⚠️ The Straw Hats Just Got BETRAYED ⚠️ (1071+)

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  • @GrandLineReview
    @GrandLineReview  Год назад +80

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  • @mastouriedam5845
    @mastouriedam5845 Год назад +1807

    It could be caribou who lowered the defences

    • @Vashtiian
      @Vashtiian Год назад +134

      Ohooo I forgot about him

    • @ThePieGuy3
      @ThePieGuy3 Год назад +159

      While he certainly has more of a motivation than the straw hats, if we're gonna consider him then we have to consider the straw hats because just like them, he shouldn't know how to bring down the defences

    • @NulKenos
      @NulKenos Год назад +57

      We all forgot about caribou

    • @person54454
      @person54454 Год назад +26

      How would he know how? Plus there was supposedly nobody in the control room

    • @demonmurasame733
      @demonmurasame733 Год назад +32

      @@NulKenos Who doesn't forget about caribou :D He is so unnotably that the detection system of the Dome probably did not register him either.

  • @nottdeny
    @nottdeny Год назад +12

    10:35 this aged well😂

  • @TheSkullivan12
    @TheSkullivan12 Год назад +416

    I think the key to cracking this mystery lies with Stussy. When CP0 were shown reacting to the defenses being lowered, Lucci, Kaku, and all of the cannon fodder were shown shown as being variously cautious and excited for the opportunity they just got. But Stussy had a much more thoughtful expression that Oda chose to highlight in her own panel. We already know Stussy knows a lot more about Egghead than she's letting on. I think Stussy has some idea about who or what was responsible for this, and it may even be something else that's a problem for CP0.

    • @munchies982
      @munchies982 Год назад +10

      Stussy was present on the MADS flashback cover

    • @adriasagues7265
      @adriasagues7265 Год назад +13

      @@munchies982 no, we can't know for sure that's her

    • @AgeofJP
      @AgeofJP Год назад +25

      @@adriasagues7265 Don't you know yet? With One Piece any theory and headcanon are to be treated as facts and everyone who disagrees is dumb, a powerscaler, forgot that one chapter that *definetly* proves it or doesn't know Oda's writing at all...and if none of those apply just insult their viewpoint with anything that comes to mind. And remember, "logic" is whatever you see it as, it's a loose definition that can prove everything you think as correct.
      Oh and don't forget to never address an actual argument, just counter it with a hypothetical you pull out from whatever bodily crevice you prefere to sit on.
      I hope this little guide can help you discuss fan theories in the future

    • @PROPAROXITONO
      @PROPAROXITONO Год назад +1

      VP can be in love with her... would make sense.

    • @NutsInYourMouth
      @NutsInYourMouth Год назад +5

      @@AgeofJP i dont know how to defend against those arguments, i'll turn to just insult you, you _____ (insert insult)!

  • @27Metaldragon
    @27Metaldragon Год назад +289

    My thought is it's our mystery ally. As soon as Vegapunk asked them for help the shield went down. So this mystery character could just be inviting CP0 in to get rid of them so they can all escape without a trace.

    • @jayrodr897
      @jayrodr897 Год назад +23

      A big part of why this is my thinking as well is because CP0 only stands a chance against the Straw Hats while they have the Seraphim with them. If the Seraphim see any of the Vegapunks, said Vegapunks will get them to attack CP0 again, like Sentomaru did.

    • @TheSavageAdult
      @TheSavageAdult Год назад +11

      Had the same exact thought. There is no traitor. The Ally is isolating top CP0 members from Seraphim and take them out or rather have Straw Hats take them out inside the Dome. Alternatively I think OG Vegapunk might have been the one who lowered those defense for the same reason since he was also not in the room. Since no one was detected in Control Room, my guess is Vegapunk used that invention of his which he used to get from Luffy's group to Nami's.

    • @eliaspanayi3465
      @eliaspanayi3465 Год назад +4

      Aha, with cp0 isolated from the marines, there will be be no witnesses to see this person, keeping them safe

    • @crammothy
      @crammothy Год назад +3

      I always had the impression that it was the mystery ally. As soon as he got the order it went down. And now CP0 are alone without help on the same area as a Yonko and his crew. Zoro is literally using 2 swords with no Haki against Kaku lol. They don’t stand a chance so it might be the mystery ally trying to take them out to maybe take the seraphims back or something

    • @TSCStag
      @TSCStag Год назад

      Oo I like this thought

  • @acetrainerrudd5044
    @acetrainerrudd5044 Год назад +41

    It was the original vegapunk, the Stella. In one of the panels before the defenses go down, he says “so there’s no way to avoid fighting, even in the course of escape…” with a look of deep thought. I’m willing to bet his thought process is “we’re going to fight regardless, so it’s better if the enemy comes to us, rather us go to them”. He may have a trick up his sleeve, but I think he released the defenses because he calculated the best chance for escape would be fighting on their terms instead of going right outside to the enemy. Additionally, If you look at the page when the defenses go down, Rob Lucci says “wait… it could be a trap!” And Stussy has a look on her face that shows she may have an idea as to what occurred. If she was in MADS with Vegapunk, she would know how he thinks and would have an idea as to why he would do this, hence her reaction. Edit: we also don’t know for a fact that Stella was being chased at the very moment defenses went down. We only see him begin chased after all this goes down.

  • @NicoSleepyLeen
    @NicoSleepyLeen Год назад +568

    Either Oda is doing the red herring with Lilith being the most obvious one and she's not the culprit, or it's a red herring on a red herring where it's actually Lilith but Oda makes it too obvious so we think it's someone else

    • @Yaqins
      @Yaqins Год назад +39

      I have a feeling that it's gonna be Shaka. He is the obvious choice for a twist since he is the opposite of Lilith.

    • @carlosfilipe2077
      @carlosfilipe2077 Год назад +6

      thats TEACH invsible man cmon

    • @jesusriced
      @jesusriced Год назад +6

      Caribou

    • @xxmension04xx47
      @xxmension04xx47 Год назад +11

      its not a red herring, its people taking lilith being evil too literally and just deciding "oh she is evil, so she must be the traitor" when chapter 1071 literally prevents that

    • @blacc_rain8124
      @blacc_rain8124 Год назад +6

      @@carlosfilipe2077 broooo. You might be onto something

  • @bearzerger
    @bearzerger Год назад +77

    Shaka has been suspicious from the start, acting in the shadows and with his menacing design. However, if he has some sneaky plan to double cross them, whether for real or only pretending to because his sacrifice would be the lowest cost, I do think it will come later. Instead I think it was Edison who lowered the shield. He's right there saying how he has an idea right after the Stella body concludes there's no way to avoid fighting. Either the shield is lowered and CP9 comes to them or they eventually leave the shield and have CP9 waiting for them. So why not fight on their home turf?

  • @Kaiser-qx9ys
    @Kaiser-qx9ys Год назад +104

    I love this new structure: when we have a break, splitting up the chapter review into separate videos is fantastic, we can go more in depth into aspects and also gives us more videos to watch over 2 or 3 weeks!

    • @tomaskalinka5679
      @tomaskalinka5679 Год назад +2

      I dont know about this, i am just so confused and cant find the review video :D

    • @chromo-sapienguy6879
      @chromo-sapienguy6879 Год назад +1

      🤡

    • @Kaiser-qx9ys
      @Kaiser-qx9ys Год назад +2

      @@chromo-sapienguy6879 bro Buggy wasn’t in this chapter 🤔

    • @TiltCntrlz
      @TiltCntrlz Год назад

      @@tomaskalinka5679 That's the one thing I would complain about Liam's current video strategy... I used to love watching the weekly reviews again, like now we got a break, I'd rewatch every chapter review since the end of Wano.
      But he stopped clearly identifying which videos were chapter reviews... Now it all just blends in.

    • @GourSmith
      @GourSmith Год назад

      Fuck that. Give me chapters every week and the various videos to go with them. Stop the nonsense.

  • @jennydragon2
    @jennydragon2 Год назад +157

    What if it was Brooke mucking around as a ghost because he got bored on the ship and coincidentally/accidentally lowered the island's defence. Literally a Ghost in the Machine.
    It's stupid but possible because we haven't seen him in a while

    • @firefistzuttv9399
      @firefistzuttv9399 Год назад +5

      That would be dope

    • @MerchHunterRicky
      @MerchHunterRicky Год назад +2

      Can he touch things in ghost form? Ive always wondered

    • @philipandrews9938
      @philipandrews9938 Год назад +8

      @@MerchHunterRicky Have we ever seen his ghost form go through tech before? Its quite possible he just went exploring and accidentally short-circuited the shield
      Honestly Brooke's clear absense for awhile now (stayed outside with Zoro yet isn't shown on the ship with him now) and the fact Luffy and Chopper were shown to literally touch and play with every piece of tech they came across before finding Vegepunk makes it quite possible Brooke was merely doing the same and broke the shield by accident

    • @MerchHunterRicky
      @MerchHunterRicky Год назад +4

      @@philipandrews9938 damn. You make a mean and solid point

    • @1992jomama
      @1992jomama Год назад

      Would the sensors even pick up a skeleton? He probably thought he was helping by deactivating the shield.

  • @JohneeBlaize
    @JohneeBlaize Год назад +21

    I viewed it in a way different than most. I don't think it was a traitor. I think it was strategy. A really good one. Kaku, Stussy, and Lucci are now separated from the rest of Cipher Pol and the Seraphim. And they are in a position, where they will have to take on the SH alone. Lets say Sentomaru gets up again. He would then be able to gain control of the Seraphim, with no resistance. Which would then put Lucci and co in a pincer atk. Strawhats in front. Seraphim in bacc. At least, thats the possibility I see.

  • @MrWhatdafuBOOM
    @MrWhatdafuBOOM Год назад +14

    Oda watching Kung Fu Panda = Kung Fu Point
    Oda watching Zootopia = Zou Arc
    Oda playing Among Us = Egghead Arc
    Oda playing God Of War Ragnarok = Elbaf Arc(?)

    • @ilyes3300
      @ilyes3300 Год назад +2

      oda watching jojo = okama island arc

  • @KOTK11
    @KOTK11 Год назад +104

    I’d actually argue York is entirely capable of opening up the defences. All of the Vegapunk are geniuses, and it’s very possible that they could make something to do so not only work when they want but remotely too. As for motive, well at the end of the day people have emotions, and one of said emotions is resentment. Resentment over, as you yourself described, being a communal toilet. York not being happy with their lot in life could very well just want it to end, whether that end involves any of the Vegapunk’s dying or not ultimately might not matter to them.

    • @vvs25
      @vvs25 Год назад +8

      Ugh did u have to be woke with the pronouns

    • @thomaspowerlifting
      @thomaspowerlifting Год назад +5

      @@vvs25 LMFAO WHAT?

    • @slipknota7xeg
      @slipknota7xeg Год назад +5

      @@vvs25 Umm, what woke pronouns are you talking about?

    • @DP9k
      @DP9k Год назад +5

      I think you’ve misunderstood how it works, the punks arent making york go to the toilet when they want, she’s just the only one that needs to, her entire job is basically just to eat sleep and use the toilet, that sounds like an ideal weekend to me, the other vegapunks probably cant even eat food which sounds pretty miserable

    • @randomdragen1015
      @randomdragen1015 Год назад +3

      @@vvs25 u crazy?

  • @lacabra1279
    @lacabra1279 Год назад +15

    I hadn-t realized Vegapunks main body is called Stella. That means Star, and I find interesting that a Star Motif has been appearing throughout the arc, making it possibly secretly related.

    • @wagnus1923
      @wagnus1923 Год назад +2

      Makes sense. As the main body is like a star the satellites revolve around lol

  • @TheLiveActionBrook
    @TheLiveActionBrook Год назад +13

    Something that helps your theory about Shaka being the stella Vegapunk is that during his conversation with Robin he addressed himself as the past Vegapunk. It can be that every one of them remembers the past and addresses himself as "the" Vegapunk but I've just found it interesting.

  • @afougrazomai
    @afougrazomai Год назад +24

    I really like the theory that Shaka is the real Vegapunk but my suspect for this treason is Pythagoras.
    The fact that we haven't seen him act more autonomously doesn't mean that he doesn't have a distinct personality like Lilith, Atlas or Shaka. I believe that being the wisdom one he did what he thought was the wisest choice. Surrender both the "target" of the assassins and the lawless pirates while the Stella body is being chased around. I also believe that he is the only one that can use the controls from afar. Every Vegapunk have their own unique inventions. Edison comes up with all sorts of ideas (he is something of a generalist), Atlas invented ways to punch fight even light...and then made things out of light to punch fight. Lilith wanted big robots to kill murder. I believe that York invented something to lose/gain weight as easily as that (all the Vegapunks seem either human or robot so what we see in York doesn't fit with either category).

  • @philipandrews9938
    @philipandrews9938 Год назад +84

    Surprised Brooke wasn't mentioned since he has been absent for awhile now. He and Zoro decided to stay outside the lab and in this chapter we find Zoro has returned to the Sunny for a nap but we haven't seen Brooke since nor is he shown fighting CP0 alongside Zoro.
    He's dead and has a ghost form, both of which would presumably mean he wouldn't show up on a scanner (fitting the "nobody there" criteria) and its not certain the shield was dropped intentionally (Luffy and Chopper were effectively pressing every button they came across before finding Vegapunk too, so who's to say Brooke didn't do the same)

    • @Renaiiii
      @Renaiiii Год назад +17

      Even if it was him he 100% didn't do it on purpose

    • @GarryDKing
      @GarryDKing Год назад +11

      lol so while the vegapunks think like it's an among us game, it'd really have been an idiot play from the straw hats then?

    • @philipandrews9938
      @philipandrews9938 Год назад +6

      @@Renaiiii I know, I meant him mocking about with the tech just like Luffy & Chopper were doing.
      Its also possible we get a reveal his ghostform shortcircuits machinery if he passes through and he did so by accident while exploring

    • @vegitasama7633
      @vegitasama7633 Год назад +1

      lol i first thought of him

    • @mascarademermelada8746
      @mascarademermelada8746 Год назад +1

      Ever since kanjuro betrayed the samurais i've been thinking this was ODA foreshadowing the same for the strawhats. And we really don't know that much about brook, only his tragic story.

  • @exzy_azar
    @exzy_azar Год назад +10

    If Caribou did it, it would make sense either because he’s working for someone close by or he just wanted to leave 😂

  • @karatsukiawildfemboy2326
    @karatsukiawildfemboy2326 6 месяцев назад +6

    lmao
    "york is the most obviously innocent"

  • @PRM560
    @PRM560 Год назад +2

    what if Caribou is the one that blocked the system with his mud fruit

  • @chanceplace6057
    @chanceplace6057 Год назад +6

    It could be Bonney who lowered the denfenses to kill Vegapunk
    Edit: What if Edison is trying to trap CP0 in the Labosphere? The Labospheres defenses attack anything trying to enter, but it's also reasonable to assume that if someone were to try and leave with them on they would get attacked upon entering it's range. What if Edison wants to activate the Labopheres defenses once everyone has left it and destroy the off switch trapping CP0 inside?

  • @XhadowScythe
    @XhadowScythe Год назад +5

    GLR, the little drawings add so much value to your channel! As a long time fan this sort of evolution is really nice to see! Keep it up mate!

  • @Hero_of_Holios
    @Hero_of_Holios Год назад +2

    I believe it was the ally of Vegapunk, the mystery person who the Stella Body asked for help. This person has also been "Waiting for your order" as they stated to Vegapunk. I think it was this ally that has been itching for a fight and escape that lowered the defenses so they could fight and leave at their leasue.

  • @ErebusGraves
    @ErebusGraves Год назад +4

    Loved the video. Would love to hear your opinion on Vegapunk calling the paramecia fruits paramythia. Not sure if I just read a misprint version, but changing it to paramythia makes more sense from a storytelling perspective and changes that catagory entirely. It could even mean that all paramythia fruits get their powers from the myths of the one piece world. So it’s not just one person wishing a fruit into existence but a collective of people and their wills that creat the concept of each devilfruit.

  • @mileyda55
    @mileyda55 Год назад +80

    Could it have been accidental? While Bonnie was chasing Stella, they could have knocked something in the control room. When they checked the cameras they were no longer there because they ran out of that room already.

    • @jessiehogue.
      @jessiehogue. Год назад +5

      It most definitely could have been that simple, for sure. But I doubt Oda would have called attention to it being mysterious if it was that simple, so I don't think it is.

    • @vegitasama7633
      @vegitasama7633 Год назад +4

      as the person above me said
      if it was that simple oda would have shown the moment they hit the lowering down defense system moment
      cause without showing it
      it would be just unnecessary hype and mystery in that tight situation

    • @KajutaTychy
      @KajutaTychy Год назад +4

      @@jessiehogue. he did exactly that with the "broken" momonosukes dragon devil fruit, for a couple of years we were thinking what does it mean and then what? Its broken because its Pink

    • @jessiehogue.
      @jessiehogue. Год назад +3

      @@KajutaTychy That's not a big reveal at all. It's only 'why Vegapunk thinks it's broken'. It's an opinion, nothing else.
      Here, we have 'why did someone drop the security system allowing our enemies to get in and endangering all of our lives'. It's a tad more important, and if it was just 'Bonney and Vegapunk crashed into the console, I am 100% confident Oda would have shown it.

    • @chanceplace6057
      @chanceplace6057 Год назад

      It could have been intentional by Bonnie to get vegapunk killed for all we know

  • @Pxe4
    @Pxe4 Год назад +3

    I love how this arc is turning in a game of chess like vegapunk plays the “shields gambit” and lucci counters with “shields gambit accepted”which of course is a bad move as their queen(kizaru) is sea locked and vegapunks queen(luffy) is right in the centre covering all areas

  • @baratacom
    @baratacom Год назад +31

    It is also possible that there's a third faction present on the island
    Who is this faction and why did they do it I have no idea, but if that were to be the case, this lowering of the defenses would likely be some sort of test for the straw hats, Vegapunks or just "leaving things up to fate"
    However, it still doesn't explain no one being detected, which would require it to be the one person who has an invisibility fruit, but that someone would be an ally to CP0 so they would be expecting such a thing

    • @victorkao1472
      @victorkao1472 Год назад +9

      If there’s a third faction, then it would be caribou
      He’s always that random guy that pops into an arc

    • @Mr._Ultracool
      @Mr._Ultracool Год назад +1

      Isn't Absalom's fruit currently floating around?

    • @IAmGodHimself777
      @IAmGodHimself777 Год назад +4

      @@Mr._Ultracool Nope. Shiryu has it.

    • @cian8866
      @cian8866 Год назад +1

      i dont know about Shiryu's fruit but considering that vega punk knows a lot about DFs, wouldnt he be putting a feature that could detect DF users as well? 🤔
      after all, the whole Lab is his brain so he must secure it against DF users too.
      or he just might not know about invisibility DF 🤷🏼

  • @vindurza
    @vindurza Год назад +4

    Oh please we all know what Shaka's motivation is he's up all night to get lucky.

  • @nobodysbusinezz
    @nobodysbusinezz Год назад +6

    The theory that I had while reading was that the secret helper that they asked for aide was responsible for turning off the defenses. The defenses go down right after they talk to the mystery man on the phone and even Lucci thinks it is a trap. But I like the idea of someone framing them too. Hopefully we find out soon!

  • @tdenb
    @tdenb Год назад +60

    My theory is that Shaka is the "traitor". Shaka stated that it is their goal to keep the stella vegapunk alive and I think he does this with 2 mayor steps.
    Step 1: Get all Satalites killed. They dont need to live in order for stella to survive
    Step 2: make sure Vegapunk loses his connection to his stored brain, this way he becomes useless for the marines and they may let him live

    • @pookumz123
      @pookumz123 Год назад +7

      He would be nothing but a liability without that connection though, they would not let him live

    • @xxmension04xx47
      @xxmension04xx47 Год назад

      uh small problem, step 2 is essentially making stella brain dead

  • @Aldoospeo
    @Aldoospeo 10 месяцев назад +4

    10:03 how this aged

  • @sergiosaintgiorgio6697
    @sergiosaintgiorgio6697 Год назад +1

    It was Edison, he tried to convince the main vegapunk to not call the mystery person for help.

  • @Tbone053
    @Tbone053 Год назад +13

    I really like the Shaka theory you laid out. Shaka has always been suspicious to me because of the mask and the fact that his personality seems much broader than one emotion or style of thinking.

  • @lordfreezer5631
    @lordfreezer5631 Год назад +16

    What if it was actually Kizaru? I mean he was already near the islan and the marines of course needed the shields system to be lowered too. So my theory is that Kizaru used his light powers to get on the islands undetected and open the way for his men. Also Kizaru could have already have some knowledge about the islands due to his relationships with Sentomaru and Vegapunk. Not to mention that this chapter doesn't show Kizaru and his ship in any capability while the previous chapter put an emphasis on his imminent arrival

  • @lethabomoshe3582
    @lethabomoshe3582 Год назад +4

    Hypothetically, I think Vegapunk stella is the perpetrator but at the same time not the traitor. I believe it was a situation where Vegapunk needed to get away from Bonney so he temporarily disabled the systems remotely so that he could get on the other side of the force field to avoid being harmed, which unfortunately resulted in CP0 taking advantage of that opportunity to infiltrate the lab.

  • @dr.e.6555
    @dr.e.6555 Год назад +3

    I think its the mysteryman that was supposed to help them defend against CP0. He could lower the shields to let them inside where he knows the place and have the advantage of home ground.
    I do like the idea of stella and shaka being switched, things like that happens a lot in anime

  • @Specsboy1999
    @Specsboy1999 Год назад +5

    I could see it being Brook (as a ghost) or Caribou doing it by accident.

  • @someyeeterontheblock2421
    @someyeeterontheblock2421 Год назад +6

    From what I recall vegapunk and his satellite bodies kind of share of mind where they can essentially add all of their information and experiences from their lives to his main brain. So if somebody was a traitor don't you think that all the traitoris deeds that they did would be implanted in his main brain so he would know who was guilty unless that person went out of the way to not share their information with the main brain or could somehow withhold certain information or am I they're wrong on that

  • @sidd99.11
    @sidd99.11 6 месяцев назад +1

    How funny it is that the most unsuspected one was the real traitor 😂😂😂

  • @hectorbonillapardo7207
    @hectorbonillapardo7207 Год назад +1

    It’s York, she is greed meaning that she could see the opportunity of the CPO eliminating the other punks and therefore she being the only person with that kind of smart and knowledge. Being drawn naive of the attack can be another Kanjuro situation where Oda wants us not to think to much of her.

  • @patricknez7258
    @patricknez7258 Год назад +4

    Amazing theory about Shaka and Stella. If Stella is actually Shaka that would be an amazing twist. Love the reference to Shaka being more like younger VP. That is quite compelling to me. Awesome vid well done

  • @Stachelbeeerchen
    @Stachelbeeerchen Год назад +4

    If there really Is a traitor I hope its Shaka

  • @AtmanRyu
    @AtmanRyu Год назад +2

    The idea that Shaka is the real Vegapunk (or at least the prime consciousness) is admittedly intriguing. Maybe it can also relate as the "reason" behind what he can (or cannot) do for Kuma.

  • @wagnus1923
    @wagnus1923 Год назад +1

    Shaka being the real main body works doubly well since his body type fits best for the original teaser image of him with his striped shirt when he's first mentioned

  • @kayd6572
    @kayd6572 Год назад +3

    Shaka. I kind of roll with the idea of him being the "real" Vegapunk for a particular reason :
    Having a mask while being in an obvious humanoid form, could be his last card up his sleeve in case he need to run. Once that mask took off, no one would know it's actually him. But to perform the trick he don't need the Straw Hats, he just need them to draw the CP0's attention while he make a run for it. Afterall, Vegapunk have no actual reason to trust Luffy with his life. Sure, he knows it's dragon's son and that Kuma even tried to protect him at some point but despite that and POTENTIALLY a few good words from Tashigi i don't believe that an all brainer like him will trust a Kid that defeated Kaidou in a very obscure one and one combat with his life.

  • @hyder7585
    @hyder7585 Год назад +3

    I'm not sure if shakas "mask" is a mask. He is technically a robot, could just be his head and how he's designed.

  • @benjamind.collette6468
    @benjamind.collette6468 Год назад

    Omg hahahahaha the light effects had me the moment I saw you Liam! It's a light source from below as if it's time for spooky campfire tales LMAO. Makes you look super serious and grim hahahaha

  • @dwaynealexander9134
    @dwaynealexander9134 Год назад +1

    Bonnie is the reason the shield dropped and the real Kuma is on the island as the mysterious equalizer

  • @omaralae2524
    @omaralae2524 Год назад +3

    I think its brook since he wasn't detected on their radars, they probably tried detecting living things and couldn't see him CUZ HES NOT ALIVE ANYMORE YOHOHO, he probably pressed the big red button on accident thats my guess

  • @e.r.c.3717
    @e.r.c.3717 Год назад +7

    What if Kuma is the first man who tested Vegapunks split personality techniques. But he didn't split properly and his split persona doesn't survived in another body. So his real body has no consciousness and his real consciousness is inside Egghead Islands brain. That's why he can control the dome.

    • @barbastos
      @barbastos Год назад +2

      Doubt it very much.

    • @Aw1Som3Rbx
      @Aw1Som3Rbx Год назад +2

      Lets say your theory is correct then what reason could Kuma have to open the dome?

    • @e.r.c.3717
      @e.r.c.3717 Год назад +1

      @@Aw1Som3Rbx Boredom maybe. Point is original Kuma is somewhere in that place.

  • @heroepato
    @heroepato Год назад +1

    1:23 maybe we should have looked into that food coma thing

  • @leightonrud66
    @leightonrud66 Год назад +5

    I'd die if the real kuma was the one hiding. And then that brings the question as to why pacifistas were created of kuma specifically? Why was the main one given to the celestials? Surely not just as punishment

    • @robinaabbasi1052
      @robinaabbasi1052 Год назад +1

      Punishment for being one of founder of Revolutionary Army and first Country that revolt against WG on national level

    • @leightonrud66
      @leightonrud66 Год назад

      I know that. What I said last. Surely not gonna just do all that over a punishment. Plus vegapunk isn't evil. Just a what if my guy.
      Vega has something for bonny, likely an audio log or something of kuma
      And its likely scopper tbh who is hiding. Gotta be strong enough to actually help out.

  • @revazs1959
    @revazs1959 Год назад +3

    Every week dr vegapunk is tryna trick us in one or another topic on his apple half brain 💀

  • @OnePiecePreacher
    @OnePiecePreacher Год назад

    BRO, I freakin love when you do these types of videos! Keep it up!

  • @nicholasjohnson2990
    @nicholasjohnson2990 Год назад

    Absolutely love the vids, thank you!

  • @ruthwiksairaghav
    @ruthwiksairaghav Год назад +4

    Ur videos make my day they are very entertaining

  • @yedffgd
    @yedffgd Год назад +4

    Another possible reason to suspect Shaka is that “good” in his case could very well mean “lawful” rather than “moral”. After all, we’ve seen the government go out of their way to label themselves “good” and pirates “evil” throughout the series. Adding to this is that, despite being the Vegapunk of “evil”, Lilith generally seems to be more amoral than immoral. She can definitely be ruthless and cruel when it suits her, but she doesn’t seem to go out of her way to harm others for no reason.

  • @danieldietz1883
    @danieldietz1883 Год назад +1

    I think that it is the actual Kuma or the other side of the den den mushi. If the straw hats have ever met the real Kuma, it was on thriller bark. Px0 was the first generation sarafin. This would also explain why Vega Punk said that he can't change Kuma back. Because he has been hiding out on egg head island with the explicit instructions to Kuma that Vega Punk is to tell nobody of his existence.

  • @natluskarlsefni6646
    @natluskarlsefni6646 Год назад

    the background music at 0:31 so nostalgic!
    one of the OG GLR background music

  • @JakeMatthews-OnLo
    @JakeMatthews-OnLo Год назад +4

    I feel like Shaka could be Vegapunk’s successor or ideal self to carry his will after Stella is done for. Im guessing he’s a bio engineered clone who has a hybrid Lunarian body with the mask connecting him to punk records, giving Shaka an indestructible body and a superior mind.

  • @TheMagneo1998
    @TheMagneo1998 Год назад +3

    This video didn't age well 😂

  • @KHRAVINRAJ
    @KHRAVINRAJ Год назад +2

    I think it's Brook pulling a traitor plot twist. Can't be detected by normal sensors maybe due to being bones and we don't see much of him the last few chapters.

  • @FazartOrganization
    @FazartOrganization Год назад

    I appreciate the full-red background for this one.

  • @TheBigE9999
    @TheBigE9999 Год назад +3

    Lillith: betrays the group because she's evil and she thinks she can cut a deal to save her own skin
    Shaka: betrays the group because he's good and everyone here is a wanted criminal

  • @yonko1128
    @yonko1128 Год назад +3

    first

  • @gabrieldelgado6009
    @gabrieldelgado6009 Год назад

    i think that it's either shaka or atlas, being "injured" is the opportunity to do something like lower the shields and i like to think shaka may have done it, but he just doesn't realize that he has sort of like a failsafe or diavolo hiding in mistas body type thing.

  • @nessa6859
    @nessa6859 Год назад +2

    My left field theory is it's Caribou. He was upset Zoro kicked him off the ship and went wandering and did Caribou things.
    Maybe hiding from Bonny attacking Stella, accidentally triggered something, maybe on purpose. But all to set him up to over hear the truth about Kuma or another info bomb shell. I'd love this for the Memes,
    However I do think it's likely the mystery ally, basically to separate CP0 from the Seraphim, since they'll listen to the other Vegapunks.

  • @axeltheidiotfish9997
    @axeltheidiotfish9997 Год назад +3

    Second one here

  • @joelreichenbach5466
    @joelreichenbach5466 Год назад +2

    I still think the person hiding out in Vegapunk's base was the surviving member of CP0 from Wano, Josheph. He would be in hiding after leaking gear 5th luffy to Morgan and him lowering the defenses might be him accepting death or getting ready for a bigger twist

    • @Aw1Som3Rbx
      @Aw1Som3Rbx Год назад

      I forgot about him. We know he is still alive but have not seen him in awhile. It would make sense for him. But then the question is why was he not in the control room when it happend?

  • @vaporwingfauxmcloud1190
    @vaporwingfauxmcloud1190 Год назад +1

    This wasn't a betrayal.
    This was "Fk around and find out" if it were a murder kitty, giraffe or female person... this is one of those things that people see before a massacre is about to take place i.e They are now locked in the area with the Straw Hats, a very intelligent Vegapunk, and a person who we don't know who it is and apparently that person can hold off the Marines with the Admirals, CP0 and help the Strawhats escape with Vegapunk

  • @A1nox7
    @A1nox7 Год назад

    Man I love these paper sentomaru falling animation

  • @MonkeyDLuffy-rs5gc
    @MonkeyDLuffy-rs5gc Год назад +1

    I have a simpler explanation for this. It might as well just be Kizaru. He's the embodiment of light, he should be the fastest there is, the sensors wouldn't be able to detect a moving light that is also somewhat able to operate the defense system.

  • @beeflethals
    @beeflethals Год назад

    it could be one of the straw hats messing around and lowering the defenses by accident in some comical series of mishaps

  • @dinlpn45
    @dinlpn45 Год назад +1

    I don't believe one of the vegapunks is traitor is like choosing your own demise where is that sneaky Caribou 🤔

  • @helbramchasity6248
    @helbramchasity6248 Год назад

    I bet it was just something like bonney swinging at vegapunk, missing, and hitting a button to lower the defenses, then the same to close it

  • @robobo1726
    @robobo1726 Год назад +1

    Aren’t the satellites and Stella constantly sharing thoughts due to the internet brain thing? Wouldn’t that clear the vegapunks of all suspicion unless they were all in it?

  • @swimmingbird238
    @swimmingbird238 Год назад

    I think that the Labo Sphere had to be turned off for the secret ally to come in, as he knows how to power the fused vegapunks Vega-Zord.

  • @baldrian22
    @baldrian22 Год назад +1

    i thought it might be bonny accidentily damaging a part of the defences in her anger, it looks like she is swinging around a pipe of some kind and want to bash in the head of vegapunk, and if she was aware of things going on she wouldent mind using the cp0 to get rid of them either

  • @jestersage44
    @jestersage44 Год назад

    What if the mystery person they called for help is the one who turned off the dome? Going back to when Lucci says "Doesnt this seem too convenient?", maybe it's an attempt to isolate them?

  • @gimlee7664
    @gimlee7664 Год назад

    The one time we saw Vega punk, where it was everything below his head. It looked more like Shaka then the short and stubby vegapunk. It’s more likely Shaka started off using a robot stellar to communicate

  • @johnnypollack3243
    @johnnypollack3243 Год назад

    Love the video and keep up the great work Liam

  • @MerchHunterRicky
    @MerchHunterRicky Год назад +1

    Lowered defense part of last chapter made me stand up and go OOOOOH CRAP

  • @jfcm70
    @jfcm70 Год назад

    I don't know why but that "capital T lower case t" gag had me cracked 😬

  • @j.m.5746
    @j.m.5746 Год назад +1

    Classic Oda, throwing out multiple red herrings only for it to be the character he tried to make us all forget at the beginning of the arc. He enters the arc in a barrel and will leave the arc in a barrel. Caribou looking for anything to save himself, using the Straw Hats as bait. Makes a swift escape in one of the multiple marine ships incoming with miscellaneous marine dudes without Haki to detect him, nor hit him due to his logia powers. He'll take over the ship and we'll see him join up with either Black Beard or Cross Guild (still not sure) and tell them all about the ancient weapons.

  • @sammydanger7287
    @sammydanger7287 Год назад

    I personally read it as the mystery ally lowered the gate as to say, “all right, come up and catch these hands…”
    💥🥊

  • @Bolchang
    @Bolchang Год назад

    Love how chapter reviews are now, 1/2 opinions about chapter and other half become theory videos about next week. Gotta pump this content

  • @im_wubb
    @im_wubb Год назад +1

    Isn't caribou still on the boat/with the the straw hat crew? He fits all the criteria including them not being able to detect him

  • @noworneversoulbeach
    @noworneversoulbeach Год назад

    It was either the old man on accident when he lost his focus while being chased or it’s just Lilith OR Lilith offered York food to do it.😂

  • @ericbielsaprio3766
    @ericbielsaprio3766 Год назад

    Loved the lighting on this one

  • @Trey-wl5mx
    @Trey-wl5mx Год назад

    Maybe the Stella Dr. Vegapunk disabled them with his brain waves to the Punk Records/control room to get away from Bonney. It would explain why no one was detected in the control room

  • @WindUpTsukumo
    @WindUpTsukumo Год назад

    I think you forgot about caribou being on board of the sunny. He may have somehow got free of the barrel. Thanks to his devil fruit he could of slipped in through a crack. Then lowered the barriers. He for sure has motive to stop the straw hats and probably thinks he could just off in the chaos.

  • @brandonsellers1076
    @brandonsellers1076 Год назад +1

    I love that theory that the dopey "Stella" is the Good Vegapunk where as Shaka is Real. I'd love for that to be true because the Stella's goals feel so innocent and idealistic. Also, it's been Shaka giving us the history on Devil Fruits and Oda said that Vegapunk will be giving us that info. Perhaps that was foreshadowing that Shaka I indeed the real Vegapunk.
    Or perhaps Shaka saw that logically it made more sense to confront CP0 head on and escape by some other means.
    Either way, I like the above mentioned theory and would be cool if it were true

  • @erniewall3128
    @erniewall3128 Год назад +1

    Bonny taring that pipe off the wall, took down the security.

  • @timeemit846
    @timeemit846 Год назад +1

    What if there is another hidden seraphim? S-weevil, S-Teach? Both have been Warlords for plenty of long time.

  • @lilyblue3205
    @lilyblue3205 Год назад

    9:35 I see what you did there 😂

  • @laurabustos6560
    @laurabustos6560 Год назад

    Whoa, crazy uplighting. Liam looks like he stepped out of an old Bond movie. As the villain.

  • @dwightsmith1123
    @dwightsmith1123 Год назад +1

    One point no one seems to think about is the Seraphim. Who's to say mihawks Seraphim doesn't have the clear clear fruit. Also the idea that the cat is the one who shut the defences down seem quite possible since it did get a name card and we all assumed he would be important eventually

    • @dietcocaine220
      @dietcocaine220 Год назад +1

      absolom was never captured so the government could not collect his dna to clone the fruit

  • @shanks8192
    @shanks8192 Год назад +1

    It's Jimbee, he's the traitor! It was never clear how he escaped Whole Cake Island, and what deal he had to make to leave with his life from Big Mom's crew. There still a mystery what going on with Big Mom's crew after Wano.

  • @lebyandsmartiel318
    @lebyandsmartiel318 Год назад

    I appreciate the murder mystery lighting set up Mr Theatre Man

  • @00monkeydude001
    @00monkeydude001 Год назад +1

    we still dont know stuzzy's devil fruit if she has one. she might have something that effects electronics. or might just know how to disable them in the first place.