Miscellaneous Myths: Pwyll, Prince of Dyved
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- Everyone pissed I left Wales out of my last list of Celtic countries, raise your hand! And if you're one of the ~3,170,000 people in Wales, please use those raised hands to cover your ears so you don't hear me butchering your beloved language when I talk about the first branch of The Mabinogi! STRAP IN FOR THE ADVENTURES OF PWYLL, LEGEND'S MOST CONFUSINGLY-PRONOUNCED RULER!
I've disgraced my fifteenth-century Welsh potato-farming ancestor with this transgression against good Welsh pronunciation. Sorry, great-great-great-great-etc-grampa Jim.
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Pwyll's Mythological Superpower?
Respecting women.
Whamen*
Unlike Zeus--
That's a very rare superpower among heroes, but a very appreciated one.
Pwyll : *All women are queens*
Zeus : If she breathes... *SHE'S A THOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT*
Konnos X - nah, it’s:
Zeus: even if it doesn’t breathe, imma stick my d-ck in it.
The thought of the penance is hilarious. "Hi, welcome to the city, I'm the queen and I'm legally required to tell you that I ate my baby."
This reminds me of that “introduction” that sex offenders have to make every time they move to a new neighborhood. “Hi, this is our first interaction and I’m going to begin by telling you that I’m a registered baby-eater.”
I still think the nurses are super dicks for framing her, by killing puppies, smearing her with the blood, and putting one of the skeletons in the crib.
@@vickymc9695 fucking what
@@terozu5440 it's what happens in my copy of the book.
@@vickymc9695 That's freaking horrifying.
"It this a Pull door?"
"No, it's a Pwush door."
"But it says 'Pwyll'."
"Hate to break it to you, my guy."
FUCKING W E L S H
**F U C K I N G W E L S H**
*Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch intensifies*
And then you read the Mabinogi and its
translation key and realize that's NOWHERE FREAKING CLOSE to how Pwyll is pronounced!
Indeed. I have been forced to learn Welsh by the education system of Wales, where I live for some reason. It really gets to the point where you hate the language.
Pwyll spend a year with a super gorgeous lady, pretended to be her husband yet DIDN'T sleep with her(unlike Zeus). That ALONE makes him a hero and now we all want him as our friend.
total bro
Gotta say, I sympathize with Mrs. Arawn at about 2:18 though. I mean, a *year?*
@@typacsk It had to be done, bros before hoes my man
As the video quoted, he is a “Paragon of Self Control”
Every way he's not like Zeus is a reason to like him
Pwyll's feats so far: earned a ticket to godhood for when he dies by following the bro code, got his future wife to slow her magical horse down simply by asking nicely, secured his marriage by listening to his fiance, stands by his wife when everyone accuses her of baby-eating. Turns out you don't need do something as hard as slay a dragon to be a legendary hero. Sometimes all it takes is being an upstanding, righteous dude who has a few cases of good luck.
I really wish this was a more common message in mythology, Pwyll is truly a treasure
We need an actual story to be like this because that sounds much better than a lot of stuff today.
That's a very Welsh message from what I understand of the culture* and folklore. Be good, protect your home; the world is full of big scary foreign powers but there's no need to go off questing when family is right here.
*EDIT: Not sure what I meant when I first posted this, but I am not meaning to generalise to the modern culture here, as I don't have any experience of being part of it. I'm referring to the message as a cultural element of Welsh stories, not a fact of life in the modern day (though I'd be surprised if it wasn't still an important idea in places due to those stories).
@E Smith unless your welsh you still gotta fight it
I feel like there'd be a lot less conflict if the Bible contained only one page which read Thou shalt be an upstanding, righteous dude'.
Red: "Arawns wife is a beautiful and interesting lady, thats loads of fun to talk to."
Next scene, said wife: "Chug! Chug! Chug!"
Sounds like he's a party animal to me and that makes her a thousand times more interesting than most women.
She can be both
I'm pretty sure compared to the royal families of the time that's actually a thousand times better automatically.
Sounds like fun to me.
I'd marry her too
Didn’t sleep with the kings wife, didn’t kill anyone, loyal to his wife.
He’s actually a pretty cool guy when Pwll comes to shove. 😎
When pwyll comes to shove
When push comes to shove
Ahah smsjshanw
Pwyll and Pwll? Different pronunciation, different spelling, different meaning. One is the dude mentioned in the myth and one is 'pool', as in swimming pool. Don't mean to ruin your joke, I just thought I'd point it out.
TheDarkFigure InTheCornerOfTheRoom
Does it also annoy you when words and names are so severely butchered? I understand, though, Welsh is complicated and I only know it bc I go to a Welsh school and started learning the language when I was three
Edenrose YT
Depends on whether the person attempting to pronounce the words is sincerely trying to get it right. It annoys me when they either try a little then give up or when they just don't care at all. Welsh is only complicated if you don't know the rules - you realise it's a very phonetically-spelt language when you know how to say Welsh letters like ch, dd and ll. I also went to a Welsh school. Est ti i ysgol Cymraeg gynradd neu uwchradd? Efallai y ddau?
TheDarkFigure InTheCornerOfTheRoom
Rydw i’n mynd i ysgol uwchradd ar y pryd, blwyddyn 8, ond roeddwn i wedi mynd i ysgol gynradd.
We regret to inform you that you ate the baby
Damn it, hate when that happens
those servants are wankers (wait sorry, they can't do that) so umm bitches
@@agungpriambodo1674 They can do it in spirit.
Roses are red, Lincoln's wife called him Abey,
We regret to inform you that you ate the baby
This comment got a genuine laugh out of me.
Pryderi, possible meanings:
-worry
-concern
-I'm the one going to strangle those handmaids for telling everyone I ate you
Such a beautiful language
Do you think that's legit? I don't think so, but german can have entire sentences consist of a single word so I have no clue
@@coyraig8332 I wish. But it just means worry or anxiety. It was apparently an old Welsh custom for the mother to name her child after the first word she spoke on seeing them and was essentially Rhiannon exclaiming that finally all her worry and grief had left her
@@coyraig8332 Actually, while German can have extremely complex and long nouns, there is no way to make an entire sentence with one, due to the fact that verbs exist.
Well, basically, it means "Peril" - and went on to "Puck" in some Tales (Y'know, this Guy in Merlins Tale-Movie?)
Peril reflects on both sides - his and his Mothers Peril - and the Future he holds and also brings to others.
Names are a blessing - and a curse in that World.
Arawn: Hello human. May I ask how you arrived at my domain?
Pwyll: Well, I was going hunting, and I kinda...got lost.
Arawn: ...You got lost going hunting, and ended up in the Other-world?!
Pwyll: I am not a clever man.
Centuries later
Arawn: greetings human, how have you arrived at my domain?
Person: ???
Arawn: how did you get here?
Person: I don’t know I got lost
Arawn: so you got Isekai’d?
Arawn: sorry I recently been seeing some thing called IntErNEt
"I knew I should've made a right turn!"
he is the great grandfather of leon from swsh
I get it though. I've worked in areas where I was totally expecting some guy with deer antlers to come riding up out of the mist :P
@@typacsk that's around the time you either run really really fast and pray or get down on your knees and be as polite as mam-gu ever taught you
I.....I can't even fully process the level of broness here. And I'm not just talking about not banging someone's wife when you have the chance.
Two guys that met randomly while hunting and on the wrong foot, talk it out and switch lives. Both of them, with full control over the other's reputation and free to ruin the other's reputation without any immediate blame on them, do their absolute BEST to make the life the other will return to better.
Pwyll, not only rules well for Arawn, not only refuses to make any moves on his wife but gets him out of a life or death duel and gets him ALL of Annwyn. Meanwhile Arawn goes over to Pwyll's kingdom and sees to it that it prospers and is even better than when Pwyll left and doesn't leave any kind of trouble for him.
Us mere mortals can only aspire and aim towards that level of broness. The tragedy here is that Pwyll is so obscure. He should have gone down as the patron saint of the Bro Code for that alone.
I think he would be the greatest moral writer in history (3rd) only to the prophets
Instead he's seem as the biggest idiot for not doing so.
"Us mere mortals can only aspire"
I honestly think that's the point of the stories in the first place. Did the people exist? Fuckin' maybe. But they give us an example to follow, and that's really cool in its own right, imo.
I'm honestly kinda surprised that out of all the mythological figures that were Christianized as saints, Pwyll wasn't one of them
@@andrewreid5310 I think it's because it's really hard to Christianize someone going to the underworld and not meeting the angry, sunburnt, pitchfork wielding, former choir leader, git.
Pwyll: yeah no I respected Arawn and his unassuming wife in my disguise and didn’t sleep with her
The Greeks, sweating profusely: wh-what?
Zeus: IMPOSSIBLE!
Also Pwyll: I didn't immediately believed the false claim thrown onto my wife and betrayed her trust just to appease the population.
The Romans, livids: Impossible.
@@evankearney6781 hera, now fuming; WAIT, GUYS CAN CONTROL THEMSELVES! I'VE GOT SOME WOMEN TO APOLOGIZE TO, BUT WHEN I'M DONE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE TALK ZEUS!
Zeus, running; TAKE YOUR TIME HONEY!
Hera: I’m gonna shove your thunderbolts so far up your ass you’ll be tasting nothing but ozone for the rest of your immortality
Where are these phantom comments it is say their is 4 but including my comment theirs 3
[Narrator Voice]
When Red saw these Gaelic names, she was hesitant to speak them.
"But then," she murmured to herself, "When Pwyll comes to shove..."
to rEMIND YOU OF MY LOVE
DA DA DA DA DA DAAAAAAA-
Kaleb Martin DADADADA DAYADA DADADADA DA DYAAADADA
DA DA DA DAAA, DA-DA-DA DA DAYA DA DA DA DA DAAAA
YOU SAY OUR LOVE IS DRAINING AND YOU CANT GO OOOOOONNNNNNN
@@kottonkandy0962 YOU'LL BE THE ONE COMPLAINING, WHEN I AM GOOOOOOOOOOOOONE
LolGamez - AND _NO!_ DON’T CHANGE THE SUBJECT! ‘CAUSE YOU’RE MY FAVORITE SUBJECT! MY SWEET, SUBMISSIVE, SUBJECT! MY LOYAL, ROYAL SUBJECT... for ever... and ever... and ever, and ever, and eeeeveeeerrrrrrr...
Wow that’s one of the more healthy mythological relationships.
Yeah it's actually refreshing to see such a wholesome mythos, from start to finnish.
Edwin Vanderhaeghen BADUM TSSSSS
That was so wholesome
We all bow to the superior man. He has made the ultimate pun.
His relationship is even more healthier than Hades and Persephone
"You ate the baby in your sleep"
"You were responsible for the baby's safety, why didn't you stop me?"
"..."
(Maids huddle together and start whispering among each other)
because we were asleep
Because you are the queen.
"You ate the one of us who tried to stop you."
@@servomoore Good lie, easily disproved, but good try.
@@annbogan Then how do you know I ate the baby?
*hi welcome to Dyved wanna hear about the time i ate an entire baby in my sleep*
*hi welcome to dyved wanna here about the time were we acused the queen of eating the baby*
@@rahmanmoncatar9675 ᴰᵒ ʸᵒᵘ ʳᵉᵃˡˡʸ ᵗʰⁱⁿᵏ ᴾʷʸˡˡ'ˢ ʷⁱᶠᵉ ʷᵒᵘˡᵈ'ᵛᵉ ˡᵉᵗ ᵗʰᵉᵐ ˡⁱᵛᵉ?
@@YeahAlright1983 do think they lived at all???
*DO I?*
Thats Wales for you 😂
WHAT??? A hero who isn't Mr. Steal-yo-girl??? We need more Bro-hero like him
i agree
Yes we do. Even in modern literature, no one is ever faithful.
He also wasn't "Mr. Believe the last thing told to me", another rarity with most mythical heroes
Neither is he Mr. "Immediately Believe All the Slander About My Wife and Kicks Her Out"
Correct me if im wrong but Rhiannon already had a fiance when she met pwyll...
Pwyll spent an entire YEAR with a hot, interesting lady, and DIDNT sleep with her even as he was disguised as her husband. AND stood up for his own woman when assholes wanted to butt into their relationship. this dude is an absolute chad.
Couldn't agree more
Ladies, gents, and everyone inbetween? find a partner like this!
Something interesting, I believe I read that Arwen even gave Pwyll permission to sleep with his wife, but Pwyll still refused.
@@elistewart3435 If that's true, then Pwyll is even more of a legend.
Pwyll: "Thou shalt not sleep with thine best friend's wife."
Rhiannon: Pwyll, what are you doing up this late?
Pwyll: I'm writing my life's work. It will be my legacy, my gift to future generations! I will call it: "The Bro Code!"
It all makes sense now!
I see... This is where my sacred texts that hold reign over the manner in which my life is lived came from
Bryan Cubero Everyone needs a Pwyll in their life
Dammit Barney that's not how it works
Your comment killed me with laughter.
Maid 1: "The baby's gone. Oh dang it we are SO screwed."
Maid 2: "Or are we? Why not just frame a random person?"
Maid 3: "You're right Maid 2, we'll just frame someone else...but who?"
Maid 2: "Why not Rhiannon?"
Maid 3: "Perfect!"
Maid 1: "You can't be serious."
Rhiannon: "WHERE'S MY BABY!"
Maids: "..."
Maid 1 "You ate him. You just gobbled him up. It was terrifying. How could you, you monster."
"It was terrifying.. your mouth unhinged like a snake..."
"She right. We all saw you...You just ate him."
@@doppy8682 that''s what forgiveness sounds like, screaming and then silence
bloodstone ore
Doplhim
It took me a minute to get the reference but I got there eventually 😀😂
Neko Sun “Your mouth became a gaping abyss into hell...”
I'd like to take a moment to appreciate the greatest love story:
"I'm glad I found you. I was actually hoping we could get married. Yeah, there's this guy - gwawl, son of clud - and if I don't marry you I have to marry him. Interested?"
"Sure, you seem cool"
"Yuss!"/*fistpump*
And then they actually have a really successful marriage.
Better than Twilight.
@@luckystarplays1837 Lol, that's not hard.
Sounds good
@@JenamDrag0n Indeed
"Pwyll, you paragon of self-control, I would _die_ for you!" This is why I love Pwyll and Arawn's friendship in the myths.
What's interesting is that Arawn had actually said that it was cool if Pwyll slept with his wife, but Pwyll had the self-control to not do so.
I mean if his wife didn't know that Pwyll wasn't Arawn it'd be really unethical for him to sleep with her, since she wouldn't be able to properly consent.
@@gl00myharvester Tbf this is coming from a time where this was probably practiced or not seen as outrageous, so applying the 21st century logic to the logic of a story from probably over 1000 years ago doesn't really work which sort of essentuates the goodness of the man in the story because again living in a world where that was probably common place and he decided not to for probably extremely good morals at the time.
"Is she pregnant NOW?" *holds up baby* "had a son" lmaoooo
Just like real royal families.
@@Silverwind87 Yep, glad to know things haven't changed in the thousands of years of this myth and the modern UK.
Maids: boy, they've been in there for quite a while, we're gonna have an heir soon!
*Meanwhile, what's actually happening*
Rhiannon and Pwyll: *cuddling for like 3 hours*
That is freaking adorable and wholesome.
*true Love just wants to have the one at your side intensifies*
I mean. They could still be going at it. But wholesomely. Yk. Handholding, lots of kisses, non-stop eye contact-
Pwyll is the best bro, king and husband in mythology I have ever heard of.
Coralia .I yes true
Facts he didn’t sleep with the other Kong’s wife he didn’t mess up his kingdom and he stood by his wife through the whole thing. Is there anyway to resurrect him??!?!?!?
+Kat The Nerdfighter Do people look up the Herakles? I mean as a fighter, sure, but as a person he's usually portrayed (Disney aside) as kinda a jerk.
Jerk kinda sells him short for a lot of the really nasty stuff he did. Also yeah, Pwyll is one of the nicest great heroes I've hear of in mythology.
Although not nearly as good at kinging as Arann it seems.
Then again, he's magic.
*Pwyll and Rhiannon going up to a door marked 'pull'*
Rhiannon: *thinks,* *pushes door*
Pwyll: you think you're so funny don't you
Chloe Coombs yup
I know i would
You know its p wee ll not p w i sh sorry to be a killjoy
I don’t get ut
@@user-ek8dr1je5h 0:33
The thought of Pwyll dying makes me sad. He’s so cute and also a wonderful person. Like damn. I might be just overly impressed because this is ancient mythology but like damn. He be literally respecting everyone and just being a wonderful person. I love
if it's any conciliation, he did become an underwold god after he died.
Yeah, Pwyll at least wasn’t said to have died tragically in a war or something else horrible that usually befalls heroes.
His son, on the other hand, his story is quite sad at least from minimal reading I did on Wikipedia.
He is a mortal that lived thousands of years ago.
@@henrypaleveda7760 Because that’s what everyone needs to see when they die. A friendly face. 😊
@@traviscollura2440Kind of like Neil Gamain’s interpretation of Death in the Sandman.
There's no internal logic needed for being grateful to the guy who never touched your wife despite living with her for a year. Pwyll is the ultimate bro and deserves all the divine gifts he can get.
He is the most grateful person in the world who isn't selfish and doesn't hold grudges
I mean, seeing as how he's surprised at the fact he didn't, it might have been understood or implied in the agreement that he would be allowed to as he *is* supposed to be impersonating him.
I donno, should people be rewarded for acting like decent people?
Sucks for the women though. She must have been confused and hurt, but who cares, right?
@@WouldntULikeToKnow. oh shut the fuck up.
@@WouldntULikeToKnow. Sounds like she had a fun time anyway, sex isn't the be-all-end-all
I would make a joke about pwyll coming to shove, but that's been milked more than necessary. Instead I'm going to say this: this guy is one great role model!
Reason 1: he doesn't bang the King's wife while in disguise. Zeus could learn a thing or two from this guy.
Reason 2: he only kills one person in this story.
Reason 3: he isn't an asshole to his wife, just a little clueless.
Reason 4: he doesn't kill the guy who tries to steal his wife.
Reason 5: he actually remains faithful to his wife.
This guy is an absolute bro.
Edit: this is mostly in comparison to other "heroes" of various mythologies
Edit the second: I honestly didn't expect to be a top commenter on one of my favorite videos on RUclips, thanks guys! Really appreciate ya work!!!!
@Ralph Lorenzo Joshua Ramos Templo
And Uther Pendragon.
@Ralph Lorenzo Joshua Ramos Templo yes but Lancelot stole Authur's wife Gwenivere.
@SteinbrecherBack You act like mythological heroes do the thing that makes sense on a moment-by-moment basis, instead of just unga bunga fucking themselves over.
He's a great role model for Zeus and Poseidon
@SteinbrecherBack About Each Number... (Well, only point 1 and 3)
1. I don't know; it worked out pretty well for Sir Lanval/Launfal. He got to marry a beautiful Fae princess. Also, considering Pwyll would later marry Rhiannon, it worked out well for Pwyll.
3. You're right about that one: don't piss off a faerie.
Is it just me or Celtic heroic figures display a lot more traits that would be considered heroic with modern standards than greek ones? From where I stand, Pwyll seems to be a waaaay better role model than Herakles.
I mean he doesn’t murder any women Heracles Ahem Ahem he doesn’t try to Murder women Theseus Ahem Ahem I mean if it wasn’t for Dionysius that Minoan princess would be dead 50 times over
I mean, this was written in the middle ages, much closer to today than the greek myths.
@@tompatterson1548 True but it's not like women were treated fairly in the middle ages. Better than in ancient Greece perhaps, but nowhere near what would be considered modern standards.
Also, "hero" didn't mean the same to the Greeks. To them, a hero was simply one blessed by the gods to perform incredible feats. There was no moral element, whatsoever.
@@bdletoast09 Women at least had more rights through most of the Middle Ages than they did in the Renaissance. With the semi-matriarchal Mongols in the steppes, and more ability to opt out of societal control (albeit at a heavy price), it was harder for authority figures to enforce any form of full patriarchal domination like one sees forming in the Renaissance and later.
But none of that is to say they were treated _fairly._ Not really. It was just often closer. Especially for noble or respected elderly widows with their own property or business.
3:19 Pwyll invited Arawn to the party? Pwyll, truly is the best of all the heroes you’ve discussed.
Thank you for pointing this out! I hadn't noticed it and it makes me very happy
Eh, I read it more as royal weddings being kind of an open invitation to anyone passing by, so they could see how generous the king is and how much he rocks. That said, I can totally see Arawn either being invited or showing up anyway with gifts for his best bro, cuz seriously, dude not only won him half a kingdom, but I don't think we can over-state the sheer bro-ness of not sleeping with Arawn's totally hot and fascinating elven wife when he had every chance and excuse to!
@@Archris17 Arawn isn't at Gwawl's party though. Gotta love Red's attention to detail
thanks for pointing it out! That's so sweeeeet!
Pwyll is like Mwindo and Perseus in that he’s the only mythological figure who goes his whole life without doing some shady shit
The Mad Poet Maxie
I really don't like perseus
Didn't Perseus killed Medusa?
BUT WHY?
Nido Hime Yeah but it was for a good cause (saving his mom from an arranged marriage)
Merritt Animation I guess that is a good thing, specially when Ancient Greek was so full of assholes I still wonder why it wasn't called "Jerk-land".
As a native Welsh speaker, I’m really impressed at your attempts at pronunciation. Being from a different language family, it has several sounds that simply don’t exist in English.
Here are my (completely unasked for) notes on pronouncing. Mabinogi was done well, except the ‘o’ in welsh is pronounced as a monophthong like in the word ‘raw’ in a standard (British) English accent. Pwyll is pronounced like the word ‘pull’ but with the ɬ sound. The ‘ll’ started edging towards a ‘sh’ sound, understandably, and thanks so much for giving it a go, because when people just pronounce it as it would be in English it sounds so strange. Arawn was well pronounced, but roll the ‘r’, only once (like a tap rather than a trill), and ‘w’ in Annwn is pronounced ‘oo’, so like ‘Anoon’. Hafgan was pretty much spot-on! Rhiannon was pretty well done, but the ‘h’ after an ‘r’ means that it has a little burst of air, which doesn’t happen in English, it’s an alveolar tap that is stopped by a burst of air. Otherwise perfect, as was gwawl (except that’s only one syllable). Clud isn’t pronounced ‘cleed’ as much as it’s pronounced ‘clid’. The cute sign in the back at 4:31 should be spelt ‘does dim unman i debyg i gartre. Teyrnon is pronounced more like ‘tay-r-non’. Pryderi was spot on, but make sure to roll both ‘r’s. Dyfed has emphasis on the first syllable rather than the second, but otherwise was good.
Thanks for giving such a difficult language for an English speaker a try, and doing it so successfully. Also, I’ve never heard Welsh names pronounced by an American before. Da iawn, a Cymru am Byth!
Roeddwn I wedi dyfalu dy fod ti wedi dod o Dde Cymru oherwydd yr ‘o’ yn y gair Mabinogi lol. Dw i’n dod o sir Ddinbych a mae’r ‘o’ yn wahanol I sut dw in ei ddweud o haha
What does the cute sign in the background mean?
It's always so pleasant to see someone appreciative and constructive in responding to a person attempting parts of their language for the first time instead of acting offended or insufferably correcting them. Thank you for being super decent and for taking the time to explain the pronunciations! Welsh is such a unique and interesting language, especially from the perspective of an American English speaker.
There’s no place like home is the intention, but they actually wrote “there’s no place similar to home” or something to that effect
Thanks for explaining it to use nicely, and in such good faith~
This was pretty wholesome. Pwy’ll was a bro and Rhiannon is one cool lady.
Isagail except that time she totally ate her baby.
Ikr? Who does that?
Inquisitor Thomas Are you joking or being sarcastic??? Cause I can't tell 🤔
This story is lit
Yass
"Anything."
Honestly that word screws over more things than it should.
More things than "everything"?
It just edges out "the thing you care about most" in the list of Phrases To Run Away From In Ancient Prophecies And Supernatural Agreements.
This man got to be a stand in king , DIDN'T let the power go to his head, seemingly NEVER broke character, and DIDN'T sleep with the prior king's wife.
FOR A YEAR!
I know it can be cringe to call someone or something pog or poggers, but this man was literally the most POG MYTH HERO, you can't convince me otherwise.
Huh... an ancient Myth that has a happy ending, that was fulfilling
Just wait until they get to Branwen's tale.
Oh you poor soul. If only you knew the depths of Celtic culture, shit gets real fucked once you get under the surface layer.
Leivve I’m more familiar with Greco-Roman Mythology than anything else
Pwyll: So, I was the King of half of the Underworld for a year and I had this beautiful loving woman as my "wife" but I didn't let her sleep with me for a year for my boi Arawn. It's what heroes do.
Lancelot: Heroes do what now!? They don't sleep with other people's wives?
Pwyll: Of course! What would *you* do in my place?
Lancelot: Well...
(A few minutes later)
Pwyll: Lancelot, you piece of garbage of a knight!
Lol
this is kinda related to the video because King Arthur is a Welsh myth. But the Lancelot joke is funnier when you realise that not only did Lancelot steal Guinevere he also caused Arthur's downfall by doing so.
I don't remember the details, but King Arthur and the others did invade Annwn at some point, so it is possible that this very conversation happened. King Arthur originally came from the Welsh and other versions of the Mabinogion have legends of King Arthur in them.
@@loganelfreecs9980I'm just imagining a Convo between Arthur and pwyll that goes like
"Hey your knights are cool and all but that Lancelot fellow? I don't like him"
"Lancelot? I know he's a bit up his own ass but he's a pretty good idk what's really wrong with him"
4:16
"And Pywll immediately shoves him into the bag"
missed the opportunity to say he pushed him in
"Is she Pregnant yet?"
"No"
"How about now?"
"No"
"Now?"
"Nope"
"Now?"
"Mm-mm"
"Now??"
"NOW*?*"
"Nah"
"Is she pregnant *NOW*???"
"Had a son."
"HUZZAH!"
.... Priceless!
And the loving face Pwyll made at her just finishes it
Spongebob: Ready now?
Squidward: No . .
Spongebob: How about now?
Squidward: No, No, No!?
A similar joke appeared in YuGiOh the abridged series. There's a pretty good chance that they used that joke, but it's OK. It's a good joke...
strubbery g
It sure is buddy, it sure is!!
oh look! another baby! i knew you were hiding one somewhere.
"Well, this is a suprise!"
"Uh, how?"
"I just mean it's been a while, you know?"
"Pwyll, you paragon of self control, I would die for you."
QwQ
And her response is just the cherry on top: "Are we doing this or what?"
I love that this implies that Arawn was just gonna consider Pwyll banging his wife for a year as the price of doing business.
@@starfishhugger6232 and he still made sure his kingdom prospered
@@natalieadon1015 my god, the broness between the two of them is so bright that it’s scorching my eyes.
@@starfishhugger6232 “ya know… if he dies, he might as well not have to die a virgin… plus it’ll still be my body, regardless who’s in it!”
Pwyll’s bro move of not sleeping with Arwan’s wife for an entire year while disguised as him is the best and most amazing bro move I’ve ever heard of
I don't think it's a bro move, more of just basic respect of the wife's consent/boundaries. She didn't know Pwyll wasn't Arawn, so she couldn't properly consent to sleeping with him
I feel obligated to come up with my own headcannon, where the 3 maids were branded on the face with the word "liar" and forced to guard the gate and tell everyone how cowardly and dishonest they were.
It's actually six maids
@@clasdauskas
Even better
Actually it would have to be puppy killer because apparently they do that in the actual story so that they can frame her
@@kaboomgaming4255 you don't brand puppy killers, you hang them.
@@cambossx1287 you force them to wear shoes with nails in the soles (that is made of metal or some other material able to conduct heat) and you burn them red and force them to dance on a floor of nails so that if they trip they get impaled.
oh yea dont forget to brand them.
Huh, Pwyll doesn't actually do much that on his own initiative, but he's such a good bloke I can't help but like him. I mean especially with the wife thing. He basically stood his ground and went "BUGGER OFF. I trust my wife!"
Plus she was a horse goddess, so carrying strangers on her back naked probably felt ok.
@@forgalzz7 A horse goddess ey?
Pwyll seems to be the God of good karma, I must say. Hehe.
I love how Red drew Rhiannon fist pumping when Pwyll says he'll marry her! Also, who wants to get greeted to city by a supposed baby murderer!? "Hi! Welcome to the city where the best door greeter is someone who ate their own child! Enjoy the gift shop!"
It was the time of legends. There was probably some weird penance like that going on in every third town.
I love how at 3:08-3:16 they’re just like
“Wanna get married?”
“Eh,sure.Why not?”
chill peeps, those two
The myths are awesome, but I gotta say one thing. . .
I LOVE ALL THE GORGEOUS HAIR YOU GIVE EVERYONE THAT IS LITERALLY WHAT SOLD ME TO THIS CHANNEL. Though I do love your humor and snark as well which are both AMAZING
*fluffy as fuck*
The name “I’m gonna strangle those maids for saying I ate you” is truly a beautiful name
Red's singing is always so lovely. It's such a cozy and pleasant way to cap off the videos.
Angelic my dude
NotFang14 yeah but I can never find out which songs she sings which really sucks
She has a wonderful voice though, sometimes I wish she had a channel for full covers of those songs!
He Pwylled him into the bag?
AAAAAAAA I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE-
Nice
No, he pwuushed him into the bag.
GRRRRR NOT THE PRONUNCIATION
I swore to whatever deities there are that if I came across another one of these jokes, I would personally thank you for adding to my amusement and carry on with my night
I live in Wales and I love the mabinogion, I just wish it weren't one of the more obscure books of myth and I put that down to the name alone, it would've been widely regarded as one of the greatest texts in western canon if it'd been renamed to "The Bro Codex".
Considering I’m from Texas and would probably start World War 3 just by trying to pronounce the real name out loud, as far as I’m concerned it *is* The Bro Codex, a.k.a. The Brodex.
Isn't there a Korean MMORPG (of all things) based on it?
...The Brodex?
Pwyll is a wonderful friend his self control is godly
Thing is, though, it shouldn’t have to be. You shouldn’t *have* to make an active effort to avoid sleeping with your pal’s wife; it should be common decency. Alas, many a mythical “hero” or god doesn’t seem to get the memo.
@@Talisguy
True.
Well in his case it kinda seems weird he didnt not cause ancient heroes were assholes but in that he should have considering its weird for anyone other than pwyll and arawn coz like not fcking your wife for an entire year for no reason i feel like this would result in some problems tho considering she had a normal married life before?
@@greywalker505 I get the feeling Pwyll is so chill that he doesn't need to try.
:D Rhiannon is one of the goddesses/deities that often does not get her due in mythology canon. Thank you for covering her story here.
+Mecha Leo It's a Celtic name. Don't even try.
AnaxErik4ever word
Rhiannon is my sister’s name
As someone with the name Rhiannon, this is how I pronounce it: Ree-ann-none. Not sure exactly how they pronounce it in Welsh though.
My Cat Boo That's how I say it too, usually (source: am a Rhiannon as well)
"I didn't eat the damn baby."
In what context can you actually successfully frame someone of eating their own baby?... Especially when you're just peasants-
They used a puppy which they murdered and gave her the bones and smeared blood on her face while she slept.
@@neffrito3341 This is substantially worse simply because that means they had to kill and chop up a puppy.
@@fr0stdr4ke95 I know
@@neffrito3341 I know you know. That was the joke. I was trying to make a funny response. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
@@fr0stdr4ke95 haha sorry I'm not always the best at picking up on things
This is my favorite story from any mythology, and for me that's saying a whole lot. It has everything -- a protagonist who's actually a positive role model, female characters with personality and agency, humor, and best of all EPIC LEVELS of magical shenanigans.
Pwyll's trick with the Bag of Holding (or was it a Bag of Devouring?) was pretty slick. I need to keep that in mind for my next D&D session...
Timothy McLean Yeah a version of the bag with the nobelman rule added would be pretty neat.
A story where you are trying to find the true heir and stuff like that could be a good use for it.
I'd advise against the bag of devouring considering that would've killed the party host
The Bag of Devouring variant is for when I really don't like the host.
(And considering that one of our party members talked his way into the enemy's feast hall last session, this could have actually been useful.)
Canine Kitten hint: the nobleman rule isn't nessecarily *true*, it just happens to work out that he stopped throwing stuff in there after him
Magical Items: Because with enough cash, you can be a wizard too!
Arawn to Pwyll: "So hey, kid, do you like proving yourself?"
Pwyll: "Do I?!" 😃
that's also any darksouls player by new game + and Link
I understood that reference.
Pwyll, *GOD OF THE BRO CODE*
As a Welsh person, seeing a video about our culture with this much care and passion put into it means a lot to me. Thanks guys, keep up the good work!
She did videos about King Arthur, isn't that part of Welsh lore, I know Cornwall and France also added to it, but Arthur is a Briton, just like the Welsh, Cornish and Devonshire peoples.
Yes but that lore wasn't specifically Welsh, it was primarily English. There's a lot of mythology in the UK in general, but it's rare for the Welsh to be noticed.
+Zeta Jane Correction: British, not English. The future English were Arthur's enemies.
Ben Chenery Kinda. Arthur stuff is weird. You could argue that Arthur was intended as a welsh king back when he had a bajillion mini-kings ruling and scrapping over disunifed kingdom but it's an awkward one to fit.
Same here ^o^
Honestly, I full on expected Pwyll to refuse to turn the kingdom back over to Arawn. Not only did he turn it over without a fuss, but he kept the Bro Code that whole time? **Applause**
holy shit, this dude spent a year living in the skin of the king of the underworld but he didn´t take the chance to sleep with that guys wife? even though they slept in the same bed and had the perfect excuse? Jesus, I respect this man, that´s amazing
YAYYY I'm so happy to see someone covering Welsh myths!
Yep, and "Pwyll" essentially translates to "caution" which is cute as it matches his son with "worry."
N'awww. My country's stories are dumb.
Also, kids that can make friends with horses unnaturally easy usually spell trouble.
Then again, they also wrote about two dragons punching eachother in the earth under a city until people were like "hey shut up oh wait you're gonna kill eachother"
Well depending on which versions you read, y ddraig goch (the red dragon) is either brother to the white dragon and they fight in the ground or the white dragon is terrorising crops and the people call for the red dragon who kills white, goes and sleeps in a mountain and that's the story of why Wales has a badass flag.
Or something like that, it's been like 7 years since I heard it pf
@@Lupiterz oh I thought it was to do with it being King Arthur's banner during a Welsh Rebellion
_I smell a percy jackson reference.._
@@a.t.t.g8359 Close (albeit depending on version) . The two dragons story was held to be a prophecy with the white representating the invading Angles, Jutes and Saxons and the red the native Brythons/Welsh. Arthur was thought to be the champion represented by the red dragon, initially defeated to one day return and reclaim their home.
As for flags, Henry Tudor claimed to be this revival of Arthur and used a red dragon standard that became the Welsh flag.
Welsh legends are awesome, don't diss! 🏴
Can we talk about the fact that the king was totally willing to let some random dude bang his wife for a *year* without the wife knowing and was surprised that he didn't?
Then again, despite having many conversations with him, the wife never realized her husband wasn't actually her husband and was completely fine with *not* sleeping with him for a year.
He was probably like "whatever, those are the hazards of the trade"
But yeah the fact no one noticed the trick is pretty unrealistic 😅
@@Valery0p5
Fairy magic
In that Days and Society, it was common for Guests to get this offer - not only as Kings. It was also up to the Women to accept this and the Guests Respect toward the Host(ess) (there the meaning of this in origin, y'know) to went on on this.
If you banged someone without asking his Partner (yes, both Genders - same Rules; disturbing, I know.... *sigh *) beforehand, this was not ok. But, not because "having intercourse with someone married to another" rather than "not respecting the other one by not asking".
"Sex" was something along "eating and drinking" and "Party hard" - and not too tight bound to the concept of marriage, which were focussed on the "supporting Role to each others Life" and "to be there to comfort them in Peril", so the practical and romantic Parts of a Relationship.
This story jumps so many sharks, yeah, you Idiot who somehow got lost in the underworld for no,apparent reason, I think you are totaly fit to rule my kingdom, with no knowlage of anything, cant imagine what could go wrong or how anyone could notice it is not me . . .
Its the parent trap thing.
“Pwyll ain’t afraid of no grievous bodily harm”
"Can't touch this!"
I'll use that next time. "I'm sorry Mrs. Johnson, I ate my homework in my sleep. All of it. Even the entire textbook."
"Sorry Wales baby"
Me: Its ok
Rhiannon probably could do those magic horse tricks because in older traditions she is described as the horse goddess, eqivalent of the irish Macha and the gaul Epona.
As you said, many gods in welsh (and actually in all celtic) mythology are portraid as humans who will become divine in the Otherworld
I've also heard she was sort of a moon goddess, and something about birds
@@rayykitsune5502 sweet, thanks!
wait...Epona.....Legend of Zelda...Links Horse?
No?????????????????????
Alice tully yeah, please tell me Nintendo didn't shamelessly rip off Gaul(ic?) mythology.
@@alicetully6825 Yes.
I love the picture of Rhiannon just casually holding the baby out in front of the window to shut the peasants up with one hand without even stopping reading her book. XD
(I *KNEW* YOU WERE GONNA END WITH THAT SONG! :D)
What's the song called?
@@lupinajefferson6337 “Rhiannon” by Fleetwood Mac if you can believe it
Pwyll:"It is I Pwyll"
Me:"Push?"
Pwyll:"No Pwyll"
Me:"Bush?"
Pwyll:"NO Pwyll"
Me:"Spell It."
Pwyll:"Ok Pwyll."
Me:"Oh so Pull!"
Pwyll:"NOOOO! You know what nvm I have monsters to fight."
Celtic names in a nutshell.
Gwywygywgwygwyywgnwynwgyn...
It's pronouced Jeff.
Puish would be the english spelling I think. Here's a link to an MP3 file: celtic.cmrs.ucla.edu/csana/pronunciation/pwyll_pendefig_dyfed.mp3
I know you're joking but that's not how Welsh phonology works at all
c4r151 were you talking to me or the Jeff comment there?
Would anyone else listen to like a playlist of Red singing to her guitar? Because I would listen to that.
You're preaching to the choir, buddy. Me too
YESSSSSS! She is such a god singer
Someone made one. They cut the songs out and put them up in a playlist.
@@Great_Olaf5 you don't happen to, uh, have that link, do you?
@@Arcanestatic just search "osp songs playlist" and you'll find one with all of the outros, if not the musical interludes. It's literally called "Red's covers "
I can't stop laughing at how outragous the whole missing baby thing. How the hell did everyone buy that baby eating story with no blood or anything there?
Oh there's blood, the nurses kill some dogs and smear the blood/gory bits in the crib and on rhiannon's face, and put some of the dogs' bones in the crib
@@adaritter9597 I am pretty sure it was a puppy
3:17 King Arawn came to the wedding :D
I seem to remember he actually brought Pwyll "otherworldly pigs" as a present, which become a plot point in the later parts. I am a tad miffed they were not illustrated. If this clip is missing something, it's certainly otherworldly pigs.
HE IN DISGUISED
@@forgalzz7 otherworldly pigs is by far the best combination of words I've ever heard
Holy crap! This is a mythological character that I wouldn't mind being involved with! His life is actually really good! Plus, he's not a dick, like 95% of the mythological people out there *coughZeuscough* so this one's an A in my book. Also the Prince of Egypt soundtrack in the background made my heart do funny things and also it's now playing on repeat in my head, so thanks.
I just wanted to say how Cool of a husband Pwyll was to Rhiannon when she was accused of eating their kid and how he called out the peoples BS when they wanted him to divorce her. (Also, screw those maids for lying)
In a version that I have, the maids killed a recently born puppy and used the blood to smear on Rhiannon's face & the crib, and I believe put the bones in crib. Screw them to the deepest layer of Hell!!!
@@evilcommunistpicklerick3175 jeezus, that even worse! SCREW THOSE MAIDS!!
I ship Pwyll & Rhiannon so hard.
How about Manawydan and Rhiannon?
Na, Rhyll forever!
Do you really have to? When it’s literally part of the story that they become a married couple and have children?
@@bibniebt
Shipping is literally just putting two or more people into a relationship cannon or not....
SHIP IT LIKE ITS FED EX BOI
For a moment a thought Pwyll was going to be like “ all I ask is to have anything I can carry in this bag” and then he would just shove his wife in the bag and runaway
And also he’d have to leave his own territory
Rhiannon: I didn’t eat the baby!
Tarrare: can’t relate
Lindsey Bernier
Tarrare ate a BABY what a mad lad. Like dude was so hungry he couldn’t settle for tendies and just ate a whole infant
An all-good story for the hero??? This sounds so idyllic :O
Andrea Pazzaglia hehehe... Read the sequel. It has lovely contrast....
EvilDMMk3
I see
Seems I have to prepare my sad stories reading part of my heart and mind
"Sir your wife is died"
"What how?!"
"Sir you ate her"
"......."
"......"
"Get out"
"But sir?"
"10 seconds to leave,
As a welsh person looking to find some representation of our history and stories and myth it is so incredible to find you have done a video on it!
These were really lovely stories with happy endings and likable characters. Not something you see much in mythology
The second I saw a P next to a W, I rejoiced because we're finally doing Welsh mythology!
Awsamazing Eden yep
Your mythology and country (presuming you are yourself welsh) is beautiful, but in all seriousness, your language can suck a fat one. - Sincerely, every Englishman ever.
LoZ Collector I am in fact not Welsh. I am just a huge fan of studying culture and mythology.
I get anxious living in England because the signs here dont have any Pw, Ll, Dd, or Ff on them.
Honestly, coming from a Welshman: the language isn't that bad
I howled and cackled at "I should've taken that left turn at Aberystwyth!"
Thank you for that
Holy crap! A Miscellaneous Myth that actually left me feeling happy inside??
I think it had to do with the fact that the women in the story were actually freaking respected lol
I'd say the Eros and Psyche Myth gets the happy feelings going pretty well too.
But yeah, the attitude towards women in this one is pretty refreshing.
Probably because this one didn't take place in Hellenic Greece.
"the women in the story were actually freaking respected"
Yeah, the Celts and Nordo-Germans were pretty cool that way.
Rhiannon's smug smile and death glare are my spirit animals.
Red's characterization of Rhiannon in the drawings is really fun.
*When the Welsh language is so severely butchered that people make puns that don't make sense when you pronounce the word right.*
Aliyah B.H. llanfairpwyllgwyngyllgogerwychwyndrobwllllantysulliogogogofuckyourself
Yeah but it's funny
Should we welsh our mouths out?
@@manamongmen3381 yes
I'm looking at the IPA and thinking it's supposed to be something like "pweesh", or maybe so easy on the hiss that it's almost "pweeh"?
2:17 Pwyll you glorius man i would die for a friend like that
I love the fact that Pwyll is completely chill and okay with everything. Riiiight up until his subjects start talking about him maybe divorcing his wife and suddenly FIRE.
This needs to be a movie
Yes it should turn into a movie
But not by Disney
They'll ruined it by turning it into a musical and change Pwyll's kind personality into a selfish jerk
Pwyll: All women...are queens! (Bonus points for the woman he didn’t sleep with actually being a queen.)
Gwawl if she breaths she's a thought
Fun fact: the guy Rhiannon was going to marry before pwyll was from Southern Scotland and might have been included as friendly rivalry with them
When Pwyll comes to shove, the moral of this myth is never to be tricked into willfully stepping into an enchanted bag that can hold an endless amount of food lest you desire to be swindled into losing your tremendously fast horse riding / possible baby eating wife.
Fuzzy Stripetail *Riahonnan screams in the distance*
PUNZ!!!
* badum tss * :P
I feel like the moral of this story is that winners win.
Try being a bro to everyone you meet, and see where it gets you.
This pun doesn’t actually work as you do not pronounce Ll as sh, think of the sound of a cat hissing and that’s basically it, also wy is pronounced oi so this further ruins the pun you attempted.
Yay, you're back, Red!😊
Hope the baddies from your behind-the-bookshelf adventure didn't follow you home!😊
Chug Chug Chug! As someone of Celtic and Norse ancestry, I can say this would have certainly happened.
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DROOP EVERYTHING AND WATCH !!!!!
Jetstream Snake me too!
droop snoot
This was SO Wholesome!!! Pwyll was such an adorable guy who respected people and promises -> didn't touch his friend's wife, protected his own wife, loved his son. Best man. Nice art and quirky speech yet again Red! One of my favourites so far
Pwyll' is an effing legend. We need more of him in, like, everything, dang it!
"Where's my baby?"
"You ate it"
"What? No I didn't!"
"Well, the baby IS gone..."
"They have a point, honey"
I love the `nowhere like home` sign at 4:34. Beautiful touch.