[DIABLO 4] Doombringer Is BETTER Than You Think!

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  • @EfficientRogue
    @EfficientRogue  4 месяца назад +8

    Small mistake from my side: I calculated the Dex Damage in a slightly wrong way soo…the actual average dmg increase from 500 dex is equal to 20% (x). This means the total damage loss from doombringer is somewhere around -11% to -15% compared to a sword with Dmg per dark shroud, which is still OK imo considering the huge Damage reduction we get!
    So the idea is the same, just a bit less effective :) Sorry for the not 100% correct information

    • @PhrazeMuzik
      @PhrazeMuzik 4 месяца назад

      I want to know how this works with rogue but not other classes, doesn't seem the same on druid. You sure it's not some passive?

    • @dakotalaughlin7985
      @dakotalaughlin7985 4 месяца назад +1

      @@PhrazeMuzikdruid doesnt scale off dex. What he’s saying is doombringer’s defensive stats are so good you can take rubies out of your gear and put in gems for your class’s main stat that scales dmg.

    • @jeremiahv9305
      @jeremiahv9305 4 месяца назад

      You can make up for it by replacing Max life on regular gear with Damage% or something besides health.

  • @brave1988brave
    @brave1988brave 4 месяца назад +2

    And the All stats give also bit of armor, resource regen, resistances, crit + the extra dex gives good amount of dodge. And maybe you are able to unlock some paragon nodes with those all stats. Pretty dope actually. Thanks for the simple but usefull info! Just found one on my heartseeker.

  • @legi0n47x
    @legi0n47x 4 месяца назад +2

    I was contemplating this since I got my first uber last night, and it was this sword. Good to see I was headed the right direction.

  • @VertPlaysGames
    @VertPlaysGames 4 месяца назад +2

    I really wish the training dummy had a way of showing your actual DPS output so you could easily compare changes in your builds.

  • @tonwisniewski
    @tonwisniewski 2 месяца назад

    Cant find this weapon on the craft list of jeweler nor alchemist. Have it changed?

  • @matthewgunther782
    @matthewgunther782 4 месяца назад +5

    Using this as an Andy rogue currently. The build feels slightly clunkier after losing the aspect and some tempers, but the gain in tankiness is actually crazy. I can face tank all the top content in the game. The trade off is worth it, as the poison is still ticking for hundreds of millions after it gets going anyway.

    • @slartiste
      @slartiste 4 месяца назад

      How long do t8 hordes take you? I may try this, too

    • @matthewgunther782
      @matthewgunther782 4 месяца назад

      @@slartiste I’ve been sticking with t7’s but they are really easy, minus the occasional Desecrator 1 shotting me out of nowhere

    • @slartiste
      @slartiste 4 месяца назад +1

      @matthewgunther782 yeah those need nerfed

    • @tobfon2416
      @tobfon2416 4 месяца назад

      I play it with Andariels too. T6 was easy trying t7 today.

  • @VertPlaysGames
    @VertPlaysGames 4 месяца назад +6

    I understand the concept behind this strategy, but I think calling it a "hidden affix" can be a bit misleading. I can tell by some of the comments that people are taking that literally.

    • @EfficientRogue
      @EfficientRogue  4 месяца назад +1

      I understand that but I did not know how to name it differently. But the outcome is the same: doombringer allows you 500 more dex which many people do not realize

    • @VertPlaysGames
      @VertPlaysGames 4 месяца назад +1

      @@EfficientRogue I think the way you put it in the title is just fine, expressing that the Doombringer is better than a lot of people might think. No need to try to name it anything else 👍. Regardless, in the end I think your observations and research is helpful! I hope I get a Doombringer some day!

  • @SolidReacts47
    @SolidReacts47 4 месяца назад +1

    I’ve been using doombringer for survivability and helped me complete tier 8 horde but the bosses took forever to kill. I forgot I could slot dex instead of health I’m changing that as soon as I get home. Thanks bro.

  • @dwightschrute5592
    @dwightschrute5592 4 месяца назад

    Amazing finding and thanks for sharing! :)

  • @jasonrice6966
    @jasonrice6966 4 месяца назад +7

    Smack this on the barrage Andy's build and you are a unstoppable god.

    • @JeremyDrifts_
      @JeremyDrifts_ 4 месяца назад

      Haha gunna try this out. It be insane if I still do 2b Dot Damage

    • @jasonrice6966
      @jasonrice6966 4 месяца назад +2

      @JeremyDrifts_ I'm smashing t8 IH with it. I get home I'll tell you what my damage Is at. But I do have Andarials, T Might, and Starless Skies also on it. Umbacrrx as the other weapon.

    • @JeremyDrifts_
      @JeremyDrifts_ 4 месяца назад

      @@jasonrice6966 Sayless! Yea lmk 💯 if you wanna run it add me #itzyuki1349

    • @TICUofficial
      @TICUofficial 4 месяца назад

      Which aspect did you replace with it?

    • @thijsdeckers2083
      @thijsdeckers2083 4 месяца назад

      @@jasonrice6966 i was about to try this too, tho i dont think we can swap out one of out few aspects we got left without losing too much dmg. What did you repalce it with?

  • @iioo187
    @iioo187 3 месяца назад

    What is max damage reduce on barbarian only on items?? Thank you :)

  • @tobfon2416
    @tobfon2416 4 месяца назад

    Thats a simple but very good idea to use the Green gems ❤️

  • @Hades16899
    @Hades16899 4 месяца назад

    All last season I used your builds, I will give it a go.

  • @MrShincarnage
    @MrShincarnage 4 месяца назад

    What aspect do you replace with doombringer? Your planner doesn’t show doom equipped

    • @EfficientRogue
      @EfficientRogue  4 месяца назад +1

      I have a doom flurry version with scoundrels leather

  • @therealguy3548
    @therealguy3548 4 месяца назад

    My first mythic was doombringer and yes it’s been used on all but one of my toons. It’s being ignored but it’s actually amazing.

  • @lukaszzaleskiewicz4392
    @lukaszzaleskiewicz4392 4 месяца назад

    I used it sometimes alternating with umbracrux in an andariel barrage build. You can easily run these around the infernal hordes of lvl 8

  • @thomasmcmanus8307
    @thomasmcmanus8307 4 месяца назад

    I just got one with 2GAs on my rogue on my first NORMAL duriel kill. I was blown away. Came to RUclips in homes someone would tell me its actually good lol

  • @nutgobbler918
    @nutgobbler918 4 месяца назад +2

    I guess you could use this on a whirlwind barb too and add 400-500 strength to all armor.

    • @captinsprinkle7795
      @captinsprinkle7795 4 месяца назад +1

      That’s what I did for now since I have rammy on the other hand. I feel mythic stats outweigh uniques( unless I get a triple max stat 1h )

    • @nutgobbler918
      @nutgobbler918 4 месяца назад

      @@captinsprinkle7795 that’s what I am doing too. I dropped magnum opus for doombringer. With DB and Tyriels might I am staying alive a lot easier than I was with magnum opus.
      If I can ever find grandfather I’ll drop doombringer and slot magnum opus back in.

  • @Randomonium66
    @Randomonium66 4 месяца назад

    Just got one of these from tormented zir, love that drops are level 35, gotta make a rogue now .

  • @Decide-ru2ud
    @Decide-ru2ud 4 месяца назад

    Im pretty sure they also changed how the shadow damage proc on doombringer works it used to work on a very very small area on your character ( basically close melee range) and now it also works at a distance like andariels does

  • @HEAST1312
    @HEAST1312 4 месяца назад

    You think its also valueable for barrage ?

  • @weih723
    @weih723 4 месяца назад

    It’s hard to find a place for doombringer in andariel build

  • @dimLagoon
    @dimLagoon 4 месяца назад

    is it good for heartseeker rogue build.... shard of varathiel + doombringer?

    • @EfficientRogue
      @EfficientRogue  4 месяца назад

      I dont know the current version of it but if you don’t loose a very important
      Aspect I’d say yes

  • @vincejones4247
    @vincejones4247 3 месяца назад

    I think alot of classes sleep on doom been using it on my chain lightning sorc and especially for sorc the health bump and the dr allows me to dump shako use Andy’s and still feel tanky with 13 ranks of glass cannon between neckpiece and ramient just brings the whole build to another tier

  • @toddrussell442
    @toddrussell442 3 месяца назад

    When Math doesn't Math u get videos like this..

  • @drphat
    @drphat 4 месяца назад

    U think this can work with rapid fire rouge or would that take to much crit damage away

  • @MattiasTheGamer
    @MattiasTheGamer 4 месяца назад

    Love it! Makes total sense. However running dex gems AND no doombringer 😅 and rely on Second Wind also works I think!

    • @EfficientRogue
      @EfficientRogue  4 месяца назад

      @@MattiasTheGamer Sounds like GIGACHAD rogue haha

  • @evi1sn0man
    @evi1sn0man 4 месяца назад

    Only problem i have with doombringer is losing an offensive aspect not as much the stats. Offensive aspect slots are very lacking with a mana ring being needed as well as gloves being unique

    • @EfficientRogue
      @EfficientRogue  4 месяца назад

      You can consider the 500 dex/primary stat as a 20% (x) aspect instead

  • @RunAroundGuy2
    @RunAroundGuy2 4 месяца назад

    Does the doombringer specifically help dex?

    • @EfficientRogue
      @EfficientRogue  4 месяца назад

      No works for all primary stats I just run a rogue channel 😅

  • @Agallx
    @Agallx 4 месяца назад

    I did this last season to get to ~90% dodge with my shadow imbuement rapid fire build.

  • @lenson7278
    @lenson7278 4 месяца назад

    Thanks for the video.
    Does it also make sense to play Doombringer as Andariel's Rogue? Which aspect would have to give way for this?

    • @deleonfountain8220
      @deleonfountain8220 4 месяца назад +1

      Probably bursting venoms/cold clip if you’re running flurry and bursting venoms/umbacrux for barrage. Imo this might be decent when t9/10 drop or if you’re struggling to survive but if you’re not then stick to your normal build

    • @FeuerhammerX
      @FeuerhammerX 3 месяца назад

      I replaced bursting venom since I get poison imbue from puncture.

  • @mostnamesaretaken959
    @mostnamesaretaken959 4 месяца назад

    Doom. Bringer is a all around weapon for any class

  • @ThreeBelowZero
    @ThreeBelowZero 4 месяца назад +4

    For all the Andariel's players like me: The shadow damage also scales through the build so yeah, we can say Doombringer is BiS for Rogues. At least for the current content released.

    • @Anakin93
      @Anakin93 4 месяца назад +12

      You lose the bursting venom aspect, not worth it

    • @jadenoconnell8354
      @jadenoconnell8354 4 месяца назад +4

      Yeah it’s not worth dropping a aspect for DB it also slows your Puncture throws etc due to the slower swing time on the weapon it’s honestly just kind of dookie

    • @jayare5652
      @jayare5652 4 месяца назад +1

      Yeah that’s a false statement

    • @jasonrice6966
      @jasonrice6966 4 месяца назад

      ​@jadenoconnell8354 definitely worth it if you are running barrage though. I use it and I went from struggling in t7 IH to face tanking t8. lol

    • @jadenoconnell8354
      @jadenoconnell8354 4 месяца назад

      @@jasonrice6966 oh yeah , using a bow for your damage output makes it viable

  • @KuroSeishin7
    @KuroSeishin7 4 месяца назад

    Great vid ! I was wondering if the aspect of true sight is worth it or not ?

    • @EfficientRogue
      @EfficientRogue  4 месяца назад

      What’s does it do again?

    • @KuroSeishin7
      @KuroSeishin7 4 месяца назад

      @@EfficientRogue 100% more crit dmg on ennemies marked by true sight

    • @KuroSeishin7
      @KuroSeishin7 4 месяца назад

      Inner sight*

    • @EfficientRogue
      @EfficientRogue  4 месяца назад +1

      Oh that one. That’s actually a very interesting one. It super increases your dmg vs bosses but it’s useless during arena itself so you have to decide what’s better for you

  • @knutHB
    @knutHB 4 месяца назад +1

    Right now I am leveling my barrage rogue with it….plus Andy, starless and tyrael….and it’s totally smooth 😂😂

    • @laclaypool7651
      @laclaypool7651 4 месяца назад +2

      4 mythics on any build is gonna run smooth.

  • @viktorstorelv
    @viktorstorelv 4 месяца назад

    How about the shadowdmg doombringer does. Is that counted in?

    • @EfficientRogue
      @EfficientRogue  4 месяца назад +1

      @@viktorstorelv no but it’s not big dmg.. smth around a million

  • @thiagodfs81
    @thiagodfs81 4 месяца назад +2

    So, the hidden afix is always Dex or maybe is the primary attribute for the class equipping the sword?

    • @Audimaniac83
      @Audimaniac83 4 месяца назад +1

      Yes, primary

    • @MartinEB72
      @MartinEB72 4 месяца назад +1

      It isn't so much hidden, as since you get a bunch of life from it, so you can choose different armor gems. You can put whatever gems you want there.

    • @xXMaukiorXx
      @xXMaukiorXx 4 месяца назад +1

      @@MartinEB72 yeah took me a while to understand how stupidly said this was.

  • @yasirsendi922
    @yasirsendi922 4 месяца назад

    i tried doombringer with barbarian. passive not procing

  • @NickLamott
    @NickLamott 4 месяца назад

    So are there other Mythics with hidden stats?

  • @Chaosbastiegjforlive
    @Chaosbastiegjforlive 4 месяца назад

    Can it fits in an andariels flurry rouge?

    • @EfficientRogue
      @EfficientRogue  4 месяца назад

      Yes I’m pretty sure it fits in any rogue build that does not require 2 unique weapons

  • @AlexEvans12
    @AlexEvans12 4 месяца назад

    great vid but what about the damage loss from not equiping the aspect that you have on the legendary weapon?

    • @EfficientRogue
      @EfficientRogue  4 месяца назад +1

      Its already calculated in: you loose 20% aspect and 500% ad dmg for 500 dex equal to a 2-3% dps loss

  • @ragnarokfps
    @ragnarokfps 4 месяца назад

    This isn't a hidden affix and it's misleading to say it is. A hidden affix is something like, on the Starless Skies, it gives +ranks to all Core Skills. And it also gives the same amount of +ranks to all Mastery Skills on the Sorc. That's a real hidden affix, not this other thing you're talking about.

  • @M4RTN11
    @M4RTN11 4 месяца назад

    I’m running it on my Andariel barrage since it’s slap, no real change in the clear speed on t8 hordes..

    • @Anakin93
      @Anakin93 4 месяца назад

      but you lose the bursting venom aspect

    • @M4RTN11
      @M4RTN11 4 месяца назад

      @@Anakin93 it doesn’t matter if you are not pushing pits over 130

  • @jameslewis5499
    @jameslewis5499 4 месяца назад

    I just got it today

  • @thyagomartins2502
    @thyagomartins2502 4 месяца назад

    Soo...the"hiden affix" is jus cuz u can equip diferent gems? Ur joking right???

  • @pgboichev
    @pgboichev 4 месяца назад

    great vid, but does Doombringer shadow dmg proc Andariel

    • @EfficientRogue
      @EfficientRogue  4 месяца назад +1

      Dont think so

    • @pgboichev
      @pgboichev 4 месяца назад

      @@EfficientRogue yea would have been too good :)

  • @Jazzamonroe
    @Jazzamonroe 4 месяца назад

    Slotting dex for andy rogue doesn’t do much though does it? Dex scales skill dmg and our dmg comes from our poison nova, not from skills right?

    • @endless690
      @endless690 4 месяца назад

      Yes I believe 95% of our damage is the poison nova

    • @EfficientRogue
      @EfficientRogue  4 месяца назад +2

      No Andy’s dmg scales with dex as well (all flat dmg effects scale with dex)

  • @benzoo4588
    @benzoo4588 4 месяца назад

    Thx for all your work ;-). Can this bild beat lillith ? Tytyy

    • @henriquedelatorre3377
      @henriquedelatorre3377 4 месяца назад

      I have a similar build and only 1 mythic (starless skies) with some MW 12 gear and it was an easy kill

  • @StealnSoulz105
    @StealnSoulz105 4 месяца назад +2

    That was an odd way of explaining it. All you’re saying is you can use green gems instead of red gems and not lose life.

    • @EfficientRogue
      @EfficientRogue  4 месяца назад

      Well I’ve seen no one so far using this gems or talking about it so I made this video

  • @ersetzbar.
    @ersetzbar. 4 месяца назад

    Its even betteron bloodsurge necro, currently trying to farm a life ga one

  • @lukkis7187
    @lukkis7187 4 месяца назад

    I found that Item today 😊

  • @Rothose31
    @Rothose31 4 месяца назад

    Am I stupid or it’s just a plus 165 all stats which gives u dexterity thus gives u additional damage, and it’s not a hidden dmg stat. When u take out doombringer u have 1678 dext after u put it back u have 1844 dext

    • @danzo9528
      @danzo9528 4 месяца назад +2

      its a "metaphor" because you can drop all life gems with doombringer and put in dex gems instead that boost your dex by 500

    • @brave1988brave
      @brave1988brave 4 месяца назад +1

      watch the video again and listen to what he is saying

    • @co9zyPj645Q
      @co9zyPj645Q 4 месяца назад

      The video is just poorly explained. Doombringer gives dmg reduction therefore you dont need as much life gems in your gear and instead can use dex/stre/int gems for more dmg.

    • @seanmcginnis7564
      @seanmcginnis7564 4 месяца назад

      Not only DR, but life given is more than 5 rubles.

  • @SBHU
    @SBHU 4 месяца назад

    I use doombringer on my rogue since i got it - T8 Horde is easy :)

  • @vitasbjornbriones7221
    @vitasbjornbriones7221 4 месяца назад

    Really sad that I need to salvage this to create Shako.

  • @kostisxristoforidis7196
    @kostisxristoforidis7196 4 месяца назад

    My doom has ga health but it’s useless on me,already using dex gems

  • @michaellancaster7092
    @michaellancaster7092 4 месяца назад

    So you just use different gems........ not really a hidden affix

  • @tiberian1985
    @tiberian1985 4 месяца назад

    or you just go leggy dagger and 5 dex gems because for current t8 u dont need much life to survive lol well if you are slow maybe life gem worth it but if u know how to play your class life is always meh

  • @unholyarthur1
    @unholyarthur1 4 месяца назад

    You didn't exactly prove or show that that it has Dex bonus tho?

    • @misturmoogle
      @misturmoogle 4 месяца назад

      It's not a dex bonus.. this shit is click bait. The sword gives you such a huge bonus to % life you can unsocket your rubies for primary stat gems in your armor. That's where the "Extra Dex" is coming from.. it's the same on any class

  • @twizms2
    @twizms2 4 месяца назад

    You can run green gems without doombringer

    • @EfficientRogue
      @EfficientRogue  4 месяца назад

      Yes but usually you then lack survivability

    • @twizms2
      @twizms2 4 месяца назад

      @@EfficientRogue not with tyriels

    • @EfficientRogue
      @EfficientRogue  4 месяца назад

      You can do that yes but I think for t8 it’s to squishy in my experience

  • @Mousenkeybord1
    @Mousenkeybord1 4 месяца назад

    I broke mine down for an andys 😅

  • @laclaypool7651
    @laclaypool7651 4 месяца назад

    I see this vid after scraping mine for the spark... fml

    • @EfficientRogue
      @EfficientRogue  4 месяца назад +1

      Don’t worry if I would not have a starless or tyraels yet I would also scrap it

  • @misturmoogle
    @misturmoogle 4 месяца назад +1

    It's not a dex bonus or hidden affix.. this shit is click bait. The sword gives you such a huge bonus to % life you can unsocket your rubies for primary stat gems in your armor. That's where the "Extra Dex" is coming from.. it's the same for whatever gem you socket in your armor instead of rubies

  • @ISpeedShowReactions
    @ISpeedShowReactions 4 месяца назад

    Ggeeheklobon