Fixing Gen 5's Worst Pokemon

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  • Опубликовано: 27 апр 2024
  • A brand new era. That was the way many felt about Generation 5. After all, there are many things about these games that make it feel like a completely refreshing experience. For one, it introduced what is to this day the largest batch of new Pokemon, being an astounding 156 - a number that shares a suspicious similarity to the 151 released back in Red and Blue, with many having similar roles to those in the Kanto games. However, Gen 5 also brought along another less appreciated aspect of the Gen 1 Pokedex: a sizable group of underwhelming and pretty forgettable duds. Since Gen 5 is my personal favorite generation, let’s fix Gen 5’s most forgotten Pokemon…
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  • @RinRinYikes
    @RinRinYikes 2 месяца назад +314

    "Mom how bad did power creep get" "someone gave maractus quiver dance as a buff in a video and called it a subtle moveset change"

    • @ffreeze9924
      @ffreeze9924 2 месяца назад +58

      Quiver dance stored power is vile, how did that get through

    • @mertensiam3384
      @mertensiam3384 2 месяца назад +21

      ​@@ffreeze9924 and somehow the broken part of that is acupressure

    • @Israel_Augustine
      @Israel_Augustine 2 месяца назад +6

      @@ffreeze9924with simple?

  • @attilaszanto2275
    @attilaszanto2275 2 месяца назад +647

    Maractus doesn't have a sand-related ability, despite living the desert. So it's constantly ravaged by sandstorms.

    • @luizfelipevbf5567
      @luizfelipevbf5567 2 месяца назад +105

      Sand Rush over Chlorophyl should have been the way honestly.

    • @H3XM4N1AC
      @H3XM4N1AC 2 месяца назад +21

      I hope Maractus is okay, I feel so bad 💔

    • @VixstraLarge
      @VixstraLarge 2 месяца назад +29

      And the worst part is that Cacnea and Cacturne do have one in Sand Veil

    • @Mrryn
      @Mrryn 2 месяца назад +21

      ​@@luizfelipevbf5567Either that or honestly a Rock secondary typing. Flavor it as its spikes and particles that give it its maraca resemblance be sandstone that is incorporated into its physiology.
      It's a pretty rare typing, it gives it ability to thrive in sandstorms (and even get the SpDef boost for being a Rock type), and can open up some extra learnset moves like Power Gem.

    • @Your_Highlord
      @Your_Highlord 2 месяца назад +3

      ​@@Mrryn, personally I think Ground over Rock, but that's just me

  • @that2amvagueexistentialdread
    @that2amvagueexistentialdread 2 месяца назад +309

    Someone pointed out to me that Druddigon looks like a dragon drawn by a small child (large blocks of bright primary colors, body parts that are simplistic yet weirdly shaped) and honestly, I find it kind of charming when I think of it that way.

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  2 месяца назад +65

      Yeah, I remember seeing a comment on a forum post calling it a "math class creation"
      pretty hit or miss design honestly

    • @Sunaki1000
      @Sunaki1000 2 месяца назад +10

      It looks exactly like a Dragon Version of Bio Thunderbirdmon.

    • @argonianale5716
      @argonianale5716 2 месяца назад +10

      I enjoy Drudd for being a single stage evo, we really needed more "mid" dragon type pokemon back then

    • @Sunaki1000
      @Sunaki1000 2 месяца назад +2

      @@argonianale5716 I personaly hope for a full Defensive Dragon Type

    • @strikerali2160
      @strikerali2160 2 месяца назад +5

      I love Druddigon’s design even more now!

  • @TrashByMinty
    @TrashByMinty 2 месяца назад +73

    Giving Heatmor DefiANT when Durant gets TruANT actually works extremely well since GF already used a pun for it’s rival’s ability

  • @diegobendinelli2680
    @diegobendinelli2680 2 месяца назад +179

    Give Beheeyem Instruct.
    Ally attacks.
    Beheyem MiB memory flashes them.
    “Bro you forgot to attack”
    Ally attacks again.

  • @joon0
    @joon0 2 месяца назад +35

    I actually really like the idea of giving Beheeyem a 4x bug weakness. It reminds me of War of the Worlds and how the aliens ultimately succumbed to microscopic organisms. Fits pretty well with Beheeyem's theme.

  • @jaretco6423
    @jaretco6423 2 месяца назад +91

    The fact that Maractus didn't get an Paldean form with an evolution in Gen. 9 was an huge miss opportunity.

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  2 месяца назад +10

      Let's hope that it gets some love next generation 🤞

    • @senatorwilsonphillips8724
      @senatorwilsonphillips8724 2 месяца назад +7

      Catcuses aren't that culturally rooted in Spain, really, giving Tauros way more forms was a good choice , in contrast.

    • @jaretco6423
      @jaretco6423 2 месяца назад +1

      @senatorwilsonphillips8724 But there are the kind of peppers that was made in Spain. Maractus could've been liked that. Instead someone else tooked it.

    • @weepashbp2270
      @weepashbp2270 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@jaretco6423why would a cactus be a pepper

    • @jaretco6423
      @jaretco6423 2 месяца назад +1

      @weepashbp2270 It doesn't have to be an cactus. It's can be an pepper plant. Which is why I said it should've gotten an regional form.

  • @mint0012
    @mint0012 2 месяца назад +135

    Fun Fact: Heatmor got the signature more Fire Lash in Gen 7...despite not being natively available in any Gen 7 games
    Heatmor is also probably mot known for being one of the moe desirable NPC mons in Gen 8 Raid Battles

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  2 месяца назад +19

      Yeah, I have no clue why they did that

    • @grunkleg.3110
      @grunkleg.3110 2 месяца назад +1

      They ended up giving it to Salazzle in Gen 8, which sorta implies to me that it was originally going to be Salazzle's thing before they made it into a special attacker

    • @PoisonFlower765
      @PoisonFlower765 10 дней назад +2

      @@grunkleg.3110 and Centiskorch! I love that guy.

  • @poke4074
    @poke4074 2 месяца назад +81

    Stunfisk should stay a special attacker, it's just way more fitting for its concept, and we already have a physical Stunfisk in the Galarian form. Also levitate is extremely unfitting because Stunfisk is supposed to be a trap in the ground for the regular and Galarian forms

    • @kikov69
      @kikov69 2 месяца назад +12

      Maybe earth eater for stunfisk instead?

    • @AIDcyt
      @AIDcyt 12 дней назад +4

      @@kikov69 Water Absorb seems to fit better, as it is a fish, it's still weak to the ground (it definitely doesnt eat it)

    • @PoisonFlower765
      @PoisonFlower765 10 дней назад

      @@kikov69 Okay so, I know we're talking about Stunfisk right now, but in my project, I give Eelektross the Poison typing and Earth Eater as an ability and I think it's clever so I'm springing this onto you. :)
      This only _really works_ since Ground moves are no longer a type and instead a modifier like Sound or Sharp. Because of that, the Earth type is a thing that exists that is both Rock and Earth but also includes moves that Airborne Pokémon (Flying types, Levitate, Air Balloon, or Magnet Rise) are immune to. Moves like Surf, Avalanche, and Low Kick are also Ground.
      So basically, Earth is 4x strong against Electric and Poison. Eelektross can have either Levitate (immunity to Ground moves) or Earth Eater (immunity to Earth moves). Fun!

  • @sylvery_
    @sylvery_ 2 месяца назад +135

    Maractus has consistently stayed in my top 5 since introduction. I don't know why, I've hardly ever used one or anything but there's something about the design that is just so appealing and charming that I can't help but fall in love with it

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  2 месяца назад +24

      Yeah, it's got a really cute and simple design. It's just that it's pretty easy to miss sadly

    • @boshman11
      @boshman11 2 месяца назад +10

      Based Maractus enjoyer

    • @TheSpeep
      @TheSpeep 2 месяца назад +5

      its not quite that high on my list, but yeah.
      Maractus just gives off nothing but good vibes, and I respect that.
      If I ever play another Gen 5 game, its going on the team for sure.
      Update: okay next time I play a Gen 5 game, the nuzlocke gods said no this time...

    • @sonicrunn3r895
      @sonicrunn3r895 2 месяца назад +5

      I think Maractus is pretty cute honestly!

    • @deff8487
      @deff8487 2 месяца назад

      Bro are you my sibling? I had the EXACT same thoughts about it

  • @Cosmolydian
    @Cosmolydian 2 месяца назад +36

    This whole video was worth it for the "Defiant" joke. Well done.

  • @brenoborba5433
    @brenoborba5433 2 месяца назад +25

    Instead of shadow tag i think it would be cool if beheeyem got a new hability that sumons gravity on the field for 5 turns like the terrain ones, it would be really cool pair this with hypnosis. I also think that claydol should have the same hability

  • @PhantoRoyce
    @PhantoRoyce 2 месяца назад +20

    3:01 maractus should have been the physical version of liligant since they’re both grass dancers. Imagine if it got dragon dance and needle arm

    • @avaluggglazer445
      @avaluggglazer445 2 месяца назад +3

      Yeah, could've even gotten a fighting variant in later gens too that's like a spinning training dummy

    • @orange_peel8025
      @orange_peel8025 2 месяца назад +4

      it does get needle arm. no dragon dance though. it is pretty strange that a cactus is a special attacker, since cacti are the poster children for "physically dangerous plant"

    • @mystrenula3911
      @mystrenula3911 2 месяца назад

      ​@@avaluggglazer445 a fighting type variant of the physical lilligant would just be hisuian lilligant

  • @minirop
    @minirop 2 месяца назад +56

    Stunfisk's French name is "Limonde", which might be the mashup of "limon" (silt) and "limande" (limanda), but is pronounced as "l'immonde" which means along the lines of "the filthy" or "the squalid" (or more generally "the ugly") 😅

    • @luidi9026
      @luidi9026 2 месяца назад +5

      Pokémon french names are always awesome in my opinion !

    • @sephikong8323
      @sephikong8323 13 дней назад +2

      ​@@luidi9026My favorite example of that is the French name of Deerling : Vivaldaim
      Mix of "Daim" (elk) and Vivaldi (composer of the 4 seasons). It's such a perfect name that I don't even have the words to describe it

    • @luidi9026
      @luidi9026 13 дней назад

      @@sephikong8323 I NEVER PAID ATTENTION TO THAT BEFORE, THIS IS BRILLIANT

  • @Max-bj5lw
    @Max-bj5lw 2 месяца назад +151

    bro gave maractus quiver dance and stored power but said the broken part about giving it simple would have been accupressure? LMAO

    • @christiancinnabars1402
      @christiancinnabars1402 2 месяца назад +46

      A 1/7 chance to get immediate +4 evasion is broken in the "not fun" kind of way.

    • @chavonjames8941
      @chavonjames8941 2 месяца назад +1

      @@christiancinnabars1402oh ya we love holding bright powder just in case 😎

    • @Jacob-jz6gr
      @Jacob-jz6gr 2 месяца назад

      @@christiancinnabars1402dsr😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅d da ddedasd

    • @avaluggglazer445
      @avaluggglazer445 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@christiancinnabars1402Neither is an immediate+2 for all of maractus's stats that matter+stored power. At least swoobat is balanced out by being frailer than paper and rocks weak, maractus can take A (exactly one) hit. +Acupressure was changed to not boost evasion, or maybe I'm thinking of moody

  • @luizfelipevbf5567
    @luizfelipevbf5567 2 месяца назад +26

    Awesome vid man, although maybe rather than Levitate you oculd give Stunfisk Storm Drain.
    It does live in the swamp and learn more than a few water type moves

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  2 месяца назад +4

      Hm, I think I was considering that or Water Absorb at some point. That would also be really neat

    • @luizfelipevbf5567
      @luizfelipevbf5567 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@PokemonWoopwould say given you swapped the attack and special attack Water Absorb would be more useful.

  • @sussybaka-9796
    @sussybaka-9796 2 месяца назад +13

    I’m rather surprised Beeheeyem doesn’t learn Cosmic Power naturally

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  2 месяца назад +3

      Yeah, pretty odd choice

    • @avaluggglazer445
      @avaluggglazer445 2 месяца назад +2

      Yet Lopunny does

    • @goGothitaLOL
      @goGothitaLOL Месяц назад

      @@avaluggglazer445and that was one of her egg moves

  • @JT-xn9ei
    @JT-xn9ei 2 месяца назад +19

    Beeheeyem is far from being forgotten personally. Young me kept imagining a psychic private eye in a crime drama alongside detective Gumshoos against a Honchcrow mob.

    • @xendra333
      @xendra333 2 месяца назад

      Me when I steal this idea for a fanfic /jk

  • @dereklee8103
    @dereklee8103 2 месяца назад +12

    I use Maractus every single gen 5 playthrough. It's my favorite Pokemon and I have no explanation as to why

    • @GFKCEG
      @GFKCEG 2 месяца назад

      Nobody cares 😊

  • @awesomeocelot7475
    @awesomeocelot7475 2 месяца назад +57

    It SUCKS how Heatmor is found so late into the game as it’s my favorite fire type….i literally had to breed one just to use it during a playthrough….

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  2 месяца назад +13

      Yeah... keeping some of the new Pokemon locked until the very end of the game doesn't really work most of the time

    • @awesomeocelot7475
      @awesomeocelot7475 2 месяца назад +4

      @@PokemonWoop yeah it really doesn’t especially since Victory road is literally as late in the game as you can get. (Main story wise)

    • @theserpent8667
      @theserpent8667 2 месяца назад +6

      I really like Heatmor, and I'm sad that it's not very good. And available so late. Also very strange that it was given a signature move...in Alola.

    • @awesomeocelot7475
      @awesomeocelot7475 2 месяца назад +5

      @@theserpent8667 that it lost (being its signature move) the very next generation….

    • @christiancinnabars1402
      @christiancinnabars1402 2 месяца назад +2

      @theserpent8667 Its signature move also being physical while its special attack is higher was also a choice, I guess. At least Centiskorch benefitted a lot from that.

  • @kyoyamurasaki9169
    @kyoyamurasaki9169 2 месяца назад +4

    I believe giving Heatmor the ability Defiant makes more sense when you remember that Durant has Truant as a hidden ability, so they can defy the true ant

  • @theserpent8667
    @theserpent8667 2 месяца назад +25

    I'd honestly give Druddigon the dual typing of Dragon/Rock, as it's literally the Cave Dragon Pokémon.

    • @yannickgrignon2473
      @yannickgrignon2473 2 месяца назад +3

      I remember just assuming Druddigon was rock/dragon or ground/dragon, and being really surprised when I found out it was a pure dragon type. Missed opportunity IMO

    • @bigcooltony437
      @bigcooltony437 2 месяца назад +2

      or just an evolution

    • @chavonjames8941
      @chavonjames8941 2 месяца назад +1

      @@bigcooltony437naw Drug as a base and only form Mon dragon type until Gen 7 (the spec Att counterpart) we should keep it as is tbh

    • @christophertsongos1261
      @christophertsongos1261 Месяц назад +1

      Give it a regional form

  • @ivanbluecool
    @ivanbluecool 2 месяца назад +13

    I can see these pokemon get stat boosts or new moves and abilities when this game gets a remake. It's pretty much a good chance to do a fresh start with pokemon players again where everyone starts from point one again for modern players

  • @joltx9909
    @joltx9909 2 месяца назад +7

    I actually find druddigon to be pretty underrated design wise. I with it had an evolution or even a mega, cause he has a lot of potential when you also look at its stats and abilities

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  2 месяца назад +2

      I guess when your competition is Haxorus and Hydreigon it's hard to stand out

    • @christophertsongos1261
      @christophertsongos1261 Месяц назад +1

      I think Druddigon has a good design

  • @shepskydad
    @shepskydad 2 месяца назад +7

    I feel like Druddigon has the unfortunate circumstance of being a run of the mill Dragon type. With most being impressive legendaries and pseudo-legendaries, the more average dragons like Druddigon and Altaria never have a chance to stand out. It’s unfortunate because Druddigon is promising, just not by comparison. Great vid Woop :)

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  2 месяца назад +2

      Hey, thanks! I do feel like Altaria at least is found pretty early on so it gets some chance to shine, but Druddigon is found so late that it's almost worth it to use

    • @avaluggglazer445
      @avaluggglazer445 2 месяца назад

      Altaria stands out with it's privilege of being an early gen gym leaders strong ace. And it's mega has a really unique typing

    • @houndofculann1793
      @houndofculann1793 6 дней назад

      Gen5 also has Haxorus as another solo Dragon type Pokemon

  • @umwha
    @umwha 2 месяца назад +18

    2:28 hydro pump!? Wtf she lives in the dry desert. She dosent have the water to spare . Her thirst causes her ability: water absorb

    • @weepashbp2270
      @weepashbp2270 2 месяца назад +1

      When you battle outside the desert Maractus has spare water due to how efficient it absorbs it. Just make it so it learns it past the desert's levels

    • @umwha
      @umwha 2 месяца назад

      @@weepashbp2270 this is til nothing like what cactuses do. It like saying a camel should learn hydro pump, or that a fat human should technically be able squirt a hose out of its mouth

  • @MishKoz
    @MishKoz 2 месяца назад +3

    8:33 Psychic/Dark unfortunately has less resistances than either mono Psychic or mono Dark. It has a grand total of... 0 resistances and 1 immunity, to Psychic... Which mono Psychic already resists lol.

  • @douglasramirez5147
    @douglasramirez5147 2 месяца назад +3

    Honestly, I think being psychic dark would be really bad for beeheyem since it’d fold like a house of cards to a single u-turn, which is suuuper common. 4x weakness to bug already holds back Hoopa unbound, which is a way stronger Pokémon so I feel like it’d make beeheyem even worse unfortunately 😵‍💫

  • @tristanhall4448
    @tristanhall4448 Месяц назад +1

    For stunfisk I’d probably not give it levitate as it hides in the ground, I feel like Orthworms ability, earth eater would be more fitting

  • @christiancinnabars1402
    @christiancinnabars1402 2 месяца назад +3

    I feel like Heatmor could lean even more into being a slow, imposing force vs Durants. Alongside increasing its bst (Durants rely on numbers to beat Heatmor, so them having the exact same bst doesn't really make sense), its Speed can even be lowered to less middling values.
    A stat spread like 95 HP, 118 Attack, 81 Defense, 105 Special Attack, 81 Special Defense, and 45 Speed (525 bst) could boost its defenses even more while also making its physical Attack be more of a focus, coinciding with its eventual signature move being physical (and also because its physical movepool is a bit better, with boosting moves like Curse/Hone Claws). It would also see more usage on the occasional Trick Room teams.
    Another thing I noticed is that Heatmor, being an anteater, has large digging claws and access to moves like Slash and Night Slash. Though giving it Sharpness probably wouldn't be likely, since Game Freak most likely just wants to put more focus on its tongue instead of its claws.

  • @lilyblade3289
    @lilyblade3289 13 дней назад +1

    Gen 5 is my favorite generation, too! Black was my first Pokemon game, and Maractus was one of my favorites. I did usually use Simisage more than it in battle, but I LOVED using it in the dress-up thingy (can't remember what it's called unfortunately) and its cry is awesome. It definitely deserves more love than Gamefreak gave it.

  • @CatSmithers
    @CatSmithers 2 месяца назад +2

    I watch your videos for the background/music selection it’s very calming and soothing with your voice, thank you ❤

  • @binarybq
    @binarybq 2 месяца назад +1

    The fact this video is the shortest one in the series is a proof that gen 5 Pokémon games are pretty well made

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  2 месяца назад +1

      Honestly, in comparison to Gen 1, a lot of them are. It's really just a couple of forgettable ones that weigh it down

  • @abyssalundyne2803
    @abyssalundyne2803 2 месяца назад +5

    Wait people hate Druddigon's design? I always thought it was a nice balance of tough and cute.

    • @bilis2866
      @bilis2866 2 месяца назад +2

      True, he's just a goofy guy

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  2 месяца назад +3

      I remember seeing a comment on a forum calling it a "math class creation"

    • @christophertsongos1261
      @christophertsongos1261 Месяц назад +1

      Druddigon has style in its design i enjoy the way Druddigon looks good design

  • @TheVengefulVadam
    @TheVengefulVadam 11 дней назад

    Druddigon’s Mold Breaker ability does give it a good niche in the lower tiers as a way to set hazards and use other status moves on Magic Bounce Pokemon like Xatu and Espeon.

  • @MontyMoleLoreMaster
    @MontyMoleLoreMaster Месяц назад

    I find it funny how Heatmor’s victims (Durant) basically outclass Heatmor in every single way (other than Heatmor’s type advantage). I feel like that is sort of a funny twist of irony.

  • @jacobellsworth6432
    @jacobellsworth6432 2 месяца назад +6

    Giving heatmore defiant is hilarious😂!!

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  2 месяца назад +1

      Had to throw it in there 😉

  • @zlectricute1906
    @zlectricute1906 6 дней назад

    I think it would make more sense to give Stunfisk’s Limber ability with Water Absorb, cause it is a fish weak to water type attacks

  • @BigPat216
    @BigPat216 2 месяца назад +2

    Not sure if you play Pokemon Go, but it's funny that is changes my perception of Stunfisk as it's very good in PVP there, especially the Galarian one.

  • @briandigiovanni6159
    @briandigiovanni6159 2 месяца назад +1

    Give Druddigon Dragon Rush so it has a STAB option that's boosted by Sheer Force

  • @arcangherss999
    @arcangherss999 2 месяца назад +1

    Honestly, though i agree with you in your changes to Maractus, i would really just refer any buffs to Maractus to the Radical Red Hackrom. There's many Pokemon who got buffed there, but Maractus slips under the radar even though it EATS. My Maractus pretty much carried me through battles she had NO BUSINESS being in.
    If you're curious, they added Grassy Surge as a possible ability and gave it Sappy Seed (i think it was the name of the attack) dealing damage and activating Leech Seed at the same time. They buffed it's defense and attack, but left it's Sp. Atk the same, so it could go either way for damage.
    It was a pretty decent Tank/Stall, which for any Grass types not named Amoonguss/Ferrothorn/Bulbasaur is a quite high bar to achieve.
    This didn't make Maractus Broken, but viable, which i think it's best for it, and really i'm now really fond of Maractus because of RR.

    • @jaretco6423
      @jaretco6423 2 месяца назад

      If we're talking about romhacks, there's an game called Pokemon Blazing Emerald and there's an regional form of Maractus that not only looks even better, but it's way more reliable too.

  • @Lilybun
    @Lilybun 2 месяца назад +1

    druddigon just needed dragon dance and roost to be effective. let druddigon be the grounded mono dragon hybrid between salamence and garchomp.

  • @yelanates
    @yelanates 2 месяца назад +1

    I love Maractus’s design. Just a happy little cactus.

  • @PieEyeToon
    @PieEyeToon 16 дней назад

    Here's some of my ideas for buffs and other changes:
    Maractus
    +5 Defense +5 Special Defense +5 Speed
    - New Ability. Some possible options: Iron Barbs, Heatproof, Soundproof, Dancer, Sand Veil, Sand Rush, Own Tempo
    - Water Gun, Scald, Hydro Pump
    Stunfisk
    Limber -> Water Absorb/Dry Skin/Storm Drain
    Druddigon
    +15 Defense
    Beheeyem
    Psychic -> Psychic/Steel
    +10 Sp.Atk
    Heatmor
    Fire -> Fire/Ground
    Flash Fire -> Steam Engine
    +10 HP +10 Sp.Def -10 Speed

  • @anaknangfilipina5846
    @anaknangfilipina5846 28 дней назад

    You forgot a few regarding the starters. Servine should have been half dragon, Pignite being half Ground instead of YET ANOTHER fighting Pokémon, and Oshawott be half Fighting.

  • @tymunster
    @tymunster 10 дней назад

    You have turned Beeheyem from a garbage can who is unusable to a mon that would turn ubers into a playground

  • @kinglittlecaesar9013
    @kinglittlecaesar9013 Месяц назад

    One idea I had in mind for buffing Heatmor is because it’s design and behavior of eating Durant, I can see it being a Fire/Steel type like Heatran.
    Sure, it would make it weak to Fighting types and even weaker to Ground, but it would give Heatran resistances to Normal, Flying, Psychic, Dragon, Steel, Fairy and an immunity to Poison.
    And for Steel type moves it could learn via level up, I can see Heatran capable of learning Bullet Punch since he has a few punching moves, Metal Claw for obvious reasons, Iron Defense to make it bulkier, and because of it’s tail is like a muffler while his head looks like its made out of metal, Heatmor’s late Steel moves that it could learn could be Iron Tail & Iron Head.
    What do you think? And also, what are your thoughts on Serperior, Samurott and the three elemental monkeys?

  • @pokemnfan1
    @pokemnfan1 10 дней назад

    Honestly the buff Beheeyem deserves the most is evolving at an earlier level.

  • @StayMadLmfao
    @StayMadLmfao 2 месяца назад +6

    Honestly I never understood when people hated the “run out of ideas bad designs” one of my favorites to this day is Vanillish. I remember in Moon my favorite that was basically my starter replacement was a shiny Vanillite. Cute lil guy

    • @Arcknives
      @Arcknives 2 месяца назад

      Yeah. And being able to look at an object and turn it into a creature is the exact opposite of not being creative in their designs. I love Pokémon like Klinklang.
      Gen 5 was awesome.

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  2 месяца назад +1

      Vanillite is too cute to hate

  • @chrisjohnsen8448
    @chrisjohnsen8448 2 месяца назад +1

    Those Stunfisk buffs would be way better suited for the Galarian form.

  • @joshuavanderrheede4469
    @joshuavanderrheede4469 2 месяца назад

    Please upload more frequently. These videos are some of the best in Pokémon lore and discussion!

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  2 месяца назад +1

      Thanks so much! More to come soon :)

  • @amaro4090
    @amaro4090 Месяц назад

    I would have given maractus round as secondary type, the added immunity to sandstorms makes sense with desert region its found in. It doesn't learn a lot of ground moves sure, but that could very well be tweaked alongside the other moves you gave it.

  • @cellP8
    @cellP8 2 месяца назад

    Let me say that i aprreciare your videos a lot and since i like editing games, some of my ideas were in line with yours lol
    For my part i most use the trivia and origins of the pokemon
    For heatmor i gave it speed boost because it has a car muffler incorporrated into its design, gave it the steel typing as well and flash fire for its second ability, stat wise i increased its spa and its speed as well as its bulk a little bit.

  • @freddywilliams9837
    @freddywilliams9837 11 дней назад

    >you forgot maractus
    Don't diss my boy Cactguy like that.

  • @theiceman4494
    @theiceman4494 Месяц назад

    Honestly Beeheyem is sorta underrated. Slow, and only moderately bulky? Yeah. But analytic on its 125 special attack makes it hit harder than even Reuniclus, so it has the most firepower of the psychic types.

  • @eiilos98
    @eiilos98 Месяц назад

    A thing I got myself thinking: all of the Pokémon shown could be fixed with an evolution.

  • @eggshellfan406
    @eggshellfan406 2 месяца назад +1

    Heatmor has the incentive to use it that it is cool and awesome and is my precious little guy :D

  • @RokuroCarisu
    @RokuroCarisu 2 месяца назад

    I think adding the Ground type would help Heatmor at least a little bit.

  • @christophertsongos1261
    @christophertsongos1261 Месяц назад +1

    Drudiggon should get a Regional form Rock and dragon type

  • @tysondennis1016
    @tysondennis1016 Месяц назад

    Maractus, Druddigon, Heatmor, Beeheyem, and Stunfisk all deserve evolutions.

  • @kalarse
    @kalarse Месяц назад

    Calling Telepathy and Gluttony usesless abilities is plain wrong. I understand they might not be a better option for a single playthrough, but for competitive, Telepathy ignores partner’s EQ, and Gluttony makes you eat pinch berries faster, which could be amazing if you take like 70% and then get another chance to live

  • @spookymoblin8888
    @spookymoblin8888 2 месяца назад

    I always thought Maractus should have rough skin as a secondary or hidden ability. Touching cacti hurts bro.

  • @lucaspintooc
    @lucaspintooc 2 месяца назад

    in pokémon sword, i had a box full of synchronize beyheem

  • @nicobruno9062
    @nicobruno9062 Месяц назад

    I started use maractus on a showdown team where i put the worst pokemon with lowest base total stats and low popularity. I use it has a spe atk with sunny day and solar beam + weather ball

  • @TrulyAtrocious
    @TrulyAtrocious 2 месяца назад

    12:42 "boo me for that one"
    Durant having truant makes that ability choice's pun GENIUS

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  2 месяца назад +1

      I guess I'm just a comedian

  • @eXi101
    @eXi101 2 месяца назад

    i love your videos so much. hope you keep it up!

  • @TrueRavengod
    @TrueRavengod 16 дней назад

    Giving Beheeyem the dark type is just bad. It removes all weaknesses except for bug, yes, but also removes all resistances, and leaves it with a measly immunity to psychic. It offers almost no defensive benefits almost whatsoever, and is almost more of a nerf than anything.

  • @TVmaniac26
    @TVmaniac26 2 дня назад

    I feel like giving it quiver dance would step on liligants toes

  • @xSwiftx4
    @xSwiftx4 2 месяца назад

    HOPE ALL IS WELL WOOP.
    WOOP WOOP, HORRAAAAAY
    oh, btw i just wanted to say as someone who always binges and rebinges all ur videos everyday I want to let u konw ur tone and persona in each video is perfect, you hear me? P-E-R-F-E-C-T. It fits so well with the thematic of the discussion and i just flat out like it over the rambunctious and high octane videos other poketubers do which feel like an alarm clock to me, and thats not really what I like.
    You dont have to change anything to capture my attention. You and a few others are one of the rare gems that mastered the concept of "less is more" idk if its ur intention to be like that, but please know it is a very effective and relaxing!

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  2 месяца назад +1

      Hey, thanks so much! It's always nice seeing your comments :D
      Yeah I'm personally not a big fan of really in your face commentary/editing

  • @0ctopusComp1etely
    @0ctopusComp1etely 2 месяца назад

    I honestly love Druddigon's niche. Almost all Dragons are impressive or intimidating in some way or another... and then there's Druddigon, a completely skippable pure Dragon-type non-pseudo legendary, just kind of existing in the low echelons of influence. For some reason I just think it's cool that Pokemon had finally decided to just make a Dragon that kind of isn't important, complete with the mono-typing. AND it's in the same generation with Haxorus, which completely dwarfs it in all regards, so you know Druddigon is getting kicked to the wayside by players. It's like Gamefreak just wanted to have some fun when making it, and that's neat.
    For the record I actually used Druddigon in my White 2 playthrough, carried over after being Egged in the White 1. You really feel how slow and average it is when using it, even if it can hit semi-hard.

  • @KanderUdon
    @KanderUdon Месяц назад

    Giving beheeyem dark type would make it much worse. It would now have 0 resistances meaning it could barely ever switch in and since its slow and not very bulky this is even worse. Cool ideas though

  • @mtverv
    @mtverv 2 месяца назад

    I’d love to see a more Modern Fix for Older Gen Pokemon video. Like there is no reason why Aerodactyl shouldn’t get Head Smash and Brave Bird…

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  2 месяца назад

      Aerodactyl would be busted with those moves

    • @mtverv
      @mtverv 2 месяца назад

      @@PokemonWoop better, but not busted. You’d be limited to Heavy Duty Boots or you’d get destroyed by Rocks and there’s Steel Types with priority Bullet Punch that could tear through its relatively weak defenses.

  • @andreapareti324
    @andreapareti324 2 месяца назад

    I gotta say, I really don't agree with Stunfisk getting Crunch - unless you consider the Regional Variant only, but, even then, Vise Grip (which really should be the basic Steel-type move) would be better - and Levitate, as I think the thing was only shown "flying" in the anime and nowhere else, certainly not in the games; we'd live in a world where stuff like Venomoth would be hit by Ground-type moves but not Stunfisk, lol. I think giving it an ability like Damp or Dry Skin, to tie in with its mud, Ground-type-related part of its design would be better.

  • @ivanbluecool
    @ivanbluecool 2 месяца назад +1

    Heatmor move fire whip or something is very good. Definitely should be passed around for more pokemon to use.
    Some of these pokemon definitely needed either. Prevo so the stats could be buffed or an evo like later gens are giving to make them fresh again. Hopefully a remake of black and white comes out to give them another round

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  2 месяца назад

      Yeah, it's interesting how Gen 5 kept some Pokemon hidden until the very end. Sadly they usually are too out of the way for you to want to get them

    • @ivanbluecool
      @ivanbluecool 2 месяца назад

      @@PokemonWoop they could probably move some pokemon around to earlier routes. That's what they should be doing especially for earlier gens where a lot of the wild is similar pokemon.

    • @nazeersadek6705
      @nazeersadek6705 2 месяца назад

      They already gave Fire lash to Centiskorch line which makes great use of it and the Salazzle line for whatever reason

  • @JuliusTops
    @JuliusTops 2 месяца назад

    I really do hope they buff these Pokemon. I have a huge soft spot for all the Gen 5 mons. And with Heatmor being my favorite fire type, I can only hope they consider giving it a buff whether just with stats, an evolution (if possible), or even a mega evolution (though I do think it would still need a buff in its base form if it does get one)

  • @kingkairous6877
    @kingkairous6877 2 месяца назад

    As a defensive mom moldbreaker is invaluable for druddigon. Roar bypassing soundproof, stealth rock bypassing magic bounce, etc.

  • @JoannaTheAnnabelle
    @JoannaTheAnnabelle Месяц назад

    I feel the same about Heatmor as you do with Beheeyem. I think Heatmor's design is really cool, and I wish it was a better Pokémon. Loved the Defiant joke. 😆

  • @wilbert3842
    @wilbert3842 2 месяца назад

    With so many Pokémon from gen five being mono type I think a lot of the more forgettable would’ve been better as a dual type to make them stand out

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  2 месяца назад

      Yeah, a lot of them get completely outclassed by their peers

  • @nerdcorner2680
    @nerdcorner2680 2 месяца назад +1

    Pokemon has been doing better with giving each their own identity, but it is impossible with Pokemon’s format. In a turn based RPG there really aren’t that many playstyles (absolutely not 800+) so most are just going to double up. And stats are extremely important 1 extra speed stat means you will always outspeed, so many different unique stat spreads just make a pokemon bad or a bad version of another. Also moves are a pretty big problem, they try to limit giving every pokemon every move so they feel unique but it often feels clunky or makes pokemon with good moves that much better. A special attacking water type without scald (before gen 9 where it got taken off of everyone) felt like a straight downgrade rather than unique.
    To make pokemon actually all feel unique they have to break from the turn based style combat in some way (more stuff like trick room but a bit more extreme)

    • @houndofculann1793
      @houndofculann1793 6 дней назад +1

      Scald was added to Gen9 in the DLC as a TM so now the move just has a paywall

    • @nerdcorner2680
      @nerdcorner2680 6 дней назад +1

      @@houndofculann1793 dang every problem they fix they create 2 more

  • @noncrete4441
    @noncrete4441 2 месяца назад

    If Durant can have truant seemingly only for the pun, then I think that heatmor having defiant for the same reason actually makes total sense

  • @bottomtext251
    @bottomtext251 2 месяца назад

    Quiver dance + Stored Power?! My man is cooking that is almost too strong

  • @Arcknives
    @Arcknives 2 месяца назад

    Love Beheeyem's design. The trenchcoat alien used to be my favourite back in the Gen 5 days. I really hope they give it more attention. A new form, evo, whatever-the-heck.

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  2 месяца назад +1

      It's honestly such a subtle yet amazing design. It just sucks that it's found so late in the game

  • @SunsetBear
    @SunsetBear Месяц назад

    i think maractus’ visual design is just as good as cacturne’s

  • @samuellaakso7012
    @samuellaakso7012 2 месяца назад

    The intro is exactly the reason why I love Unova and it's is my favorite generation. And it's always so surprising to me that many people dont seem to like gen 5. Why!?

  • @Wheaty03
    @Wheaty03 15 дней назад

    maractus could use something like sand veil or sand rush since it lives in a desert

  • @TheAuron32
    @TheAuron32 2 месяца назад

    If Drudigon was as early as say Cyclizar, i bet people would have used it more, its stats are not terrible by single playthrough standards but you likely have a Pokemon to fill that slot already.

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  2 месяца назад +1

      Yeah, it honestly should be a mid-game encounter

  • @CalWhimsical
    @CalWhimsical 2 месяца назад

    i don't care if this is the best video in the world. i am commenting frame 1 maractus and stunfisk being on there is a CRIME
    even if they are somewhat forgettable i feel like they're much more notable than the others

  • @caedrewan
    @caedrewan 2 месяца назад

    3 minutes in - maractus didn't get any mention of a sound based attack - maracas! Come on!

  • @cristhianmlr
    @cristhianmlr 2 месяца назад +1

    You ain't talking shit bout Drudiggon

  • @kstanni87
    @kstanni87 12 дней назад

    I don't think Maractus needs changing. It's just a filler pokemon.

  • @1nf3rn1t0s
    @1nf3rn1t0s 2 месяца назад

    fun fact about me: Escavalier is my favourite gen 5 pokemon (even though his speed is terrible) and nobody will change my mind over that Pokemon :)

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  2 месяца назад

      Escavalier feels like it always gets forgotten (probably due to its weird evolution method) but yeah I really like its design

  • @TheGodIvy
    @TheGodIvy 2 месяца назад

    Ironic that you posted this since im shiny hunting an Elgyem for my gen 8 badge quest. Is it a bad psychic type? Yea, but also one of my favs from gen 5, if not my fav overall

  • @PixelPoke
    @PixelPoke 2 месяца назад

    I think its important to remeber the reason there are so many pokemon is because not everyones gonna like a design persay but I will admit some of the find locations/Movesets really make it hard for some of these to be "viable" instead of the design itself being the problem. I say this because maractus and heatmor are hella cool imo lmao

  • @virusmochi
    @virusmochi 2 месяца назад

    I think maractus should have sand rush instead of chlorophyll, there are enough grass type chlorophyll pokemon

  • @VegaPhil
    @VegaPhil 2 месяца назад

    Pokémon is no different to real life. Not everything is amazing, some things are mundane and that’s cool too. Like these guys ☀️

  • @psych0tic870
    @psych0tic870 Месяц назад

    I think heatmor is a really cool design and it would 100% be my playthrough fire type (even with no buffs) if it wasn’t found on fucking victory road

  • @variumi
    @variumi Месяц назад

    Heatmore defies ants
    Durant is true ant

  • @TheRioluKid
    @TheRioluKid Месяц назад +1

    Am I the only one who waited for Emolga? 😢

  • @KraylebStudios
    @KraylebStudios 2 месяца назад

    Honestly, why isn't Druddigon Dragon/Rock type. Heck, Garbodor should have been Poison/Steel type!

  • @bjbrouwers5926
    @bjbrouwers5926 2 месяца назад

    I think Stunfisk shoukd recieve Dry Skin. It's an aquatic Pókemon weak to Water type moves