Not just rage but also pain in his eyes. Those who played Gen 2 on Game Boy can sympathize with him, it's all fun and game until you face Whitney's Miltank!
It’s really interesting to see the development in Pokémon Gen 1: it’s a glitch how good she is and sees kinda broken Gen 8: raihan has legit strategy and counter play while also having Pokémon that work as a team and take advantage of it
@@dragullongblackfang8073 I love sword and shield, but ffs I wish they'd give us the option to either nerf exp. gain or turn of exp. share all together. Would be nice to actually struggle against Hop
The Mojave Synth I keep seeing people complaining about exp share but even with it I’ve been having trouble staying at the right level. Do you have any advice so I can do better? Honestly I’m probably just not good at games, but I have been struggling
@@cloudeddaze9502 If you're somehow having the opposite problem most are (that of over-leveling by accident and without effort), I'd recommend doing some raid battles (preferably online if you have Nintendo Online) as a way of grinding up your Poemon, and also because of the special drops you frequently get called EXP candies. They're like Rares, except they give you a set amount of EXP, making them far more useful than Rares by comparison. Though I gotta warn you: increase your Pokemons' levels slowly when using candies, otherwise you'll either overshoot and make the gums too easy for you, or worse, overlevel so much that your Pokemon won't listen to you till you get a better badge
Funny thing is, Whitney never had quite the same lasting impression on me that she apparently did for many people. When I played gold, she gave me some trouble with attract, but I ended up heading north of Goldenrod and catching Nidoran Female. Nidorina, was immune to attract, pretty tanky against Rollout, and hit decently hard with double kick. Nidoqueen became one of my favourite pokemon because of that game.
In gold I used Dig that you can find in the national park with an Onix, and it made her battle way too easy. Fastforward to heartgold, I used a heracross to one shot it.
@@jacobjude5826 i was spamming a to get through the text and ember was the first move so i accidentally replaced ember with quick attack i was playing the original version
I wanna mention with Raihan: when doing the championship, he sends out a Torkoal first. Because he predicts you'll use an ice type for his other dragon types.
That’s why I got a gyrados and gave it ice beam to handle dragon types. But I sent out a hatterene first because yeah, I was expecting a dragon type LMAO
Another trick is to use Sand Attack and make her miss. Rollout builds damage off of consecutive hits. If Miltank misses, Rollout resets back to base damage.
I never got to play any of the pokemon games, only fan made ones (being a child sucks sometimes) but I was able to watch Indigo League and X and Y. I remember being terrified of Olympia and Sabrina. Olympia looked intimidating as f*ck and Sabrina freaking turned Misty and Brock into dolls. Of course now, I'm not that scared of them since I know that by the time I challenge them, I'm already so f*cking overpowered that I'll just one shot everything.
I never understood why everyone thought Whitney’s miltank was hard to beat until I replayed gen two without an extremely over leveled typhlosion with rollout
What made Jolteon so nasty was that even though his attack was low, his speed (for the time) was stupidly high, with him only tying with Electrode for the fastest Pokemon in the game. Back in Gen 1, Speed governed your crit chance, which meant that it only took a couple of boosters to get a Jolteon that crit-shot every time. This, couple with the fact that he had Pin Missle, meant that he pretty much wrecked any Psychic type he came across, even Mewtwo. Now, Jolteon's good but not fantastic, but back in the day, Doc J was a friggin' rock star. After 25 years, he's still my boy.
Electrode has always been faster and boosts didn't increase your crit rate in Gen 1 since it was governed only by the base speed of a Pokemon, not their total speed.
And remember.. crits hit at x2 in gen 1, rather than the current x1.5 A RBY Jolteon with 2 Agility boosts would destroy everyone except Rhydon and Golem.
@@bigroaststyrone8135 Pin Missile sucks NOW, but back in the OG's it could OHKO Mewtwo. I know because I did it. Multiple times. My biggest problem with catching Mewtwo in Gen 1was that I kept knocking it out. For the record, I used my MB on Moltres because he was an annoying little cuss that broke out of over 200 pokeballs while PARALYZED AND ASLEEP!
@@1B1ueyedwo1f yeah but catching it in the wild and fighting other people are 2 very different things. Fought plenty of Jolteons with pin missile back in the day with Mewtwo and none of them could touch it. That team had Mewtwo and Alakazam as my leads and they shredded Jolteon with his piss poor attack
I think for most people it was just that Whitney was a shock. I just learned from this video that Miltank has great stats. Back then I was shocked I thought the game was cheating and overpowering it. You just don't see powerful normal types. But once that initial shock is over she goes down easy.
People: We think that Elesa is the hardest BW gym leader Me, who lost to Lenora 78 times in 5 playthroughs: you WHAT? Edit: Lenora might open with Leer instead of retaliate or hypnosis which can make the battle easy as pie. But when she murders you in a turn or puts you to sleep you're in for a big trouble
I mean honestly...yeah it is. The wild Pokemon there are only level 20 or so, and the five trainers aren't much stronger. Yes it is a bit of training that I did forget to mention, but it's not much training.
I don't know if it works in Gen 3, but in the remakes, you can catch a Trapinch or other ground type in the desert and use Dig to completely avoid his Slakings' attacks.
14:52- Another point that added to Gengar's dismay. Back then, there was no physical/special split and the kind of move it was, depended on its type. Gengar was a special attacker, while shadow ball was physical upto gen 3. So it was useful only for the versatility it had with the TMs it could learn. Same case for Starmie
It made me so happy when he said Normal-type leaders are so hard, cause I’m a Normal-type specialist (with the exception of any given starter) and I organize Gym Battles with my friends. However, I hardly ever get taken seriously as a battler since I use the most “sub-par” type available. Glad to see someone taking Normal-type trainers seriously ^-^
Cillian Stewart Thats why I use a Snorlax with a certain move set I’ve pre-calculated many times. It makes it my 2nd strongest Pokémon and a total troll in battles.
Michael"her Clefairy is a pushover" I have bad memories of that Clefairy. One it's metronome got TRANSFORM and I to battle not a Clefairy, but a QUILAVA
If it make you feel better, metronome rolled against Machop, Onix, Geodude, Qulava (all female) Psychic, Giga Drain, Maganatude (10!) and then, Hydro Cannon
I was one who was guilty of just enjoying overleveling and slamming through enemies. I was concerned more with getting certain things done than losing. Though I only ever played Emerald first, and then LeafGreen later, so I've only had two game experiences. I can see where it's a lot harder if you just go right to the gym battling without a ton of grinding.
I do that too I hate losing and losing money in video games. I struggled so much against normal type champions, Kingdras and the extremely annoying emolgas. I always try to have at least 5/10 levels higher to appreciate the game
@Brenton Taylor My Lucario made little work of him. His Glaring Sandaconda might’ve been an issue, but I wasn’t close to losing my team. If anything, Opal was terrible even if my Drapion crit her Alcreamie.... stupid age question
Another reason Whitney is tough- I remember playing SoulSilver and I caught a mareep and a gastly. I remember getting to Whitney and thinking that I would just confuse her Pokemon to death with gastly, seeing as normal moves dont hit ghost type Pokemon, but in SoulSilver, her miltank has an ability that allows it to hit ghost type, so it stomped me to death.
Yup, Sabrina was everyone's nightmare in red, blue and yellow. And on top of that, Blue had a lv 59 alakazam when you fought him to become the champion.
Same here. I trained my Totodile like a mad man. So when I reached her gym, it already evolved to Feraligatr lol. I also had Nidorino with double kick as a back up plan.
Fun strategy I used for beating Elesa on my last gen 5 run was by using a dwebble. I didn't have many options for doing damage to her emolgas beyond some sort of rock type, but since I already had an unevolved sandile and wasn't really trying to level up a decent rock type pokemon for one battle I realized I could use a dwebble I caught in the desert resort. Only problem was that this was less than optimal seeing as dwebbles offensive capability is well known to be subpar, but I also remembered that it had smack down. I ended up using dwebble to smack down her emolgas and then switching into sandile once the emolga was grounded. Ending up working decently well, and it felt good being able to finally hit her with ground moves.
In Crystal you have 3 options for Fighting-types. If you get extremely lucky, the odd egg turns into a Tyrogue, and it evolves at level 20,so whatever it turns into, you could use that on Whitney.
Tyrogue and the Hitmons don’t get fighting moves until much later. Tyrogue itself can only learn Tackle, Hitmonlee doesn’t get Jump Kick until level 26, Hitmonchan is waiting until level 32 for Mach Punch and Hitmontop is waiting until level 49 for Triple Kick.
@@zero312 Trading Drowzee for the female Machop is in Gold and Silver. If you're playing Crystal, an Abra can be traded for the female Machop. The trade described above occurs in the Goldenrod Department Store for all three games.
Normal types are incredible! Pure Normal types have an immunity to Ghost, just one weakness to Fighting, and massive movepools that would make other Mons jealous. Also plenty of powerhouses are Normal types, Like Snorlax, Zangoose, Kangaskhan and Stoutland, to name a few.
I think normal type is underrated because they seem kinda bland. But in fact they are so good to use in general. I'll do an only normal run anyday. I think I'll enjoy it...
I travelled a lot as a kid and usually had level 50 Pokémon by the 2nd or 3rd gym by half sleeping and half button mashing in tunnels or penned areas, scyther was always really cool on the tv show I didn’t realize how weak he was, he was always one of the first Pokémon I got and pretty much never left my party, it makes me feel kind of good how as almost all of the kids around me playing Pokémon and the kids you play on Wi-Fi only use or like the legendaries and think of the rest of the Pokémon as an afterthought where my Pokémon are always 20-40 levels past the legendaries when they are available and they are my afterthought, although theirs nothing like getting the perfect breeding rolls and smacking a child with a max speed jolteon using double team and mid to low level attack moves they use in the show while they are using a full team of legendaries with moves I’ve never even heard of but can’t land 😂 that being said though theirs nothing like the feeling of devestation coming across a better breeder and getting wrecked by a marill
"Fantina is the most difficult gym leader in platinum" Me, who recently started playing through platinum for the first time in years and just got to Fantinas gym: chuckles _I'm in danger_
I always thought Sabrina was extremely easy. You just needed anything that knew Bodyslam, Rockslide, Earthquake, or Mega Punch other than Nidoqueen. Or a Charizard with Slash. Or a slightly overleveld Pidgeor or Fearow. Or just solo the game with your starter. You had a lot of options. Misty and Koga were much more difficult.
@@nickolasbittar5843 Still isn't that much of a cakewalk. If you're playing on set mode, good luck getting your fighting type to survive on the switch.
Curiously, the thing I struggled the less in all of HeartGold was Whitney, I didn't know that miltank was such a big deal since I defeated it in two moves or so.
i don't undestand this myth that whitney is hard at all. you have many ways of beating her, she's only got 2 pokemon and they're at pretty low levels. even in hardcore nuzlockes she's pretty easy
You guys gotta understand, I was like 6 or 7 years old and the only pokemon I leveled was my Quilava because "fire types are the coolest". Whitney completely destroyed me until I just leveled up my Quilava to where it could kill Miltank before rollout got out of control. At no point did it occur to me to simply change pokemon, let alone use a fighting type when I didn't even know they were super effective against normal types
my goal was to prove chikorita was an absolute boss and could destroy everything with its raw hecking power and support pokemon (Echo the eevee, mory the skarmory, pixel the ponyta, Ursula the dragonair/dratini, and swoosh the suicune) Bayleef\Meganium sweeped Whitney, destroyed Claire (with the help of swoosh) and scoffed at lance. Now were taking on the kanto region together, with a replacement for mory. (I'll have to check) Echo is set on being an umbreon, while Ursula is training hard. Wish us luck!
@@ethanyuki2654 it's really hard to get the stones in crystal and I didnt know how to do friendship until recently, and plus when echo started using sand attack\ leer and then started quick attacking it was a threat in the league (I accidentally put it at the front of my party) I already had a water type (Swoosh) a fire type (Pixel ) and wasnt In need of an electric type cause had ice and rock moves fir flying and meganium for grass. (Water and flying) I might do espeon but the team is doing just fine against poison and fighting types. My meganiums surprisingly most useful move is cut, which can't hit ghosts, so I'm probably gonna get everyone fully evolved and then train them up to be on par with meganium (they're all in the low 30s while Fern is level 60)
I played a heartgold NUZLOZKE. I had to sack of a nidoran female I didn’t want to use, but it took two turns. Miltank always uses rollout on the second turn. I used DISABLE on miltank, then got lucky with stomp and beat it.
For Emerald, I think it was Tate & Liza. Claydol was bulky as heck and you're not taking it down in one shot, so you better survive Earthquake. Trying to outsmart it with Flying types gets them smacked by AncientPower, levitators like Gengar and Weezing go down to Psychic, and if it sets up Light Screen, you lose significant power from Grass and Water moves that you might need later. If you spend time on Claydol, Xatu gets turns to set up Calm Mind then Psychic. Confuse Ray can force you to waste turns hitting yourself, and Sunny Day powers up Solrock. Lunatone and Solrock can be easier, but not easy. Lunatone has Xatu's Calm Mind/Psychic trick, with Hypnosis replacing Confuse Ray, and Light Screen still lowering your special moves. Solrock is just purely Sunny Day/Solarbeam/Flamethrower/ Psychic. If your team has been weakened by the other three, then its coverage will hit pretty much everything, with Flamethrower getting a boost if you dare to use Steel types in a Psychic gym. Their Ace Pokemon are at level 43, ten levels higher than Winona's Altaria, so you will have to do mandatory grinding. Dark types like Absol/Mightyena/Sableye/Crawdaunt are not defensive powerhouses, so they will need to be leveled up significantly to survive hits, and Water types with Ice Beam get stymied by Light Screen and Sunny Day, in addition to having the power of their Surfs cut (because of double-battle mechanic) and still hurting your ally. The Solrock and Lunatone have Sitrus Berry if you can't take them out in one hit, and Hyper Potions (4?) on any Pokémon may cost you the battle (but full healing on Claydol hurts the worst). Overall very fiendish construction. Nuzlockers, level cap challengers, single Pokemon challenges (with a filler second Pokemon), and no item challengers hate them for good reasons.
Caleb S they sure did. I had to use Haunter to beat Chuck. I actually lost the first time I fought Chuck, had Kadabra and Pigyotto, but focus punch kept landing crits, that attack also hits like a truck!
I never found Norman tough at all for the slakings. All I needed was protect on anything which usually torkoal got and I just protected on non-truant turns. Tate and Liza definitely got the cake there for me.
@@geekleveling5012 I Pokémon gym I only have trouble with the normal type gym leaders Norman - Whitney and the dragon type gym leaders Claire and raihan sometimes the electric type poke mon gym leaders ihono and elesa.
When I decided I wanted to use Heracross in my new SoulSilver playthrough, I made sure catch a female just for Whitney's Miltank. Shout out to Ceri the Heracross though, that was the easiest that Miltank has ever been.
Fun fact, I had a Shedinja in Alpha Sapphire and he literally took down Norman's gym by itself. Didn't even notice that at first... guess I've been lucky or they were unprepared lol
I let my kids play the game for me when I was focused elsewhere I went in with my team nearly level 50 because they weren't looking for gyms but just battling for hours for a few weeks losing interest and walking away a lot some times
Everyone: Norman is the hardest Gym Leader in Hoenn, hands down. Me: **laughs in Hariyama, Breloom, Combusken and Lairon** Seriously, as much as I main Emerald (Tate and Liza are the WORST), I find Winona the hardest to beat. Her goddamn Altaria. Against her, you have neither any Ice-type damaging moves available at this point (EDIT: other than Ice Beam that can be bought in Mauville Game Corner, but that’s a LOT of luck grinding!) nor assurance that your Rock (EDIT: Altaria resists Electric :/) types will survive her Earthquakes. Quite the opposite.
person person Tyranitar has 4x weakness to Fighting, but I see your point. HOWEVER, (a well-leveled) Hariyama and Lairon are bulky as hell, Breloom is somehow able to survive from Mega Drains and Leech Seed, and Combusken... well, he’s Combusken, his type advantage is damn useful.
I think replace Winona with Juan in Emerald. The Kingdra loves to use double team. Once Kingdra is low, he either uses a potion or rest. Cancelling out its status condition. And it’s evasiveness doesn’t get diminished! I still think Norman is harder. But Juan is most certainly annoying!
I hate that Kingdra. It swept my entire team because I didn't want to use Rayquza since I though it would be cheating. My entire team was in the low 50s when I first fought him. THAT DANG THING KEPT SPAMMING DOUBLE TEAM AND REST! 🤬 i hate that thing
For representatives for the hardest Kanto Gym Leader, Misty would be more logical than Brock or Surge; Starmie has stats on par with a fully evolved starter with powerful Water attacks. Brock's Pokémon suffer from low Special defense so they can go down with Fire attacks.
@@sachinrao7327 no it’s not, you’re not gonna have a venusaur by the 2nd gym, you’re gonna have an ivysaur, which has base 80 special and base 60 speed. Misty’s starmie has base 100 special and base 115 speed. It’s outspeeding you, tanking your vine whips, (all grass moves are special in gen 1) and doing good damage. Pikachu is even worse with base 50 special and base 90 speed. Misty will take out a Pikachu easier than an ivysaur because electric doesn’t resist water, and even if you live a hit, all electric moves are special in gen 1. And even in gen 3, her starmie has base 85 defense and 85 special defense, but all grass and electric moves are still special. That starmie will not die
@@XGame80 I cleared the people on the bridge, the rival and all the players upto bill before coming going to misty but I cleared her pretty easily on my first attempt itself. And I didn't even have to remove my chameleon lol
I love thunderbolt as it can hit all the time unlike thunder which is only good in rain but for some unknown reason the best thunder users (stat wise) can't use rain dance.
I would say they clear as the toughest because there is one answer to Whitney's Milton it's called use dig every time you use dig it will stop her increasingly tough roll out
@@ohmeohmicah you can pick up the TM for Dig in the National Park just north of Goldenrod. There are plenty of Pokémon available at that point that can be taught it.
when i was a kid i had so much trouble beating fantina in platinum. i was finally able to do it by using staravia, immune to shadow ball & resistant to magical leaf
Yeah, I think the hard part was the magical leaf. Even with normal types, they would get hit hard by the magical leaf. Plus the status effects were a headache for me in Platinum.
i dont think whitneys miltank is that insane, if you caught a geodude at the start of the game she becomes insanely easy, geodude eats miltank for breakfast, you can even use its own strategy against her and rollout on miltank for free, geodude is insanely resistant against miltanks attacks, if you both start using rollout at the same time, geodude wins every time. croconaw also beats it with rage/fury cutter. clefairy however can be pretty bad if your unlucky, it can pull stab explosion and if your using geodude it can use hydropump or something, its pretty trolly.
You can get a female Machop in Goldenrod specifically for her gym, so I don't think she should be classified as "hard" if the game hands you her perfect counter lol
Michael: All three still know Volt Switch, and that strategy is still a giant pain. Me: *Using krokorok were he was immune to volt switch until excadrill*
For Gen 3 Kanto here's what I would recommend for Sabrina. #1. Use the Magnemite line. It's the only Steel type you'll have acess to and you can catch one before you fight Sabrina. Steel resists Psychic so you'll at least have a defensive advantage against her. #2. Use Jolteon, but don't evolve it until level 30. At level 30 Eevee learns bite, a dark move that in Gen 3 is special. Jolteon has high special attack and speed so it having access to a dark move and having high speed means you might go first with it and if you're lucky Bite might make Alaksam flinch a few times. For Whitney my best strategy is using smoke screen on her Miltank if you picked Cyniquill as a starter. Hit her with as many smoke screens as you can to lower her accuracy as much as you can.
I'd say Snorlax is the best Sabrina counter in FRLG. Huge HP and special defense with access to a physical Shadow Ball that her Pokemon can't defend against with Calm Mind spams. Also, Bite is so weak that a STAB Thunderbolt will do more damage off of Jolteon than Bite will.
7:19 - "While her Clefairy is a pushover, her Miltank is infamous." Crystal speedrunners: ohko's miltank with lv21 croconaw Also crystal speedrunners: "clefairy metronome: leech seed+sandstorm, you literally just watch yourself slowly die"; "clefairy metronome: fire blast+burn"
i remember my first playthrough of black 2. I didn't understand type matchups so i hyperlevelled my pig and powered through the game. Elesa was incredibly tough to beat with that but turns out, with enough determination and a roided fire pig, you are invincible. For those wondering, by the time i took on the elite four, Emboar was LV80
I did the same thing with my Lucario in W2 lmaooo that thing neve left my team. By the time i got to e4 i had maxed out its pp on close combat and while i didnt understand type matchups much yet, i DID know i could ohko Grimsley's entire team and by repeated failures because my entire strategy was basically just "rely on lucario" it was lv100 by the time i beat the game with help and pokemon from my cousin 😭
To be fair, the first 4 gens were way, way easier to just solo with one poké you gave all the Exp, SE/EVs and TMs than trying to balance a full team of 6. Gen 5 is, with the diminished Exp gain at higher levels and infinitely reusable TMs and opposing boss pokémon finall starting to have actual movesets and nasty coverage, probably the first gen that starts approaching "it's worth having multiple pokémon in your team even if you'll have to grind for a bit".
Pretty surprised Misty was never mentioned as a "tough" gym leader. I seriously underestimated her because of the anime. Her staryu is pretty tough, but her starmie is very fast and strong(well, it was OU in gen 1 and 3). I had two counters- pikachu and bulbasaur and she SWEEPED my team multiple times. In gen 1, she also uses an X-defend to increase starmie's defense. Imagine if she had confusion or something on that starmie....
I remember playing heartgold, and whitney stopped me from making any progress for a few days, despite the fact I got lucky with my totodile being female (so miltank couldnt use attract)
There are couple of ways to beat her so I would lower her accuracy and paralyze her Miltank then wear her out with my other Pokémon then beat her that way. If she uses heal bell, I'll have to reset the game.
Fantina was surprisingly easy for me. My monferno was able to one shot them and it only took me 4 hours to get from Twin leaf to Heartfeald. At the same time though all of the hidden items helped a lot.
25:25 Maybe an unpopular opinion, but in sword, I think gordie is on par with Raihan difficulty wise. In my nuzlocke of Pokémon sword, gordie killed my boltund, Linoone, and grimmsnarl with just his barbaracle using razor shell. That thing, at least for me, has always been a total beast. Btw I used boltund against it because I had taught it a grass move that I though would OHKO it. The other two I used to try to brute force.
i n s o m n i a c Me: *laughs in Litwick in Kabu's gym* Also Me: *laughs even harder because I have Sword and can cheese nearly half of Bea's gym with Litwick* I ended up steamrolling (Scolipede wasn't available, this wasn't a pun) the gyms with Lampent and Chandelure, because they're unironically one of my favorite evolution lines.
@@thedis-swanner3759 really I must be really overlevled allister was easy I was like level 40. I just destroyed every trainer and am unbeatable just like Leon. Of course I have boosted experience from Pokémon home.
I used to be so scared of fantina but once I figured out that shes weak to dark, Luxray just crunched them all to death in diamond Also, Lenora in Black and white was another really hard normal gym in my opinion, because of her pokemon with retaliate
I feel that in regards to the Lenora situation I remember my first playthrough of White Version I had 3 fighting types for her gym and I would REPEATEDLY get screwed over by sleep and confusion hax
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I over leveled a geodude then used self destruct to kill Whitney’s miltank.
Nice
big brain
@@snoutts 他有大脑精神
(taps forehead) "can't kill me, if I kill myself first!"
FineJay nice
I see the rage in michael’s eyes just talking about Whitney’s Miltank
I know
@Grandiville Strong Yes
Not just rage but also pain in his eyes. Those who played Gen 2 on Game Boy can sympathize with him,
it's all fun and game until you face Whitney's Miltank!
Jan Daniel Bondad oh hell yeah brotha I know what you mean even tho I 13 I played silver on game boy
Whitneys Miltank is the reason I didn't play that generation of pokemon. I couldn't beat it lmfao
It’s really interesting to see the development in Pokémon
Gen 1: it’s a glitch how good she is and sees kinda broken
Gen 8: raihan has legit strategy and counter play while also having Pokémon that work as a team and take advantage of it
the problem is the new exp share + exp candy makes the battle trivial
Echo Moto couldn’t have said it better
@@dragullongblackfang8073 I love sword and shield, but ffs I wish they'd give us the option to either nerf exp. gain or turn of exp. share all together. Would be nice to actually struggle against Hop
The Mojave Synth I keep seeing people complaining about exp share but even with it I’ve been having trouble staying at the right level. Do you have any advice so I can do better? Honestly I’m probably just not good at games, but I have been struggling
@@cloudeddaze9502 If you're somehow having the opposite problem most are (that of over-leveling by accident and without effort), I'd recommend doing some raid battles (preferably online if you have Nintendo Online) as a way of grinding up your Poemon, and also because of the special drops you frequently get called EXP candies. They're like Rares, except they give you a set amount of EXP, making them far more useful than Rares by comparison. Though I gotta warn you: increase your Pokemons' levels slowly when using candies, otherwise you'll either overshoot and make the gums too easy for you, or worse, overlevel so much that your Pokemon won't listen to you till you get a better badge
Funny thing is, Whitney never had quite the same lasting impression on me that she apparently did for many people. When I played gold, she gave me some trouble with attract, but I ended up heading north of Goldenrod and catching Nidoran Female. Nidorina, was immune to attract, pretty tanky against Rollout, and hit decently hard with double kick. Nidoqueen became one of my favourite pokemon because of that game.
same here i knew what was coming and grinded 30 mins for flamethrower TM and metronome item for my quilava
easy sweep
I pp stalled miltank and it was so infuriating and i had to buy 200 POTIONS! You can imagine how much it took
My hole team were simps for her milktank
In gold I used Dig that you can find in the national park with an Onix, and it made her battle way too easy.
Fastforward to heartgold, I used a heracross to one shot it.
she very tough
i wonder why brock doesn't use his drying pan against water types
I- LOL
Gold
Nice
It's illegal
He doesn’t have his trusty jelly-filled donuts
mikey: miltank is gonna-
me: who leveled my quilava to level 31 since i accidentally deleted ember
I would like but you already had 69
I did that the same but I didn't deleted ember
How did you "accidentally" delete ember?
@@jacobjude5826 i was spamming a to get through the text and ember was the first move so i accidentally replaced ember with quick attack i was playing the original version
How the hell?
Everyone knew what was coming when he said "now for generation 2"
Inpersonnally found Whitney easy, all I do is build fury cutters on clefairy then one shot miltank
I taught thunder to my mareep and spammed it and won
@@RileighWhitehead you had over leveled pokemon...
Should Be CLAIR
@@gyisdoingstuff9561 You used Thunder and it DIDN'T miss!?
For Gen 3: In ruby and saphire i would agree with norman. But not in emerald. The Twins are so much harder in that game.
I agree
Like first time I got to them when I was like 6 I just got pounded because I didn’t understand doubles
ISTG that claydol is a piece of crap
The twin were so strong. I trained extra for them two Sharpedos
Norman on Emerland is easy. I found Makuhita pretty hard with Vital Throw.
I wanna mention with Raihan: when doing the championship, he sends out a Torkoal first. Because he predicts you'll use an ice type for his other dragon types.
Based raihan
Or a fairy type, fire resists fairy and while that torkoal never got to attack me, I assume it knows smog.
Fortunately, I only used my Ice Pokémon against his Flygon. The other dragons (save for Duraludon) were swept with Hatterene.
That’s why I got a gyrados and gave it ice beam to handle dragon types. But I sent out a hatterene first because yeah, I was expecting a dragon type LMAO
While he was correct in that assumption, my ice type was Mamoswine with Earthquake. That Torkoal didn't even get two seconds.
“You’re gengar is dead”
Me: it’s a ghost type it’s already dead
Mr Banana Head *your
@@rainyaj4015 No, he is wrong. You're means you are. "You are gengar is dead" makes no sense. "Your gengar is dead" is correct
And poison so it's double dead
@@Akyure correct
A Trevenant in the anime that Kukui knew as a kid was revealed to have died and Acerola's Mimikyu is an actual ghost so... Ghost types CAN die...
Earthquake: *hits everyone*
Me who identifies as a bird keeper trainer: I don’t have such weaknesses.
Nugget the dragon master? Nay, nugget the bird keeper!
*wheeze*
@@makronie9894 Fun fact Nugget has his own ending and the route to have it is a big reference to TCG
I'm sorry, is this some Flying Type joke that I'm too Levitated to understand?
That level of genjutsu don't work on me
Whitney tip: use x attacks when miltank comes out and it should take one or two hits before rollout gets too good
Or use a female Pokemon instead male to avoid Attract lol
Another tip use heracross bc it learns brick break at lvl 19
@@heatherbota827 only in gen 4
@@pauloovl Ik know but I mean in hgss when gen 4 was already made
Another trick is to use Sand Attack and make her miss. Rollout builds damage off of consecutive hits. If Miltank misses, Rollout resets back to base damage.
I remember in Let’s Go Eevee when I saw Sabrina was the next gym. I just looked at my over-leveled new Alolan Persian and smiled with delight.
I just bruit forced my way through Sabrina's gym in my playthoutgh of Leafgreen
I never got to play any of the pokemon games, only fan made ones (being a child sucks sometimes) but I was able to watch Indigo League and X and Y. I remember being terrified of Olympia and Sabrina. Olympia looked intimidating as f*ck and Sabrina freaking turned Misty and Brock into dolls. Of course now, I'm not that scared of them since I know that by the time I challenge them, I'm already so f*cking overpowered that I'll just one shot everything.
@Junaiper Blastoise’s stab moves are insane
I had a level 30 Blastoise and got half the health down on a level 50 pokemon with type advantage
Pikachu beat most of Sabrina's team but I also just sent in blastoice
I never understood why everyone thought Whitney’s miltank was hard to beat until I replayed gen two without an extremely over leveled typhlosion with rollout
lowkey i beat miltank in crystal with metronome and headbutt. I literally rolled SACRED FIRE... AND IT DID LIKE 2 DAMAGE.
What
i have a name i just blew up a pincone
"you're only option is Gengar" but it is one of those stupid trade evolution so if you cannot trade then you don't even have that option
Dual GBA and duplicate save files of emulators
@@thaiangquoc9505 that is if you're on an emulator rather than a Gameboy or DS
@Levi Wurgler the comment above you got it right.
Or buy another same console but different game
I have a brother and he has his own device so this wasn't a problem lol
What made Jolteon so nasty was that even though his attack was low, his speed (for the time) was stupidly high, with him only tying with Electrode for the fastest Pokemon in the game. Back in Gen 1, Speed governed your crit chance, which meant that it only took a couple of boosters to get a Jolteon that crit-shot every time. This, couple with the fact that he had Pin Missle, meant that he pretty much wrecked any Psychic type he came across, even Mewtwo. Now, Jolteon's good but not fantastic, but back in the day, Doc J was a friggin' rock star.
After 25 years, he's still my boy.
Electrode has always been faster and boosts didn't increase your crit rate in Gen 1 since it was governed only by the base speed of a Pokemon, not their total speed.
And remember.. crits hit at x2 in gen 1, rather than the current x1.5
A RBY Jolteon with 2 Agility boosts would destroy everyone except Rhydon and Golem.
Pin Missile sucks you’re better off using thunderbolt and even then it’s not that great considering every psychic in Gen 1 has amazing special defense
@@bigroaststyrone8135 Pin Missile sucks NOW, but back in the OG's it could OHKO Mewtwo. I know because I did it. Multiple times. My biggest problem with catching Mewtwo in Gen 1was that I kept knocking it out. For the record, I used my MB on Moltres because he was an annoying little cuss that broke out of over 200 pokeballs while PARALYZED AND ASLEEP!
@@1B1ueyedwo1f yeah but catching it in the wild and fighting other people are 2 very different things. Fought plenty of Jolteons with pin missile back in the day with Mewtwo and none of them could touch it. That team had Mewtwo and Alakazam as my leads and they shredded Jolteon with his piss poor attack
Whitney: beats me 100X
Me: Beats her 1 time
Whitney: cries
Me: *surprised Pikachu meme*
When you realize that the surprised pikachu meme was actualy a ditto meme all along
*surprised ditto meme
That is so true
She's use to winning but that's why I go to her gym when 3 out of 5 of my pokemon are at least lv100
The thinking one with the pi one
I think for most people it was just that Whitney was a shock. I just learned from this video that Miltank has great stats. Back then I was shocked I thought the game was cheating and overpowering it. You just don't see powerful normal types. But once that initial shock is over she goes down easy.
Oh, that's why you sent out all of those polls. Cool
My reaction as well!
Actually it's quite obvious
Wow its so complicated what a plot twist
Naturally
@@blitz5183 The fact he wanted to gather data from us before the video though
You knew this was coming after seeing those polls almost daily
I'm astounded that you didn't mention clay at all. His excadrill is outrageously powerful.
Fr people are complaining about simple pivots instead of a speedy powerful ground type.
I don’t understand how people think that excadrill is powerful, I faint it in usually one or two shots with my servine.
@@-.Lizard_eggs.- I don’t understand how people think that Emolga is powerful, I faint it in usually one or two shots with my Watchog.
Me: votes on the polls Michael puts out
Michael: Ah yes, its all coming together...
People: We think that Elesa is the hardest BW gym leader
Me, who lost to Lenora 78 times in 5 playthroughs: you WHAT?
Edit: Lenora might open with Leer instead of retaliate or hypnosis which can make the battle easy as pie. But when she murders you in a turn or puts you to sleep you're in for a big trouble
Ameno Ameno Latire Who did you choose? I chose Snivy, by then a Servine, and if you teach it Leach Seed, battle is super easy
I didn’t really have any problems with any of the gym leaders in BW personally. I just used krokorok and used rock slide
I want to kill her Emolga 😭
Elesa was lretty easy for me as I had my Krokorok spamming Bite and Rocl tomb against the Emolga...
I agree all the way the fighting types unless u evolved tepig were bad
Mikey: "no new areas between norman and flanery"
Hoenn desert: am i a joke to you?
I mean honestly...yeah it is. The wild Pokemon there are only level 20 or so, and the five trainers aren't much stronger. Yes it is a bit of training that I did forget to mention, but it's not much training.
@@MandJTV will you be making a community day pokemon go video today?
I usually skip the desert lol
I don't know if it works in Gen 3, but in the remakes, you can catch a Trapinch or other ground type in the desert and use Dig to completely avoid his Slakings' attacks.
@@Deaderthanadoorknob2 before the post game i didnt know there was a dessert
14:52- Another point that added to Gengar's dismay. Back then, there was no physical/special split and the kind of move it was, depended on its type. Gengar was a special attacker, while shadow ball was physical upto gen 3. So it was useful only for the versatility it had with the TMs it could learn. Same case for Starmie
And also the Shadow Ball TM is only available by purchasing one in the Game Corner
Allister's Japanese name is Onion.
She looks like an onion
@@gxdml__ *he
R34: interesting
@@thegreatdragonemperor2209 what? There is no way
NO ITS REAL AAAAAAAAAAAA
It made me so happy when he said Normal-type leaders are so hard, cause I’m a Normal-type specialist (with the exception of any given starter) and I organize Gym Battles with my friends. However, I hardly ever get taken seriously as a battler since I use the most “sub-par” type available. Glad to see someone taking Normal-type trainers seriously ^-^
I know someone who is a normal type specialist
Normal type is one of my favourite types because they are surprisingly tanky and tend to be quite versatile...
Cillian Stewart Thats why I use a Snorlax with a certain move set I’ve pre-calculated many times. It makes it my 2nd strongest Pokémon and a total troll in battles.
Freezing Glaceon it doesn't matter what is your type-specialty what matters is the skill and the team
Freezing Glaceon i know type specialty doesn’t say you’re weak the ice type is bad defensively but good offensively
Michael"her Clefairy is a pushover"
I have bad memories of that Clefairy. One it's metronome got TRANSFORM and I to battle not a Clefairy, but a QUILAVA
I- I‘m laughing at you so hard right now-
I‘M SORRY
It got rock wrecker against my quilava once, had no clue that was a move before that, will never forget it afterwards.
If it make you feel better, metronome rolled against Machop, Onix, Geodude, Qulava (all female) Psychic, Giga Drain, Maganatude (10!) and then, Hydro Cannon
Ishaan Aditya Chaudhry how did you get a Zapdos so early?
Once for me it’s metronome turned into FREAKING AEROBLAST!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I was one who was guilty of just enjoying overleveling and slamming through enemies. I was concerned more with getting certain things done than losing. Though I only ever played Emerald first, and then LeafGreen later, so I've only had two game experiences. I can see where it's a lot harder if you just go right to the gym battling without a ton of grinding.
I do that too I hate losing and losing money in video games. I struggled so much against normal type champions, Kingdras and the extremely annoying emolgas. I always try to have at least 5/10 levels higher to appreciate the game
Michael: Rants about Miltank
Aura Guardian: *Laughs in Metronome*
Did you put this here because the memes about ban for meme review?
@RainyDay Studios actually no... never visited the subreddit. It was merely a comment to laugh at
Michael: *complains about Raihan being a hard double battle even with Earthquake*
Me: *laughs in Excadrill/Togekiss combo*
@Brenton Taylor My Lucario made little work of him. His Glaring Sandaconda might’ve been an issue, but I wasn’t close to losing my team. If anything, Opal was terrible even if my Drapion crit her Alcreamie.... stupid age question
@@rainydaystudios2674 Have you not seen season 1 of the metrenome league
Video idea: who's the best gym leaders of each type
Owen Critchell I bet you $1000000000000 piers is the best dark leader
I’ll give $1000000000000000000000 if it isn’t piers
Norman vs whitney
Flannery vs blaine
Roxanne vs Gordie vs Brock vs Roark
nobody:
gamefreak during the 3ds era: "why do we allow pokemon to have 4 moves again? yeah, give all the gym leaders 3 moves"
thewaddledee918 yeah that was a weird thing that happened
I didn’t realize this until recently, but Hapu’s Flygon has 2 moves.....
What?
@use code nation Imagine a Pokemon only being able to use struggle lol
The Kirby Guy that exists in Pokémon Clover
thewaddledee918 im sorry but, thats kinda bad game design. 10 year olds play these games, not 2
Another reason Whitney is tough- I remember playing SoulSilver and I caught a mareep and a gastly. I remember getting to Whitney and thinking that I would just confuse her Pokemon to death with gastly, seeing as normal moves dont hit ghost type Pokemon, but in SoulSilver, her miltank has an ability that allows it to hit ghost type, so it stomped me to death.
You had the right mon for her, you just didn't know it- paralyse and hit her with a powerful special attacker
@@zyaicobthat's a good tip, her miltank has more defense than special defense
@@zyaicobshes gonna cure herself with milk drink
@@arslaanpasha3334 that's where the paralysis comes in handy
@@zyaicobYou gotta Paralyze twice because of the Lum Berry
Michael: And Miltank had the rudest move set ever.
Me: You can see Mikeys passionate about this.
Yup, Sabrina was everyone's nightmare in red, blue and yellow. And on top of that, Blue had a lv 59 alakazam when you fought him to become the champion.
Atleast u have a fully evolved team when u reach elite4
@@flare3877 Yeah, one has to try to finish that Alakazam as fast as possible with high-damage attacks, like solar beam for example.
Well good thing that Alakazam doesn't have Calm Mind
i found blues alakazam harder to beat than sabrinas
@@flare3877 I’m playing through red for the first time on virtual console and I’m stuck with a Kadabra since I don’t have anyone to trade with
I knew that Whitney’s mil tank was horrible, so I grinded my cyndaquil to a typhlosion at the third gym
Same here. I trained my Totodile like a mad man. So when I reached her gym, it already evolved to Feraligatr lol. I also had Nidorino with double kick as a back up plan.
For me it never was and I used cyndaquil as well
That was completely not necessary but okay, I beat it easily with just a lv 26 Quilava
The tables have turned
To defeat her I used my quilava and spamed smokescreen and started ataking, thats it
Fun strategy I used for beating Elesa on my last gen 5 run was by using a dwebble. I didn't have many options for doing damage to her emolgas beyond some sort of rock type, but since I already had an unevolved sandile and wasn't really trying to level up a decent rock type pokemon for one battle I realized I could use a dwebble I caught in the desert resort. Only problem was that this was less than optimal seeing as dwebbles offensive capability is well known to be subpar, but I also remembered that it had smack down. I ended up using dwebble to smack down her emolgas and then switching into sandile once the emolga was grounded. Ending up working decently well, and it felt good being able to finally hit her with ground moves.
Huh.
I over leveled in Black 2 and had Palpitoad deal with everything in White.
In Crystal you have 3 options for Fighting-types. If you get extremely lucky, the odd egg turns into a Tyrogue, and it evolves at level 20,so whatever it turns into, you could use that on Whitney.
I was so lucky to get a Female Slugma from the Egg that Primo gives you in Violet City in SoulSilver
Tyrogue and the Hitmons don’t get fighting moves until much later. Tyrogue itself can only learn Tackle, Hitmonlee doesn’t get Jump Kick until level 26, Hitmonchan is waiting until level 32 for Mach Punch and Hitmontop is waiting until level 49 for Triple Kick.
Or you catch a Drowzee and trade it for a Machop
@@zero312 Trading Drowzee for the female Machop is in Gold and Silver. If you're playing Crystal, an Abra can be traded for the female Machop. The trade described above occurs in the Goldenrod Department Store for all three games.
Everyone: *questioning his choices*
Me: **wondering why dewgong learns signal beam**
This person is asking the real questions.
Guess they just threw it in with Aurora beam
me: wondering why marowak and rhyhorn has lightningrod ability
me: wondering why rotom-fan has levitate ability
@@jayveeberido3521 it can use its own air to float lol
Mikey: Norman was hard
Me: Haha Combusken go Pew
Mikey: NO!!! You can’t just cheese the hardest gen 3 gym leader!
Me: haha hm slaves go DIG.
Lol my sentiments exactly! Combusken + Double Kick = Easy win. Truant makes it easier.
I grinded so much when I went to Norman’s gym I had a level 50 blazaken
Double team Gardevoir
@@theancientone7798 this one gets it! Double team calm mind psychic fucking demolishes that, hell most gyms.
First run through of Silver back in the day that Miltank hard stopped me for quite some time.
11:50
But what really makes Norman difficult..... *is that he's your father*
You beat me in a Gym battle! No dessert for two weeks!
Toughest Emotional battle
I am your father, luke
... (hiding my sceptile)
Poor May, she's the only main protag to get a dad, and all he wants to do is beat the ever living crap out of her Pokémon
Whitney’s Miltank: “I’m one of toughest Pokémon to beat!”
My Quagsire: “Are you sure about that?”
Also ur quagsire: gets knocked out by rollout
Josue4glx no it doesn’t.
@@josue2662 Do you know how much bulk quagsire has? He's not gonna be dying to a resisted rollout anytime soon.
Yeah Quagsire is more likely to have issues with Morty and his obnoxious sleep strats than anything Whitney could even dream of throwing at it.
My female starter: yea no
Newbies: "Normal Type Pokemon are the weakest type!"
Me: *Laughs in Whitney and Norman*
Lenora too
Normal types are incredible! Pure Normal types have an immunity to Ghost, just one weakness to Fighting, and massive movepools that would make other Mons jealous. Also plenty of powerhouses are Normal types, Like Snorlax, Zangoose, Kangaskhan and Stoutland, to name a few.
I think normal type is underrated because they seem kinda bland. But in fact they are so good to use in general. I'll do an only normal run anyday. I think I'll enjoy it...
@@cintronproductions9430 Tru. Stoutland
Cheren... need I say more
I travelled a lot as a kid and usually had level 50 Pokémon by the 2nd or 3rd gym by half sleeping and half button mashing in tunnels or penned areas, scyther was always really cool on the tv show I didn’t realize how weak he was, he was always one of the first Pokémon I got and pretty much never left my party, it makes me feel kind of good how as almost all of the kids around me playing Pokémon and the kids you play on Wi-Fi only use or like the legendaries and think of the rest of the Pokémon as an afterthought where my Pokémon are always 20-40 levels past the legendaries when they are available and they are my afterthought, although theirs nothing like getting the perfect breeding rolls and smacking a child with a max speed jolteon using double team and mid to low level attack moves they use in the show while they are using a full team of legendaries with moves I’ve never even heard of but can’t land 😂 that being said though theirs nothing like the feeling of devestation coming across a better breeder and getting wrecked by a marill
Ah yes, Whitney's Miltank, the only pokemon that can cause a kid to say "I wish my pokemon was gay"
HAHAHHA
lol xD
Azurill evolving into Marill: I gotcha fam
Or straight female
Whitney : *Laughs in attract*
"Fantina is the most difficult gym leader in platinum"
Me, who recently started playing through platinum for the first time in years and just got to Fantinas gym: chuckles _I'm in danger_
Yes
@@bearrett_8783 she is so weak. It's beyond me why you would think that.
@@sarthakarora3212 I haven't played any Pokemon games before but still like it
she's actually easy if you have the right Pokemon.
This took me about three days to beat Fantina. Thats pretty freakin long for platinum
“But then you notice their levels.”
“That escalated quickly. I mean that really got out of hands fast...”
I always thought Sabrina was extremely easy. You just needed anything that knew Bodyslam, Rockslide, Earthquake, or Mega Punch other than Nidoqueen. Or a Charizard with Slash. Or a slightly overleveld Pidgeor or Fearow. Or just solo the game with your starter. You had a lot of options.
Misty and Koga were much more difficult.
Whitney's Miltank: *uses rollout
My traded Machop: showtime
Is that a refernce to pokemon battle royale?
@@TOG285 ah, i see you're a man of culture too
terminalmontage reference lol
Porygon-Z why aren’t you a phsychic type
?
He looked he's about to cry when talking about Whitney and her Miltank... We know that feel, bro.
I’m surprised Clay isn’t on this list. He’s known as the locke-killer by a lot of challenge run creators
Easy to counter him tbh. A solid grass or water type can deal with him well, and if you have a good fighting type, Excadrill is easy
@@nickolasbittar5843 Still isn't that much of a cakewalk. If you're playing on set mode, good luck getting your fighting type to survive on the switch.
Lenoras watchhog is evil, it knows RETALIATE
@@unevennoble9363 so does Norman's Pokemon
@@huntman0883 There's slight difference between Lenora and Norman that make Lenora harder than Norman..
Curiously, the thing I struggled the less in all of HeartGold was Whitney, I didn't know that miltank was such a big deal since I defeated it in two moves or so.
i don't undestand this myth that whitney is hard at all. you have many ways of beating her, she's only got 2 pokemon and they're at pretty low levels. even in hardcore nuzlockes she's pretty easy
@@piotr253 Only her rollout is the problem nothing else.
@@Windows11Sucks A female Geodude would be the best choice to make it easier.
@@JCDragon2819 true
You guys gotta understand, I was like 6 or 7 years old and the only pokemon I leveled was my Quilava because "fire types are the coolest". Whitney completely destroyed me until I just leveled up my Quilava to where it could kill Miltank before rollout got out of control. At no point did it occur to me to simply change pokemon, let alone use a fighting type when I didn't even know they were super effective against normal types
15:59
Michael: (signal beam) which can only be learned by one, volbeat, and two...
Me: illumise
Micheal: Dewgong
Me:
Magnemite: *cries in mystery dungeon*
Me : my ultra moon audino had signal beam...
*visible confusion*
„Three words: Whitney. Miltank. Rollout“ - Nathaniel Bandy
I think you are on the wrong video buddy -_-
Me - thank you heracross(heartgold)
Yes
And I have two words miltank SUCKS
The Plasma Warrior true
Michael: Whitney is the hardest
Me: Okay (beats on first try in silver version) Huh? What are you taking about (Gets destroyed on heartgold) HOLY SH
HeartGold was my first Pokemon game I chose cyndaquill. I loved rollout
my goal was to prove chikorita was an absolute boss and could destroy everything with its raw hecking power and support pokemon (Echo the eevee, mory the skarmory, pixel the ponyta, Ursula the dragonair/dratini, and swoosh the suicune)
Bayleef\Meganium sweeped Whitney, destroyed Claire (with the help of swoosh) and scoffed at lance. Now were taking on the kanto region together, with a replacement for mory. (I'll have to check) Echo is set on being an umbreon, while Ursula is training hard. Wish us luck!
@@juniper5604 You went all the way to the league and still havent evolved your Eevee? Thats tough lol
@@ethanyuki2654 it's really hard to get the stones in crystal and I didnt know how to do friendship until recently, and plus when echo started using sand attack\ leer and then started quick attacking it was a threat in the league (I accidentally put it at the front of my party) I already had a water type (Swoosh) a fire type (Pixel ) and wasnt In need of an electric type cause had ice and rock moves fir flying and meganium for grass. (Water and flying) I might do espeon but the team is doing just fine against poison and fighting types. My meganiums surprisingly most useful move is cut, which can't hit ghosts, so I'm probably gonna get everyone fully evolved and then train them up to be on par with meganium (they're all in the low 30s while Fern is level 60)
I played a heartgold NUZLOZKE.
I had to sack of a nidoran female I didn’t want to use, but it took two turns.
Miltank always uses rollout on the second turn.
I used DISABLE on miltank, then got lucky with stomp and beat it.
For Emerald, I think it was Tate & Liza. Claydol was bulky as heck and you're not taking it down in one shot, so you better survive Earthquake. Trying to outsmart it with Flying types gets them smacked by AncientPower, levitators like Gengar and Weezing go down to Psychic, and if it sets up Light Screen, you lose significant power from Grass and Water moves that you might need later. If you spend time on Claydol, Xatu gets turns to set up Calm Mind then Psychic. Confuse Ray can force you to waste turns hitting yourself, and Sunny Day powers up Solrock. Lunatone and Solrock can be easier, but not easy. Lunatone has Xatu's Calm Mind/Psychic trick, with Hypnosis replacing Confuse Ray, and Light Screen still lowering your special moves. Solrock is just purely Sunny Day/Solarbeam/Flamethrower/ Psychic. If your team has been weakened by the other three, then its coverage will hit pretty much everything, with Flamethrower getting a boost if you dare to use Steel types in a Psychic gym. Their Ace Pokemon are at level 43, ten levels higher than Winona's Altaria, so you will have to do mandatory grinding. Dark types like Absol/Mightyena/Sableye/Crawdaunt are not defensive powerhouses, so they will need to be leveled up significantly to survive hits, and Water types with Ice Beam get stymied by Light Screen and Sunny Day, in addition to having the power of their Surfs cut (because of double-battle mechanic) and still hurting your ally. The Solrock and Lunatone have Sitrus Berry if you can't take them out in one hit, and Hyper Potions (4?) on any Pokémon may cost you the battle (but full healing on Claydol hurts the worst).
Overall very fiendish construction. Nuzlockers, level cap challengers, single Pokemon challenges (with a filler second Pokemon), and no item challengers hate them for good reasons.
I feel Morty deserves at least a shout-out with that whole Gengar Dream Eater combo
Wubba lubba dub dub
Chuck loves using Hypnosis Focus Punch combo...
@@davyt0247 Ooh that one too, now that I think about it HGSS gym leaders loved combos
Caleb S they sure did. I had to use Haunter to beat Chuck. I actually lost the first time I fought Chuck, had Kadabra and Pigyotto, but focus punch kept landing crits, that attack also hits like a truck!
EDUARDO HERNANDEZ-MEDINA no
Everyone: Ugh Sabrina is so tough to beat.
Me: laughs in 1million X attacks against her abra
Feel free to steal for aspitpiay
Goop God exactly why I didn’t vote her
Everyone: Sabrina is so tough
Me: only in Let's Go Pikachu for Let's Go games (I say they are gen 8)
@@Wildcard_Ninja no, they are not gen 8 because gen 8 WASN'T EVEN FRIGGIN ANOUNCED BY THE TIME THE LET'S GO GAMES WERE RELEASED
I hate u ur so stupid
DMGaming like if anything they are 7.5 as they are literally filler between the main series games
Michael: Slaking is tough to beat!
Me: *laughs in pokemon that knows protect*
Me: *Laughs in pokemon that knows Dig*
@@knakferno3180 hadn't really thought about that one
The Shiny Arcaninehunter me: laughs in Pokémon who knows fly
Jelbe Cornelis you don’t have fly at that point of the game
R0cky505 oh, sorry
I never found Norman tough at all for the slakings. All I needed was protect on anything which usually torkoal got and I just protected on non-truant turns.
Tate and Liza definitely got the cake there for me.
It was tricky for me too due to me having the water starter thinking It'll beat them with just him and then I remember the sun/solarbeam strategy
@@geekleveling5012 I Pokémon gym I only have trouble with the normal type gym leaders Norman - Whitney and the dragon type gym leaders Claire and raihan sometimes the electric type poke mon gym leaders ihono and elesa.
When I decided I wanted to use Heracross in my new SoulSilver playthrough, I made sure catch a female just for Whitney's Miltank. Shout out to Ceri the Heracross though, that was the easiest that Miltank has ever been.
Plus it’s not like Heracross loses value after that one battle. It pulls it’s weight for the entire game.
@@yerman0564 Heracross is great! I can't believe it took me this long to use one.
Michael: Greetings Pokefans!
Subtitles: You're Reaching For Pens!
It only works for auto generated
Once for me it was "Your reaching the crappy fans! (or greetings you stinky fans
It did not work
@@videomakermiller8188 You have to do at 0:00 and they have to be Auto Generated
Who also checked
Me training Shedinja specifically to deal with Norman's Linoone in Emerald: "They called me a madman."
or just... evolve a nincada?
Fun fact, I had a Shedinja in Alpha Sapphire and he literally took down Norman's gym by itself. Didn't even notice that at first... guess I've been lucky or they were unprepared lol
I let my kids play the game for me when I was focused elsewhere I went in with my team nearly level 50 because they weren't looking for gyms but just battling for hours for a few weeks losing interest and walking away a lot some times
lmao
@@LordRemiem
I also found Norman really easy in Omega Ruby. Not for any reason in particular, he just wasn't that hard
I had the brilliant idea of doing a mono grass team after gym 2 in scarlet/violet. And then I met Larry's starraptor...
Everyone: Norman is the hardest Gym Leader in Hoenn, hands down.
Me: **laughs in Hariyama, Breloom, Combusken and Lairon**
Seriously, as much as I main Emerald (Tate and Liza are the WORST), I find Winona the hardest to beat. Her goddamn Altaria. Against her, you have neither any Ice-type damaging moves available at this point (EDIT: other than Ice Beam that can be bought in Mauville Game Corner, but that’s a LOT of luck grinding!) nor assurance that your Rock (EDIT: Altaria resists Electric :/) types will survive her Earthquakes. Quite the opposite.
Yeah, totally agree. You can acquire so many fighting types that I never viewed Norman as a threat. That Altaria and Earthquake though *shudders*
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Tyranitar has 4x weakness to Fighting, but I see your point. HOWEVER, (a well-leveled) Hariyama and Lairon are bulky as hell, Breloom is somehow able to survive from Mega Drains and Leech Seed, and Combusken... well, he’s Combusken, his type advantage is damn useful.
L A U G H S I N D I G
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Easy? Probably not. EasIER? Most definitely.
Omg u just reminded me about the mother fucking altaria
Michael: the ingame machop trade is the best option for miltalk
Me nuzlocking soulsilver and having that machop be critted by a nidoran: i'm in danger
Talks about fantina.
Me: Remembering the Regenade Platinum game. "I agree."
will o wisp is SO annoying
not to mention Mismagius's Psybeam
Whats a regenade?
@@natsudragneel188 an xtremely difficult platinum rom hack
Oof this was annoying, I'm trying to shinylocke on the 1/512 version and I'm past Wake with a single Rapidash 😂
Yo when I was younger I never finished the game because I got sad and quit...
I think replace Winona with Juan in Emerald. The Kingdra loves to use double team. Once Kingdra is low, he either uses a potion or rest. Cancelling out its status condition. And it’s evasiveness doesn’t get diminished! I still think Norman is harder. But Juan is most certainly annoying!
I hate that Kingdra. It swept my entire team because I didn't want to use Rayquza since I though it would be cheating. My entire team was in the low 50s when I first fought him. THAT DANG THING KEPT SPAMMING DOUBLE TEAM AND REST! 🤬 i hate that thing
Wallace learned from Juan, so I would expect his mentor to be as tough as him.
there are 8 gens, imagine a region with all these gym leaders
Unova
Oh my god🤔🤔🤔🤔☹️
That would be like an MMORPG. It would be great if we got it but I can’t see nintendo ever doing that.
@@UnclePhil1112 i said imagine not do it
Alola without gyms:
“Raihan is the strongest Galar gym leader”
Me who litteraly demolished his team:
👁👄👁
Same i one shotted the whole team using cinderace and inteleon
Same I ohkod his entire team
I think "strongest" is relative here.
Bea should've gotten the title of the strongest Sword gym leader
I ohkod all the gym leaders. I NEVER LOST...
Michael: Clair has OP pkmn
Poll: Whitney wins by a landslide
Michael: I agree so much
*I LIKE HOW YOUR PROFILE IS STONJOURNER*
MILTANK!!!!!!!!
@@melissaardon2294 Lmao
I hated Lenora in my playthrough of white she beat me like three times before I got her while I didn’t really struggle with Elise
I hated how lenora would spam retaliate with her watchog
The hardest gym leader i remember putting up a real challenge, and took multiple battles to beat...is Fantina.
Lol took only 2 tries
1st attempt , her mismagius did a critical shadow ball
She was the hardest to me as a kid , but now that I know type match ups better it was easier to beat her but still hard
Me in sheild is nessa I lossed alot
i played pearl first, and i just one shot all her pokémon with a gengar with shadow ball 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
@@rebeccayin5832 Well whoopty damn do for you. The rest of us were getting our asses handed to us 😂😂
For representatives for the hardest Kanto Gym Leader, Misty would be more logical than Brock or Surge; Starmie has stats on par with a fully evolved starter with powerful Water attacks. Brock's Pokémon suffer from low Special defense so they can go down with Fire attacks.
If you have a venasaur or a Pikachu misty is easy as hell. If you have a charmander as a starter you will need to over level it before beating Brock.
@@sachinrao7327 no it’s not, you’re not gonna have a venusaur by the 2nd gym, you’re gonna have an ivysaur, which has base 80 special and base 60 speed. Misty’s starmie has base 100 special and base 115 speed. It’s outspeeding you, tanking your vine whips, (all grass moves are special in gen 1) and doing good damage. Pikachu is even worse with base 50 special and base 90 speed. Misty will take out a Pikachu easier than an ivysaur because electric doesn’t resist water, and even if you live a hit, all electric moves are special in gen 1. And even in gen 3, her starmie has base 85 defense and 85 special defense, but all grass and electric moves are still special. That starmie will not die
@@XGame80 I cleared the people on the bridge, the rival and all the players upto bill before coming going to misty but I cleared her pretty easily on my first attempt itself. And I didn't even have to remove my chameleon lol
@@sachinrao7327 yea, it is easy if you beat everyone past the bridge
@@XGame80 I mean. It's not like I am putting in any extra effort or anything I am just going with the game lol
Michael: adds wiona to list
Me: *altaria sweeping flashbacks*
I won in first try only once. Gardevior + 3 calm mind + thanderbolt
DoubleMask PL Everything changed when the Flying nation attacked...
I love Thanderbolt, it's my favorite attack.
I love thunderbolt as it can hit all the time unlike thunder which is only good in rain but for some unknown reason the best thunder users (stat wise) can't use rain dance.
Tbh tate and liza were hard to me
@@OneLegendo When I played emerald swampert swept them
I would say they clear as the toughest because there is one answer to Whitney's Milton it's called use dig every time you use dig it will stop her increasingly tough roll out
Are there any gen 2 pokemon pre-Goldenrod that learn Dig before or at level 20?
@@ohmeohmicah you can pick up the TM for Dig in the National Park just north of Goldenrod. There are plenty of Pokémon available at that point that can be taught it.
when i was a kid i had so much trouble beating fantina in platinum. i was finally able to do it by using staravia, immune to shadow ball & resistant to magical leaf
Yeah, I think the hard part was the magical leaf. Even with normal types, they would get hit hard by the magical leaf. Plus the status effects were a headache for me in Platinum.
When i fought against her, my throwaway eevee (the last one alive in my team)
Somehow managed to let me win by gods planning her last pokemon
Kolya Larson lol I had a togetic so I stalled her but her mismagius was annoying
“Nanu was hard”
*Laughs in Primarina*
Kim Nichols wait is nanu dark or ghost?
@@jaivangordon5966 dark
Oh.
Laughs in incineroar’s resistance
i used decidueye and it was easy
Michael: “Whitney is why I hate Miltank so much.”
MBF S1 Viewers: “What about the Aura Gaurdian?”
*CURRENT MOOD*
lol
i literally was about to post the same comment
😂😂😂
Just to let yall know, miltank is faster than rayquaza
i dont think whitneys miltank is that insane, if you caught a geodude at the start of the game she becomes insanely easy, geodude eats miltank for breakfast, you can even use its own strategy against her and rollout on miltank for free, geodude is insanely resistant against miltanks attacks, if you both start using rollout at the same time, geodude wins every time. croconaw also beats it with rage/fury cutter. clefairy however can be pretty bad if your unlucky, it can pull stab explosion and if your using geodude it can use hydropump or something, its pretty trolly.
You can get a female Machop in Goldenrod specifically for her gym, so I don't think she should be classified as "hard" if the game hands you her perfect counter lol
Everyone: Whitney is super difficult!
Me: *laughs in female totodile*
Me: *laughs in Muscle, the female machop*
Laughs in female chikorita
And metronome togetic (he killed that cow with guillotine)
Me: *laughs in smokescreen*
Me laughs in muscle and my quilava
*LAUGHS IN FEMALE THUNDER WAVE FLAAFY*
Caption: "You're reaching for the pen. Michael here."
Me who is actually reaching for the pen: who told you?
Wait what
@@ROYEWITHNOE auto captions
Linder Montejo i know
People who look at the community posts, we all knew this was coming.
People who look at the Twitter posts also knew it was coming
I cottoned on to it after the third poll
Isabella Lee the ipad version doesn’t get community posts
Yepp
Hi Michael
Michael: All three still know Volt Switch, and that strategy is still a giant pain.
Me: *Using krokorok were he was immune to volt switch until excadrill*
Electic Gym Leader: Voltswitch Tactic
Me: Hehe ground type throws rock too
4:30 Jolteon after hearing this: Hi Everyone, it's a pleasure to be on your show today!
Oh! Noticed that
The floor tentacles are drowning me!
When you realize your dad is the only hardest MALE gym leader across all regions...
Until sun and moon
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
#girlpower
Not true
@@nathanmeta6769 how?
@@CrazyEmilykitty girl power lol,get a life
For Gen 3 Kanto here's what I would recommend for Sabrina.
#1. Use the Magnemite line. It's the only Steel type you'll have acess to and you can catch one before you fight Sabrina. Steel resists Psychic so you'll at least have a defensive advantage against her.
#2. Use Jolteon, but don't evolve it until level 30. At level 30 Eevee learns bite, a dark move that in Gen 3 is special. Jolteon has high special attack and speed so it having access to a dark move and having high speed means you might go first with it and if you're lucky Bite might make Alaksam flinch a few times.
For Whitney my best strategy is using smoke screen on her Miltank if you picked Cyniquill as a starter. Hit her with as many smoke screens as you can to lower her accuracy as much as you can.
I'd say Snorlax is the best Sabrina counter in FRLG. Huge HP and special defense with access to a physical Shadow Ball that her Pokemon can't defend against with Calm Mind spams. Also, Bite is so weak that a STAB Thunderbolt will do more damage off of Jolteon than Bite will.
7:19 - "While her Clefairy is a pushover, her Miltank is infamous."
Crystal speedrunners: ohko's miltank with lv21 croconaw
Also crystal speedrunners:
"clefairy metronome: leech seed+sandstorm, you literally just watch yourself slowly die";
"clefairy metronome: fire blast+burn"
Well, that's an annoying what a luck
clefairy once hit my heracross with a horn drill
i remember my first playthrough of black 2. I didn't understand type matchups so i hyperlevelled my pig and powered through the game. Elesa was incredibly tough to beat with that but turns out, with enough determination and a roided fire pig, you are invincible. For those wondering, by the time i took on the elite four, Emboar was LV80
Dude I pretty much did the same thing my first time, BW2 were my first games and Emboar destroyed almost the entire game lmao.
I respect the grind, my first game was Pokemon Red and I had a level 73 Charizard by the end.
I did the same thing with my Lucario in W2 lmaooo that thing neve left my team. By the time i got to e4 i had maxed out its pp on close combat and while i didnt understand type matchups much yet, i DID know i could ohko Grimsley's entire team and by repeated failures because my entire strategy was basically just "rely on lucario" it was lv100 by the time i beat the game with help and pokemon from my cousin 😭
To be fair, the first 4 gens were way, way easier to just solo with one poké you gave all the Exp, SE/EVs and TMs than trying to balance a full team of 6.
Gen 5 is, with the diminished Exp gain at higher levels and infinitely reusable TMs and opposing boss pokémon finall starting to have actual movesets and nasty coverage, probably the first gen that starts approaching "it's worth having multiple pokémon in your team even if you'll have to grind for a bit".
I had a lvl 71 leaf starter pokemon before 8th gym, I dont remember its name in pokemon xy
Pretty surprised Misty was never mentioned as a "tough" gym leader. I seriously underestimated her because of the anime. Her staryu is pretty tough, but her starmie is very fast and strong(well, it was OU in gen 1 and 3). I had two counters- pikachu and bulbasaur and she SWEEPED my team multiple times. In gen 1, she also uses an X-defend to increase starmie's defense. Imagine if she had confusion or something on that starmie....
Agreed, if you don’t have an almost equally leveled counter type her Starmie stomps.
@@mya5582I had lvl 23 pikachu and I still got wrecked
I remember playing heartgold, and whitney stopped me from making any progress for a few days, despite the fact I got lucky with my totodile being female (so miltank couldnt use attract)
There are couple of ways to beat her so I would lower her accuracy and paralyze her Miltank then wear her out with my other Pokémon then beat her that way. If she uses heal bell, I'll have to reset the game.
"Elesa is so tough."
Laughs in Krokorok with rock tomb.
Bone rush lucario*
For real tho?!?!? She’s easy with him
I swept her literally 2 days ago with the krok when I did a replay
@@okok-oc4ko you drunk she has an emolga
What would an emolga do when you already koed all of her other pokes?
"Fantina was extra difficult in Platinum!"
*looks at my team with 4 biters*
Fantina was surprisingly easy for me. My monferno was able to one shot them and it only took me 4 hours to get from Twin leaf to Heartfeald. At the same time though all of the hidden items helped a lot.
Fantina wasn’t a challenge for me because my gabite knew bite and together with its good attack stat swept through her team
@@ps4pro668 my gabite, grotle and luxio knew bite🤡
You could have a fully evolved Crobat at that point if you wanted to
"You most likely don't have a fully evolved Pokémon by this point!"
*looks at my Crobat with Bite*
"They always think they can use a ghost type"
Norman Pokemon Rubyer
25:25 Maybe an unpopular opinion, but in sword, I think gordie is on par with Raihan difficulty wise. In my nuzlocke of Pokémon sword, gordie killed my boltund, Linoone, and grimmsnarl with just his barbaracle using razor shell. That thing, at least for me, has always been a total beast. Btw I used boltund against it because I had taught it a grass move that I though would OHKO it. The other two I used to try to brute force.
Raihan: *Is* *the* *toughest*
Me with my lv 71 inteleon and lv 67 avalugg: *laughs* *in* *Blizzard* *and* *Snipe* *Shot*
Allister: Cute boi
Me: *takes* *several* *tries*
i beat rihan first try but allister gave me 10 goddamn strokes and i still have nightmares from trying to beat him
@@thedis-swanner3759 yes, he is a ghost type
In sword he gave me truble but sheld i trashferd deino and leveled to hydragon so sheld raihan gave me no truble
i n s o m n i a c
Me: *laughs in Litwick in Kabu's gym*
Also Me: *laughs even harder because I have Sword and can cheese nearly half of Bea's gym with Litwick*
I ended up steamrolling (Scolipede wasn't available, this wasn't a pun) the gyms with Lampent and Chandelure, because they're unironically one of my favorite evolution lines.
@@thedis-swanner3759 really I must be really overlevled allister was easy I was like level 40. I just destroyed every trainer and am unbeatable just like Leon. Of course I have boosted experience from Pokémon home.
Michael: Raihan is the hardest to beat in Galar
Me who one shot all of his team with Frosmoth:
I think allister was the hardest, It took me 2 try to beat her, wait, maybe him
Max Joyce I played sword, soo I trust you
@@poosnatcha If you chose Grookey,Allister would be a cakewalk and Allister is a male
Nice for the commitment to snom and frostmom
arrowslinger0909 they are realy good
I used to be so scared of fantina but once I figured out that shes weak to dark, Luxray just crunched them all to death in diamond
Also, Lenora in Black and white was another really hard normal gym in my opinion, because of her pokemon with retaliate
that fucking watchog.
I had no trouble with her.
I sweeped her team with my Golbat and Luxio.
That was me with norman in oras. Except i was thankfully ok.
My dewott just killed it with two razor shells but I had a chesto bery
I feel that in regards to the Lenora situation I remember my first playthrough of White Version I had 3 fighting types for her gym and I would REPEATEDLY get screwed over by sleep and confusion hax
I love how the two gym leaders that were narrowed down for Gen 2 both cry or get pissed off if they lose the fight.