Simply amazing work by the Moto Technique team. This run of 10 Dino EVO editions (or at least proposed) will be sought after not because of the performance, but because of the painstaking attention to detail in making everything else work to perfection.
Back in early 1980 I have a choice to buy Dino for about the same price Lotus but I always a have a deep love for Lotus Esprit so went for it no regret super handling car much fun. Dino would have been a great investment when you get old and look back. But in life you live once follow your passion if Ferrari calling than you must go.
I don't think you would have regretted the Dino. At the time it was considered the best handling car in the world. My Europa was considered the second, after the Dino.
THIS vehicle embodies everything I adore in a Ferrari or any sports car. Tight, responsive, and lightweight chassis. Naturally aspirated, high-revving, responsive engine with a rowdy shrieking note. Not the quickest or fastest, but a joy to drive.!! ❤❤👍🏼
Thank you. What we have done is evolve the original Dino's handling and performance to more modern standards whilst always respecting the original car and the people that built them. Yes, sticking a big American V8 in there would have been sacrilege.
You may just set a trend! Wow! No words can do justice to this kind of perfection. It looks so contemporary! Ferrari needs to reissue this model along your lines.
I drove an original Dino back in 1982, it was in our workshop for bodywork repairs. That moment has stayed with me ever since. Thanks for sharing this beautiful recreation for the 21st century & kudos to those whose dedication brought it to life 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻.
The engine cover is a stunning detail on the black Dino, and the 360 wheels on the red one look wonderful even if not original. The Dino is and always will be the original super model of autos :)
We agree with you, the perspex engine cover is one of our favourite details and it works perfectly. The 360 wheels on the original prototype were a necessity at the time and are quite divisive in peoples opinions. We understand that they are a "Marmite" thing, but we are pleased that you like them. We like them too.
God dam, the 246 has always been my dream ferrari, it's now this one. Bloody love it, outstanding work, up there with the singers imo. Thankyou for creating such a machine.
After all that trouble, you could have spelled the "I can't believe" quote from Jay Leno correctly. Great work from Mototechnique, David Lee is a true enthusiast and generous with his time and his wonderful collection of Ferraris.
Our dear friend Andy Cohen was the driving force in this unique collaboration with Moto Technique and he is greatly missed, but what a wonderful legacy to leave behind. Thank you Andy
Smart great job, the V8, the casted new wheels for the bigger break calibers, the ECU sistem, the wire throttle......absolutely awesome, you british are crazy, i love you !!!!
As a Ferrari mechanic with over 40 years experience you've got my respect. I've built countless Dino's over the years but this is extraordinary . My only knock on the 246 is it's underpowered, this build has taken care of that hasn't it ? Anyway, props to you from SoCal, Cheers.
Thank you for your kind comment. It means so much when somebody with experience and knowledge appreciates and understands what we have achieved here. If you're ever in the UK please feel free to come and visit us.
It's like going back in time and going into a Ferrari factory and saying hey, this is how I really want this car...let's build it. Amazing craftsmanship, true to form.
@@mototechnique1282 if I could afford it, I would go to you, no doubt. This is by and for a true gentleman. No doubt. I thank you for just letting me dream of it, even though reality is that it will never happen for me. Nevertheless I persue the art of being a gentleman 👌
I'd give up both of ma beans to own this car, I've already got kids don't need em no more, but I do need this. Absolutely perfect in every way possible. Cheers fellas you out did yourselves on this Dino
Beautiful car(s) both. Love your attention to the detail items and the execution of same. Understated elegance. And spoken about by a gentleman without the rah rah of some modern day "tuners". Total respect for you and your endeavours. Motor on kind sir and enjoy the fruits of your laburs. :)
Stunning! Curious as to the rationale for using a bored out F40 block. Do the external dimensions of the later V8's prevent the use of them, or are they harder to mount to a 328 gearbox?
Classic cars reflect the spirit and technology of its time, they must be as original as possible. That is not a Dino, is something else. The most valuable cars for a true collector are the original ones
Thank you for your comment. If you collect cars just because you are interested in their value only, then yes have a totally original unrestored Dino, but remember that these cars are now approaching 50 years of age and there are not many unrestored original examples left. If on the other hand you would like to imagine the ultimate evolution and potential of what this wonderful design of probably one of the most beautiful sports cars of all time could be and what can be achieved in terms of speed, handling, safety, braking, feel and reliability with modern technology, whilst retaining all the characteristics of the original, then we would suggest that this could be the answer. It's not for everyone and we understand that, but we truly believe that we have created the ultimate evolution of the Dino and that it's now the car that it always had the potential to be, whilst totally respecting the original car and its philosophy.
Thank you for your question. These figures are made available to the owners. Yes, it will be quicker and faster than any standard Dino, but no where near modern supercar standards. But, this car is not about numbers such as 0-100kph or top speed. Its about feel and feedback between the driver and the car, its about emotion and satisfaction of a drive that will put a smile on your face every time you get into the drivers seat and experience an analogue drive with no driver aides and its all about your personal engagement with a car tailored to your bespoke specification. This is something that is just not an optional extra on modern supercars which although have crazy engine outputs and performance figures, they are in the "real world" sterilised by all the drive aides which are needed to make them drivable and safe. Do you really need 700-800bhp on a road car? and how many people can truly drive such a car? If you have a car that weights about 1000kgs and it has 350bhp that's about all you need to have fun. but, 0-100kph and top speed and BHP sell cars.
Beautiful car, but part of the charm of the 206 and 246 Dinos is the V6 engine. To me it just suits the car. Without it they don't sound right. Just like a Stratos with a V8 wouldn't
Hi Alan, Thank you for your comment, Its quite normal for people to say that, but I can tell you with honesty that everyone who has expressed the same view and has then had the opportunity to either drive or be a passenger in one of our restomods have changed their minds with a 100% success rate. I hope that one day you get the opportunity too.
@@mototechnique1282 yes, be nice should the opportunity come along. Certainly more power and mod cons compared to the original spec, which Ferrari would have built into it by now.
Thank you for your kind words. It would take a lot of time and expense to make the 17 inch Cormodora wheels fit my original Dino 3.2 Restomod. But, I really like the 360 wheels even if they are not period correct. People who don't like them can always fit what they like to their own Dinos. 😉
I'm flattered that you took notice and I hope you weren't offended by my comment. It is of course a remarkable achievement and like I said, something to be proud of. Regards
I'd like to see the same treatment applied to a Porsche 944 and a Maserati Bora, these models should never have been discontinued, an exotic Masa and a practical front engine /rear wheel drive affordable Porsche.
@@anthonyxuereb792 Yes, this treatment could easily be applied to both those classics. At the moment our new program involves upgrading and restomoding Ferrari 308 / 328 to more modern standards of performance and handling along with bore and stroking of the Ferrari V8 engine to 3.8 Litres and 400Bhp. A new film will be produced in the not too distant future. Keep watching.
Dude... i always dreamed of building a Dino with a modern engine swaped in or retro-fitting a Motec ecu into something classic... It's just exactly what i would put my money on
Fantastic car, though when I have the means I’ll ask for a version with slightly more integrated wheel arch extensions (I know I am being extremely picky). What is so wonderful is that it’s quite understated, compact, while having a decent boot for going touring.
The most beautiful and elegant of all the Ferraris. The only detraction on this machine are the ugly hoops sticking out from the wheel wells. For those who don't know, Alfredo (Dino) Ferrari died at age 24 of Muscular Dystrophy. And the Dino was the first production mid-engine Ferrari.
Thank you for your comment. The fender flares have been made to the exact period correct Ferrari specification that they produced on the Dino 246 "Flairs and Chair" model. Not to everyones taste, but historically correct.
Why? The modern sound kills it for me personally, but to each their own. Carburetted is a must. I'm not anti restomod, but this is a car I hold sacred.
I thought the '74 246GTS i had (same color as your car) was perfectly balanced, if I wanted to go faster I have other cars for that. Does the modified car have that same sensuous balance of the original?
Thank you for your comment. Everyone who has previously owned a Dino and is a Ferrari purist have asked exactly the very same question as you and every single one of them (Without fail) that has driven this Dino V8 Restomod have been left in total awe and assured of what we have done. This car does not only respect the original Dino design and philosophy, but it's power, handling and reliability are all enhanced whilst retaining all the charm and character of the original. You really have to drive it to understand it. If you've owned or driven and original factory 2.4 V6, you will feel at home straight away and you'll really get it.
The Italians invented it, the English perfected it and a Californian bought it ... superb result, Ferrari should be inspired by it the latest models are ugly
They probably had a good reason for using an NA F40 engine, but why not just use a 360 or 430 engine? Same HP on the 360, more with the 430 at a much lower price. Was it physical dimensions of the exterior of the motor?
My guess would also be that it had to do with heritage, seeing as the F40 engine was a direct descendant of the Dino V8, also, packing probably also played a role if I were guessing. I also realize the 360 engine is also based on the Dino V8, but in reality it probably just came down to personal preference
This has to be one of the most beautiful cars ever
Jay Leno's video brought me here. What an amazing project. I hope the company receives several more such projects.
Simply amazing work by the Moto Technique team. This run of 10 Dino EVO editions (or at least proposed) will be sought after not because of the performance, but because of the painstaking attention to detail in making everything else work to perfection.
If this is regarded as a gauntlet thrown down in terms of making a work of art better
the bar has been set ridiculously high. This is outstanding.
Back in early 1980 I have a choice to buy Dino for about the same price Lotus but I always a have a deep love for Lotus Esprit so went for it no regret super handling car much fun. Dino would have been a great investment when you get old and look back. But in life you live once follow your passion if Ferrari calling than you must go.
I don't think you would have regretted the Dino. At the time it was considered the best handling car in the world. My Europa was considered the second, after the Dino.
Absolutely beautiful. The sounds coming from the engine, the interior, the whole car is just a dream come true for any Ferrari enthusiast.
Thank you Jeanne.
I was very young age and saw this Ferrari Dino most beautiful car. Take my breath away...
THIS vehicle embodies everything I adore in a Ferrari or any sports car.
Tight, responsive, and lightweight chassis.
Naturally aspirated, high-revving, responsive engine with a rowdy shrieking note.
Not the quickest or fastest, but a joy to drive.!!
❤❤👍🏼
When I read the title I was terrified you’d dropped an American big block in. Perfect build
Thank you. What we have done is evolve the original Dino's handling and performance to more modern standards whilst always respecting the original car and the people that built them. Yes, sticking a big American V8 in there would have been sacrilege.
To me, the DINO is the most beautiful and classy Ferrari ever made.
I'm partial to the 288 GTO, but I'd be just as happy with this one too. Stunning!
We totally agree with you 😊
@@jakethepitador2558 We love the 288GTO. You are a man of great taste.
Incredible piece of engineering chaps - it really is in a different class.
A perfect sports car. Fantastic. Richard Lee and this car was also a Jay Leno video too.
You may just set a trend! Wow! No words can do justice to this kind of perfection. It looks so contemporary! Ferrari needs to reissue this model along your lines.
"No words can do justice to this kind of perfection?" We think you just did!! Thank you for your kind words.
Vince de Simone Aren’t Ferrari rumoured to be thinking of producing a new Dino?
A respectful and brilliant upgrade to a legend.....one of the most gorgeous cars ever, up there with the E-type and the Muira. Great job Motech!
Steve Murrell moron
Thank you for your kind words.
@@maddypalone9731 Really? Who hurt you?
In my humble opinion, this is a perfect car.
Thank you for your kind comment.
Exquisite! Makes a 911 look about as beautiful as a Russian tractor!
It is indeed!
The finest dino the world has seen
Thank you 🙏🏼
I drove an original Dino back in 1982, it was in our workshop for bodywork repairs. That moment has stayed with me ever since. Thanks for sharing this beautiful recreation for the 21st century & kudos to those whose dedication brought it to life 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻.
Thank you for your kind comments.
The engine cover is a stunning detail on the black Dino, and the 360 wheels on the red one look wonderful even if not original. The Dino is and always will be the original super model of autos :)
We agree with you, the perspex engine cover is one of our favourite details and it works perfectly. The 360 wheels on the original prototype were a necessity at the time and are quite divisive in peoples opinions. We understand that they are a "Marmite" thing, but we are pleased that you like them. We like them too.
God dam, the 246 has always been my dream ferrari, it's now this one. Bloody love it, outstanding work, up there with the singers imo. Thankyou for creating such a machine.
Thank you for your kind words. We're glad you like and appreciate our work.
@@mototechnique1282 I do like what you did, but it felt like you kinda ruined it. I don't know, it is kind of a conundrum.
A work of art and black paint so deep you could get lost in. Beautiful!
Thank you for your comment. It is greatly appreciated.
This was a beautiful short film.
After all that trouble, you could have spelled the "I can't believe" quote from Jay Leno correctly.
Great work from Mototechnique, David Lee is a true enthusiast and generous with his time and his wonderful collection of Ferraris.
Thank you for pointing out the spelling mistake. Unfortunately its too late to change it.
What a piece of art!!!
Thank you 🙏🏼
Dang! I wish I could afford one these. Best restomod I have ever seen.
Andy Cohen, you have made me very happy as to what you did with the Dino. Awesome
Our dear friend Andy Cohen was the driving force in this unique collaboration with Moto Technique and he is greatly missed, but what a wonderful legacy to leave behind. Thank you Andy
Bravo Mototechnique!
Grazie Gerardo
Smart great job, the V8, the casted new wheels for the bigger break calibers, the ECU sistem, the wire throttle......absolutely awesome, you british are crazy, i love you !!!!
One of the most beautiful Ferraris ever
We totally agree.
What an absolute beauty. You sir just made my day.
Now if you'll excuse, I need to change my trousers.
Thank you 😂
As a Ferrari mechanic with over 40 years experience you've got my respect. I've built countless Dino's over the years but this is extraordinary . My only knock on the 246 is it's underpowered, this build has taken care of that hasn't it ? Anyway, props to you from SoCal, Cheers.
Thank you for your kind comment. It means so much when somebody with experience and knowledge appreciates and understands what we have achieved here. If you're ever in the UK please feel free to come and visit us.
Well I'm a Jet Fighter Mechanic and this thing is slow :P
It's like going back in time and going into a Ferrari factory and saying hey, this is how I really want this car...let's build it. Amazing craftsmanship, true to form.
Thank you. We like to think so too.
...had the Campagnolo wheels recast... Thank you Mr. Lee.
It feels like a Singer Ferrari car... Amazing!
Gorgeous and amazing work.
Thank you.
Yeah, baby!
Absolute class. Always great and inspiring to see an expert and enthusiast at work. Great video!
Thank you for your kind comments and appreciation of our work.
No class at all ruining a beautiful car like that,
Glorious exhaust note.
I love this Dino.For me it's almost as stirring as seeing a beautiful woman in her Prime.
Love that exhaust note!
Amazing sound incide a very pretty line. Perfect!!!!
Thank you
Beautiful work! And this guy is a soundbite machine.
Ha, Ha, Ha. Thank you
A piece of automotive art 👌. Such high quality and class, unbelievably beautiful.
Thank you for your very kind comment
@@mototechnique1282 if I could afford it, I would go to you, no doubt. This is by and for a true gentleman. No doubt. I thank you for just letting me dream of it, even though reality is that it will never happen for me. Nevertheless I persue the art of being a gentleman 👌
@@Mastermindthreethousand "Never say Never" Everything is possible. We look forward to seeing you in the future. 😎
Omg 🔥🙌❤️ the best dino resto mod ever !!!! I need this in my life !!!!
Thank you 🙏🏼
Beautiful work, guys. Really inspiring. Now take that 328 and drop a Hemi in it! And don't forget the Cragars.
🤣
simply fantastic workmanship and power.
I'd give up both of ma beans to own this car, I've already got kids don't need em no more, but I do need this. Absolutely perfect in every way possible. Cheers fellas you out did yourselves on this Dino
Thank you. We wish you every success in life so that you can one day own one without having to give up both your beans!!
Beautiful car(s) both. Love your attention to the detail items and the execution of same. Understated elegance. And spoken about by a gentleman without the rah rah of some modern day "tuners". Total respect for you and your endeavours. Motor on kind sir and enjoy the fruits of your laburs. :)
Thank you so much for your kind words. We could not have put it better ourselves.
I love that beautiful noise..👍👍
Utterly arresting. Every time I look at this masterpiece, it strikes me dumb and I just gape.
Stunning! Curious as to the rationale for using a bored out F40 block. Do the external dimensions of the later V8's prevent the use of them, or are they harder to mount to a 328 gearbox?
This V8 is mounted latitudenally like the V12 of the Lamborghini Miura, instead of successive Ferrari V8 engines which were mounted longitudinally.
Classic cars reflect the spirit and technology of its time, they must be as original as possible. That is not a Dino, is something else. The most valuable cars for a true collector are the original ones
Thank you for your comment. If you collect cars just because you are interested in their value only, then yes have a totally original unrestored Dino, but remember that these cars are now approaching 50 years of age and there are not many unrestored original examples left. If on the other hand you would like to imagine the ultimate evolution and potential of what this wonderful design of probably one of the most beautiful sports cars of all time could be and what can be achieved in terms of speed, handling, safety, braking, feel and reliability with modern technology, whilst retaining all the characteristics of the original, then we would suggest that this could be the answer. It's not for everyone and we understand that, but we truly believe that we have created the ultimate evolution of the Dino and that it's now the car that it always had the potential to be, whilst totally respecting the original car and its philosophy.
Wonder what the top speed is and 0-100 KM??
Thank you for your question. These figures are made available to the owners. Yes, it will be quicker and faster than any standard Dino, but no where near modern supercar standards. But, this car is not about numbers such as 0-100kph or top speed. Its about feel and feedback between the driver and the car, its about emotion and satisfaction of a drive that will put a smile on your face every time you get into the drivers seat and experience an analogue drive with no driver aides and its all about your personal engagement with a car tailored to your bespoke specification. This is something that is just not an optional extra on modern supercars which although have crazy engine outputs and performance figures, they are in the "real world" sterilised by all the drive aides which are needed to make them drivable and safe.
Do you really need 700-800bhp on a road car? and how many people can truly drive such a car? If you have a car that weights about 1000kgs and it has 350bhp that's about all you need to have fun. but, 0-100kph and top speed and BHP sell cars.
Beautiful car, but part of the charm of the 206 and 246 Dinos is the V6 engine. To me it just suits the car. Without it they don't sound right. Just like a Stratos with a V8 wouldn't
Exactly, a Dino is light, fun and youthful. The V8 is to heavy/hard hitting for a car like that.
@@f2detaboada Yes. Light, fun and youthful. Great description.
Hi Alan, Thank you for your comment, Its quite normal for people to say that, but I can tell you with honesty that everyone who has expressed the same view and has then had the opportunity to either drive or be a passenger in one of our restomods have changed their minds with a 100% success rate. I hope that one day you get the opportunity too.
@@mototechnique1282 yes, be nice should the opportunity come along. Certainly more power and mod cons compared to the original spec, which Ferrari would have built into it by now.
This is a drop-dead beauty, in every way a great modern upgrade. Eat your heart out Singer/Porsche owners.
Thank you for your kind comment.
Technically not a Ferrari, but a Ferrari. Enzo's love for his son produced the most beautiful car ever built.
Mid 1976, they gave up on Dino brand and badged it and the GT4 Ferrari.
Marvellously evocative footage … top-drawer all round!
Thank you. We're glad you like it.
Great job lads
Good God, it's gorgeous!
Thank for your comment Sergiu.
Great video! Yeah I've always loved the looks of the Dino but turned off by a V6 w/ 210 hp! Yech! This changes everything!
Thank you for your kind comment.
Transcendental engineering!
Do You built cars or restore old one or meaby You do both?
“Amazing that you can just get in and turn the key and it starts right up” lmao - this is why I drive a Porsche
Beautiful car, thanks for sharing.
Thank you too for taking the time to comment. It is much appreciated.
You are a Master ! And yes, I like the black car wheels much better . They would not fit your car ?
Thank you for your kind words. It would take a lot of time and expense to make the 17 inch Cormodora wheels fit my original Dino 3.2 Restomod. But, I really like the 360 wheels even if they are not period correct. People who don't like them can always fit what they like to their own Dinos. 😉
I'm flattered that you took notice and I hope you weren't offended by my comment. It is of course a remarkable achievement and like I said, something to be proud of. Regards
We are never offended by peoples comments or opinions. We are all different and it nice to consider what people have to say about our restorations.
I'd like to see the same treatment applied to a Porsche 944 and a Maserati Bora, these models should never have been discontinued, an exotic Masa and a practical front engine /rear wheel drive affordable Porsche.
@@anthonyxuereb792 Yes, this treatment could easily be applied to both those classics. At the moment our new program involves upgrading and restomoding Ferrari 308 / 328 to more modern standards of performance and handling along with bore and stroking of the Ferrari V8 engine to 3.8 Litres and 400Bhp. A new film will be produced in the not too distant future. Keep watching.
when you talk about ferrari David Lee is the man
Dude... i always dreamed of building a Dino with a modern engine swaped in or retro-fitting a Motec ecu into something classic... It's just exactly what i would put my money on
We're glad you like it 😊
Loved that Dino piece.
Thank you
incredible job, incredible car. delicius!
Fucking awesome .... ! Well done.
Several other classics can do with this.
Thank you. Yes, we can apply these upgrades to any classic car. visit our website for more details.
Beautiful car, perfect for my lifestyle as an Architect !
All my architect friends drive classic Saab's!! 😉
@noscaryclowns No, my friend Mario 😉
@@mototechnique1282 yuck
I love this car. All the mods look factory. It's so completely, beautifully engineered.
We totally agree with you. Thank you for your comment.
Fantastic car, though when I have the means I’ll ask for a version with slightly more integrated wheel arch extensions (I know I am being extremely picky). What is so wonderful is that it’s quite understated, compact, while having a decent boot for going touring.
Wow that sounds good!! Well done!!
The most beautiful and elegant of all the Ferraris. The only detraction on this machine are the ugly hoops sticking out from the wheel wells. For those who don't know, Alfredo (Dino) Ferrari died at age 24 of Muscular Dystrophy. And the Dino was the first production mid-engine Ferrari.
Thank you for your comment. The fender flares have been made to the exact period correct Ferrari specification that they produced on the Dino 246 "Flairs and Chair" model. Not to everyones taste, but historically correct.
@@mototechnique1282 Thanks for the update. I had never seen them before, only the graceful tapered flairs.
I love the Dino,always have done,Amazing car,wish I had the cash to own one
Price?
Why? The modern sound kills it for me personally, but to each their own. Carburetted is a must. I'm not anti restomod, but this is a car I hold sacred.
Imagining this Beauty to add a nos pfffff fabulous
Thank you for your comment.
beautiful work
Thank you.
I thought the '74 246GTS i had (same color as your car) was perfectly balanced, if I wanted to go faster I have other cars for that. Does the modified car have that same sensuous balance of the original?
Thank you for your comment. Everyone who has previously owned a Dino and is a Ferrari purist have asked exactly the very same question as you and every single one of them (Without fail) that has driven this Dino V8 Restomod have been left in total awe and assured of what we have done. This car does not only respect the original Dino design and philosophy, but it's power, handling and reliability are all enhanced whilst retaining all the charm and character of the original. You really have to drive it to understand it. If you've owned or driven and original factory 2.4 V6, you will feel at home straight away and you'll really get it.
Unfortunately I can't afford the real thing anymore, but have seen a UK kit with a body done from an original, I also like their full convertible,
Di certo questa è tra le 10 auto più belle di tutti i tempi
Grazie.
I’m buying one once I win the lottery.
What a stunner
Thank you.
Man's best friend. Flintstone.
This car is crying to be brought back with thar crazy v6 turbo from the alpha, do it ferrari
Best restmod ever
Thank you. That is a very kind thing to say.
Awh David lee video has 600k views if only people knew where it came from
Wow. What a job
Thank you.😎👍🏼
Fabulous!!
Thank you
Bravo!
Thank you.
a true work of art.
Thank you. We value your comment.
Masterpiece!
So go on then, how much?
I think the ultimate Dino would have a V12 in it. Now that's got me thinking.
やはり世界一のカッコ良さ流石だわね！
A beautiful car, ironic you removed the part that Dino Ferrari was credited with designing.......oops!
The Italians invented it, the English perfected it
and a Californian bought it ...
superb result, Ferrari should be inspired by it
the latest models are ugly
Thank you for your very kind observation 😂🙏🏼
Was the client Mr. David Lee? .......unlimited budget!
They probably had a good reason for using an NA F40 engine, but why not just use a 360 or 430 engine? Same HP on the 360, more with the 430 at a much lower price. Was it physical dimensions of the exterior of the motor?
My guess would also be that it had to do with heritage, seeing as the F40 engine was a direct descendant of the Dino V8, also, packing probably also played a role if I were guessing. I also realize the 360 engine is also based on the Dino V8, but in reality it probably just came down to personal preference