Nilfisk E140 power washer Hose Modification - Removal - Upgrade - pressure washer - How to
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2021
- I was fed up with the absolutely rubbish hose on my Nilfisk E140.3, so decided to find a solution to the problem.
I needed to replace the awful plastic hose, but did not want to simply extend it and have to keep the plastic hose on the reel as this would cause pressure drop.
I discovered that this same machine comes as a Gerni badged machine and as a STIHL, both without a hose reel.
These machines use part number 128500622 to attach a hose directly to the pump.
I purchased a twenty metre hose from Direct Hoses along with the stubby gun shown.
www.directhoses.net/collectio...
This hose fits directly on the new outlet on the machine, completely doing away with the plastic hose.
The beauty of this modification is that it can be reversed completely at any time.
The hose is available from Direct Hoses, this is NOT an affiliate link just an excellent product.
www.directhoses.net/collections/hoses-for-nilfisk-alto-pressure-washers/products/nilfisk-style-rubber-longlife-extension-hose-for-hose-e-series-reel-models
The stubby gun is also available from the same place.
www.directhoses.net/products/nilfisk-c-series-quick-fit-short-trigger-with-quick-fit-nozzles
The part number to search for on Google for the mod is 128500622
Thanks very much duncan
Very well made and useful video thanks. I have been trying to decide between an AVA and this model and the rubbish hose on the Nilfisk makes it an easy decision. AVA
Hello,
Thank you for the kind words, they mean a lot.
I'm glad I could help, I'm sure you'll love your new AVA.
All the best,
Duncan.
I came up with a solution to this which fixes the problem with the original hose. I unwound the full length of hose and tensioned it slightly to keep it straight. I then warmed the full length, a bit at a time with a heat gun. Once I'd finished I left it for a few minutes to cool then let off the tension. It worked! Be careful not to overdo it with the heat gun to avoid weakening the pressure resistance of hose. You're welcome.
Hello Phillip, sorry for the late reply, I've been dealing with a spinal injury.
Sounds like a great idea for saving a few pounds.
If the original length is fine for you, why go to the expense and trouble of changing.
Thanks for your contribution, it will help others that maybe just want to get rid of that annoying coiling problem.
All the best,
Duncan.
Brilliant. Thanks. I have just ordered both thos parts you suggested, the Hose and the adaptor.
My machine is call an E140.4, but i took off the cover and it looks identical. I think the only difference between the E140.3 and the E140.4 is the addition of the Bluetooth trigger on the Lance, which is hopeless, so it is left set on 'Full' and I have a stubby Trigger Gun, and seperate Foam Canon.
Hello Phill,
Thank you and I'm glad I could help.
Sounds like you've got a nice setup now.
All the best,
Duncan.
A list of models that the adaptor will apparantly fit.
E140.3
E145.3
E145.4
E 145 4-9 POWER X-TRA UK
E 145,4-9 P X-TRA ΗΒ
E 145.4-9 PA X-TRA (ΕΕ)
E 145,4-9 PA X-TRA ΗΒ
E 145.4-9 PAD X-TRA Η.Β
E 145,4-9 POWER X-TRA
E 145,4-9 PAD X-TRA
E 145,4-9 X-TRA
E 145.4-9 X-TRA UK
E 150.2-10 H X-TRA (EU)
E 150.2-10 H X-TRA GARDEN (ΕΕ)
E 150.2-10 H X-TRA LUXURY CAR WASH (ΕΕ)
E 150,2-10 H X-TRA ΗΒ
E 150,2-10 PH X-TRA (ΕΕ)
E 150,2-9 P X-TRA
E 150,2-9 P X-TRA ΗΒ
E 150.2-9 X-TRA EU
E 150.2-9 X-TRA UK
E 160.1-10 H X-TRA UK
E 160.1-10 PADH X-TRA (ΕΕ)
E 160.1-10 PH X-TRA (EU)
E160.1-10 H X-TRA EU
Thanks for doing this video. I've hated the OE hose ever since I bought the E140.3 and it's finally got a split in the outer sheath so a good opportunity to change it out. You can get a rubber nilfisk hose that replaces the plastic one as a straight swap, but it's expensive so I've ordered the hose you suggest and found the other part available at North West Power Washers. It'll be great to get back to using a hose that actually lies flat rather than trying to wrap itself round everything.
Hello,
Sorry for the late reply.
How did you get on with it?.
I found my machine to be much more useful after doing this upgrade, wish I had done it sooner.
All the best,
Duncan.
I actually got the hose delivered before the adapter so I just unplugged the lance then added the new hose in tandem and plugged the lance into the end of the new hose, leaving the old hose in situ on the reel. It seems to work fine when cleaning the car so I'm not going to bypass the pld hose and fit the adapter yet as when I wash the patio the old hose will give me an extra 10m which will comevin useful
Hello Adrian,
I did consider doing that, but as I went with the 20 meter hose thought it may cause me to lose too much pressure.
Just out of curiosity, what length hose did you go for?.
All the best,
Duncan.
Hi Duncan, I wanted the 15m hose but it was out of stock so went with the 10m one in the end so effectively have the same length hose as you now (The original 10m plastic supposedly anti kink one with the new 10m reinforced one attached to that) I managed to get the adapter too which I haven't fitted yet so will see how I get on with my existing setup but could always swap to a longer hose later. Once again thanks for doing this video as the original hose has been driving me mad ever since I got my jetwash. Cheers Ade
Thank you, Duncan!
Hello Nicolai,
You're very welcome, glad I could help someone.
All the best,
Duncan.
Awesome video...doing mine ASAP too...Thanks
Hello,
That's excellent, I'm just glad I could help someone.
It's definitely made it into a different machine.
Thank you for the kind words.
All the best,
Duncan.
Thanks Duncan. As you say, their hose quality lets them down badly. Mine recently sprang a leak on an area that continually kinks. . I have a model 140.2, however, didn’t realise it was so different to your 140.3 model. Please note your guide does not apply to the 140.2 model. There are additional clips and T screws to release the blue front cover and when I eventually figured that out and removed it, there is no access to the semi circular water pipe to remove the pin and change the outlet. There is just a cover that cannot be removed from the front side. I think you would have to access via the other side of the machine - removing several parts of the nit first. Not what I had hoped! My gun is also now cracked as I had a real problem releasing the hose connection! So sadly I will have to just replace the gun and hose with a standard Nilfisk and probably do the same again in 4 years time when it break again! Great video though. I will buy an old version next time and do the alteration!
Hello Herby,
Thank you for the kind words, they mean a lot.
If you have a 140.2 it should be even easier to change the hose as it has the straight coupling in the hose reel.
See this part:
www.directhoses.net/products/nilfisk-style-replacment-hose-quick-fit-trigger-hose-reel-connection
Have a look inside your hose reel and remove the hose, does the end match the one on that replacement hose?, if yes then just replace it with that one.
No more plastic rubbish, and they even do a stubby gun to fit.
I hope that is of some help,
All the best,
Duncan.
One more thing, here is the parts manual for your machine
www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fnilfiskdealer.nl%2Famfile%2Ffile%2Fdownload%2Ffile%2F14%2Fproduct%2F26%2F&psig=AOvVaw1tl7KVnN4XI9Pa9j38baBi&ust=1632386730597000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAwQjhxqFwoTCPiF8tGYkvMCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAD
It is possible to convert the hose reel out, using parts made for a model lower down the spec range.
Using parts made for a model without a hose reel it should be possible to remove it completely.
I would check the connection in your reel first though, that way you can just use the hose I suggested before.
All the best,
Duncan.
@@FixedByDuncan Thanks Duncan - Of course - I really am a twit - I didn't think about that! Since I need a new gun anyway, I just connect it all to the main hose reel. I hadn't spotted this upgrade to a rubber hose. It's not cheap, but hopefully it will last a long time. ( You can tell my level of ability!). It looks exactly the same, and the web site states it fits my model so I am going to give it a go! Brilliant.... thanks again. I have subscribed - just in case I find other useful tips. Good luck... All the best Brian
@@FixedByDuncan That's very helpful if I require it - thanks. Will let you know how it goes! All the best Brian
That's fantastic, hope you get it all sorted. It completely transforms the machine, it's amazing how much difference such a simple upgrade can make.
Just make doubly sure that the connections are the same, as you say it is a lot of money.
Thank you for subscribing :)
All the best,
Duncan.
And that Nilfisk adaptor also fit the E145.4 pressure washer which I have.And I can also higly recommend the hose from direct hose Ltd.
Hello Stuart,
That's great info to add, thanks for that.
Hopefully it will help other people looking to do this.
The hoses are just miles better than anything Nilfisk supply, I can't believe I put up with the curly kink prone original for so long.
All the best,
Duncan.
@@FixedByDuncan Using 10mtrs of the Blue/Black Flexiwash rubber hose.
@@stuartandrews4344 Nice, they really are fantastic.
All the best,
Duncan.
Duncan, where did you get the 'outlet insert for quick coupling' from? Appreciate your help.
Hello Nicolai,
If you do a google search for Nilfisk outlet insert quick coupling 128500622
www.google.co.uk/search?q=Nilfisk+outlet+insert+quick+coupling+128500622&hl=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjOy4nItbDxAhUBYcAKHQblAbkQ_AUoAnoECAEQBA&biw=2559&bih=1294
This shows a couple of places to buy it from.
I hope this helps.
All the best,
Duncan.
Hi mate thanks for the video really helpful but. Any idea where I can purchase the outlet insert quick Coupling. I have the dynamic 140.4
Hello,
The only place that I have ever seen selling it in the UK is here
northwestpowerwashers.co.uk/product/nilfisk-outlet-insert-quick-coupling-128500622/
There are suppliers in Europe, but I couldn't get any of them to ship here.
Have you opened your machine to check it will fit?, I would recommend doing so before ordering as some look the same due to the casing but are different inside.
I hope this helps.
All the best,
Duncan.
thank you very much, indeed!
You're very welcome!.
All the best,
Duncan.
Hay mate I have gerni 7300 in Australia, can I change the hose like you did
Hello, I have searched for the parts manual and it looks like the Gerni 7300 is the same internally. However I would take the front panel off to make sure before ordering any parts.
The parts manual can be found here
gerni.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Gerni-7300-Parts-Diagram-Ed3-Locked.pdf
I hope that is of some help.
All the best,
Duncan.
Hi Duncan. Do you know where the non return valve is located in your washer please ? Is it easy to access to it ?
Hello,
Yes, the non return valve is listed as being inside the opening where I placed the new fitting in this video.
I have a parts manual I can email you if that would help?.
All the best,
Duncan.
hi Duncan, Can't believe its been 2 yrs since I carried out the mod. Just need your advice. Used the pressure washer today, how ever while not in use, the adaptor suddenly shot out of its location with the water gushing out under mains pressure. The securing pin was near by. Protruding out of the hole was a spring and a tiny plastic component. Q. How has the retaining clip become detached? Vibration? Any thoughts most welcome. Thanx.
Will investigate myself tomorrow. Regards Pat
Hello Pat,
Wow, has it been that long?! I can't believe it.
I'll be really interested to see what you find tomorrow as I was fairly certain that retaining clip was in there very tight, so I'm stumped.
Must be vibration, can be the only explanation.
Please do come back Pat and let me know what you find, it may help others as well.
All the best,
Duncan.
Great video thank you Duncan. I have the same machine. Recently it’s the water pressure has decreased. Do you know how to service the machine to increase water pressure? No issues with the supply coming from tap. Have run water through machine without hose connected to clear any possible air blocks , but still low on pressure. If you have any suggestions I’d be most appreciative. Many thanks Matt
Hello Matt,
Sorry for the late reply, I've been dealing with a spinal injury.
Has the machine seen a lot of use?, if so maybe it needs new Thrust collars or pistons?.
Hard to say without taking it apart to inspect for wear.
I hope I have been of some help.
All the best,
Duncan.
Thank you kindly for your reply - it was indeed the thrust collars! Which I’ve now replaced and all working fine now. Thanks again, Matt
Hi Matt, that's great that you've got it fixed, thanks for letting me know what it was as it will be helpful for others in the future.
All the best, Duncan.
Another question if I may: would a 20 or 25 m. hose be ok to use?
Hello Nicolai,
I used a 20m hose and there was no drop in pressure whatsoever, so I should imagine a 25m would also be fine.
All the best,
Duncan.
Very informative.
Q. Are you able to completely remove the original hose so to utilise the reel with the replacement? I’m planning to carry out the same mod as my hose is leaking at the gun end crimp. I won’t need therefore, to reverse the mod. It would be great to be able to still use the reel.
Q. I have the D PG 140.4, which has a slightly different front plate otherwise very similar. Do you foresee any problems?
Q. To clarify, does your new hose have a universal quick release at the machine end & a Nilfisk male fitting at the working end, as per the original hose?
Q. Your new gun doesnt seem to require a Nilfisk adapter. Does that mean you ordered this with a Nilfisk specific fitting?
Thank you in advance.
Hello Patrick,
Yes, it is possible to remove the hose from the reel completely. There is a wire clip that can be pulled to release the hose from inside the reel, if you unwind the hose completely you should be able to see it.
cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0208/7184/products/QRChosereelconnectionstraight_4032x.jpg?v=1611329563
Have you removed the front panel to have a look at the housing inside to see if it matches?, this would probably be my first move.
I will try and find a service manual for your model and link it here tomorrow.
The quick release on the new hose is Nilfisk quick release and not universal, it fits nilfisk guns on one end and fits the quick release hose on the other end.
The new gun has a Nilfisk pattern quick release, meaning it could be used with an original Nilfisk hose or the new hose. This is how I purchased it.
www.directhoses.net/products/nilfisk-c-series-quick-fit-short-trigger-with-quick-fit-nozzles
When you remove the hose from your reel, be sure to take a look at the end that comes out. Some models have a fitting that has been replicated and is therefore much easier to replace with a high quality hose.
One of these:
www.directhoses.net/collections/hoses-for-nilfisk-alto-pressure-washers/products/nilfisk-style-replacment-hose-quick-fit-trigger-hose-reel-connection
If your hose has the straight connector like this one, then you can just replace your old hose with this one.
www.cleanstore.co.uk/images/large/13049a.JPG
If your hose has a cranked or bent connector like this, then you can't.
brownspressurewashers.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/9m-E140.3.jpg
The difference can be seen in this image
imgur.com/DY75o3I
I hope I have been of some help.
All the Best,
Duncan.
Hello Patrick,
This parts list is for a d140.2 and it appears to have the same housing as mine, probably still worth taking a look inside though.
www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww2.mersch-reinigungstechnik.de%2Fmedia%2F696%2F116578_b1b00c0c64804e8f8cd07cee4b70a32e.pdf&psig=AOvVaw1jGSxHz3_XiegxjozcquyP&ust=1642194489198000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAwQjhxqFwoTCLCfvavRr_UCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAe
Page 4 is the relevant one.
All the best,
Duncan.
@@FixedByDuncan Thanks Duncan for your prompt and comprehensive reply. I will read and digest tomorrow.
Thanks for the video, Duncan. What hose did you change to?
Hello Laurence,
I used this hose from Direct hoses:
www.directhoses.net/collections/hoses-for-nilfisk-alto-pressure-washers/products/nilfisk-style-rubber-longlife-extension-hose-for-hose-e-series-reel-models
It has the fittings ready to attach to the modified outlet and can still be used with your Nilfisk gun.
I hope this helps.
All the best,
Duncan.
Hey, I have done this modification with my e160, everything seems to go well but won't stop pulsing once switched on, the pressure is all good but won't stop pulsing ever 2 seconds, any ideas?
Hello Aaron,
Sorry for the late reply.
Have you managed to sort this now?.
Water pulsing is usually low water pressure on the supply side, or a slow loss of pressure on the outlet side.
Perhaps have a quick check of o-rings to see if any are damaged?.
I hope this is of some help.
All the best,
Duncan.
Hi can you tell where i can get a replacement hose as i bought the part on the video
Hello John, apologies for the late reply I've been recovering from a spinal injury.
I can see you found the pinned comment.
All the best,
Duncan.
How to use nilfisk as pipe cleaner.
I want yhe hose ditectly connect to sprayer without the gun
Hello,
Sorry for the late reply.
I'm afraid it's not possible to use the hose as a drain cleaner, it wouldn't have enough pressure without the gun.
There is a special drain cleaning hose available, this attaches to the gun and works very well.
All the best,
Duncan.
I have the 160 one, I want to get to the thread m22 is it possible because I want to use a unclogger hose from karcher xD
Hello Samuel,
I have found this adaptor to convert a Nilfisk gun to M22 female thread.
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/333593186817
Or there is an adaptor to connect an M22 thread directly to the machine hose, but this would still need a gun to control the drain cleaner.
www.autobritedirect.co.uk/product/nilfisk-quick-release-short-gun-connector/
I hope this helps,
All the best,
Duncan.
Nice video and well explained! I'm looking to do same mod to mine, however I'm not able to order the parts you listed here in Sweden and therefore have a question about the fitting that connects on the 1628500622 spare part. What's the name of the connector that you attach to the pressure washer?
Hello Hampus,
Thank you for the kind words, they mean a lot.
The part 128500622 is available in Sweden, it can be found here :
www.centralservice.se/outlet-insert-quick-coupling-p-5782.html
The hose has the connector already installed on it, it came from direct hoses and can be ordered worldwide. I am not sure if you can buy the connector from them separately.
If you need anymore help just let me know,
All the best,
Duncan.
@@FixedByDuncan Suprised by the number of models that can use this adaptor.
@@stuartandrews4344 From memory, it also fits some Stihl and Gerni machines as well, crazy.
All the best,
Duncan.
Did you replace your hose aswell Hampus? Looking for a soft loong hose for my Nilfisk, its apitty the TP Hose is not delivered to EU..
@@parstolpediamant3942 No, i was planing to but bought a new pressure washer instead..
I assume your E.140.3 is different from the E.150.2 where the hose disconnects from the reel and it is a simple job to fit a replacement.
Hello Hutton,
Unfortunately, yes. The connector inside the reel is completely different and nobody makes a replacement for it yet.
All the best,
Duncan.
Is the adapter the same for the E145.3 10 model?
Hello,
Apologies for the late reply, I've been recovering from a spinal injury.
I can't say that it is 100 percent, but it seems to be.
The best thing to do is open the front cover of the machine and take a look at the internals, if they look the same as the one in the video then it's a yes.
I hope this helps.
All the best,
Duncan.
What size is the quick release for the hose
Hello,
Sorry for the late reply, I've been dealing with a spinal injury.
I don't know the size from memory, but when I am able to do more I will measure it for you.
All the best,
Duncan.
I got nilfisk E145 to different types can this hose replacement been done on that model
Hello,
Sorry for the late reply.
What is the exact model number of your machine?.
Alternatively, you could remove the front cover. It is very easy to remove, only a couple of screws.
If it looks the same as the one in the video on the inside, then it can be done.
All the best,
Duncan.
Nilfisk e145. 4
Was try to replace hose with quality one from qwashers???
Hello,
If you have a look at this PDF
www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fnorthwestpowerwashers.co.uk%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2020%2F01%2FE140.3-Repair-manual.pdf&psig=AOvVaw1fdBA2wjv9pYXMMJ71pPYp&ust=1664962096730000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CA0QjhxqFwoTCOClsamhxvoCFQAAAAAdAAAAABBA
On page 12 there is an image ( Fig 11 ) of the machine open at the front, if your machine has that brass coloured pipe then you can use the adapter to add a new hose and bypass the hose reel.
It does seem that E145.4 is the same internally from the documents I can find, but it would be wise to open it and have a quick look just to be certain.
I hope this is of some help.
All the best,
Duncan.
Which company did you order the part from, thanks
Hello Peter,
I got the part from this place
northwestpowerwashers.co.uk/product/nilfisk-outlet-insert-quick-coupling-128500622/
Make sure to open and check your machine before buying, as Nilfisk did make other E140s that don't use this part and can just be upgraded from the hose reel.
There should be a link in the description for the hose and gun, if needed.
I hope this helps,
All the best,
Duncan.
@@FixedByDuncan thanks Duncan, will check before I order cause mine is a d140,hoping it's the same as this is an excellent upgrade.
Have looked on the northwest Power washer website and the one it shows doesn't have the quick connect fitting
Hello Peter,
The connector on northwest power washers has a male end that is identical to the quick fit male end of your existing hose that goes in the gun.
The new hose will then have a female end that connects to the new coupler and the other end has the quick fit male to fit in the gun.
If you need any more help or close up photos don't hesitate to ask, I'll be happy to help.
All the best,
Duncan.
That part isn't available any more 😔
Hello Ratspeed Garage,
Oh no, that's not good.
Seems to be still in stock in Sweden, but not UK.
I wonder if they don't want people doing this mod?.
It doesn't look like it would be hard to replicate the part from a brass bar on a lathe, hopefully someone can come up with a solution if this part is not available anymore.
All the best,
Duncan.
@@FixedByDuncan Hi, I ordered the the adapter in Jan 2022 from Northwest as per Duncans advice. I was assured the item would be in stock approx early March on back order from China! I searched every where and managed to track down to Sweden and Holland. I emailed both companies but unfortunately due to Brexit they no longer supply to UK.
*Northwest had offered me a refund if I found another supplier.
👍 The part arrived last week!
I can highly recommend Northwest power washers. Excellent advice and very friendly staff!
25 Feb 2022. Just checked. 1 Adapter in stock!
Hello Patrick,
That's great news, glad you managed to find one.
I had the same problem when trying to buy one from suppliers in europe, all said no due to brexit.
I can also wholeheartedly recommend northwest power washers, excellent service.
Thank you for letting us know.
All the best,
Duncan.
Where can i find the adapter? Webside please:)
Benefits from this upgrade?🙄🤔
Hello,
The benefits are mostly a hose that doesn't kink, coil up and rub itself along the paintwork of your car. Also, the hose length makes your power washer much more versatile and more pleasant to use.
There is also the fact that you can take your pick from not only Nilfisk attachments but also standard quick release attachments ( under chassis washers, extra long lances, generic drain cleaners etc ).
I hope this helps,
All the best,
Duncan.