The ice type evolution was at least fixed in USUM, by adding a patch of grass at the bottom of the mountain. So Crabrawler gets it evo a bit earlier there.
"toxapex doesn't do that much damage" Kid named Merciless: I certainly didn't have any issues using Toxa in my playthrough, running scald, tspike, toxic, and venoshock. You don't need regenerator in single player because the game throws so many potions at you that you'd think you were playing an indie 'cozy business manager' game
@@jwall1646 Or gen 5's and gen 6's Noibat... Imagine Zubat evolving directly into Crobat...at level 48...but the good part is that you don't have to suffer through Noibat in every other cave unlike Zubat (which you get instead, because no one thought of making Noibat replace Zubat and evolve around lv 32, since its' stats are lower than starters' and grass starters tend to evolve at 32).
It seems to me that the problem Crabominable has is the same issues that other ice types have: late game encounters more often than not, and having a bad defensive type. The former problem is an issue because by the time you get access to an ice type, you're likely to have a full team of 6 by then, and you may not want to sub one of them out for a new Pokemon -- unless, of course, you KNOW the new Pokemon is REALLY good. As for the typing, I think by now everyone knows how bad ice is defensively, but it's even worse for Crabominable, since it's defensive stats aren't that impressive, and it's also quite slow, and therefore liable to have to take a hit before getting to attack; it's the same problem with Rampardos: being slow, frail, and having a bad defensive typing is an unholy trifecta that makes a Pokemon bad.
I'd have preferred that they delayed it indefinitely. They broke the holy commandment on this one: Thou shant evolve the perfect specimen of da SESH-crab!
I really feel like you're underselling an important aspect to Toxapex in a singleplayer setting: Merciless. Getting guaranteed crits on anything that's poisoned, especially with a move like Venoshock, does a lot to shore up its offensive profile.
Definitely, and if you’re patient and knowledgeable enough to get a Vulpix with Snow Warning, you’ve got a very powerful shield with Aurora Veil. That said, the place you first find them can be easy to miss.
I had fun running Merciless on my Toxapex in my first playthrough of Moon. It wasn't amazing but the constant crits on boosted Venoshock made it surprisingly strong offensively.
I really like Shiinotic's design but it's pretty awful to use in battle and its a shame, because I find Shiinotic way more interesting than Amoonguss as a mushroom themed Pokémon.
I am with y'all as well. Shiinotic is such a funny creepy little guy that I can't help but love and it is held back by being a pretty lackluster power wise.
I do have to admit that a problem I have with a lot of Pokémon in Alola is that they have pretty low at worst and decently high at best base speed stats. Even those who do look very fast like the fully evolved Alola starters, Vikavolt, Mudsdale, Passimian, and a few others aren’t really that fast compared to previous Gen Pokémon or other Pokémon from gen’s 8 & 9
@@brendan6555Torracat loses 30(!!) points of speed when it evolves, to be exact. Torracat is the fastest form of all the Alolan starters, faster than all of the starter's final forms.
@@Amelia4111The 4th Tapu is Rillaboom. Always has been. He has a unique terrain setting ability just like the rest of his legendary siblings. I don't know what the heck a "tapu bulu" is, though, but it sounds disappointing.
I was ready to fight someone for saying Comfey is bad, but then I realised the video is talking about for playthroughs. But ye, Comfey is actually pretty damn good in double battles
Not only doubles, but also singles. Comfey has had an insane glow-up in gen 9 because of tera. It is now sitting in the UU-tier in singles, higher than pokémon like Gengar, Salamence, Gardevoir, Volcanion, Jirachi and Azelf just to name a few for reference. Its main weakness was its inability to deal with steel types. That's no longer the case because of Tera Blast. Comfey can and will seeep you if it's given even a single turn to set up.
I'll always have a soft spot for Togedemaru because in my first playthrough of Ultra Moon, it para-flinched Ultra Necrozma to death. A Togedemaru evolution with a bit more bulk would honestly be amazing. Steel/Electric has the most resistances of any type combo, and paired with Iron Barbs, you'd be able to sponge a looooot of damage while chipping the opponent.
Honestly with the right evolution it could go from one of the worst to one of the best! And honestly, it really isn't THAT bad. Still much better than Plusle and Minun.
How funny, I also decimated Ultra Necrozma with Togedemaru. In a recent playthrough I happened to win the fight through a combination of Togedemaru's Nuzzle and Haunter's Curse.
Oh WOW I lucked out with my Comfey. I used one in my OG Moon team blissfully unaware of the Draining Kiss situation, just happened to catch one that knew it. Also as somebody who’s used a Toxapex on that same team, Merciless does put in mad work for single-player. Baneful Bunker + Venoshock is all ya need, really.
What do you mean Ninetales and Sandslash are only available before the Elite 4? You can catch them as soon as you get to Tapu Village and the ice stone is in Po Town.
1:32 I wished more people talked about Silvally! SUCH A MAJESTIC CREATURE! Love his animations when he stands arrongantly! His design might sound like a mess on paper but it's just immaculate, I mean, it rly gives a lot of Frankenstein mon and even a lil bit of dinosaur vibes! Even without his helmet he still looks like a soldier, he has the face of a fearless lion! Not to mention his lore and connection with Gladion is one of the most badass and compelling in the whole franchise!
When I was first playing Sun, I assumed Shiinotic was a middle-stage Pokemon. Underwhelming stats, a two-Pokemon evolution line, room to grow from a visual standpoint...it really feels weird to me that that's it.
I mean, it's not like toxic-stall Toxapex is going to be your one and only team member. Most generations, I like to include just one defensive wall capable of cheesing battles through pasive damage if the common offensive stuff doesn't work. Alomomola, Umbreon, Bronzong, Cofagrigus, Eldegoss, Clefable, Skarmory, Quagsire, Clodsire, Miltank, Mandibuzz, will not sweep the rival's team, but they can get the job done.
There is never a Pokémon-related time when I’m not thinking about Dhelmise because it’s my fave. I do not type multiple paragraphs about it regularly. I don’t have a plan to get a full team of 6 shiny ones in Sword via every encounter method in all three areas of Galar(mainland, Isle of Armor, Crown Tundra) nor am I halfway to completing that goal. I don’t have over 3,000 of them on Pokéfarm, and I also definitely don’t have a whole field of shinies and albinos + a melanistic. I don’t intend to hand-make my own plush because I am too impatient for sitting cuties. I don’t pick it as one of my starters in Pokérogue every time the opportunity arises. It isn’t the only Pokémon I’ve drawn more than 10 times. I am totally not Dhelmise’s #1 fan and defender. You can trust me with the funny seaweed I am soooooo normal Edit: I am also fond of the funny murder sandcastle and think it deserves more appreciation
Imagine if the ice type regional variants weren't version exclusive, and if they were placed much, much earlier Could be really fun to use ingame and it could also teach players how to run weather teams... ...if the abilities that made them useful weren't locked as hidden abilities. This is a crime against game design. There's no excuse to lock the abilities that mons were actually meant to use behind whatever obscure mechanics (which are NOT explained ingame) are needed to get a mon's hidden ability within a given game. Genuinely one of the worst ideas in Pokemon on par with IVs, EVs requiring items to reassign, and trade evolutions.
Idc, Crabrawler is my favorite evolution method. I caught this mon early on because its cute. The fact that it doesn't evolve till Victory Road feels like the steps scene in the Rocky movies.
MY MAIN GRIPE WITH THE ALOLA DEX IS ALL THE SLOW POKEMON. Look through all new entries and count how many have a base speed above 60. It is ridiculously weird and sad
I’d argue Golisipod being one of the worst, with its terrible speed & Special Defense, combined of how bad its ability is, it forces it to switch out when it’s falls below half health, it NEVER gets a move off without First Impression, also it lacks water stab because it learns Razor Shell BEFORE it evolves, & given where the move relearned is, good luck
18:52 When using Shiinotic to catch Pokémon, I gave it a Smoke Ball so it could run away. Escape should be guaranteed if the wild Pokémon is asleep or frozen.
So, honorable mention solely for catch odds even though it's not a Gen 7 Pokemon directly: early game Salamence. You have to encounter Bagon in the tall grass on Mele Mele island, then let it SOS for Salamence ... except Bagon is a 1% encounter in the grass it's in, and Salamence is a low odds SOS (I think another 1%, so net .01%) on top of that. However, if you want to put in the work, you can outright have a Salamence before you fight Hala. It's not actually bad, and you can always just take the Bagon and use that until it evolves naturally if you don't want to bother, but it's still funny that you can do it.
Toxapex is one of those pokemon that is phenominal in some game modes, but absolutely awful in a regular playthrough. Max level, ev trained 6x6 singles/doubles it's an incredible pokemon, or for nuzlockes it's a phenominal pivot and pokemon to help hold the line and prevent deaths, but those are vastly different scenarios from a casual/normal playthrough Togedamaru being one of the worst...this feels a bit harsh-it's limited because of movepool, but in its wheelhouse/niche it's a very, very good pokemon and always helpful to have, though I do agree magneton/magnezone is probably better in general. Crabrawler...agreed, easily one of the worst in the generation, and all of pokemon really. Crabrawler itself isn't actually that bad in design, but crabominable is legit one of the most hideous pokemon in the franchise, down there with Guzzlord and other stinkers. It being a slow heavy hitter is also a hilariously bad design choice as an ice/fighting type, similar to avalugg being hilariously awful because it's attempting to be a slow physical tank...as an ice type, and with extremely flimsy special defense. Hisuian avalugg is even more laughably bad as ice/rock
I agree on Toxapex, it's too defensive to be that helpful in a regular playthrough. But between it being obnoxious to find, and my usual starter Pokemon for Alola being Popplio, I never found a good reason to prioritize getting it. I still don't think it's bad if you can get your hands on it, and arguably not bad enough to be on a "worst of" list, but it is still pretty outclassed. The main issue I have with Togedemaru is it's lack of a good steel move -- iron head is FAR superior to gyro ball for something as fast as it is. At least USUM fixed this issue, which is nice. And while Magnezone is probably better overall, lack of steel STAB aside (given we're talking about the non ultra versions), being a faster Pokemon that can afford to tank a hit or two does arguably give it something over it's competition -- rather or not that matters depends on the player As for Crabominable, yeah, I can fully understand why it's here: it's slow, frail, has a bad defensive typing, and it evolves late, despite being available for pretty much the whole game. It just has nothing going for it, unlike Togedemaru and Toxapex, both of which at least have some kind of redeeming qualities, even if they are arguably not the most ideal choices for a playthrough team
It’s so refreshing watching a video NOT focused on competitive Pokémon. I feel like the fandom would have a stroke with these Toxapex opinions, but it’s true: Toxapex is trash in-game
I mean considering how important stealth rock is in 2 player vs how barely usable it is in 1 player, it seems pretty clear the two game modes are two different entities.
@@jaschabull2365do you mean singles and playthroughs? Cuz stealth rocks only matter in singles, but VGC (the official competitive format, played in doubles) is also a "2 player" game and in there, hazards in general are booty buttcheeks useless.
its also worth pointing out that gen 7 (especially Ultra) regularly sets the EVs of boss trainers competitively, meaning mediocre speed (and bulk) will be infinitely more problematic when you can't rely on your own speed EVs to consistently outspeed your opponent. Contrast this with, say, FRLG, where the majority of opponents aside from the rival and e4 have flat 0s in every IV and EV, meaning your Pokemon with random IVs are just naturally better, even disregarding the badge boosts.
Oof on the Corsola SOS taking forever. I guess we all now have learned our lesson. Aside from using an intimidate/unnerve mon + adrenaline orb, bring something with taunt or heal block. Thank you for your sacrifice, it shall not be in vain.
I used both Crabominable and Vikavolt (so Crabrawler & Charjabug) on my first ever alola playthrough. Let’s just say the other members absolutely carried.
So an underleveled yeah, but that is prefered to a fairy pokemon without his stab for 30 level. And when I say breeding, I don't shiny or strategic breeding, but normal breeding 1 time, that is not that bad.
These videos are awsome! Maybe in the future you could also make videos on the best mons to use in playthroughs from each generation. That would be a blessing to the pokemon community.
First I’ll do worst of the best, then best of the worst, then worst of the worst, then best of the best! That made sense… right? Also Shannon: I’m sorry for calling your favorite mons one of the worst 😭 He’s just a sweet, woolly little guy!
Togedemaru on this list only makes any sense in base SM so its a good thing you clarified that lol Between the new fights with Ultra Necrozma and Totem Ribombee, along with Kahili and especially Olivia still being Elite 4 members, its typing helps it pull some insane weight for its stats, shouts to Jonathan the Togedemaru fr
Toxapex is such a bad call for this list. Ignoring the encounter method toxapex CAN hit reasonably in hard in game. Its got the ability just for it. Merciless. An always crit surf/venoshock is amazing and does great damage + the 4 move slot syndrome point seems really stupid. Why are you worrying so much about recover when potions are available to spam with no consequences lmao.
Comfey's draining kiss situation reminded me that cubone evolves into alolan Marowak one level after it learns Shadow Bone and I just wanna know what GameFreak is thinking sometimes lol
i know its been awhile i was in hospital last year unable to walk i remember watching your videos had Alot of time to kill since i was in bed for months
ultra sun was a joke every trainer basically had one single pokemon when i had a full balanced great team.. i remember sighing at the end game everytime i saw one pokemon and i would say let me guess its under level and its not even full evolved even the final area only the post game had respectable fights and of course the battle tree
Just a funny little story, i was doing a nuzlocke in ultra moon, getting Pyukumuku as an encounter before the grass trial. Lurantis was sweeping my team, and i sent out Pyukumuku as my 2nd last mon, only for Lurantis to one-shot me, and kill themselves thanks to Innards Out. So if you wanna kill Lurantis easily, do that
My literal favourite pokemon ever is Mareanie and I went out of my way to use it on my first run through moon and I can agree entirely that I never quite got Toxapex to work and it felt really frustrating to have on my team. Specifically I got kinda tricked by it's signature ability merciless, I thought the idea of a guaranteed crit, poison boosted venoshock was the coolest thing ever but with toxapex's weak attack it could rarely OHKO anything which made the set up feel like it wasn't worth it.
Looking multiple Pokémon include Glacion and the MOVE REMINDER behind being able to face the elite 4 is straight up the worst game design I’ve seen in the entire series. There is a single generation from 1-6 that does this kind of crap and coupled with the whack stats of many Alolan Pokémon and the trials which suck and the game beign sooo long is leaves gen 7 as a major let down. It would be one of the best gens in the series but of course Game Freak has to go and ruin it on purpose because they literally are not allowed to at all make a good game. The let’s go games coming right after are a very clear example and is continued through then 8 until Legends Arceus. And the speed stat of almost every gen 7 Pokémon SUCKS!
I happened to watch this video and the "underappreciated pokémons" video back to back which is really funny because two of the pokémon from this video were also in the last video.
I DID play through USUM twice concurrently with only the three starters (pretty bad natures) and boy was it funny, hard, and rewarding! I definitely recommend it if you ever talk about Alola again.
Hard to believe it's been 8 years since it released already. Absolutely hate how shinok got shafted it has a great design. Hoping some deserving pokemon recive a mega or variant.
My boi shiinotic is one of, if not, my fav alola mons! Love the typing, spore + health restoration shenanigans, and I think it’s a cute little mushroom guy!
Couldn't believe my eyes when Toxapex made the list. Merciless guarantees a crit on poisoned pokemon + venoshock now has double the base power * STAB absolutely melts enemy trainers.
Whilst we're talking about Shiinotic, can we also talk about the fact that for some reason, its line is the only non-water type pokemon that can have the hidden ability Rain Dish, that slightly heals HP in the rain? Like why??? I understand the Ludicolo line and even Surskit having it, but Shiinotic? Why???
I played a poison-only run and went to the trouble of getting Toxapex, excepting it to be an awesome addition to my team... and then boxed it because Tentacruel was just better. The synergy between Merciless and Salazzle's Corrosion probably goes crazy in some really specific situations, but I'm just not that patient.
Had a lot of fun using Toxapex in my latest playthrough, that thing just refuses to die. That said, I totally get why it's on the list, passive pokémon are generally not good for in game
Me: Wha- Togedemaru's here?! But it's great fun to use as a paraflincher and has saved me in various different fangames so many times! *cue the 'no Iron Head' in Sun/Moon reveal and the Magneton thing* ...GameFreak wt actual F. I mean it's definitely in character for them (gives poor Crabrawler and Comfey head pats for being uniquely screwed over) but like. To the PikaClone also? *sighs* At least they didn't screw over Mimikyu as well I guess. Love seeing Wishiwashy being a beast in a regular playthrough though
It sucks that Shiinotic is so bad, it's probably my favorite mushroom Pokémon. Idk, I just find it a breath of fresh air compared to other mushroom Pokémon and I've always wanted to use one, but it just sucks so much :(
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"Worst gen 7 pokémon" Lists half my team for the playthrough.
I may have a type.
"Yes they suck, what's the problem??"
SAME
lol
not the toxic stall trainer 😭😭
Toxapex (and Wishiwashi) really show the difference between competitive and in-game usefulness/viability
The ice type evolution was at least fixed in USUM, by adding a patch of grass at the bottom of the mountain. So Crabrawler gets it evo a bit earlier there.
You could still get them at that point in SM too. They spawn even in the surrounding area as well
I don't know why anyone would subject their Crabrawler to that.
That patch of gras already existed in SM, but that area didn't count as part of mount lanakila until USUM
Proof we're getting old: Sun and Moon were released over 8 years ago
Pokémon sword and shield are 5 almost and the Fnaf movie is 1 year old already
Super Mario World turned 34 this year.
@@EinSilverRose the fact that I'm older than super Mario world feels wrong.
That's not actually true for a few weeks
nooooooooo
Shinotic is just delightfully freaking weird. It's soulless eyes are just mwa.
Well it is a “Fae” Fairy, the type of fairies seen in folktales and the ones you definitely don’t want to encounter out in the woods.
THERE SHOULD BE 3 I'S IN SHIINOTIC!
Shii and shi can be pronounced the same way.@@Amelia4111
"toxapex doesn't do that much damage"
Kid named Merciless:
I certainly didn't have any issues using Toxa in my playthrough, running scald, tspike, toxic, and venoshock. You don't need regenerator in single player because the game throws so many potions at you that you'd think you were playing an indie 'cozy business manager' game
Regenerator may be preferred in competitive, but Merciless is great for in-game, for sure.
Gamefreak had no reason for delaying Crabrawler’s evolution as late as they did
That can be said for all of Gen 7s late game evolutions
@@jwall1646 Or gen 5's and gen 6's Noibat... Imagine Zubat evolving directly into Crobat...at level 48...but the good part is that you don't have to suffer through Noibat in every other cave unlike Zubat (which you get instead, because no one thought of making Noibat replace Zubat and evolve around lv 32, since its' stats are lower than starters' and grass starters tend to evolve at 32).
It seems to me that the problem Crabominable has is the same issues that other ice types have: late game encounters more often than not, and having a bad defensive type. The former problem is an issue because by the time you get access to an ice type, you're likely to have a full team of 6 by then, and you may not want to sub one of them out for a new Pokemon -- unless, of course, you KNOW the new Pokemon is REALLY good. As for the typing, I think by now everyone knows how bad ice is defensively, but it's even worse for Crabominable, since it's defensive stats aren't that impressive, and it's also quite slow, and therefore liable to have to take a hit before getting to attack; it's the same problem with Rampardos: being slow, frail, and having a bad defensive typing is an unholy trifecta that makes a Pokemon bad.
I'd have preferred that they delayed it indefinitely. They broke the holy commandment on this one: Thou shant evolve the perfect specimen of da SESH-crab!
I really feel like you're underselling an important aspect to Toxapex in a singleplayer setting: Merciless. Getting guaranteed crits on anything that's poisoned, especially with a move like Venoshock, does a lot to shore up its offensive profile.
2:20 you can actually find the Alola ice type duo in Tapu Village, but I digress. I'm glad they don't make the list either way tho.
Definitely, and if you’re patient and knowledgeable enough to get a Vulpix with Snow Warning, you’ve got a very powerful shield with Aurora Veil. That said, the place you first find them can be easy to miss.
I had fun running Merciless on my Toxapex in my first playthrough of Moon. It wasn't amazing but the constant crits on boosted Venoshock made it surprisingly strong offensively.
Poor shiinotic REALLY needs an evolution. 🍄
I really like Shiinotic's design but it's pretty awful to use in battle and its a shame, because I find Shiinotic way more interesting than Amoonguss as a mushroom themed Pokémon.
Nah it would be bonkers with an evolution.
@WhimsicalLorelei I agree whole heartedly. Shiinotic reeks of missed potential. I truly hope it gets SOMETHING in a new game. It deserves better.
I am with y'all as well. Shiinotic is such a funny creepy little guy that I can't help but love and it is held back by being a pretty lackluster power wise.
I think it and Parasect just need some stat buffs
I do have to admit that a problem I have with a lot of Pokémon in Alola is that they have pretty low at worst and decently high at best base speed stats. Even those who do look very fast like the fully evolved Alola starters, Vikavolt, Mudsdale, Passimian, and a few others aren’t really that fast compared to previous Gen Pokémon or other Pokémon from gen’s 8 & 9
Them taking away Litten and Torracat's speed stat for incineroar was evil
Never forget that Vikavolt is slower than GRUBBIN
Mudsdale looks pretty slow to me 😅. Everything else, I agree
Vikavolt's low speed makes me so angry, I used it on my team in TWO different games and kept getting shocked at how awful its speed was
@@brendan6555Torracat loses 30(!!) points of speed when it evolves, to be exact. Torracat is the fastest form of all the Alolan starters, faster than all of the starter's final forms.
The four tapus:
Fini
Koko
Lele
*Rillaboom*
THE LAST TAPU IS SUPPOSED TO BE BULU, NOT RILLABOOM! RILLABOOM IS A STARTER FROM GALAR! AND YOU CANNOT TRANSLATE A COMMENT IF IT'S ALREADY IN ENGLISH!
@@Amelia4111The 4th Tapu is Rillaboom. Always has been. He has a unique terrain setting ability just like the rest of his legendary siblings. I don't know what the heck a "tapu bulu" is, though, but it sounds disappointing.
Rillaboom is tabu bulu but tankier@@Amelia4111
Rillabulu
@@Amelia4111I hate when people make those cringe woosh comments but this really is an appropriate moment for it
This was more of a treat than a trick today Shepsky.
well yeah, it's trick OR treat
treated!
Shoutout to Soleil. That comfey carried me throughout gen 7.
Draining Kiss, Calm Mind, Giga Drain, Strength Sap.
This thing put in WORK.
How did it know Strength Sap? I thought that Confey only learns that move through breeding. 🤔
I was ready to fight someone for saying Comfey is bad, but then I realised the video is talking about for playthroughs. But ye, Comfey is actually pretty damn good in double battles
Not only doubles, but also singles. Comfey has had an insane glow-up in gen 9 because of tera. It is now sitting in the UU-tier in singles, higher than pokémon like Gengar, Salamence, Gardevoir, Volcanion, Jirachi and Azelf just to name a few for reference.
Its main weakness was its inability to deal with steel types. That's no longer the case because of Tera Blast. Comfey can and will seeep you if it's given even a single turn to set up.
Yup. I totally called Crabrawler/Crabominable being on the list.
In my eyes they're now the mascots of this series
I will still love crabominable
Could see it from a mile away
Ahh yes, i agree, water is indead wet
@@theprinceofawesomenessIt ain't.
Amoongus walked so Shiinotic could continue watching it walk from the very far and forgotten background.
I'll always have a soft spot for Togedemaru because in my first playthrough of Ultra Moon, it para-flinched Ultra Necrozma to death.
A Togedemaru evolution with a bit more bulk would honestly be amazing. Steel/Electric has the most resistances of any type combo, and paired with Iron Barbs, you'd be able to sponge a looooot of damage while chipping the opponent.
Honestly with the right evolution it could go from one of the worst to one of the best! And honestly, it really isn't THAT bad. Still much better than Plusle and Minun.
How funny, I also decimated Ultra Necrozma with Togedemaru. In a recent playthrough I happened to win the fight through a combination of Togedemaru's Nuzzle and Haunter's Curse.
Never have I seen so much shade thrown at my favorite Gen 7 pokemon... it's bad but I can fix him without evolution I swear...
Oh WOW I lucked out with my Comfey. I used one in my OG Moon team blissfully unaware of the Draining Kiss situation, just happened to catch one that knew it.
Also as somebody who’s used a Toxapex on that same team, Merciless does put in mad work for single-player. Baneful Bunker + Venoshock is all ya need, really.
What do you mean Ninetales and Sandslash are only available before the Elite 4? You can catch them as soon as you get to Tapu Village and the ice stone is in Po Town.
You're right! Oversight on my part. Thankfully they were exempt anyways!
Everyone: U. Necrozma too hard.
Me: *has Decidueye with Sucker Punch and Golisopod with First Impression*
Zoroark: >:3
Now try doing it with a Shiinotic and a Comfey 👀
My Toxic stalling Mimikyu with focus sash and Protect :
1:32
I wished more people talked about Silvally! SUCH A MAJESTIC CREATURE! Love his animations when he stands arrongantly! His design might sound like a mess on paper but it's just immaculate, I mean, it rly gives a lot of Frankenstein mon and even a lil bit of dinosaur vibes! Even without his helmet he still looks like a soldier, he has the face of a fearless lion! Not to mention his lore and connection with Gladion is one of the most badass and compelling in the whole franchise!
When I was first playing Sun, I assumed Shiinotic was a middle-stage Pokemon. Underwhelming stats, a two-Pokemon evolution line, room to grow from a visual standpoint...it really feels weird to me that that's it.
I mean, it's not like toxic-stall Toxapex is going to be your one and only team member. Most generations, I like to include just one defensive wall capable of cheesing battles through pasive damage if the common offensive stuff doesn't work. Alomomola, Umbreon, Bronzong, Cofagrigus, Eldegoss, Clefable, Skarmory, Quagsire, Clodsire, Miltank, Mandibuzz, will not sweep the rival's team, but they can get the job done.
And when nothing else works, they can at least tank some hits while you heal up the rest of your team.
There is never a Pokémon-related time when I’m not thinking about Dhelmise because it’s my fave. I do not type multiple paragraphs about it regularly. I don’t have a plan to get a full team of 6 shiny ones in Sword via every encounter method in all three areas of Galar(mainland, Isle of Armor, Crown Tundra) nor am I halfway to completing that goal. I don’t have over 3,000 of them on Pokéfarm, and I also definitely don’t have a whole field of shinies and albinos + a melanistic. I don’t intend to hand-make my own plush because I am too impatient for sitting cuties. I don’t pick it as one of my starters in Pokérogue every time the opportunity arises. It isn’t the only Pokémon I’ve drawn more than 10 times. I am totally not Dhelmise’s #1 fan and defender. You can trust me with the funny seaweed I am soooooo normal
Edit: I am also fond of the funny murder sandcastle and think it deserves more appreciation
Back when Sun/Moon were the hot new thing, I used to think Dhelmise having "3 STABs" was so cool.
Imagine if the ice type regional variants weren't version exclusive, and if they were placed much, much earlier
Could be really fun to use ingame and it could also teach players how to run weather teams...
...if the abilities that made them useful weren't locked as hidden abilities. This is a crime against game design. There's no excuse to lock the abilities that mons were actually meant to use behind whatever obscure mechanics (which are NOT explained ingame) are needed to get a mon's hidden ability within a given game.
Genuinely one of the worst ideas in Pokemon on par with IVs, EVs requiring items to reassign, and trade evolutions.
Idc, Crabrawler is my favorite evolution method. I caught this mon early on because its cute. The fact that it doesn't evolve till Victory Road feels like the steps scene in the Rocky movies.
MY MAIN GRIPE WITH THE ALOLA DEX IS ALL THE SLOW POKEMON. Look through all new entries and count how many have a base speed above 60. It is ridiculously weird and sad
Its becuz it's based on hawaii and their rushing around is consider rude. Or it could be becuz they're more lay back then say the japanese sterotype
I’d argue Golisipod being one of the worst, with its terrible speed & Special Defense, combined of how bad its ability is, it forces it to switch out when it’s falls below half health, it NEVER gets a move off without First Impression,
also it lacks water stab because it learns Razor Shell BEFORE it evolves, & given where the move relearned is, good luck
18:52 When using Shiinotic to catch Pokémon, I gave it a Smoke Ball so it could run away. Escape should be guaranteed if the wild Pokémon is asleep or frozen.
I'm surprised that Drampa and Komala weren't on the list, my favorites usually end up being bad. I'm glad they barely escaped the list
1:09 I did, I thought of Dhelmise…
Crabs are for eating not battling
Haikyuu reference?!
Crabs are for giving caviar to until they do the happy mouth.
This crab is all about going down local, spinning jaws and downing pints!
Bleh. I hate seafood. 🤮
I’m glad at least that this wasn’t Crabominable slander, but just calling out how long it takes to evolve. (What is this gen 5?)
Same. Glad he didnt bash Crabominable, love that guy
So, honorable mention solely for catch odds even though it's not a Gen 7 Pokemon directly: early game Salamence. You have to encounter Bagon in the tall grass on Mele Mele island, then let it SOS for Salamence ... except Bagon is a 1% encounter in the grass it's in, and Salamence is a low odds SOS (I think another 1%, so net .01%) on top of that. However, if you want to put in the work, you can outright have a Salamence before you fight Hala. It's not actually bad, and you can always just take the Bagon and use that until it evolves naturally if you don't want to bother, but it's still funny that you can do it.
Toxapex is one of those pokemon that is phenominal in some game modes, but absolutely awful in a regular playthrough. Max level, ev trained 6x6 singles/doubles it's an incredible pokemon, or for nuzlockes it's a phenominal pivot and pokemon to help hold the line and prevent deaths, but those are vastly different scenarios from a casual/normal playthrough
Togedamaru being one of the worst...this feels a bit harsh-it's limited because of movepool, but in its wheelhouse/niche it's a very, very good pokemon and always helpful to have, though I do agree magneton/magnezone is probably better in general.
Crabrawler...agreed, easily one of the worst in the generation, and all of pokemon really. Crabrawler itself isn't actually that bad in design, but crabominable is legit one of the most hideous pokemon in the franchise, down there with Guzzlord and other stinkers. It being a slow heavy hitter is also a hilariously bad design choice as an ice/fighting type, similar to avalugg being hilariously awful because it's attempting to be a slow physical tank...as an ice type, and with extremely flimsy special defense. Hisuian avalugg is even more laughably bad as ice/rock
Merciless Toxapex goes crazy
I agree on Toxapex, it's too defensive to be that helpful in a regular playthrough. But between it being obnoxious to find, and my usual starter Pokemon for Alola being Popplio, I never found a good reason to prioritize getting it. I still don't think it's bad if you can get your hands on it, and arguably not bad enough to be on a "worst of" list, but it is still pretty outclassed.
The main issue I have with Togedemaru is it's lack of a good steel move -- iron head is FAR superior to gyro ball for something as fast as it is. At least USUM fixed this issue, which is nice. And while Magnezone is probably better overall, lack of steel STAB aside (given we're talking about the non ultra versions), being a faster Pokemon that can afford to tank a hit or two does arguably give it something over it's competition -- rather or not that matters depends on the player
As for Crabominable, yeah, I can fully understand why it's here: it's slow, frail, has a bad defensive typing, and it evolves late, despite being available for pretty much the whole game. It just has nothing going for it, unlike Togedemaru and Toxapex, both of which at least have some kind of redeeming qualities, even if they are arguably not the most ideal choices for a playthrough team
It’s so refreshing watching a video NOT focused on competitive Pokémon. I feel like the fandom would have a stroke with these Toxapex opinions, but it’s true: Toxapex is trash in-game
I mean considering how important stealth rock is in 2 player vs how barely usable it is in 1 player, it seems pretty clear the two game modes are two different entities.
@@jaschabull2365do you mean singles and playthroughs? Cuz stealth rocks only matter in singles, but VGC (the official competitive format, played in doubles) is also a "2 player" game and in there, hazards in general are booty buttcheeks useless.
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Ohh, right, doubles is a different thing again. I did mean one-player singles vs. two-player singles.
The clip of Assassination Classroom before Toxapex was a throwback lol
Shiinotic is a really nice mon design wise. Also I like Whishiwashi too and Toxapex is cool and Pyukumuku and Togedamaru are cute
i actually didn't expect to see togedemaru in there, but it's only because i know it's good in run & bun
its also worth pointing out that gen 7 (especially Ultra) regularly sets the EVs of boss trainers competitively, meaning mediocre speed (and bulk) will be infinitely more problematic when you can't rely on your own speed EVs to consistently outspeed your opponent.
Contrast this with, say, FRLG, where the majority of opponents aside from the rival and e4 have flat 0s in every IV and EV, meaning your Pokemon with random IVs are just naturally better, even disregarding the badge boosts.
Oof on the Corsola SOS taking forever. I guess we all now have learned our lesson. Aside from using an intimidate/unnerve mon + adrenaline orb, bring something with taunt or heal block.
Thank you for your sacrifice, it shall not be in vain.
I used both Crabominable and Vikavolt (so Crabrawler & Charjabug) on my first ever alola playthrough. Let’s just say the other members absolutely carried.
For Confey catch between 19-21, you can just breed it, you are on the good island for that.
Most people don’t really like breeding during playthroughs
Also it would be very under levelled
So an underleveled yeah, but that is prefered to a fairy pokemon without his stab for 30 level.
And when I say breeding, I don't shiny or strategic breeding, but normal breeding 1 time, that is not that bad.
THE N IN COMFEY IS SUPPOSED TO BE AN M!
I think we are ignoring the normal ability of toxapex, merciless. a layer of toxic spikes/toxic and guaranteed venoshock crits can be really fun
It’s a sick ability! Unfortunately your boy got Limber 💀
@shepskydad I know it kinda defeats the purpose of playing with the worst, buy there are ability capsules In the battle royal dome
These videos are awsome! Maybe in the future you could also make videos on the best mons to use in playthroughs from each generation. That would be a blessing to the pokemon community.
Love these vids :)
Next I would like a list of the worst BEST pokemon... Good luck decoding what that should look like!
First I’ll do worst of the best, then best of the worst, then worst of the worst, then best of the best! That made sense… right?
Also Shannon: I’m sorry for calling your favorite mons one of the worst 😭 He’s just a sweet, woolly little guy!
@@shepskydad if Peter didnt already make this comment i would have left a SCATHING review for the pyukumuku disrespect
Togedemaru on this list only makes any sense in base SM so its a good thing you clarified that lol
Between the new fights with Ultra Necrozma and Totem Ribombee, along with Kahili and especially Olivia still being Elite 4 members, its typing helps it pull some insane weight for its stats, shouts to Jonathan the Togedemaru fr
As someone who's used Wishiwashi on every Sun & Moon playthrough, I wholeheartedly agree with your take on it👍
Toxapex is such a bad call for this list.
Ignoring the encounter method toxapex CAN hit reasonably in hard in game. Its got the ability just for it. Merciless.
An always crit surf/venoshock is amazing and does great damage + the 4 move slot syndrome point seems really stupid. Why are you worrying so much about recover when potions are available to spam with no consequences lmao.
Comfey's draining kiss situation reminded me that cubone evolves into alolan Marowak one level after it learns Shadow Bone and I just wanna know what GameFreak is thinking sometimes lol
You DO know what you’re talking about. It’s so nice seeing someone talking about single player viability instead of just fixating on competitive
OK, fair play with Comfey in Sun and Moon if you miss out on Draining Kiss. It was an unsung hero when I used one in Indigo Disk though.
i know its been awhile i was in hospital last year unable to walk i remember watching your videos had Alot of time to kill since i was in bed for months
Video starts at 3:30
ultra sun was a joke every trainer basically had one single pokemon when i had a full balanced great team.. i remember sighing at the end game everytime i saw one pokemon and i would say let me guess its under level and its not even full evolved even the final area only the post game had respectable fights and of course the battle tree
Just a funny little story, i was doing a nuzlocke in ultra moon, getting Pyukumuku as an encounter before the grass trial. Lurantis was sweeping my team, and i sent out Pyukumuku as my 2nd last mon, only for Lurantis to one-shot me, and kill themselves thanks to Innards Out. So if you wanna kill Lurantis easily, do that
My literal favourite pokemon ever is Mareanie and I went out of my way to use it on my first run through moon and I can agree entirely that I never quite got Toxapex to work and it felt really frustrating to have on my team. Specifically I got kinda tricked by it's signature ability merciless, I thought the idea of a guaranteed crit, poison boosted venoshock was the coolest thing ever but with toxapex's weak attack it could rarely OHKO anything which made the set up feel like it wasn't worth it.
Halloween themed video: ❌
Worst gen 7 Pokémon: ✅
This is why Shepsky is the ultimate plot twist.
Just use the roto boosts or a strategy to beat Ultra Necrozma.
Looking multiple Pokémon include Glacion and the MOVE REMINDER behind being able to face the elite 4 is straight up the worst game design I’ve seen in the entire series. There is a single generation from 1-6 that does this kind of crap and coupled with the whack stats of many Alolan Pokémon and the trials which suck and the game beign sooo long is leaves gen 7 as a major let down. It would be one of the best gens in the series but of course Game Freak has to go and ruin it on purpose because they literally are not allowed to at all make a good game. The let’s go games coming right after are a very clear example and is continued through then 8 until Legends Arceus.
And the speed stat of almost every gen 7 Pokémon SUCKS!
Comfey in gen 7
Help me. I can only terrorize nu.
Meanwhile comfey in gen 9
I am a demon
Guzzlord too much HP.
Bewear should be a difficult o evolve Pokémon with 600 base stat. It's supposed to be a menace.
The fact that Togedemaru did not get iron tail or any other decent steel move is just sad, cause it would be pretty decent with those.
17:38 Innards Out is just Final Gambit as an ability if you want it in layman’s terms
I never understood how people can see Ultra Necrozma as a hard fight when there were plenty of easy options to deal with it.
Oh h**l no my girl marini 😭😭
I happened to watch this video and the "underappreciated pokémons" video back to back which is really funny because two of the pokémon from this video were also in the last video.
No way its been 7 months. Holy shit time flies
Phew, glad the recommendations didn’t screw me up this time and give me “The worst Gen 13 Pokémon” again.
Hello ShepskyDad - not even a minute in and you already earned my thumps up. The first joke was awsome. - Greetings Juy Juka
I DID play through USUM twice concurrently with only the three starters (pretty bad natures) and boy was it funny, hard, and rewarding! I definitely recommend it if you ever talk about Alola again.
Hard to believe it's been 8 years since it released already. Absolutely hate how shinok got shafted it has a great design. Hoping some deserving pokemon recive a mega or variant.
You know these guys suck when Sheepsky starts swearing like a sailor.
I loved this video format! please do more
I forgot Shiinotic was from this game and not original to Glimwood Tangle.
Honorable mention to vikavolt and dhelmise, who you can’t get until basically the end of the game either.
The most important thing I learned from this vid was that Shiinotic brings the boom
Favorite Gen, uploaded on my favorite day of the year, right after my birthday. This is gonna be good :)
My boi shiinotic is one of, if not, my fav alola mons! Love the typing, spore + health restoration shenanigans, and I think it’s a cute little mushroom guy!
3:08 Zoroark and Hawlucha?
Those 2 Pokemon are not from Gen 7! Zoroark is Gen 5, and Hawlucha is Gen 6!
@Amelia4111 Ok?
Couldn't believe my eyes when Toxapex made the list. Merciless guarantees a crit on poisoned pokemon + venoshock now has double the base power * STAB absolutely melts enemy trainers.
Merciless is a fantastic ability! Being a crit machine is amazing. Unfortunately ya boi got Limber 😭
No way bro a Pokémon game is already hard enough😭
Whilst we're talking about Shiinotic, can we also talk about the fact that for some reason, its line is the only non-water type pokemon that can have the hidden ability Rain Dish, that slightly heals HP in the rain? Like why??? I understand the Ludicolo line and even Surskit having it, but Shiinotic? Why???
I played a poison-only run and went to the trouble of getting Toxapex, excepting it to be an awesome addition to my team... and then boxed it because Tentacruel was just better. The synergy between Merciless and Salazzle's Corrosion probably goes crazy in some really specific situations, but I'm just not that patient.
"you can even try to have fun with fell stinger" 😂
Silvally is actually one my favorite Pokémon of all time.
Its super underrated
Yeah mine as well
13:10 that moment when I got a shiny Mareanie while sos-chaining Corsola
Me: is not the shiny I wanted, but I'll take it
6:55 sorry this Pokémon makes me a bit… Krabby…
Another day, another wonderful video form Shep and dog.
at long last.... A NEW WORST GEN VID !!!!!1!!!1!!!!1
Also, assassination classroom :D 11:15
Had a lot of fun using Toxapex in my latest playthrough, that thing just refuses to die. That said, I totally get why it's on the list, passive pokémon are generally not good for in game
Even if they gave shiinotic the ability Analytic it would still be bad. Which is crazy to think about.
Me: Wha- Togedemaru's here?! But it's great fun to use as a paraflincher and has saved me in various different fangames so many times!
*cue the 'no Iron Head' in Sun/Moon reveal and the Magneton thing*
...GameFreak wt actual F.
I mean it's definitely in character for them (gives poor Crabrawler and Comfey head pats for being uniquely screwed over) but like. To the PikaClone also?
*sighs*
At least they didn't screw over Mimikyu as well I guess.
Love seeing Wishiwashy being a beast in a regular playthrough though
Crabrawler is one of my favourite pokemon, but I'll NEVER forgive Gamefreak for that reveal video. Was devastated when I saw those stats.
I’m mad that Shiinotic is in this because I beat Sword with only Morelull and now I have my new favorite Pokémon
It sucks that Shiinotic is so bad, it's probably my favorite mushroom Pokémon. Idk, I just find it a breath of fresh air compared to other mushroom Pokémon and I've always wanted to use one, but it just sucks so much :(
I played through with a pyukumuku in ultra sun and it was such a drag 😭 i love how they look though so I suffered through 😂