Fixing Gen 4's Worst Pokemon

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  • Опубликовано: 29 ноя 2024

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  • @GrandDuchessTaco
    @GrandDuchessTaco 9 месяцев назад +836

    I feel like making Kricketune's BST go to 440 would be even more thematically fitting, since tuners are typically set to A = 440 Hertz as a frequency.

    • @somerandomgoblin2583
      @somerandomgoblin2583 9 месяцев назад +43

      that's adorable! i totally agree!

    • @CarlosSaulRodriguezA
      @CarlosSaulRodriguezA 9 месяцев назад +8

      Actually, the standard is anything between 440-444, while some claim 432 to be better... so....

    • @CharlieManning-g5h
      @CharlieManning-g5h 9 месяцев назад +52

      ​@@CarlosSaulRodriguezA"actually" ☝️🤓

    • @jakeyjakes_
      @jakeyjakes_ 8 месяцев назад +36

      @@CarlosSaulRodriguezA440 is the standard

    • @DragonTheOneDZA
      @DragonTheOneDZA Месяц назад +2

      It's like rollipede having 360 bst because it's a wheel

  • @awesomeocelot7475
    @awesomeocelot7475 9 месяцев назад +1077

    It’s funny how you called Carnivine the seviper of Sinnoh since in the anime Jessie had a seviper and James had a Carnivine (which is where I always remember Carnivine from)

    • @garg4531
      @garg4531 9 месяцев назад +76

      Fun fact, James’ carnivine is the only one of its kind to appear in the anime
      Same for his cacnea!

    • @matteogabusi8950
      @matteogabusi8950 9 месяцев назад +17

      @@garg4531eh.. not really for cacnea, there has been some minor appearances in journeys and horizons

    • @dominicmoisant8393
      @dominicmoisant8393 9 месяцев назад +55

      James is secretly a grass type master, all his grass types LOVE him, maybe a bit too much lol

    • @garg4531
      @garg4531 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@dominicmoisant8393 All of them except for Amoonguss but yeah!

    • @garg4531
      @garg4531 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@matteogabusi8950 Yeah I read that after the comment
      But they’re only minor appearances in the latest series, so still for the vast majority of the anime we haven’t seen any others

  • @FarizArditiyo
    @FarizArditiyo 2 месяца назад +80

    You're editing makes it feel like you are about to talk about how three people were killed in a car crash in 1998

    • @DragonTheOneDZA
      @DragonTheOneDZA Месяц назад +1

      Oddishly specifically

    • @alpho_luny
      @alpho_luny Месяц назад +2

      Even his voice fits that theme like he could do well if he ever wanted to switch to horror theme stuff

    • @IAmTheRealHim
      @IAmTheRealHim Месяц назад +1

      @@alpho_lunytyphlosion has entered the chat

    • @alpho_luny
      @alpho_luny Месяц назад

      @@IAmTheRealHim oh shit not that 💀

  • @ikesileth2270
    @ikesileth2270 9 месяцев назад +374

    Two notes on luxray: first, no guard is more of a detriment than a buff. Sure, the elemental fangs are 95% accurate, but that pales in comparison to the focus blasts, blizzards, fire blasts, and hypnoses that you’re giving free rein to destroy your beloved feline. Second, I really do feel like a phenomenal moveset addition for luxray would be flame charge. Luxray isn’t slow persay, but it’s slow for an electric type and the fire coverage could be useful for the wormadams and steel types of sinnoh

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  9 месяцев назад +94

      Yeah, I realized too late that Compound Eyes would've by far been the better ability to give it, both gameplay wise and design wise

    • @beanslinger2
      @beanslinger2 9 месяцев назад +45

      @@PokemonWoop bro luxray has simple eyes how does Compound Eyes make sense design wise. I get the "Seeing through walls" thing could justify but he just doesnt have compound eyes like insects do

    • @smargio
      @smargio 9 месяцев назад +65

      ​@@beanslinger2 it could be a compound eyes reskin like vital spirit vs insomnia or huge power and pure power.

    • @TaLeng2023
      @TaLeng2023 9 месяцев назад +21

      ​@@smargiohopefully not just a mere reskin. Boosting accuracy and also ignoring evasiveness would be nice. Heck maybe ignore barriers as well when using Electric attacks.

    • @DigitalRag3X
      @DigitalRag3X 9 месяцев назад +3

      It gets Trail Blaze iirc

  • @shiny9690
    @shiny9690 9 месяцев назад +537

    I'd personally give Kricketune a lean towards SpAtk and more sound based moves, and give it a unique ability called "Conductor", which gives it an immunity to sound moves like soundproof, but it also strengthens itself's and an ally's sound moves in Doubles. The sound immunity would let it pull some nasty shenanigans like immunity to perish song or buffing an ally's Boomburst while remaining unharmed by it. Give it helping hand too for even more damage boosting!

    • @unkarsthug4429
      @unkarsthug4429 9 месяцев назад +40

      We could also just make a more generic version of punk rock, and give it a bit wider distribution. Give it to pokemon like Exploud. That would be a way to fix a number of meh sound based pokemon, and give them interesting interactions with each other.

    • @craniifer
      @craniifer 9 месяцев назад +8

      Yeah, I'm grateful to the breadcrumbs they sent Cricketune's way. It's at least great in story now.

    • @TaLeng2023
      @TaLeng2023 9 месяцев назад +14

      Methinks Conductor could work by making the ally's Sound attack gain priority whenever Kriketune is also preparing a Sound move.

    • @jurgeysamuel
      @jurgeysamuel 9 месяцев назад +2

      Maybe call the ability tuning fork

    • @themilkman7921
      @themilkman7921 9 месяцев назад +7

      I’d call the ability “resonance”

  • @digifreak90
    @digifreak90 9 месяцев назад +244

    With Carnivine, I remember that several people thought that it would get access to Snap Trap the next time it made an appearance because the move would fit Carnivine better than G.Stunfisk, who only gets STAB when Grassy Terrain is in effect.

    • @Ascera_exists
      @Ascera_exists 9 месяцев назад +35

      And then came GF not including Carnivine in SwSh or SV

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  9 месяцев назад +37

      Yeah, definitely a missed opportunity there

    • @munchrai6396
      @munchrai6396 9 месяцев назад +32

      Galarian Stunfisk in general is just such a mess. Its impressive that you can improve the typing, yet add a gimmick that they didn't even feel like supporting outside of a single move

    • @Chaospirex
      @Chaospirex 9 месяцев назад +5

      They should honestly buff snap traps bp to like 65 or something might as well since it’s never being used and give it to carnivine too

  • @nerdyfalco408
    @nerdyfalco408 9 месяцев назад +370

    3:31 nah man, if luxray got no guard I would just teach it thunder 💀

    • @gg41451
      @gg41451 9 месяцев назад +80

      To do a grand total of like 50% to a Milotic

    • @deeznoots6241
      @deeznoots6241 9 месяцев назад +33

      @@gg4145130% para chance though

    • @sterling8389
      @sterling8389 9 месяцев назад +68

      That 95 special attack ain't bad at all. But I actually don't like no guard as an ability becasue it's moves are generally accurate. It would only really boost the accuracy of Thunder. Which is good. But unnecessary

    • @ronswanson7371
      @ronswanson7371 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@deeznoots6241Marvel Scale

    • @deeznoots6241
      @deeznoots6241 9 месяцев назад +15

      @@ronswanson7371 marvel scale only increases Milotics physical defense, which wouldn’t affect thunder since its a special move.

  • @lumineonlover7780
    @lumineonlover7780 9 месяцев назад +58

    I personally think they should let Lumineon carry a sledgehammer to make it more threatening

  • @beefboi9993
    @beefboi9993 9 месяцев назад +113

    "Using Kricketune as a trump card" is something I NEVER thought I would hear.

  • @TaLeng2023
    @TaLeng2023 9 месяцев назад +84

    Custom ability for Luxray: X-Ray Vision
    Boosts accuracy and ignores opponent's evasion stat. Ignores screens and protection when using Electric attacks.

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  9 месяцев назад +8

      I like that a lot

    • @jordy7625
      @jordy7625 9 месяцев назад +1

      Genius

    • @thelanktheist2626
      @thelanktheist2626 5 месяцев назад +9

      Perhaps it’s a bit strong. A good drawback would be that Luxray ALSO can’t use or have any evasion moves on itself or use any accuracy-lowering moves on another Pokémon.

    • @DJsocial7102
      @DJsocial7102 3 месяца назад

      I feel like its not that crazy. Its not like it boost power of electric moves. Its just a counter to screens which is really fun. As there arent a ton of those.​@@thelanktheist2626

  • @kanibelazy0585
    @kanibelazy0585 9 месяцев назад +57

    Funny I never forgot Lumineon, probably because I really love its cry

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  9 месяцев назад +9

      That's fair. Personally, I just really like its design

    • @DragonTheOneDZA
      @DragonTheOneDZA Месяц назад +2

      I only remember snover exists because of the cry as well
      WEEOWEEO

  • @MajicMarco
    @MajicMarco 9 месяцев назад +21

    No guard is completely pointless on luxray considering its best moves are no less than 90 percent accurate. Intimidate is totally fine.

    • @1TieDye1
      @1TieDye1 5 месяцев назад +4

      Yeah. No guard is a huge downgrade from intimidate, especially on Luxray

  • @TitanKaiju75
    @TitanKaiju75 9 месяцев назад +53

    I've also always really liked Lumineon since it was introduced, but it's *LONG* overdue for some serious buffs. I've thought about it gaining Fairy as well, and have always imagined it as geting a serious Sp. Attack buff (I'd personally make it 96) to sort of make it a faster, (when under Swift Swim) Special-oriented counterpart to Azumarill.

  • @justarandompurplefox3243
    @justarandompurplefox3243 9 месяцев назад +65

    I was once part of a small Pokémon group on a chat app.
    The bubble effect was SO real. Everyone there ran Luxray and assumed it was good.
    Winning battles in that group was easy and boring since they all ran identical crap…

    • @Ycha_alpha
      @Ycha_alpha 9 месяцев назад +4

      Generic sinnoh team go brr

    • @MyNaymIsSnek1526
      @MyNaymIsSnek1526 5 месяцев назад

      @@Ycha_alphaWell, at leassst the generic sssinnoh team isss probably better than my team for Sssinnoh. Napoleon the male Empoleon, Crimssson the female Rossserade, Gayle the female Drifblim, Ssskippy the female Lopunny, Cccynthia the female Garchomp, and Anubisss the male Lucario.

    • @melonmelon8241
      @melonmelon8241 3 месяца назад +2

      @@MyNaymIsSnek1526 my brother in christ, your team IS the generic sinnoh team

    • @MyNaymIsSnek1526
      @MyNaymIsSnek1526 3 месяца назад

      @@melonmelon8241 Lopunny and Drifblim have joined the chat (alssso don’t mossst people choossse Infernape inssstead of Empoleon)

    • @melonmelon8241
      @melonmelon8241 3 месяца назад +1

      @@MyNaymIsSnek1526 lop is pretty popular i thought, its like umbreon where its kind of overrated, ill give you drifblim sure, and yeah most people go for nape but its still the more generic pick over torterra i feel like
      anyway its impossible to make a sinnoh team that isnt generic so it really doesnt matter

  • @jzstfu
    @jzstfu 9 месяцев назад +84

    the 3 elemental fangs are egg moves for Luxray

    • @DrCoeloCephalo
      @DrCoeloCephalo 9 месяцев назад +33

      Then there is no reason why they cannot be level up moves to get them easier.

    • @TKnHappyNess
      @TKnHappyNess 9 месяцев назад +10

      Hippowdon is only one available during the story in Diamond and Pearl who can pass them over. Cyrus has a Honchkrow with Drill Peck but nobody in the Sinnoh Dex gets it

    • @tabbender1232
      @tabbender1232 9 месяцев назад +10

      @@DrCoeloCephalo Yeah man just casualize everything and make the game play itsef and never oppose any kind of resistance

    • @zacharyjoy8724
      @zacharyjoy8724 9 месяцев назад +10

      To be fair, the Galar games made this MUCH easier.

    • @DrCoeloCephalo
      @DrCoeloCephalo 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@tabbender1232 Isn't this supposed tio be a kids game for everyone? Why NOT make it easier? That's the usual defense for alot of Pokemon's bad game design compared to better monster collectors where AI is monumentally smarter and skillset customizing is monumentally better like Dragon Quest Monsters among other games.

  • @isuckatgaming1873
    @isuckatgaming1873 9 месяцев назад +32

    Lumineon is my favorite water type due to its design as well as its cry
    It also has roost in legends arceus so it was fun to use

  • @thefirespecialist9007
    @thefirespecialist9007 9 месяцев назад +39

    For Carnivine: Instead of Arena Trap, it should have a unique ability... Bug Trap! Basically like Magnet Pull, but for Bug types. Preventing them from switching out, INCLUDING with U-turn!

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  9 месяцев назад +9

      That's actually a genius idea!

    • @DragonTheOneDZA
      @DragonTheOneDZA Месяц назад +4

      YES. PERFECT FOR THE POKEMON THAT'S LITERALLY WEAK TO BUG!!!

    • @victory8928
      @victory8928 Месяц назад

      Maybe even add a trait where it does 1/16 hp of the enemy if it makes physical contact

    • @jetsettech8804
      @jetsettech8804 27 дней назад

      While that's a unique idea, it doesn't help carnivine in the slightest, seeing as it's weak to bug.

    • @thefirespecialist9007
      @thefirespecialist9007 27 дней назад +1

      What if Bug Trap turned its Bug Weakness into a Bug Immunity? The only Pokémon Immune to U-Turn would be quite the Niche especially with all the Non Bug Type U-Turners on there

  • @marcelomelo9977
    @marcelomelo9977 9 месяцев назад +17

    I think carnivine should get an signature ability called "swapped roles" in which instead of being resisted and taking supereffective damage by bugs and flying it resists and does supereffective damage against bugs and flying types, it just makes sense to a plant that preys upon bugs (and even rats on some ocassions) to swap roles with them, also i think that carnivine being this big could easly prey upon smaller birds and bats

  • @XMalevolentPandoraX
    @XMalevolentPandoraX 9 месяцев назад +8

    I hope this reaches you, but your sound design is absolutely amazing! The ambient music and your low pitch voice combine to create a mysterious ambience that matches that of lost media and horror videos. Thank you for your content! It's super entertaining :)

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  9 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks a lot for the kind words!! I'm glad you enjoy it

  • @LilGian1
    @LilGian1 9 месяцев назад +23

    A Gen 4 pokemon that needs to be “fixed” is purugly. It is SOOOOOO fast and yet it can’t do anything at all with its speed. I would ATLEAST increase its physical attack so make it a fast glass cannon. Since its defences and hp is pretty low!! If not I would MINIMUM buff its HP to make it a fast pokemon that can survive for many rounds due to its big health. However, I think the fast glass cannon concept works better to fix it

    • @ChangedMyNameFinally69
      @ChangedMyNameFinally69 4 месяца назад

      Shouldn't it have high defense considering it's a big fat house cat?

    • @TheBestEver1998
      @TheBestEver1998 Месяц назад

      Give it the fur coat ability is a simple fix

  • @Dr.Deluxe
    @Dr.Deluxe 9 месяцев назад +23

    Even with buffs Lumineon is always gonna face stiff competition for a team slot with all the other excellent water types in Sinnoh. It's not available til you get the Good Rod so there's gonna be competition with all the early mons. Assuming you didn't pick Piplup as a starter there's other Sinnoh waters Floatzel and Gastrodon which are available much earlier and then there's the amazing Gyarados which only requires the Old Rod and got buffed in Gen 4. BDSP makes it much worse with early access to other water types in the underground and Platinum lets you potentially get a Vaporeon right before the Good Rod.

  •  9 месяцев назад +63

    This has been brought up before in other instances of someone saying Luxray should be Dark-type:
    Luxray has more to do with light than darkness, it was never depicted as malicious or underhanded, being black does not warrant getting Dark, and its only Dark-type moves in its level-up moveset are Bite and Crunch, which are just bites.

    • @sterling8389
      @sterling8389 9 месяцев назад +3

      Good point. I never thought of it that way

    • @thisnameseemslegit
      @thisnameseemslegit 9 месяцев назад +9

      Dark types aren’t inherently evil though, for instance Absol warns of potential disasters, Umbreon is chill. Mewoscarada is essentially just a performer. Also the light associations already fit with the electric typing, I really don’t think adding dark is that crazy.

    •  9 месяцев назад +3

      @@thisnameseemslegit the light connections contradict would-be associations with darkness.
      Absol was mistaken for a doom bringer, Umbreon has more to do with literal darkness and the night.

    • @isidorodaviddoro1920
      @isidorodaviddoro1920 9 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@thisnameseemslegitstill Absol was hated because people think that he is the One causing the bad things,dark types all have bad traits or a dark lore

    • @EDDYSUNSHINEv2
      @EDDYSUNSHINEv2 8 месяцев назад +3

      I like to think that if Luxray got a 2ndary type, it'd be Psychic instead.

  • @cowkip
    @cowkip 9 месяцев назад +80

    I really pick bad pokemon to have as favorites, I think in every video you did in this series you had some of my favorite pokemon. This time around its Lumineon, I don't know why. I just like that fish for no reason

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  9 месяцев назад +17

      Same, I love Lumineon's design, but it's just not that good

    • @Rainfire-forgets-to-animate
      @Rainfire-forgets-to-animate 9 месяцев назад +3

      Could be worse, you could be me loving spinda, ditto, and Absol.

    • @Ανδρέας-ΓεώργιοςΣκίννερ
      @Ανδρέας-ΓεώργιοςΣκίννερ 9 месяцев назад

      I remember during my Platinum playthrough all those years ago, I reached the Elite 4 without a Water type Pokémon. Bertha gave me hell, so I just went searching for a fish. Finneon came my way, and eventually carried that godforsaken battle. Though a random Dusclops is what got me through Cynthia hahah

  • @myatbhonehtike5815
    @myatbhonehtike5815 9 месяцев назад +16

    your videos are so uncanny like
    it feels kinda..creepy? the music,the backgrounds and heck even your voice give me chills

  • @MishKoz
    @MishKoz 9 месяцев назад +43

    I've seen someone suggest this buff on r/Stunfisk, but seeing how Carnivine is based on a plant whose defining characteristic is eating bugs, it should really have an ability that heals it when its hit by a Bug-type move. Basically the same idea as Water Absorb. It just makes so much sense, and it gets rid of one of the Grass-type's weaknesses, as opposed to Levitate which as you said, feels a little pointless since Grass already resists Ground.

    • @TaLeng2023
      @TaLeng2023 9 месяцев назад +8

      I'd prefer it boost ATK like Sap Sipper. IRL Venus flytraps tighten harder the more the caught insect struggle and hit the trigger hairs inside.
      Maybe it can have a partner Skill Link/Loaded Dice Pin Missile on it.

    • @hoothoot7122
      @hoothoot7122 9 месяцев назад +8

      Damn a grass type that can heal off u-turn spam is wild

    • @justspheal489
      @justspheal489 9 месяцев назад +3

      How does Stunfisk have its own subreddit lmao?

    • @MishKoz
      @MishKoz 9 месяцев назад

      @@justspheal489
      r/Stunfisk is the competitive Pokemon subreddit. Stunfisk was chosen as the mascot just as a silly little counterpart to Smogon, and their use of Koffing.
      Every Thursday they have an event where people can suggest new pokemon, abilities, moves, items, and other things that would be cool to have in the game, and the post I referred to in my original comment was that buff for Carnivine. I think they also made it a Grass/Dark type lol

    • @oodogla
      @oodogla 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​ most if not all pokemon do​@@justspheal489

  • @mazharsiddiqi7288
    @mazharsiddiqi7288 9 месяцев назад +30

    Good improvements
    For Lumineon line it's pre evo is called Beutifly of the sea moves like Silver Wind and Moon Light would really suit it (Moon Light over Morning Sun because it's dex entry always refer to night and stars)

  • @heyguysxd
    @heyguysxd 9 месяцев назад +15

    What about that cherry Pokemon? I forgot its name.

    • @frankanderson3368
      @frankanderson3368 9 месяцев назад +7

      Actually has use on a sun team. Atleast they tried

    • @coltonwilkie241
      @coltonwilkie241 9 месяцев назад +6

      The Pokemon you're speaking of is called Darkrai. It's kinda cool.

    • @Giratina575
      @Giratina575 9 месяцев назад +2

      Cherrim

    • @cesar6447
      @cesar6447 26 дней назад

      Yeah, when it doubled the attack of it's allies​@@frankanderson3368

  • @SS4Luxray
    @SS4Luxray 9 месяцев назад +22

    Personally, I never understood why Carnivine had such a high SpAtk and Luxray was so slow… it never made any sense to me. Carnivine would benefit simply from redistributing its SpAtk to every other stat. Drop it by 70 to 20 and add 20 to HP, 15 Defense and SpDf and 20 to Atk and it’ll be a lot better. As for Luxray, just buff its speed, even just by 15-20 and No Guard is a great ability for it to have. I’d also recommend Compound Eyes, Reckless or Guts as well.

    •  9 месяцев назад

      Has any non-Bug ever gotten Compound Eyes?

    • @SS4Luxray
      @SS4Luxray 9 месяцев назад +2

      @ I don’t think so. I do love that’s it’s basically a signature bug ability but I feel it’d work for Luxray well, especially since I love running Ice Fang and Snarl on mine’s lol

  • @princess_sarina_aria_elysia
    @princess_sarina_aria_elysia 9 месяцев назад +15

    Lumineon straight up needs an evolution, I did actually make one and had some similar ideas to you like the 101 speed
    Lumiluneon
    Type: Water / Fairy
    Abilities: Storm Drain / Swift Swim / Dazzling (Hidden)
    Stats:
    HP: 89
    Atk: 49
    Def: 86
    SpA: 99
    SpD: 116
    Spe: 101
    BST: 540
    New Moves:
    Starry Sea, Moonblast, Flash Cannon, Hurricane,
    Moonlight, Quiver Dance, Hypnosis, Reflect, Light Screen
    Notable Lumineon Moves:
    Dazzling Gleam, Tailwind
    Starry Sea:
    Water
    Special (Spread, Pulse Move)
    90BP 100 Acc
    The users body glimmers like stars in the darkness and releases shimmering mystic water that hits opposing Pokémon. This may also confuse the target (10%)
    Pokédex
    Scarlet:
    It floats deep in the sea, appearing as though a galaxy floating in the dark depths. Many Pokémon are led astray by its alluring light as if they’ve fallen under a spell.
    Violet :
    Having mastered control of its own starry light, it has learned to imitate the power of the moon itself. It uses this to lure prey, and to fight for territory and food with other Pokémon.
    Evolves by levelling up while learning moonlight (which Lumineon will get as level up in this hypothetical gen)

    • @SwinubPlush
      @SwinubPlush 6 месяцев назад +1

      PU maybe with a niche in NU

    • @princess_sarina_aria_elysia
      @princess_sarina_aria_elysia 6 месяцев назад

      @@SwinubPlush I'd have no idea, never played singles but I assume that's better than Lumineon

    • @bonaaq86
      @bonaaq86 Месяц назад +1

      Idk it's bulky, outspeeds a fair amount of pokemon the typing looks good, I'm not a competitive player but a pokemon with 540 stat total in NU sounds crazy lol

  • @NeoVault_
    @NeoVault_ 9 месяцев назад +9

    Should also maybe give Kricketune Perish Song, Relic Song, Echo Voice, And also Normal typing.

    • @DragonTheOneDZA
      @DragonTheOneDZA Месяц назад +1

      One of the very few times normal is an actually decent addition to a type

  • @joshtheryuk
    @joshtheryuk 9 месяцев назад +16

    You are right, i always forgot Lumineon exists. It doesn't help it's a pokèmon that you find near the end of the game and it has a bland design, bland typing and horrible stats. Why does it exist?

    • @mrttam
      @mrttam 9 месяцев назад

      Does finneon evolve into lumineon? Or is it a luvdisc-alomamola situation?

    • @joshtheryuk
      @joshtheryuk 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@mrttam Yeah Finneon is the pre-evo of Lumineon if i remember correctly but it's a waste of exp to evolve it because even after you evolve it it's still pathetically weak.
      Speaking of Alomomola, i'm still disappointed that GameFreak did not retcon it into being Luvdisc's evolution. So stupid.

    • @mrttam
      @mrttam 9 месяцев назад

      @@joshtheryuk real. Such a missed opportunity. Thanks for the info though.

    • @Gojira_uz
      @Gojira_uz 9 месяцев назад +1

      It exists because gamefreak really liked its cry

    • @mrttam
      @mrttam 9 месяцев назад

      @@Gojira_uz really?

  • @DragonTheOneDZA
    @DragonTheOneDZA Месяц назад +2

    I think the only reason lumineon isn't a fairy type is because they literally forgot it existed
    It literally has fairy wings. And if a stupid beachball can be a fairy. A beautiful glowing butterflyfish can too

  • @magnuspkmn
    @magnuspkmn 9 месяцев назад +24

    Notification gang!!! Never thought of No Guard on Luxray... I would've gone with Compound Eyes so the accuracy only works one way. Also a revenge killer Choice Scarf Arena Trap Carnivine would be so redeeming for the poor guy!

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  9 месяцев назад +6

      You know, now that you mention it, Conpound eyes would probably have been more fitting

  • @bigmonke3348
    @bigmonke3348 9 месяцев назад +3

    Im surprised nobody ever decides to give luxray GLARE when its whole thing is having visual powers.

    • @bilis2866
      @bilis2866 7 месяцев назад +1

      only snake pokemon learn that and luxray can paralyzed already

  • @naip3
    @naip3 9 месяцев назад +2

    THEY ARENT BAD, THEY ARE JUST SPECIAL!

    • @Amelia4111
      @Amelia4111 9 месяцев назад

      Can you please not type in all caps?

    • @naip3
      @naip3 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@Amelia4111 I LIKE TO LIVE THE LIFE AT 100%

  • @fathertrillvan1790
    @fathertrillvan1790 9 месяцев назад +2

    Theres a bit in my friendgroup that carnivine is the most popular pokemon so it was funny when you said its fallen through the cracks of obscurity

  • @charlesleonard9496
    @charlesleonard9496 9 месяцев назад +4

    I really love the aesthetic of your videos man! The music and the visual style is really cool!

  • @hibbs1712
    @hibbs1712 6 месяцев назад +2

    Edit3: STOP THE LUMINEON HATE. MY LUMINEON PLUSH IS LISTENING WITH ME.
    As goes for any Pokémon, Lumineon thrives on a team built for it. And Lumineon is not a singles mon. I’ve got a competitive Gen6 doubles team featuring StormDrain Lumineon. The team revolves around shutting down enemy water types and enforcing the Water/Fire/Grass type triangle and playing strongly through it. Maintaining a strong focus on enemy steel/fighting types.
    Even modest Lumineon outspeeds most and is an amazing setter. If my Lumineon “Kite” can catch a storm drain increase, coverage icebeam/psybeam starts hitting like a truck.
    You would be smart to keep the opponent from getting a clean hit in on Lumineon, but you will be surprised the hits it tanks. My Lumineon holds a brightpowder>.< and my instaswitches are Sceptile and most fast electric types. Lumineon does not thrive in 4v4 doubles, but manages much better in the ‘switchier’ 6v6 doubles meta.
    Thank you for coming to my TEDtalk
    Edit2: paste from my shinyhunting notes:
    Finneon:✨🔵 (alpha sapphire)
    •30 eggs until 5iv modest dive ball female with modest nature
    •+30 +28
    •shiny dive ball finneon with swift swim (ability capsuled to storm drain) at /88 eggs/

  • @Solomon_Gamess
    @Solomon_Gamess 7 месяцев назад +1

    Kriketune not getting encore is a crime

  • @tabbender1232
    @tabbender1232 9 месяцев назад

    Honestly Luxray's coverage is good for an electic, ice fang allows it to deal with grounds which is very rare for pure electrics.
    If anything the lack of a good physical electric stab is a bigger issue

  • @noahberan6498
    @noahberan6498 9 месяцев назад +6

    I love Wormadam and Mothim, nice to see someone giving them love

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  9 месяцев назад +3

      I'm pretty sure at some point Burmy and Wormadam were my favorite Pokemon weirdly. I still love them, but they're just not that great in battle sadly

    • @noahberan6498
      @noahberan6498 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@PokemonWoop sadly that's true, hopefully they can get some buffs in the future. But as someone who's favorite Pokemon isn't too mainstream, I understand lol

  • @jurgeysamuel
    @jurgeysamuel 9 месяцев назад +2

    My nostalgia insists there are no bad Gen 4 pokemon

  • @Fudelagem
    @Fudelagem 9 месяцев назад +2

    I love how he uses a tourist spot from my region as a background to Luxray

  • @fsgdevil7959
    @fsgdevil7959 9 месяцев назад +5

    8:08 bro 97% accurate sleep move on a base 106 speed Mon gets banned lol

    • @mavriiick
      @mavriiick 9 месяцев назад +1

      Not anymore 😔

    • @fsgdevil7959
      @fsgdevil7959 9 месяцев назад

      @@mavriiick good point lol

  • @Lelllow
    @Lelllow 9 месяцев назад +2

    I used carnivine on my first ever play through of Diamond as a kid! It was one of my faves back then and I still have a soft spot for it today

  • @tysondennis1016
    @tysondennis1016 6 месяцев назад +1

    I’d give Kricketune, Lumineon, Carnivine, Wormadam, and Mothim evolutions. As for Luxray, I’m thinking I’d sacrifice some bulk and a lot of Sp. Atk for Attack and Speed, expand its movepool, and give it Frisk as an ability (which kinda makes sense).

  • @J0K32R
    @J0K32R 9 месяцев назад +2

    Kricketune will always have a special place in my heart. First shiny I ever found on my first play through of Pearl when I was a kid. I didn’t even know what a shiny was before then.

  • @florence4483
    @florence4483 9 месяцев назад +2

    As a wormadam enjoyer I agree they just need a base stat boost. Depending on the gen they can be taught signal beam/quiver dance, but even with that, and max ivs and ev training barely helps with such low stats overall :(

  • @VioletLunaChan
    @VioletLunaChan 9 месяцев назад +6

    Please tell me, you'll keep the series going! I wanna see how you'd fix terrible Pokemon up to Paldea's Spidops.

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  9 месяцев назад

      If people like it a lot then yeah! I'd like to do this series for every generation!

    • @yurei4414
      @yurei4414 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@PokemonWoop
      If you do Alola is going to be fun, considering that even two of the starters are underwhelming in a story playtrough.

    • @VioletLunaChan
      @VioletLunaChan 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@yurei4414 You sure? Primarina and Incineroar are perfectly fine. Only issue is Decidueye, who despite being supposidly the "fast" starter out of the three only has 10 more base speed, which puts him at a pathedic 70, with mediocre offenses and defenses and for some reason they made him mixed...

  • @dippydurian
    @dippydurian 7 месяцев назад +1

    I used Lumineon and Mothim on a team solely because of how forgotten they are. My cousin used a Carnivine too. I think it’s fun using obscure Pokémon even though they aren’t the best in battle.

  • @AlmightyThagomizer
    @AlmightyThagomizer 9 месяцев назад +1

    The “Soloist” ability is a very fun idea, really enjoyed the video!

  • @porkhill6665
    @porkhill6665 9 месяцев назад +1

    Gen 5 Maractus, Zebstrika, Monkey Trio, Audino, Drudigon

  • @SupahTrunks7
    @SupahTrunks7 7 месяцев назад +1

    Carnivine has a special place in my heart since I had a carnivine figurine as a kid so it featured heavily in a lot of my make believe stories even though I was never able to catch it in the great marsh.

  • @matigamer329
    @matigamer329 9 месяцев назад +7

    So I saw your video on twitter complaining on how you gave Luxray the dark type.

    • @bilis2866
      @bilis2866 7 месяцев назад

      and they were right

  • @ScrappySlowbro
    @ScrappySlowbro 9 месяцев назад +10

    Dark type literally doesnt make any sense on luxray, having X-ray vision doesnt make it "evil" and just cause it looks edgy doesnt mean its dark type.

  • @DaGrubb97
    @DaGrubb97 9 месяцев назад +9

    Wormadam is my second favorite pokemon and I naively yearn for the day it gets new forms. Water, ice, and rock bagworms would be easy to do, c'mon. It also "bugs" me that so many people don't pronounce its name right. It's Wor-mad-am, like 'Madam'
    Edit: from what I can find on games that speak Pokémon names, it is actually Worm-a-dam

    • @garg4531
      @garg4531 9 месяцев назад

      That’s how I hear it as
      But technically it’s “worm” + “madam”

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  9 месяцев назад +1

      Hm, I actually haven't heard its name said in the anime. Does it have the emphasis on "madam"?

    • @munchrai6396
      @munchrai6396 9 месяцев назад

      Heck yeah, was so incredibly happy when I heard it got Quiver Dance, I just wish its different movepools had more overlap. Maybe give it coverage from its different forms through breeding. That'd be incredible. Would totally jive with an entire team of different Wormadam if they ever gave me 3 more. I would die of joy

    • @DaGrubb97
      @DaGrubb97 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@PokemonWoop Frick, I'm actually wrong. I pulled up the Pokedex 3D Pro game and Detective Pikachu 1 vids to double check, and they say Worm-a-dam :/ I swear I remember hearing Wor-mad-am from an official source back around the XY days. Mandela Effect is crazy

  • @LazarouDave
    @LazarouDave Месяц назад

    Something I recently discovered about Wormadam Sand Cloak.
    It can learn both Skill Swap, and Fissure
    It's niche, but pair that in a double with an Ally with No Guard, and if you can stay alive, you've got a sweep machine...

  • @thetrekace
    @thetrekace 6 месяцев назад

    Don't know if you'll ever see this, but I just started watching these videos and they've given me quite a bit of inspiration for my work on Gen 10 rebalancing! In particular, this actually helped me pull together some missing pieces for Lumineon and the 3 Wormadam forms in particular, so if you ever see this, thanks for that! Your gen 3 video was also a help in reminding me that I completely neglected poor Masquerain and Surskit, and that I'd forgotten movepool updates for Tropius, so thanks for those too! And here I thought I'd be bored tonight. :)

  • @FreyRosfield
    @FreyRosfield 9 месяцев назад

    Rivalry it's actually worse than what you showed here, it boosts the power of all moves used by the pokemon by 25% if the enemy is of the same gender but lowers the power by 25% if the enemy is of the opposite gender, so it is situational and detrimental 50% of the time

  • @spearmintpony7105
    @spearmintpony7105 9 месяцев назад +5

    >Luxray: Electric/Dark
    Yeah, no.

  • @maykonbrasileiro761
    @maykonbrasileiro761 9 месяцев назад +3

    In my first time playing platinum i saw fineon and thought it looked cute, captured it to use as my water type...
    And oh boy did it dissapoint me

  • @Yzerbruh
    @Yzerbruh 6 месяцев назад +1

    Keep Luxray pure Electric-type.
    Instead lean into its name and theming; give it tail glow, access to more coverage with moves like signal beam, dazzling gleam and ice beam. Swapping out Rivalry for Infiltrator (you can't hide). And finally redistribute its stats, lower its health and attack, and put those points into speed, swapping out Guts for Quick Feet in the process.
    Intimidate doesn't need any attention as it's already phenomenal.

  • @flamboyantwarlock7101
    @flamboyantwarlock7101 8 месяцев назад +1

    Just a thought I had when you mentioned that Swarm is a generic ability they give to bugs when they don't know what else to give them: Swarm itself should be reworked to function like Plus/Minus, so each pokemon on the field with Swarm buffs each other pokemon with Swarm. Mono-Bug doubles!

  • @sal_n729
    @sal_n729 9 месяцев назад +2

    Lumineon is one of my top 3 favorite Pokémon so it always makes me sad hearing people talk down on it all the time, love your ideas for (much needed) buffs for it!

  • @LordShonji
    @LordShonji 9 месяцев назад +2

    I feel like dark doesnt actually help Luxray. Tho giving it Strong Jaw would be alot better for it

  • @randomchiz
    @randomchiz 9 месяцев назад +1

    Even though a large part of me wants to see Lumineon wreck shop with a special attack buff and Tail Glow, I think it'd work better to make it a support mon. It already has some good support moves in u-turn, encore, icy wind, and tailwind; Just give it +20 to HP and +10 Special Defense, as well as access to Wish, Light Screen, and Reflect. I can imagine getting a decent amount of mileage using that version of Lumineon.

  • @Mybrainhurts69420
    @Mybrainhurts69420 7 месяцев назад +1

    Give mothim +54 in speed +10 sp. Atk and atk give mothim tailwind icy wind swords dance feather dance dragon dance water pulse and infestation instead of bug bite
    Also give it wind rider

  • @megarayquaza2240
    @megarayquaza2240 9 месяцев назад +1

    The thing about making Luxray a dark type is the fact it has LIGHT in its fucking name. Lux is latin for light

  • @andrewzorpas234
    @andrewzorpas234 9 месяцев назад +1

    Regarding some of the mons mentioned, I got some buff ideas for them
    Luxray doesn't need a type or ability change but rather wild charge needs to be 120 Base Power just like Double Edge and Luxray's Special Attack Stat (95) should be swapped with its Speed Stat (70) and now it's a fast Guts pokemon
    Lumineon, maybe swap its stats around, HP (69) with Defense(76)?, Special Attack (69) with Special Defense (86) and buff its Special Attack again by 10 (96). Give it Quiver Dance because butterfly/moth-like Pokemon all learn Quiver Dance and Lumineon a literal BUTTERFLY
    Wormadam, agreed with the stat buffs, give them some abilities too, Wormadam Grass= Grassy Terrain?, Wormadam Sand= Sand Stream, Wormadam Trash gets idk Iron Barbs? Wormadam Sand should also get Spikes and Shore Up, makes sense for Sandy Cloak specifically, and give all Wormadam forms U-Turn. Mothim Atk (94) and Spe (66) swap and we add 20 to the Spe and SpA (both 94->114)
    Carnivine is perfect, I'd let it learn Toxic tho and maybe make it have a signature ability where it's immune to bug moves and resists Poison (not sure if venus flytraps can handle types of poison/acid but since it uses acid as mentioned I think this decision makes sense)
    I like the Kricketune buffs the ideas are solid but I got a makeover of my own
    Stats: HP 77->57, Atk: 85->75, Def and SpD (i forgot but it's gonna be kept the same), SpA: 55->95, Spe: 65->95, Base Stat Total: 384->424, I'd make it Bug/Normal as well, unused type combo along with it fitting as a musician. I'd give it a signature ability where it's immune to Sound-Based Moves and when it uses Sound-Based Moves, it gets boosted in power by 50%, I'd slap Boomburst on it, Bug Buzz is sound based and give it U-Turn to pivot

  • @Azdaja13
    @Azdaja13 6 месяцев назад +3

    The biggest thing Luxray needs is just to be faster.

    • @BubbyBoy
      @BubbyBoy 5 месяцев назад +1

      Think base 90 is reasonable, or does it need more speed?

    • @Azdaja13
      @Azdaja13 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@BubbyBoy 90 is indeed reasonable.

  • @Soundwave968
    @Soundwave968 9 месяцев назад +2

    I felt bad 4 kricketune for being useless so i used it in my pokemon diamond playthrough (the new one) and i made it champion, dunno why i did this to my self lol

  • @TheLoneReni
    @TheLoneReni 9 месяцев назад

    Whats wild is that most of the moves he gave these mons were ones I had to go, "Wait, they didnt have that before??"

  • @emmanuelmousseau6039
    @emmanuelmousseau6039 9 месяцев назад +2

    IDK why you would ignore kricketune's intended design like that. It's a musician. In the anime, a rather powerful one too. I think any good revamped Kricketune would make it bug/normal & lean into the sound aesthetic with moves like hyper voice, bug buzz, etc. My revamped Kricketune has a spread like this: HP73, ATK75, DEF61, SPA88, SPD61, SPE75, is bug/normal to get stab from most sound moves which are normal type and a new/old ability called cacophony. It's been coded since gen 3, but never used, likely intended for loudred & exploud. All sound moves get an extra 30% chance to confuse the target. Not too busted, but works with the idea of an orchestra where you lose the individual sense of each sound as it combines together. It fits with the line's design too. I do think your fixes are otherwise pretty good, but my boy kricketune needs some love.

  • @fanofluxray
    @fanofluxray 9 месяцев назад +1

    Seeing my boy Luxray on the thumbnail makes me extremely sad, even though it's kinda true

  • @cesar6447
    @cesar6447 9 месяцев назад +1

    it give kriketune a unique ability, i was thinking on diferent concepts like
    "Melomaniac"
    Sound based moves by this pokemon have 100% accuracy
    "Duet"
    In double battles, if a pokemon uses a sound base move, pokemon with ability Duet uses it as well (like oricorio)
    "Grand Entrace"
    The first sound based move when this pokemon enters the battle, has +1 priority

  • @PatriciasWorldPW
    @PatriciasWorldPW 9 месяцев назад

    fun fact, luxray aint evil so no it should not be dark type. pokemon have typings that are meant to represent what they are based on and thats how most pokemon work.

  • @gn4rpz-the-c4t
    @gn4rpz-the-c4t 9 месяцев назад +1

    I'm surprised to hear luxray is in this video. The shinx line is downright OP in pokemon mystery dungeon explorers of sky, which came out just a year after platinum.

  • @tidaloctoling715
    @tidaloctoling715 9 месяцев назад +1

    In Pokémon Rejuvenation theres a shadow finneon that learns quiver dance which was a HUGE buff to the pokemon. I'd also potentially give it either the Flying or Fairy secondary type and Moon Blast for extra coverage. It also used to get Tail Glow in earlier versions but either way it was super helpful!

  • @paynt3770
    @paynt3770 8 месяцев назад +1

    Hey so I'm just here to bring up a cool and neat point about Luxray. Maybe haveing a bad move pool was the way it was balanced so you would have a reason to use the more underwhelming patchirisu for its weird amount of coverage and support moves with the tms it learns. Or, Pikachu + Light orb because Its broken af but you get it a little later then the other two.

    • @paynt3770
      @paynt3770 8 месяцев назад +1

      I'm just sick and tired of pokemon not having these kinds of balancing thoughts and instead just throwing 60 pokemon in the wild area it's getting really annoying.

  • @Sebastian-zj6mq
    @Sebastian-zj6mq 9 месяцев назад +1

    Maybe Lumineon could get an ability that makes "light/ ray" moves priority? I know it's not a thing, but i think it would be a cool addition to it and make it unique.

  • @FaliusAren
    @FaliusAren 9 месяцев назад +1

    Why is it strange for a feline not to learn Dig? Since when do cats burrow their entire bodies into the ground?
    And why would No Guard be appropriate? If Luxray can see enemies through walls, shouldn't it be BETTER at avoiding wild encounters, not worse?

  • @claudionosotti8812
    @claudionosotti8812 9 месяцев назад

    i would personally give lumineon a secondary electric type, it's a more unique combination having just lanturn and rotom wash with the same type and would match the neon theme of the mon + swift swim 100%accurate stab thunders or hurricanes in rain would be a nice way to use it

  • @darby2314
    @darby2314 9 месяцев назад +1

    In Gen IV, Luxray can very easily get the fangs by breeding, specifically from Hippowdon. Luxray is my go to, all purpose, type coverage Pokemon in Sinnoh playthroughs.

  • @ajh22895
    @ajh22895 7 месяцев назад +1

    Luxray's issue is it didn't get a good reprint in later gens. It's postgame locked in G5 and G6 (though would have been good to see alongside Pyroar in XY, probably was gonna be in Z), island scan in G7 and DLC in SS

  • @tim..indeed
    @tim..indeed 9 месяцев назад +1

    I would give Lumineon another evolution. Make it water/fire or water/fairy and make it really use it's luminescence/light with offensive attacks, maybe even its own attack.

    • @Amelia4111
      @Amelia4111 9 месяцев назад

      We don't use the word its as a pronoun if there's an apostrophe in it the first time!

  • @mariobrand2257
    @mariobrand2257 9 месяцев назад +3

    For some Pokemon I just feel like Gamefreak hates them.
    Like Luxray, Kricketune, Lumineon etc.
    I love Kricketune. It would be so cool to use it in Gen 9 with Technician Pin Missle with the Loaded Dice. But it doesn't even get Pin Missile. Like wth man.

  • @sargoshi
    @sargoshi 9 месяцев назад +1

    Lumineon should be an electric type

  • @willverschneider1102
    @willverschneider1102 9 месяцев назад +1

    Carnivine should get an evolution.
    Carnicrunch
    Grass/Steel
    Ability: Strong Jaw
    HP:94
    Atk:130
    Def:102
    Sp Atk:70
    Sp Def:92
    Speed:66

  • @SecretGrottoCubone
    @SecretGrottoCubone 9 месяцев назад

    I watch a lot of poketube, but something about your videos in particular always makes me want to boot up the games within moments of starting them! I really appreciate it!

  • @natebasham1746
    @natebasham1746 9 месяцев назад +1

    Luxray should get night slash level up too, super strong STAB attack w/ high critical hit ratio

  • @madisonhudak8626
    @madisonhudak8626 6 месяцев назад

    Up until a few years ago, I thought that Luxray was an electric/dark type. I was honestly shocked it was a pure electric type when I played gen 4 for the first time.

  • @avidpaintwatcher
    @avidpaintwatcher 4 месяца назад

    Honestly, Kricketune is really slept on with X-Scissor and fell stinger in like the Gen 4 remakes. That bug could do some nasty damage.

  • @ivanbluecool
    @ivanbluecool 9 месяцев назад +3

    Luxray: add dark type.
    Luminion: give it fairy type and add more speed to give it some help so I agree.
    Carnivine: make it a ground grass type and add earthquake to it's kit. Plus poison and the fang attacks.
    Krititune: steel bug type and add metal claw and all the slash moves plus an ability to do more damage when making contact with foe.
    The moth and worm group:add a ground type to their bug type and steel grass ground give a dark type to them to give you some extra stuff to play with

  • @GarrettStelly
    @GarrettStelly 9 месяцев назад

    I’m glad that you adjusted these Pokémon like you did based on law and not just based on oh this would make them broken competitively. Luxury is a shiny example of making logical decisions that can actually flush the Pokémon out.

  • @VegaPhil
    @VegaPhil 7 месяцев назад

    The thing that sucks about carnivine is that a Venus flytrap Pokémon could look really cool but instead they went for a really goofy design. I would’ve used one on my team if it didn’t have those weird cartoony eyes stuck weirdly on the top of its head. I hope they go back and use a flytrap as a design inspiration again and carnivine isn’t all we ever get from that

  • @saul-goodman
    @saul-goodman 9 месяцев назад +1

    Lumineon is the most forgettable Pokémon of all time. Nobody has ever used a Lumineon, it’s just a regular fish, it has no discernible qualities. I’m not sure you can even catch one outside of Sinnoh. There is no reason for it to exist. It doesn’t even look like a Pokémon, it could be in Finding Nemo instead and it’d be more memorable and fit in better. #CancelLumineon

  • @kalosianporygon
    @kalosianporygon 9 месяцев назад

    I am honestly shocked Carnivine was never able to use Sucker Punch, yet Wormadam can.

  • @Metis1337
    @Metis1337 9 месяцев назад +1

    giving Luxray dark type is awful.

    • @Fixmeme1
      @Fixmeme1 9 месяцев назад

      LIKE FR

  • @hatsunemei3106
    @hatsunemei3106 Месяц назад

    giving dark to luxray is the most overused trope, it would be more interesting to give it a psychic type since it haves fire and dark coverage to deal with bug and ghost types and stab zen headbutt is quite nice

  • @ElectricLegend14
    @ElectricLegend14 9 месяцев назад

    I was wondering what you were going to cover with Luxray at first, but changing it to an Electric/Dark type or changing its moveset would honestly perfect a fairly solid Pokemon.