full Synthetic oil for it.
@@jeremymateo1975 I use 89 (midgrade) east coast quality fuel and DAs.
I used 93 for the first 3 months of ownership, 89 since ~9k miles to now 24k miles with no issues… performs the same.
@@jeremymateo1975 Yeah I promise you I've read the user manual before anything ... It States Cleary Regular OR Above... Considering Gas prices Regular is beyond the way to go .... Also i only service oil changes @ KIA ... Your 1st oil change should be at 1,000-1,200 Miles .. Then you can go the full 5-6K Oil changes ... Break her in at 600 Miles before going over 4K RPM
@Ed Findlay do you think Exxon Mobil is good gas too? I also have a 22 forte gt
Maybe try the adaptive cruise in normal and sport mode to see how it reacts when passing. Maybe the car takes a bit to pick up because it’s trying to save fuel.
The aggressiveness is actually adjustable. I am not sure if he messed with that setting. Or at least it is on our 2023 GT-Line.
My sister's 2014 Honda Civic behaves in a similar manner when in Eco Mode is activated. Turn Eco Mode and the cruise control will react aggressively.
You are right mate 🧉
Wait, is this substitute topher??
Smart mode just adapts to your driving habits and actually has poor mpg than normal.
in town i would agree, but on the highway with cruise control on, the final drive ratio is the final drive ratio. You cant get more efficient than that in this car car.
Anyone have any advise on whether to run premium or regular fuel?
The Forte GT doesn't recommend or requires premium fuel.
Elantra N line with the smartstream 1.6 gets even better mpg.
Where is the Elantra N line? I went on the website and it doesn’t exist… I don’t get it.
That car is more expensive…
Im getting an average 32 mpg in city driving.
I got 43mpg on cruise control on a 2021 GT
my 2014 kia forte with the 1.8l and 80k miles still gets 38 on the highway. 27 in town. I can do better but I have a heavy go fast foot
This was one of the vehicles people allegedly complained about not meeting its EPA rating. I proved them wrong by specifically asked to rent the 2014 Hyundai Elantra for a road trip from Columbus, OH to Charlotte, NC and back. I've gotten 42mpg driving through the mountains, and 45 mpg on leveled elevation at the speed limit in Normal Mode. It goes to show that you can't trust everything what people say online.
Mine gets like 26 but I have a heavy heavy foot lol
Did you put premium or regular?
@Ed Findlay Because according to the owners manual, it recommans premium. This means I can put both 87 octane and 93 octane. Not always but sometimes performance cars say premium only get better MPG putting premium than 87 octane.
@@fromisheon4867 good luck with these gas prices
@@AvenueD417 longevity of car's lifespan vs gas price. The choice is yours.
I’ve never gotten the mpg or better with Kia. I was looking in the new sportage hybrid and there’s estimates it’s only getting 30mpg. Kia mpg has never been accurate.
WHICH GRAY IS THIS?
Steel Gray, same as mine. The color is beautiful!
Theirs nothing performance about a 200hp car unless it weighs well under 3000lbs 200hp and 2300lbs will be a pretty peppy bitch persey. It'll perform like a 300hp car that weighs 3300lbs. This is a dope car for what it is
I'd like to see the reverse lights and blinkers move into the tail lights where they belong, that weird tail light center section disappear. Better ambient lighting a gauge cluster like the stinger with the screen in the middle covering the whole area. Better infotainment screen the stinger and genisis cars have nice screens.
With where they seem to be going I'm hoping hyundai nline performance stuff works its way into the gt call it a gt3 package maybe even a gt4 package where it gets the 300hp/300tq awd setup the k5 has. People are practically begging for it
A 30 thousand dollars car isn't a economic car 😁 !! Maybe affordable yes 😜
My 2017 kia forte does around 48mpg at 65mph highway, 33 or 35 city
No it doesn't. The car's computer may be telling you it does that, but trust me your forte doesn't get anywhere near 48mpg
You have to do your own calculations…
The comp reads a but higher..
And that goes for most cars.
Always do your own calculations…
My issue is that, sure, its cheap, but a Ford Maverick can get 37mpg combined, can tow 2K-4Klbs, has as much or more passenger room, costs about the same, and the bed is way bigger and more flexible than the small trunk on a sedan. If only they made more. If the Forte GT were at least a liftback so I could fold the seats down and get more room, that would at least make it a little more practical, but nope. :(
But theyre not in the same class ?
One is a light compact that is fun to toss around and do some spirited driving in, while still being able to get good mpg’s if wanted.
You cant toss around a truck lol center of gravity and about 700 lbs heavier.
@@M4B21S88 They aren't, but this isn't boxing with laws restricting me to a class. If I have $25K in my checking account, and I want say 37mpg, I could buy a Forte or a Maverick. Which is going to be able to haul people and stuff better from point A to point B? I think most would say the Maverick, hence why so many Honda Civic sales were cannibalized by the "not really a truck, truck". While handling is an interesting point, the Maverick was tested at 0.82g on the skidpad with its narrow poopy stock tires, put some wider summer tires on some upgraded wheels on a XL model and it'd be more than quick enough in the twisties for me.
@@BoopSnoot I understand your point. And overall that is why in the US you see an overall trend favoring CUVs/ SUVs over sedans.. Ford has gotten rid of so many of their sedans, for example.
This car competes with the Si, without the LSD which, in a straight line at least, doesnt affect it bc the GT is faster than the Si…
As much as I may like a suv/truck/cuv Ill never buy one simply bc i enjoy the nimbleness and lower center of gravity from sedans/coupes.
The few ppl that buy the GT (most buyers buy entry level engines of most sedans whether compact or midsize), all want the fun of what THIS can offer.
And as far as g’s go, the Forte with the summer tires was tested at .93 , if not mistaken, Civic Si at .94-.95 (Edit: the non GT forte is .87 g to give you an idea as to the difference those numbers mean… in terms of HANDLING - the .82 you quoted vs .93).
Just saying, and still stand that you cannot compare the two.
Sure, you may crossshop a sedan and a truck but ultimately it comes down to what the buyer values more: fun or practicality. Which brings up why someone looking for space and more practicality would even look at a compact car lol
@@M4B21S88 At the end of the day though, you just have to ask yourself if you're trying to be practical or not. Objectively, sedans are an impractical body design with such tiny trunks. Need to pickup that 85" boxed TV at Costco or 20 bags of mulch at home depot or tow your motorcycle to the shop while still getting 37mpg commuting to work everyday? Forte GT might not even be able to handle 4 people and their luggage to pickup from the airport. So I was just answering the question on why I don't think sedans are more popular compared to crossovers and crossover-based pickups.
@@BoopSnoot exactly what I said above. Which i edited btw.
Still cannot compare a maverick with a compact sedan.
The q60 RS : 400 hp , gets 35 mpg on the highway.
btw 100 miles isn't indicative of what a vehicles on highway mileage is. you have to look at a long road trip. get back with me when you do a 1000 mile round trip.
lol?
you do it since you know better.
dont need to do all that man
99% of people dont go on 1000 miles trips that often