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And let me know what kind of blade you get!
Ok maybe🗿🗣️
I just might 🗣
Your sakazuki impersonations are gold😂
I love, I bought Enma, thank you for this nice collaboration and great OP chapter 🤯
BRO, there is also a chance that Bonney the daughter of KUMA has no Buccaneer tribe's blood flowing through her like her father. Her mother had a goblin-slayer-like experience when she was captured by the Marines, it was too late the father being Satazuki or some celestial dragon. But this is head cannon and should be disregarded, but damn it would be some dark twist to one piece if this happened.
We still wonder who is the lady crazy enough to be with Garp and have a son named *DRAGON.*
Beats the name Foxy😂
Laboon
Look at all the princesses "after" Luffy should be a clue
I think the answer is obvious, someone who wanted to see a Monkey-Dragon in the real world. Yohohoho
Kureha 💀
theory min at 10:15 that you said "Oda wouldnt do this" aged perfectly well
Sakazuki - Absolute Justice
Kuzan - Lazy Justice
Kizaru - Unclear Justice
Dragon - Revolutionary Justice
Dragon - Actual Justice
@@HazelEpicFunnyActual Justice sounds pretty based.
Fujitoro - Blind Justice
Ryokugyu - Followers Justice
@@mamabudgieclipper2735 ryokugiu : wifi justice
Fujitora seems like true justice
10:18 "This is even less likely tho.." aged like milk
The fact that Oda was able to take One Piece down such a dark path in the course of a few chapters really does make me question if we really do know One Piece.
10:30 well that aged well
You touched on something...I never thought that Kuma could've willingly chosen to become a robot to forget, or not feel some pain that he'd been subjected to. Damn.
3:40 I love the tragic circle that vivre card caused. Yamato gave it to Ace saying it would bring them back together. That vivre card brought Luffy to Impel Down and Marineford and led to the death of Ace, but in doing so it also led to the 2 year timeskip that ultimately brought Luffy (and, by inherited will proxy, Ace) to Wano
I have always thought that the R word was already implied on OP. When Boa Hancock and her sisters where made to eat their devil fruits for a world Noble entretainment. It is weird that Boa was given the love- love fruit. Also this would explain Boa's hatred for men, why she was so vulnerable to be seen naked and why Luffy ignoring her superficial beauty was so significant to her. 10:35
yea, also it was implied/confirmed that doffy had done that to viola
Yes but there's a stark difference in that implication, something only the older readers will catch onto, and the R word ending in physical results means the younger readers (target audience) will make them wonder how it happened and eventually piece it together, which definitely isn't needed.
@TamCake no, it was actual R. Iirc their "contract" was that she'll join his family and do anything as long as he doesn't kill Rebecca. It was a hostage situation.
Grandline review is being forgetful lately
@@ZERRO_M0LIXNo, It meant That Viola got Intimate with Doflamingo to get deep into his organization. Just because someone has intimate relations with someone they don't like it means it was R.
10:27 well this aged well....
You know who isn't gonna age though...
I absolutely love all the custom artwork you use in your videos, it makes them very enjoyable to watch along with the well crafted scripts you write!
Accidentally watched this out of order. So obviously saw 1098 first.
Mate some of these predictions… “I’m pretty sure Oda wouldn’t do the unspeakable thing”
Oda: “oh yeah? you’re about to find out!”
Wait now that kaido is dead, this is the perfect opportunity for the Dragon, Dragon fruit to consumed by Dragon. Its only fitting.
Maybe Dragon planned it so that luffy would fight and defeat kaido, so he could take his fruit.😂
It was so clear that Sakazuki was meant for dragon because he was always after Luffy because he is Dragon's son but because what he did to ace and his thirst for Luffy we always thought about the fight between them. But the fight between Dragon and Akainu makes much more sense and fluffy already has many opponents to him including Blackbeard and Im himself.
Dragon can't be bothered with Admiral stuff. He is aiming for Gorosei and Imu, at worst some Godknight.Still Flame Emperor vs Red Dog is a must.
@@user-jg2kd4uf3rTrue, Sabo NEEDS to run it back and settle the score for Ace
Lol, you want another OG Admiral to get one-shotted?
@@youtubewatcher8565 Bro, Oda didnt move Akainu to the top Marine position to get one shoted, you know well he is gonna wreck stuff in the story.
@@youtubewatcher8565 That is precisely why if makes sense for Sabo fo fight him as a final challenge. The same way Dragon needs to be Challenged and only the top tiers can do that , not his Teen Rival from his Cadet years.
Maybe its just because I recently watched "The Crow" but what if Kuma took all his lifetime of pain and forced it into Saturn?
Great movie btw
Or the movie "Powder"
That I would like to see. It would be poetic to see that the only thing able to beat Saturn not being some powerful devil fruit move but rather the amount of pain that he himself and his subordinate Celestial Dragons afflicted on Kuma.
10:16 -10:37 Oda did went that dark.... 😨
10:17 to 10:37.....
Turns out, One Piece IS that kind of series
Omg, who thought this chapter was boring? It was amazing. So deep in terms of character development.
Some people don't know how to appreciate the entirety of Oda's geniality
I genuinely cannot think of a time I read a chapter of one piece and was bored. They just dont go together
Fr
I just feel like oda can add a pic of some shitty side char scratching his balls and it will tie in to something 1.2k chapters later
The people who thought this chapter was boring are the ones obsessed with fights, power scaling, shipping characters etc. they are the degenerates of OP fans
@@letterkeys4440 so based
I remember people complaining about the Oden chapters too. Some people hate world building and character development and only want punch fighting.
Watched this a week late.. “oda wouldn’t go that dark” didn’t age well…
I wonder if you could awaken Kumas devil fruit and it could repel the pain you’ve taken in the past. I hope that like Kaido we cannot beat Saturn at the current level. But if Kuma knew that taking everyone’s pain his entire life could create a one time use attack that would inflict it all at once on a person. The man who confronted him at god valley taking thousands of “nothing happened’s” all at once.
I love this idea
It's an interesting idea to imagine what Kuma's awakened Devil Fruit could do. It's possible that it could allow him to repel the pain he's taken in the past, as you suggest. It's also possible that it could allow him to manipulate pain in other ways, such as inflicting pain on others or even nullifying pain entirely.
As for whether or not Kuma knew that taking everyone's pain his entire life could create a one-time use attack that would inflict it all at once on a person, that's more difficult to say. It's possible that he did know, and that's why he was so willing to take on the pain of others. Or, it's possible that he didn't know, and that the ability to inflict all of that pain at once is simply a side effect of his awakened Devil Fruit.
Either way, it would be fascinating to see what Kuma could do if he were to awaken his Devil Fruit. He's already a very powerful character, but with an awakened Devil Fruit, he could be unstoppable.
As for the idea of Kuma confronting the man who confronted him at God Valley, taking thousands of "nothing happened's" all at once, that's an epic scenario that I would love to see. It would be a fitting conclusion to Kuma's story, and it would be a testament to his strength and resilience.
Im pretty sure Kuma's devil fruit is already awakened, because the concept of a fruit that pushes things away suddenly being able to push away entire concepts sounds like an awakened ability, not a base fruit ability
I predict that in the next chapter, we'll see a sillhouette of what Dragon's powers truly looks like!
Kuma sad on the ground about whatever happens to Ginny and Dragon bringing havoc to those who harmed her? I smell a 1000/10 chapter
During Marineford, Sakazuki said he had to kill a traitor when Garp was going to kill him.
It would have been sweet to watch Garp and Whitebeard tag team Sakazuki.
I reread the Egghead arc and found some interesting details:
- York beeing the traitor was hinted at in chapter 1067, when Bonney warns Stella about his "greed" . Greed was also the reason he worked with the World Government in the first place, according to his conversation with Dragon on Ohara.
- All the theories regarding the similarities between Bonney and Jinny are listed when the Strawhats encounter S-Shark for the first time in chapter 1065 being
1. Child
2. Lookalike
3. Deaged version
4. Clone
of Jimbei.
So we can be sure Oda is two steps ahead of us. As always.
I am 100% expecting a you were my brother moment between Sakazuki and Dragon.😅
Maybe Sakazuki grew as a marine in the shadow of Dragon. Dragon was considered to be the son of the powerful Garp. He was extremeley talented and respected and Sakazuki always felt undermined by that.
Maybe Sakazuki is Naruto and Dragon is Sasuke. And Dragon left to join the revolutionaries, leaving Sakazuki frustrated and humiliated, which could explain the bitterness of Sakazuki towards Dragon.
I first thought the face tatoo is the embodiment of his determination. Now I wonder if you're right as it was given to him from someone he cared for or someone who did not get justice. He took it and wrapped it around his leg as to never forget. Then, something harsh happens where he took it from the cloth to his face so he can always remember and never waiver. I wonder if the cloth symbol is on Ohara somewhere.
I like the theory that Garp kicked Dragon in the face so hard it left an imprint for the rest of his life.
I just want to show genuine appreciation for the art of Niji as Numbah 2 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I’m glad someone else noticed it too 😂
i cant believe One Piece is taking sucha dark turn
thanks for putting your time and effort making this vid.
I think maybe Ginny was pregnant and that's why she was looking forward to seeing Kuma again. That would make Bonney about 13, which feels about right with the way she acts - sometimes older, sometimes younger.
I know I've said this a million times but it astounds me how we really are addressing almost every loose end remaining in the series in this one arc. I wouldn't be surprised if we end up getting a Sakazuki flashback soon
Yea dude. When the Raid was wrapping up, I was going through everything we had left to cover. Vegapunk, Kuma/Bonney, Dragon, God Valley, Elders, Greenbull was still a complete mystery, what happened to the Warlords after the Marines attacked, Elbaf, the Reverie mysteries, what Sword is, etc.....and literally every one of those is being covered. Wild.
I wonder if Luffy and Roger's dream/goal is to make Garp sing Bink's sake when fashioning chopsticks in his nose. That would have definitely given shivers to ace and laughter to Sabo..
Lmaoooo
Even before Dragon was revealed to be a former marine, I was convinced there's some backstory with him and Sakazuki. Dragon remains one of the most enigmatic characters..
The incident that happened in Egghead "shocked" the world as stated by the narrator is probably a wordplay from oda meaning that Kuma would probably "Ursa Shock" that island sacrificing himself to let luffy(Nika) and the strawhat escape to fulfill the destiny the buccaneers prophesied.
Wasn't it heavily implied in an SBS that Doflamingo committed the "R" word on Viola? I mean he was holding her country, people, and direct family members hostage in order to coerce her into working for him so any subsequent relations would also be coerced.
I think you brought up an excellent point about the Germa invasion. However, what if this is actually more of a cause and effect situation instead? The capture of Ginnie, motivates mobilization of big name Revolutionaries. The World Nobles request Germa 66 as response to losing a war of attrition months to a year later (travel time can be weird). This starts the story of Sanji perhaps?
I just can't stop laughing at the way Sakazuki thinks.^^
This did not age well
You know...Kuma being a priest/healer and kind-hearted certainly does at least partly explain the whole Pascifista moniker he's had since his proper introduction in Thriller Bark.
The fact that Akainu and Dragon have tattoos on their left sides and contrasting colors may indicate that they have a common past.
Kuma is on the spotlight , but can we appreciate what a Chad is Ivankov. I mean sure Bartholomew is 1rst Commander lvl, but Ivankov is definately up there on Doffys power. He almost had fun while in Marinefornt.
Ivankov is basically an honorary D at this point.
@@cartoonishidealism582 I don't know about that, but he definately carries a lot. Sanji like.
I hope Kuma taught Bonney about Nika as well, or she at least learned about him through Kuma's memories. It would be a fun interaction to see between her and Luffy.
I think that the reason the ope ope no mi had a 5 billion Berri bounty because that’s the way the gororsei became immortal, they would get a follower to eat it and use the perennial youth operation on them so that they would never die
Have you noticed that Jinney shares similarity with Vegapunk's female satellites: Atlas, Lilith and York? In this flashback Jinney shows her glutton aspect (connecting her to York), but also Atlas' violence and Lilith's monetary founds obsession with the old people of the Sorbet kingdom. If the "unexpected enemy" that kidnapped Jinney was Vegapunk himself or Borsalino/Sakazuki under his command to have a base to create his female clones, it would be very dark and twisted, expecially with York wanting to become a Celestial Dragon. In this chapter we also see Jinney with rifle basically identical to the one that York would use years later to shot and kill Shaka
Very likely
I have noticed the similarities between Jinney and Vegapunk's female satellites. It is possible that Vegapunk kidnapped Jinney in order to create clones of her. This would be a very dark and twisted turn of events, but it would be in line with Vegapunk's ruthless and unethical scientific experiments.
It is also interesting to note that Jinney is shown using a rifle that is identical to the one that York would use years later to kill Shaka. This could be a coincidence, or it could be a hint that Jinney is somehow connected to York's descent into madness.
Overall, the similarities between Jinney and Vegapunk's female satellites are very intriguing. It will be interesting to see if Oda reveals more about this connection in the future.
Here is a more creative response lol:
Jinney's connection to Vegapunk's female satellites is like a dark mirror. She reflects their strengths and weaknesses, but she also twists them into something sinister. Just as Atlas is strong and violent, Jinney is gluttonous and destructive. Just as Lilith is obsessed with money, Jinney is obsessed with power. And just as York wants to become a Celestial Dragon, Jinney wants to become a goddess.
Vegapunk's female satellites are a reflection of his own ambition and arrogance. He created them to be perfect, but they are all flawed in their own way. Jinney is the most flawed of all. She is the embodiment of Vegapunk's darkest desires.
It is fitting that Jinney is using the same rifle that York would use to kill Shaka. It is a symbol of the destruction that she will bring to the world. She is the ultimate weapon in Vegapunk's arsenal, and she will use it to destroy everything that stands in her way.
However, Jinney is also a victim. She was kidnapped by Vegapunk and forced to undergo inhumane experiments. She was turned into a weapon against her will. She is a tragic figure, but she is also a dangerous one.
@@SOLDAT_MENDES i dont think vegapunk has ever done "unethical" experiments lol, punk hazard was all ceasar
I agree, Vegapunk himself has never been shown to conduct unethical experiments. In fact, he has spoken out against Caesar's experiments and has even tried to stop them. However, he is still responsible for Caesar's actions, as he is the one who recruited him and gave him a platform to conduct his research.
Punk Hazard was a government-funded research facility, and Vegapunk was the head of the project. This means that he was ultimately responsible for everything that happened there, including Caesar's experiments.
While Vegapunk himself may not have conducted unethical experiments, he is still responsible for them. He is the one who created the environment that allowed Caesar to conduct his experiments, and he is the one who benefited from the results of those experiments.
It is important to note that Vegapunk is a complex character. He is a brilliant scientist who has made many contributions to the world, but he is also a flawed individual who has made mistakes. His actions on Punk Hazard are a reminder that even the best of us are capable of making bad decisions.
What do you think about Vegapunk's role in the Punk Hazard experiments?@@illuminoeye_gaming
@@illuminoeye_gamingall the experiments done on King and Kaido were Vegapunk's
In the unfortunate but very probable case of Kuma's death we are forced to wonder who will take his Devil Fruit.
With Dragon's bounty unknown this deep into the story, it might be more than just money, maybe a seat in the revery, or even becoming a celestial dragon, like York wants to.
Out of all the one piece channels this is the best. I love this guys voice . It’s so nice and calm .
Kumachi backstory made me cry more than ace death 😭
Dragon is a man with a BURN SCAR?! YES ... Kuzan also got the BURN SCAR from Sakazuki but that's just recently, I'm pretty sure that a man with a BURN SCAR is Dragon and just like Kuzan, he got the scar from Sakazuki as well ... Sakazuki hates Dragon and he hates Kuzan too because he left the navy and allied with Blackbeard pirates ... It's possible that these two (Kuzan and Dragon) left the navy because Sakazuki beat them and they felt there's no justice in the navy ... Just like what Doffy said in MARINEFORD that "Whoever the winner is the JUSTICE" ... Sakazuki, Kuzan, and Dragon are a CIRCLE
When Akainu said "Dragon's son" to Luffy in Marineford turns out it has a total deep meaning by that.
The r word theory was right 😭😭😭😭
Why is Bonney's old form was recognized as queen of Sorbet kingdom during reverie? I haven't seen any theories around that and I don't have much ideas. I hope everything will be answered in this flashback.
Kuma might have attended a reverie as king of the Sorbet kingdom. So Conney could have been a disquise of Bonney all along. I can imagine that Kuma would be a very (over)protective parent so no way he would let the WG know he has a child. Kuma's real mother is dead so it would be a decent disquise. I don't think the celestail dragons keep a record of the people they kill.
@@w.8372potentially, but I find it hard to believe the WG or the God’s Knights would have just let Kuma roam free if he ever went to the Reverie as a king.
@@bubbasgotback431 The WG could have forced Kuma to attend. Having Kuma collect money from the Sorbet citizens to go to the reverie could have been the first step in the plan to paint him as a tyrant.
So unreal to me that people's need for instant gratification has gotten so bad they can't enjoy a slower paced chapter giving backstory to an integral character before seeing the rest of God Valley.
Did you ever think no one ever knew that dragon was garp’s before sengoku exposed them at the war? If Dragon was a marine before he turned into a revolutionary, I’m pretty sure he wanted to make a name for himself and therefore did tell anyone he and Garp had relations
Kuma was likely named after the IRL Saint Bartholomew, who died by being skinned alive. I think his transformation into a cyborg is a reference to this: for his beliefs, he had to give up his skin
Luffy knew the vivre card with ace written on it getting into the hands of marines would have not ended so well. I mean marines and WG are really sneaky and creepy… I don’t think the warlords consented to have their DNA taken and especially not to being cloned 😂
10:30 i think its even less likely cuz it would go really dark and envolve the R word.
Ahh, it was all good just a week ago.
Oda, who hurt you?
i am so. So afraid to see how kuma became so cold and known as a tyrant seeing him be so kind early ob
10:17 that didn’t age well lol 😂
10:33, Oh boy
Keep up the great videos
If dragon does have a wind devil fruit he would be the perfect counter for sakazuki magma fruit. Magma is cooled to rock when exposed to cool air. So dragon can effectively lock him in a twister to cool off.
Amazing that out of them all, theory of Bonnie being part World Noble, r-word etc. got confirmed.
What if Kuma's memory never was erased and he is just recording the atrocities by the world nobles so he can later upload them into Vegapunk's version of the internet for everyone to see?
the people of the one piece world aren’t unaware of the horrors of celestial dragons
Hell in film red when saint charloss shows up in the dream world utas like “hey its a celestial dragon everyone hates them do you want to torture him audience?”
This backstory has propelled Kuma into my top 2 favorite characters
Damn right
Kumas always been the best shichibukai
I think oda purposely added those freckles on ginnie just so we don't call her bonnie 😭
To be fair Luffy not winking may be an intelligence thing... He's never in on the joke so he just blankly blinks, then later in the series he's too serious until gear 5 to blink at all.
Apriciate your content love The efort you put into your videos and i love it keep it up
10:17 aged worser than the marines Bonney fought
@13:48 that's a really uncomfortable scenario given that the Seraphim have wills/sentience but would be doomed to spend their lives taking on everyone's pain. they'd probably do it without complaint since they have some of Kuma's personality, but it still feels unpleasantly Omelas
Bonnie has to be a child, mainly because when the Strawhats found her in the orb of seawater headed to egghead she had no access to her powers and reverted to a childs body. also it explains when she used distorted future she got a buccaneer body.
Do you think dragons name is really his epithet as a potential admiral ? like how akainu is the red dog and kizaru is the yellow monkey they all have animals in the name
Yes
Yes, that's been my headcanon for the longest time as well
I always thought that Garp named him after the clan of D. they are originally from. Since they are from the east blue the clan would be Azure Dragon.
This might be a stretch but ever since they introduced Ginny, I thought it peculiar the resemblance she shares with Atlas.
If Kuma does take his kingdom's pain one last time... That is too much I can't.
On the note of those gloves, is it just me, or does it seem like Kuma would need a trash bag if he didn't want to put the Bonney in the Ginny?
How would he even fit😂
I wonder if Dragon was a Vice Admiral like his father Garp before he left to form his Revolutionary Army.
10:36 who’s gonna tell him?
Thanks for posting now I wokeup middle of the night now I get to fall asleep to some speculation 🙏
I think dragon is the one who introduces kuma to Vega punk because Ginny dies and dragon tells him he knows someone that might help kuma bring Ginny back to life, but kuma needs to give up his soul to the clone vegapunk created kinda like Frankenstein, hence showing how much kuma loved Ginny, becoming what he hates the most a lifeless no free will robot just to save the love of his life. And that’s what Bonnie saw in the memories.
😅 looking back at this, he did go that dark 😬
This video aged poorly about Ginny. Oda really did go that far :(
Also did anyone else notice the holy knights in bigmom's flashback
10:15 oda really said hold my beer
So.. The video aged well eh?
10:18 😬See you later everyone, The R-word indeed…
Love your videos. Good stuff.
Still wondering what typed of interferences the robot will play… (And a bit curious why it seems people have forgotten about it)
R word came true
10:17 ........
I think that Dragon might be the leader and founder of the SWORD. Everything is matching up, he's an ex-marine who seemingly betrayed the organization but still works for the greater good of regular people. If that's so than SWORD and revolutionary army will fight together against corrupt marines and celestial dragons at the end of the story.
Liam you should do ashowcase of not just your one piece swords but your entire one piece memorabilia collection! I bet he has some amazing swag
The more we get into the Kuma story the more I cry.
Stop crying
In a recent chapter, Garp said "my son joined the revolutionaries". The wording in Japanese might be different though.
Oda touched on the current world issues with that line drawn on who is worthy and who is not based on a line in sand. Also long time fans of One Piece enjoy lore chapters way more than action chapters
I know that's too far fetched but now that you mentioned about getting a hint on germa and sanji on that flashback I remembered that bonnie line of how sanji is awesome and how it never played out.... maybe it was just a hint?
Kuma is the only character in One Piece that has literally been everything.He has been a Revolutionary , a Pirate and a Marine , though the latter as a team with Kizaru and Sentomaru.
And a warlord
@@Nika_comparison Yeah well a Shichibukai is a pirate , i thought it covered for the pirate part.
Kuma was one of my favourite characters even before this, and now he may seriously send himself on a vacation in my Top 3 :D C3
These vids are so good
that's exactly how it went down, " Bad man for confusing me"