Why Vegeta Blue is FINALLY GREAT in Dragonball FighterZ
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- Опубликовано: 31 дек 2020
- It's about time.
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I have had a lot of ya'll say that you still agree with the idea from the first video that the Final Flash Asset Flip is way worse than Goku Blue's Kaioken. My point was really more that when I initially compared these two moves, calling one out specifically for reusing animations when the other one also does this (albeit WAY MORE creatively) is pretty hypocritical. I still also think that the Kaioken looks cooler and there was more work put into it, and it is in fact, a GREAT example of asset flipping in a really good way! But these two moves nonetheless belong the same category, despite being guilty of the same thing to varying degrees. Hope that clears up my opinion on the subject.
To be fair on Goku Blue’s lvl 3, they don’t reuse dragon flash fist, or at least not entirely. His body is on a different position. All the rest is true tho, great job.
Very nice
Tbh I'm perfectly fine with vegetas lever 3, there was nothing else he could've done since the anime hadn't gotten to ssbe yet (or even the ToP if I remember correctly) so blue vegeta literally had to do the final flash
@@Not_Claptrap they could have technically given him Gamma Burst Flash from the manga
@@Some_guy_and_his_games that's true, but the games usually go with the anime for these kinds of things
Vegeta blue:
*Started from the bottom now we here*
*started from the bottom now my whole team here*
*started from the bottom now we here*
On a scale of 1to10
>:( Stole my comment
@@_bam_ no he didn’t
So Vegeta Blue never really sucked but MoldyBagel baited ArcSys into buffing him anyway. Smart
5head
....No, he just kinda sucked.
Nah, he definitely sucked.
Nope. He definitely sucked. It’s just that he was slightly better than what moldy portrayed them as in the original video
He was garbage, but not straight up fucking garbage
"Now let's see what the kicks lose to":
U I G O K U
In all honesty I don’t think really anything can beat UI Goku.
(Except Giorno Giovanna-)
But can goku beat ui goku though
XD
@@JugularJohn it would be tie between those 2 honestly, I havnt figured out yet how giorno is gonna actually manage to hurt goku
@@simplysupreme1030 well he theoretically could make a extremely venomous snake that’s stronger than purple haze. Maybe he could. I don’t know how exactly strong GER truly is in terms of physical strength. But he did manage to send a pebble flying, penetrating Diavolo’s skin and shattering a pillar with just a flick of it’s finger.
I need to give ole veggie blue another go
Oh hai there
Yea i suggest u play him mid not point
Oh you watch these too? Dope.
Is it WUAH BAM, WHUA BAM, or just WA BAM? (Also, Hi)
its worth it hes pretty tight now
I love seeing creators that have the balls to say shit like "I fucked up"
best thing to do will always be to own it
@@MoldyBagel and also the fact that you took the steps to further correct what you may have messed up. props my guy
@@MoldyBagel And you still made it entertaining in your own way!
@@MoldyBagel but at what cost
Apparently Goku’s legs
@@MoldyBagel I applaud you for actually owning up. Balls of steel on ya. +++ Respect.
I was just watching the “Why Vegeta Blue Sucks video” when this popped up
Same
Samen't
Same, I was binging this whole “series” the other day.
same
same same
4:54 “It also gives you access to Spirit Bombs if you’re into that sort of thing”
*Sweats in Base Goku main*
pure arousal
*starts to feel the power*
@@MoldyBagel huh
@Jihad Arnold nope galick gun into spirit bomb works anywhere
@@boop7784 ROW ROW, FIGHT THE POWA!
As someone who has heard Bluegeta scream the words “Big bang attack” an uncountable number of times, this video is something from my dreams. Except for the fact that people might actually learn how to deal with Bluegeta.
heh
why did I like it at 69
Finally, here we go. The most anticipated sequal since the lion King 2
this is correct
Lol 😂
@@MoldyBagel seriously man, your content is great. Keep it up.
@@Aethryl thank you!
@@MoldyBagel no ur content is trash
I never actually noticed the animation recycling on Blueku’s level 3. Clever camera work.
definitely tricked me. vegetas is way more obvious
That's the thing, Bluku's lvl3 is a clever reuse of assets. Most people won't even notice unless it gets pointed out to them. Blue Vegeta on the other hand is just the exact same attack. They don't even try to hide it. It would have been cool had they reused some assets and made his self destruct move from the Buu saga his lvl3. Would have been easy too.
Take the charging animation, blocking animation, sparking animation, add some camera work and just recycle the destructive finish screen and boom, it's done. New lvl3
@John Carlton that’s literally Niagara pummel lol
UnderBreak no you're just fucking blind LMAO
It was pretty clear for me when he does the upwards kick. I can tell that the asset was used and figured out that his level 3 is a bunch a reused assets but some I didn’t know.
Everyone : Pretty, happy.
Trunks : Gets abused, by his father.
with a bubble gun
@@MoldyBagel 😂😂😂😂
I love it when a content creator not only recognizes their mistakes but also goes back and fixes them all the while keeping it entertaining and interesting and you've done it here very well :)
thanks angelo
@@MoldyBagel no problem man :D
Me who doesn't even play DBFZ: mhm very true
you should play, it's fun
Same
You probably missed an amazing sale of it going for 10$ on literally every platform
@@chronosanaki5174 ye i bought the ultimate version of dbfz during that sale
and it's been super fun playin the game
warning,unless you are willing to dump 100's if not 1000's of hours into this game in training mod while not being able to properly put those hours to use online since it had a not so good netcode(online sucks ass),this game may not be for you unless you are into fighters.
Virginia has regained his spot at the top.
Ur are no real super sand
hahaha
Im gonna defet your andnbecome super saying wihte
But does he still hang out with little boys in spandex?
He really can't be doing that, I mean we love him but come on.
@@Shift_Salt Virginia hanging out with little boys in spandex I see
3:59
s c a l e
(hearing that made me feel untold amounts of bliss)
My man really just roasted his past self with facts and logic for 5 whole minutes
When Vegeta said “Scale” I felt that
*O N A S C A L E OF 1 T O 10*
I L L G I V E Y O U A 3
I'll GiVe u a Tree
it was when the guitar playing popped up that it really slayed me
SCALE
On a scale of 1 to 10, I’ll give this a 10.
Mhm
I’d still give him a 7
*S C A L E*
@@angelodavidmarabolivarela9505 **insert guitar noises here**
@@Rei-uk3qt What takes off 3 points?
“🔛🅰️⚖️📴1️⃣2️⃣1️⃣0️⃣👁L Give U🅰️3️⃣” - Vegeta while in Supa Sayajin God Supa Sayajin
i just realized the joke. this is a good one.
*Bejita. If you’re going to go weeb, go all the way.
I never even noticed the animation recycling during blue gokus level 3. You gotta admit tho that they do a pretty good job of hiding it
it is definitely a good use of asset flipping
to be fair it's not really that strange considering the move as a whole is Goku using his fighting Techniques just with more power. So he would still look the same fighting.
yeah, Vegeta's lv3 is still a worse asset flip imo since it only uses one animation, which is the same as the lv3 as ssj Vegeta, so Goku's is still a much better asset flip than vegeta's, also unlike Goku, he doesn't even change forms, which is fair since vegeta can't use kaioken, but the point still stands.
I think this makes Vegeta Blue's level 3 look worse because of how good they utilized reused assets for Goku Blue.
While Goku simply takes smaller animations to make something that's different (especially with the great camera work), Vegeta literally uses the exact same final flash animation and doesn't even hide it.
The Dragon Rush animation is kind of noticeable, but everything else is well-hidden.
Glad to have stuck with the prince from the beginning and now he’s a god
Now? Vegeta was always the God of all edgelords
@@RRRRRRRRR33 Ik but people didn’t notice his greatness until he got buffed
The last point about Vegeta's LVL 3 super still applies. Sure, Goku's super reuses 6 different animations, but at least they are put together to make something else. It's like the LVL 3 they gave to Ginyu in a sense.
Vegeta's is still just Final Flash.
Tbf, at the time the game released, the Final Flash was literally his strongest move. He didn't really have any attacks or techniques he likes to use exclusively with/in Blue, like how Goku stacks Kaioken with it, except maybe "Gamma Burst Flash" and even that's a stretch since it's literally just a Final Flash that doesn't need to be charged up. If anything his move set seems to be based almost entirely on when he fought Goku Black, kinda like how Goku's is based on when he fought Golden Frieza in RoF and Hit in the U6 Tournament. Guess that goes to show that Vegeta never really gets time to shine and show off new techniques outside of maybe the Manga. Even when he does he always ends up fumbling the bag somehow. It's been almost 3 decades, let my man get a W from a main villain.
@@thecollector4753 Gamma burst flash was first shown in the manga just weeks before the game even came out, so that's not really an option
"On a scale of one to ten, I give you a twelve."
- Blue Haired Vegetable
honestly i still think the final flash comparison is a fair point, because at least goku's reused animations are put together to look cooler in context
vegeta's is just final flash but again
Is the fact that he went back to correct the previous video's mistakes what makes this small arc all the more satisfying😇
Little did he know today. Vegeta Blue is now amazing with his Big Bang Attack
“You see players youre not dealing with an average saiyan anymore”
The video: *has Kirby's soundtrack*
Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well!
why does EVERY KIRBY GAME HAVE SUCH GOOD MUSIC BRO
@@MoldyBagel You are beginning to feel the pain of Antdude when he needs to talk about the soundtrack.
@@MoldyBagel same reason why every Sonic and Dragon Ball game has good music. Japan be out here poppin, those goddamn guitar wizards
@@Vegitodraws don't forget Smash Bros. OST, that shit slaps harder than my mom's chancla
FF14 bro, Soken for real made a band so that he could make rock covers of his own songs.
It takes a great man to admit when he makes a mistake.
And now he’s the best character in the game because of todays patch
Anyone coming back here when 1.32 dropped lol
me
These are probably the best type of videos you make.
thanks for commenting on like every video squidy i appreciate it
Anytime dude! Your content is so fun and just makes me appreciate the game a lot more
Beautiful
LMAO i laughed so hard at the blue goku animation part😂
i cried lol
I mean it reuses animations pretty seamlessly to me and if you don’t look for it you may not even notice.
I mean kaioken is just a strengthening technique so it makes sense that it’s just regular attacks but stronger
Its used but combine it into ultimate combo
(But make sense)
5:15 goku sounds like a siren xd
We need the trilogy. He's S tier now🗿
Wtf happened
@@CHADCONTEXT New patch
I would argue that remixing animations to string them into a super attack that no other Gokus use isn't quite as bad as recycling an existing super and just swapping the color palette.
No it is exactly the same
@@derpypotato677 no it really isn't most people don't even notice that they just reuse animations for goku but vegeta they literally just reused the ssj super no extra work whatsoever
Actually, I think I'd rather have 6 assets combined together for a LV3 than just one asset reused. It gives it more of a unique feeling.
Then I'm sure you also don't mind Ginyu's alternate lvl 3.
@@pootis_duck7916 i sure do actually
because it coulda been so much flashier
@@flaco3462 yeah but they all do the pose at the end of it so I'm satisfied
@@josukehigashikata4238 yeah that part does work
Damn, I was also thinking about the lvl 5. Bluekus lvl 5 is just his 2H with a blue explosion, right? Bluegetas lvl 5 feels unique, but that might just be the camera also. I enjoy Blueku more, but nothing he has is better than hearing "You worthless piece of junk!"
Vegeta really went through a lot to become a good character in the game.
But hey hard work pay (that rhymes)
It fits his character progression in the show :)
@@bigenson18 well that's a good thing
"With the right assists"
Bardock B: "I AM THE GOD OF DESTRUCTION!!!!!"
3:59
Vegeta shows his amazing guitar skills
Bass scales
And now all we need is "bardock b assist is no longer broken"
Roshi B: imma end this man's whole career.
@@demonlikemike5920 lmao this didnt age well
@@soapy.2057 😢
Actually
Bardock b assist is intended to be broken
I think it will be permanently broken
Now all we need is for them to make ssj goku a viable starter character and were all good
english when
@@phazedq he misspelled one word
Super goku? Like blue goku? He's a hella good character whatchu talkin bout? He's a character that's good as is, he doesn't need any changes.
Did you mean ssj goku?
Or does he mean UI Goku from
Dragon Ball Super?
The funny thing is? I actually really like Vegeta Blue's level 3 for a reason not many people give it credit for- how fast it is. Super Vegeta's Final Flash has a big, long windup of him charging the thing and looking really pissed off, incredibly fitting, given what scene it's taken from and all, but the fact that Vegeta Blue can use an equally powerful attack with basically no charge up whatsoever makes him look much more powerful in comparison, the same reason why I like the fact BBA is a regular fireball and not a super anymore- it makes the power gap between SSJ and Blue look big without sacrificing game balance. I wish they did that sort of thing for Goku Blue, like gave him a Super Kameha as a fireball- slower, like BBA, but bigger. I guess it wouldn't really work with his kit though.
just give him an Anti Air kamehameha and call it a day
3:59 I laughed WAY harder than I should have at this
Same
Yeah lol, do guitars actually scale as well as vegeta does? Asking for a friend lol.
Idk why but hearing Goku in slow motion just made me chuckle XD
*KaaaioookEEEEEEEEEEn*
I love when you make Videos, they're always so entertaining
Your analysis style videos are always so interesting and well explained. Hoping to see more like it. Hell, maybe even in other fight games.
“Subscribe so he gets buffed into being OP”
4:17 "one again"
but man you really know how to get people interested into your videos(like me)
That transistion was amazing
Wow
Just wow
Boy this guy has done something so mature and honest. Addressing as “wrong” his own video is something so good and inspiring to watch. Also, very entertaining as always!! Thank you for the content and have a nice weekend !
thanks giovanni
I love when you break down characters like this, it helps a lot when trying to main them, happy 2021 Moldy💖
happy 2021!
"Subscribe so he gets buffed into being OP."
Mission Accomplished.
6:11 - What an exciting love letter/outro for the character, tying the theme to a remix of the ToP opener! 😍
That Goku alarm scene at 4:49 was _hilarious!_
So When is the next video saying Vegeta Blue is overpowered.
ima see how it plays out before completing the trilogy hahaha
I love how these are super entertaining and extremely knowledgeable! We have commented this exact thing before on other videos but by God it’s great!
I've always been a fan of Vegeta Blue, even back when he was an underpowered mess. Maybe I just didn't feel too affected by his downsides because I wasn't playing at a high enough level back then to notice, but as for me personally I've always been able to at least have fun with the character, and I always thought his moves (especially his level 5 extension) just look and feel so good. I was very happy to see him getting a buff, because I felt like he was one of the characters who could definitely benefit from one, and the buffs they gave him were exactly the kinda things I wanted. He is now a part of my main roster, and I couldn't be happier about it. He is just so much fun to play
I absolutely LOVE the effort you put in your videos
I’ve been playing this game for 3 years and hadn’t noticed the reused animations for blue Goku. Something to note though is that even though it is reusing animations, it’s not only used in a different context but are also framed differently (ie different camera angle) and have the blue+kaioken shading. But both look great
"I need help! Cleaning all this blood off my gloves"
i dont even play fighting gaems but your editing, humor and use of music is what keeps me subbed and watching every video!!
thanks man!
Shoyoumomo: *Imma pretend like I didnt see that*
I NEED HELP
"Reused Animations:
- Standing Medium"
That's 5LL in SSJ Goku's case, not 5M. It is however 5M on Base Goku.
oh yeah yeah totally slipped my mind cause it's base's 5m
THIS is why I watch your videos. Always entertaining and informative! I don't even play FighterZ anymore but you make me enjoy it!
thanks bro
I've just been getting into DBFZ and your videos have been popping up in recommended. They're very informative and entertaining so thank you!
thanks bro!
Dunno if they debuted there, but your use of Kirby Air Ride themes in your video is absolutely rockin'.
AIR RIDES OST IS SOOO GOOOOOD AHHHH
@@MoldyBagel NOSTALGIAHHHHH! LET'S GOOOOO!
Would really love for you to tackle Cooler in a video.
Kind of point out why he isn’t slept on, since his flaws are pretty damn significant reason as to why he doesn’t get play.
You outdid yourself with this one! Looks amazing and fun!
The way you present a lot of this information is really useful. Idk what your plans are for future videos but I'd love to see more content like this that explains why certain characters are good in situations. Great vid, and keep it up :)
thanks
"Started from the bottom now we here."
- Vegeta Blue
That song, that song... That Song!
(Gasp) yeah nvm I forgot
I never noticed this before, but I have massive respect for your use of the Kirby air ride ost
Thanks bro
i appreciate ur videos. they're well made
Thanks for this update! I've always liked playing Vegeta Blue, but I've never been much of a fighting game expert so this info is helpful. I'll see if I can work this into some combos lol
It took him 8 months of charging that Final Flash to get out of the trash
The caption in the beginning was “why” and then “why not”
Nice video, love the editing as always!
I'm also happy you went back to correct some mistakes of your previous video, that's the growth I like to see!
Thank you ArcSys, the fight for Vegeta Blue is finally over...
thanks!
Love your content. This stuff is what got me to play the game.
im glad
that slowed down KAIIIIIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOKEEEEEEEEEEEEEN! tho
4:59
I love how this went from “OOOOOOOOOOOHH” to “OOOOOOOOOOOHH NO”.
Hey man, I really love your video editing coupled with your informative approach to dbfz that even I, a noob, can understand advanced nuance datapoint
Is, "this feels like the most aimlessly designed character." The fighting game version of, "I can't name a single character trait."?
Essentially? Absolutely
2:25 i love that cutaway
glad someone notices the subtle things
Trunks after getting beat up by his father in ssb: 👁️👄👁️
Hey man thanks for clearing things up in your last bluegeta video. Our boy didnt deserve THAT much hate
Love the last edit. Good job.
"Suscribe so he gets buffed into being OP", well well well, looks like it actaully worked!
a premonition
@@MoldyBagelu keep calling shit bro, bluegeta, beerus, etc
5:12 Voice crack
Craziest thing about this video is that you uploaded this today, and I had just seen your first video on the topic this morning. Talk about a coincidence.
This video is very nice, and in fact thanks to this video i learned a lot of things
Classic Vegeta, always a Space Day late and a Star Dollar short
Me: Trying to practice for my upcoming recital
My brain: 3:59
The editing is so freaking good
I have IMMENSE respect for people that go out of their way to take on more work to correct information that they previously put out, congrats man, this video is fucking great
I only got one thing from this vid
S C A L E
The only man who argued with himself
ya boy out here with the schizophrenic episode
I recognize Styzmask's remixes anywhere, always love the energy 👀
This is the new best video on the channel. Holy heck it was awesome to watch
glad you liked it paul
Nobody:
Me: 1:59 *Thinking about the seal meme*
Me too
The level 3 point is still valid though, Blueku stitched together many animations to make something unique while Bluegeta just reuses the same thing.
You're the only channel where I watch DBFZ content. I love your content!
thank you!
Been waiting for this!