When people say "You have your hands full" i love to say "Yes, and my heart is full" that's the best response. It lets your children know that you appreciate them too.
Please please come across this. I need serious prayers. My husband had a vasectomy 2 1/2 years ago and at the time we felt we were done. Now… not so much. We strongly regret the decision we made to take that decision into our own hands. I would love to ask others to join me in prayer over my husband’s mind and heart. To let his guard down and not be afraid of the reversal and that the Lord leads us to a great doctor and if it’s the Lords plan that He provides us with another little baby. Please pray for us. We would love to continue to grow the Lords kingdom.
I will pray for you! Just wanted to let you know you know 15 years ago my father in law reversed his vasectomy and he and his wife were able to conceive my sister-in-law! There is hope!
Hi there. My husband had a reversal 3 years ago in May. The Lord was gracious and we found an affordable doctor. I know my husband would be willing to answer any questions and/or just be an encouragement to your husband. Feel free to reach out with any questions......I'm praying with you 💜
When I hear “Wow! You’re hands must be full” I always reply, with “no, my heart is full, but many hands always make light work” I love to preach about how children are a BLESSING not a burden, and Id encourage anyone who disagrees to challenge that narrative of negative thinking, and remember this is just a short busy season, but we are ALL thriving, BECAUSE of it.
I am 30 weeks pregnant expecting our first child!! I have been experiencing some anxiety but surrendering it to the Lord. Prayers are appreciated. Love you guys! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
I’m due with my 2nd any day now and I’ve also had to fight some anxiety. Just keep giving it to the Lord ❤️ Your body was made to birth and you’re already the best mama for your little baby. I’ve also been listening to the Christian Hypnobirthing app and it’s given me such peace in times of high anxiety. I’ll be praying for you!
I love this episode! Would anyone be willing to pray that God would give us more babies? He has placed such a burden on my heart and I know that God's heart is for children and furthering his kingdom ❤
Kids are wonderful! But don’t forget we can fill our hands with other things to further God’s kingdom. Having kids isn’t the only way nor is it the’ best’ way. There’s so many kids out there that NEED our help and need Jesus. How amazing would the world be if we helped the people who are already here and need help?
I agree, this is a beautiful point to bring up. Some couples are not able to have children naturally so they look into other methods or there are some couples that are fulfilling Gods purpose through other ways if they choose not to have children. Couples can find purpose through bonding alone without having babies if they cannot procreate naturally.
Some people don't have a calling to adopt...nor the obligation. I was adopted, and I have no calling to adopt. I have a calling to have my own family instead. Having children is different than adopting children. Different spectrum. I will never adopt, yet I am thankful to the Lord my parents had a calling within their vocation to adopt. It's not calling within my vocation.
@@HolisticUlywhat would you say are the differences between adopting and having your own? i would also say that these are different ministries, but i’ve been told i’m wrong. i wasn’t adopted and haven’t adopted any children, so my opinion could be ill informed
@@sweetsymphonee4802 think about the physiological, biological, emotional, changes happening between parents and their baby inutero. Adoption- a parent is receiving a child with different bonding experiences to their own mother (I e. Different heart rhythms, voice etc), different set of character, demeanor, personally, dispositions. When you are adopted, you just never really feel like you belong....it may not become apparent until adulthood or until you experience a parental bond with your own biological children as I had. It's like my whole being changed as I became pregnant...I was living for the baby. Whereas when adopting, one just anticipates receiving a child without going through the sacrifice of growing one from conception...there are no physiological changes in the parents happening that influence their relationship with the child.
You have no idea how much I needed this. Thank you for obeying the Lord and talking about this subject. I am in the same season as ya’ll with my 4th baby on the way. Maybe you could do a talk about how we should take family planning as a Christian? If he knows us before we are conceived in our mother’s womb who am I to try and “control” that. I’m curious about how y’all feel about all forms of contraception? It’s a tough decision to just let go and have babies left and right lol. It’s really hard on my body, but I trust the Lord will not give me what I can’t handle.
Wow! Now that we’re a family speak so eloquently. God bless them. They are humble and genuinely give God all the glory as well. Very well versed in God’s word
I just had my first child around the same time as Katie had her most recent son. I pray God will bless me with many more! I love children. My son is the greatest blessing I’ve ever received. I genuinely don’t understand how people have one or two and decide to be “done” and sterilize theirselves
@@syotos03 I understand it’s hard, but I don’t understand literal sterilization. It seems so short sighted. Idk how you can do that without fear of regret.
love listening to you guys and so much good food for thought! however i do have two questions !!! i listened to 75% so i apologize if you addressed this and i missed it. How do we know that “be fruitful and multiply “ is for us now today? I have heard the argument that it was a command back then, because the earth was young and the population was so little. My next question is, what are your thoughts on growing and multiplying family via fostering and or adoption. shouldn’t we be fostering and adopting more as christian’s for the children who are already born and bringing them into our families? Would love to hear both couples input!!!! thanks !❤
The Biblical reply about raising children in this time. Yes. Never ever heard it put that way. Raising 4 children 4 and under I get this so many times and I just never knew the right response. Thank you for this collab. Beautiful Godly wisdom in these families!!!
When people say I have my hands full, I realize they don't necessarily mean it critically... even my very pro life mil says it, but then she agrees when I say, Yes and isn't it such a blessing!? Which is usually how I respond to that, something like, Yes we are so blessed! And I take the opportunity to publicly praise my children by saying how wonderful they are , what blessings they are to me! ❤
I love this! My husband and I have been married for almost 3 years, and I continually battle “is it time to start a family or do we continue to enjoy ‘us’”. My biggest hold back is anxiety over the future, when I know it isn’t up to me! How do you get past the fear of comparison of not rasing your child(ren) in a house while you’re in an apartment + the fear of the financial aspect? I know you can never financially plan for children, but I just ask to be surrounded in prayer of when it is our time, the Lord will provide and give us peace over this decision!
So so good!!!! I wish I had this mindset when I was first married. Definitely going to train my children to have a biblical perspective on having children. It warms my heart to hear my 6 year old son say he wants to have 10!!
This was crazy. I heard north Idaho and immediately my ears perked up. Ive lived in north Idaho my whole life. So cool guys. Definitely will be following them now!
I grew up in a church that pushed the be fruitful and multiply verse, I came from a family of 8 but now that I am married with one child and I have fertility issues so I am looked as I am not obeying God because I don’t have a bunch of kids. This is a hard topic. I grew up in this culture and mindset so it’s a mix of emotions.
I grew up in a family like this too and I think children are an amazing gift and the number one area of discipleship if they have been given to you, but I have also felt that having children can become an idol as well. I have two young children and while I want to say I am done I am hesitant because God keeps placing thing a like this in my path. But I do know that I don’t feel called to more right now and I am approaching that thoughtfully and prayerfully as I am mindful in raising the ones I have now and also my husband does not feel called to more at this time either. We both feel a strong call to be involved in the church and be involved in the lives of other families. I know growing up it was too hard to have a lot of opportunities to be pushed out of my comfort zone and do life alongside other christians and I grew judgemental and legalistic to people who weren’t doing things the same as my family. I don’t think that was my parents intention but it can be a risk if you are parenting from a place of overwhelm I think. I don’t know if this helps but I think having an open heart to more children but not idolizing it can be a healthy posture too. And in the end it’s between you and God and He opens the womb to conceive and He is also good and enough if He only gives you one. Our identity is Christ and we can be content whatever the circumstances He places us in.
I'm so sorry this has been your experience. I think what you described is the flip side of the coin of society that says, Don't have children, or only one or two... and neither viewpoints are Christ-like!
I would like to add something my pastor said that's very important: being fruitful and multiply does NOT only mean having children. It also means be fruitful in your business multiply ressources, food, business, be fruitful in how you share the Word, multiply conversions etc.... we shouldn't narrow God's word, God has so much in store for us, as Christians we have a purpose in Him and that doesn't only mean bring up kids 😊 some might prefer to keep their live serving the Lord and not have a family not be married, so they can, like Apostle Paul consecrate their life to the Lord. So they should be able to read these lines and think of other ways to be fruitful.
4 kids in 4yrs here 💗 all girls!!! We are trying to wait a couple years so we have enough time, attention, money for each of them but we are hopeful for more in the future!! I just turned 30 so I think waiting a year or 2 should be okay. I would love multiples tho 😍🥰 my pregnancies are incredibly difficult as I suffer from HG but of course so incredibly worth it ❤️❤️❤️
Wonderful pod cast! Thank you guys. There is a family that has a RUclips channel called the Jordan Michael Tuesday show that does a great skit on you have your hands full. They have 8 children. It is worth watching. Their channel is great.
Most people that advise me to not have more kids are a lot less happy than I am so why would I listen to their advice? These are beautiful years of my life, why would I cut them short
I’m married and feel so bad because I don’t desire to have children. I never felt an overwhelming desire to have kids and have never felt a maternal instinct. I want to desire kids if that’s what The Lord wants for me.
I have a question. I am one of six kids, and we are all grown. We were raised in a Christian household. Now all but 2 of us have either left the Christian walk and/or are not on speaking terms with my parents. They weren't perfect but tried. It's discouraging to think that could happen. We are starting our family now. Does anyone have any wisdom/encouragement to offer? I don't want to suffer the same thing.
Scary! I’m 1 of 6 also, with one lost/confused. Definitely teach God at home (not just at church), and don’t shy away from questions. Get understanding of the cultural environment your kids are growing up into, so you can understand their point of view while still combating culture’s lies with biblical truth. Give them a habit of going to church faithfully and being involved. Choose your home church wisely! Pray, pray, pray! I think the thing that destabilized the one sibling of mine was my parents at some point living (states) apart, and the parent my sibling was with was the less active in both faith and parenting, and it was during formative teenage years. That mattered. Teach your kids to pray, to worship, to follow God’s ways, etc. etc. this is NOT expert advice, this is just my two cents! I feel you!!! That is really painful, but you will succeed with Christ! Proverbs 3:5-6!
We have had two miscarriages trying to have our second child. It’s hard because it’s not in our control to have more children. And wondering why God wouldn’t want us to
I think we just have to be careful tonsay thst every christian marraige should involve children. I believe most marraiges should. And if they dont it shpuld never be for selfish reasons like going out and having fun , not wanting yo loose your owb time ect. Howrver they may dedicate there lives uo mission trips , or choosing to foster ect
Also the fruitful znd multipy was after the flood and when Adam and eve where created which was more around filling the earth as there was bearly any people.
I think if someone feels the lord calls them to none, one or 10 all Is appropriate ! I think it only becomes inappropriate if people aren't having children because of selfish reasons or choosing to have 10 kids thst they genuinely can't afford to feed I think it's a wisdom thing
I agree. That scripture in genesis “be fruitful and multiply” gets taken out of context so much. We are free in Christ. Nowhere are we commanded to keep reproducing and never stop. It’s putting women in bondage. Being told you have to accept the possibility of having 8+ kids especially if you marry younger is not fair. Pregnancy isn’t easy and expecting women to carry again and again and again is selfish and dangerous. Look at the Duggars- the wife had complications and dangerous pregnancy’s towards the end and should have stopped- she even risked her own life. Milena didn’t even wait long enough between her miscarriage and conceived her latest baby whilst she was still bleeding from the D&C. It’s insanity. This anti contraception stance is fundamentalist and not biblical. Women are not called to be mothers we are called to be disciples. Not all women will marry to even begin with. What no one wants to acknowledge is the idolatry and competition that comes with these circles. It’s all about the image and aesthetic. Christian couples should be open to life- we are known by the Lord in the womb. But we have a free will and came into existence from the freewill of our own parents when they came together. Yes the Lord knits us in the womb but we are not stopping a potential persons conception and denying them the life they could have lived if we choose to use contraception. It’s very strange thinking and not biblical.
Kids become idols for SO MANY people. The best way you can serve God is to be single and give him your entire life. But God gave us the sacrament of marriage so we don’t have to sin sexually. And naturally kids will typically follow. But if they don’t… nothing inherently wrong with that.
What are your thoughts on the context of being fruitful and multiplying in the Old Testament? Just because at that point they were trying to fill the Earth where today the Earth is pretty filled. Not saying you were wrong. Just wondering if you think it could apply differently.
Contrary to popular belief, the world is not well/overpopulated. But I think they are simply saying Christians should stop trying to be so in control of how many kids they have and also stop seeing kids as stress added to their lives, but rather wealth. God has only given me one so far, and that is totally fine if that’s all I have. I would venture to say they’d agree with me. God will give some 2, some 4, some 10. We are to have gladness no matter what. Also, personally, if I only have the one I have now, or if I had none, I would adopt just because that is on my heart; but if a couple didn’t have any and wanted to devote themselves to Christ, it is not bad, it is good. But adoption is also good. But IVF is not a good choice. It’s not children at all costs. The point is that God should have the final say. (My thoughts are disorganized but hopefully make sense lol)
@@gettingseriousgettingolder3011 I meeeeeeaaan, I see your point LOL, butttt there are still plenty of places in the world which are uninhabited or grossly underinhabited; we (society as a whole, not individual families) just choose to design and live in concrete jungles rather than disperse. Interestingly, the global conversation has quickly gone from over/depopulation to repopulation as people have chosen to give birth less, abort more, etc. (e.g. China going from 1 to 2 child policy, societies with way more aged than young, etc.) just something to think about!
@@marciaoppong Welllll, maybe China can take some of India and Africa's starving children and raise them as their own. Nationalism, Religion, and veiled eugenics have done much harm to the true meaning of "Love Thy Neighbor". We close our eyes. Just sayin'.
@@gettingseriousgettingolder3011 I hear ya. Unfortunately, it appears that Africans who are struggling are not doing so bc of lack of resource or overpopulation but rather broken systems and corrupt government/politicians. We definitely need to do better at true religion, which is helping the widow and the orphan (and needy); but at the same time, Christ did say the poor you will have with you always :( It’s a reality; financial/physical wealth will never be evenly dispersed. But when Christ returns, the last will be made first, and vice versa, and everyone will be truly “rich”, according to inheritance in Christ. That gives me hope. But I’m pro adoption over IVF for sure, and I want 5-6 children personally, but 1-2 adopted for sure. But so far I only have one, and I’ll be ok with that and a few adopted if that’s how the Lord guides us. 😊
There are definitely people out there like yall who raise their kids well and with lots of love, so it's good that ya'll are having more kids. But, do you think that all Christians should have more kids? Particularly, what about the people who feel like they are drowning in parenting, or are not showing the kids they have much love. Do you say that they should have more kids as well??
From what I understand, That part of scripture is prophecy Jesus made referring to a judgment on Israel for rejecting their Messiah. Many Christians believe that part of this prophecy of judgment was fulfilled during the Siege of Jerusalem in 70 CE. And many people believe that part of this prophecy will be fulfilled in the return of Christ. However, this particular verse of Mark 13:17 seems to be referring to this event of 70 CE. The Siege & destruction of Jerusalem in 70 CE was an atrocious event. I have heard that is that many Christians actually fled the area and spared their lives due to the warnings that Jesus made to flee. It would have been harder for women who were pregnant or with young children to flee quickly from this sort of thing. So really, in God’s wisdom, this was a warning for the church to flee when this was happening, it was not a decree that God was going to judge pregnant women and mothers in particular. He certainly was not prescribing people not to have a children.
Honest question, not trolling. How did Adam and Eve fill up the world without other families? Were they multiplying among themselves? Or were there more other people created for this purpose?
It would have likely been among themselves. However, gene pools obviously weren’t messy like they are now - so it wouldn’t necessarily be unethical to do it that way.
Well okay... but that would mean brothers and sisters, which then would mean same genes and that should cause a lot of disabilities because of same gene mutations. I find it difficult to understand how that could lead to a healthy population as well as how to get over the ethical part of it, considering we are naturally inclined to avoid sexual contact with our parents/siblings.
@@raineldas2342 honestly it’s basic biology! Just think of dogs. Pure bred dogs have become very unhealthy until recent years, but that wasn’t always the case. The disabilities etc. comes from many generations of inner breeding.
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When people say "You have your hands full" i love to say "Yes, and my heart is full" that's the best response. It lets your children know that you appreciate them too.
Please please come across this. I need serious prayers. My husband had a vasectomy 2 1/2 years ago and at the time we felt we were done. Now… not so much. We strongly regret the decision we made to take that decision into our own hands. I would love to ask others to join me in prayer over my husband’s mind and heart. To let his guard down and not be afraid of the reversal and that the Lord leads us to a great doctor and if it’s the Lords plan that He provides us with another little baby. Please pray for us. We would love to continue to grow the Lords kingdom.
I will pray for you! Just wanted to let you know you know 15 years ago my father in law reversed his vasectomy and he and his wife were able to conceive my sister-in-law! There is hope!
Hi there. My husband had a reversal 3 years ago in May. The Lord was gracious and we found an affordable doctor. I know my husband would be willing to answer any questions and/or just be an encouragement to your husband. Feel free to reach out with any questions......I'm praying with you 💜
@@Honey_bee-09 thank you so so much
@@amandamills9741 thank you :)
Praying for you & the Lord’s will for your family! 🙏🏼
“The goal is not empty hands!” WOW - that hit me hard and I cried 🥹 So true!
When anyone says “wow, you have your hands full”,
I say “they keep my heart full!”
When I hear “Wow! You’re hands must be full” I always reply, with “no, my heart is full, but many hands always make light work”
I love to preach about how children are a BLESSING not a burden, and Id encourage anyone who disagrees to challenge that narrative of negative thinking, and remember this is just a short busy season, but we are ALL thriving, BECAUSE of it.
Ohhhh I love this response!!
I am 30 weeks pregnant expecting our first child!! I have been experiencing some anxiety but surrendering it to the Lord. Prayers are appreciated. Love you guys! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Congratulations! Praying for you! The Lord is your Confidence! Proverbs 3:26🙏🏼😍
I’m due with my 2nd any day now and I’ve also had to fight some anxiety. Just keep giving it to the Lord ❤️ Your body was made to birth and you’re already the best mama for your little baby. I’ve also been listening to the Christian Hypnobirthing app and it’s given me such peace in times of high anxiety. I’ll be praying for you!
You will do excellent 🩵 God bless you and your spouse as you embark on this new journey!
I love this episode! Would anyone be willing to pray that God would give us more babies? He has placed such a burden on my heart and I know that God's heart is for children and furthering his kingdom ❤
Praying for you!🙏🏼
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Praying! 🤍
Praying so hard for you! Im right there with you
Kids are wonderful! But don’t forget we can fill our hands with other things to further God’s kingdom. Having kids isn’t the only way nor is it the’ best’ way. There’s so many kids out there that NEED our help and need Jesus. How amazing would the world be if we helped the people who are already here and need help?
We can do both it doesn’t have to be one or the other 😊
I agree, this is a beautiful point to bring up. Some couples are not able to have children naturally so they look into other methods or there are some couples that are fulfilling Gods purpose through other ways if they choose not to have children. Couples can find purpose through bonding alone without having babies if they cannot procreate naturally.
Some people don't have a calling to adopt...nor the obligation. I was adopted, and I have no calling to adopt. I have a calling to have my own family instead. Having children is different than adopting children. Different spectrum. I will never adopt, yet I am thankful to the Lord my parents had a calling within their vocation to adopt. It's not calling within my vocation.
@@HolisticUlywhat would you say are the differences between adopting and having your own? i would also say that these are different ministries, but i’ve been told i’m wrong. i wasn’t adopted and haven’t adopted any children, so my opinion could be ill informed
@@sweetsymphonee4802 think about the physiological, biological, emotional, changes happening between parents and their baby inutero. Adoption- a parent is receiving a child with different bonding experiences to their own mother (I e. Different heart rhythms, voice etc), different set of character, demeanor, personally, dispositions. When you are adopted, you just never really feel like you belong....it may not become apparent until adulthood or until you experience a parental bond with your own biological children as I had. It's like my whole being changed as I became pregnant...I was living for the baby. Whereas when adopting, one just anticipates receiving a child without going through the sacrifice of growing one from conception...there are no physiological changes in the parents happening that influence their relationship with the child.
You have no idea how much I needed this. Thank you for obeying the Lord and talking about this subject. I am in the same season as ya’ll with my 4th baby on the way. Maybe you could do a talk about how we should take family planning as a Christian? If he knows us before we are conceived in our mother’s womb who am I to try and “control” that. I’m curious about how y’all feel about all forms of contraception? It’s a tough decision to just let go and have babies left and right lol. It’s really hard on my body, but I trust the Lord will not give me what I can’t handle.
Wow! Now that we’re a family speak so eloquently. God bless them. They are humble and genuinely give God all the glory as well. Very well versed in God’s word
I just had my first child around the same time as Katie had her most recent son. I pray God will bless me with many more! I love children. My son is the greatest blessing I’ve ever received. I genuinely don’t understand how people have one or two and decide to be “done” and sterilize theirselves
If you wait till your baby becomes a toddler then you will understand why people say that.
@@syotos03 we have 6 under 8 and still don't understand.
@@syotos03 I understand it’s hard, but I don’t understand literal sterilization. It seems so short sighted. Idk how you can do that without fear of regret.
I am praying after two miscarriages last year that God CAN restore my womb and fill my arms with babies I have a deep desire to love and raise!
I know I'm late but I'll be praying for you. Please pray for me I've had 3 miscarriages.❤
love listening to you guys and so much good food for thought! however i do have two questions !!! i listened to 75% so i apologize if you addressed this and i missed it. How do we know that “be fruitful and multiply “ is for us now today? I have heard the argument that it was a command back then, because the earth was young and the population was so little. My next question is, what are your thoughts on growing and multiplying family via fostering and or adoption. shouldn’t we be fostering and adopting more as christian’s for the children who are already born and bringing them into our families?
Would love to hear both couples input!!!! thanks !❤
SUCH A GOOD POINT
Makes my heart happy to see young couples all about their Father's business. I enjoyed this interview.
I am so happy that there are still
People out there who believe the only and Absolute true Word of God! Thank God for you all!
The Biblical reply about raising children in this time. Yes. Never ever heard it put that way. Raising 4 children 4 and under I get this so many times and I just never knew the right response. Thank you for this collab. Beautiful Godly wisdom in these families!!!
You guys have revolutionized my parenting journey! Thanks so much for the positive influence you exert especially in today's culture. 🙏
When people say wow your hands are full to me in public my go to response is always absolutely In the best possible way they are
“The joy is bigger than the mess”
When people say I have my hands full, I realize they don't necessarily mean it critically... even my very pro life mil says it, but then she agrees when I say, Yes and isn't it such a blessing!? Which is usually how I respond to that, something like, Yes we are so blessed! And I take the opportunity to publicly praise my children by saying how wonderful they are , what blessings they are to me! ❤
I love this! My husband and I have been married for almost 3 years, and I continually battle “is it time to start a family or do we continue to enjoy ‘us’”. My biggest hold back is anxiety over the future, when I know it isn’t up to me! How do you get past the fear of comparison of not rasing your child(ren) in a house while you’re in an apartment + the fear of the financial aspect? I know you can never financially plan for children, but I just ask to be surrounded in prayer of when it is our time, the Lord will provide and give us peace over this decision!
God provides as you walk by faith :) I know, from first hand experience!
Wow, this was so good! I'm glad you brought them on as a guest!!😁
So so good!!!! I wish I had this mindset when I was first married. Definitely going to train my children to have a biblical perspective on having children. It warms my heart to hear my 6 year old son say he wants to have 10!!
This was crazy. I heard north Idaho and immediately my ears perked up. Ive lived in north Idaho my whole life. So cool guys. Definitely will be following them now!
I grew up in a church that pushed the be fruitful and multiply verse, I came from a family of 8 but now that I am married with one child and I have fertility issues so I am looked as I am not obeying God because I don’t have a bunch of kids. This is a hard topic. I grew up in this culture and mindset so it’s a mix of emotions.
I grew up in a family like this too and I think children are an amazing gift and the number one area of discipleship if they have been given to you, but I have also felt that having children can become an idol as well. I have two young children and while I want to say I am done I am hesitant because God keeps placing thing a like this in my path. But I do know that I don’t feel called to more right now and I am approaching that thoughtfully and prayerfully as I am mindful in raising the ones I have now and also my husband does not feel called to more at this time either. We both feel a strong call to be involved in the church and be involved in the lives of other families. I know growing up it was too hard to have a lot of opportunities to be pushed out of my comfort zone and do life alongside other christians and I grew judgemental and legalistic to people who weren’t doing things the same as my family. I don’t think that was my parents intention but it can be a risk if you are parenting from a place of overwhelm I think. I don’t know if this helps but I think having an open heart to more children but not idolizing it can be a healthy posture too. And in the end it’s between you and God and He opens the womb to conceive and He is also good and enough if He only gives you one. Our identity is Christ and we can be content whatever the circumstances He places us in.
I'm so sorry this has been your experience. I think what you described is the flip side of the coin of society that says, Don't have children, or only one or two... and neither viewpoints are Christ-like!
@@justinandmelindabaarda4583you are so right... family can become an idol too!!
I would like to add something my pastor said that's very important: being fruitful and multiply does NOT only mean having children. It also means be fruitful in your business multiply ressources, food, business, be fruitful in how you share the Word, multiply conversions etc.... we shouldn't narrow God's word, God has so much in store for us, as Christians we have a purpose in Him and that doesn't only mean bring up kids 😊 some might prefer to keep their live serving the Lord and not have a family not be married, so they can, like Apostle Paul consecrate their life to the Lord. So they should be able to read these lines and think of other ways to be fruitful.
34:23 yes!!! Long term vision of our children and future generations 👏🏼
I love Elisha and Katie! What a good collab podcast!
Wow - this fully changed my perspective❤ ty for blessing me today
Loved Now that were a family podcast. They are talented on interviewing people. Just something Jordan and milena can improve on for future podcasts.
Giddy over here. You guys just keep blessing us, this was awesome, so inspiring. Both podcasts!
Love this! Gives me hope seeing young families living out Gods word!
4 kids in 4yrs here 💗 all girls!!!
We are trying to wait a couple years so we have enough time, attention, money for each of them but we are hopeful for more in the future!!
I just turned 30 so I think waiting a year or 2 should be okay. I would love multiples tho 😍🥰 my pregnancies are incredibly difficult as I suffer from HG but of course so incredibly worth it ❤️❤️❤️
Loved this episode!!!
I would love to hear a conversation between yall and Karissa Collins.
So excited about this! Love both podcasts!❤
Wonderful pod cast! Thank you guys. There is a family that has a RUclips channel called the Jordan Michael Tuesday show that does a great skit on you have your hands full. They have 8 children. It is worth watching. Their channel is great.
My favorite RUclips families ❤❤🎉
Milena, where do you get your dresses? I’m needing a change of style to my modest wifey look and I love your dresses!
Most of them are from Neuflora, but I've also gotten some from Madewell, Simple Retro, Free People and Nothing Fits But! ☺️
Ooooh sweet combo!
I love this two podcasts!!
Most people that advise me to not have more kids are a lot less happy than I am so why would I listen to their advice? These are beautiful years of my life, why would I cut them short
My husband and I have been married almost 3 years. We are trying for our first baby ❤ and trying to finish renovating our house.
Pregnant with my 3rd this is so good ❤
I’m married and feel so bad because I don’t desire to have children. I never felt an overwhelming desire to have kids and have never felt a maternal instinct.
I want to desire kids if that’s what The Lord wants for me.
Loved this!! Thanks!!
I have a question. I am one of six kids, and we are all grown. We were raised in a Christian household. Now all but 2 of us have either left the Christian walk and/or are not on speaking terms with my parents. They weren't perfect but tried.
It's discouraging to think that could happen.
We are starting our family now.
Does anyone have any wisdom/encouragement to offer? I don't want to suffer the same thing.
Scary! I’m 1 of 6 also, with one lost/confused. Definitely teach God at home (not just at church), and don’t shy away from questions. Get understanding of the cultural environment your kids are growing up into, so you can understand their point of view while still combating culture’s lies with biblical truth. Give them a habit of going to church faithfully and being involved. Choose your home church wisely! Pray, pray, pray! I think the thing that destabilized the one sibling of mine was my parents at some point living (states) apart, and the parent my sibling was with was the less active in both faith and parenting, and it was during formative teenage years. That mattered. Teach your kids to pray, to worship, to follow God’s ways, etc. etc.
this is NOT expert advice, this is just my two cents! I feel you!!! That is really painful, but you will succeed with Christ! Proverbs 3:5-6!
Great video. Everytime i look at Jordan, I only see Alethea lol
My hubs showed me that TikTok, was so neat! 🥰
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What a great collaboration 😊
Amazing episode!! 🙏🏼
This was just so good
This was great thanks 😊
We have had two miscarriages trying to have our second child. It’s hard because it’s not in our control to have more children. And wondering why God wouldn’t want us to
I have one child and people will tell me “oh you’ve got your hands full.”
I think we just have to be careful tonsay thst every christian marraige should involve children. I believe most marraiges should. And if they dont it shpuld never be for selfish reasons like going out and having fun , not wanting yo loose your owb time ect. Howrver they may dedicate there lives uo mission trips , or choosing to foster ect
Also the fruitful znd multipy was after the flood and when Adam and eve where created which was more around filling the earth as there was bearly any people.
I think if someone feels the lord calls them to none, one or 10 all Is appropriate ! I think it only becomes inappropriate if people aren't having children because of selfish reasons or choosing to have 10 kids thst they genuinely can't afford to feed I think it's a wisdom thing
I agree. That scripture in genesis “be fruitful and multiply” gets taken out of context so much. We are free in Christ. Nowhere are we commanded to keep reproducing and never stop. It’s putting women in bondage. Being told you have to accept the possibility of having 8+ kids especially if you marry younger is not fair. Pregnancy isn’t easy and expecting women to carry again and again and again is selfish and dangerous. Look at the Duggars- the wife had complications and dangerous pregnancy’s towards the end and should have stopped- she even risked her own life. Milena didn’t even wait long enough between her miscarriage and conceived her latest baby whilst she was still bleeding from the D&C. It’s insanity.
This anti contraception stance is fundamentalist and not biblical. Women are not called to be mothers we are called to be disciples. Not all women will marry to even begin with. What no one wants to acknowledge is the idolatry and competition that comes with these circles. It’s all about the image and aesthetic. Christian couples should be open to life- we are known by the Lord in the womb. But we have a free will and came into existence from the freewill of our own parents when they came together. Yes the Lord knits us in the womb but we are not stopping a potential persons conception and denying them the life they could have lived if we choose to use contraception. It’s very strange thinking and not biblical.
Kids become idols for SO MANY people. The best way you can serve God is to be single and give him your entire life. But God gave us the sacrament of marriage so we don’t have to sin sexually. And naturally kids will typically follow. But if they don’t… nothing inherently wrong with that.
@@wv9459 beautifully put !
What are your thoughts on the context of being fruitful and multiplying in the Old Testament? Just because at that point they were trying to fill the Earth where today the Earth is pretty filled. Not saying you were wrong. Just wondering if you think it could apply differently.
Contrary to popular belief, the world is not well/overpopulated. But I think they are simply saying Christians should stop trying to be so in control of how many kids they have and also stop seeing kids as stress added to their lives, but rather wealth. God has only given me one so far, and that is totally fine if that’s all I have. I would venture to say they’d agree with me. God will give some 2, some 4, some 10. We are to have gladness no matter what. Also, personally, if I only have the one I have now, or if I had none, I would adopt just because that is on my heart; but if a couple didn’t have any and wanted to devote themselves to Christ, it is not bad, it is good. But adoption is also good. But IVF is not a good choice. It’s not children at all costs. The point is that God should have the final say. (My thoughts are disorganized but hopefully make sense lol)
@@marciaoppong 8 billion people not enough for ya? Children are a blessing, but let's be real about world population.
@@gettingseriousgettingolder3011 I meeeeeeaaan, I see your point LOL, butttt there are still plenty of places in the world which are uninhabited or grossly underinhabited; we (society as a whole, not individual families) just choose to design and live in concrete jungles rather than disperse. Interestingly, the global conversation has quickly gone from over/depopulation to repopulation as people have chosen to give birth less, abort more, etc. (e.g. China going from 1 to 2 child policy, societies with way more aged than young, etc.) just something to think about!
@@marciaoppong Welllll, maybe China can take some of India and Africa's starving children and raise them as their own. Nationalism, Religion, and veiled eugenics have done much harm to the true meaning of "Love Thy Neighbor". We close our eyes. Just sayin'.
@@gettingseriousgettingolder3011 I hear ya. Unfortunately, it appears that Africans who are struggling are not doing so bc of lack of resource or overpopulation but rather broken systems and corrupt government/politicians. We definitely need to do better at true religion, which is helping the widow and the orphan (and needy); but at the same time, Christ did say the poor you will have with you always :(
It’s a reality; financial/physical wealth will never be evenly dispersed. But when Christ returns, the last will be made first, and vice versa, and everyone will be truly “rich”, according to inheritance in Christ. That gives me hope. But I’m pro adoption over IVF for sure, and I want 5-6 children personally, but 1-2 adopted for sure. But so far I only have one, and I’ll be ok with that and a few adopted if that’s how the Lord guides us. 😊
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There are definitely people out there like yall who raise their kids well and with lots of love, so it's good that ya'll are having more kids. But, do you think that all Christians should have more kids? Particularly, what about the people who feel like they are drowning in parenting, or are not showing the kids they have much love. Do you say that they should have more kids as well??
What would your response be for those who quote Mark 13:17 as a reason to not have children?
From what I understand, That part of scripture is prophecy Jesus made referring to a judgment on Israel for rejecting their Messiah. Many Christians believe that part of this prophecy of judgment was fulfilled during the Siege of Jerusalem in 70 CE. And many people believe that part of this prophecy will be fulfilled in the return of Christ. However, this particular verse of Mark 13:17 seems to be referring to this event of 70 CE. The Siege & destruction of Jerusalem in 70 CE was an atrocious event. I have heard that is that many Christians actually fled the area and spared their lives due to the warnings that Jesus made to flee. It would have been harder for women who were pregnant or with young children to flee quickly from this sort of thing. So really, in God’s wisdom, this was a warning for the church to flee when this was happening, it was not a decree that God was going to judge pregnant women and mothers in particular. He certainly was not prescribing people not to have a children.
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I would love to have another baby so muuch 😢😢😢😢 but in this situation I can not make it happen :(
Honest question, not trolling. How did Adam and Eve fill up the world without other families? Were they multiplying among themselves?
Or were there more other people created for this purpose?
Among themselves first ofc. It was just them 2 first. Then they spread
We’re all related basically
It would have likely been among themselves. However, gene pools obviously weren’t messy like they are now - so it wouldn’t necessarily be unethical to do it that way.
Well okay... but that would mean brothers and sisters, which then would mean same genes and that should cause a lot of disabilities because of same gene mutations. I find it difficult to understand how that could lead to a healthy population as well as how to get over the ethical part of it, considering we are naturally inclined to avoid sexual contact with our parents/siblings.
@@raineldas2342 honestly it’s basic biology! Just think of dogs. Pure bred dogs have become very unhealthy until recent years, but that wasn’t always the case. The disabilities etc. comes from many generations of inner breeding.