Miscellaneous Myths: Theseus and Pirithous
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- Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
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We all know who Theseus is? Awesome! And Hades? Cool!
What about Pirithous? No? Any takers?
See, that's not too surprising, because when you're only famous for the dumbest moment of your life you have a way of falling out of the history books unless you manage to produce some appropriately spectacular collateral damage.
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Hades: No one kidnaps my wife but ME.
Girrrlllll😂😂😂😂
And depending on the myth, alot of the kidnap ideas were hers anyway
@@clayxros576 How Kinky.
And my brother
kabob 007 Shut up, Jared Kleinman
Hades is basically a beauracrat who does his job as best he can whilst the rest of the Greek Gods were a soap opera :p
Hades is certainly the "Black Sheep" of his family.
Comes with a mahogany desk.
Steven Cross 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🥰
His Underworld life may be strictly business, but do not be fooled his love life is just as drama heavy as the rest. Both when they first met, and whenever Persephone interfered with Hades’ job
Technically Hades is still kicking since when the end of the world is triggered he just continues to chill in the underworld once the fireworks are over.
I headcanon that when Asclepius met with Hades, Hades said “If you wonder why you died, I asked Zeus to make you stop stealing my subjects. I thought that he’ll just talk to you, but he just set you on fire. I’m so sorry about that.”
Philip Youtsos Considering Asclepius is later resurrected as a god of healing (but has to promise to NEVER bring back the dead again in return), that wouldn’t surprise me.
I think the 3 Fates where mad too said their threads got tangled
Don't understand why asclepius didn't just do the Jesus thing and become a lich or was his body to burnt for that to happen?
@@LittleMissRequiem Nowadays Asclepius is really pushing the envelope on that one.
@@ahmedamine24 bring back not resuscitate its different. You can't resuscitate sads, they dead.
All the other gods: *doing literally whatever and being as dramatic as possible*
Hades: professionals have standards.
I see you are a man of culture as well.
Hades:
-Be polite
-Be efficient
-Have a karmic punishment for everyone you meet
Bein' King of the Underworld's a good job mate.
@@CrashmoreElectricBlue it’s challenging work. Out of doors.
@@CrashmoreElectricBlue I'll be honest with you. My parents do not care for me.
y'all can d'aww over Hades and Persephone's relationship as much as you like.
For myself, as someone with severe seasonal allergies, I think the Greeks had it dead on accurate when they decided that the goddess of spring was also the queen of hell.
Persephone is also queen of the upper underworld which is basically like being alive
This is a beautifully hilarious comment.
YES
That comment made my night bro
@Keith Macy Didn't the Underworld also house the Dream World too. 'Cause I think the Gods of Sleep and Dreams were also chilling down there as well.
“hey let’s steal hades wife
*what could possibly go wrong* “
In a version of the mith, Pirithous, not being able to decide what of Zeus' daughters would suit him best, asked the oracle of Delphi for advice. The Oracle mocked him answering "why not Persephone? She's the most noble of Zeus' daughters." (obviously meaning that he was aiming really too high, since the queen of the underworld, wife of Zeus' brother, was clearly out of the reach of every mortal), but Pirithous took that for serious!
Now I'm just imagining Pirithous having Bubsy's voice. XD
Jam Deluxe
Hades @ piritus: COME AT ME BRO!!
*Cue Always Sunny in Philadelphia theme*
Let's steal Persephone he said.
*It'll be fun, he said*
There's also the story of how the "big three" - Zeus, Poseidon, and Hades - decided to divide the realms of the world. After the Titanomachy, the three worry that a new war will erupt between them as they fight over who will rule the Heavens. It was Hades, the oldest and wisest brother, who suggests that they instead draw lots and accept the outcome, and when he got the worst choice and was put in charge of the Underworld instead of the Heavens or the Seas Hades accepted his role with grace. A few interpretations of the myth hint that Hades chose the Underworld on purpose because he took pity on the dead and wished for them to have a place of their own rather than wandering the world as lost spirits forever. In most later depictions Hades is often praised as being a kind deity that stores all the seeds of the world in a great underground vault during winter so that they do not die in the cold, and releases them and gives them fertility in the spring when his wife Persephone returns to the surface. He does this because he felt guilty that his abduction of Persephone had plunged the world into an eternal winter, and feels he should take responsibility for the consequences of his actions. And speaking of Persephone, he treats her as best he can - allowing her to return to the living for several months every year despite her having eaten the foods of the underworld, and showering her with precious jewels and gems (his domain being deep beneath the earth and an enormous cavern, he is also the god of gemstones and precious metals).The only real complaint folks have towards him in the myths is that Hades is basically a stickler for bureaucracy, a bit boring and extremely methodical - he hardly ever budges on the rules of the underworld, takes his task of keeping the dead separate from the living extremely seriously, and avoids attending the parties and feasts that all the other gods go to.
So Hades and Persephone are the only sane gods in the rainbow of madness that are the Greek Deities?
*EDIT:* Hestia and Hephaestus, join the friggin' club...
Avalos Altair Miraos pretty much yeah
Avalos Altair Miraos And Hestia and somewhat Hephaestus and Athena. Those 5 are the best gods in my opinion.
pandemonium present I’m not sure about Athena, she cursed Arachne cause she beat her in weaving, and cursed Medusa for... being raped... Wise goddess she is
@@wooyeah1738 yeah Athena had a couple of dick moments tho
Hades and Persephone are the original Gomez and Morticia Addams. The OG goth powercouple. Mark my words.
Gomez und morticia are one of two realy wholesome relationships I found in modern media, the other are Tracys parents from Hairspray! . . . And and potentialy Aziraphel and Crowly from good omens. Who 3 healthy couples!
... There are no words, for how much you are appreciated, for pointing that out.
I AM FUCKING SCREAMING BECAUSE MY PARENTS HAVE MORTICIA AND GOMEZ SHIRTS AND I HAVE THEM AS MORTICIA AND GOMEZ IN MY CONTACTS AND AAAHHHHHHHRRRRRRRRGGG!!!!!!!
Nergal and Ereshkigal: EXCUSE US!?!
I don't normally ship couples but 0:14 is goddamn cute
I have no idea why, but I really love the way Hades and Persephone are drawn in these videos. Maybe it's the black outfits and the white hair? I don't know. Anyway, agreed, Hades deserves more credit for NOT being a jerk.
Laura Velazquez when I saw your name I first thought it said Leo Valdez
Look it up
I agree... Hades also looks like Lotor in Voltron (Netflix).
Somebody agrees with me on how i like the way they are drawn.
He did nothing wrong...Kid Icarus uprising and Disney Herecles (Sorry about my spelling!)...
PEOPLE! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?! HE DID NOTHING WRONG! My god...
People need to give him more credit! What did he *EVER* do to you?
@@alyssaburda2090 God of the underworld and death (in some cases), they don't like death. That and Christianity kinda compared him to Lucifer/the devil. Really, only bright side from the evil bastard Hades is both KIU and Hercules had him be extremely funny and likable despite being evil.
The people being tortured in the underworld by Hades, well, they kinda deserved it. Wondering if they will do the other 2 myths about the mortals on Tartarus.
Also, think this was on Tvtropes, but one version of this myth was apparently ASKING Hades if they could marry Persephone.
There was a reason hades was generally so chill. It's because of his position as king of the underworld. Baring divine intervention from Zeus... sooner or later your mortal-doomed-to-die self would wind up on his doorstep and Hades had a good memory. and many imaginative punishments. Remember, Zeus and other gods could only really torment or kill you. Hade got yo ass for eternity.
BigTuk so he’s patient. ANOTHER good quality
oof
He's so patient and honest, even when after Zeus' consorts were murdered by Hera
and come complaining all night about how unfair it is to Hades & Persephone
"Divine intervention from Zeus"
You mean Zeus producing about 90% of all demi-gods who became gods/immortal?
Go ahead brother and kill him... Its my turn.
Who else is rewatching this after the Hades and Persephone video went up, and thinks it’s probably a good thing Pirithous met Hades INSTEAD of “Dread Persephone”.
Seeing as Dread Persephone once attempted to send Aphrodite a box of actual murder and Hades is consistently the most chill greek god...
Yeah.
@@Attaxalotl link please?
@@anarchomando7707 It's another one of the videos by this channel, I think the one about Eros and Psyche?
Honestly, I can’t picture Persephone being kidnapped.
Sure, Hades did it, but he was a powerful god. A mortal attempting it would be like a five year old seriously trying to abduct a grown man. They ain’t going anywhere.
@@BlackCover95 Trying to abduct a grown man with an assault rifle.
Ever get the feeling that Hades just looks at his nephew's running around causing havoc and his family being as disfunctional as a sack full of cats in a windtunnel and thinks "not my monkey's, not my circus." I think he dodged a bullet when he got the underworld. Also Persephone and Hades reading together is so wholesome I might die.
And they'll be waiting when you do.
There is a reason why he stays in the underworld and never gets involved with Olympus and I’m assuming that’s why Persephone married him as well not just because she loves him because he’s a very loving husband and just to be a queen but they get away from all the drama down there it’s just her him and their big puppy dog
well if you DO die, then you're lucky to meet them in person
wholesome overload.
@@sadwasdead5065 when you die not if you die (Do not forget we are all mortal.)
Greek problems:
5 percent : actual problems like natural disasters
5 percent: someone picked a fight with a god
10 percent : someone was prettier than Aphrodite
80 percent :
Zeus couldn’t keep it in his pants
50 percent:aphrodite is making ship wars all over the goddamn place
that 80% is actually 50% Zeus 20% Poseidon 10% Apollo
But natural disasters were gods's fault anyway
@@apenasmaisumdiogo.7115 to be fair, natural disasters are actually part of the job of some of them, so sometimes its not like they are doing it just for the laughs or because they ar ebeing assholes... sometimes.
@@unkindled6410 sometimes being the operative wird here
Hades literally named him Spot...I’m gonna go scream
Just found out from another comment that another translation for it is cloud. So he also called him Fluffy, hence why the three headed dog in Harry Potter is named Fluffy.
@@joannavelez5179 so, we either have a giant as fuck, and speckled as all get out three headed hell hound, or we have Clifford the Three headed Dog that is also 80% shag.
I am entirely fine with this.
@@stephenflint3640 either way hades is a huge dork.
@@zenzonerzz4789 but a trustworthy, likable, and all around great, grade A dork.
@@stephenflint3640 He may be the ruler of the underworld (I'd like to believe its against his will when him, Poseidon, and Zeus drew lots on who gets what), but he is an overall nice dude.
I'm sorry, but I will never be able to take Cerberus seriously ever again now that I know his name translates to "Spot".
Doggo is doggo
Now, i see Cerberus like a dalmatian, and I feel so sorry about it XDD
@@Feu_Ghost that has sent me
@@Feu_Ghost I am wondering how old that breed is now because the Dalmatia region in the Balkans is not particularly far from Greece...
“Fluffy the Terrible.”
The moment when Hades and Persephone are reading books while Persephone is resting her legs on his almost made me cry.
Their just so cute-
Nice name
Red is the biggest "hades x persephone " shipper in the world, and she doesn't even try to hide it.
@@N.I.A23 It's been a good ship for 3k years, why break it up now?
....I thought they were supposed to be mobile phones
So basically, Theseus and Pirithous are basically the Greek God versions of Logan and Jake Paul?
Greek "heroes"(more like douches)
Seems legit
🤣
Ya pretty much
JulieYaka Made my day 😂
EDIT/NOTE: While the following version of events might not be entirely unprecedented from the ancient sources, I was underinformed on the subject when I initially made this comment, I recommend to anyone reading this that they go watch OSP's other video Hades and Persephone, as it has more research behind it and covers what I said here years ago.
There's one interesting thing about Persephone's kidnapping... the successful one that is. In some of the older versions Hades tried courting her in a more traditional manner, but Demeter stops him at every turn, so he goes, again the legit route at the time, to her father, Zeus, for help. Together they come up with the kidnapping plan, in some versions Zeus even took input from his daughter. Overall, the point remains, Hades is the one god in the Greek myths who didn't habitually act like a dick or a three year old.
and loved his wife and cares about her the most
Is that the same version where Hecate leads Demeter about the world by the light of her torch....and goes everywhere BUT the underworld? Where Hades and Persephone have every single accruement possible hanging off the doorframe, from socks and sandals, to hats and ties?
I’m highly amused at the mental image of Persephone being completely down with this kidnapping plan and giving them ideas. I’m now picturing her teasing hades the whole time as he carries her away.
Well him and i think like xanathos....
Hades is the brother of Zeus
Not his son
"So Theseus, I've heard you kidnapped a child to make her your wife. Why don't you have a seat over there? FOREVER."
Theseus: No see, it was okay because I was going to wait until she was old enough!
Hades: THAT IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF OKAY!
Thing is, he does eventually let Theseus go. specifically, he allows Hercules to rescue him. By then Helen had already been recued and returned home, and he doesn't make another attempt on her.
His brother? Not so much. When herc reaches out to help Pirithous the ground quakes- evidence of Hades displeasure- and Hercules decides that maybe it's better to leave him behind.
@@AsaelTheBeast but the asscheecks stayed. Forever
"and your brother wait what's his name again?? pirithose? pirithouse? pirithous thanks random skeleton, you wanted to steal MY wife?"
@@Smashboi76
Hades: "You can take that one back, but his ass is mine."
Heracles: "Wait, how..."
Hades: "Just take him off the chair."
(Flesh tearing sounds mixed with Theseus screaming)
Heracles: "Oh now I get it."
One day, Persephone was crying as she was petting Cerberus.
Hades asked, "What's wrong, hon?"
Persephone responded, "I don't have enough hands to pet with!"
That’s wholesome
@@queenkaterose indeed
That is cute
The version I heard, she’d had too much wine and that was what set off the waterworks.
I already fixed that, I just grow a third arm out of sone sort of plant and give Hades an heart attack
You forgot the best part! When Heracles rescues Theseus, he tries to pull him as he is stuck/fused to the chair. Heracles pulls so hard that his ass rips off. Theseus is free but his buttcheeks as well as Prithious remained in the underworld. He He would be jokingly known as Theseus the Assless for the rest of his life.
virgoboi24 Not sure if you found it yet or not, but that part is covered in her Heracles video.
A literal example of "Your ass belongs to me."
One way to become less of an ass 😜
Oh, if only he was less of an ass when he was rescued....he was still an ass after, coz I'm pretty sure the whole debacle with Ariadne was after this. And, of course, the whole chicanery with Hippolyta and then Medea.
I love this but please cite some sources because I want this to be true.
Also the Latin version of Cerberus, which is the same thing but in Latin, is used go describe clouds. So he either named him spot or fluffy. And now you know why the massive three headed dog beast in Harry potter is named fluffy.
TheMemester439 MIND BLOWN
you my good scholar have just made my freaking day
That is an interesting fact, thank you.
OHHHH MY GODS. THIS IS INCREDIBLE.
I didn’t know that hagrid knew Greek mythology
Loves his wife, keeps his promises, does his job. If that is not the perfect husband I don't know what is
Hades is unironically the best husband in all of Greek Mythology. Not that the bar is particularly high, but still. He’s a good person
@@pokeyscorpion8224 The most tragic husband is Haephestus. Dude is like the Hunchback of Notre Dame, but if he was underground and Esmerelda cheated on him... constantly.
@@thebighurt2495 Agreed
He also has a dog named spot- what more could u want
@@thebighurt2495 didnt he try to rape athenea?
Hades: Oh, and Theseus, I have an old friend of yours that would like to say hi.
The Minotaur: 'cracking his knuckles...'
oh gods I'm dying of laughter🤣🤣🤣🤣
That would've been perfect!
The Minotaur: So... how's my sister doing these days?
Theseus: Uuuuuuuuhhhhhhhh...........
Minotaur “Hehe i’ve been waiting a long time for this.”
Start praying, Theseus.
You know what?
Almost every problem in Greek myth could have been avoided if the guys weren't egotistical brats.....
or if Zeus kept his pants on.
Or Poseidon, or nearly every other member of the Pantheon except, and including some women.
Also if the oracles were better at explaining the prophecies.
Perseus's whole story could have been avoided if the oracle was honest about Acrisius's death being anti-climatic and accidental.
That's the problem. The Ancient Greeks never wore pants and equated the wearing of pants with savagery. The gods could never be so barbaric as to wear pants, because they are ment to be idolized Greek values. Thus, Zeus had no pants to keep it in.
Well, he should have kept it in his toga then :P
Zeus doesn't have pants. He burned those a long time ago. They just kept getting in the way of his mission to bang existence itself.
He should've worn a belt then( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Hades: "OH hey guys thanks for stopping by! Have a seat!"
Pirithous: "haha sure."
Theseus: "Why not?"
Hades: "So... *I hEArD ThAt YOu tWo WeRE gOING To kIdnAP mY W i F e.* "
Pirithous and Theseus: "oH SHI-"
To be fair, Hades kidnapped her first.
@@henrygutierrez3243
But then Persephone fell in genuine love with Hades and they lived a happy life together. And Hades is a god, one of three strongest gods. Zeus goes around fucking anyone woman he sees, but no sane person would think it is ok to fuck Hera.
I wouldn't be surprised if Hades and Persephone legitimately eloped, and the whole "kidnapping" thing was a rumor spread by Zeus and Poseidon because they couldn't believe their introverted loner of a brother actually found someone who liked him back.
Satan:Hey nicer me!
Hades:who are you?
@@caesar9708
Uh ok but have you seen what hera does? Id be afriad to look at her funny because she probably send a snake bear after me!
And hera is discribed as more independent then persephone. So zeus wouldnt have to do shit hera would probably kill them herself.
Heracles: hey, you guys look like you could use some help
Theseus and Pirithous: PLEASE HELP!! EVERYTHING HURTS!!
Heracles: (frees Theseus and proceeds to try to free Pirithous)
Hades: this one STAYS
Heracles: (ponders how utterly PISSED the usually chill Hades has to be in order to want to keep this seemingly harmless dude) understood... uhm... can... can I borrow your dog for a while?
Hades: (thinks about it) ... OK, but don't let him piss on Demeter's crops, she kicked my ass last time and I still feel it
Heracles: sure, bye!
Theseus: sorry, dude, see ya!
Pirithous: How could this happen to me...
Hades : This one stays
Heracles : But...
Hades : Or I'm telling my wife why he's here
Pirithous : Leave me here dude, it's not worth it
Heracles: *slowly backs away from his livid uncle*
Pirithous: Heracles, help me!
Hades: I think you're forgetting one teeny tiny but ever so crucial little detail: I OWN YOU!
This is the only use of this quote that I will accept as accurate
Pirithous: Never mind.
@@ewankirby2602 what’s it originally from?
The Disney Hercules movie, which is cosmologically quite inaccurate to the Greek myths that it draws from, including making Hades a Satan analogue, and Hercules's main antagonist.
Still, the role was delightfully delivered by James Woods, including the line referenced.
@@LollipopKnight2 in that case, this might be his most in-character line in the movie
Another thing modern "Hades is the same as Satan" storytellers either forget or deliberately toss out is that HE WAS THE LITERAL GOD OF BLING. Since he was the God of the Underworld, he got dominion over everything that was found under the Earth. In other words, every single precious metal from gold to platinum and every precious stone from diamonds to opals fell under his domain. So he was seriously IN DA MONEY, IN DA MONEY. His castle was decked out in so much jewels and gold that Zeus was jealous and never liked visiting the place. In fact only pearls fell outside his domain as they were in Poseidon's realm. From what I've read Hades tricked Zeus into getting Lordship of the Underworld because of this very reason. So his armor there should have a lot more gold and jewels on it.
So Hades was rich, had a beautiful wife, and could have any great hero he wanted over for lunch for all eternity. Hardly sounds like Satan to me. So yeah those guys played by Ralph Fiennes, James Woods, and Steve Coogan in the recent movies who are soooo jealous of Zeus.............NOT HADES!!!
sounds like Heaven LOL. the Elysium Fields must have been spectacular!!
This is why I hate Hades in Hercules disney movie. They depict him as vain and jealous ridden flamboyant asshole. Disney don't even bother to add Persephone.
@@GigawingsVideo yeah
The Disney adaptation isn’t perfect but they do actually nail Heracles and Hades to a degree. If you watch the movie Hades keeps every promise he makes and always tells the truth while Heracles gets everything he wants at the end by lying and cheating Hades of the bargain he made. They didn’t get everything right but that about summed up most Greek heroes.
I like to think Hades didn't know that the Underworld was full of diamonds, treasures and all sorts of shiny things. Like, he would initially be ''the Underworld? THAT SUCKS!'', everyone made fun of him, he went down there and then he's surprised by all the riches he gained. Hades then goes ''AW FUCK YEAH, THIS AIN'T SO BAD! UP YOURS, ZEUS! KISS MY ASS, POSEIDEN!'' and just starts swimming in gold and diamonds like an Ancient Greek Uncle Scrooge.
"May as well get to know your future husband-in-law before kidnapping and marrying his wife"
I find that line far more humorous than I think I actually should.
Just the fact that there is an appropriate use for the word "husband-in-law" warrants a chuckle.
"oh! You came to kidnapp my wife... Please, take a site."
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David Frederick
Same
Marina Rosário: *seat*
Hades is so chill most of the time, which is why he and Persephone are my main deities. Hades is the chill "touch my wife or fuck up my work and you die" god, and Persephone is the protective "I'm a whole lot scarier than you could ever imagine, darling" goddess.
Haves: hey I’m a nice guy.
World: that not how history will remember you
In the Underworld, there is only one thing scarier than angering Lord Hades...
Angering his wife.
Now I'm just thinking of that one bit from Red's video on Krishna.
And your father's a wimp.
Perish. :D
@@DahnsHeart His Eldritch wife who is, "don't say her name, she might hear you," levels of scary.
@@John_Weiss So , what I'm hearing is that they're Gomez and Morticia, but gods.
There was also that time where Hade's ex-girlfriend Minthe said that she was going to get Hades back and bragged about how she was way prettier than Persephone and basically trash-talked her behind her back. What was Persephone's reaction to all of this?
She turned Minthe into a mint plant. Don't mess with the Queen of The Underworld if you know what's good for you.
Hell, it doesn't even seem to have been *persephone's* reaction. In Oppian's account, Demeter, who was clearly not happy about their arranged marriage, still got so offended at her son-in-law's ex loudly talking about how she was prettier that she stomped her into the earth and her *corpse* became the plant.
Didn't Persephone also place the plant near their palace as well, so that Minthe would be forced to see the two of them be all lovey dovey all the time too?
@@jetzul712 I think so, I don't really know 🤷🏻♀️
Remind dumb people to never pissed the king and the queen of the underworld, that's for sure!
How would a conversation between Persephone and Minthe look like?
I was in a mythology class and when we got to Hades, my classmate called out, singled him out as "the evil god" I impulsively corrected him saying:
1) Hades, as the oldest got cheated out of the Skies by Zeus.
2) You try being sunshine and rainbows when your commute is filled with dead souls that don't wanna be there
3) He's the King of the Underworld! If he let souls and mortals come and go as they please, people would lose respect for the gods. He kept balance and order.
4) Philosophically speaking, the Greeks didn't have good & evil as we see it today. Just purpose and the lack thereof. There was no "evil" god.
true, though eris is certainly is one of the closest.
because she is the literal goddess of strife and discord.
The closest thing Greek mythology has to a 100% evil villain would probably be Typhon: the son of Gaea and *freakin’ TARTARUS ITSELF*, whose sole purpose was to take down the Olympians and cause as much bloodshed and mayhem as possible in the process.
Echidna might also qualify, being Typhon’s mate and the two of them being the literal mother and father of all monsters...
...but then again, they DID end up producing Cerberus (a.k.a. Spot), so maybe they might not be all bad. 🤷♀️
i'm pretty sure Hades isn't the one spreading his seed all over Greece
Also he was the least dickish of the big three by far
Hestias the oldest she got eaten by kronus first
Okay, who else thinks that Hades would be an awesome guy to have as a friend, cause I could see me and Hades as bros for life.
Andrew Coffman yeah he would be an AWESOME friend
he might have a bit of a bad temper but you never know😈(expectation)👽(reality)
Well if you consider a friend someone who'd back stab you in your sleep, as you wake up chained to your bed, realizing that he sold you out to your wife despite saving his ass, along with the rest of your family then yes he would make an awesome friend.
Who needs to be friends with the cool kids in Olympas when you can be friends with this awesome outcast dude that named his dog Spot. I love this guy!
Andrew Coffman how about as bros in the afterlife? think about all the possible shenanigans you could get into!
From what I recall when reading this myth, when Heracles tried to free Pirithous the ENTIRE UNDERWORLD started shaking. Heracles took that as a sign to not push his luck and continue onward.
Turns out Pirithous was a load-bearing soul.
@@andrewjohnson6716 this comment is underrated and hilarious 😂
Proving Heracles was not just a muscle head. He knew how to read the room and not piss off the gods.
I love how in Greek times you could just “scoot down to the underworld”
Like “you know what, I’m gonna go hang with god for a bit. Byye guys, be back for dinner”
I miss those days
I honestly think the reason for that is because if you were related to a deity in someway, you would have a easier time finding the entrance to the Underworld and you could also leave aslong you werent dead or werent a scumbag.
I may be mistaken but i believe the only place that was forbideen to enter was Olympus, thou i wouldnt be suprise if you had to ask Hades permission to leave if you were alive since you entered his domain.
@@peterwhite6415 to sorta answer your question Cerberus' job was to keep people from leaving meaning you could walk in and Cerberus wouldn't care but you couldn't walk out. So Hades probably did have to give special permission to people who weren't dead in order to leave
I remember reading something about a trip to the Underworld is a metaphor for depression (Orpheus and Euridyce, Odysseus and Aeneas during low points in their respective journeys), but I could be wrong.
Really to leave it was either get permission from Hades or just get pass Cerberus but the latter was a risky manuver
Hades/Pluto is the only one of the Big Three that doesn't pick fights every other day and doesn't try to screw everything that moves. He's actually a pretty swell guy.
Hayley Bartek no no no no, Zeus also tries to screw tree spirits, trees can not move there fore Zeus also tries to screw things that can't move
Grand Admiral Thrawn everything with a pulse then?
Do trees have pulses?
The Spectral King Well they are sentient in this scenario
Yeah, if anything, he's kind of the counterpart of Hestia. Just kind of does his job (most of his conflict comes from residents of the underworld trying to leave/being taken, and Hades not allowing this), and rarely causes much trouble. He also has very few children mentioned in the myths, if any, so they don't get into much trouble either (if they even existed).
I love this perspective cuz I feel like Hades is always portrayed as an awful villain but he really wasn't that bad. Like Hades asked Zeus what t do about marrying Persephone so really he's the jerk. (Side Note: It's really frustrating when people paint Zeus as the good guy, like where do you see that? He's the worst)
True, true, and all too true. If you look up Greek Mythos, Zeus is an asshat.
JaykMoon33 Most of the gods were asshats. Hera? Made Zeus' kids suffer just because their dad was f*ckboy. Athena? Turned a lady into a spider because she was arrogant. (I get that Arachne was an asshole but Jesus Christ) Aphrodite? Started a little something called THE TROJAN WAR.
Mullerornis he's around dead people all the time. the guy should get his shits and giggles from somewhere to liven things up!
Also Athena turned Medusa into a gorgon because she lost her virginity with Poseidon but he kinda took it without her premission
I am pretty sure american modern culture does it to almost anyone, not just Hades. And not so sure the rest of the world give this god same treatment.
Man, just imagine mythology Hades meeting his more modern incarnations:
Hades (Kid Icarus Uprising): "And then I said "Down the hatch!" and ate Pitty Pat whole like a chicken nugget"
Hades (Disney): "Bet he didn't see that one coming, I remember telling ol Hercules that his girlfriend was gonna die and she was a consolation prize, to me!, best reality check I've ever given someone ever, before I fell into the River Of Death, but I went down swinging lemme tell you"
Hades (Mythology): "I seriously need to get a new job..."
Underrated
Hades (M): You two are a disgrace to the name of Hades! Give me one good reason why I shouldn't throw you into Tartarus myself!
Hades (D): ...we're humorous villain characters with a lot of fan love?
Hades (M): *sigh* Get out of my palace...
Hades (KI): Man, what a stick in the mud. *leaves*
Hades (M): I am not! *goes over to throne where Cerberus sits down at his feet, where he pets the doggo's back* No one ever understands me, Cerby...
And what about Hades from the Supergiant game?
Hades from Lore Olympus?
@@blessiemasancay4818 Hades from Punderworld?
I feel like Athena and Artemis would totally visit the underworld strictly so they could film a soap opera style podcast about all the other Olympian's shenanigans with Hades and Persephone
Now I'm just imagining Athena and Artemis having book club with Persphone in the underworld where they talk books and gossip about the shit the gods are doing, then Hades comes in with snacks he baked himself.
@@JennyBlaze253 that sounds super adorable and I want to see that kinda scene drawn XD
@@JennyBlaze253 i NEED THIS
Athena would do that honestly, but Artemis is not really willing to trust any male that isn't her brother which is weird considering all the shit he gets up to
@@CodeRed99911 I mean in a few stories she didn't mind Orion (there's like 3 different versions, lovers, pals, and enemies. So 2 outa 3 where she doesn't want to smite him on the spot) so it's not unreasonable she could at least tolerate Hades in this scenario
Funny thing about Hades, you know how Athenians liked to claim Athena as their patron deity and Rome had ancestral gods in Mars and Venus? Well apparently Hades is the ancestor of the Gauls, who are the ancestors of the French.
I'm on to your tricks France.
Weren`t the Thracian Hades descendants?
wait the french are technicly decendents of lord Hades?
WHOOO!!! WEIRD FRENCH DEATH-CULTS FOR DA WIN!
in all seriousness that does not surprise me in all honesty.
Ocean Wayve Notre secret, decouvert , que ferons nous?
+Daryo Ouellette
In a sense, yes. Julius Caesar, in VI:18 of his _Commentaries on the Gallic Wars,_ stated that the Gauls all claimed descent from the Roman god *Dīs Pater* who in this case, was being equated with some Gaulish deity that was associated with riches.
* The Romans identified Hades with Dīs Pater.
I like Hades. He is, uncharacteristically to the other greek gods, a straight to the point kinda guy.
Well. Death is generally known for being pretty no nonsense. Either you're dead or you're not. It fits his domain to be blunt.
@@drascin I mean technically he isn't the god of death, just the god of where dead people go, and he only has that position because he drew the short straw. Unlike just about every other greek god, from my memory he has no documented acts of wrath, probably because he has to deal with the people he kills after they die. He also doesn't do any hanky panky with mortals and other gods, he just does his job quietly and without complaint, making sure the dead stay dead and in the underworld where they belong.
@@johnmcauliffe8824 I think some of that comes from people's fear of him, in the stories we do have generally it's about what happens if you piss hades off and how screwed you are
@@drascin I mean, if you’ve seen Thanatos, the god of death, he has like practically no chill
@@astoroidea6502 He either has all the chill or none of it
“Friends don’t let friends kidnap goddesses.”
I want that on a mug.
Hey OSP get on that
Imagine if Hades had gotten to rule the Heavens like he was supposed to, Greece would’ve probably been much more at peace with him in charge.
"Why are the dead coming back to life AGAIN ?!
-Zeus probably left his job to rape some chick"
I really don't think it would have been better... Hades took a bullet for the team here
@@DahnsHeart Yeah, and Hades probably realized that it was for the best that things went as they did
If Hades was the ruler of gods maybe would supervise Zeus's job... but to be honest, I'd rather Hades stay in the underworld, maybe if he didn't he couldn't marry Persefone
@@valerianicolegonzaleschoqu7810 I feel like he’d be able to do it more easily because he’d literally be the god of gods
@@lollivee6770 Meaning hades is gonna be supervizing Zeus as well, which leads to less naughties caused by Zeus, which leads to the possible outcome of Persephone never being born.
Orpheus looks at his wife. Hades “I GAVE YOU ONE JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
Hades did lay out the rules of the deal in plain sight with no loop-holes like other gods. If Orpheus had faith in Hades and kept his eyes forward he would have been reunited with his wife in the world of the living, but nope his curiosity and fear got to him and he just had to take a peek.
At last they both meet again in hades when he died
@@ecthelionalfa that was probably7 when hades told him he gave him one simple job with no tricks and he failed.
Maybe if he has tied something to her he wouldn''t have fucked up.
My son isn't that smart. He gets it from his dad.
I always liked to think of Hades as a reflection of death itself: cold-hearted, but ultimately a rational and fair god who doesn't show bias or favortism (with the possible exception of REALLY talented musicians).
Well in death does have a bias of visiting talented musicians way too early.
Logan Anderson and by visiting it also affects their deaths slowly and drastically dramatic too.
@Motor Nugget Art, the one thing human God and/or Death allows to stay immortal
So like the Discworld Grim Reaper?
Emilio Reyes heck even the devil approves this to be immortal.
Note:
Tartini’s Devil Trill Violin Sonata if I still remember.
"Pirithous has an even better idea. He wants to marry Persephone! Did I say better? I meant 'mind-bogglingly stupid'."
I don’t know exactly how accurate this is, but I think I remember reading about one version of the Hades and Persephone myth where Persephone straight up gives Hades advice on how to kidnap her _properly._ Like, Boy, if you wanna put a ring on this finger, you better show me your kidnapping A-Game!
No one:
Not even a single soul:
Persephone: if you're going to kidnap me ya gotta kidnap me in STYLE!
I mean he kidnapped her while riding a chariot, so technically she was kidnapped with style by greek standards.
It might have been some sort of eloping tradition 🤔
Well thats one way to get away from you overbearing mother
I had heard another version where Persephone found an entrance to the underworld and thought the place was pretty cool and Hades was just like, “Um… excuse me? Miss Goddess? How did you get in my house?” And she basically said, “This place is dope, I live here now.”
0:15
I love that that is what your image of a "remarkably functional" relationship is.
It's so charmingly accurate.
hey even tho this comment old it was letterly the most funcitional realation ship at least he's not zues or posiden
@@kingbigboi8773 hades is not evil he is just misunderstood greek myh teaches us something do not judge a book by its cover 😄
Hey, sooner or later Passion runs out, when it does it's up to Respect, Tolerance and Love to be the pillars of the relationship
@@sinnerthesinful552 right i mean where would the greek gods be without the adorable coulple if zeus and hera are the cosmic coulple and posidon and ampherite are the aquatic coulple than hades and persephone are the deadly coulple it all works out but than again that leaves the other coulples and sibblings like ares and aphrodite and apollo and his twin sister artemis so not everyone is a duo am i right
it's depicted as cute and happy being together
Hades and Persephone has an actual legit relationship/marriage, where neither cheated on each other. Meanwhile Hera, the goddess of marriage has the worse married life with Zeus... SERIOUSLY ZEUS KEEP IT IN YOUR PANTS S
The godess of marriage can't even keep her marriage stable
Okay, but what about the time Persephone had a child with Zeus?
@@adrielkatz Zeus tricked Persephone by disguising herself as Hades. He does that twice, and it's said she actually has three children, one with Hades and the two others with Zeus (one is debated to have been Dionysus' son instead, as Dionysus also tricked Perse.)
Hades cheats twice, by flirting with two nymphs. They both end up getting turned into plants
IIRC, the only times either came close to cheating were...
1. The two nymphs, at least one of whom being his ex, trying to seduce Hades. The thing is, THEY were trying to seduce HIM rather than the other way around and Persephone responded by turning them both into plants, 'cause no one touches her man but her.
2. Persephone with Adonis, but then, Hades was never mentioned in those myths beyond "she didn't marry Adonis 'cause she already had a husband". Personally, I assume Persephone and Hades "shared" Adonis, if you catch my drift...
@@s_k_y_l_l_e_t and don't forget SHE IS HIS DAUGHTER. THE F*** ZUES.
Headcanon: Cerberus was actually chill as hell when he didn't have to do his job which probably explains how Heracles managed to keep his ass restrained.
If you were coming in he was inclined to let you it was if you tried to leave that he'd get nasty
I agree. I recall hearing that one of the Titans, Coeus, eventually cracked and tried to escape, only for Cerberus to effortlessly nab him and take him back to Tartarus.
In a version I read, It was specifically mentioned that Heracles could borrow Cerberus as long as Cerberus wasn't harmed.
Heracles: "Hey Uncle Hades, can I take Cerberus out for walkies?"
Hades: "Oh yes, please do, he has been so antsy lately. Thank you."
Heracles: "Sweet, I will show him to my cousin, he is going to freak!"
Hercules - dog walker. Taking spot out for a walkies.
So hades has a loving marriage, punishes bad people and rewards good people, helps lovers reunite with dead girlfreinds/boyfreinds, is a dog lover and is a total badass. I think hades is the one god who's held up the best out of the entire pantheon.
I slightly argue with that as Hestia is in my opinion the nicest of the Greek gods but Hades is definitely a rather close contender. Eldest daughter and eldest son of Kronus and the most reasonable and mature of the siblings.
Prometheus also gets points for looking out for Humans, protecting and teaching us... right up until Olympus decided it was time for the Nice Titan to suffer.
@@thebighurt2495 Very true, he was a good egg. But he wasn't actually a god, an immortal who had immense power and was older than humanity as a titan but not actually a god. Important distinction. But you are right that he deserves such a mention.
@@brotherofastudio6310 titans are gods, just like the cthonian and primordials, it's just the name of their generation.
By our understanding of gods you would be right. But he is still the Titan of Forethought and not the god of Forethought. Though admittedly it is a small difference.@@Mathew-cj7yd
'NAH SON THAT ONE STAYS'
'Sounds good' XD
"Nah man.. Im pretty far from ok.." (Marcellus from Pulp Fiction)
0:16 - 0:20
Hades: Grandnephew stop stealing my subjects!
Asclepius: I’m healing them!
Hades: There’s nothing wrong with death!
Asclepius: Says you
Hades: Zeus please stop your grandson from stealing my subjects!
Zeus: Ok [sets him on fire]
Hades: I didn’t mean kill him!
Zeus: Well he can’t resurrect the dead if he’s dead.
Apollo: [bursts in] What happened to my son?!
Zeus: He was annoying your uncle.
Hades: Your father took the punishment way to far.
Apollo: Bring him back!
Hades: Will he stop stealing my subjects?
Apollo: He’s a grown man, he can do what he wants.
Hades: Then no.
[Apollo gets mad. And leaves in a huff]
I can see this being a Monty Python skit
@@aabattery4092 Really? That would be awesome!
@@alexiswelsh5821 Monty Python: Olympus.
I want this to happen.
The first half of what happens later is actually really sad if you look at it from apollo's point of view,see he had the WORST possible love life ever,and he only managed to have a few kids,which he was proud of and was a good father to(much unlike his father,zeus),and asclepius was one of them,when hades took notice that asclepius was resurrecting the dead,he informed zeus of it and told him to find a solution to it,zeus interpretated it as "let's set the guy on fire,¿what could go wrong?",apolo went berserk when he heard that his kid had died,since he couldn't hurt zeus directly or blame hades(because he knew his uncle didn't have the fault zeus was an idiot and misinterpretated his petition) apolo grabbed his bow and arrows and tried to kill all three cyclopses with them(like his sister,artemis,he's a really good archer),even though he failed zeus went berserk,he ripped apollo’s inmortality out of him,kicked him out of olympus and forced him to guard a group of cattle as a simple mortal shepherd
The second half is actually funny and satisfying,because apolo gets his revenge on zeus in an hilarious way(or at least how I imagine it),a while after he was eradicated from Olympus,his newborn half-brother hermes stole the cattle while appolo was distracted(that is why he’s also called the god of thieves),went he returned and saw that all his cattle had disappeared,apollo went desperate,tracked the baby down and went with him to Olympus(I would like to imagine they arrived at 3 am all like):
Apollo:¡DAD, THIS %$&!@!# BABY STOLE ALL MY CATTLE!(grabbing baby hermes by the hair)
Hermes:(putting a innocent face to make apollo look like an idiot)
Zeus:(shocked because he thought hermes was sleeping in Olympus)you know he’s just a baby right?¡and you are not allowed to come back here until I decide it!
Apollo:¡I KNOW!,BUT WHILE I WAS SEARCHING FOR WATER THIS BABY APPEARED AND STOLE IT ALL!
Zeus(sniggering uncontrollably)you half -brother outclassed you?(claps his hands to his mouth)
Apollo:IT’S NOT FUNNY!,WAIT(plan to revenge on zeus forming in his mind)HIS MY …
(artemis,Athena,maia,hera and leto open the door of their dormitories and start yawning)
Athena:¡we are trying to sleep here!
Hera:zeus,could you explain what’s with all the shouting so early?
Zeus(now panicking,because hera doesn’t know anything about him and maia having hermes):NOTHING DARLING!(nervous laughter)go back to sleep!
Artemis:(already grabbing her bow and arrows)nah,early bird catches the worm,or in my case the hunter gets the bull(notices apollo)hi bro!,long time no see!
Apollo:(smiling broadly,he hadn’t seen his sister in a while):hi sis!(saluting her with his free hand)
Leto:(surprised)apollo!,you are back!,how are you!
Apollo(now even more happy):hi mum!
Artemis:fancy going to hunt?
Apollo:(smirking as he puts step one of his plan in action):sorry,I have SOMETHING to fix here with dad
(hephaestus,ares,afrodite,Demeter,Poseidon and hestea wake up and watch the fight,even hades and persephone emerged from the underworld to check it out)
Athena:(confused about Apollo brandishing a baby to zeus’s face)what’s with the baby?
Maia(claps her hands to her mouth,looking nervously from hermes,to hera and then to zeus)
Apolo(looks at maia’s reaction and guesses that she’s the mother of hermes)
Hera(now suspicious of zeus):why are you loking at me so scared
Zeus(now sweating in fright):nnnnnothing d-dear
Apollo(now putting step two of his plan in action):well that my dad let ,slip(looking at zeus frightened expression and smirking more),that this baby is his newborn son with maia,hermes
Hera:(supremely furious)ZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!
Zeus:(running in the opposite direction)better run for it
Apollo,artemis,Athena,Hephaestus,ares,afrodite,Poseidon,Demeter,hades and persephone :litteraly laughing their heads off at the sight of hera chucking every available weapon,furniture or some of her powers at zeus,who is running like crazy
Maia(with baby hermes on her arms):he deserved it
@@AnaLucia-po6ns Apollo: That's what you get for killing my son!
I just love how Hades is *literally* the only competent god of the greek pantheon and a dorky cinnamon roll all at the same time.
You forgot Hestia, but I forgive you.
@@isaachepworth7860 True, she is quite competent and chill
Hades: so this guy has been stealing my subjects could you deal with him?
Zeus: I set him on fire
Hades: you did what?
Zeus: he is ashes
1:48 It's so funny how Persephone is casually just petting Kerberos (AKA Spot) when Hades walks in after unleashing his wrath upon the two idiots who thought it was a great
idea to steal his wife and marry her.
I would do the same thing! If it doesn’t bite my freakin hand off first
Dustin Luu I
Pirithous "I'm gonna marry Persephone!"
And then I had to pause the video while I laughed.
Joel Wojkiewicz same
In a version of the mith, Pirithous, not being able to decide what of Zeus' daughters would suit him best, asked the oracle of Delphi for advice. The Oracle mocked him answering "why not Persephone? She's the most noble of Zeus' daughters." (meaning that he was aiming really too high, since the queen of the underworld, wife of Zeus' brother, was clearly out of the reach of every mortal), but Pirithous took that for serious!
@@neutronalchemist3241 I'll bet even she couldn't forsee him being THAT stupid! XD
@@cartooncritique6625 I'm just imagining if any greek heroes were asexual...i guess not?
@@mellowdie-deranged I think a few might have been celibate, but asexuality wasn't really a thing in Ancient Greece from what I've heard.
Another evidence of Hades being a chill guy is that he simply lend his dog Cerberus to Hercules when Hercules was supposed to "capture" the dog as part of his labors...
Although for some reason in some myths heracles shoots hades with an arrow.
That's also what Artemis did with her deer, and she's not really a chill goddess ^^
I think it was more like everyone was pitying Herakles for being the victim of Hera. I mean, he already killed his wife and sons because of her, let him live XD
@@matthewmac5787 Apparently Heracles had a grudge against the king of Pylos and attacked the kingdom with the support of Athena and Zeus. Hades, depending on the version, was either one of the gods who opposed Heracles’ attack on Pylos (the others being Ares, Hera, and Poseidon) or was simply collecting the dead souls from the battle as usual. Either way, Heracles ends up shooting Hades in the shoulder, requiring Hades to go to Olympus for treatment.
He needed someone to take the dog out for walkies.
The dog wants walksies.
Hades and Persephone cuddling on the throne is adorable. That's my life's aspiration right there.
Red, please hear our cries, deliver unto us a Hades and Persephone story 😁?! We need more of the awesome blue dork man, his beautiful queenly wife, and their dog Spot 😊😊!
Agreed
Agreed as hell
Agreed
Hell yeah😁
i have a webcomic that might interest you, its called Lore Olympus, and its about Hades and Persephone.
Hades protecc
Hades attacc
But most importantly
He just want someone to love him bacc
You know who does? Everyone in the O.S.P fandom.
@@virginiarailfannoah5415 well atleast he's got alot of people to love him back
@BlueBerryFairy1 Let's not forget however how Persephone reacted to the whole Minthe case, she turned her into a mint plant a crushed her
Awww wholesome
@@arontuske9348 could have been worse.
Remember Hera?
In punderworld, this myth is retold in the funniest way: Persephone grabs the two idiots that plan on nabbing her and suggests to Hades to throw them to Tartarus. Hades, being a pretty cool guy, elects to punish them in a far more elegant way.
Through bureaucracy.
Look it up. Artist and writer is Linda Sejic. She’s hilarious
Thank you... I most certainly will
hah, he kafkaed them. Exquisite.
1:08 And not to mention that “legal banging age” was around 14-15.
I’ve heard somewhere that it was 12, but that was in the context of pederasty, so I’m not sure
Cronus’s subtle revenge against Zeus (get it he’s the Titian of time)
*Retches*
In Italy It Is like that but on certan restrition
1:26 "a *Slightly* livid hades" oh that aint just angry, this is, ADVANCED angry
That's what we call cold rage. If someone has cold rage....you're probably already dead. And guess who they pissed off. The guy that oversees the dead.
Good luck
@@clayxros576
That is the worse kind, because their still able to think logically with no problem.
@@Enchie pissing off Persephone would be worst
@@isdrakon9802 If you succeed in pissing her off, you deserve it
Lucifer: 'See I'd go with the snakes too but I wouldn't use them as literally as that.'
I LOVE Red's characterisation of Lucifer. He's amazing. I like Hades too.
Red's Lucifer reminds me of Bill Cipher!
Or like Lucifer from Hazbin Hotel!
Satan: See, I go with the snakes too, but I wouldn't use 'em as literally as that
Hades: Everyone is a critic these days
0:10 this cracked me up. Rather than kidnapping it looks more like she ordered him to carry her and his face is like: Your wish is my command, there's nothing I cannot do for you! You're...huff..light..as a feather!
And she's like: if you're tired just say so ok? Him: Nope! Mission Wife Kidnapping is in motion!
SAAAME🤣🤣🤣
Kinda looks like if Hades was super excited to show Persephone something, probably found a pretty crystal or a cute hellhound puppy
Hades: Persephone, come look what I found!!
Persephone: Okay? Hold on, do I weigh anything to you?
Hades: Not really, no. But look! It’s a puppy, Persephone! A puppy!!
Hades never chose to be the king of the underworld either. He was the eldest male and SHOULD have been the king of the universe. But he became the king of the underworld because he drew a bad straw.
Speaking of which, why is zeus always portrayed as an old man while the rest younger than him? He was the youngest of all them? Did big daddy titan's stomach stunt their growth?
MrNegaBlox. The stanger part is that he didn't contest his lot. He took the Underworld and ran it like he was supposed to, while his younger bros played around with mortals or had hissy fits. He honestly doesn't seem to mind, except for the loneliness and the whole some people not playing by the rules of life and death.
#Lethadesruletheuniverse
Then again, I doubt any of his brothers will do a good job running the underworld. It's a tough and boring job, you can't have the antics like what Zeus and Poseidon does...
MrNegaBlox yeah and Hades won't cheat his wife every nine mins
But then again, in the Underworld, you don't constantly have to put up with Wingus (Zeus) and Dingus (Poseidon), and Hades must have realized that, which was probably why he settled into his new role fairly quickly.
'People hear King Of The Underworld and suddenly all they can see is Satan.'
Satan: "That's me!" 😸
Hello Satan!
Why do people mistake Lord Hades for you?(I said Lord because it's proper...)
Daddy issues...
Hades (brandishing his bident,starting to run at Satan): "FUCK OFF!"
...and all of a sudden all I can imagine is a sitcom where Hades and Satan are neighbors! XD
@@alyssaburda2090 i do not require tge term lord im not my brothers
1:22 "Friends don't let friends kidnap goddesses"
Yet another pure gold quote we need merch of XD
I blame Disney for the negative portrayal of Hades or at least one of the major contributors to his negative image
Disney was FAR from the source of it, they just didn’t help. The Roman-caused Christianization probably started the negative image of Hades.
At least Disney’s Hades is an absolute blast to watch, regardless of how inaccurate it is. Kid Icarus Uprising’s version of Hades is also a lot of fun
Unfortunately I think your right. In general I don't like when Hades is portrayed in a villainous manner but the one I don't mind as much is, Ironically, the Disney one. He's just too entertaining and funny for me to truly dislike him and his actions, while evil, created a lot of great moments in the movie which led to a lot of happy memories for my entire immediate family. However the two heroic versions of Hades that I think are my favorites are the one from Dresden Files and the one from the Hades and Persephone ficlets.
@@brotherofastudio6310 for me is Class of the Titans which portrayed him a more authentic version of himself
@@cap90parker0 I've never seen that version so I wouldn't know.
@@pokeyscorpion8224 I agree, Disney Hades, while Inaccurate, was loads of fun. The only villainous Hades I actually like. I don't know enough about the Kid Icarus Hades so I can't make a good comparison.
Honestly the boys are lucky it was Hades ruining their shit instead of Persephone. She struck me as orders of magnitude more ruthless than the nice, kinda lonely guy with the dog named Spot.
TwoHeavens Well, there is a reason why The Greeks won't just address Persephone's name lightly as she was known to be just as stern as her husband and she would not hesitate to fuck shit up when she's angered. (they only address to her as 'Kore'or the 'Maiden').
+Janelle Lecho
The Greeks also referred to Hades as _Plouton_ (Greek: Πλούτων), as they feared that death would come quicker if they invoked his real name.
+Boss Isaac And if I have the right information in my head, that means "the rich one" or something along those lines. It's like how people called fairies "the fair folk" to avoid pissing them off.
+Wade Spencer
You'd be correct.
_Ploútōn_ is derived from the Greek word Πλοῦτος _(Ploutos)_ which literally means “wealth” or “riches”.
Yeah Hades is one of my fav major Gods. You know who else doesn't get any love (and it's sad) is his sister Hestia. I will admit, when I saw that Hades was going to be the villain in the Disney version of Hercules, I was like, "Really? This guy gets picked on so much!"
She might not have had a temple cult, but Hestia was loved and worshipped in every household. Granted, in ways I cant fathom, sanctity of the household and its occupants seems lame to modern storytellers
I also don’t think Eris gets enough love but that’s just me I suppose -.-
Stephen Flint Yes, and every offering to whatever Olympian must be offered to her foremost. I personally like the variation of Prometheus tale in which the Heavenly fire was bestowed upon him by Hestia straight from her domain.
At least James Woods made Hades a total hoot to watch.
Stephen Flint I am now going to write a story about her and post it somewhere. Thanks for the Inspiration!
Satan: You’re weak.
Hades: I’m you, but morally better.
Gottem
also rich
And more powerful.
@@thebighurt2495debatable
@@neelmodi7765 greed and gluttony were two of the deadly sins, so we can assume Satan to be loaded as well. Mostly the kind of cursed jewelery though.
0:31 Cerberus is an ancient Dalmatian confirmed
Gosh. .. now I imagine a giant three heads dalmatien!
My sister's boyfriend (who LOOOOVES dogs) told me once that he pictures Cerberus as a giant three-headed pit bull and that's just...forever burned into my mind.
I have since started drawing Cerberus as a giant pit bull with spots just because.
I am now wondering how old the dalmatian breed is since the Dalmatia region of the Balkans is not far from Greece 🤔
In punderworld comic Cerberus is an Dalmatian.
I always pictured him as a great dane. Pretty sure they were there at that time period, and they sometimes have spots. Besides, even mundane danes get massive.
Hades rules, and the way you draw him is awesome
are you sure it won't be too chaotic if he ruled
Punching Dragon He is typically depicted as a bit of a stern person
You kidding, he's the Helenic divine accountant.
Kyto kumera nah needs a little bit of facial hair to top it off.
This story should be renamed to "the day kerberos got his favorite chewing toy".
But there were two of them, so wouldn't it be toys?
Yes it would be toys, if not Theseus got saved in the end by Hercules, "watch the credits" my friend
I did not see the credits.
"the day spot got his favorite chew toy"
One of the biggest problem when I would encounter kerberos is who to call the best boy of them all 😓
“You may as well get to know your future husband-in-law” made me sputter.
I love how, in almost any other mythology, the Underworld is all but unreachable by the living, but in Greek mythology, people can literally stroll in there like it's an undead Wal-Mart.
An undead Walmart actually sounds interesting as long as it’s not zombies. I bet they’d have stuff that aren’t sold around anymore? Or maybe displays of what ancient artifacts looked like when they weren’t ancient. I’m not a big fan of history class, but that’d be a serious goldmine, especially if it showed how ancient cultures were and had complete, clear stories of the old gods.
Undead walmart: you may enter and browse, but may never leave (without express permission from hades)
Me: sooo your dogs name is spot? Is he a Dalmatian??
Hades: well you see about that
he's actually a damnation
Francesco Lombardi please put this on your tombstone good sir
@@francescolombardi3438 Fuck you, that was way too brilliant! HAHAHAHAHA!
Hades: Come here, Spot! Sit, sit. Good boy!
Cerberus(Spot): ***gives souls dog kisses***
Imagine getting slobbered on by three massive heads with braincell to share and the enthusiasm of a happy Pitbull who refuses to acknowledge that it is no longer a lap dog.
Give Spoty a hug
@@ashleightompkins3200 I personally like the idea that since Cerberus was a child of Typhon and Echidna that he has intelligence and Hades still babies him like;
Cerberus: *Do not patronise me, Child of Kronos, for you are not worth the dust between my paws. You and your kin shall fall at the might of my father and there shall be no penance for the crimes you have committed against all of humanity*
Hades: Sounds like someone isn’t getting any steak for din-din
Cerberus: wait no, I was kidding
@@astoroidea6502 Oh my God, I love it!!
Cerberus: *How dare you deny me, bride of the Underworld! I would swallow you whole and the world would be richer for it.*
Persephone: Awww, does someone wanna go for walkies?
Cerberus: *yips in that adorable dumbass way that only dogs can*
Back here from the Persephone/Hades video. Gotta love the protective husband who punishes creeps for going after his wife. At the same time though, it would be even more interesting if Pirithous actually got to Persephone, in which she would then refuse him or sick Cerberus on him. Because I mean two mortals vs the Underworld. Orpheus is an exception since he didn't have malicious intentions.
The only thing I find disappointing about the game Hades is that we will never see Zagreus sass Theseus about this.
Just
Imagine the sass
We were robbed
That would have been perfect
Plenty of stuff about Ariadne, though. From Theseus, Dionysus, and Asterius.
1:28
Wait, livid means angry
But is also means being blueish grey
Omg
Oh. My. God. That is so brilliant!
Lolz.
Yuh!
I did not see that coming
*slightly*
#HadesProtectionSquad ?
Tofu Sure thing! i‘ll be using this hashtag from now on if that’s cool with you!
Must protecc
*PROTECT HADES *WITH OUR LIVES*
YEP
YEP
Everybody’s talking about how awesome Hades is but nobody’s talking about how beautiful Red’s version of “Go the Distance” is! Seriously, Red, you have an amazing voice that works well singing and narrating, as well as an art style that is simple, but awesome. You go, girl!
absolutely! I love to sing that song, but I can't come close to her.
That picture of him with his shades just tells the furies “have fun ladies Now if you’ll excuse me Perse and I have date night.”
So badass
The more research I do on this myth, the more angry it makes me about the version of it that my teacher made us read in class. According to that one, Dionysus bullied Theseus into abandoning Ariadne, and Persephone hated Hades and wanted to have children. Neither of which I can find confirmed literally ANYWHERE.
man the more i read on greek lore the more i hate most of there deities and hades is a great boy
I believe there _is_ text confirming the Dionysus one, but it's treated more as an add-on to the original tale.
In essence, it's an optional, semi-canon fanfic. I of course, prefer to believe the version where Dionysus just happened to be hanging out on that island and met Ariadne.
@Jaxson Grigsby i don't know but everybody can make mistake
CJCroen1393 The version that I heard was that after a misadventure with a crew of pirates, Dionysus had the sole survivor (whom he left alive because the sailor recognized him as a god) drop him off at the nearest island. After a few minutes of wandering around and gathering supplies to make a boat to get him home (probably along with some exotic island grapes to bring home), he found the heartbroken Ariadne sitting on the shore. The two fell in love, eventually got married, and Ariadne got to become immortal. Happy ending!
Also, Hades let a guy go home when he told Hades that his wife didn't do a funeral tradition. Which was a trick and aparently Hades forgot about it for a while until Thanatos reminded him about it when the guy (who had kidnapped Thanatos before cause he didn't want to die) didn't return.
So really, Hades is a loyal husband and a forgetful, oblivious dork. Who is also really lonely in the spring and summer that he made a someone play a howmanypieces puzzle with him.
I'm pretty sure that guy went up to Persephone about that issue!
Double forgetfulness points on the Sisyphus example (the guy who kidnapped Thanatos and later got permission to haunt his wife) if you go by the alternate version of said myth, in which it was *Hades himself* who was kidnapped.
@@NTA247 I know this comment is super old and you already forgot about it and probably won't respond but do you have the link to that version
Going to the underworld
Cerberus lounges at you, barks and bites and growls!
And than, from the back of the underworld : "Spot! Keep it down! Bad boy!"
1:00 right here officer
Hades is actually a decent man. He only messed up the two dudes that tried to kidnap his wife. Poor dude.
Is he a man?
Hayden Lau He is; That long beautiful hair throw me off too
@@aprilzaczkowski9273 No no, what I meant is, he's not a man he's a God
Hades: I'm sorry. I'm just ABSOLUTELY LIVID at the moment.
That a TFS reference?
@@aabattery4092
Most likely.
@@festethephule7553 It's a TTS reference, actually. The quotes are similar but a bit different.
Frieza from DBZA - I'm just a bit ABSOLUTELY LIVID.
The Emperor from TTS - I am sorry. I am just ABSOLUTELY LIVID at the moment. *goes on rant*
@@anonguy772
Funny story. I don't remember what I was thinking when I made that comment of mine (as I don't remember making that comment) but I highly suspect that I actually read TFS as TTS, 'cause I am well aware of that reference, far more than I am of any reference from DBZA.
Btw, any thoughts on the latest episode? I don't quite understand what Star Child's greatest weakness is meant to be. Gullibility? Naivety? I'm a mite bit confused.
@@festethephule7553 He's far too kind. Being evil for no reason is his weakness just as much as Vect's was being kind. Or at least I think so, kinda need to refresh my brain on how that scene exactly played out to give you a proper answer
I love how she sings at the end of the videos.
“Don’t mess with Hades, period.”
*Zagreus has entered the game.*
Well he is his son (or not depends of the version, homeric or orphic), so he gets a pass, just like his twin Melinoe
Helen is the cause of the Trojan War in the same way that beavers were the cause of the Beaver Wars. Sure, the war was fought over them and wouldn't have existed if they weren't so valuable, but it's not like they had any _choice._
...Please ignore the double entendre, I swear that was unintentional.
Nah, it was Eris the goddess of Discord
Basically, it's the God's mistake and their fault for not inviting Eris which then caused the Judgment of Paris.
@@abegailcaparroso9407 still would probably happen she is the goddess of discord after all
So she was the cause... But she is not to blame.
I mean we can't blame her for existing and being beautiful!
@@yamaslushy9461 yee it was not her fault in fact she was a victim of the goddesses quarrel over an apple lol
*1:14*
*Helen flips at Theseus and Pirithous*
*100% PURE S A V A G E ! ! !*
Anime Kid DUHHHHH! Who wants to be kidnaped
Wasn't there a story about a nyph that tried to seduse Hades, and he keep saying: "I'm married, sorry." But she kept trying until Persephone found out and in a fit of rage and jelousy turn her into a plant?
Yep, Persephone changed her into a mint plant
@@myasmith1820 Right that plant!
Emanuel Torres and then she was still so angry that she stomped the plant till it was mush(?) and thus I present, the peppermint!(or mint I don't know)
@@jinolin9062 That's a bit of creative liberty, but believable.
Hades: "... You've been hanging around Hera, haven't you?"
Persephone: "actually, Aphrodite"
Hades: "oh... I see"
Ever notice how Hades is one of the only Greek gods that Red draws with pupils? I feel like that must mean something...
they only get pupils when they have a good marriage. Persephone also has pupils.
Maybe the pupils symbolize still having a sane mind in this absolute knightmare of a pantheon
@@TS17ADS I can see it