Ok let’s clarify some things. Kia isn’t tuned, it’s 100% stock, engine, tranny, it does have a muffler just for sound and some cosmetic changes. Engine is stock like the day is bright.
Sam, I own a 2018 GT2 RWD and yes it’s fast. But I’m not going to walk a G70 with a similar setup. The posted specs were 0-60 Stinger 4.7, G70 4.5. Granting different day different drivers, still not a walk. Still, I’m enjoying the channel, new find.
It doesn't have a muffler? So muffler delete? You say it just for sound, but if you remove mufflers , specially on a turbocharged car it will make a noticable difference in power with less back pressure . Plus for a turbo car a straight pipe no muffler is most ideal set up. With less back pressure the car could possible even be making a PSI or so more boost too. Other thing is, the KIA has aftermarket wheels. If you save 10+ lbs per wheel in unsprung weight, that also could cause these KIA wins.
Its also got lighter wheels which reduces unsprung mass, it is lowered which makes for better high-speed aero and you can clearly see the Stinger was using the e-brake launch technique. Do you honestly believe people who are into these types of cars wouldn't notice these things? Its like you lifting off the throttle against the Type S and claiming the 2nd race was closer. What a joke.
Was the g70 AWD as well? I just feel like the genesis should've been a bit faster with the weight difference if the stinger was stock. Something feels off here, great video regardless!
@@carter5377 Yup, aperantly both AWD. Like I said above, the slightest thing like lighter wheels on the KIA could cause such a difference and maybe even that it's lowered it might give it some advantage. The smallest things could make the biggest difference.
I would like to explain this race to everyone, having a 22 Genesis 3.3t myself. The Stinger may be "mostly stock" but yes, even just aftermarket wheels can make a noticeable difference. The 22' G70's rims weight nearly 35 lbs a piece, front AND rear (that's heavy). A good set of aftermarket forged wheels can weigh low 20s. I purchased 19" OZ Ultraturismos that weight about 26lbs a piece, so nearly 10 lbs a corner! The car feels much snappier on WOT. Because otherwise, the G70s weight advantage should make it pull ahead of the stinger 9/10 times, as you will see in other RUclips stock vs stock races.
I will say that yes, wheels do offer a small advantage but being both a genesis g70 (wife owns) and a kia stinger owner, the stinger definitely has better pick-up (especially top end). Driving both cars and racing both (for fun), the stinger has never lost. Her G70 is practically brand new too whereas my stinger has 30K miles.. both cars are stock and it has a lot to do with aerodynamics and weight placement. Both amazing cars but the stinger stands victorious between these 2 vehicles.
@@Jikel032 That’s awesome.. I’ve raced multiple G70s and 80s at the strip as well (stock vs stock) and i’ve always had them top end. There’s a lot that goes into play.. you have to make sure your lady knows how to launch off the line..
I LOVE how you guys do so many comparisons. Always ones that I actually like to see like this one. So many questions we have and you you're nailing them. Thanks for all your efforts and great choices!!!
It's stock it only has appearance mods on there like spoiler and diffusior Hyundai and Kia are the same cars anyway so I don't think it matters who wins
@@Yondaily It has some sort of exhaust work and it is lowered so it could have some impact on the outcome. Regardless a bone stock vs stock would remove all potential influence on the outcome. Like mentioned above cars of the same model year and approximate mileage would help too.
Every other comparison I’ve seen has the genesis as faster. Could be just a good stinger from the factory or a bad genesis. Or perhaps a small piggyback tune that wasn’t disclosed
No both have the same engine with the same HP and same transmission. The G70 is lighter too. The magic trick here is the aerodynamic kit on the Stinger
Don't you think a top end speed run for 10 minutes would be a more thorough test of engine manufacturing? I think the acceleration test is silly. It only proves one is slightly faster between stop lights. That has never been my criteria to purchase a car.
@@deeptriton if it's reliability they just buy a Toyota or Honda but that's not the reason why I buy cars I'm buy them because they're fun and I want excitement from them.
@@deeptriton How often do you typically spend at top speed? Now, how often do you accelerate from a stop? Drag racing is, and has been, a huge sport. The number of people running speed records at places like Bonneville are drawfed by probably half the people who visit their local dragstrips.
What are the exact mods on the stinger? Is it 100% stock under the hood , no intakes or exhaust ? If it had jb4 or tune I am sure the gap would have been worse but curious if this is really stock under the hood no bolt ons etc? Also I wonder if maybe it also has to do with a well broken in stinger versus a newish g70? My stinger feels pretty damn quick stock but I’ve driven a g70 (2019) and I remember it feeling more peppy and nimble but who knows.
Go for 2019 Or newer GT2 if you can lol, I love my 18. Only thing its missing from 19 and up is 360 camera, Heated rear seats and wireless charging. When i went to buy mine there was a 6k difference lol not worth it to me
So the thing is even lowering springs can effect acceleration heavily depending on spring rates. Even stock for stock without power adders that could make all the difference
Unless there's a hint of water on the road. 😳 I once almost lost a race from light to light to a AWD Kia Sorrento (I think it's the same name there as it is in Aus) because I just kept spinning up. While I loved the the car, I didn't love that it only came in RWD in Aus, and for that reason I don't have it anymore.
@@cdl34453 It is shocking at anything over 100k (60miles) I did expect it to just keep pulling, but it definitely didn't pull as hard as you'd expect. 😢
A tip for you guys. Don’t hold the brake / gas for too long. It won’t take off like you want it. My g80 likes break boost for about 2 seconds. I mash the gas pedal and right when I hear boost being built … I let it go and it goes like a rocket
Stinger is modded. The exhaust doesn’t have that crackle on the up shift without a mod and potentially an exhaust. Don’t believe me? Look at all the reviews on the new stinger. Doesn’t make that sound on the up shift. Even the new one with the variable valved exhaust.
@@CanadianMax lol that poor Type S carried all the hype but none of the heat. 5.2 second 0-60 and 13.5 would have been awesome for 2010. Disappointed in Acura. They’ve really just gone with the “good enough” approach since 09.
@@SamCarLegion If the transmission is the same, then its the same car straight line wise. Otherwise, you can do a lot with the same engine and a better transmission.
it has a muffler delete which isn't just a sound thing, it does give a little bit of a performance boost that you can see here. also has after market wheels which are lighter and also help. this isn't a true stock vs stock comparison
G70 not broken in all the way he never says anything about air intake……stingers just launch better then g70s……in the roll race u can see lighter g70 win……….
Bruh ur fake news comment got everyone thinkin stinger has a intake🤦🏻♂️ never says anything about a intake lol………you have a stinger too idk why u refuse to believe it’s not stock did u watch the race? It wouldn’t be close if not stock….
In such a close match, plenty of factors will play in. A car with 15-20k miles will actually be faster because of break in. Also the rest is going to come down to any specific mods and the reaction time of the drivers.
I checked out the Genesis,s the other day and they are nice, even the SUVs. I like the bigger G80 5 ltr. Plus it comes with TVs for all my grandkids lol
Odd to see, considering every review I've read says the G70 is equally as fast, if not a bit faster due to being lighter. I would love to see a driver swap as the G70 drivers loses on a handful of launches, costing the race from the very beginning.
Actually because of the weight of the stinger they gave it a slightly more HP I think like +3hp more than the g70 and also the stinger has a tiny bit longer of a transmission and sleeker body for a sportier look while the g70 tried to keep the same natural sport sedan image that most other brands have used such as Mazda.
Surprising to me. I'd assumed the 136 lb curb weight advantage of the G70 would give it an edge. The results may reflect tire differences, actual weight of drivers and fuel, or simply other differences in the two individual vehicles. Time the two on a tight track and I think the Genesis would come out ahead but I wouldn't put a sawbuck on that. Kudos to the Stinger.
@@rpmautoreviews9249 That would br very minor in the race..Maybe a half car length or so..Not as bad as the stinger smoked it...It's around 0.1 second per 100lbs in quarter mile or 0 to 60
Interesting how the same make, model and year cars can be so different from each other. On Throttle House their results were exact opposite. The G70 beat the Stinger everytime.
@@kimmeysam I agree. I had a 2013 genesis coupe 2.0t with exhaust and wheels at the time and I would pull my buddies stock 2014 2.0t by around 3-4 cars. They were spec’d exactly the same otherwise. Once I got tuned (stage 1 SFR tune) it was a murder scene and I put busses on him so I highly doubt the Kia is tuned.
Lighter wheels, lowering springs and exhaust do play a key in this race. For reference, the stock Stinger wheels are 19x8/8.5 and weigh 34-35lbs and I put on 20x10s and they are 24lbs each. 40lbs of unsprung weight loss is a good amount of weight loss.
@@HellzHonour Kia was not stock. We just dont know what work was done. Motor trend times g70 as faster.Lighter..same engine and transmission the race didn't make sense. 0 to 60 time faster too. He got smoked off the line. Huh?
Sam really hates Genesis. You can tell by his shitty racing of the G70. Slow starts, never in launch mode, loses to cars that are rated slower. It makes me f’ing cringe watching him race.
I'm buying a Stinger in a couple of years. Would be nice if they decided to go with a DCT. Have a feeling the next upgrade will be a digital dashboard.
This makes zero sense with the G70's 136lb weight advantage imo. The 2022 Stinger gained 3hp due to a different exhaust, but the G70 is still rated at 365 for 2022. The Stinger in the video appears to be a 2018-2021 model though, so that wouldn't apply. Maybe that Stinger isn't as stock as the owner says it is. 🤷♂️
@@TheRealCatof theyre both geared the same and both have not just AWD but the SAME AWD lol, the stinger is heavier and should be slower and that’s evident with 0-60 times for both cars from car magazines
A small of a difference of the Stinger with it's aftermarket wheels could be 10 lbs a wheel lighter than the 34-35 lb stock wheel. With 10 lbs of unsprung weight at each wheel could cause this little difference in the Kia being faster.
I modded my stinger gt and oh man it's on another level. I got the flowmaster cat back + ark downpipe, injen cold air intake, racechip, wagner intercooler and a dyno tune. Mine is putting out 455hp now. But gotta say the mpg on this car is horrible. Cost me roughly $180 a week on gas. But oh well you gotta pay to play
@@totalcarcaretowing5047 4.2 with michellin summer tire and catless. Going bigger turbo soon. Make sure you upgrade those brake pads because the stock one are shitty.
Myself and some friends have been speculating on the Stinger vs G70 when watching these videos, wondering if the G70 might have a more comfortable state of tune in the transmission and perhaps some different gearing that gives the Stinger some edge (despite being heavier)? I wonder if this Stinger would be a better fight against the M340i?
Someone said that the stinger has an intake which shouldn't make too much of a difference without a tune. Id say the kia just has a slightly more aggressive factory tune.
Stinger just launches better. It would still get killed by m340i lol. But yea just has better launches. But you can see the weight catch up to it in roll race.
Here is an interesting fact, I purchased a new 2020 stinger GT two all-wheel-drive. I bought it from Rusty Wallace it was his demo and It had 5000 miles on it. I bought a dragy and tested it. 0 to 60 in 4.29. There were no mods. I ran it on pump gas 93 octane every car is a little bit different even if you’re buying exact same car some are just stronger than others.
Geeky side note. At about 7:30-ish, the frames per second of the camera syncs up with some rotational velocity of the wheel spokes on the Genesis, and it looks like the wheels are not turning while the car continues to "skate" down the track.
@@AlienCreatureThing But it’s clearly lowered. It has different wheels. This is beyond “cosmetic.” I’m sure those changes lighten the car among other factors.
Just got a 2020 G70 3.3T RWD only 17K miles and it is plenty quick. I'll take it's comfort and style over the Stinger any day. It's a head turner people compliment regularly and has oodles of performance. Very impressed with it.
style sure, but comfort? never been in a g70 but seen alot of reviews saying that the g70 is a bit stiffer and has a more sportier feeling than the stinger due to its shorter wheelbase which also makes the drive sharper on corners with less body roll than the stinger, but the stinger has a more Grand Touring feeling making it more comfortable on long trips due to its longer wheelbase, other than that they're basically the same mechanically.
@@Mr505505 Never been in a Stinger and can't speak to it, but find our G70 quite comfortable. That said the seats in my 2016 F250 Lariat are much cushier...the G70 is a bit light on the foam packing
Wow, this literally suprised me. I mean other than both having the same engine, my money was on G70!(based on being lighter). Crap, I had betrayed my stinger community since I have 1(kneeling to the floor of shame)..🤣
Correct me if I’m wrong but it does sound like the stinger has Some mods done maybe downpipes and obviously you can see different rims much lighter I’m Guessing but still a really impressive race 💯🔥
Lightly modded Stinger vs Stock G70 isnt a really fair comparison. The Stinger has lighter wheels, lowering springs and an exhaust. Even untuned the exhaust does make a tiny difference.
Yep light weight wheel/tire combo (say, about 5lbs on each corner) makes a heck of a difference; something like 2 tenths in the quarter mile, which is roughly two car lengths.
Pretty well known in stock form that the RWD Stinger GT is quicker and faster than the AWD version. The 2019 and up has a factory limited slip rear differential. Try the AWD vs RWD Stinger race. The RWD doesn't have traction issues in near stock form. My 19 GT1 RWD just hooks and goes.
whats interesting is that the rwd stinger beats the awd one in the 1/4 mile (4.3 to 60 and a 12.55 1/4 stock as best figures vs a 4.35 to 60 and 12.63 1/4), interesting stuff. (figures mentioned are with 0.2 rollout.)
There is a video on this channel where a Q50 red sport absolutely obliterates a Stinger... He just showed a video where a G70 and a Q50 RS runs head-to-head... And now all of a sudden, this "stock" Stinger is faster than the G70?? What a joke
I believe that Stinger is modded! There’s no way the Stinger pulls like that on a car that weighs significantly less and has the same horsepower and torque as itself. Something fishy is going on here Lol
I watched that video and it didn’t obliterate it. The Q50 launched quite a bit before the Stinger did too. But I do agree I think this Stinger has mods. It doesn’t sound like my GT1 with the exhaust pooping like it did around the 5:43 mark.
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Ok let’s clarify some things. Kia isn’t tuned, it’s 100% stock, engine, tranny, it does have a muffler just for sound and some cosmetic changes. Engine is stock like the day is bright.
Sam, I own a 2018 GT2 RWD and yes it’s fast. But I’m not going to walk a G70 with a similar setup. The posted specs were 0-60 Stinger 4.7, G70 4.5. Granting different day different drivers, still not a walk. Still, I’m enjoying the channel, new find.
It doesn't have a muffler? So muffler delete? You say it just for sound, but if you remove mufflers , specially on a turbocharged car it will make a noticable difference in power with less back pressure . Plus for a turbo car a straight pipe no muffler is most ideal set up. With less back pressure the car could possible even be making a PSI or so more boost too.
Other thing is, the KIA has aftermarket wheels. If you save 10+ lbs per wheel in unsprung weight, that also could cause these KIA wins.
Its also got lighter wheels which reduces unsprung mass, it is lowered which makes for better high-speed aero and you can clearly see the Stinger was using the e-brake launch technique. Do you honestly believe people who are into these types of cars wouldn't notice these things? Its like you lifting off the throttle against the Type S and claiming the 2nd race was closer. What a joke.
Was the g70 AWD as well? I just feel like the genesis should've been a bit faster with the weight difference if the stinger was stock. Something feels off here, great video regardless!
@@carter5377 Yup, aperantly both AWD. Like I said above, the slightest thing like lighter wheels on the KIA could cause such a difference and maybe even that it's lowered it might give it some advantage. The smallest things could make the biggest difference.
The Genesis emphasizes more design and full driving experience where the Kia is more aggressive styling and sportiness.
That's better feedback than this review! thx!
Moving away from the race, Genesis's interior kicks the stingers a$$, but the sportsback design is what won me over.
Actually preferred the stinger's interior pre-facelift. There's no ambient lighting in the previous G70!
You can fit a new 65 inch tv in box in the back trunk.
@@FordPickUPRed woah really?
@@TB-yj4xg totally agree... Me too... The Stinger has a sportier interior...
That’s the one thing that almost got me to get the Genisis instead of the stinger besides the EXTRA 6k 😂
I would like to explain this race to everyone, having a 22 Genesis 3.3t myself. The Stinger may be "mostly stock" but yes, even just aftermarket wheels can make a noticeable difference. The 22' G70's rims weight nearly 35 lbs a piece, front AND rear (that's heavy). A good set of aftermarket forged wheels can weigh low 20s. I purchased 19" OZ Ultraturismos that weight about 26lbs a piece, so nearly 10 lbs a corner! The car feels much snappier on WOT. Because otherwise, the G70s weight advantage should make it pull ahead of the stinger 9/10 times, as you will see in other RUclips stock vs stock races.
Dude.. the Stinger has a curb weight of 4,023lbs.. the G70 is way lighter at 3774 lbs... The driver of the G70 is a moron..
I will say that yes, wheels do offer a small advantage but being both a genesis g70 (wife owns) and a kia stinger owner, the stinger definitely has better pick-up (especially top end). Driving both cars and racing both (for fun), the stinger has never lost. Her G70 is practically brand new too whereas my stinger has 30K miles.. both cars are stock and it has a lot to do with aerodynamics and weight placement. Both amazing cars but the stinger stands victorious between these 2 vehicles.
We've got both and see an edge with the G70. Transmission also seems slightly more aggressively tuned.
@@Jikel032 That’s awesome.. I’ve raced multiple G70s and 80s at the strip as well (stock vs stock) and i’ve always had them top end. There’s a lot that goes into play.. you have to make sure your lady knows how to launch off the line..
Just bought a '22 Stinger GT2...WE LOVE IT!
Envy u
I LOVE how you guys do so many comparisons. Always ones that I actually like to see like this one. So many questions we have and you you're nailing them. Thanks for all your efforts and great choices!!!
Excellent video Sam. If I didn't have a Stinger , I'd have a G70. Both brilliant cars but comes down to personal taste.
Redo with a different Stinger that is actually stock stock not almost stock.
If I was in Canada I’d run it be same outcome…….g70 is Brand new not even broken in.
Exactly
It's stock it only has appearance mods on there like spoiler and diffusior Hyundai and Kia are the same cars anyway so I don't think it matters who wins
@@Yondaily It has some sort of exhaust work and it is lowered so it could have some impact on the outcome. Regardless a bone stock vs stock would remove all potential influence on the outcome. Like mentioned above cars of the same model year and approximate mileage would help too.
I mean if the g70 was older wouldn’t you guys be using that as a reason the stinger won too?
Kia Stingers might have it's horse power underrated
Probably so, the G70 weighs less than a Stinger does and they have the same engine and it lost
Every other comparison I’ve seen has the genesis as faster. Could be just a good stinger from the factory or a bad genesis. Or perhaps a small piggyback tune that wasn’t disclosed
No both have the same engine with the same HP and same transmission. The G70 is lighter too. The magic trick here is the aerodynamic kit on the Stinger
@@BigDunker345 nah. Even if it's factory freak it'll not smoke the G70 like that. this the the aerodynamic kit on the stinger doing this.
The Stinger's GT transmission is probably tuned more aggressively from the factory.
You should have exchanged positions to make sure it's not driver reaction. I felt if you did you might get different results.
Don't you think a top end speed run for 10 minutes would be a more thorough test of engine manufacturing? I think the acceleration test is silly. It only proves one is slightly faster between stop lights. That has never been my criteria to purchase a car.
@@deeptriton if it's reliability they just buy a Toyota or Honda but that's not the reason why I buy cars I'm buy them because they're fun and I want excitement from them.
@@deeptriton How often do you typically spend at top speed? Now, how often do you accelerate from a stop? Drag racing is, and has been, a huge sport. The number of people running speed records at places like Bonneville are drawfed by probably half the people who visit their local dragstrips.
What are the exact mods on the stinger? Is it 100% stock under the hood , no intakes or exhaust ? If it had jb4 or tune I am sure the gap would have been worse but curious if this is really stock under the hood no bolt ons etc? Also I wonder if maybe it also has to do with a well broken in stinger versus a newish g70? My stinger feels pretty damn quick stock but I’ve driven a g70 (2019) and I remember it feeling more peppy and nimble but who knows.
These cars are beautiful n both these companies are kicking ass. I’ll be getting a Stinger tho at some point soon 🐝
They are pretty much the same company. Hyundai is majority owner of Kia.
Good choice
@@Marlon_J yup.. n they’re kickin ass. 👍
Do it
Go for 2019 Or newer GT2 if you can lol, I love my 18. Only thing its missing from 19 and up is 360 camera, Heated rear seats and wireless charging. When i went to buy mine there was a 6k difference lol not worth it to me
So the thing is even lowering springs can effect acceleration heavily depending on spring rates. Even stock for stock without power adders that could make all the difference
Yeah, spring rates effect traction. This is just basic car knowledge.
I knew they would be close but the Stinger surprised me when taking off really well from a dig.
That stinger is nice
The stinger from a roll is terrible it’s litterally just a dig car
Unless there's a hint of water on the road. 😳
I once almost lost a race from light to light to a AWD Kia Sorrento (I think it's the same name there as it is in Aus) because I just kept spinning up. While I loved the the car, I didn't love that it only came in RWD in Aus, and for that reason I don't have it anymore.
@@cdl34453 It is shocking at anything over 100k (60miles) I did expect it to just keep pulling, but it definitely didn't pull as hard as you'd expect. 😢
@@asum307 A rwd & fwd car would lose off the line to an awd car. Awd cars get better grip.
Definitely want to see some dyno runs next
Another very good upload!
Love it mannn keep em coming bro 🔥
Just a suggestion
Instead of showing the same races from different angles one at a time, how about putting them all together so it’s more cinematic
🧐🤔
Make sense his intros already start with a cinematic tone
Also, I don't get the shot from the cabin while race is going
And a stopwatch in the bottom corner
@@toddcaschette I agree, times would be nice
Do you all have a RUclips channel?
A tip for you guys. Don’t hold the brake / gas for too long. It won’t take off like you want it. My g80 likes break boost for about 2 seconds. I mash the gas pedal and right when I hear boost being built … I let it go and it goes like a rocket
Sam, your fan base is growing. Keep up the great work.
- a fellow Ontario-Canadian.
Stinger is modded. The exhaust doesn’t have that crackle on the up shift without a mod and potentially an exhaust. Don’t believe me? Look at all the reviews on the new stinger. Doesn’t make that sound on the up shift. Even the new one with the variable valved exhaust.
Exactly. Not an apples to apples comparison
This guy thinks we wont notice. Its like him lifting off the throttle against the Type S to give it a closer finish. What a joke
@@CanadianMax lol that poor Type S carried all the hype but none of the heat. 5.2 second 0-60 and 13.5 would have been awesome for 2010. Disappointed in Acura. They’ve really just gone with the “good enough” approach since 09.
The new g70 exhaust farts on upshift lol I would assume stingers does too.
@@Tsand4 you know what they say about assume...
how about drag race this stinger with the new refreshed model to see if that 3 hp increase makes a difference.
Great vid, man thanks 😊😁
Love these video's. 👍👍👍
I own both. Put a windbooster on accelerator pedal and they're both fast. Take the lag out of drive by line, but yes, they are pretty equal
Same engine but G70 is lighter and should win.
Well…
We will see
@@SamCarLegion If the transmission is the same, then its the same car straight line wise. Otherwise, you can do a lot with the same engine and a better transmission.
We will see. It may be close.
@@SamCarLegion If you were near Brooklyn New York I would let you run mine 😁 FBO and tune coming....huge Huge difference
Love the video could we you possibly arrange to have this same Stinger vs BMW M340i
One of my favorite channels
The aerodynamic from the Kia Stinger is more better.
Yeah that’s what I’m thinking about even GT is longer base
it has a muffler delete which isn't just a sound thing, it does give a little bit of a performance boost that you can see here. also has after market wheels which are lighter and also help. this isn't a true stock vs stock comparison
@@QwertySkill true and the aftermarket wheels definitely lighter
Your English is not more better.
@@JohnLee-db9zt lol really how old are you? 5?
That Stinger isn’t stock. If you replace the air intake you can’t call it stock still.
G70 not broken in all the way he never says anything about air intake……stingers just launch better then g70s……in the roll race u can see lighter g70 win……….
Won't do much at all without a tune
@@senorfreeze4662 no he didn’t say that
Wrong, the Audi s5 had the intake the grey stinger gt is stock in every video.
Bruh ur fake news comment got everyone thinkin stinger has a intake🤦🏻♂️ never says anything about a intake lol………you have a stinger too idk why u refuse to believe it’s not stock did u watch the race? It wouldn’t be close if not stock….
That was amazing 👌... really enjoyed . 👍🏻 hoping to get 1 with Toyota gr supra 3.0 😜
Sam please get a stinger up there with a jb4 and intakes and test it. It’s a night and day difference and then you can race a RS5 or 392 scat pack.
In such a close match, plenty of factors will play in. A car with 15-20k miles will actually be faster because of break in. Also the rest is going to come down to any specific mods and the reaction time of the drivers.
I checked out the Genesis,s the other day and they are nice, even the SUVs. I like the bigger G80 5 ltr. Plus it comes with TVs for all my grandkids lol
Do it. I bought a G80 Sport 2 months ago and love it.
Was this filmed in Ontario, Canada, specifically?
My guess is transmission tuning/gear ratios are different from the factory...would be interesting to compare those specs...
Great match, I'm guessing the aero dynamics had a big role playing on this one.
Yup. Because both have same engine and transmission (with G70 been a bit lighter too) so the Aero kit is what giving Stinger this massive advantage.
Odd to see, considering every review I've read says the G70 is equally as fast, if not a bit faster due to being lighter. I would love to see a driver swap as the G70 drivers loses on a handful of launches, costing the race from the very beginning.
Stock wheels are so heavy getting aftermarket wheels help alot
Actually because of the weight of the stinger they gave it a slightly more HP I think like +3hp more than the g70 and also the stinger has a tiny bit longer of a transmission and sleeker body for a sportier look while the g70 tried to keep the same natural sport sedan image that most other brands have used such as Mazda.
I'd love to know the gearing, tire size and wheel weights and it would be cool to see both cars in a wind tunnel.
I'm surprised by the Stinger. That car is really fast. 🔥
Surprising to me. I'd assumed the 136 lb curb weight advantage of the G70 would give it an edge. The results may reflect tire differences, actual weight of drivers and fuel, or simply other differences in the two individual vehicles. Time the two on a tight track and I think the Genesis would come out ahead but I wouldn't put a sawbuck on that. Kudos to the Stinger.
sure, one may of had half talk or less, other arrived more full,.. many variables could be in play
@@rpmautoreviews9249 That would br very minor in the race..Maybe a half car length or so..Not as bad as the stinger smoked it...It's around 0.1 second per 100lbs in quarter mile or 0 to 60
I really love the type s for the looks I think is a good looking car. But everytime I watch video with the stinger gt am liking it more and more.
It even looks better in person. That nardo grey one is 🔥🔥🔥
The stinger does so well on a stationary take off because the torque seriously kicks in at really low rpms, I believe 1900
1300
Aerodynamic. Stinger has more aerodynamic shape
As that other youtuber said, Stinger is literally the best car no one is buying
Which review is that ? I must have missed that one.
lol
@@bhaycraft ahahah i agree
Interesting how the same make, model and year cars can be so different from each other. On Throttle House their results were exact opposite. The G70 beat the Stinger everytime.
This stinger got catback exhaust and lighter wheels. Wheels make a big different if u own one of these car it’s a must do mod.
@@kimmeysam I agree. I had a 2013 genesis coupe 2.0t with exhaust and wheels at the time and I would pull my buddies stock 2014 2.0t by around 3-4 cars. They were spec’d exactly the same otherwise. Once I got tuned (stage 1 SFR tune) it was a murder scene and I put busses on him so I highly doubt the Kia is tuned.
Stinger might be slightly MOD! G70 is lighter and should of took it.
I’m thinking the same thing
Lighter wheels, lowering springs and exhaust do play a key in this race. For reference, the stock Stinger wheels are 19x8/8.5 and weigh 34-35lbs and I put on 20x10s and they are 24lbs each. 40lbs of unsprung weight loss is a good amount of weight loss.
Exactly
@@HellzHonour Kia was not stock. We just dont know what work was done. Motor trend times g70 as faster.Lighter..same engine and transmission the race didn't make sense. 0 to 60 time faster too. He got smoked off the line. Huh?
Sam really hates Genesis. You can tell by his shitty racing of the G70. Slow starts, never in launch mode, loses to cars that are rated slower. It makes me f’ing cringe watching him race.
Sam is the GOAT!!! You covered so many great races in so little time! Keep it up!
Sam car legion you are the drag race king!
He really isnt...
This race was so close it could've been anything. Driver, tires, even fuel unless they both filled up at the same station.
Is this all you guys test????
Do you know if that particular stinger is tuned in any way? Looks modded otherwise and most do a jb4 or so tune.
If it was it would’ve put like 2 cars on the g70 🤔
definitely not jb4 or this wouldn’t have been a race
Agree no jb4. If this car had a JB4, the stinger would have decimated the g70. JB4 is nearly 100hp gain
Interesting result. I expect that G70 would be slightly faster than Stinger even though I have the Stinger 3.3T AWD
Are we sure that stinger is stock? I love Stinger and have one but not making much sense
It wasn’t stock. Sam has said it has an air intake in previous videos.
Intake does nothing but make noise without a tune. If anything it can hurt performance with heat soak from sitting there waiting to race.
Suggestion for future videos, swap drivers. Do one normal race and then swap and do another, etc...
Are they both AWD?
You can't compare a stock vehicle vs. a modified one
What was the purpose of this?
Stinger only has a muffler delete if you check his pinned comment
I'm buying a Stinger in a couple of years. Would be nice if they decided to go with a DCT. Have a feeling the next upgrade will be a digital dashboard.
The 2022 stinger is supposed to be the last one.
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This makes zero sense with the G70's 136lb weight advantage imo. The 2022 Stinger gained 3hp due to a different exhaust, but the G70 is still rated at 365 for 2022. The Stinger in the video appears to be a 2018-2021 model though, so that wouldn't apply. Maybe that Stinger isn't as stock as the owner says it is. 🤷♂️
Stinger's transmission is more geared towards acceleration. Also, awd vs rwd
@@TheRealCatof
Ok, but he said both were awd at the beginning. I also think the 8spd transmissions are geared the same, but could be wrong.
@@TheRealCatof theyre both geared the same and both have not just AWD but the SAME AWD lol, the stinger is heavier and should be slower and that’s evident with 0-60 times for both cars from car magazines
A small of a difference of the Stinger with it's aftermarket wheels could be 10 lbs a wheel lighter than the 34-35 lb stock wheel. With 10 lbs of unsprung weight at each wheel could cause this little difference in the Kia being faster.
@@Boosted00
Great point. It definitely couldn't hurt it, that's for sure.
I modded my stinger gt and oh man it's on another level. I got the flowmaster cat back + ark downpipe, injen cold air intake, racechip, wagner intercooler and a dyno tune. Mine is putting out 455hp now. But gotta say the mpg on this car is horrible. Cost me roughly $180 a week on gas. But oh well you gotta pay to play
Dang that's a lot of mod👍
180 😂😂 Cha ching
@@raysal5149 TF is wrong with you??
@@LuanNguyen-np5ii nothing just playing around...
@@totalcarcaretowing5047 4.2 with michellin summer tire and catless. Going bigger turbo soon. Make sure you upgrade those brake pads because the stock one are shitty.
Myself and some friends have been speculating on the Stinger vs G70 when watching these videos, wondering if the G70 might have a more comfortable state of tune in the transmission and perhaps some different gearing that gives the Stinger some edge (despite being heavier)?
I wonder if this Stinger would be a better fight against the M340i?
Someone said that the stinger has an intake which shouldn't make too much of a difference without a tune. Id say the kia just has a slightly more aggressive factory tune.
@@martinvalencia6141 the stinger just launches better. It is stock no intake
Stinger just launches better. It would still get killed by m340i lol. But yea just has better launches. But you can see the weight catch up to it in roll race.
@@Tsand4 it was still pulling the g70 in some of the rolls. Definitely has a more aggressive tune from factory id say
@@martinvalencia6141 have to remember g70 is brand new not fully broken in. Stinger is fully broken in. After break in gain like .2 in the 1/4
Here is an interesting fact, I purchased a new 2020 stinger GT two all-wheel-drive. I bought it from Rusty Wallace it was his demo and It had 5000 miles on it. I bought a dragy and tested it. 0 to 60 in 4.29. There were no mods. I ran it on pump gas 93 octane every car is a little bit different even if you’re buying exact same car some are just stronger than others.
Do they sell the Stinger with the Genesis interior?
Can't wait!
Stinger is a bit heavier, don't know who will win.
Sam…can 6’4 people fit in the g 70?
Stinger, charger scat, type s, model 3
Which car to buy....
Adding dyno runs to these tests would be cool
I’d have to guess the g70 as I believe it’s lighter (current stinger owner)
I agree
The Genesis is 136 lbs lighter in curb weight.
The aftermarket aero makes a bigger difference than those 100lbs
Geeky side note. At about 7:30-ish, the frames per second of the camera syncs up with some rotational velocity of the wheel spokes on the Genesis, and it looks like the wheels are not turning while the car continues to "skate" down the track.
Thank you for raising that! It was freaking me out!!!
Were did the singer guy get his aesthetics for a car both cars looks great
The G70 has always been faster to than the Stinger by roughly 2/10ths of a second..... so the issue here must be a driver related issue.
A lot of people are saying the stinger is modded which it looks like it is.
Stinger looks modded. Not sure why Sam didn’t mention it. It’s lowered, probably lighter wheels, etc.
Sounds like Stinger is definitely modded out. Not a fair race. And not a good comparison video.
@@pmiahky he’s said in his other videos that it’s stock. It’s just has exterior customization. It has to be the driver/reaction
@@AlienCreatureThing But it’s clearly lowered. It has different wheels. This is beyond “cosmetic.” I’m sure those changes lighten the car among other factors.
Thank you Sam. Thank you.
Triple thanks here Sam.
Sam is the Man!
Great Drag Race Dude
What is the weight difference? 🤔
Any MODs on the StingerGT?
According to Google the highest trim (Awd) g70 is 3887lbs and the stinger gt highest trim (Awd) stinger gt is 4023lbs. So 136lbs.
I absolutely love my GT2 AWD
It's like waiting for a Dc Movie you don't know what too expect
You know exactly what to expect from those garbage cookie-cutter movies, everytime.
It is always the super hero that wins.
@@kirbyswarp I know exactly what to do when I want a kiss 😆. 💋
In that case the new Type S will loose to the stinger. That should be interesting to see 😁.
That’ll be a nice snack ;)
Lmfao the type s loses to everything, that ain’t even a question
@@gustavomarin6535 yeah disappointment i mean its not losing crazy in a real world traffic light to traffic light
That type S was having a hard time gapping my IS350...
It sould be an easy win for the stinger
I think the Type S owner was annoyed losing the last two races. I’ll be shocked if he comes back 😂😂
Most reviews stated that G70 is quicker. I don't know how he was winning since stinger weighs more. He was launching before Sam.
Are you using same octane gas?
Just got a 2020 G70 3.3T RWD only 17K miles and it is plenty quick. I'll take it's comfort and style over the Stinger any day. It's a head turner people compliment regularly and has oodles of performance. Very impressed with it.
that’s awesome I was thinking about getting one next year how much did you pay if you don’t mind me asking.
@@toyshop98 34K + T, L. Not a great deal but we dig the car
style sure, but comfort? never been in a g70 but seen alot of reviews saying that the g70 is a bit stiffer and has a more sportier feeling than the stinger due to its shorter wheelbase which also makes the drive sharper on corners with less body roll than the stinger, but the stinger has a more Grand Touring feeling making it more comfortable on long trips due to its longer wheelbase, other than that they're basically the same mechanically.
@@Mr505505 Never been in a Stinger and can't speak to it, but find our G70 quite comfortable. That said the seats in my 2016 F250 Lariat are much cushier...the G70 is a bit light on the foam packing
So who has the better tires?
Was the genesis awd too?
Wow, this literally suprised me. I mean other than both having the same engine, my money was on G70!(based on being lighter). Crap, I had betrayed my stinger community since I have 1(kneeling to the floor of shame)..🤣
Actually the g70 is heavier. The 3.3 is about 150lb more than the maxed out stinger with all options.
You have been forgiven
@@singular9 oh, I didn't know that.Thanks for the info. I thought a fully loaded stinger are heavier🤔.
The stinger is heavier, the other person is misinformed.
It shouldnt because the Stinger is clearly not stock, the other stingers on this channel did not offer the same kind of performance
There's something suspicious about that Stinger...
EXACTLY!!!!!!!
I concur!
thanks bro
Please do GLI vs STI roll race
Correct me if I’m wrong but it does sound like the stinger has Some mods done maybe downpipes and obviously you can see different rims much lighter I’m
Guessing but still a really impressive race 💯🔥
Lightly modded Stinger vs Stock G70 isnt a really fair comparison. The Stinger has lighter wheels, lowering springs and an exhaust. Even untuned the exhaust does make a tiny difference.
This guy doesnt care about fair races, or perhaps he really thinks his viewers are all stupid
Yep light weight wheel/tire combo (say, about 5lbs on each corner) makes a heck of a difference; something like 2 tenths in the quarter mile, which is roughly two car lengths.
Pretty well known in stock form that the RWD Stinger GT is quicker and faster than the AWD version. The 2019 and up has a factory limited slip rear differential. Try the AWD vs RWD Stinger race. The RWD doesn't have traction issues in near stock form. My 19 GT1 RWD just hooks and goes.
Is stinger really stock? Lowering+wheel is not stock.
As somone who just bought the 2022 Stinger GT2 awd, this makes me glad I chose the Kia.
I think changing drivers between runs would be a better comparison...great video though.
I did not see AWD on the back of the Stinger? I think a RWD is faster than AWD?
whats interesting is that the rwd stinger beats the awd one in the 1/4 mile (4.3 to 60 and a 12.55 1/4 stock as best figures vs a 4.35 to 60 and 12.63 1/4), interesting stuff. (figures mentioned are with 0.2 rollout.)
Hell yeah go Stinger. I want to take mine to a track just to hit that 168 one good time.
Yeah that stinger is making more power. Sound like it has cat delete or something. I need rematch with S5 with completely stock Stinger lol
That would an interesting race
I would like to see the Infiniti Q50 3.7 versus Infiniti 3.0t none sport race
Is this Stinger an actual GT trim? Just asking since all of the different Stinger models hit 0-60 and quarter mile at different times.
It is a Canadian GT trim which is the GT2 trim in the US.
There is a video on this channel where a Q50 red sport absolutely obliterates a Stinger... He just showed a video where a G70 and a Q50 RS runs head-to-head... And now all of a sudden, this "stock" Stinger is faster than the G70?? What a joke
I believe that Stinger is modded! There’s no way the Stinger pulls like that on a car that weighs significantly less and has the same horsepower and torque as itself. Something fishy is going on here Lol
Infiniti's r very fast
I watched that video and it didn’t obliterate it. The Q50 launched quite a bit before the Stinger did too. But I do agree I think this Stinger has mods. It doesn’t sound like my GT1 with the exhaust pooping like it did around the 5:43 mark.