I’m surprised Sunflora dodged your list. Being a Pokémon who evolves from a stone, it normally takes a while to find one first and even then, you don’t want to do that immediately since it can only learn certain moves beforehand. You expect it to be worth it, right? Well, not this sunflower Pokémon. It’s stats barring Special Attack are horrendous, especially its Speed, and its not even worth wasting a stone. Bellossom might as well be mentioned too because it doesn’t even get the stat buff Vileplume gets in later gens. Great video btw, Emperor Cubone. :)
I mean, that Special Attack stat combined with two _god-tier_ abilities probably keeps it far away from the list. Chlorophyll with max Speed investment lets it contest with base 109 Speed mons in the sun. That's max Speed Kartana, for the uninitiated. And Solar Power cranks its meh damage output up to 11 and lets it, for example, OHKO max HP Garchomps with Solar Beam (though this is Specs in the sun, and it still _barely_ makes the guaranteed kill at ~103% min. Also watch out for Fire Blasts). Granted, there are a million mons that do what it does and more, but the likes of Ariados and Ledian aren't coming close to either of those feats.
Dont forget the worse gen 2 pokemon sun stone evos are from johto famous for low base stats overall and sunflora would be actually good if it wasnt so slow
Swoobat has simple. Combine that with calm mind and stored power, and you got yourself a powerful sweeper when timed correctly. Then you can also use a salac berry to help prevent the revenge kill. Maybe I’m being biased but I think Swoobat has more going for it than you think
Simple is hidden ability so you are normally not going to be using those strats outside of the bottom tiers of competitive, leaving you with Unaware, which is highly situational during an in game playthrough and Klutz which is just straight up bad.
neven patrk This video isn't really centered around in-game, and while Stored Power Calm Mind isn't enough to break it out of the lower tiers, it is still miles more threatening than Watchog
@@nevenpatrk9661 even in game, swoobat is far better than watchog lmao, it's faster and can still set up with calm mind also pure normal is awful so that doesn't help watchog in the slightest
@Galv Sparks On your point of it being a pure normal type, I'll be honest when I say I do not get why people say it's actually decent, since it's really not going by type match-ups alone. Normal is literally the most neutral type in the game, and while having only 1 weakness is nice, it really doesn't make up for the fact that it also has zero resistances and 1 immunity to complement it, thus it's not in my opinion a good defensive type. That being said, I will definitely agree that Swoobat isn't completely terrible thanks to the simple + calm mind + stored power combo people keep pointing out
Just had to point this out Araquanid actually hits harder than Golisopod if it's using a water move due to Water Bubble. It has a low attack stat in order to compensate for the ridiculous multiplier. Like how Huge/Pure Power mons have lower attack due to the buff
@@megascizor32 Detect has a niche over Protect in Doubles due to not being stopped by the Imprison/Protect combo. In doubles the lower PP usually doesn't matter, and while Imprison/Protect isn't too common it pops up every once in a while.
@@megascizor32 That's actually an incorrect statement on your part. Detect is actually preferable over protect if available because of imprison. Fewer pokemon carry detect so it means you're less likely to have your protective move disabled.
I actually chose Araquanid over Golisopod because of it’s ability water bubble ability on a water/bug type giving it more protection against fire types and the fact that it won’t switch out when it gets too low of hp, I hate abilities that do that because often causes me issues in battle
choosing Vivillon as the worst is a crazy move because that Pokemon is actually incredibly solid. Not only does it learn quiver dance, bug buzz, hurricane, and air slash by level up, but it also has access to the flying type. It also has compound eyes to boost its air slashes, hurricanes, and sleep powders up. It also gets rage powder and friend guard for doubles, making the pokemon an incredible support tool. Aromattise is far weaker than Vivillon
That's all fine and dandy until it dies in one hit to one of 5 common attacking types Edit: mind you I don't think it's the absolute worst. But it isn't "solid" It's useful in the bottom tier(s) only because of QD
@@1stCallipostle I could be wrong but I think what really holds this pokemon back is its speed. If Vivillon was faster it would be very powerful, cause then it could sleep powder, sub, QD all day and then bug buzz everything to death. unfortunately 89 speed doesn't really let it get the jump on much to get the sleep off
Remember. Shedinja with full EV investment MUST put a point into Special Attack, Defense, or Special Defense. Thankfully, Shedinja is irrc hardcoded to not gain HP evs, and loses whatever it has when evolving.
And shouldn't have been in this video. Shedinja is not an evolution of Nincada and I will die on this hill. It's a BYPRODUCT of Nincada's only evolution, but it's still a single stage.
Shedinja's defensive stats do actually come into play in a few niche scenarios, most notably if something Transforms into Shedinja due to the Pokemon keeping its HP upon transformation
@@captaindemozan2700 It's a byproduct of Nincada, *not* Ninjask, as it used to be part of Nincada's body, and you can't get it without evolving Nincada.
I really want the box legendary of an eventual main pokemon game to be part bug, both to blow away people's expectations with how powerful it could be and end bug type's reign of being the worst type.
Wasn't there a legendary bug robot that was better than the box legendary in gen 5. Bug isn't a bad typing. It just horrible offensive since alotresist it
After digesting the legendary bug idea, I thought of what it could represent. 300 million years ago, Earth was full of giant bugs. Today, the insect biomass outweighs that of all other animals. A legendary bug could represent biodiversity and the start of natural evolution. And because life started in water, and fish are also very biodiverse, bug/water would be an appropriate typing.
The powercreep over the gens really shines when it comes to stuff like Spidops. When your Route 1 'rodent' is nearing 500 BST, and several of the non-legendaries can be pretty overpowered, it makes Spidops' low stats shocking. The main thing going on is that it has a lot of entry hazards and a slow U-turn to get your teammates in safely, but that's it really. Also Vivillon actually has a use in CompoundEyes + Sleep Powder. Its the fastest Pokemon with an 'accurate' sleeping move with little drawbacks, making it potentially good support. Not much but hey.
Vivillon also gets access to quiver dance, which is one of the best boosting moves in the game and pretty much automatically makes most Pokemon that learn it at least a little bit better by proxy
Well, one thing that isn't mentioned in the video is that Spidops' signature move is a Protect that slows physical attackers, so that, with the other things you mentioned, might make it better than Wugtrio. Even if you make the case for Wugtrio having Gooey that also slows physical attackers, it already has higher speed than most of anything it will encounter and the fact that it actually has to get hit for the ability to activate along with Wugtrio's abysmals HP and Defense will most likely mean you only activate it once, while Spidops higher HP and defenses (but still not that great in general) and nature of a protection move means that it has way higher chances of surviving more than 1 turn and set up more debuffs/hazards for the enemy team.
@@tezminator I think Wugtrio is in fact the king of terrible this gen. Dugtrio's main use for 7 generations has been it's ability. Take that away and you have basically nothing.
Pykumuku being in the same sentence as luvdisc is insane. Pykumuku is an amazing wall and is fully capable of sweeping teams (and I’ve done it many times)
Props for being the first person I've ever heard pronounce Delibird's name in the way that acknowledges the pun within it This bird does not work in a deli
Frosmoth does have its HA saving it from being the weakest in Galar, imo. Ice Scales is a broken ability in a vacuum; halving the damage of all special attacks used against it. The combination of that, Quiver Dance, and a high Special Attack makes it able to eat some special hits, setup, and wreck house. I can't say the same for Thievul. Thievul's niche is... Unburden, I guess? The idea is to Nasty Plot up, activate an item, then deal damage with +2/+2. But Thievul not only has a lower Special Attack than Frosmoth, it also has a weaker offensive typing. And what item could it even use? Terrain seeds require a ton of external help from other mons - at that point, you might as well just start Baton chaining boosts onto it. Pinch berries require it to Sub up, which it finds hard to do reliably with its middling speed and poor bulk. And other stuff like Focus Sash, type berries, hit-by-a-type boosters, etc are also very inconsistent and usually rely on your opponent making certain moves - for Focus Sash specifically, one wrong tap (be it chip damage or an attack that barely misses OHKOing it) ruins the entire strategy. So basically, Thievul is trash while Frosmoth is decent-ish. I still would have liked Frosmoth to have Volcarona stats, though.
Yeah, Ice Scales is such a good ability that it's banned in Almost Any Ability (a Hackmons metagame where Pokémon are still restricted to their normal movepools, but like the name says, can have illegal abilities). Basically, it's thought that the ability is so good that it would be broken if Frosmoth didn't have such bad stats and typing.
viilvlon isn't thaaaaaaat bad. a set of quiver dance hurricane sleep powder and bug buz combined with the ability compound eyes can come in handy. hurricane is a very spammable move and this pokemon has STAB on it. edit: the compound eyes ability boosts your accuracy by 30%. this gives your hurricane 91% accuracy and your sleep powder 97.5%.
I'm sad that Delcatty has such horrible stats, because it's so cute, and one of my favorite Pokémon design wise. Wish it could be as op as it is in Mystery Dungeon.
Swoobat's speed coupled with Simple + Calm Mind + Stored Power makes it a monster of a Pokemon. With 1 Calm Mind you have a 100 BP STAB Psychic move coming off of 2x SpAtk.
I feel like Magcargo could be included in something like this. It's original stat total was only 410 which is even weaker than the route 1 Raticate, it also has 2 common quad weaknesses. Evolves at level 38 for some reason which is no excuse for how weak it is. And on top of that, in it's debut, it was only available in the post game, where you either already had a better fire type, or use the other post game fire in Houndoom which is way better than Magcargo. And sure Magcargo got it's stats buffed to 430 recently but that's nowhere near enough for it to be good.
swoobat, frosmoth, and vivillon arent that bad. They have utility that helps them get stronger such as with swoobat it has simple which is great on it especially with calm mind and stored power, vivillon has sleep powder, quiver dance, and hurricane, while frosmoth has ice scales which makes it really bulky actually and it had quiver dance which makes it scary to face against if you do a misplay
Hmm, it feels like abilities were ignored in this analysis. An obvious one to point out is Swoobat, given Simple is an ability that can easily run away with a game. But I think the biggest disagreeance I have with this list is Frosmoth. If you hone in on its physical weakness, I can understand that. But it has Ice Scales, an insane defensive ability coupled with its already decent SpDef. This thing has insane special bulk. In my own SwSh run, a slightly underleveled Frosmoth with this ability and an Assault Vest was able to tank Leon's G-Max Wildfire while Frosmoth was not dynamaxed. I remember being incredibly impressed with it from there onward. So I'd personally argue Thievul beats out Frosmoth as "wimpier."
In defense of frosmoth, with its hidden ability and quiver dance, its capable of not only tanking but absolutely demolishing others. That's without items being taken into account, such as the assault vest. While it has you forgo quiverdance and focus solely on offensive moves, it can practically tank nearly any special attack. Regardless of, its main concern are physical attacks.
Fin fact, ariados used to have the same BST as ledian until gen 7 where it got a measly +10 sp def buff and the signature move toxic thread while ledian didn’t even get anything.
Swoobat in my opinion is not that wimpy, one of it's abilities simple, doubles the power of Critical Hits and Stat Modification moves, with substitude,calm mind, stored power and some sort of coverage move, it sweeps
Fun fact about frosmoth. I use one competatively. It's not that bad honestly. Give it a timid nature, and irs hidden ability ice scales make it only 2x weak fire as long as it's a special attack. Heavy Duty Boots won't hurt it when it comes to stealth rock. Once Quiver dance us up it even sweeps rock types with giga Drain. It's a great pokemon actually of you use it right.
They should make Bug type Pokémon to appear in later GYMs so they can have stats of 530 so they can become better in battle like Volcarona and Cizor are.
All they really have to do is bring another type out and make it ALMOST op but give it a weakness to bug or retroactively give bug a strength to one of the most common types and they'd be much more viable even with their stats
Dude. Frosmoth has ice scales.. reduces special attacks damage by half. with that ability it can be a special tank. and with quiver dance and some solid coverage.. just keep it from rock n fire and you have a good mon.
It's a real shame; bug is my second favorite type after steel and they've got some real bangers: heracross, the scyther line, Lokix is one of my favorite mons from Scarlet and Violet. But to say nothing else, even the wimpiest bugs manage to (mostly) look cool.
Oh Heracross is easily in my top 10 Pokemon of all! And there are plenty of other cool ones like Vikavolt and Centiskorch, so it's got great potential.
Araquanid is pretty strong IMO, has good bulk and its signature ability water bubble turns Liquidation from an 85 base power to 170 BEFORE stab is applied so after stab applied its 255. It also has access to Lunge which wont hit that hard but should be decent chip damage while also making it a stronger physical wall
If they ever do 4 stage line they should really give it to a regional bug. It can have 3 quick evolutions like a standard bug, and then a 4th late in the game to bring its stats up to snuff. So that it's worth it to keep the bug around until the end.
You did my boy Kricketune dirty especially in the Burmy region. He has sword dance and sticky web. I brought one all the way against Cynthia in BDSP and he made Garchomp a snack.
Woobat was my first ever shiny Pokémon I caught in a play through so it’ll always have a special place in my heart. But I already liked it so it just boosted my adoration
Amazing work on the video as always Emperor Cubone! You’ve grown a LOT these past what? 2 years? I’ve been around since you had around 12-13k and next thing I know, you have 120k+! Congrats man! I’m so proud of how far you and your channel have come! Keep up the fantastic work!
HEY! This marks the second time you've put Haxorus in the thumbnail for a video about weaker pokemon! ('Who's the Weakest strongest pokemon?' was the other video) It was a relief to see he wasn't actually considered in the Unova region here, but he also belongs no where near the thumbnail for videos such as these! Leave the mono type dragon with a behemoth level attack stat alone! D:
I honestly didn't realize that, I certainly didn't mean to pidgeon-hole Haxorus as weak; I just put it here to be provocative since they clearly weren't wimps...
Beedrill is fantastic in Gen 1. It was a mainstay in my team in my Let's Play. 4x damage against Grass/Poison and 2x against Poison types? It's great against a lot of the trainers you'll face, especially if you don't want to bring Psychic types everywhere (for variety, of course)!
I used a trash team for HG and Ledian was absolutely useless compared to the other trash mons I expected Corsola and Magcargo to be bad but they helped out a ton thanks to their passable attacking stats paired with high powered moves like Surf and Flamethrower The team: Ledian Dunsparce Sunflora Magcargo Corsola Delibird
Parasect would have been completely broken in Gen 1 if it had a decent stat total focused on speed and special. Even more than Mewtwo. Spore is guaranteed to make a pokemon fall asleep. Imagine Parasect with an 80 or above speed and special stat with a move that guarantees you at least two free hits.
Not all, Pokémon have to be strong. Most of them are just wild animals and some animals in our world rely on other strategies different from fighting in order to survive.
The best "challenge" mode I've used is just not evolving Pokemon; it can be pretty fun, but harder than usual to just use a Magnemite or a Solosis for a whole game without the improved stats!
I am in my 30s and have been a Pokémon fan since literally the beginning. Yet I was still today years old when I learned that Delibird’s name is a pun for delivered. Holy crap.
Parasect is my favorite pokemon because it gets spore and false swipe. Late game, you can use it to start collecting all the pokemon for your pokedex without having to switch out as much
@@Compucles That's true, it's not for serious battles. But it can be one of the most useful in games where it receives these 2 moves. For something I'd never use on my team in gen 1, it's probably a poison type like arbok, muk, or weezing
Delelewoop is a sad Bug pkmn: Kicketot takes ages to evolve (where are my Lv. 7 cocoon pkmn in Sinnoh?) & becomes this underachieving bug that can hold its own against no other mons. Swoobat is a really nice Pkmn touse in BW until you get to the Desert Resort, where you can find Sigilyph.
Pretty cool video, it was fun to watch!!! But it also felt very surfaced level... Some spots just feel, weird¿ Like what do you mean Vivillon is bad that thing learns quiver dance. JDNCNSB
I'm surprised Araquanid made your list. I probably have a bit of a bias though, as Araquanid is one of my favorite Bugs (in spite of my real life arachnophobia). I built a competitive team in Pokemon Shield to center around Dracozolt, and Araquanid was added to it purely because of its physical bulk and utility. WIth max Defense and max HP holding Leftovers, this thing was super hard for people to take down. Moveset was Sticky Web, Infestation, Liquidation, and Lunge. It would lock and wall potential threats, keeping its HP up with Lefties and Lunge. By the time it was taken out, my bigger threats like Togekiss, Galarian Darmanitan, and Dracozolt were primed and ready to sweep. I don't think Araquanid deserves to be on this list, but that's just me. I found massive success with it. I love my Bubble Buddy!
Araquanid was _considered_ on his list, but was ultimately out-badded by Shiinotic. Who, as he pointed out, is the only actually bad fully evolved mon from Gen 7.
@@emperorcubone lol😭... love your little takes ,u should definitely do video essays (longer videos ) I feel like your sense of humour plus your unique takeaways would really hit it off plus you have a awesome voice really asmry and podcast -esque if that makes sense 👍
Hah, it's funny you say that, just on Sunday my friends told me I should record for audio books or something because of my voice. I might have to try a long essay format at some point!
This makes me wonder what Pokémon have the biggest evolution upgrades. Not even as a base form to final evolution change, just what Pokémon gets the biggest upgrade from evolving from it’s current form to the next
Araquanid shouldn't have been mentioned in this list because of it's amazing ability water bubble. hitting 2x as hard with any water attack, a fire resistance and immunity to burn is wild. Easily my fav mon to use for sticky webs as you can put a splash plate on and do great damage while switcing in to any scalds without worry
As a bug type lover, I love frosmoth, but yeah, it's bad, lol. It's best trick is being a little tanker than usual against special attacks. Pair it with Alolan Ninetales, and give it Ice Scales+Assault Best, and you have a tough support offense that can even tank a 4x flamethrower sometimes!
Wow this johto list makes me realize that it was totally forgotten about. When was the last time a Ledyba/Ledian or a Sentret/Furret was even in a game. I in no way remembered these until I saw them just now
Are you gonna be continuing the scarlet/violet let's play? I honestly was worried when I saw Nidoqueen. It became one of my favorite moon stone evos during a let's go eevee where it tanked through Surge and Erika
Gotta respect the Nidos, they're both really good. Nidoking is even used in speedruns since it can evolve early as abuse the effect of x accuracy making it's horn drill never miss due to a bug. But really, it's pretty hard to go wrong with either one
Ledian was always one of the cooler looking bugs and it was such a let down to see such A W E F U L stats on it. I tried doing a Bug nuzlocke and wanted to use one as my "starter". Oof. Having never actually used one before I wasn't ready for how weak it actually is. Even with max defense/HP or speed and attack it can't DO anything. Set up? Not fast enough, can't take a hit. Outspeed and chip? Not even worth it 🫤 Worst Power Ranger bug ever 🙄
When it has Dry Skin poor Parasect is basically 5x weak to fire. I hope some day it gets redeemed with a bug/ghost evolution based on cordyceps, or something cool like that
I’m not sure I agree with the Swoobat pick. I think you left out an important factor which is Simple+Calm Mind=Murder. A Nasty Plot and an Amnesia in 1 turn with its unnecessary speed and a Life Orb with Stored Power… all I can say is don’t sleep on the swoo
I had okay luck with Compound Eyes Vivillon with Hurricane, Sleep Powder, Quiver Dance, and Bug Buzz... but yeah, it's still pretty weak. Meanwhile Swoobat: is a special attacker. Also Swoobat: gets a physical signature move with low base power Wugtrio has the same stats as Dugtrio, but the fact that it's really fragile and has an ability that slows an opponent when it gets hit, despite not needing a speed advantage, makes it pretty bad.
Kriketune in bd has pulled his weight on my play through literally one shotting alakazams and other threats i was pleasantly suprised. I wasn’t even leaving it on the team but it helped with two early gyms and I would have felt guilty cutting him lose
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One of the funniest thing about BST is that,Munchlax, the Baby Pokémon, has higher stats that an bunch of fully evolved ones ( It has 390)
Munchlax is the best baby!
@@emperorcubone I'd argue Riolu is.
@@martinpiekarski1512 of course you would Martin
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@@martinpiekarski1512 I mean I'd argue Cleffa is but Munchlax still has a higher bst lol
I’m surprised Sunflora dodged your list. Being a Pokémon who evolves from a stone, it normally takes a while to find one first and even then, you don’t want to do that immediately since it can only learn certain moves beforehand. You expect it to be worth it, right? Well, not this sunflower Pokémon. It’s stats barring Special Attack are horrendous, especially its Speed, and its not even worth wasting a stone. Bellossom might as well be mentioned too because it doesn’t even get the stat buff Vileplume gets in later gens. Great video btw, Emperor Cubone. :)
That's true, using up the stone is a hard hit when other better Pokemon could use it instead...
Sunflora does great. For having to evolve from Sunkern. The weakest Pokemon, at one point.
I mean, that Special Attack stat combined with two _god-tier_ abilities probably keeps it far away from the list.
Chlorophyll with max Speed investment lets it contest with base 109 Speed mons in the sun. That's max Speed Kartana, for the uninitiated. And Solar Power cranks its meh damage output up to 11 and lets it, for example, OHKO max HP Garchomps with Solar Beam (though this is Specs in the sun, and it still _barely_ makes the guaranteed kill at ~103% min. Also watch out for Fire Blasts).
Granted, there are a million mons that do what it does and more, but the likes of Ariados and Ledian aren't coming close to either of those feats.
@@christiancinnabars1402 So it’s good if it had a lot of support is what your saying
Dont forget the worse gen 2 pokemon sun stone evos are from johto famous for low base stats overall and sunflora would be actually good if it wasnt so slow
Is it bad that ledian, delcatty, swoobat and frosmoth are my favourites from that region? Wimpy squad roll out 😂
No, you can like what you want, unless it's illegal. So toss out Ledian and the rest are fine
There's no rule that says your favorite Pokémon has to be strong
Ledian goes so hard
@@Badman903 GS chronicles made me realise what potential ledian has if they buffed him
Haha, well I like Frosmoth too, that's how I knew its wimpiness firsthand, so it's not all bad to like those Pokemon...
Swoobat has simple. Combine that with calm mind and stored power, and you got yourself a powerful sweeper when timed correctly. Then you can also use a salac berry to help prevent the revenge kill. Maybe I’m being biased but I think Swoobat has more going for it than you think
Simple is hidden ability so you are normally not going to be using those strats outside of the bottom tiers of competitive, leaving you with Unaware, which is highly situational during an in game playthrough and Klutz which is just straight up bad.
neven patrk This video isn't really centered around in-game, and while Stored Power Calm Mind isn't enough to break it out of the lower tiers, it is still miles more threatening than Watchog
@@nevenpatrk9661 even in game, swoobat is far better than watchog lmao, it's faster and can still set up with calm mind also pure normal is awful so that doesn't help watchog in the slightest
I was just going to say this
@Galv Sparks On your point of it being a pure normal type, I'll be honest when I say I do not get why people say it's actually decent, since it's really not going by type match-ups alone. Normal is literally the most neutral type in the game, and while having only 1 weakness is nice, it really doesn't make up for the fact that it also has zero resistances and 1 immunity to complement it, thus it's not in my opinion a good defensive type. That being said, I will definitely agree that Swoobat isn't completely terrible thanks to the simple + calm mind + stored power combo people keep pointing out
Just had to point this out
Araquanid actually hits harder than Golisopod if it's using a water move due to Water Bubble. It has a low attack stat in order to compensate for the ridiculous multiplier. Like how Huge/Pure Power mons have lower attack due to the buff
Yeah oversight by him. Also he said detect was a useful move when it has no competitive use over protect
@@megascizor32 Detect has a niche over Protect in Doubles due to not being stopped by the Imprison/Protect combo. In doubles the lower PP usually doesn't matter, and while Imprison/Protect isn't too common it pops up every once in a while.
@Swordgon imprison users are decently common in the current format
@@megascizor32 That's actually an incorrect statement on your part. Detect is actually preferable over protect if available because of imprison. Fewer pokemon carry detect so it means you're less likely to have your protective move disabled.
I actually chose Araquanid over Golisopod because of it’s ability water bubble ability on a water/bug type giving it more protection against fire types and the fact that it won’t switch out when it gets too low of hp, I hate abilities that do that because often causes me issues in battle
choosing Vivillon as the worst is a crazy move because that Pokemon is actually incredibly solid. Not only does it learn quiver dance, bug buzz, hurricane, and air slash by level up, but it also has access to the flying type. It also has compound eyes to boost its air slashes, hurricanes, and sleep powders up. It also gets rage powder and friend guard for doubles, making the pokemon an incredible support tool. Aromattise is far weaker than Vivillon
That's all fine and dandy until it dies in one hit to one of 5 common attacking types
Edit: mind you I don't think it's the absolute worst. But it isn't "solid"
It's useful in the bottom tier(s) only because of QD
@@1stCallipostle I could be wrong but I think what really holds this pokemon back is its speed. If Vivillon was faster it would be very powerful, cause then it could sleep powder, sub, QD all day and then bug buzz everything to death. unfortunately 89 speed doesn't really let it get the jump on much to get the sleep off
I concurr
Just remember, if you ever feel useless, Shedinja has defense stats
Remember.
Shedinja with full EV investment MUST put a point into Special Attack, Defense, or Special Defense.
Thankfully, Shedinja is irrc hardcoded to not gain HP evs, and loses whatever it has when evolving.
And shouldn't have been in this video. Shedinja is not an evolution of Nincada and I will die on this hill. It's a BYPRODUCT of Nincada's only evolution, but it's still a single stage.
Shedinja's defensive stats do actually come into play in a few niche scenarios, most notably if something Transforms into Shedinja due to the Pokemon keeping its HP upon transformation
@@captaindemozan2700 still technically an evolution as it retains stats and move set
@@captaindemozan2700 It's a byproduct of Nincada, *not* Ninjask, as it used to be part of Nincada's body, and you can't get it without evolving Nincada.
I really want the box legendary of an eventual main pokemon game to be part bug, both to blow away people's expectations with how powerful it could be and end bug type's reign of being the worst type.
Bug type would still be the worst, it'd just be a good mon despite its typing like volcarona or tyranitar
Honestly, that would be awesome! Half the reason Dragon's stat average is so high is because of all the Legends it has, so that could help Bug a lot!
Wasn't there a legendary bug robot that was better than the box legendary in gen 5.
Bug isn't a bad typing. It just horrible offensive since alotresist it
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And pseudo legends, and Pokémon that are basically pseudo legends but not considered as such
After digesting the legendary bug idea, I thought of what it could represent. 300 million years ago, Earth was full of giant bugs. Today, the insect biomass outweighs that of all other animals. A legendary bug could represent biodiversity and the start of natural evolution. And because life started in water, and fish are also very biodiverse, bug/water would be an appropriate typing.
The powercreep over the gens really shines when it comes to stuff like Spidops. When your Route 1 'rodent' is nearing 500 BST, and several of the non-legendaries can be pretty overpowered, it makes Spidops' low stats shocking. The main thing going on is that it has a lot of entry hazards and a slow U-turn to get your teammates in safely, but that's it really.
Also Vivillon actually has a use in CompoundEyes + Sleep Powder. Its the fastest Pokemon with an 'accurate' sleeping move with little drawbacks, making it potentially good support. Not much but hey.
Vivillon also gets access to quiver dance, which is one of the best boosting moves in the game and pretty much automatically makes most Pokemon that learn it at least a little bit better by proxy
Well, one thing that isn't mentioned in the video is that Spidops' signature move is a Protect that slows physical attackers, so that, with the other things you mentioned, might make it better than Wugtrio. Even if you make the case for Wugtrio having Gooey that also slows physical attackers, it already has higher speed than most of anything it will encounter and the fact that it actually has to get hit for the ability to activate along with Wugtrio's abysmals HP and Defense will most likely mean you only activate it once, while Spidops higher HP and defenses (but still not that great in general) and nature of a protection move means that it has way higher chances of surviving more than 1 turn and set up more debuffs/hazards for the enemy team.
@@tezminator I think Wugtrio is in fact the king of terrible this gen.
Dugtrio's main use for 7 generations has been it's ability.
Take that away and you have basically nothing.
Pykumuku being in the same sentence as luvdisc is insane. Pykumuku is an amazing wall and is fully capable of sweeping teams (and I’ve done it many times)
Yup, lil buddy carried me on battle tree from sun, they tought me that attacking moves aren't everything
Props for being the first person I've ever heard pronounce Delibird's name in the way that acknowledges the pun within it
This bird does not work in a deli
To be fair I feel like most people just don't think about this Pokemon long enough to even notice...
There's also a type of penguin called an adelie, which is pronounced like deli.
Dang I never got it til right now 😂
Vivillon is actually saved by it's accuracy boosting ability. Quiver dance + Hurricane is a deadly combination when it hits 100% of the time
You’re sleeping on frosmoth! It’s ability ice scales definitely helps it out a lot
Frosmoth does have its HA saving it from being the weakest in Galar, imo. Ice Scales is a broken ability in a vacuum; halving the damage of all special attacks used against it. The combination of that, Quiver Dance, and a high Special Attack makes it able to eat some special hits, setup, and wreck house.
I can't say the same for Thievul. Thievul's niche is... Unburden, I guess? The idea is to Nasty Plot up, activate an item, then deal damage with +2/+2. But Thievul not only has a lower Special Attack than Frosmoth, it also has a weaker offensive typing. And what item could it even use? Terrain seeds require a ton of external help from other mons - at that point, you might as well just start Baton chaining boosts onto it. Pinch berries require it to Sub up, which it finds hard to do reliably with its middling speed and poor bulk. And other stuff like Focus Sash, type berries, hit-by-a-type boosters, etc are also very inconsistent and usually rely on your opponent making certain moves - for Focus Sash specifically, one wrong tap (be it chip damage or an attack that barely misses OHKOing it) ruins the entire strategy.
So basically, Thievul is trash while Frosmoth is decent-ish.
I still would have liked Frosmoth to have Volcarona stats, though.
Yeah, Ice Scales is such a good ability that it's banned in Almost Any Ability (a Hackmons metagame where Pokémon are still restricted to their normal movepools, but like the name says, can have illegal abilities). Basically, it's thought that the ability is so good that it would be broken if Frosmoth didn't have such bad stats and typing.
viilvlon isn't thaaaaaaat bad.
a set of quiver dance hurricane sleep powder and bug buz combined with the ability compound eyes can come in handy.
hurricane is a very spammable move and this pokemon has STAB on it.
edit: the compound eyes ability boosts your accuracy by 30%.
this gives your hurricane 91% accuracy and your sleep powder 97.5%.
Also a very missable move
You're not wrong; it's not the worst ever, but compared to the rest of the new Gen 6 Pokemon it comes up pretty wimpy...
@@cornonjacob compound eyes boosts your accuracy by 30%.
that means that hurricane has an accuracy of 91%.
Yep I run this set. Compound eye it saving grace.
@@videakias3000 and sleep powder is more guarantee as well.
I'm sad that Delcatty has such horrible stats, because it's so cute, and one of my favorite Pokémon design wise. Wish it could be as op as it is in Mystery Dungeon.
My favorite Delcatty ever is Nugget Bud from Blast Burn Radio… they gave it Thunderbolt and Ice Beam from the Game Corner and it still died
Swoobat's speed coupled with Simple + Calm Mind + Stored Power makes it a monster of a Pokemon. With 1 Calm Mind you have a 100 BP STAB Psychic move coming off of 2x SpAtk.
And after gen 8 swoobat gets Nasty plot, getting all that boost into SpA
I feel like Magcargo could be included in something like this. It's original stat total was only 410 which is even weaker than the route 1 Raticate, it also has 2 common quad weaknesses. Evolves at level 38 for some reason which is no excuse for how weak it is. And on top of that, in it's debut, it was only available in the post game, where you either already had a better fire type, or use the other post game fire in Houndoom which is way better than Magcargo. And sure Magcargo got it's stats buffed to 430 recently but that's nowhere near enough for it to be good.
swoobat, frosmoth, and vivillon arent that bad. They have utility that helps them get stronger such as with swoobat it has simple which is great on it especially with calm mind and stored power, vivillon has sleep powder, quiver dance, and hurricane, while frosmoth has ice scales which makes it really bulky actually and it had quiver dance which makes it scary to face against if you do a misplay
Hmm, it feels like abilities were ignored in this analysis. An obvious one to point out is Swoobat, given Simple is an ability that can easily run away with a game. But I think the biggest disagreeance I have with this list is Frosmoth. If you hone in on its physical weakness, I can understand that. But it has Ice Scales, an insane defensive ability coupled with its already decent SpDef. This thing has insane special bulk. In my own SwSh run, a slightly underleveled Frosmoth with this ability and an Assault Vest was able to tank Leon's G-Max Wildfire while Frosmoth was not dynamaxed. I remember being incredibly impressed with it from there onward. So I'd personally argue Thievul beats out Frosmoth as "wimpier."
In defense of frosmoth, with its hidden ability and quiver dance, its capable of not only tanking but absolutely demolishing others. That's without items being taken into account, such as the assault vest. While it has you forgo quiverdance and focus solely on offensive moves, it can practically tank nearly any special attack. Regardless of, its main concern are physical attacks.
Fin fact, ariados used to have the same BST as ledian until gen 7 where it got a measly +10 sp def buff and the signature move toxic thread while ledian didn’t even get anything.
Swoobat’s abilities combined with its speed and movepool do give it a couple of genuinely fun and hilarious setup gimmicks.
so no one gonna talk about what the unowns spell out at 2:54? 🤨
🤣🤣🤣 that's awesome
I still love Kricketune. My first shiny when I was a kid. Dadadada WHOOOOP!
Spidops has a good ability. If they put an ability that punishes switching out on a pokemon with better stats that would be really good.
I would love to see a video with the top 6 best and worst T m's in generation 9. Although, that may have to wait until after the DLC…
Or top new signature move
@@Watch-0w1 If there are enough new signature moves then maybe a top 6 best and worst new signature moves or top 6 best signature moves?
The ability to Tera would help Parasect, but unfortunately, I don’t think it’ll be in the DLC. I hope I’m wrong though because the design is so good!
Swoobat in my opinion is not that wimpy, one of it's abilities simple, doubles the power of Critical Hits and Stat Modification moves, with substitude,calm mind, stored power and some sort of coverage move, it sweeps
Fun fact about frosmoth. I use one competatively. It's not that bad honestly. Give it a timid nature, and irs hidden ability ice scales make it only 2x weak fire as long as it's a special attack. Heavy Duty Boots won't hurt it when it comes to stealth rock. Once Quiver dance us up it even sweeps rock types with giga Drain. It's a great pokemon actually of you use it right.
It's also 4X weak to rock (I know Tera helps a lot with that)
I love your content so much. This was creative and really good!
420 stats and those big red eyes!?!?! They must have know what they were doing hahaha
They should make Bug type Pokémon to appear in later GYMs so they can have stats of 530 so they can become better in battle like Volcarona and Cizor are.
All they really have to do is bring another type out and make it ALMOST op but give it a weakness to bug or retroactively give bug a strength to one of the most common types and they'd be much more viable even with their stats
@@javiervalenzuela8284 just make is so bug is super effective against fairy and resists it as well
The fact you picked Swoobat and Frosmoth is crazy to me.
Poor Kricketune! Such a unique, classy (because of that legendary mustache), and hysterical design (because of mustache)
Dude. Frosmoth has ice scales.. reduces special attacks damage by half. with that ability it can be a special tank. and with quiver dance and some solid coverage.. just keep it from rock n fire and you have a good mon.
2:56 dont worry I got it, fellow man of culture.
It's a real shame; bug is my second favorite type after steel and they've got some real bangers: heracross, the scyther line, Lokix is one of my favorite mons from Scarlet and Violet.
But to say nothing else, even the wimpiest bugs manage to (mostly) look cool.
Oh Heracross is easily in my top 10 Pokemon of all! And there are plenty of other cool ones like Vikavolt and Centiskorch, so it's got great potential.
But type isn't bad typing. Offensive they horrible but defensive pretty good. It resist ground and fighting , two most popular offesive
Furret is my main in Crystal. Ice Punch/Rollout/Amnesia/Defense Curl was Arley's moveset
as a self proclaimed bug specialist... this video hurts. A couple of my favorite pokemon are on here.
I just did a Heart Gold play through with an Arbok.
It was beastly 💪🏻
I remember that the parasect was the 2nd Alpha I saw in Arceus and I couldn't help thinking that I just came across Pokemon's top wimp.
Also, Spidops is genuinely one of my favorite new mons out of Paldea. It’s just a cool all around Poké to me
Me too. I loved it so much I kept it on my play through team despite its low BST
@@zinniaq3020 so did I, it was still definitely useful despite its low total
It shiny is awesome along with klawf.
@@michaelcollazo7911 absolutely agree
swoobat has Simple to double its special attack and special defense in one turn with Calm Mind, and then sweep with STAB Stored Power
respect my bat 🙏
Araquanid is pretty strong IMO, has good bulk and its signature ability water bubble turns Liquidation from an 85 base power to 170 BEFORE stab is applied so after stab applied its 255. It also has access to Lunge which wont hit that hard but should be decent chip damage while also making it a stronger physical wall
That water spider was actually a good challenge in the island challenge though, even if nothing compared to wishiwashi.
If they ever do 4 stage line they should really give it to a regional bug. It can have 3 quick evolutions like a standard bug, and then a 4th late in the game to bring its stats up to snuff. So that it's worth it to keep the bug around until the end.
How funny would it be if they ONLY added 4th stages to lesser Pokemon and none of the usual ones like Charizard, Gengar, etc...?
You did my boy Kricketune dirty especially in the Burmy region.
He has sword dance and sticky web. I brought one all the way against Cynthia in BDSP and he made Garchomp a snack.
Woobat was my first ever shiny Pokémon I caught in a play through so it’ll always have a special place in my heart. But I already liked it so it just boosted my adoration
Amazing work on the video as always Emperor Cubone! You’ve grown a LOT these past what? 2 years? I’ve been around since you had around 12-13k and next thing I know, you have 120k+! Congrats man! I’m so proud of how far you and your channel have come! Keep up the fantastic work!
HEY! This marks the second time you've put Haxorus in the thumbnail for a video about weaker pokemon! ('Who's the Weakest strongest pokemon?' was the other video)
It was a relief to see he wasn't actually considered in the Unova region here, but he also belongs no where near the thumbnail for videos such as these! Leave the mono type dragon with a behemoth level attack stat alone! D:
I honestly didn't realize that, I certainly didn't mean to pidgeon-hole Haxorus as weak; I just put it here to be provocative since they clearly weren't wimps...
It is the first time ever that I see this mushroom from gen 7 (which I don't even know the name), never heard of it anywhere.
Beedrill is fantastic in Gen 1. It was a mainstay in my team in my Let's Play.
4x damage against Grass/Poison and 2x against Poison types? It's great against a lot of the trainers you'll face, especially if you don't want to bring Psychic types everywhere (for variety, of course)!
Thump nails like that are gonna get you in trouble insulting haxorus like that 😂
Swoobat has simple, calm mind, and good coverage
I guess you can say evolution is here to make you stronger but not the best
Pretty much; it is an improvement, but not a for sure way to come out on top.
Swoobat has simple, nasty plot and stored power. It is not the wimp of gen 5
Ok but we're all guilty of using a trash Pokemon because their cool.
I just think they're neat! 😄
I used a trash team for HG and Ledian was absolutely useless compared to the other trash mons I expected Corsola and Magcargo to be bad but they helped out a ton thanks to their passable attacking stats paired with high powered moves like Surf and Flamethrower
The team:
Ledian
Dunsparce
Sunflora
Magcargo
Corsola
Delibird
Ledian can't even find success against Karen despite it's Bug and Fighting moves
Oh for sure, I use underwhelming Pokemon all the time. I sometimes even DON'T evolve them on purpose!
Swoobat have some pretty good sweep potentials with simples + setup moves + stored power
jumpluff is goat ! ( commented) before watching.) My boy better be number one
Parasect would have been completely broken in Gen 1 if it had a decent stat total focused on speed and special. Even more than Mewtwo.
Spore is guaranteed to make a pokemon fall asleep. Imagine Parasect with an 80 or above speed and special stat with a move that guarantees you at least two free hits.
Not all, Pokémon have to be strong. Most of them are just wild animals and some animals in our world rely on other strategies different from fighting in order to survive.
True, and that's why certain ones like Watchog avoided the hammer, but plenty more animals are just wimps...
With how easy the games are these days, I go out of my way to use the Bug types. It’s the only way to present any sort of a challenge
The best "challenge" mode I've used is just not evolving Pokemon; it can be pretty fun, but harder than usual to just use a Magnemite or a Solosis for a whole game without the improved stats!
I am in my 30s and have been a Pokémon fan since literally the beginning. Yet I was still today years old when I learned that Delibird’s name is a pun for delivered. Holy crap.
Parasect is my favorite pokemon because it gets spore and false swipe. Late game, you can use it to start collecting all the pokemon for your pokedex without having to switch out as much
That doesn't make it any less wimpy in serious battles. These are the *wimpiest* Pokémon, not the most useless ones.
@@Compucles That's true, it's not for serious battles. But it can be one of the most useful in games where it receives these 2 moves. For something I'd never use on my team in gen 1, it's probably a poison type like arbok, muk, or weezing
Spidops in the "bugs I hate" part lel
since gen 6 I wanted a bug \ fighting mega ledian so badly. it goes perfectly with its mach punch and comet punch combined with tecnichan
Or the Iron Fist ability that it also has; they really wanted it to be punch related, but didn't give it any power behind those punches...
I couldn't imagine the chiropractor bills Pokemon like Volcarona and Scizor have from carrying bug types so unbelievably hard
Delelewoop is a sad Bug pkmn: Kicketot takes ages to evolve (where are my Lv. 7 cocoon pkmn in Sinnoh?) & becomes this underachieving bug that can hold its own against no other mons.
Swoobat is a really nice Pkmn touse in BW until you get to the Desert Resort, where you can find Sigilyph.
Not to mention in Gen 4 Kricketot really only had Bide which it couldn't even survive to use, so it was even harder to evolve under its own power...
Pretty cool video, it was fun to watch!!!
But it also felt very surfaced level... Some spots just feel, weird¿
Like what do you mean Vivillon is bad that thing learns quiver dance. JDNCNSB
I was at the comment section ready to defend my girl nidoqueen... but I'm glad I stood corrected
Nah, that was just to be provocative in the thumbnail...
You weren't the only one...
Shedinja got banned from National Dex OU on Showdown due to terastalization both Electric and Ground.
I'm surprised Araquanid made your list. I probably have a bit of a bias though, as Araquanid is one of my favorite Bugs (in spite of my real life arachnophobia). I built a competitive team in Pokemon Shield to center around Dracozolt, and Araquanid was added to it purely because of its physical bulk and utility. WIth max Defense and max HP holding Leftovers, this thing was super hard for people to take down. Moveset was Sticky Web, Infestation, Liquidation, and Lunge. It would lock and wall potential threats, keeping its HP up with Lefties and Lunge. By the time it was taken out, my bigger threats like Togekiss, Galarian Darmanitan, and Dracozolt were primed and ready to sweep. I don't think Araquanid deserves to be on this list, but that's just me. I found massive success with it. I love my Bubble Buddy!
Araquanid was _considered_ on his list, but was ultimately out-badded by Shiinotic. Who, as he pointed out, is the only actually bad fully evolved mon from Gen 7.
@@christiancinnabars1402 man, we just collectively decided to forget that gumshoos exists
I love your vids
Thank you! You have excellent taste!
They all need some anchor arms..
Gamefreak hated Aromatisse because they are jealous that it's design came out more fabulous that they can ever hope to be 💅
That is a funny joke.
The title of this video should be roasting bug types for sport 😭
People have been doing that for decades!
@@emperorcubone lol😭... love your little takes ,u should definitely do video essays (longer videos ) I feel like your sense of humour plus your unique takeaways would really hit it off plus you have a awesome voice really asmry and podcast -esque if that makes sense 👍
Hah, it's funny you say that, just on Sunday my friends told me I should record for audio books or something because of my voice. I might have to try a long essay format at some point!
This makes me wonder what Pokémon have the biggest evolution upgrades. Not even as a base form to final evolution change, just what Pokémon gets the biggest upgrade from evolving from it’s current form to the next
Ironically I think it might be Sunkern; even though Sunflora is not a great evolution it more than doubles all of Sunkern's pitiful stats...
@@emperorcubone That would be an interesting twist for Sunkern to win at something positive for once lol
Araquanid shouldn't have been mentioned in this list because of it's amazing ability water bubble. hitting 2x as hard with any water attack, a fire resistance and immunity to burn is wild. Easily my fav mon to use for sticky webs as you can put a splash plate on and do great damage while switcing in to any scalds without worry
As a bug type lover, I love frosmoth, but yeah, it's bad, lol. It's best trick is being a little tanker than usual against special attacks. Pair it with Alolan Ninetales, and give it Ice Scales+Assault Best, and you have a tough support offense that can even tank a 4x flamethrower sometimes!
Gonna say Charizard, Gengar, and Golbat are the wimpiest final evolved pokémon. Not like I picked those pokémon to infuriate people or anything.
Strong, evolved pokemon. Proceeds to show bouffalant.
I love delcatty, swoobat, delibird, smeargle, shiinotic, and luvdisc
Beedrill: I was a wimp before Mega Evolution. Now I'm (was) a jerk and everybody loves me!
Kartana technically (ik ik just please play along)
He can for sure dish it out but cant take it back, a true wimp
What the actual I've never realized Delibird went that hard.
Gollisopod litterally escapes when it gets too hurt
Wow this johto list makes me realize that it was totally forgotten about. When was the last time a Ledyba/Ledian or a Sentret/Furret was even in a game. I in no way remembered these until I saw them just now
I think Ledyba was in Sun and Moon at least? But nobody's gonna use it when they have Grubbin and Pikipek instead...
Are you gonna be continuing the scarlet/violet let's play?
I honestly was worried when I saw Nidoqueen. It became one of my favorite moon stone evos during a let's go eevee where it tanked through Surge and Erika
Gotta respect the Nidos, they're both really good. Nidoking is even used in speedruns since it can evolve early as abuse the effect of x accuracy making it's horn drill never miss due to a bug. But really, it's pretty hard to go wrong with either one
Swoobat is actually pretty good. Simple + nasty plot is so good
So no one is gonna talk about 2:55 ? With the unown?
"Who is the whimpiest Pokémon"
(Haxorus, an absolute powerhouse, in the thumbnail)
Clickbait at it's finest
Ledian was always one of the cooler looking bugs and it was such a let down to see such A W E F U L stats on it. I tried doing a Bug nuzlocke and wanted to use one as my "starter". Oof. Having never actually used one before I wasn't ready for how weak it actually is. Even with max defense/HP or speed and attack it can't DO anything. Set up? Not fast enough, can't take a hit. Outspeed and chip? Not even worth it 🫤 Worst Power Ranger bug ever 🙄
When it has Dry Skin poor Parasect is basically 5x weak to fire.
I hope some day it gets redeemed with a bug/ghost evolution based on cordyceps, or something cool like that
I’m not sure I agree with the Swoobat pick. I think you left out an important factor which is Simple+Calm Mind=Murder. A Nasty Plot and an Amnesia in 1 turn with its unnecessary speed and a Life Orb with Stored Power… all I can say is don’t sleep on the swoo
Dog I read the title and I thought you were talking about physical appearance and first thing that came to mind was pansear
6:28 "Strong evolved Pokémon" shows Boufallant
I had okay luck with Compound Eyes Vivillon with Hurricane, Sleep Powder, Quiver Dance, and Bug Buzz... but yeah, it's still pretty weak.
Meanwhile Swoobat: is a special attacker.
Also Swoobat: gets a physical signature move with low base power
Wugtrio has the same stats as Dugtrio, but the fact that it's really fragile and has an ability that slows an opponent when it gets hit, despite not needing a speed advantage, makes it pretty bad.
1:15 to the point where I straight up called my butterfree in my Blue playthrough "Peak Early"
Kriketune in bd has pulled his weight on my play through literally one shotting alakazams and other threats i was pleasantly suprised. I wasn’t even leaving it on the team but it helped with two early gyms and I would have felt guilty cutting him lose