Stories about angry men who learn to finally let go of their shit and relax always get to me. That would be a cool development, but I doubt it'll ever happen for Lucci.
You may think it's sweet but I think it's terrifying being it's really out of his character, he only smiles (evilly) where there's something or someone to kill. 🥶
Lucci technically has a tragic backstory (he's an orphan after all, we just don't know the details... yet...), all we need is a dream, and we've got our new Strawhat!
@@Arkalidor it's why I stick to the theory that both him and Akainu were victims of someone like Mother Carmela from Big Mom's flashback, because remember what Mother Carmela said to the cp0 agents at the time? She said that Linlin could be turned into a diaper pull agent or Admiral, it was like Oda was insinuating that's why Lucci and Akainu were the way they are, hence Akainu's view on family that we saw during the War at Marineford.
Brook is absolutely powerful . Don’t forget he survived a run in with big mom. Compared to the monster quartet ofc he isn’t a heavy hitter but he is powerful in his own right
Yes exactly. Brook’s sword skills are about finesse and precision, which is why he wins the battles he does. True, Brook is not a powerful as Zoro but he is definitely not helpless.
I love how extremely different the individual bits of this chapter can be. "Look, Nami and Brook! Pretty gems!" "Look, Robin and Chopper! Organs." "Look, Sanji and Jinbe! Aloha!"
When seeing how York was easily defeated by S-Snake, I now wonder whether Usopp, Franky, and Lilith will handle her with or without Luffy, who is one of the only known characters immune to the Love Love Fruit's power, whether original or a replica.
S-Snake clearly uses her Cuteness as the catalyst for the Petrification Power so Franky should be ok as he is too cool to think something is cute :P And Usopp only feels fear, terror and depression so hes immune as well
It's very much a real thing. Gastrointestinal and lung organoids can even be considered as an established model for research imo. There are also more advanced, fancy models like brain or eye organoids.
"you got Sanji, Jinbe and Stussy together, nobody is messing with this group" I feel like there's a dude who's on his way to Egghead who could do that, a very fast shining bright dude
sanjis best stat is seemingly speed, i doubt he fully outspeeds kizaru, but if any group had a chance of fending his attacks off itd be one with sanji or luffy.
The theory that the five elders are satalite of umi makes more sense with this chapter since the cover page did not show their face wich they can replace using "old" technology that vegapunk only now had discoverd
I thought there was a chance lucci could join Luffy when CP0 first arrived to Egghead. The way Lucci was talking gave a very slight hint he isn’t 100% happy with the world government decision to kill Vegapunk but he’s still going to follow orders. Main thing is that as Mihawk stated in the war, Luffy’s greatest power is to attract allies to him. He has done this repeatedly through the series. I also think there is a possibility that he will team up with Moria in the future as they do share a sense of compassion when it comes to their crew mates. Moria was distraught when Kaido killed his men and endeavored to have an army of zombies that would be harder to kill and he wouldn’t be emotionally attached to. Then Moria stormed Fullalead to rescue Absalom. With these similarities and their mutual enemy in Blackbeard, it makes sense they could team up.
Not sure about the futur team up with Moria but the fact that he was shown still alive after Marineford made me think that he will have a big role in the futur. Like, i don't see Oda showing us that then never using Moria again, that wouldn't make sense imo
Well, just to a certain extent I don't see moria being of any actual use in such a battle so even if there are similarities it wouldn't make too much sense But let's see
I feel no tension at all with Nami and Brook's group. Both of them still have power tricks we don't know about and are confident that if even the traitor or whoever shows up, they will either be able to handle it or escape from it. They both survived horrific direct encounters with Big Mom so I'm cool with them. What I'm very worried about is Robin. Regardless of her ability, she is still being targeted by the government and wanted by the higher-ups. I really think that Saturn Gorosei will get his hands on her at some point. That is soooo scary for me.
I don't know exactly what Lucci & Kaku are planning, but I hope that Luffy & Zoro are not stupid enough to accept their offer without precaution! Unless Shaka can try & show them the benefits of this truce.
Judging by that disgusted face, I can see that both of them will reject the alliance with "Nah. We'll handle it by our self" lol. Unless something crazier happen like those seraphims are actually at Yonko level or Kizaru and Mr. Garcia suddenly appear.
I personally think that the shadow is everyone’s hated snot guy, Trebol. It is the right face shape and If vegapunk was using senor pinks df then it might make sense that some of Doffys crew would be on egghead
They aren’t planning anything. They just realized them and the straw hats are set up for death. So they kind of have no chance it’s kind of hey we’re enemies but why don’t we just team up.
I'm now thinking that Stella is the traitor. He somehow disappears when the labophase is keeping everyone trapped. Everyone left there is presumed expendable, including CP0, which is especially weird given that they were sent to assassinate the Vegapunks. But with prior knowledge, he would be able to escape before this (we've seen him teleport). Seeing that cover page of Stella in the presence of the Gorosei is what first gave me that impression. It's also interesting to me that it was actually Shaka who informed Dragon of his impending murder, and not Stella. Lastly, the Satellites wouldn't be able to overrule the orders Stella provides to the Seraphim.
But all the Vegapunks are on the same level when it comes to hierarchy on Seraphim command order. So you're trying to say that Stella secretly has more power over all the other satellites, and also has slightly higher command order over them, despite any Vegapumk able to issue a command and the Seraphim listen to it without question?
I'd say the smartest man in the world would be weary of his satellites and keep an advantage over them in case they turn against him. He's probably also smart enough to keep himself safe without the help of unforeseen events like the strawhats showing up at his doorstep out of nowhere.
@@vgmaster02 But that's how the command hierarchy explicitly works. Someone on the same level can't countermand a previous order from another person on the same level. So if all the Vegapunks are on the same level, if Stella (or another Vegapunk) gave the order to attack, none of the other Vegapunks could make the Serpahim stop.
@@arbsb6952 Yes they fucking can. Because clearly their command to STOP ATTACKING THEM was overwritten to ATTACK THEM. So clearly your logic is faulty!
That moment when luffy and zoro literally in Sync on the expression is my favorite part, oda has been doing that quite a bit recently, remember the spilling soup in wano ? when he make both of them usually have the same brain wave, they know each other to the core, I love that interaction.
I don't think Lucci would ever join the crew tho. He's like the kind of a guy who enjoys his job. But it IS possible considering what happened after Enies Lobby, and him actually seeing the Government's discrepancies on his way to Egghead Island
I think Lucci is going to have the Garp treatment. Garp couldn't be an Admiral let alone head of the navy due to him working with Gol D. Roger to defeat the Rocks Pirates on God Island. I feel like Lucci will be in the same boat as Garp now.
@@romkin1197 Garp couldve been an admiral easily, he purposefully rejected it everytime he was offered because admirals are under the direct command of the celestial dragons
Big mom couldve absolutely obliterated his skeleton body in 1 hit if she wanted so. She held back a lot and let him show his fighting skills bc she wanted to add him in her collection
I find it somewhat perplexing that barely anyone ever brings up the point that all the satellites and the stella body synchronize their memories at the end of the day, meaning that if a vegapunk is the traitor, they'd have to have turned traitor only just today, or either all or none of the vegapunks are traitors. Nothing else really makes sense really.
@@nickyminaj709the synchronization would have had it found. Today in the story is the day comms went down and it makes no sense for one to have just decided to turn traitor. We also know Saint Jay Garcia Saturn is on Egghead. There is 0% that silhouette is anyone else
The cover page had me weeping. Oda recreated the girl on the couch meme with Vegapunk and the Elders xD If you asked me I'd say VP is setting up a Trap for the strawheads. To me the fact that Saturn is on the move towards Egghead kinda confirms to me that he wants Luffy and VP is the one handing Luffy to Saturn on a silver platter.
Zoro and Luffy's expression almost put me in to tears when Lucci asked them to work together , I was laughing so hard 😭 😭 One Piece is getting so bizarre on Egghead and I'm here for all of it
Maybe the reason vegapunk didn’t want Bonnie to see kumas memories is because it showed vegapunk as a bad guy or willingly doing something bad for his own personal gain.
With the chapter, I'd say we can now fairly accurately deduce the identity of the traitor. Pythagoras and York were both attacked and nearly killed by the seraphim, Shaka and Lilith were unable to countermand their current orders, and Atlas was damaged and out of commission when the traitor first lowered the lab's shields. Therefore, by process of elimination, Edison is almost certainly the traitor. The only other strong possibility is that it's the Stella employing some sort of galaxy brain plan to eliminate everyone on the island, friend and foe alike, and disappear without a trace to save his own skin, but he hasn't seemed like the type to do something like that before now.
I’ve been suspicious of Edison for a while now. Though there’s the possibility of a failed unknown satellite doing this or maybe punk records itself. Also the possibility of Catarina copying a satellite to do this. Could be Saturn using some power to communicate across a great distance to the Seraphims (less likely as they attacked CP0 too.) Or the Seraphims have gone rogue. We do know S- bear was considered a problem child.
It could be york actually issuing the command and intentionally letting herself get stoned so theres no way to turn back the command if they somehow found her to be the traitor
@@edwardhillson6670 Not in the flesh, the dome should keep him out. Besides that’s the most boring option. As I said though, he might be projecting himself there somehow to communicate with the seraphims.
I honestly do feel that could be the case That and i feel Lilith would be too obvious She is marked as the "Evil" one, but she just seems more immoral/amoral compared to the others when it comes to getting funding Honestly though, part of me wants to say it's York, because it'd be both funny and would make some sense After all, it's not like York doesn't lack other emotions, sure we see her being fairly ok with being the lazy one, but it could be that she hides the fact she hates not being able to do anything but spend time doing the stuff the other Vegapunks don't want to do
There is no traitor. Here me out, I don't think Oda would dip into this well so soon after the whole Kanjuro thing. But here is what we know so far. Someone higher than the Satellite Punks have ordered them to kill people in the dome. The Stellar is missing. Someone is taking out cameras and seems to have not been spotted at all. The attack on Law and his crew did not showcase Devon or Shiryu. It's a long shot, but suppose that Blackbeard is in fact a clone of Xebec, so he would most likely know where Egghead Island is. Someone is giving orders as Vegapunk, and that someone is Catarina as the Stellar giving orders as Shiryu disables the security. Why? Blackbeard will go war over weaponry (as seen in him attacking Baltigo), Blackbeard wants the Poneglyph rubbings (which he knows the 3 Billion Berry captains have), and we have been introduced to the concept of clones of the Rocks pirates, so why not use this chance to give some background about BB being one of Xebec?
Please. Oh my actual fuckin god-PLEASE, stop talking about clones. BB isn’t a clone of anybody. Let’s not have everybody be a clone of a more interesting character when we could just have an actual original character that is interesting on their own. This clone goofiness is now the number one most annoying thing fans are talking about. Is this what you actually *WANT* to see? You. Are. Watching. Three Piece 🤦♂️
The idea I've mainly seen floating around is that the Vegapunk in charge of the Seraphim is actually the prime brain itself, the whole central network thing that connects to each of the satellites. And I mean, if it has to be a Vegapunk, I like that idea, it subverts expectations.
This is literally the moment of punk hazard when law and Luffy team up except flipped on its head Now Luffy is wearing the proverbial chopper on his head
Tbf it wasn't too unpredictable that lucci and luffy would ally. Given that lucci managed to piss of the wg and marines by not listening to their orders
This chapter confirms that you don’t have to be sexually attracted to the user of the melo melo no mi to be affected by the power, you can think they’re cute, like how a child can be cute. Is it just these emotions or does it work with others, too?
Zoro in Enies Lobby wanted Kaku to quit the Marines and World Government for good, so even if Kaku or Lucci joins the Strawhat Pirates then they’d need to stop working for the Marines and the World Government itself.
>Gorosei staying the same in the cover page story >organoids >order from the same authority level cannot override the already given order (which stussy also mentioned she can't override lucci order on the seraphim) my theory is Ever since Vegapunk met Gorosei, he's been making artificial organs for them so they stayed the same. one day Vegapunk made a clone of Saturn and now he's the cause of this mess
Remember at the start of the arc where the strawhats were engaging with lilith, and shaka was like its a good time to gather fight data, stella vegapunk might indeed be pulling strings here to gather more of that info
i think doffy said it best , who will betray who , who will side with who . there is one only one empty seat . i dont remember it word by word but seemed like alot of foreshadowing
I have the feeling the Doflamingo Seraphin is the one behind everything. He is the only one we haven't yet seen and would be cool if by any chance he developed a personality that could overwrite the vegapunks commands
Just my theory but I think it happened like this - Caribou had sneaked in the building after Zorro left him and somehow came to know about vegapunk & the seraphim's command hierarchy.After the incident with bonnie he kidnappes stella and threatens him to command the seraphims to eleminate every thrate in the building for him and it's the whole mistrey.Caribou is the only one who can easily undo the barrier without anyone noticing in the other chapter with his powers.
Can seraphs use haki? It's an expression of willpower and they're completely subservient to others. I can't remember seeing them use it at all but I also don't pay a lot of attention sometimes.
I believe that the shadow is our most hated snot guy, Trebol. The silhouette has the same face shape as him and I think it might make sense that more of Doffys crew might be there seeing as Vegapunk was experimenting with senor pinks df
i have serious doubts that there is a traitor among the vegapunks. i think the 5 elders placed a command into s-bear, s-bear then passed that order to the others.
I'm thinking the egghead arc is now like a mystery genre with sci fi and horror. Similar to the video game Among us. Oda is just a genius Lucci joining straw hat seems a stretch because what can he offer the straw hats. Each member have a role, what's is Lucci? Does he have good eye sight, maybe he can be look out? But the chance's are very slim. Oda is giving every reader's suspense about the final straw hats. The final straw hats is someone with a color white. Each character has their own color. Just a thought, I can be wrong.
I think the miscalculation that the vegapunks made is that they actually have any control over the Seraphim. It's highly likely that they are doing this of their own free will.
Luffy has always pulled people to him with his will but now that he’s awakened maybe it’s to strange for anyone to resist which is why everyone wants to be friends with the straw hats that get close to them.
A lot of people are confused by Nami leaving the diamonds but once Edison mentioned they’re man made… Nami saw it as a business venture and since the punks are hopefully gonna tag along with them she could have a endless supply of diamonds and sell them for berries hence the reason she left the bag for the eventually hope of having an untapped amount.
If faking your own hit is something Vegapunk would do, and I agree it's what I would do, the question of allegiance remains - who is the one being fooled? Pythagoras got attacked and York got petrified but I am suspicious that it's maybe the classic "extract yourself to avoid suspicion." Anyone of them is capable of faking surprise.
Not to forget all the oldschool hightech stuff for Franky :D I think he is going to integrate the bubblegun into his standard equipment :D A non leathal highly effective gun sounds like a nice upgrade for the lionboat.
I wonder if perhaps the traitor is a clone of Stella himself. Maybe he was a failed experiment and was locked away until the attack by cp0 busted his jail and now wants revenge. But if the traitor is actually Saturn himself then it would explain how he overrides the seraphim and why they’re killing both the vegapunks and cp0 (perhaps to tie up loose ends incase they know too much)
I wonder if the shadow that destroyed the camera may potentially be from an S-Gecko Seraphim that we haven't seen yet that is using its replicated Kage Kage no Mi Devil Fruit ability from Moria.
This chapter is filled with so many details that a lot of people missed or ignored. Oda did a good job of narrowing down who the traitor is without directly saying who it is.
I like the idea that Stella is a clone. The real vegapunk made an actual clone that looks just like he does just in case he gets assassinated. And possibly Shaka is the actual Stella body
Vegapunk is probably chill now since he did the whole Father/Pain thing and got rid of the worst aspects of his personality, but back in the day he was probably full time beast mode savage
I feel like people are really overlooking the shadow figure. It honestly just looks like a pacifista or S-Bear raising it’s hand to beam the den den mushi. Take into account that S-Snake was the infiltrator elsewhere, and that S-Hawk and S-Bear infiltrated the control center from the very location the shadow figure came from, it seems like this should be a simple explanation. However, we never fucking know with Oda
I Was thinking that the current events was because DR. Vegapunk (the old guy with the apple antenna head) had decided to test the Straw Hats' fighting abilities... he probably was using them as an example in the worst case scenario that the seraphim are flawed, so he has to test them against the Yonko Luffy and his pirate crew... OR, he is just testing out the straw hats to see if he is in safe hands while on the trip with them on the thousand Sunny...
I think its obvious that the siloutte is saturn, it looks so much like him and the gorosei are the only ones who have authority over vegapunk to control the seraphim, thats why this is the first time we have seen one outside of their room, he was needed to take control of the seraphim
There are people that literally earn their livelihood by analyzing and discussing the most subtle and minute details of every one piece panel … There’s not a single person seeing Saturn in that panel-and you’re not the first one to be noticing something. No, you can’t tell it’s Saturn-hence the entire purpose of the silhouette, you absolute dumbass. I hope it actually is Saturn using a new ability we haven’t seen-but there’s not visible attributes resembling Saturn. Stop.
@@GourSmith what are you even talking about, i just said my theory which makes a lot of sense ofc no one knows who exactly is, thats why we are discussing it
@@weepashbp2270 Your theory is goofy and fruity. Oda isn’t stupid. He’s not making BB a disappointing clone of Xebec. We already know Vegapunk’s first clone is Stussy. Then the seraphim. Since this is “just your theory” … Who do you theorize it was that cloned Xebec? It’s possible he’s the son of Xebec-definitely not a clone. Keep the nonsense to yourself.
@@weepashbp2270 And what things are you talking about? Why act dumb questions in addition to retarded theories? If you mean the quote, I’m literally just taking your words. You quite literally said “I just said my theory”. Why the dumb questions?
I’ve had a problem with vegapunks connection to mads for a long time actually. So you are a part of an organization that turns out be 100% evil with the exception of you? Riiiiiggggghhhhtttt!
The thumbnail reminds me of when I used to think Kaku would join the crew after Wano. Given the Three Seas Theory and how he shared some traits with Usopp and Franky, I my thought was valid. That said, I have abandoned it now.
The Vegapunks pulled the seraphim out of combat the second they realized that Franky had a laser. Stop overlookin this man, especially when he's in scrap a mechanic's heaven.
Why haven’t anyone considered holographic tech as a possibility for hiding in plain sight… I suppose Edison/pythagors who suggested battle training have leaned into it for masking it possible
York going there to S-Snake all of a sudden and getting stoned like that is shady to me. We also know very less about her and this could be a good way to make it look like she a victim
The one thing that still ways heavy on my mind is Kizaru ways already on the way to egghead on orders from Akainu or someone else I’m not sure that is clear. So the chance that he was already on the way with Garcia is a slim chance and since he learned luffy was there he ordered more battleships. It’s not impossible to think that Kizaru and Garcia just arrived as the battle was going on and they could’ve been the cause of the doom going down for a few seconds but more than one person causing havoc right now is seeming a lot more likely.
Note, the CP9 already went rogue for a while. They had that cover story where they ran off to patch up Lucci after the whole Enies Lobby saga. They did come back to WG side and get promotions to CP0, but we have precedent for them running off from the government. And precedent for the World Government to hunt them down as a punishment for failure as well now that I think about it.
The freaking Manga and anime are taking too much time to move along the pace it's like someone getting up from bed to open the door but instead of doing it at normal time speed which is roughly 30 seconds it takes them 5 fucking days. Shit is ridiculous.
is imu a traitor satellite from the void century? Vega punk is trying to recreate the tech of the ancient kingdom. it would be fitting the vega punk runs into the safe problems they did.
The laugh I let out when I saw Luffy and Zoros disgust at Lucci and Kaku asking for them to work together was the highlight off this chapter for me.
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If the join the crew bro that’s cheating even though luffy and zero clap them every time. But damn shit would be cray cray
Dude same i had a good five minutes of laughter just from that panel
It was a pretty meh chapter overall
This is so out of character, but seeing Lucci in the thumbnail smile like this is so sweet. I kinda want it to be canon now.
i thought that was ace in the thumb nail. i thought Liam was gonna say, they cloned him, with devil fruit powers intact
Stories about angry men who learn to finally let go of their shit and relax always get to me. That would be a cool development, but I doubt it'll ever happen for Lucci.
You may think it's sweet but I think it's terrifying being it's really out of his character, he only smiles (evilly) where there's something or someone to kill. 🥶
Lucci technically has a tragic backstory (he's an orphan after all, we just don't know the details... yet...), all we need is a dream, and we've got our new Strawhat!
@@Arkalidor it's why I stick to the theory that both him and Akainu were victims of someone like Mother Carmela from Big Mom's flashback, because remember what Mother Carmela said to the cp0 agents at the time? She said that Linlin could be turned into a diaper pull agent or Admiral, it was like Oda was insinuating that's why Lucci and Akainu were the way they are, hence Akainu's view on family that we saw during the War at Marineford.
Im sure letting them out couldn’t possibly backfire, they seem like trustworthy people who wouldn’t backstab anyone to achieve their goal :)
Yeah, they clearly never betrayed anyone before 🤡
@@manhkhahoang6268 woooosh
They do anything to achieve their goal . So it's obvious that they team up with strawhat to get rid of seraphim then turn up against them.
@@levistaeirssr2684 Bro you just woooshed yourself
i am confused with the woosh here
Brook is absolutely powerful . Don’t forget he survived a run in with big mom. Compared to the monster quartet ofc he isn’t a heavy hitter but he is powerful in his own right
Yes exactly. Brook’s sword skills are about finesse and precision, which is why he wins the battles he does. True, Brook is not a powerful as Zoro but he is definitely not helpless.
💯makes me happy to c him getting his well deserved credit
This aged poorly
@@5stargrim my comment still stands
The fact that Lucci and Kaku are turning into a smoker is really funny and creative tbh 😂
Haha bruh dat is a good point 🤣
Lucci would be a nice upgrade from L machine Smoker 😂
Square nose ussop about to team with round nose usspp
@@patricknez7258 lol in Smoker's defense, Lucci has also been taking nothing but Ls ever since he stepped on the island 😂
@@Killacj93 Very fair point 😅
I love how extremely different the individual bits of this chapter can be.
"Look, Nami and Brook! Pretty gems!"
"Look, Robin and Chopper! Organs."
"Look, Sanji and Jinbe! Aloha!"
What if those gems WERE organs of Vegapunk after Bonney knocked them out of him?
Lol spot on
@@AggieCEO you are onto so mething buddy
@@vegitasama7633 mething
When seeing how York was easily defeated by S-Snake, I now wonder whether Usopp, Franky, and Lilith will handle her with or without Luffy, who is one of the only known characters immune to the Love Love Fruit's power, whether original or a replica.
Usopp would probably be immune to S-Snake because he's gonna be too terrified
@@eliaspanayi3465 too negative to simp for anyone but kaya
S-Snake clearly uses her Cuteness as the catalyst for the Petrification Power so Franky should be ok as he is too cool to think something is cute :P And Usopp only feels fear, terror and depression so hes immune as well
@@Y0G0FU I think Zoro would be immune too
and also Lilith, too, is very likely to be immune, since she is "evil" and also knows very too well how the enemy's power works
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The return of the "you look disgusted" joke is the greatest thing ever!
First they replicated Roger and WB's clash, and now Oden/WB's disgusted face kek
As someone who works with organoids i was so excited to seeing them in one piece. Even the organoid in the tank looks similar to early models.
Is that a Zoids reference?
Lol u future man
Thought organoids was a made up word ngl
It's very much a real thing. Gastrointestinal and lung organoids can even be considered as an established model for research imo. There are also more advanced, fancy models like brain or eye organoids.
"you got Sanji, Jinbe and Stussy together, nobody is messing with this group"
I feel like there's a dude who's on his way to Egghead who could do that, a very fast shining bright dude
sanjis best stat is seemingly speed, i doubt he fully outspeeds kizaru, but if any group had a chance of fending his attacks off itd be one with sanji or luffy.
The theory that the five elders are satalite of umi makes more sense with this chapter since the cover page did not show their face wich they can replace using "old" technology that vegapunk only now had discoverd
I thought there was a chance lucci could join Luffy when CP0 first arrived to Egghead. The way Lucci was talking gave a very slight hint he isn’t 100% happy with the world government decision to kill Vegapunk but he’s still going to follow orders. Main thing is that as Mihawk stated in the war, Luffy’s greatest power is to attract allies to him. He has done this repeatedly through the series. I also think there is a possibility that he will team up with Moria in the future as they do share a sense of compassion when it comes to their crew mates. Moria was distraught when Kaido killed his men and endeavored to have an army of zombies that would be harder to kill and he wouldn’t be emotionally attached to. Then Moria stormed Fullalead to rescue Absalom. With these similarities and their mutual enemy in Blackbeard, it makes sense they could team up.
Not sure about the futur team up with Moria but the fact that he was shown still alive after Marineford made me think that he will have a big role in the futur. Like, i don't see Oda showing us that then never using Moria again, that wouldn't make sense imo
I hope Moria is dead
Only reason moria is relevant is because of his race and the shadow fruit
Well, just to a certain extent
I don't see moria being of any actual use in such a battle so even if there are similarities it wouldn't make too much sense
But let's see
@@t4ndoris403 lol 🧑🦯oda simply give his df to one of bb's crew member🫠
I feel no tension at all with Nami and Brook's group. Both of them still have power tricks we don't know about and are confident that if even the traitor or whoever shows up, they will either be able to handle it or escape from it. They both survived horrific direct encounters with Big Mom so I'm cool with them. What I'm very worried about is Robin. Regardless of her ability, she is still being targeted by the government and wanted by the higher-ups. I really think that Saturn Gorosei will get his hands on her at some point. That is soooo scary for me.
nami scored one of the biggest hits on big mom in whole cake.
she may be as durable as cardboard, but she can deal near yonko level damage
I don't know exactly what Lucci & Kaku are planning, but I hope that Luffy & Zoro are not stupid enough to accept their offer without precaution! Unless Shaka can try & show them the benefits of this truce.
Judging by that disgusted face, I can see that both of them will reject the alliance with "Nah. We'll handle it by our self" lol. Unless something crazier happen like those seraphims are actually at Yonko level or Kizaru and Mr. Garcia suddenly appear.
I personally think that the shadow is everyone’s hated snot guy, Trebol. It is the right face shape and If vegapunk was using senor pinks df then it might make sense that some of Doffys crew would be on egghead
They aren’t planning anything. They just realized them and the straw hats are set up for death. So they kind of have no chance it’s kind of hey we’re enemies but why don’t we just team up.
if you don't KNOW Luffy and Zoro are stupid enough to do it, you haven't paid attention so far mate
Dude Luffy and Zoro won’t care and think they can handle what ever they throw at them.
I hope everyone reading this has a nice day! 😊😊
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I can foresee the sheer amount of reaction shots in this Arc for the Anime
Dear god no Wano is already hell
I'm now thinking that Stella is the traitor. He somehow disappears when the labophase is keeping everyone trapped. Everyone left there is presumed expendable, including CP0, which is especially weird given that they were sent to assassinate the Vegapunks. But with prior knowledge, he would be able to escape before this (we've seen him teleport). Seeing that cover page of Stella in the presence of the Gorosei is what first gave me that impression. It's also interesting to me that it was actually Shaka who informed Dragon of his impending murder, and not Stella. Lastly, the Satellites wouldn't be able to overrule the orders Stella provides to the Seraphim.
But all the Vegapunks are on the same level when it comes to hierarchy on Seraphim command order. So you're trying to say that Stella secretly has more power over all the other satellites, and also has slightly higher command order over them, despite any Vegapumk able to issue a command and the Seraphim listen to it without question?
I'd say the smartest man in the world would be weary of his satellites and keep an advantage over them in case they turn against him. He's probably also smart enough to keep himself safe without the help of unforeseen events like the strawhats showing up at his doorstep out of nowhere.
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@@vgmaster02 But that's how the command hierarchy explicitly works. Someone on the same level can't countermand a previous order from another person on the same level. So if all the Vegapunks are on the same level, if Stella (or another Vegapunk) gave the order to attack, none of the other Vegapunks could make the Serpahim stop.
@@arbsb6952 Yes they fucking can. Because clearly their command to STOP ATTACKING THEM was overwritten to ATTACK THEM. So clearly your logic is faulty!
That moment when luffy and zoro literally in Sync on the expression is my favorite part, oda has been doing that quite a bit recently, remember the spilling soup in wano ? when he make both of them usually have the same brain wave, they know each other to the core, I love that interaction.
I don't think Lucci would ever join the crew tho. He's like the kind of a guy who enjoys his job. But it IS possible considering what happened after Enies Lobby, and him actually seeing the Government's discrepancies on his way to Egghead Island
I think Lucci is going to have the Garp treatment.
Garp couldn't be an Admiral let alone head of the navy due to him working with Gol D. Roger to defeat the Rocks Pirates on God Island.
I feel like Lucci will be in the same boat as Garp now.
@@romkin1197 Garp couldve been an admiral easily, he purposefully rejected it everytime he was offered because admirals are under the direct command of the celestial dragons
@@fukpantsgiggledick7084 Which is another reason.
Well it's only temporary to survive this ordeal, after he got clapped (G5 Luffy) he definitely was humbled.
@@romkin1197wtf are you talking about? Garp rejected the promotion to admiral, it’s not that he couldn’t have it.
2:12 What?! Brook literally fought 1v1 with a yonko!
Big mom couldve absolutely obliterated his skeleton body in 1 hit if she wanted so. She held back a lot and let him show his fighting skills bc she wanted to add him in her collection
I wouldn't really consider Brook weak. It'd be awesome to see oda subvert people's expectations and have brook take down one of the seraphim
If brook can take one out then they are nowhere near as strong as Oda has portrayed.
@@nhp5067 or brook is wildly more powerful than people thought
Bro Brooke stood his own against Big Mom
@@drsex5483 he’s not tho
He barely held her off only because his df is a hard counter
I find it somewhat perplexing that barely anyone ever brings up the point that all the satellites and the stella body synchronize their memories at the end of the day, meaning that if a vegapunk is the traitor, they'd have to have turned traitor only just today, or either all or none of the vegapunks are traitors. Nothing else really makes sense really.
To be fair, the lab is almost destroyed, communications were cut, so I don't think they will synchronize.
@@edercastro7625 yeah but they would have done so yesterday, so some sort of planned betrayal is almost out of the question
@@edercastro7625 so one of them decide ONLY for today to be traitor?? Not yesterday? Not since they are made?
@@nickyminaj709the synchronization would have had it found. Today in the story is the day comms went down and it makes no sense for one to have just decided to turn traitor. We also know Saint Jay Garcia Saturn is on Egghead. There is 0% that silhouette is anyone else
That's a great point
The cover page had me weeping. Oda recreated the girl on the couch meme with Vegapunk and the Elders xD
If you asked me I'd say VP is setting up a Trap for the strawheads. To me the fact that Saturn is on the move towards Egghead kinda confirms to me that he wants Luffy and VP is the one handing Luffy to Saturn on a silver platter.
That's a really cool theory
Zoro and Luffy's expression almost put me in to tears when Lucci asked them to work together , I was laughing so hard 😭 😭 One Piece is getting so bizarre on Egghead and I'm here for all of it
Maybe the reason vegapunk didn’t want Bonnie to see kumas memories is because it showed vegapunk as a bad guy or willingly doing something bad for his own personal gain.
With the chapter, I'd say we can now fairly accurately deduce the identity of the traitor. Pythagoras and York were both attacked and nearly killed by the seraphim, Shaka and Lilith were unable to countermand their current orders, and Atlas was damaged and out of commission when the traitor first lowered the lab's shields. Therefore, by process of elimination, Edison is almost certainly the traitor.
The only other strong possibility is that it's the Stella employing some sort of galaxy brain plan to eliminate everyone on the island, friend and foe alike, and disappear without a trace to save his own skin, but he hasn't seemed like the type to do something like that before now.
I’ve been suspicious of Edison for a while now.
Though there’s the possibility of a failed unknown satellite doing this or maybe punk records itself.
Also the possibility of Catarina copying a satellite to do this.
Could be Saturn using some power to communicate across a great distance to the Seraphims (less likely as they attacked CP0 too.)
Or the Seraphims have gone rogue. We do know S- bear was considered a problem child.
It could be york actually issuing the command and intentionally letting herself get stoned so theres no way to turn back the command if they somehow found her to be the traitor
Or its the 5 elder star already on egghead
@@edwardhillson6670 Not in the flesh, the dome should keep him out. Besides that’s the most boring option.
As I said though, he might be projecting himself there somehow to communicate with the seraphims.
I honestly do feel that could be the case
That and i feel Lilith would be too obvious
She is marked as the "Evil" one, but she just seems more immoral/amoral compared to the others when it comes to getting funding
Honestly though, part of me wants to say it's York, because it'd be both funny and would make some sense
After all, it's not like York doesn't lack other emotions, sure we see her being fairly ok with being the lazy one, but it could be that she hides the fact she hates not being able to do anything but spend time doing the stuff the other Vegapunks don't want to do
There is no traitor.
Here me out, I don't think Oda would dip into this well so soon after the whole Kanjuro thing. But here is what we know so far.
Someone higher than the Satellite Punks have ordered them to kill people in the dome. The Stellar is missing. Someone is taking out cameras and seems to have not been spotted at all. The attack on Law and his crew did not showcase Devon or Shiryu.
It's a long shot, but suppose that Blackbeard is in fact a clone of Xebec, so he would most likely know where Egghead Island is. Someone is giving orders as Vegapunk, and that someone is Catarina as the Stellar giving orders as Shiryu disables the security.
Why?
Blackbeard will go war over weaponry (as seen in him attacking Baltigo), Blackbeard wants the Poneglyph rubbings (which he knows the 3 Billion Berry captains have), and we have been introduced to the concept of clones of the Rocks pirates, so why not use this chance to give some background about BB being one of Xebec?
Please. Oh my actual fuckin god-PLEASE, stop talking about clones. BB isn’t a clone of anybody. Let’s not have everybody be a clone of a more interesting character when we could just have an actual original character that is interesting on their own. This clone goofiness is now the number one most annoying thing fans are talking about. Is this what you actually *WANT* to see? You. Are. Watching. Three Piece 🤦♂️
The idea I've mainly seen floating around is that the Vegapunk in charge of the Seraphim is actually the prime brain itself, the whole central network thing that connects to each of the satellites. And I mean, if it has to be a Vegapunk, I like that idea, it subverts expectations.
This is literally the moment of punk hazard when law and Luffy team up except flipped on its head
Now Luffy is wearing the proverbial chopper on his head
Tbf it wasn't too unpredictable that lucci and luffy would ally. Given that lucci managed to piss of the wg and marines by not listening to their orders
This chapter confirms that you don’t have to be sexually attracted to the user of the melo melo no mi to be affected by the power, you can think they’re cute, like how a child can be cute. Is it just these emotions or does it work with others, too?
Zoro and Kaku did share a moment on Enies Lobby as in some form they understand and respect one another. There is some honor between the 2.
Zoro in Enies Lobby wanted Kaku to quit the Marines and World Government for good, so even if Kaku or Lucci joins the Strawhat Pirates then they’d need to stop working for the Marines and the World Government itself.
Jinbe with a Hawaiian shirt is pure style, you can't beat that drip.
>Gorosei staying the same in the cover page story
>organoids
>order from the same authority level cannot override the already given order
(which stussy also mentioned she can't override lucci order on the seraphim)
my theory is
Ever since Vegapunk met Gorosei, he's been making artificial organs for them so they stayed the same.
one day Vegapunk made a clone of Saturn and now he's the cause of this mess
Lucci and KaKu is just belittling Luffy and Zorro I'm sure Luffy and Zorro will show them how will they defeat a Seraphim
Remember at the start of the arc where the strawhats were engaging with lilith, and shaka was like its a good time to gather fight data, stella vegapunk might indeed be pulling strings here to gather more of that info
At least Luffy didn't give a quick yes like he did with X Drake and Law. The look was priceless.
He did in 1076
Zoro shouted at him
But he told lucci he has to beat him first before he touches the crew and he cant beat him
i think doffy said it best , who will betray who , who will side with who . there is one only one empty seat . i dont remember it word by word but seemed like alot of foreshadowing
I feel the opposite. I’m never worried about Nami, Usopp and chopper.
If Brook took on Big Mom, he won’t run away from any challenge in front of him
Really looking forward to a joke where Brook goes full Soul King and scares the "monster" that is hunting them
I have the feeling the Doflamingo Seraphin is the one behind everything. He is the only one we haven't yet seen and would be cool if by any chance he developed a personality that could overwrite the vegapunks commands
Neither Moria and Crocodile
Just my theory but I think it happened like this -
Caribou had sneaked in the building after Zorro left him and somehow came to know about vegapunk & the seraphim's command hierarchy.After the incident with bonnie he kidnappes stella and threatens him to command the seraphims to eleminate every thrate in the building for him and it's the whole mistrey.Caribou is the only one who can easily undo the barrier without anyone noticing in the other chapter with his powers.
I'm pretty sure the shadow monster is the Shrek man Caribou considering he's already on egghead and the shape matches pretty well
Can seraphs use haki? It's an expression of willpower and they're completely subservient to others. I can't remember seeing them use it at all but I also don't pay a lot of attention sometimes.
Yikes! Rob Lucci is now a Crew member? WTF!?!?
No. It's just a clickbait for this video. They are kind of working together for one chapter or two
it's clickbate
vegapunk has a second personality inside of him
I believe that the shadow is our most hated snot guy, Trebol. The silhouette has the same face shape as him and I think it might make sense that more of Doffys crew might be there seeing as Vegapunk was experimenting with senor pinks df
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i have serious doubts that there is a traitor among the vegapunks. i think the 5 elders placed a command into s-bear, s-bear then passed that order to the others.
"No one expected this" apart from Liam in the last video lol
Luffy:I want to hear you say it
Lucci:I WANT TO LIVE
I'm thinking the egghead arc is now like a mystery genre with sci fi and horror. Similar to the video game Among us. Oda is just a genius
Lucci joining straw hat seems a stretch because what can he offer the straw hats. Each member have a role, what's is Lucci? Does he have good eye sight, maybe he can be look out? But the chance's are very slim.
Oda is giving every reader's suspense about the final straw hats. The final straw hats is someone with a color white. Each character has their own color. Just a thought, I can be wrong.
I think the miscalculation that the vegapunks made is that they actually have any control over the Seraphim. It's highly likely that they are doing this of their own free will.
Luffy has always pulled people to him with his will but now that he’s awakened maybe it’s to strange for anyone to resist which is why everyone wants to be friends with the straw hats that get close to them.
Luffy charisma all natural not from the DF.
Getting usopp vs Perona vibes with s-snake, hes definitely gonna be so scared it'll out power the love fruits ability
A lot of people are confused by Nami leaving the diamonds but once Edison mentioned they’re man made… Nami saw it as a business venture and since the punks are hopefully gonna tag along with them she could have a endless supply of diamonds and sell them for berries hence the reason she left the bag for the eventually hope of having an untapped amount.
If faking your own hit is something Vegapunk would do, and I agree it's what I would do, the question of allegiance remains - who is the one being fooled? Pythagoras got attacked and York got petrified but I am suspicious that it's maybe the classic "extract yourself to avoid suspicion." Anyone of them is capable of faking surprise.
it was pretty telegraphed, considering Oda's writing style, but i think we all ignored the possibility out of spite for Lucci
I mean oda did mention unexpected team ups. Just like garp and kattakuri might be fighting alongside each other
Not to forget all the oldschool hightech stuff for Franky :D I think he is going to integrate the bubblegun into his standard equipment :D
A non leathal highly effective gun sounds like a nice upgrade for the lionboat.
I wonder if perhaps the traitor is a clone of Stella himself. Maybe he was a failed experiment and was locked away until the attack by cp0 busted his jail and now wants revenge. But if the traitor is actually Saturn himself then it would explain how he overrides the seraphim and why they’re killing both the vegapunks and cp0 (perhaps to tie up loose ends incase they know too much)
I wonder if the shadow that destroyed the camera may potentially be from an S-Gecko Seraphim that we haven't seen yet that is using its replicated Kage Kage no Mi Devil Fruit ability from Moria.
I thought Pythagoras by the end implied it was S-Snake who attacked him? Isn't he the one who tells York to stay away from her? I think
The main confirmation of the chapter is you only need to find s-snake adorable for her powers to work
Theory:
The panty realm is where brook came from
The shadowy figure looked 100% like Kuma. The only question I had at that point was whether it was a Pacifista, S-Bear, or the original Kuma himself.
I wonder what would happened if a Vegapunk command a seraphim to not listen to any orders anymore...
Would they do nothing or what they want?
This chapter is filled with so many details that a lot of people missed or ignored. Oda did a good job of narrowing down who the traitor is without directly saying who it is.
I guess that means one Seraphim equals an awakened zoan and a conqueror haki user.
I like the idea that Stella is a clone. The real vegapunk made an actual clone that looks just like he does just in case he gets assassinated. And possibly Shaka is the actual Stella body
Vegapunk is probably chill now since he did the whole Father/Pain thing and got rid of the worst aspects of his personality, but back in the day he was probably full time beast mode savage
I can't wait til we get this all animated. Everything from wano til now will be a movie
I feel like people are really overlooking the shadow figure. It honestly just looks like a pacifista or S-Bear raising it’s hand to beam the den den mushi. Take into account that S-Snake was the infiltrator elsewhere, and that S-Hawk and S-Bear infiltrated the control center from the very location the shadow figure came from, it seems like this should be a simple explanation. However, we never fucking know with Oda
I had same feeling when I was reading this chapter
We have dog-flamingo lets have kai-dog too[day 93]
No one also expected the empty throne to not be empty but yet called the empty throne
I Was thinking that the current events was because DR. Vegapunk (the old guy with the apple antenna head) had decided to test the Straw Hats' fighting abilities... he probably was using them as an example in the worst case scenario that the seraphim are flawed, so he has to test them against the Yonko Luffy and his pirate crew...
OR, he is just testing out the straw hats to see if he is in safe hands while on the trip with them on the thousand Sunny...
I think its obvious that the siloutte is saturn, it looks so much like him and the gorosei are the only ones who have authority over vegapunk to control the seraphim, thats why this is the first time we have seen one outside of their room, he was needed to take control of the seraphim
There are people that literally earn their livelihood by analyzing and discussing the most subtle and minute details of every one piece panel … There’s not a single person seeing Saturn in that panel-and you’re not the first one to be noticing something. No, you can’t tell it’s Saturn-hence the entire purpose of the silhouette, you absolute dumbass. I hope it actually is Saturn using a new ability we haven’t seen-but there’s not visible attributes resembling Saturn. Stop.
@@GourSmith what are you even talking about, i just said my theory which makes a lot of sense ofc no one knows who exactly is, thats why we are discussing it
@@weepashbp2270 Your theory is goofy and fruity. Oda isn’t stupid. He’s not making BB a disappointing clone of Xebec. We already know Vegapunk’s first clone is Stussy. Then the seraphim. Since this is “just your theory” … Who do you theorize it was that cloned Xebec? It’s possible he’s the son of Xebec-definitely not a clone. Keep the nonsense to yourself.
@@GourSmith when did i say those things? 😭
@@weepashbp2270 And what things are you talking about? Why act dumb questions in addition to retarded theories? If you mean the quote, I’m literally just taking your words. You quite literally said “I just said my theory”. Why the dumb questions?
oh I like the fact that the silhouetted monster is non other than Tsserreidnic.. nice one !
I've been waiting for this, brook will get his chance to shine this arc
I’ve had a problem with vegapunks connection to mads for a long time actually. So you are a part of an organization that turns out be 100% evil with the exception of you? Riiiiiggggghhhhtttt!
oden face gang !
This is why Tekking is so much better, he doesn't have clickbait thumbnails and his titles actually mean something.
This chaoter was so gooood
The thumbnail reminds me of when I used to think Kaku would join the crew after Wano. Given the Three Seas Theory and how he shared some traits with Usopp and Franky, I my thought was valid. That said, I have abandoned it now.
The Vegapunks pulled the seraphim out of combat the second they realized that Franky had a laser. Stop overlookin this man, especially when he's in scrap a mechanic's heaven.
If that silhouette is Saturn it would make sense because hes higher on the hierarchy than Vegapunk
I kinda knew that Luffy and Lucci would have to team up in this arc, but I *_never_* would have expected Lucci making the suggestion first.
Why haven’t anyone considered holographic tech as a possibility for hiding in plain sight… I suppose Edison/pythagors who suggested battle training have leaned into it for masking it possible
York going there to S-Snake all of a sudden and getting stoned like that is shady to me. We also know very less about her and this could be a good way to make it look like she a victim
The one thing that still ways heavy on my mind is Kizaru ways already on the way to egghead on orders from Akainu or someone else I’m not sure that is clear. So the chance that he was already on the way with Garcia is a slim chance and since he learned luffy was there he ordered more battleships. It’s not impossible to think that Kizaru and Garcia just arrived as the battle was going on and they could’ve been the cause of the doom going down for a few seconds but more than one person causing havoc right now is seeming a lot more likely.
Note, the CP9 already went rogue for a while. They had that cover story where they ran off to patch up Lucci after the whole Enies Lobby saga. They did come back to WG side and get promotions to CP0, but we have precedent for them running off from the government. And precedent for the World Government to hunt them down as a punishment for failure as well now that I think about it.
There is No vegapunk Traitor!! This is the work of Mr2 giving orders as Vegapunk without knowing Luffy is caught up in the mess
The freaking Manga and anime are taking too much time to move along the pace it's like someone getting up from bed to open the door but instead of doing it at normal time speed which is roughly 30 seconds it takes them 5 fucking days. Shit is ridiculous.
I wonder how the seraphim compare to the ogs as they're obviously built to be stronger wonder how long it will take if they get there
is imu a traitor satellite from the void century? Vega punk is trying to recreate the tech of the ancient kingdom. it would be fitting the vega punk runs into the safe problems they did.
The thumbnail of this video is AMAZING…….MASTERPIECE 😂😂♥️
Most importantly, now that York is stoned, what happens if Vegapunk needs to poop? Are they shit out of luck?
Here after chapter 1078, Pythagoras did in fact spit it out, and we all missed it. Oda did it again 😂