LEARNING ABOUT SUBMISSION FROM MILENA CICIOTTI | First Look and Reaction
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I think staying quiet and just praying about an issue in a marriage is just a breeding ground for resentment. Healthy communication is so important in a relationship.
💯 Communication is absolutely key.
This 👏🏾
I was the model for a pick me Christian girl and I remember when my marriage first started being horrible reading Christian based books for wife’s learning this stuff and honestly now that I look back at that time in my life… keeping quiet and “praying to God” about it created this space where I was small and unimportant. There was 0 respect. All the while managing the entire house and giving my ex husband free access to my body at all times was honestly the worst way I have ever betrayed myself. I lost who I was and did it all so quietly and somehow in the name of God. Now that I’m older I see how odd it is that this is the current culture for woman in the church. It’s a narcissists dreaaaamm to treat their partner like shit and then to have it overlooked or even to be given more love and gratitude. So bizarre.
Kind communication is the most critical part of a healthy relationship. It is best after self reflection. RUclips channel Psychology in Seattle does a phenomenal job of explaining people’s reactions in conflict and where those may arise from and how to reframe it.
God knows and sees our hearts and I agree, that communication is very very important! But there have been times I have had some things I may have wanted to communicate to my husband, but my spirit said "pray about it," and even in my silence, God turned it around, instantly! God honors marriage, and I do believe if you go to him, seek him, and pray to him he will answer!
I am sorry one of the commenters feels she "betrayed" herself by giving herself to her husband although they were facing whatever issues they were in, but I want to encourage you! Do know that God is not sleeping and will still honor you for honoring your husband because that is what he calls us to do. I pray that God gives you peace and understanding in your memory of this situation.
My win for the week was finding out we're pregnant! It's our first baby, and it's approximately due around my 40th birthday. Lol We're thrilled!
Congratulations! ❤❤❤
@@Katie2986 thanks! ❤️
@@lilurri You are very welcome!
Congratulations!!
Congrats!
i think it’s so interesting that when there’s bad men in the bible, like nimrod or pharaoh, they’re allowed to just be bad people
but when there’s a woman like jezebel who’s bad she’s an example of a bad *woman* and uniquely more evil and sinister
And also how jezebel’s an evil whore but mary magdalene is 🥹. Reflects the whole madonna/whore complex and perfect victims vs imperfect victims
Like… just say it! Just admit that the Bible isn’t the word of God already. It’s the inconsistent word of different men
Please excuse me that is not directed @ you. I’m yelling into the spiritual trauma void 😂
1 Kings 16:25 Omri did EVIL in the eyes of the Lord, and did worse than all who were before him.
1 Kings 15:33-34
33 In the third year of Asa king of Judah, Baasha the son of Ahijah became king over all Israel in Tirzah, and reigned twenty-four years. 34 He did EVIL in the sight of the Lord, and walked in the way of Jeroboam, and in his sin by which he had made Israel sin.
1 Kings 22:50-52
51 Ahaziah the son of Ahab began to reign over Israel in Samaria the seventeenth year of Jehoshaphat king of Judah, and reigned two years over Israel.
52 And he did EVIL in the sight of the Lord, and walked in the way of his father, and in the way of his mother, and in the way of Jeroboam the son of Nebat, who made Israel to sin:
1 Kings 11:6 Solomon did evil in the sight of the Lord, and did not fully follow the Lord, as did his father David.
2 Kings 21 Manasseh was twelve years old when he became king, and he reigned fifty-five years in Jerusalem. His mother’s name was Hephzibah. 2 And he did EVIL in the sight of the Lord, according to the abominations of the nations whom the Lord had cast out before the children of Israel.
Women:
God chose to make us because He saw that something wasn't good. He could have finished with creation but there was one more detail!! US! Women! God chose to make us! ❤️
Genesis 2:18 NKJV
And the LORD God said, “It is NOT GOOD that man should be alone; I will make him a helper comparable to him.”
Genesis 2:24 NKJV
Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.
God time after time defends women in the bible and requires men to treat us properly because there are so many instances in the bible where we see stories of men who mistreated women.
Proverbs 18:22 He who finds a wife finds a good thing, And obtains favor from the Lord.
Colossians 3:19 Husbands, love your wives, and do not be harsh with them.
Ephesians 5:28
In the same way husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself.
Ephesians 5:25 ESV
Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her,
Malachi 2:16
“For the man who does not love his wife but divorces her, says the Lord, the God of Israel, covers his garment with violence, says the Lord of hosts. So guard yourselves in your spirit, and do not be faithless.”
Proverbs 5:18 Let your fountain be blessed, And rejoice with the wife of your youth.
Mark 10:6-9 But from the beginning of the creation, God ‘made them male and female.’ ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’; so then they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.
God loves women! The Bible is the word of God. However, remember that it includes historical events so yes men have done some evil things to women but this is why when Jesus came He gave a great example of how to treat women. You do know that Jesus stopped men from stoning Mary Magdalene. God is kind & sweet. Don't let anyone make you think otherwise.
For many years, I thought God didn't love women but as I read the Bible I learned about many instances where God defended us! Amen!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼❤️
@@ourblissfulhaven i completely agree! i’m taking about the way a lot preachers discuss these issues
Christians who won’t overtly say abuse is wrong are the same people who will say “well, you should honor your father and mother” when they find out that you had an abusive childhood and went no contact.
You should honor your father and mother even if you had an abusive childhood. That is their sin, why add onto that sin with your own sin of not honoring ?
@@everydayfaithwithnicole2486 because abusive parents keep destroying their adult children. You shall love your neighbour as yourself, and self love requires to take care of your physical and mental health. Don’t praise the abuser
That part about her saying you're supposed to change your husband's behavior "without a word" is taking that verse and applying it to a context it wasn't meant for. Plus, the Bible is clear that we're brother and sister in Christ FIRST, and as fellow Christians, we're SUPPOSED to exhort one another and even confront one another. I don't see anything wrong with wives bringing concerns about their husbands' behavior to them verbally based on the Bible.
That’s what I think! Like God doesn’t support us coming at anyone sideways but confrontation as uncomfortable as it is is biblical. It’s hard but if it can be done it must or let it fester but that’s not a practice of self love to me
@@naomi9449 Agreed!
What is the context of the verse? I feel like so many people have used this verse to manipulate me :/
Her and her sister and some other girl did a video talking about how you need to change your man through prayer and they literally said “is your man watching porn? What aren’t you doing? Pray!”… so toxic.
She meant nagging and not just bombarding our husbands everyday w this and that sounds fine to me
I think it matters if you know where your at in your faith journey when you listen to materials in this subject along with others basically I guess you have to pray for understanding and discernment before you watch any videos ❤🙏speaking ofcourse only from experience milenas come a long way and she always comes clean if she hasn’t been true to what she says I mean none of us is perfect I like a brother or sister who can admit to our transgressions because
That’s how we grow and love each other actually I feel like videos that criticize other RUclipsrs are kind of distasteful because you can lead others to dislike a brother or sister because of just your own interpretation but then again that’s my opinion as well I pray you all learn to work on ourselves before we try to check someone else I’m guilty of it too so I try to make sure
I acknowledge when I do this we can be a stumbling block in a believers life just make sure you yourself are without a log in your eye before you try to help show someone else ❤🙏
While it is nice that she denounced abuse, the nature of abuse is that many people blame themselves and won't self-identify as experiencing abuse at all. It's really confusing for someone to be told "don't stay with an abuser" and then "if your husband is unhappy, check to see if it may be your fault"
Yes! This interpretation, when the burden for the family’s success falls on the wife’s shoulders, makes it incredibly difficult to leave bc ultimately the “failure” is then hers.
this!!! also, purity culture breeds rape culture. I saw this in my former church all the time, but nobody talked about it, women were never taught consent, it was always women's fault and not the mans, etc.
Something that really frustrates me about these Christian influencers is that they seem to think that they're experts just because they are Christians. They just read off scripture and use flowery language, but only have a surface level understanding of what they're reading. Like come on! Dig deeper! Add a fresh perspective! Don't just scratch the surface. I'd say if you're going to be a religious influencer, do your research or just start out talking about less heavy topics. But please, do more than take Scripture at face value. And I think we really need to stop the "us vs the world" narrative.
Props to her for actually encouraging her viewers to open their own Bibles. Maybe some of them will actually read it for themselves and come to their own conclusions.
And she's right to denounce abuse and say that it's not ok. But like you pointed out, that should be the bare minimum. We really could do better as the big C church.
Overall you gave some good commentary. I really enjoy your commentary style. Very chill and informative.
Win for the week: I got a promotion! 🎉 This was over a year in the making so I’m over the moon with joy.
“Not an umbrella!” made me cackle. I was thinking the same thing as you said it.
They are so young! 26 and three children. They have so little life experience other than raising young kids and church. Yet lecture others with such authoroty.
They really do. I'm not sure who is feeding their egos but it's crazy honestly. I can't believe in the video she even said "I have the authority" 😂
Bible says that we know Christian’s by their fruits and a woman gossiping about others for views is not a fruit of the spirit.
🙏🏼🙏🏼❤️
Do you not know what the word “gossiping” means?
@@ourblissfulhaven if she has something against the person why not go to them as a woman and speak about it ? Nah instead a better idea would be Making money on RUclips off of criticizing someone’s life ?
@@hanatemonstas4485 yes I do thanks for asking 🤗
@@MamaBear0414 Doesn’t make it gossiping if she is speaking publicly, so no, you clearly don’t know.
That’s why the abuse disclaimer doesn’t impress me… because if people follow what’s she saying to the letter, they’re groomed to tolerate any form of abuse until it escalates to their life being endangered. And, even then, some will stay and pray.
Wow! She says she doesn’t advocate for abuse but the narrative around “still submit even if your husband isn’t being his best” makes women stay longer in an abusive relationship. It gives you a reason to stay when it will never get better and they will never own up for their actions as they don’t have to.
Not a fan of that sentiment.
Exactly - the fact that this 'submission' they speak about is said to be hard to do but has to be done says something else. Women are prepared to submit and men to 'lead' which sets up couples for abuse - its give -Bondage-dominantion-submission' vibes - as seen in the likes of Paul and Morgan. Women are infantilized - I used to be one of these churches - even the way members 'submit' to pastors is cringe worthy - which is why spiritual abuse has become a concern. Of course some pastors are kind and respectful but some love being honoured and submitted to .
@@Thesis760 100% agree. It promotes submitting blindly no matter what. Obviously a marriage vow is serious but the narrative is all cringe!
Amen.
Submitting to a Godly man is amazing not a sacrifice not abuse at all God bless you all ❤
The letters Paul wrote to Timothy were very specific to that particular church, not to be used as a blanket statement for all believers.
I love Milena she has been a blessing for my life she has grown in the Lord so much I love their podcast so much ❤❤❤
Holy spirit works on her
This woman who setting judge her God will deal her
@@Samira-kj6et that doesn’t make sense. God judges us all.
FINALLY someone is talking about her. She truly has spiraled
She really has! It’s concerning …. What is going on.
how has she spiraled?
“I know poorly written out recipes are not a criminal offense” BUT they should be. JAIL! I need to know exactly what to do and when otherwise I panic 😂
😂😂
Believe it or not, straight to jail.
Same!! I learned how to write good instructions because I get confused so easily 😂
Soo true!!
The food didn't even look good.
So growing up in the church I was taught that submission to a husband is like submission to a CEO. Someone has to make the final decision but you should ALWAYS talk through that decision and try and find compromise when you disagree.And if the husband makes a bad decision, voice your disagreement with that decision but be helpful in whatever that fallout might be because at the end of the day it’s a partnership and the health of your family (even if that’s just you and your husband) is more important than “being right”. Basically just don’t be an asshole in retaliation lol.
I remember in premarital counseling our pastor looking my now husband in the eyes and saying “your wife is smarter and wiser than you. Listen to her.” And told about how early in his marriage he wasn’t listening to the good advice his wife was giving him and it bit him in the ass. After that he valued her voice in things above everyone else’s haha
The men were also given heavy emphasis on being someone worthy of being submitted to.
So. All that being said it’s hard for me to have objectivity in these discussions because I’m not really sure what they are talking about when they say be submissive as I know it could be completely contrary to what I was taught that means.
Thanks for sharing, it’s beautiful message and reassurance. I agree with everything you said!
My win for the week was getting my real estate license🎉 I’m 46 and going to back to school and taking a long exam is a lot harder. But it’s over!
It’ll be interesting to hear the actual dynamic of her relationship. Something doesn’t have to be “abuse” to be harmful. And I know many women who experience abuse but would never acknowledge it as such.
My win for this week and each of the past 8 weeks is i have FINALLY stopped smoking. I'm 60 years old and have been a smoker for most of them. (It only took lower jaw surgery to get the ball rolling. Lol) i absolutely couldn't smoke for the first week and every thing i read said that the number 1 reason that gum implants will fail is smoking. There was too much pain and COST involved for me to chance it! (Don't get me started on dental insurance and them covering this whole medically necessary, not cosmetic, procedure! Ugh!) Anyway, I'm so grateful and feeling better overall. Thanks B, i love your channel ❤️
30:17 off the jump she needs to start reading the sentence before that says Christians are to submit to each other. There is no verb in the original language but many sexist translations like to put in chapter divides where there are none, completely forgetting the peevish sentence informed husbands they are to also submit to their wives. They take a passage about learning to be less selfish and more loving and make it about hierarchy… drives me crazy that in 2023 this is still going on
The recipe shenanigans made me laugh, def worth including in the video lol
Win for the week: I bought a piano (ok, keyboard, whatever) and booked a piano tutor. I may be 45, but it's never too late to add hobbies 😂
I’ve been wondering when you’d cover milena! I stopped following her, her content started to go a little off the deep end for me.
Edit after watching the full thing. She sounds a little delulu to me nowadays. It confuses me how she one minute says we can’t idolize our husbands but then we can’t talk to them about any of our problems or opinions. I do think there is a line where you don’t want to only nag at anyone in your life constantly. No one should just be a sounding board, but that’s your life partner SISTER!
I am a traditional Christian housewife. I absolutely don't think you should stay in an abusive marriage. Protect yourself and if you have children, you must protect them too. I also think God can use us to help our husband if he is struggling with other things. It needs to be done in the right way though. The fight or flight instinct in us is real. First, I do pray. I pray to be kind , loving, and have wisdom for the words and clarity. Then, I tell my husband my concerns. So , many times he has thanked me. It isn't about controlling him. It is about genuine care. We treat each other with respect. We have been married for 25 years and are still so happy. I am on his side and he is on mine. We help each other. We see each others strengths and let each other lead in the area we are strong in. I do look to him as a spiritual leader. However, he is always asking my thoughts and is so respectful to me. We realize we both are not perfect. I don't nag him . I really feel blessed and he tells me he is so blessed to have me. I don't really have a demanding husband. So, maybe it is easier for me. I also told my kids that besides the decision to follow God, choosing your spouse is one of the most important decisions you will make. Don't ignore red flags. Don't be in a rush and settle. We don't spend enough time talking about that. Also, I look at it like this. If my child were climbing on a terrace rail, I would not just stand there and watch not saying anything or helping them stay safe. Hoping God will save them . Not that our spouse is a child. God can use us. He has used complete strangers to help others? Why would he not use a spouse? I am not saying micromanage everything. I am talking about the big things and keeping communication open. How lonely for a husband if we are only their servant. We are not just here to be maids and have babies. We were created to be help meets. God saw that Adam needed someone besides just him. He saw a need. Yes, we need God the most,but he gave us each other for a reason. I do understand a lot of what Milena is saying, however I would talk to my spouse and if abuse was happening to me or my child I would get help . And not just within the church. I know I jumped around a bit. I am multi tasking.
I’ve never heard of a Cold Brew Christian but love it. Added to my vernacular.
DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT LEAVE IT UP TO YOUR CHURCH TO UNCOVER YOUR ABUSE. You can rely on them if they support you and encourage you to speak up, but don’t leave it up to anyone else to call out what’s going on.
I'm obsessed with how many Christian tradwife-esque Instagrammers will talk all day long about how they love cooking for their man etc...then the pictures and recipes they post make me question if they have ever cooked anything in their life.
Milena is living according to scripture and doing what’s right. People can say she’s spiraled but your words are just confirmation that she’s doing the right thing in God’s sight. And that’s the ONLY one she cares to please. Her content isn’t for you, it’s for HIM. And his kingdom and glory. She has a Godly husband and He leads the family in righteous, it’s easy to submit to a Godly man who loves the Lord and loves his wife and children! I should know! My husband is wonderful and serves the Lord with all his heart and it’s a joy to submit to a man like him! I’m loving the change in her over the last year, she’s exactly the kind of biblical woman example so many young wives and mothers have been needing. Go Milena!!!!🎉
@@Raya-ir4tm According to John 15:20
it is an argument, and what I said is very true according to scripture.
“If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.”
No one should have a different “opinion” then what God’s word says, we are to walk in obedience to him and not walk by our own opinions.
@@breannandcaleb Are you equating Milena as a ‘master’? You are making an idol out of her, which is breaking the first and second 10 commandments
It SHOULD be easy to submit to your husband and Milena is describing the difficulty she has with it. That means there's a problem. Maybe her husband is not fulfilling his responsibility to consider her perspective, maybe she's defining submission in the wrong way and therefore straying from God's plan. Either way, she does not seem like she's in a solid place to be giving advice. You can't just change your marriage dynamics for a month and then start teaching other women as if you know what you're talking about
@@breannandcaleb this verse means that you will be persecuted for being Christian. It does NOT mean that every time you receive criticism, it's because you're Christian and you can ignore it. Christians make mistakes, and even make mistakes with their faith.
Love this so much! You said this so beautifully. She’s living for the Lord. This creator wouldn’t understand as she’s not in submission to the Lord but rather for self. I say this because I know what it feels like to live under self vs living for the Lord x
My win for the week is that I finally saw an oral surgeon who was willing to do something about my tooth abscess instead of passing me on to someone else like the last 4 dentists
I recently had a tooth abscess and let me tell you- I have been through major surgeries and procedures, spinal taps, and I live on chronic pain but that abscess is the WORST pain I’ve ever been in. I hope it has been long resolved by now. They suck!
The whole baby carrots and like 3 gnocchi is too funny
I couldn’t get over it 😂
hey B! i wanted to share my win for the week with you. i discovered a mama pigeon nesting a block from my house and brought her some food
Aww you are so sweet to bring her food! I’m glad you found that nest 💛
My first thought from the notification was “I’m not subscribed to any kink channels am I?” 🤣
Bwahahhahaa!!!!!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Oh no 😳😂
@@BHaney exactly! 🤣
😂
I‘m totally on board about what you said in the beginning about your view on partnership and decision making in a relationship, but in my opinion „submission“ is absolutely not the correct word for what you described. The definition of submitting is one party putting themselves below the other, and Partners should be equals. In this Christian context it‘s always only the wife submitting to her husband, Not about the husband submit EQUALLY to his wife. This creates inequality and means that what you described would only apply to the wife, Not both.
Exactly. Compromise, mutual love and respect? Yes of course! Submission? Hell no, absolutely not! I agree, what she described is not submission.
My win for the week: I finally bought and replaced my cars battery 🔋 It was outputting at apparently like 1/3 of what it’s supposed to 😂 and I put it off for so long my car was having issues with starting. The best part is my car stereo is way louder now which is kind of wild I didn’t realize how bad it was… now I get to play taylor swift even louder 😂
Car maintenance is such a pain but I’m glad you got a new battery and finally have the power to blast Taylor at the volume she deserves!
Something that GRINDS my gears about Milena is how she takes privacy of her children so seriously (finally, which she should as a parent!) but has no shame in sharing pictures of her friends children and makes no effort to hide or blur their faces? The kid at the start is her friends baby that she was babysitting, makes no effort to hide her face yet is so careful about hiding her own children. She has done this so many times with numerous friends.
and she started to hide her kids faces (thankfully) only after she has been called out on Dad challenge podcast.
I thought the same but I’m assuming it’s because the parents of those children post their babies faces on their own social media. That’s what makes the most sense to me
My win this week: air drying my curly hair successfully so that it doesn’t look frizzy and poofy.
My win for the week is that I am going out tonight to eat Korean BBQ with my partner and friends for my birthday and I’m so excited (and hungry!!) 🤩✨ I’m going to listen to your video while getting ready!
Came straight from reddit to watch this video!!! I’m sat 🎉
She's modernizing IBLP. woah
I come from a Pentecostal background but have run in many different Christian circles and it’s actually so crazy how many Christians are very close to IBLP/fundie ideas.
Idk if anyone else has this experience but growing up “crunch/granola” were terms reserved for more liberal/left leaning (particularly) women and now it seems that the word has been shifted to describe (self or otherwise) a certain type of fundie. It’s so strange.
That’s how I’d always heard it before also
Crunchy has nothing to do with being a fundie 😅
lol yeah, but I think it's because the crunchy/granola people swung so far Left that it became Right again. A lot of former Hippy communes became fundie christian sects, and "new age" religious ideologies and practices have somehow been absorbed into fundie christian circles. There's also a healthy suspicions of the government and modern medicine which causes them to hyper focus on the "natural" world. They do a lot of the same things that crunchy pagans do, but God forbid you call it witchcraft. They'll eat you alive lol.
@@itsashlynelizabeth oh I know but what I’m saying is that there seems to be this fundie to crunchy pipeline, it’s fascinating
@@Blueb3rryyy i think in a lot of cases, it's crunchy to fundie (and in many cases, not fundie but just antivax right wing.)
I'm going to do a video about Milena's submission video as well in a few weeks, but I'm so excited to watch this!!
Edit: I did a video about part 1 last month, and it's part 2 I'm going to discuss in a couple weeks. Would also be interested in B's perspective, as a Christian. :)
Looking forward to it!
I really love your content. Meeting Christians like you is a breath of fresh air.
I used to watch her. I was pregnant at the same time I stopped watching her as she comes across as showy offy
Sometimes I think all the problems with "submission" in the bible might go away if we replaced it with "compromise" in all translations. Because the context clues almost sound like perhaps thats what Paul was getting at anyway.
But the word submission carries too much baggage of a heierarchy, of dominating. Compromise requires more equal/level footing
I replace it in my head with trust and respect. And also remember that husbands are called to lay down their lives for their wives. Why does no one talk about that part?
we cant just hijack words and make them have our own personal definitions. "Submission" and "Compromise" have different definitions! Submission does not mean compromise lol and if you are pretending that they are synonyms then you are being intellectually dishonest when you are reading "submission" in the bible, and I would challenge you to ask yourself if you are redefining words to make the bible say whatever you want it to say. When we "submit" to someone that is the opposite of "compromising". Submission occurs when you quite literally cant compromise or are not compromising so you submit to anothers decision. My goodness, we cant change language to make words mean what they simply dont mean. That is very unhealthy and not grounded in reality.
@@Loves2HugItOut they do have different meanings, in modern times. But am I wrong to think this may have not been the case, back then?
Win for the week is standing up
For myself which can be hard always love your videos!
My win for the week was that for the first time in over 10 years, I exercised 3 days out of the week! I'm making purposeful choices to live a more balanced, healthy life. I'm really proud of myself ❤
And she had to skip Ephesians 5vs 21 " And further, submit to one another out of reverence for Christ." Eph 4 vs 21 (NLT).
Communication is nr 1 for me and my husband! I agree we need to pray, but just doing that is not enough! Great opinions D! Win for the week... getting cooler here in NM!
The baby carrots are hilarious. That would take a long time to cook in broth & it’s just weird. The recipes you showed are really strange. It makes me think she doesn’t really cook much. It also reminds me of how thankful I am that my grandma taught me how to cook & bake
Most abusers isolate you from your friends and family so the fact that she's also encouraging abused people to Not seek help from loved ones can isolate them further.... If you're being abused go to the police and get a restraining order, stay with loved ones and get you and anyone else vulnerable as far as you possibly can from the abuser!
Milenas so fascinating as she was a “normal” influencer and Jordan was very devout. And it almost felt like he cheated on her and then she has slowly over time become almost amish like and “submissive”. It’s truly terrifying
She was a more “normal Christian influencer”. Did something happen or did she find her niche?😂
@@annagarnet1232 i think it’s obvious she’s become more radicalized with time not just niche i feel
She’s doing too much !! She looks like those brainwashed Amish girls 😑🤮 . That’s too much .
Quite the assumption. Where is the proof? Personally, all I see is the Holy Spirit working through her and changing her, as He does with His believers.
That's why it's an assumption. She also says "feels like" idk why you're asking for "proof" when it's cleary an opinion just like yours @@JessicaTayB
I’ll be honest when you were talking about cold brew Christians and giving examples of what you meant and when you said Stanley cup I imagined the hockey Stanley Cup and then I was like wait what 😂 then I rewinded and my brain connected 😂 I just thought it was funny bc I’ve been watching a lot of hockey here lately and I guess my mind is on the championship games already 😂
Yes to part 2!
My win (maybe not for the week, just for today): it's been raining all day and just now stopped intume for me to go on a walk!
I only just started the video, so I’m not sure if you’ll mention it, but I think it’s important to note that the worst thing about Milena and her husband is that on at least one of their podcast episodes they openly promoted parents hitting their kids with weapons. And they called it “a loving thing from a parent to a child” to “help them to not be fools”. They’re both horrible people.
Those poor children 😭
WtFudge?
That's messed up.
Omg that is not even true. She OPENLY disclosed how she doesn’t believe in whooping your kids. Be mindful.
@@LoveAlways_Brea It is true. I can link you the podcast episode if you want. She and her husband said when their kids get a little older they plan to hit them their hands, a belt, a wooden spoon, whatever. Just because they’re too dumb or in denial to not see that as abuse with weapons doesn’t change the reality.
My win for the week is that I believe I've put the rat, that has been running around my apartment like it pays rent, to "sleep". I had to wall off my kitchen with a cabinet to keep it from running everywhere. Hopefully my win for next week is that the maintenance/pest control will remove it and fill the hole so I don't get another one.
i feel so bad but her grammar is making it hard to listen to her
I don’t love that you acted like the version of her Bible wasn’t correct because the NLT said it differently. We don’t pick versions to tickle our ears and say what we think sounds better.
You look extra pretty today, B. 😊 ❤ My win for the week: dropping off and soon picking up my hubby from the airport despite my anxiety. That seems silly to anyone who doesn't deal with anxiety, but I'm sure some of y'all can relate. I am only really comfy driving in my bubble. Have a great weekend, everyone!
Congratulations on being brave! I love this for you ! I have narcolepsy and can appreciate feeling uncomfortable driving in new area.
@@naomirg8273 Thank you!! I deal with vertigo, which adds extra stress, so I understand the rational fears you must deal with , as well! ❤️ Take care of yourself!
Woohoo! I used to be afraid to drive in big cities so I remember feeling a rush the first time I drove on the D.C. Beltway.
Maybe five seconds before she used the word "umbrella" I was like, "This is sounding a lot like Bill Gothard." We called it! Also, when she talks about you go from submitting to your father to submitting to your husband...last I checked my Bible says, "Honor your father AND MOTHER." (Obviously I added the capitalization.) It specifies both father and mother in both the Old and New Testaments.
Also, I am one-quarter Italian and have made and eaten stuffed peppers plenty of times, so I was cringing inside when you were reading off that stuffed pepper recipe. Part of me wonders if she meant to say to cook the meat in a separate pan but forgot the phrase "in a separate pan"? She needs someone to test the recipe before she publishes it so they can point out these issues to her, a la Good Housekeeping. Also I was taught to stuff the peppers with raw ground beef + pre-cooked rice, but my family recipe involves stewing the peppers in tomato juice in a big pot on the stove rather than baking. Also I would think precooking the peppers, especially for that long, would make them too soft and hard to stuff without making holes in them. In short, her recipe just does not make sense as written.
My win for the week is my husband and I finally combining our car insurance onto the same policy! We've been married nearly three years so have been literally talking about it for years. I guess I thought it would be a lot more complicated and time consuming than it actually ended up being!
Edit as I watched more: Her "I am not called to speak to men"/"I do not have authority to speak to men" sounds SO much like the Transformed Wife once defending her comments by saying "I don't teach men, I only teach women." Also, to me claiming authority to teach would (or at least should) mean having some level of professional training in that area (Bible college, seminary, etc.), but I've never heard of her before this video so I don't know if she does. It reminds me of all the "wellness" influencers who have zero medical or nutritional training but are giving people diet advice.
Those aren’t her kids in the video she doesn’t post her kids anymore on social media, the child belongs to her friends who is an influencer and allows them to be posted and she was babysitting her
That chicken gnocchi picture... I wouldn't eat it. It looks like a pile of canned tuna fish with baby carrots and bananas. Also, as someone who went to elementary school, those instructions on the recipe are absolutely awful 😂 did she not grow up doing the exercise where you have to explain every single detail of how to make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich?
You, too, huh? 😂 Our teacher actually brought peanut butter, jelly, and bread to class and made the sandwiches exactly how we had written, which led to her making mine on two pieces of the plastic bread bag because I had written "Take out two pieces" but didn't specify they were pieces of bread! Embarrassing then, funny now.
I agree with your idea of "submission", it just sounds like a healthy relationship, the only thing I would add is that the man should also do the same towards his wife. But I don't think that's in the bible right?
Mutual submission is a biblical concept. How it plays out is different from what I understand but the message is the same submission is necessary.
"Men are put on this pedestal in religion but they're not really expected to adhere to that." BINGO!!!!
Win for the week was feeling accomplished in what I have done around the house and the rest of the wallpaper came so I can finish my wall!
I’d love to see you react to part 2🌸
That stuffed pepper recipe reads like it was written by AI
That’s a really good way to describe it!! Lol
She’s using this verse which is Sooooooo controversial and I have left a church because because we realized the pastor was not exactly just baptist but a fundie as he explained “women will be saved through childbearing-if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety” - 1 Timothy 2:11-15. I asked about this “ all women should have children so they can be saved”, etc. because I’ve had seven miscarriages so I took particular interest in this passage as well as being upset. When I wanted more clarification and asked , in my case, none was given.
Also, he went into detail about women never suffering to teach, and I am a clinical mental health counselor, and I also teach, and he said women should never be deacons, church leaders, ushers, etc. because that would be against the Bible.
We had been going to this church for quite a while and went to a Wednesday night service when this was told. He explained that Wednesdays were for real believers, etc. Sorry, had to get that in. This was very recent so the topic is raw in my mind. I did a deep dive, and this is one of the most controversial passages in the Bible, and also one used by most fundamentalists.
I'm sorry you are having to deal with that. My in-laws are Southern Baptist and I get the sense their church is similar in terms of views about women. I hope you have the opportunity to find a church that is a much better fit and will actually be supportive of you going through the trauma of miscarriages.
Omg this stuffed peppers recipe is hilarious. You could make a video of yourself following the recipe and see what you produce...
Yes please, reaction to part 2! Just the brief bit at the end there where she talks about regularly having to "check herself" seems uh, potentially concerning.
I love your videos! Also, your make-up and hair is spot-on today!
I just need to say, in Germany homeschooling is illegal. Because possibility of abuse and religion extreme…
I would like a Part 2!!!
I’m still processing what submission means biblically because I grew up hearing abuse and dominance being called “submission”. It never sat right with me because it was reminiscent of years I associated with oppression and suppression of women. Submission always sounded to me like the two people put themselves in boxes abandoning themselves and playing into the roles that people who incorrectly interpreted the passage said they needed. My working definition of submission is it’s letting go of our self seeking desires that typically blind is to others needs and seeing them and esteeming me them as human and worthy of respect and love. I think submission is a concept for our benefit. I’ve noticed that without thought I have little regard for peoples feeling and my default is to prioritize myself. I think submission in general is a self reflection tool and a practice in esteeming others. It’s that daily crucifying the flesh and seeing someone strengths and weaknesses and loving and supporting them to be the person God created them to be. Submission is not devoid or separate from other biblical truths they all tie in together.
I just discovered you and I’m dying laughing about the baby carrots. ❤
I love your description of submission B.
Win of the week: paid off a tax lien that freed up all sorts of things for me. Of course, I got like $60 now for 2 weeks lol, but that's a small price to pay for what I've gotten taken care of!
I’m new here but I like your energy
Would love to see part 2...I wish these influencers would actually explain what it means to "be submissive." Not speak vaguely about it, what does it actually look like, day to day, to "submit to your husband"??
Part 2!
You’re doing a great job ❤❤
Notice how she says at minute 57:00 that Jezebel wants to be in leadership. That tells you a lot of the direction Milena is starting to go in her view points. Likely does not support women pastors, women cannot have an opinion on her husbands actions, etc.
My win: I moved! I was packing for last week’s win haha. Hopefully next week’s win will be that I’ve fully unpacked 😂 ✨.
ETA: I vote Sourdough Christian, it’s so fun and cute haha.
The child she shows in that video IS NOT HER CHILD. I don't understand why she tries to "hide" her children but someone else's child is being shown to the world. Even if the parents said it was okay is still weird to me. I used to like Milena but man has she changed and not for the better.
I would love to hear your commentary on her next video about submission.
She keeps reiterating that you didn't marry Jesus... but it's not your place to correct him and hold him accountable when he is not representing let alone directly going against or misusing the Word.... as if he is God...??
That soup made me laugh out loud. Not only the baby carrots it just looks gross. Like wet cat food with whole carrots. Doesn't look appetizing at all and I love gnocchi soup.
Yes! Please react to part 2!
Also the crunchy Christian is not a new thing. I’ve been in that space for over 10 years
Would be interested in part 2 for sure!
And I know you worry about interrupting too much but I personally wish you interjected even more! I have so many thoughts and I know you must
My win for the week is that I finally got my car back. I also was rear ended a few weeks ago lol
First time posting my win for the week, but we bought our first house!
That’s awesome, congratulations!! 🎉
She could have cut the baby carrots though 😂 I cook from scratch for my family of four all the time so I tend to be critical of other people's cooking 😬 And I agree with fresh diced onion and minced garlic... In most dishes lol.
I’m still at the recipe section of the video, but those ✨4 whole baby carrots✨ just sitting there and going against her recipe instructions is a major red flag for me and I personally can’t trust a word she says. Thank you B for this deep dive into a person I’ve never heard of before, but as a nosey Catholic I’m inclined to listen lol
My win for the week is receiving some unexpected money in the mail and I enjoyed a fun Ocktober fest with my parish after mass.
Those baby carrots will stay with me for the foreseeable future 😂
And woo 🎉 unexpected money is always exciting!!
@@BHaney thank you on the win woo unexpected money is always appreciated!! And yes, those baby carrots deserved so much better than what we were offered…bless her heart 🫣🙃
I love unexpected money 🥳 Also unrelated but your locs are gorgeous and the color is beautiful!
When people utilize multiple verses to back up a point it’s so important to disclose what version they are working from. I will often times see people pick the English translation that is closest to saying what they want it to rather than pausing to consider original language.
My win for the week is that I finally got a psychiatrist to help me figure out what’s going on with me!
Crunchy Christians are not new (as in “last few years”). Half my friends were in that category from 2005-2015. 😂. Never heard of the “cold brew” type tho.
EDITED TO ADD:
One thing the common “submission” teachings miss is that Paul predicates Ephesians 5:22-24 with verse 21, exhorting all believers, male and female,to submit to each other in Christ; and that verses 22-24 are fully in the context of verses 25-33.
As you have pointed out, the church did not submit to Christ so that He would lay His life down for her. He laid His life down first.
When Paul exhorted Greek believing women to win their husbands by their quiet meekness, he was speaking to women who’s husbands were pagan. (And those women had no rights in the society anyway-they had no escape options.)
He was not speaking to women who’s husbands were already Believers, as he expected *those* husbands to be actively working out their salvation and loving their wives the way Christ loves the church *already*. I can only imagine what Paul would say to professed Christian men who expected their wives to “submit” to their every whim in order for them to live rightly. 💀
(Finally, I agree with your definition of “submission”-it aligns with my understanding I’m of the nuance of the Koine Greek.)
I do love that she brings up abuse. I know it’s the minimum but it truly isn’t mentioned enough.
i got my bachelors degree in food studies and in one of my classes we had to read and critique recipe writing. my professor also does this professionally. reading that stuffed bell pepper recipe gave me a migraine hahaha
It’s interesting how she speaks with such intensity and aggression at the jezebel part. The way she talks about it seems personal, as if she’s projecting an experience with a “jezebel” tempting her husband. It sounds like she hates women and the whole tone towards the end of her video just sounds like an authoritarian giving a lecture.