WHAT!!! You can cut without registration marks! Man! Thanks for this. I have been using my Cameo 4 for almost a year now and I had no idea that you can print and cut without registrations marks. Thanks a million!
You're welcome, and glad that this is exciting information. I had only done print and cut work, without registration marks, until about a week ago. I had a small project, that was time sensitive, so only needed about half of the sheet. Since I had the extra room, I decided to try registration marks. Ironically, it cut worse than my non-registration marked projects, and I had to trim all of the project woth scissors. I have no plan to use registration marks again. Lol
You're a literal godsend. I've been having so many issues attempting to laminate with stupid registration marks. I've ruined several otherwise great stickers and lost a lot of materials. Thank you so much for your tutorial!
Okay so this has to have been the most thorough tutorials I've watched on how to "print and cut" without guide lines and I e had my Cameos for going on five years.😳 Thank you for your time on this. I now have a new technique under my brain belt.
You're welcome. It was a lot of info and time, but I had many requests for the info, so I was happy to make it. My reason for making these videos was to be thorough, because too many people told me how they felt lost after following other tutorials. So you're exactly right on that. Thanks for watching.
Awesome! Happy that this solved your struggles. When they do what we expect of them, these little Cameos are impressive machines. Thank you for the compliment, and you're welcome.
Thanks for this!I was about to cut with a huge registration mark on every corner and this allowed me to use so much more of my paper! It was also my first cut on a silhouette machine ever!😉
Fantastic! Glad that it was able to help. I completely agree. My main reason for figuring out how to cut without registration marks was due to the loss of so much material. Now I can make bigger designs, which are especially helpful with shirts, and I waste so much less material, than I would, otherwise. Thanks for watching.
Fantastic. I'm happy to hear that it was beneficial to you. It is definitely a little overwhelming, when first starting out. If you make an effort, like you're doing, that overwhelming feeling goes away pretty quickly
Well done and thanks for help. Being able to cut from the entire page without registration marks helpful. My Cameo 4 is not picking up registration marks and your tutorial just what was needed.
Perfect! Glad that I was able to help. I've actually never tried printing the registration marks... I didn't like the idea of throwing away so much usable material, so I came up with this solution instead.
I have had that issue too with not registering the marks, not matter what I tried, it's getting frustrating as I have only had my machine 1 week since purchase
I needed this. so thorough. I had trouble lining up the mat so thank you for talking about the right side as well as the left side. this will be so much easier and quicker than using registration marks as I have a dark room and blue tooth to the cutter so sometimes it won't read registration marks. Once again thank you so so much
You're welcome. Glad that there was beneficial info for you. I've heard mixed results and consistency over Bluetooth. I haven't tried my Cameo over Bluetooth, but my printer was having lots of strange issues. Once I went to a wired connection, all of the issues went away. If Bluetooth works for you, that's great. I've heard that upgrading the Bluetooth "dongle" can make a big difference, if you do encounter any issues.
Thanks for this video! I just ordered my Silhouette Portrait 3 yesterday, my first one! I just noticed this video was posted yesterday lol kudos and thanks!
I've had many people request I make videos, so you are correct... I've just recently started making these videos. You're welcome, and I hope that it makes using your new machine a better experience.
I just clicked on this video. Thanks for such a great tutorial on doing print & cut. You really explained the process in such detail & made it very easy to understand..Thanks for all of the tips
You're welcome. Also, thank you for the kind words. If you happen to try the technique, and it isn't as accurate as it should/could be..... my most recent video is a follow-up to this one, which shows how to make a guide for more accurate cuts. Thanks for watching.
@@Richard97402 I need help. On minute 28-29, when you select each line to disable the cut, my 2 lines (internal offset & edge) would always go together either no cut or cut. When I click cut edge, only the outside line will appear red. I rewatched that part many times but I couldn't do it :(
@@Richard97402 Also I placed the paper and matt just like video and they don't align with the cut line Edit: I made it worked but I had to place the matt about 1mm over the gray line.
@@Stellaaa1989 the most likely case is that you have them grouped. If they're grouped the software treats them like one item, so they would both be cut, or not cut, depending on what you click. If you ungroup them, and then click each individually, it should allow you to choose which cuts and which doesn't.
Thank you for the video! By the way on ecotank printers you can turn up the dry time of you so wish to in your printers settings. If you ever work with thinner papers that curl up when you print dark photos on them, turning up the dry time solves that in my experience. Thought I'd throw that out there. I'm a big fan of the eco tank printers, saves me so much money on ink
This is brilliant.. I think I’ll get more accurate cuts with this. I’ve gotten some funky cuts with the registration marks because lighting or random things would throw off the machine scanning. Definitely giving this a try. Thank you for sharing your knowledge
You're welcome. Follow-up video, hopefully within the next 48 hours, to help dial in the cut, if your machine isn't as accurate as mine. Glad that I could help, and keep an eye out for the next one, if yours isn't cutting quite right.
You're welcome. Thank you, as well. I've got a few more videos planned, just buried in work recently, so they're slower than I'd like them to be. Hopefully I can get another one uploaded in the next couple of days.
Thank you. My C4 has only P&C accurately 3 times in 3 yrs. So figured out this work around a while back but I still learned A LOT from your video. Thank you so much. 🙏🏻
Happy to hear it. I've started using the built-in print and cut feature, when my designs are small enough to fit within the registration marks. It adds extra confidence in the cut. For bigger pieces though, I still use this technique.
541 Richard, you are a phenomenal instructor! Thank you for taking the time to create this video and sharing your expertise. I appreciate your no nonsense approach to telling us what we need to know and loved seeing your "happy place" work area! I am waiting for delivery of my Cameo 4 but will continue to watch more of your tutorials. I have a Brother Scan n Cut machine but am excited to learn and use the Silhouette design features with the Cameo! I do plan to purchase the BusEd software.
Thank you for the kind words, and glad that you're excited. I am very happy with the business edition of the software. There are things that get asked, constantly, where I say "with the business edition you......" it can do a lot, and the extra features are very handy for some of my projects. I've been incredibly busy, recently, but hope to get back to making videos again, soon. If you come up with any questions, before I get a chance to answer them, feel free to post them as a comment, and I could put them in a future video. Thanks for watching.
This was an amazing tutorial. Lately I have been having issues with registration marks so I am definitely going to try this. I really like how you fed the sticker paper with laminate in the laminator that way. I have never tried that before but I will. One thing I do is run it through the laminator the long way (portrait mode) and then run it through again length wise (landscape mode).
I thanks you 100000 times! I just found your channel and subscribed...I wish I could click like 1 million times. I am going to try this with my cut images asap. I have wasted so much time and material on tracing and registration mark issues with my cameo 4 plus and bought a cricut...was about to learn how to use it today until I saw tour video...I was giving up on cameo...I am hoping this helps me...I will watch your steps and follow/pause to do exactly what you did in my design!!! You made my whole life better 😆
Hopefully this can make your experience better. I definitely wouldn't recommend moving to Cricut. This software is a little harder to learn, but that's because it can do so much more than what Cricut allows. I'm glad that you appreciate the info, and hope that I can make some new videos soon. I finally got my new shop space built, and 99% done, so have the space to start filming again.
Phew, that was a long watch! You taught me a few things and your enthusiasm is pretty charming :) I was having trouble understanding how my machine expects me to load the mat and material, seeing where you have your guide and the rollers gave me a clue for my next attempt. Learning is so tedious sometimes - I'm wasting a lot! Thanks for the video
Thanks for the watch and the compliments. I am definitely excited by these crafts, Silhouette, and helping in general. I am actually in the process of building a new shop, for my office. I have been slow on videos, because I am building all of this. Made the structure, insulated, and about 90% done with the drywall/sheet rock. I'm excited to be able to do more videos and continue helping. Also maybe a video to show off the new space, when I get to that point. 🥳 I'm glad that you were able to learn some new things and benefit from the video.
@@Richard97402 oh stop, you’re making the menfolk in my life seem useless :p That sounds very exciting for you. Do you have advice on the print for your guard/guide? I think it’s a great idea. I made a bunch more progress on my project (paper cut/layered card) since watching your video :)
Thank you for the video. Very detailed and explained well. I learned a lot. For the thin white lines on the penguin, I would just retouch them with the Silhouette drafting pens.
This was pretty early on in my use of this technique. I trimmed what I didn't like, in the moment. Moving forward I've just done a slightly larger bleed area to cover any inaccuracies in the cuts.
Watching this in 2024! This is very helpful. I just got my Cameo 4 last month and still learning some tricks (I got a lot from this video). 🧠 Thank you for this!!
Dude. Thank you for this video. My cameo 4 cuts images on the top half of the mat just fine but anything on the bottom half & it gets misaligned on the cut with the registration mark method. I've tried calibration, tool cartridge calibration, packet adjustment, installing a legacy version etc and it's been making me CRAZY! I never thought to add in an offset/bleed area to the intricate stickers I'm trying to cut. This is an amazing work around! Thank you, thank you!
You're welcome. I'm glad to hear that it was able to get you around your struggles. I'd been seeing similar complaints, to yours, and mentioned that I cut without registration marks. I must have received over 100 messages basically begging me to make a video. Lol It's nice hearing that it is helping people have more success with their machines and projects.
Thank you so much. That is a huge compliment. I don't feel like my videos are to that point yet, but I have a lot of knowledge and am happy to share it with others. I'm glad that you enjoyed it, I appreciate the compliment, and wish you the best as well.
Ugh... that sounds like a string of frustration. 😔 They're great tools, so I'm happy to hear that this is making a better experience, for you. You're welcome, and thank you for watching.
OMG. Such great info. I am considering a Cameo 4 and wondered what is involved. I can do easy stuff or great, detailed projects like yours. Thanks so much. 😀
Good vid, Richard! I've never had much of an issue with the reg marks. But I think I'll try this and see if I can utilize more of the sticker paper, because, in some instances, it would stop me from having to use 2 sheets vs. only one.
That was the main reason that I figured out this method. I was constantly trying projects that were too big for the registration marks, and hated wasting so much material. When I also saw many complain of registration troubles, it made me want to avoid them even more. Even if you don't use this method often, hopefully it helps with your larger projects.
i will try this mate, my Silhouette drive me crazy i did everything like try different version of Silhouette Studio, also did calibration thing but it's always miss cut all the time on lower side of the stickers DANG!!! thank you for this tutorial
You're welcome. There is slight differences between machines. Once you figure out where your sheet needs to be, on the mat, it should avoid a lot of the issues. (Some machines want it to completely cover the lines on your mat, some want it right on the lines, and some just inside of the lines. So a test to see where yours wants to be and you should be looking good)
Perfect! Glad to hear that it was helpful and a nice pace for you to learn. I was a teacher, in Asia, for years. I'm trying to combine what I learned from teaching to make videos that are as helpful and clear as possible.
I appreciate it, and am glad that it's appreciated. If you have any topics that need explanation, I'm trying to cater videos to people's requests and struggles. If there's something that you would like me to show, let me know. I'm hoping to make the next video, in a few days, and am debating a few different topics for the next one.
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you one trillion times. This is one of THE MOST informative videos ever I love it glad it didn't have to watch to many videos cause that calibrating video was to much... This video definitely helped me a bunch Even with adjusting the color for printing. I love you for this video I can't thank you enough I was having a hard time with trying to figure it out it was barely off so I'm not complaining cause this was great explaining. 💛🧡💛🧡💛🧡💛🧡
Great tutorial - loved it! Your personality is good for teaching this, too. I learned a lot even though I know my Cameo software pretty well. I look forward to seeing more as good Silhouette software tutorials are harder to find than cricut. Do you see that there is a very big advantage to having a newer version of the Cameo machine? I only have a Cameo 2 and I do ok with it.
Thank you. I appreciate the compliment, and am glad to hear that you're learning new things. I completely agree with the lack of good tutorials. There are a few channels, that have good content, but most seem to be pretty clunky and fairly hard to follow. I've had many people tell me that they get lost following other people's videos. I was hesitant to start making videos, but am glad to hear that people seem to be benefitting from them. There are some added advantages to the newer machines, but seem to be mostly for convenience. Such as the vinyl roll holder, and the built in cutter. If you're doing a fair amount of vinyl, from rolls, those might be convenient. Otherwise, if your machine is working well, and you don't "need" the added conveniences, you should be good with what you have.
Just found this tutorial in 2024. Can you tell me what brand sticker paper, the type of lamination paper, and laminator you are using? Also, can I buy one of your 3D printer guides? GENIUS! Thanks Great tutorial
In this tutorial, I used HTVRont sticker paper and Avery laminate. I don't recommend either, now that I've done extensive testing. I use industrial products now, meant for vehicle wraps.
Hi 541 Richard, I am using Old Fox mats for the Cameo 4, they're very close and as close as you can get to the original Silhouette mats but they're cheaper. I have been using these for a short while but get decent results. I have been following your tutorial for cutting without registrations marks and find it more reliable than with the marks.
@Tea Carb mine was off a little bit. That's why I made a part 2, which shows my method to find where to place my sheet on my mat. Mine was off, very little, but enough that I wanted better. There is a calibration, for the machine as well. It seems to be for registration marks, but couldn't hurt to try, as well.
Thank you. I really appreciate the compliment. I have a follow-up, to this video, coming soon. It's to help get better results, for people woth lesser accurate machines. I'd planned it, for today, but life had other plans. Thanks again for the watch, the compliment, and the subscribe. I also didn't realize that we're closing in on 1,000 subscribers.
Thank you so much for making this video. I’ve just got a cameo 4 and it keeps cutting in the wrong place with registration marks. I’ve since read glossy sticker paper can sometimes do this. It cuts perfectly on plain paper so I’m sure it’s the glossy. I’ll try without marks tomorrow.
You're welcome. I hope that it helps your situation. If you're using the registration marks, and aren't against them, I have heard that putting matte scotch tape over the registration marks makes them easier to read. I don't have firsthand experience, as I've never used the registration marks, but have seen that come up multiple times in my groups.
@@Richard97402 well it cut in almost the right place. Perhaps 1-2mm off on the X and Y but the kids didn’t mind the free stickers. I’ll get it right soon. Cheers
I hope that my method is able to help you get around the issue, then. I've actually never used the registration marks. I'd heard many complaints about struggles, and I hated how much material waste there was. This was my solution to the problem.
Now I wish I had a new machine, LOL Im trying to find out how to cut (not necessarily stickers) stuff to put into my Junk Journals but I have an old Silhouette SD and I can not find out how to make the registration marks right or how to skip them. But I liked your video and did subscribe to your channel. Thank you for a nice tutorial.
Thank you so much. I appreciate the subscribe, and the positive feedback. I wish that I knew more, to help you with your machine. The Cameo 4 is the first vinyl cutter that I have ever had. I'd wanted a cutter for many years, but finally made a purchase on my current machine.
So glad that I found your You Tube Channel! I have a problem I hope you can help me with.....I have an Epson WF 7210: doing inkjet transfers on Jetpro SS. Last night, everything was working fine. This morning, my registration marks aren't showing up very good...almost looks like they are supposed to be filled with a color. I'm creating designs in Silhouette Studio, Designer edition, version 4.1.442. Can't figure out what I need to correct.....everything prints out perfectly, EXCEPT the registration marks! And yes, I have plenty black ink in the printer. Black thinks in the design print out fine. Hope you can help me!
Unfortunately I don't know. I never use registration marks, so don't know how to troubleshoot them. I use the method, in this video which doesn't use them. From what I've seen, most commonly in the groups, if page sizes don't match everywhere, it can cause printing issues. Other than that I'm not sure.
Awesome video thanks for sharing. I got myself a silhouette as well because I’ve heard so many good things about it, except I got the silhouette portrait 3. Do you know if this process works on my version as well?
Thank you. I know a lot about the Cameos and a decent amount about the Curio. I don't know much about the Portrait unfortunately. Realistically it should work very similarly though. Using the same software and overall concept, where it is sending what is on your screen to your machine, the location that it is placed in the software is ideally where it comes out in reality. There are slight inconsistencies in the cutting accuracy of these inexpensive cutters, so they won't be perfect, but I get pretty good results pretty consistently. I have a follow-up video to this one, where I show how to get more accurate cuts, if your machine isn't as accurate. You can always try the registration marks, and compare the two as well. The registration marks seem to work well, for some people, but I know that they are a nightmare for a lot of people as well.
Can you give us a little info about your eco tank printer ? I am looking for one that I don't have to replace the cartridges so often. Enjoyed the video and learned some new techniques. I just bought a Cameo 4 because my original cameo WOULD NOT read registration marks.... ever ! This would have saved me some money ! ! !
Do you have something specific that you are wanting to know? It is the ET-3760 that I have, in the video. It's a fairly basic printer/scanner, with the benefit of the ink tanks.
So happy to find this video! Learned so much! Just recently bought a cutter and hated how much paper I was not able to use because of registration marks. And also kept getting "Registration Failed". Being a newbie, this may be a dumb question, but is there a reason you don't use the Print Bleed option rather than putting the offset color around the dog and penquin to help with misaligned cutting? I guess it doesn't come out as nice? Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience!
When I came up with this method the bleed option, as I understood was pretty buggy and unreliable. I have heard that more recent updates have made it better, but since this technique has worked for me, I haven't bothered changing things. It's the old "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" approach. =D If bleed works now, and is a good option for you, then absolutely go that route. Hypothetically it should do the same thing, that I am manually doing. Thank you for watching, glad that it helped you, and good question.
@@Richard97402 Thanks for your reply! I think your way is better. When I printed with the bleed it is very fuzzy and not solid color like yours. So the edge won't be as crisp if it cuts offmark a little. I'm rewatching the video. My cuts were way off. I was careful when I placed the printout on the mat, but the cut is about 1/4" off!
@@joanofartcreationsmore8434 I have a follow up video, which should help with that. I've got it roughly half recorded, so hoping to have it done in the next day or two. Some machines aren't as accurate as mine, so I have a sort of "calibration" that should make people who's machine are missing the cut, be more predictable.
@@Richard97402 I'm sorry--my bad! I think I accidentally lined up the printout looking at the mat lines when the mat was upside down! I did that the other day but caught myself. That's what happens when you stay up past midnight I guess! I think it's off a little, but I'm at least on the printed part! So happy you also said not to remove the printout until you check if it cut right. I have had to redo more than once and try to line things up the same as before. You've been a great help! Thanks!
You're welcome. Thanks for watching, and I hope that it helps with the wasted vinyl issue. The machines are slightly different, so I've been told that it takes a test or two, to determine exactly where your sheet should sit on your mat. So maybe do a couple of tests on cheap paper, to get it dialed in, and then I've never had any real issues skipping the registration marks.
I’m going to try this. I’ve been so upset at registration marks because my machine reads one page and does great, then on the next page it’ll try to search Everywhere for the registration marks without seeing them. I’ll have to stop the machine and reboot the whole computer to cut one more page. Then it does it again. I can’t stand my machine.
Sad. Hopefully this works for you, and leads to less frustration. Since making this video, I do some projects with registration marks, and some without. This still works well for me, but pros and cons depending on the job, the time restraints, etc. Plus anything being cut on my other machines can't benefit from this technique. Have you tried doing manual registration on your Silhouette? You can move the machine yourself, and "show" the Cameo where the registration marks are. That's come in handy, for me, a couple of times.
@@Richard97402 I’ve had lot of trouble trying to do manual registration and I think it’s not because I don’t fully understand the directions or get it to print the way they show the page, and I can’t see very well at that distance to be sure it’s aligned. So I’m really hoping this will work.
That's funny! Good catch. I was playing with a bunch of different styles. 4-speed, 5-speed, 6-speed, Reverse on the left, Reverse on the right, etc. I am not sure how this one came to be. LOL Luckily it was just a test, and not for a customer, because I would be even more embarrassed. =P
I had to go make sure that I wasn't crazy. I made 9 of them, in total, with different gearing and sayings. The other 8 were correct, so I just had to correct the one. Thanks for the keen eye, so that I could fix my oversight.
Love you video. This will help me alot. I use regular sticker paper that already Water resistant so I don't laminate. What cut setting would you recommend using for just the sticker paper?
My sticker paper is water proof. The problem is that the ink isn't waterproof and fades when around UV light. If you're using laser or ecosolvents, then it isn't a problem. Otherwise best to laminate if they will go outside or even near natural light. You would need to do some test cuts, if you wanted to just cut the sticker paper without lamination. I've never done it, because I knew that I wanted the UV and water protection, plus each sticker paper is going to be different. Since I cut mine at a blade depth of 6, I'd probably start at 3 or 4, without lamination, and make adjustments as needed. I'm glad that the video was helpful. If you choose to go without lamination, I'd be curious to hear what settings end up working for you.
@@Richard97402 I appreciate it. Thank you. I mainly use my sticker paper to decorate containers in combination with permanent vinyl. And to decorate plastic cups/party bags for party which is a one time use so it never really stand in sun at all.
@@lilkimcreations that makes sense to me. If they're one time use, it could be with it too save the time and money of laminating. The sheets aren't super expensive, but supplies and time definitely add up. Thanks for the clarification. I like learning what people make and how they go about it. 🤝
Thank you for the Great video, I am very new to Camio, I am doing print and cut and my cuts are off by around 2 to 2.5mm, re calibrating did not help, do you have any suggestions that I can try. Thank you
I've honestly never done the calibration, because I don't use registration marks. The way that I showed, in the video, is the only way that I've ever done print and cut. My first page was just a touch too far right, so now I put the sheet on the line, instead of inside the lines (like I showed in the video) and have never had anymore issues.
Thank yo for your video. I don't understand one thing. You laminated the stickers. You covered the adhesive on the back. How are they going to stick it?
@samsong8106 I didn't cover anything on the back. It's just the sticker backing, that is on the back of the print. I just peeled them, and stuck them, like any other traditional sticker.
I've never done the calibration, no. I just put my material in the top corner of the mat, exactly how it is displayed in Silhouette Studio. My understanding is that the calibration is for print and cut, using registration marks. Since registration marks aren't being used, and it isn't reading anything, I didn't see a need to do the calibration.
@@Richard97402 so i tried it your way step by step. The cut was only off by a little bit. But it also didnt cut all the way through the sticker paper. Do i need to adjust the blade or anything manually before i give it another go? Thanks in advance
@@arielwasxxx Yes, you definitely need the proper cut settings for the materials that you are using. Even if we're using the exact same products, there are differences in machines, as well as things like how sharp/new each of our blades are. You'll want to find what works for your materials. I've gotten feedback, that the machines seem to be one of two ways. Either place the paper just inside the borders of the mat, or put the paper on the lines just enough to cover them. If you're only off a tiny bit, it might be that. I've found my cut is quite accurate if I put it right on the lines, but have had a few people tell me there's works great when they are upto the line, but not covering it. There are tolerances to these machines, so they're never perfect, but we can get them quite close.
I have, and have used, holographic laminate. What I show, in the video, is exactly the same for holographic. The machine isn't reading or looking for anything, so being shiny, matte, holographic, chrome, etc, doesn't matter because it is just cutting based on where things are in the software.
Amazing video thanks for sharing! Can I ask you what blade did you use? Am I wrong or you’re using an auto blade? If so is it able to cut such a thick material? Thank you!
You're welcome, and thanks for the compliment. Yes, you are correct, in that I am using the Autoblade. I bought 2 backup Autoblades, but the one that came with my machine is still doing great, so have never swapped it out.
@@Richard97402 thank your for the prompt reply! I’am having so many issues with the cameo 4. I was very happy with my 3 before broke down. I’am using a premium blade on this Cameo 4 with Force at 33, speed 4 and 2 passes and still doesn’t cut all the way through! And I use your same laminated sheets. By the way I’am shocked to see that is possible to cut without the registration marks! It’s insane! So why do the registration marks exist if is possible to cut without? I don’t get it. Again you’re Amazing! This tutorial deserve 10 stars! THANK YOU you the man! 🙏🏼
@@ohcrazydiamond I understand the point of the registration marks, being that they are supposed to help make sure your cuts are correct, even if your document isn't perfectly placed. They seem to cause people more trouble though, plus I didn't like the amount of waste, so I never actually used the marks. If your page is a little crooked, in theory, reading the registration marks would still get a proper cut, while with what I do, you definitely need to really line up the page correctly. I'd rather take a few extra seconds and avoid them, and that is how I got to this technique. 😊
hi there Richard... great video using a cameo 4 pro for the first time and trying stickers via print and cut... following your video ... the cameo is printing completely off and nowhere near the cutlines on image/stickers. Not sure what im doing wrong?
Without seeing it, I can't say for sure. Each machine has tolerances, and therefore slight differences, from one machine to the next. It should never be "completely off" as you've mentioned, though. I have heard that the Cameo has a ± 1/16" tolerance, so it could potentially be off upto 1/8". Anything more than that, and it sounds like something is wrong. Whether it is how the media is being loaded, the carriage being someone different than it thinks it is, or other potential issues. I'm planning a video, to help dial in this technique, to accommodate for the differences in machines. I've just been slammed this week, so it is a bit slower than I would like. I hope that it is something easy, and is resolved quickly. If not, I hope to get the follow-up video up soon, to help get a more accurate cut.
man, your video has been the most informed and easier to follow than most of those other videos who have no idea what theyre actually doing with settings and computers. I was about to return my cameo lol. Do you ever have issues with certain glossy sticker labels that leave behind a sandy, uneven surface with glue residue? maybe its down to the material im using which is zicotto paper? zicotto is a good waterproof paper, except it leaves residue, where other labels are great, smooth cuts with no residue but not waterproof and more thin of materials
Thank you. That was the main reason that I started creating these videos. I had MANY people complain that the videos that they were finding, often skipped steps, and assumed that you already knew part of the process. I wanted to make sure that nobody was left behind. As far as the sandy glue residue, that doesn't sound familiar. I used Zicotto for a short time. It was very hit-and-miss, in my experience. I didn't like that each sheet seemed to be a gamble, so I ultimately stopped using them. When I got a sheet that worked well, I did like the results, but didn't like the (I'm guessing) 35% failure rate.
@@Richard97402 appreciate your videos man! do you make stickers full time? I am in the process of learning printing since i love tech and designing. I've learned alot about different inks lately but need more about different papers and materials to use. Its a slow process now but I hope I can get my hands on a large wide format printer
@@dandee28 I'm getting to that point. My full-time "real" job is an automotive painter. I am about 98% done building my new shop, which is for my stickers, decals, laser engraving, etc. A handful of people have asked me about the progress of the shop, so my plan for the next video is to show off the new space. I secured my names, business bank accounts, website, Etsy, etc. Now it is just a matter of actually getting it all updated and going. Everything so far has been word of mouth.... but just April, so far, has been about $1,100 in business. Between the painting job, and building this shop, it has basically eaten up all of my free time, and feel bad about a lack of video content, as a result. I want to make more videos, (and plan to) and know that there are people who are looking forward to more from me. I have a dye-based standard (8.5x11/A4 printer) as well as a large format pigment printer. Solvent printers are basically the standard for professional printing, but not in my budget currently.... especially after building this shop. Lol
@@Richard97402 budddy thats crazy... im actually full time automotive painter as well LOL. my side gig is window tint, ppf, wraps. But now I've started to love designing and getting back into printers and just looking at large format printers. I am trying to learn as much as i can about diff types of inks, online course for adobe products. literally have no personal time at all. I know how it is man, at the same time I love these things and if the money comes, then itll work out. I paint with sikkens and hate it. I just bought an eco tank, and two cameos but i dont think thatll be sufficient because I want to print on wraps too. Your progress is good man. I have been scared to do the business license for that, and a domain name
@dan Very cool. I painted with Sikkens and Diamont, before. I am painting with Ed Hubbs now, and we're using Axalta/DuPont. I just started doing larger format printing. My first project was actually a sign for Ed Hubbs' shop. I'm excited to keep pushing forward.
I listened closely and need to try cutting without registration marks since my Cameo 3 and Design Studio decided to --*not*-- register and cut flawlessly on HP Photo Paper (80lb glossy) after not using the machine for a year. I think its mad at me.
If it has been a long time and the accuracy is off, it could be worth calibrating the machine as well. Mine is calibrated pretty nicely, and works well, with or without registration marks.
Great video!! I appreciate it!! THKS. Your workspace is like mine. We always need a bigger area, isn’t it. I have a question: Do you need all these glasses for something or you must drink water so much? 😜😹
I can't say that it is all printers... At least with both of mine, there is a print boundary that puts the edge of the print area just inside of the page. (I believe it is about 1/8" all of the way around) If you check/tick the box to display the print border, it will show it on screen. If you cut on a mat, then you can use the entire media. If you are cutting without a mat, than the cuttable area is smaller, which again, can be shown by displaying the cut borders. I hope that answers your question. If not, or I misunderstood, please let me know, and I will try to be more helpful.
Thanks for your comment. I haven't played around, much, with different sticker papers. I purchased a pack from HTVront, on Amazon. They have been working well for me, so have stuck with them so far. I purchase them in packs of 40 sheets, and they are usually between 12 and 13 dollars for the pack.
Hi Richard, I just came across this video and I’m a new subscriber. I have a Cameo Plus and did everything in the video and for some reason, the cut is way off. 😖 What do you think might be the issue?
Oh, no. I've heard that some people's machines aren't cutting in the same place. (As far as where zero is on X, and where zero is on Y) If you're lining things up nicely, on the origin lines of your mat, but your machine isn't seeing that as the start point, then the cut wouldn't be great. I cut tape, to find where my origin was, which was right on the lines of my mat, so just lining it up there, has been great. I could make a follow up video, showing the tape trick that I used, for finding where your edges should be.
Im watching this a year later, and love the demo. I hope you eventually corrected the gear shift sticker to 1 3 5 on top and 2 4 6 on bottom before you gave too many out! 😊
I didn't give out any, and caught it pretty quickly. I made a bunch of designs. 4-speed, 5-speed, 6-speed, different colors, etc. Surprisingly only this one was incorrect. Still not sure how I managed to mess up the one, but no problem. Lol
@Richard97402 lol! I noticed it bc it's something I would do. My first cameo will be here Thursday, so I'm watching various videos. Yours was recommended and I really enjoyed it.
@trainscarsandsons Happy to hear it. I recently got my new shop set up, and would like to start making videos again. If there is information that I can help with, let me know, and it could possibly be the next video.
Hey man love video I'm totally over registration marks in silhouette, quick question I have laminator that does not have hot and cold option just heat is it ok to use laminate sheets that have adhesive in laminator with heat
Glad that you enjoyed the video. As far as lamination is concerned, if you can get a good bond between the sticker and the laminate, I don't see a reason that heat should be an issue. Heated lamination is usually for lamination sleeves, which would put laminate over the back of the sticker though. I just switched away from the Avery laminate, that I used in this video, but apply the new product the exact same way. The Avery product didn't do well with UV rays, which basically defeated the entire point of using it. Adhesive laminate (at least the ones that I have used) don't require a machine at all. You can just apply the adhesive. I just like the extra piece of mind that the machine pushed it down.
@@christiansiddons2121 I love the Vvivid brand, and use them for when I do vinyl wraps on cars. They offer laminate in rolls, that I am trying. I've only made 2 sheets of stickers, with it, so far. That being said, the colors have more "depth" to them, and the laminate feels much higher quality. It is a little harder to apply. I cut a piece, the size of my sticker sheet, from the roll. Then I basically apply it how I did in the video. So an extra cut from the roll, and no little tab like the Avery to help peel the backing paper, but otherwise a similar process and feels much higher quality. I'm still doing testing, with it, for longer term durability, but happy so far. This is the Amazon listing that I purchased from. a.co/d/gCIIAfU
Great video! I’ve been using Silhouette for a couple of years and I’ve learned a couple of things from this video. Just from memory, I thought it wouldn’t allow you to cut without the registration marks on it giving you an error message??? Secondly I like that roll of laminate idea, but don’t you think you’d have a lot of waste in the long run because of the size being 12”?
Other than making sure that your page size is the same, everywhere... unfortunately I'm not sure what to suggest, as I've never used registration marks, and therefore have never needed to troubleshoot them.
If things are working correctly, yes. If you are using a Silhouette compatible mat, it should know where the 0:0 point is, in the top left corner. Doing the tape trick, in my part 2 video, will verify where your machine sees that 0:0 starting point. It should be pretty consistent though.
@@Richard97402 thanks for your reply! Yes saw your other video as well, genuis trick! Because it will 0,0 for all jobs and not for the current one only. But regarding the Mat, I assume the machine will not scan the top left corner, it is more a mechanical reference and the mat must be fed always in the same manner?
@@EVO_Engineering I'm assuming that you're correct. That it likely turns the wheels a certain amount, which would pull the mat a specific distance. Loading the mat consistently is what will finalize the position. I push my mat against the rightmost notch on the front of the machine, next to the gray arrows. It helps with placement, as well as more accuracy with square-ness.
The Cameo 4 is my first and only cutter, so far, so I can't say for sure. Realistically, if your document size and mat size match, in the software and in reality, I don't know why it couldn't. It should just be a matter of getting the media in the right location (like the top left of my mat, in the video) and should be good to go from there. If you try it, I'd be curious to know if it works out.
OK. I tried it the first time, and it was off by at least a half inch, but then I readjusted it and it worked perfect. Thanks for giving us all an out of the registration problem. Also on the Cameo portrait you have to place your mat on the second set of lines not the first. Again thanks.
@@jamesgaskill11 sorry to hear about the wasted one, on the first attempt, but glad to hear that you were able to make a quick adjustment, and get it perfect. Thanks for the update, and really glad to hear that it worked for you as well.
I'm not sure. It is not intended that way, but you may have luck. I only use cold press lamination. I have switched to Vvivid lamination, since this video, but same process.
It's part of every version. It was introduced later, so most likely your version is just too old and need an update. It looks like version 4.4.81, from what I can find, is when it was included.
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WHAT!!! You can cut without registration marks! Man! Thanks for this. I have been using my Cameo 4 for almost a year now and I had no idea that you can print and cut without registrations marks. Thanks a million!
You're welcome, and glad that this is exciting information.
I had only done print and cut work, without registration marks, until about a week ago.
I had a small project, that was time sensitive, so only needed about half of the sheet. Since I had the extra room, I decided to try registration marks. Ironically, it cut worse than my non-registration marked projects, and I had to trim all of the project woth scissors. I have no plan to use registration marks again. Lol
I've done a trace then print...but my cameo plus is not printing accurately for fonts 😢
How do you get the Cameo to load paper without registration marks? I keep getting a error message.
@@daygorock5494ever figure this out?
You're a literal godsend. I've been having so many issues attempting to laminate with stupid registration marks. I've ruined several otherwise great stickers and lost a lot of materials. Thank you so much for your tutorial!
I have just discovered your channel, the idea of using the laminator to apply the top laminating sheet is pure genius!
Okay so this has to have been the most thorough tutorials I've watched on how to "print and cut" without guide lines and I e had my Cameos for going on five years.😳
Thank you for your time on this. I now have a new technique under my brain belt.
You're welcome. It was a lot of info and time, but I had many requests for the info, so I was happy to make it. My reason for making these videos was to be thorough, because too many people told me how they felt lost after following other tutorials. So you're exactly right on that.
Thanks for watching.
Best step by step sticker tutorial I have seen. Thank you for sharing! I was getting terrible cut quality with my Cameo and this solved it.
Awesome! Happy that this solved your struggles. When they do what we expect of them, these little Cameos are impressive machines.
Thank you for the compliment, and you're welcome.
Thanks for this!I was about to cut with a huge registration mark on every corner and this allowed me to use so much more of my paper! It was also my first cut on a silhouette machine ever!😉
Fantastic! Glad that it was able to help. I completely agree. My main reason for figuring out how to cut without registration marks was due to the loss of so much material. Now I can make bigger designs, which are especially helpful with shirts, and I waste so much less material, than I would, otherwise. Thanks for watching.
This was so thorough and very helpful! I’m new to the cameo world and have been watching lots of tutorials. I feel less anxious about trying stuff out
Fantastic. I'm happy to hear that it was beneficial to you. It is definitely a little overwhelming, when first starting out. If you make an effort, like you're doing, that overwhelming feeling goes away pretty quickly
Well done and thanks for help. Being able to cut from the entire page without registration marks helpful. My Cameo 4 is not picking up registration marks and your tutorial just what was needed.
Perfect! Glad that I was able to help.
I've actually never tried printing the registration marks... I didn't like the idea of throwing away so much usable material, so I came up with this solution instead.
I have had that issue too with not registering the marks, not matter what I tried, it's getting frustrating as I have only had my machine 1 week since purchase
Thank you! Very generous of you to share your workflow. So much more real estate on the sheet without registration marks
I needed this. so thorough. I had trouble lining up the mat so thank you for talking about the right side as well as the left side. this will be so much easier and quicker than using registration marks as I have a dark room and blue tooth to the cutter so sometimes it won't read registration marks. Once again thank you so so much
You're welcome. Glad that there was beneficial info for you.
I've heard mixed results and consistency over Bluetooth. I haven't tried my Cameo over Bluetooth, but my printer was having lots of strange issues. Once I went to a wired connection, all of the issues went away. If Bluetooth works for you, that's great. I've heard that upgrading the Bluetooth "dongle" can make a big difference, if you do encounter any issues.
Thanks for this video! I just ordered my Silhouette Portrait 3 yesterday, my first one! I just noticed this video was posted yesterday lol kudos and thanks!
I've had many people request I make videos, so you are correct... I've just recently started making these videos.
You're welcome, and I hope that it makes using your new machine a better experience.
I just clicked on this video. Thanks for such a great tutorial on doing print & cut. You really explained the process in such detail & made it very easy to understand..Thanks for all of the tips
You're welcome. Also, thank you for the kind words. If you happen to try the technique, and it isn't as accurate as it should/could be..... my most recent video is a follow-up to this one, which shows how to make a guide for more accurate cuts.
Thanks for watching.
I just bought the Cameo 4 yesterday and you've been such a huge help!! I'm so grateful thank you :)
I'm happy to hear it. It's a great machine, once you get over the nervousness and learning curve. Glad that I could help.
@@Richard97402 I need help. On minute 28-29, when you select each line to disable the cut, my 2 lines (internal offset & edge) would always go together either no cut or cut. When I click cut edge, only the outside line will appear red. I rewatched that part many times but I couldn't do it :(
@@Richard97402 Also I placed the paper and matt just like video and they don't align with the cut line
Edit: I made it worked but I had to place the matt about 1mm over the gray line.
@@Stellaaa1989 the most likely case is that you have them grouped. If they're grouped the software treats them like one item, so they would both be cut, or not cut, depending on what you click.
If you ungroup them, and then click each individually, it should allow you to choose which cuts and which doesn't.
Thank you for the video! By the way on ecotank printers you can turn up the dry time of you so wish to in your printers settings. If you ever work with thinner papers that curl up when you print dark photos on them, turning up the dry time solves that in my experience. Thought I'd throw that out there. I'm a big fan of the eco tank printers, saves me so much money on ink
Hi, how do you turn up the dry time?
Loved this video so much!! Thank you and could listen to your voice all day - it’s really calming ☺️
You're welcome. Glad that it was enjoyable.
This is brilliant.. I think I’ll get more accurate cuts with this. I’ve gotten some funky cuts with the registration marks because lighting or random things would throw off the machine scanning. Definitely giving this a try. Thank you for sharing your knowledge
You're welcome. Follow-up video, hopefully within the next 48 hours, to help dial in the cut, if your machine isn't as accurate as mine. Glad that I could help, and keep an eye out for the next one, if yours isn't cutting quite right.
Great thank you, look forward to more of your videos
You're welcome. Thank you, as well.
I've got a few more videos planned, just buried in work recently, so they're slower than I'd like them to be. Hopefully I can get another one uploaded in the next couple of days.
Thank you. My C4 has only P&C accurately 3 times in 3 yrs. So figured out this work around a while back but I still learned A LOT from your video. Thank you so much. 🙏🏻
Happy to hear it. I've started using the built-in print and cut feature, when my designs are small enough to fit within the registration marks. It adds extra confidence in the cut. For bigger pieces though, I still use this technique.
541 Richard, you are a phenomenal instructor! Thank you for taking the time to create this video and sharing your expertise. I appreciate your no nonsense approach to telling us what we need to know and loved seeing your "happy place" work area! I am waiting for delivery of my Cameo 4 but will continue to watch more of your tutorials. I have a Brother Scan n Cut machine but am excited to learn and use the Silhouette design features with the Cameo! I do plan to purchase the BusEd software.
Thank you for the kind words, and glad that you're excited. I am very happy with the business edition of the software. There are things that get asked, constantly, where I say "with the business edition you......" it can do a lot, and the extra features are very handy for some of my projects.
I've been incredibly busy, recently, but hope to get back to making videos again, soon. If you come up with any questions, before I get a chance to answer them, feel free to post them as a comment, and I could put them in a future video. Thanks for watching.
@@Richard97402 thank you again, and all the best with your ventures...you are a special person!
This was an amazing tutorial. Lately I have been having issues with registration marks so I am definitely going to try this. I really like how you fed the sticker paper with laminate in the laminator that way. I have never tried that before but I will. One thing I do is run it through the laminator the long way (portrait mode) and then run it through again length wise (landscape mode).
Thank you for the compliment, and glad that you liked it.
Great video Richard. Much appreciated
I thanks you 100000 times! I just found your channel and subscribed...I wish I could click like 1 million times. I am going to try this with my cut images asap. I have wasted so much time and material on tracing and registration mark issues with my cameo 4 plus and bought a cricut...was about to learn how to use it today until I saw tour video...I was giving up on cameo...I am hoping this helps me...I will watch your steps and follow/pause to do exactly what you did in my design!!! You made my whole life better 😆
Hopefully this can make your experience better. I definitely wouldn't recommend moving to Cricut. This software is a little harder to learn, but that's because it can do so much more than what Cricut allows.
I'm glad that you appreciate the info, and hope that I can make some new videos soon. I finally got my new shop space built, and 99% done, so have the space to start filming again.
Phew, that was a long watch! You taught me a few things and your enthusiasm is pretty charming :) I was having trouble understanding how my machine expects me to load the mat and material, seeing where you have your guide and the rollers gave me a clue for my next attempt. Learning is so tedious sometimes - I'm wasting a lot!
Thanks for the video
Thanks for the watch and the compliments. I am definitely excited by these crafts, Silhouette, and helping in general. I am actually in the process of building a new shop, for my office. I have been slow on videos, because I am building all of this. Made the structure, insulated, and about 90% done with the drywall/sheet rock. I'm excited to be able to do more videos and continue helping. Also maybe a video to show off the new space, when I get to that point. 🥳
I'm glad that you were able to learn some new things and benefit from the video.
@@Richard97402 oh stop, you’re making the menfolk in my life seem useless :p
That sounds very exciting for you. Do you have advice on the print for your guard/guide? I think it’s a great idea.
I made a bunch more progress on my project (paper cut/layered card) since watching your video :)
Really helpful vid! Thanks a lot!
You're welcome. Glad that it helps.
Thank you for the video. Very detailed and explained well. I learned a lot.
For the thin white lines on the penguin, I would just retouch them with the Silhouette drafting pens.
This was pretty early on in my use of this technique. I trimmed what I didn't like, in the moment. Moving forward I've just done a slightly larger bleed area to cover any inaccuracies in the cuts.
@@Richard97402, Agree, that’s a better solution. Thanks for sharing your learning experience.
Watching this in 2024! This is very helpful. I just got my Cameo 4 last month and still learning some tricks (I got a lot from this video). 🧠 Thank you for this!!
You're welcome. Happy to hear that I could provide some helpful info.
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Dude. Thank you for this video. My cameo 4 cuts images on the top half of the mat just fine but anything on the bottom half & it gets misaligned on the cut with the registration mark method. I've tried calibration, tool cartridge calibration, packet adjustment, installing a legacy version etc and it's been making me CRAZY! I never thought to add in an offset/bleed area to the intricate stickers I'm trying to cut. This is an amazing work around! Thank you, thank you!
You're welcome. I'm glad to hear that it was able to get you around your struggles. I'd been seeing similar complaints, to yours, and mentioned that I cut without registration marks. I must have received over 100 messages basically begging me to make a video. Lol
It's nice hearing that it is helping people have more success with their machines and projects.
This is the best Cameo tutorial I’ve seen! 🎉🎉🎉 I hope u all the best in life!!!!
Thank you so much. That is a huge compliment. I don't feel like my videos are to that point yet, but I have a lot of knowledge and am happy to share it with others. I'm glad that you enjoyed it, I appreciate the compliment, and wish you the best as well.
You just saved my silhouette cameo 4 from going in the trash. Thank you sir 🙏
Ugh... that sounds like a string of frustration. 😔
They're great tools, so I'm happy to hear that this is making a better experience, for you.
You're welcome, and thank you for watching.
thank you!!!!
You're welcome. 😊
OMG. Such great info. I am considering a Cameo 4 and wondered what is involved. I can do easy stuff or great, detailed projects like yours. Thanks so much. 😀
You're welcome. Glad that you find the info helpful.
Thanks for watching.
Thank you for this tutorial! It was very helpful.
You are very welcome. Glad that it could help you.
Oh wowww this is GENIUS 🤩🤩 and u can fully use the whole sheet too! Thank you so much for sharing!
You're welcome.
Using more of the page is exactly why I started experimenting, in the first place. 😊
Good vid, Richard! I've never had much of an issue with the reg marks. But I think I'll try this and see if I can utilize more of the sticker paper, because, in some instances, it would stop me from having to use 2 sheets vs. only one.
That was the main reason that I figured out this method. I was constantly trying projects that were too big for the registration marks, and hated wasting so much material. When I also saw many complain of registration troubles, it made me want to avoid them even more. Even if you don't use this method often, hopefully it helps with your larger projects.
Awesome video. Thanx so much for this.
Thank you for the compliment, and you're welcome. 🤝
i will try this mate, my Silhouette drive me crazy
i did everything like try different version of Silhouette Studio, also did calibration thing
but it's always miss cut all the time on lower side of the stickers DANG!!!
thank you for this tutorial
You're welcome. There is slight differences between machines. Once you figure out where your sheet needs to be, on the mat, it should avoid a lot of the issues. (Some machines want it to completely cover the lines on your mat, some want it right on the lines, and some just inside of the lines. So a test to see where yours wants to be and you should be looking good)
Thank you so much!
Thank you for this video! You took the right amout of time to teach and show how to do this ! I just got my silhoutte portrait and am learning!
Perfect! Glad to hear that it was helpful and a nice pace for you to learn. I was a teacher, in Asia, for years. I'm trying to combine what I learned from teaching to make videos that are as helpful and clear as possible.
Thank u Richard u da best 💞💞
You're welcome. Glad to hear that it's appreciated.
Great video! Thank you!
You're welcome. Glad that you liked it.
Great video!! Very easy to follow! Can't wait to see many more! Will highly recommend your videos to friends!
I appreciate it, and am glad that it's appreciated. If you have any topics that need explanation, I'm trying to cater videos to people's requests and struggles. If there's something that you would like me to show, let me know. I'm hoping to make the next video, in a few days, and am debating a few different topics for the next one.
Very thorough, great tutorial. Thank You! Subscribing and shared.
Thank you for the compliment, and support.
This is an AMAZING video! This newbie thanks you very much!
Thank you. I'm glad that it is appreciated, and am thankful for the compliment.
I’m very thankful for discovering this video as it has taught me so many things on both software and cameo usage! THANKS!!
You're welcome. Glad that I was able to help.
I've lost so much page because of registration marks! Thank you so much! 😭. I can make bigger prints now!!
@@xuniqueeditsxamvs7351 You're welcome. Happy to hear that it is helping you.
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you one trillion times. This is one of THE MOST informative videos ever I love it glad it didn't have to watch to many videos cause that calibrating video was to much... This video definitely helped me a bunch Even with adjusting the color for printing. I love you for this video I can't thank you enough I was having a hard time with trying to figure it out it was barely off so I'm not complaining cause this was great explaining. 💛🧡💛🧡💛🧡💛🧡
You're welcome. Happy to hear that it was very helpful to you.
What an excellent tutorial!!!!
Thank you. I appreciate it. 🤝
Great tutorial - loved it! Your personality is good for teaching this, too. I learned a lot even though I know my Cameo software pretty well. I look forward to seeing more as good Silhouette software tutorials are harder to find than cricut. Do you see that there is a very big advantage to having a newer version of the Cameo machine? I only have a Cameo 2 and I do ok with it.
Thank you. I appreciate the compliment, and am glad to hear that you're learning new things. I completely agree with the lack of good tutorials. There are a few channels, that have good content, but most seem to be pretty clunky and fairly hard to follow. I've had many people tell me that they get lost following other people's videos. I was hesitant to start making videos, but am glad to hear that people seem to be benefitting from them. There are some added advantages to the newer machines, but seem to be mostly for convenience. Such as the vinyl roll holder, and the built in cutter. If you're doing a fair amount of vinyl, from rolls, those might be convenient. Otherwise, if your machine is working well, and you don't "need" the added conveniences, you should be good with what you have.
That’s awesome! Thank you for the instruction… By the way, your stickers had me cracking up!
You're welcome. Glad that it was useful and you enjoyed it.
Thank you sir!
Just found this tutorial in 2024. Can you tell me what brand sticker paper, the type of lamination paper, and laminator you are using? Also, can I buy one of your 3D printer guides? GENIUS! Thanks Great tutorial
In this tutorial, I used HTVRont sticker paper and Avery laminate. I don't recommend either, now that I've done extensive testing. I use industrial products now, meant for vehicle wraps.
@@Richard97402 What brand of industrial products do you use now that are meant for vehicle wraps? They are printable like the ones in the video also?
Hi 541 Richard, I am using Old Fox mats for the Cameo 4, they're very close and as close as you can get to the original Silhouette mats but they're cheaper. I have been using these for a short while but get decent results. I have been following your tutorial for cutting without registrations marks and find it more reliable than with the marks.
Great! Happy to hear that you're getting better results now.
Thanks
I just bought a cameo and was playing with it. Had no idea we could do it without registration marks! ?I'm definitely going to try it out!
I tried this and for some reason. My cutting is kind of off. It’s cutting too much to the left and down. Could anyone help? Thanks!
@Tea Carb mine was off a little bit. That's why I made a part 2, which shows my method to find where to place my sheet on my mat. Mine was off, very little, but enough that I wanted better.
There is a calibration, for the machine as well. It seems to be for registration marks, but couldn't hurt to try, as well.
Thank you, this saved me a headache!
You're welcome. Happy to hear that I could help.
Great video! thanks for this.
Thanks for this its a great video !!
You're welcome. Glad that you enjoyed it.
Thank you for the compliment.
I’m #910 Subscriber to your channel. You have the best Silhouette tutorial 🎉👍.
Thank you. I really appreciate the compliment.
I have a follow-up, to this video, coming soon. It's to help get better results, for people woth lesser accurate machines.
I'd planned it, for today, but life had other plans.
Thanks again for the watch, the compliment, and the subscribe. I also didn't realize that we're closing in on 1,000 subscribers.
While watching your tutorials I like to show my support to your channel, I’ll be clicking 👍’s up on all videos and your comments.
Thank you so much for making this video. I’ve just got a cameo 4 and it keeps cutting in the wrong place with registration marks. I’ve since read glossy sticker paper can sometimes do this. It cuts perfectly on plain paper so I’m sure it’s the glossy. I’ll try without marks tomorrow.
You're welcome. I hope that it helps your situation.
If you're using the registration marks, and aren't against them, I have heard that putting matte scotch tape over the registration marks makes them easier to read. I don't have firsthand experience, as I've never used the registration marks, but have seen that come up multiple times in my groups.
@@Richard97402 well it cut in almost the right place. Perhaps 1-2mm off on the X and Y but the kids didn’t mind the free stickers. I’ll get it right soon. Cheers
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Hi thanks for your video
I did not realise the cameo would cut without registration marks as I’m having problems with registration failed .
I hope that my method is able to help you get around the issue, then. I've actually never used the registration marks. I'd heard many complaints about struggles, and I hated how much material waste there was. This was my solution to the problem.
@@Richard97402 yes I’m new to cameo and I have been so’s disheartened and went back to cricut after cussing it out lol
Thanks again
I hope it will work with my curio to
I hope so too. I haven't used the Curio, personally.
I'd be curious to hear how it goes.
good
Now I wish I had a new machine, LOL Im trying to find out how to cut (not necessarily stickers) stuff to put into my Junk Journals but I have an old Silhouette SD and I can not find out how to make the registration marks right or how to skip them. But I liked your video and did subscribe to your channel. Thank you for a nice tutorial.
Thank you so much. I appreciate the subscribe, and the positive feedback. I wish that I knew more, to help you with your machine. The Cameo 4 is the first vinyl cutter that I have ever had. I'd wanted a cutter for many years, but finally made a purchase on my current machine.
So glad that I found your You Tube Channel! I have a problem I hope you can help me with.....I have an Epson WF 7210: doing inkjet transfers on Jetpro SS. Last night, everything was working fine. This morning, my registration marks aren't showing up very good...almost looks like they are supposed to be filled with a color. I'm creating designs in Silhouette Studio, Designer edition, version 4.1.442. Can't figure out what I need to correct.....everything prints out perfectly, EXCEPT the registration marks! And yes, I have plenty black ink in the printer. Black thinks in the design print out fine. Hope you can help me!
Unfortunately I don't know. I never use registration marks, so don't know how to troubleshoot them. I use the method, in this video which doesn't use them.
From what I've seen, most commonly in the groups, if page sizes don't match everywhere, it can cause printing issues. Other than that I'm not sure.
Awesome video thanks for sharing. I got myself a silhouette as well because I’ve heard so many good things about it, except I got the silhouette portrait 3. Do you know if this process works on my version as well?
Thank you. I know a lot about the Cameos and a decent amount about the Curio. I don't know much about the Portrait unfortunately. Realistically it should work very similarly though. Using the same software and overall concept, where it is sending what is on your screen to your machine, the location that it is placed in the software is ideally where it comes out in reality. There are slight inconsistencies in the cutting accuracy of these inexpensive cutters, so they won't be perfect, but I get pretty good results pretty consistently. I have a follow-up video to this one, where I show how to get more accurate cuts, if your machine isn't as accurate. You can always try the registration marks, and compare the two as well. The registration marks seem to work well, for some people, but I know that they are a nightmare for a lot of people as well.
Can you give us a little info about your eco tank printer ? I am looking for one that I don't have to replace the cartridges so often. Enjoyed the video and learned some new techniques. I just bought a Cameo 4 because my original cameo WOULD NOT read registration marks.... ever ! This would have saved me some money ! ! !
Do you have something specific that you are wanting to know? It is the ET-3760 that I have, in the video. It's a fairly basic printer/scanner, with the benefit of the ink tanks.
Just a heads up. This does NOT work on Cameo 5.
@@jazeppi interesting. I can't see a reason why it wouldn't, as the software and everything is the same, but that's good to know.
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So happy to find this video! Learned so much! Just recently bought a cutter and hated how much paper I was not able to use because of registration marks. And also kept getting "Registration Failed". Being a newbie, this may be a dumb question, but is there a reason you don't use the Print Bleed option rather than putting the offset color around the dog and penquin to help with misaligned cutting? I guess it doesn't come out as nice? Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience!
When I came up with this method the bleed option, as I understood was pretty buggy and unreliable. I have heard that more recent updates have made it better, but since this technique has worked for me, I haven't bothered changing things. It's the old "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" approach. =D
If bleed works now, and is a good option for you, then absolutely go that route. Hypothetically it should do the same thing, that I am manually doing.
Thank you for watching, glad that it helped you, and good question.
@@Richard97402 Thanks for your reply! I think your way is better. When I printed with the bleed it is very fuzzy and not solid color like yours. So the edge won't be as crisp if it cuts offmark a little. I'm rewatching the video. My cuts were way off. I was careful when I placed the printout on the mat, but the cut is about 1/4" off!
@@joanofartcreationsmore8434 I have a follow up video, which should help with that. I've got it roughly half recorded, so hoping to have it done in the next day or two. Some machines aren't as accurate as mine, so I have a sort of "calibration" that should make people who's machine are missing the cut, be more predictable.
@@Richard97402 I'm sorry--my bad! I think I accidentally lined up the printout looking at the mat lines when the mat was upside down! I did that the other day but caught myself. That's what happens when you stay up past midnight I guess! I think it's off a little, but I'm at least on the printed part! So happy you also said not to remove the printout until you check if it cut right. I have had to redo more than once and try to line things up the same as before. You've been a great help! Thanks!
Thanks sooooo much Richard, I was wasting so much vinyl using the registration marks. Regards from Down Under 🦘🦘🦘
You're welcome. Thanks for watching, and I hope that it helps with the wasted vinyl issue. The machines are slightly different, so I've been told that it takes a test or two, to determine exactly where your sheet should sit on your mat. So maybe do a couple of tests on cheap paper, to get it dialed in, and then I've never had any real issues skipping the registration marks.
I’m going to try this. I’ve been so upset at registration marks because my machine reads one page and does great, then on the next page it’ll try to search Everywhere for the registration marks without seeing them. I’ll have to stop the machine and reboot the whole computer to cut one more page. Then it does it again. I can’t stand my machine.
Sad. Hopefully this works for you, and leads to less frustration. Since making this video, I do some projects with registration marks, and some without. This still works well for me, but pros and cons depending on the job, the time restraints, etc. Plus anything being cut on my other machines can't benefit from this technique. Have you tried doing manual registration on your Silhouette? You can move the machine yourself, and "show" the Cameo where the registration marks are. That's come in handy, for me, a couple of times.
@@Richard97402 I’ve had lot of trouble trying to do manual registration and I think it’s not because I don’t fully understand the directions or get it to print the way they show the page, and I can’t see very well at that distance to be sure it’s aligned. So I’m really hoping this will work.
Great info..but.....aren’t your gears patterns in the wrong places on the “real men use 3 pedals”...? I’ve never shifted in that pattern before,lol..
That's funny! Good catch.
I was playing with a bunch of different styles. 4-speed, 5-speed, 6-speed, Reverse on the left, Reverse on the right, etc. I am not sure how this one came to be. LOL
Luckily it was just a test, and not for a customer, because I would be even more embarrassed. =P
I had to go make sure that I wasn't crazy. I made 9 of them, in total, with different gearing and sayings. The other 8 were correct, so I just had to correct the one. Thanks for the keen eye, so that I could fix my oversight.
I would love to know the products you use. If possible, can you list those in the description box as well? Great video!!!
It's sticker paper from HTVront, and self adhesive Avery laminate.
Love you video. This will help me alot. I use regular sticker paper that already Water resistant so I don't laminate. What cut setting would you recommend using for just the sticker paper?
My sticker paper is water proof. The problem is that the ink isn't waterproof and fades when around UV light. If you're using laser or ecosolvents, then it isn't a problem. Otherwise best to laminate if they will go outside or even near natural light.
You would need to do some test cuts, if you wanted to just cut the sticker paper without lamination. I've never done it, because I knew that I wanted the UV and water protection, plus each sticker paper is going to be different. Since I cut mine at a blade depth of 6, I'd probably start at 3 or 4, without lamination, and make adjustments as needed.
I'm glad that the video was helpful. If you choose to go without lamination, I'd be curious to hear what settings end up working for you.
@@Richard97402 I appreciate it. Thank you. I mainly use my sticker paper to decorate containers in combination with permanent vinyl. And to decorate plastic cups/party bags for party which is a one time use so it never really stand in sun at all.
@@lilkimcreations that makes sense to me. If they're one time use, it could be with it too save the time and money of laminating. The sheets aren't super expensive, but supplies and time definitely add up. Thanks for the clarification. I like learning what people make and how they go about it. 🤝
Thank you for the Great video, I am very new to Camio, I am doing print and cut and my cuts are off by around 2 to 2.5mm, re calibrating did not help, do you have any suggestions that I can try. Thank you
I've honestly never done the calibration, because I don't use registration marks. The way that I showed, in the video, is the only way that I've ever done print and cut. My first page was just a touch too far right, so now I put the sheet on the line, instead of inside the lines (like I showed in the video) and have never had anymore issues.
Thank yo for your video.
I don't understand one thing. You laminated the stickers. You covered the adhesive on the back. How are they going to stick it?
@samsong8106 I didn't cover anything on the back. It's just the sticker backing, that is on the back of the print. I just peeled them, and stuck them, like any other traditional sticker.
This was a great video. Quick question. Did you have to calibrate the silhouette machine prior to cutting?
I've never done the calibration, no. I just put my material in the top corner of the mat, exactly how it is displayed in Silhouette Studio.
My understanding is that the calibration is for print and cut, using registration marks. Since registration marks aren't being used, and it isn't reading anything, I didn't see a need to do the calibration.
@@Richard97402 so i tried it your way step by step. The cut was only off by a little bit. But it also didnt cut all the way through the sticker paper. Do i need to adjust the blade or anything manually before i give it another go? Thanks in advance
@@arielwasxxx Yes, you definitely need the proper cut settings for the materials that you are using. Even if we're using the exact same products, there are differences in machines, as well as things like how sharp/new each of our blades are. You'll want to find what works for your materials.
I've gotten feedback, that the machines seem to be one of two ways. Either place the paper just inside the borders of the mat, or put the paper on the lines just enough to cover them. If you're only off a tiny bit, it might be that.
I've found my cut is quite accurate if I put it right on the lines, but have had a few people tell me there's works great when they are upto the line, but not covering it.
There are tolerances to these machines, so they're never perfect, but we can get them quite close.
How do I do this with a holographic laminate? Mine doesn't cut right when I use holographic laminate but cuts fine with regular laminate.
I have, and have used, holographic laminate. What I show, in the video, is exactly the same for holographic. The machine isn't reading or looking for anything, so being shiny, matte, holographic, chrome, etc, doesn't matter because it is just cutting based on where things are in the software.
Amazing video thanks for sharing! Can I ask you what blade did you use? Am I wrong or you’re using an auto blade? If so is it able to cut such a thick material? Thank you!
You're welcome, and thanks for the compliment.
Yes, you are correct, in that I am using the Autoblade. I bought 2 backup Autoblades, but the one that came with my machine is still doing great, so have never swapped it out.
@@Richard97402 thank your for the prompt reply! I’am having so many issues with the cameo 4. I was very happy with my 3 before broke down. I’am using a premium blade on this Cameo 4 with Force at 33, speed 4 and 2 passes and still doesn’t cut all the way through! And I use your same laminated sheets. By the way I’am shocked to see that is possible to cut without the registration marks! It’s insane! So why do the registration marks exist if is possible to cut without? I don’t get it. Again you’re Amazing! This tutorial deserve 10 stars! THANK YOU you the man! 🙏🏼
@@ohcrazydiamond I understand the point of the registration marks, being that they are supposed to help make sure your cuts are correct, even if your document isn't perfectly placed. They seem to cause people more trouble though, plus I didn't like the amount of waste, so I never actually used the marks. If your page is a little crooked, in theory, reading the registration marks would still get a proper cut, while with what I do, you definitely need to really line up the page correctly. I'd rather take a few extra seconds and avoid them, and that is how I got to this technique. 😊
@@Richard97402 amazing solution! Thank you again Richard!
hi there Richard... great video using a cameo 4 pro for the first time and trying stickers via print and cut... following your video ... the cameo is printing completely off and nowhere near the cutlines on image/stickers. Not sure what im doing wrong?
Without seeing it, I can't say for sure. Each machine has tolerances, and therefore slight differences, from one machine to the next. It should never be "completely off" as you've mentioned, though. I have heard that the Cameo has a ± 1/16" tolerance, so it could potentially be off upto 1/8". Anything more than that, and it sounds like something is wrong. Whether it is how the media is being loaded, the carriage being someone different than it thinks it is, or other potential issues. I'm planning a video, to help dial in this technique, to accommodate for the differences in machines. I've just been slammed this week, so it is a bit slower than I would like.
I hope that it is something easy, and is resolved quickly. If not, I hope to get the follow-up video up soon, to help get a more accurate cut.
man, your video has been the most informed and easier to follow than most of those other videos who have no idea what theyre actually doing with settings and computers. I was about to return my cameo lol. Do you ever have issues with certain glossy sticker labels that leave behind a sandy, uneven surface with glue residue? maybe its down to the material im using which is zicotto paper? zicotto is a good waterproof paper, except it leaves residue, where other labels are great, smooth cuts with no residue but not waterproof and more thin of materials
Thank you. That was the main reason that I started creating these videos. I had MANY people complain that the videos that they were finding, often skipped steps, and assumed that you already knew part of the process. I wanted to make sure that nobody was left behind.
As far as the sandy glue residue, that doesn't sound familiar. I used Zicotto for a short time. It was very hit-and-miss, in my experience. I didn't like that each sheet seemed to be a gamble, so I ultimately stopped using them. When I got a sheet that worked well, I did like the results, but didn't like the (I'm guessing) 35% failure rate.
@@Richard97402 appreciate your videos man! do you make stickers full time? I am in the process of learning printing since i love tech and designing. I've learned alot about different inks lately but need more about different papers and materials to use. Its a slow process now but I hope I can get my hands on a large wide format printer
@@dandee28 I'm getting to that point. My full-time "real" job is an automotive painter. I am about 98% done building my new shop, which is for my stickers, decals, laser engraving, etc. A handful of people have asked me about the progress of the shop, so my plan for the next video is to show off the new space. I secured my names, business bank accounts, website, Etsy, etc. Now it is just a matter of actually getting it all updated and going. Everything so far has been word of mouth.... but just April, so far, has been about $1,100 in business.
Between the painting job, and building this shop, it has basically eaten up all of my free time, and feel bad about a lack of video content, as a result. I want to make more videos, (and plan to) and know that there are people who are looking forward to more from me.
I have a dye-based standard (8.5x11/A4 printer) as well as a large format pigment printer. Solvent printers are basically the standard for professional printing, but not in my budget currently.... especially after building this shop. Lol
@@Richard97402 budddy thats crazy... im actually full time automotive painter as well LOL. my side gig is window tint, ppf, wraps. But now I've started to love designing and getting back into printers and just looking at large format printers. I am trying to learn as much as i can about diff types of inks, online course for adobe products. literally have no personal time at all. I know how it is man, at the same time I love these things and if the money comes, then itll work out.
I paint with sikkens and hate it.
I just bought an eco tank, and two cameos but i dont think thatll be sufficient because I want to print on wraps too.
Your progress is good man. I have been scared to do the business license for that, and a domain name
@dan Very cool. I painted with Sikkens and Diamont, before. I am painting with Ed Hubbs now, and we're using Axalta/DuPont.
I just started doing larger format printing. My first project was actually a sign for Ed Hubbs' shop. I'm excited to keep pushing forward.
Im not sure why my cameo start to cut at the cut border ,not cut at the print border 😢
I listened closely and need to try cutting without registration marks since my Cameo 3 and Design Studio decided to --*not*-- register and cut flawlessly on HP Photo Paper (80lb glossy) after not using the machine for a year. I think its mad at me.
If it has been a long time and the accuracy is off, it could be worth calibrating the machine as well. Mine is calibrated pretty nicely, and works well, with or without registration marks.
Great video!! I appreciate it!! THKS. Your workspace is like mine. We always need a bigger area, isn’t it.
I have a question: Do you need all these glasses for something or you must drink water so much? 😜😹
My print border is on the edge of my media and my cut line is inside that...?
I can't say that it is all printers... At least with both of mine, there is a print boundary that puts the edge of the print area just inside of the page. (I believe it is about 1/8" all of the way around) If you check/tick the box to display the print border, it will show it on screen. If you cut on a mat, then you can use the entire media. If you are cutting without a mat, than the cuttable area is smaller, which again, can be shown by displaying the cut borders.
I hope that answers your question. If not, or I misunderstood, please let me know, and I will try to be more helpful.
NICEEE!!! What sticker paper do you use? I've wasted too much money on stuff that doesn't work. Thanks!!
Thanks for your comment. I haven't played around, much, with different sticker papers. I purchased a pack from HTVront, on Amazon. They have been working well for me, so have stuck with them so far. I purchase them in packs of 40 sheets, and they are usually between 12 and 13 dollars for the pack.
Hi Richard, I just came across this video and I’m a new subscriber. I have a Cameo Plus and did everything in the video and for some reason, the cut is way off. 😖 What do you think might be the issue?
Oh, no.
I've heard that some people's machines aren't cutting in the same place. (As far as where zero is on X, and where zero is on Y) If you're lining things up nicely, on the origin lines of your mat, but your machine isn't seeing that as the start point, then the cut wouldn't be great.
I cut tape, to find where my origin was, which was right on the lines of my mat, so just lining it up there, has been great.
I could make a follow up video, showing the tape trick that I used, for finding where your edges should be.
Im watching this a year later, and love the demo. I hope you eventually corrected the gear shift sticker to 1 3 5 on top and 2 4 6 on bottom before you gave too many out! 😊
I didn't give out any, and caught it pretty quickly. I made a bunch of designs. 4-speed, 5-speed, 6-speed, different colors, etc. Surprisingly only this one was incorrect. Still not sure how I managed to mess up the one, but no problem. Lol
@Richard97402 lol! I noticed it bc it's something I would do. My first cameo will be here Thursday, so I'm watching various videos. Yours was recommended and I really enjoyed it.
@trainscarsandsons Happy to hear it. I recently got my new shop set up, and would like to start making videos again. If there is information that I can help with, let me know, and it could possibly be the next video.
What font are you using for the sticker that says "Real men use 3 pedals"?
i have a portrait and this did not work for me guess i will go back to the old way but thanks
Hey man love video I'm totally over registration marks in silhouette, quick question I have laminator that does not have hot and cold option just heat is it ok to use laminate sheets that have adhesive in laminator with heat
Glad that you enjoyed the video. As far as lamination is concerned, if you can get a good bond between the sticker and the laminate, I don't see a reason that heat should be an issue. Heated lamination is usually for lamination sleeves, which would put laminate over the back of the sticker though. I just switched away from the Avery laminate, that I used in this video, but apply the new product the exact same way. The Avery product didn't do well with UV rays, which basically defeated the entire point of using it. Adhesive laminate (at least the ones that I have used) don't require a machine at all. You can just apply the adhesive. I just like the extra piece of mind that the machine pushed it down.
@@Richard97402 thanks for the info, do you have link for the new laminate sheets you use now
@@christiansiddons2121 I love the Vvivid brand, and use them for when I do vinyl wraps on cars. They offer laminate in rolls, that I am trying. I've only made 2 sheets of stickers, with it, so far. That being said, the colors have more "depth" to them, and the laminate feels much higher quality. It is a little harder to apply. I cut a piece, the size of my sticker sheet, from the roll. Then I basically apply it how I did in the video. So an extra cut from the roll, and no little tab like the Avery to help peel the backing paper, but otherwise a similar process and feels much higher quality. I'm still doing testing, with it, for longer term durability, but happy so far.
This is the Amazon listing that I purchased from. a.co/d/gCIIAfU
Thanks
Great video! I’ve been using Silhouette for a couple of years and I’ve learned a couple of things from this video. Just from memory, I thought it wouldn’t allow you to cut without the registration marks on it giving you an error message??? Secondly I like that roll of laminate idea, but don’t you think you’d have a lot of waste in the long run because of the size being 12”?
I see you have a Tusy heat press. My question is your heat setting reflect the digital preset or do you calibrate often if so how do you do it?
Hi, my machine is reading all the registration marks but when it cuts it is like cutting the smaller version of what it is supposed to cut.
Other than making sure that your page size is the same, everywhere... unfortunately I'm not sure what to suggest, as I've never used registration marks, and therefore have never needed to troubleshoot them.
Thanks for the awesome video! So I assume the machine will pull in the mat everytime the same amount while feeding?
If things are working correctly, yes. If you are using a Silhouette compatible mat, it should know where the 0:0 point is, in the top left corner. Doing the tape trick, in my part 2 video, will verify where your machine sees that 0:0 starting point. It should be pretty consistent though.
@@Richard97402 thanks for your reply! Yes saw your other video as well, genuis trick! Because it will 0,0 for all jobs and not for the current one only.
But regarding the Mat, I assume the machine will not scan the top left corner, it is more a mechanical reference and the mat must be fed always in the same manner?
@@EVO_Engineering I'm assuming that you're correct. That it likely turns the wheels a certain amount, which would pull the mat a specific distance. Loading the mat consistently is what will finalize the position. I push my mat against the rightmost notch on the front of the machine, next to the gray arrows. It helps with placement, as well as more accuracy with square-ness.
@@Richard97402 got that info regarding "push the mat on the rightmost notch" out of your great videos. Thanks for your replies!
Richard will this work on a Cameo portrait 2, I'm also having problems with the registration marks. Thanks.
The Cameo 4 is my first and only cutter, so far, so I can't say for sure.
Realistically, if your document size and mat size match, in the software and in reality, I don't know why it couldn't.
It should just be a matter of getting the media in the right location (like the top left of my mat, in the video) and should be good to go from there.
If you try it, I'd be curious to know if it works out.
OK. I tried it the first time, and it was off by at least a half inch, but then I readjusted it and it worked perfect. Thanks for giving us all an out of the registration problem. Also on the Cameo portrait you have to place your mat on the second set of lines not the first. Again thanks.
@@jamesgaskill11 sorry to hear about the wasted one, on the first attempt, but glad to hear that you were able to make a quick adjustment, and get it perfect.
Thanks for the update, and really glad to hear that it worked for you as well.
GREAT INFORMATION WHAT DOES THE TRACE AREA DO?
You tell it what you want to trace. Whatever is in that trace area is all that it is "reading".
@@Richard97402 Thank you for your response.
Where did u get the guide
I made it, using my 3D printer. There are many versions available, for free download. The one that I use, I modified from one of the free guides.
I have a heat press can I use that to laminate? I have the Scotts brand laminate
I'm not sure. It is not intended that way, but you may have luck. I only use cold press lamination. I have switched to Vvivid lamination, since this video, but same process.
What version of Silhouette are you using? I don't have the option to change the color of the page
It's part of every version. It was introduced later, so most likely your version is just too old and need an update. It looks like version 4.4.81, from what I can find, is when it was included.