My training is, as Fausto Coppi said, "Ride the bike......" It works, but I must admit that I have gained 3 lbs. since 1972. Shameful I know. I'm up to 148 lbs. now. I have had 50 bikes during that time, and I rode them all. I'm 77 this year, another 52 years and 50 more bikes should be about right.
You don't need a training plan when you're a natural athlete like yourself, my friend! Great video and some well made points. Good effort with the bike fettling too - my own bike fettling usually ends up with me fettling my way down to an adult (aka bike shop) to fix everything that I've just broken. :)
🤣Thanks, mate. I'm generally okay as long as I stay clear of tinkering with spoke tension - that usually results in getting a grown up to sort the mess out! Must get up to the Lakes soon and will deffo give you a shout when I do to see if you're about 👍
I think the only underestimated thing from just riding one’s bike is that zone 2 steady riding really does work to build endurance. Whatever way one does it, 2-3 hours a week on top of other rides helps a great deal. I do it on a trainer while consuming TV instead of sitting on the sofa. My twopenneth anyway.
Definitely. I really miss cycle commuting for that base building - 7/8 hrs per week sitting at an easy pace, with a few efforts on the ways home for the fun of it.
Not sure I understand the difference between preparing and training, but as long as you arrive at a point where and when you can enjoy the big ride you have planned, then it will be job done in my book. Wishing you well.
Thanks, Norman. Definitely, whatever gets you to the start line and able to enjoy the ride. For me the traing plan is that weekly, structured specific activities leading up to race day or event day, lots of metrics and analysis along the way and maybe top and tailed with a standardised fitness test (ftp etc.). Preparation is more like 'don't do nothing' but much more loosely navigated i suppose and minimal data crunching. It could very well be a splitting hairs distinction though. 🙂
I rode the Hotter than Hell Hundred in Wichita Falls, Texas, twice. 100k one year, then a few years later the100 miles in 100°F heat, last time was August 1976. Each time I thought how amazing this scenery would be without the other 13,000 riders. I could go slower, plan my own schedule. Stop for a beer and make more memories than the wheel in front of me.
Hotter than Hell - what a great (and slightly intimidating) name for a ride! I know what you mean about that experience of just staring at a wheel in front. One of the reasons I'm not a massive fan of club rides, or at least prefer solo trips when pace/stops etc. are whatever you decide. Good to have all the options though for whatever kind of riding you enjoy.
I haven't watched yet but will. Simply I believe yes. I follow a very basic one. One day threshold/VO2 max and the rest Z2 type riding as it burns fat and is also great for long ride's. I usually do 4 sessions @Z2 which includes one long ride circa. 65 miles or so and one session of an hour @Z4/5. I do not enjoy the higher one but it's critical for your VO2 Max which is really important for fitness in old age. My twopenneth anyway 🙂
Thanks for the comment, Brian. Sounds like you've got a nice system/routine worked out there. I suppose another aspect of those Z2 long rides is simply conditioning for time in the saddle - I mean aside from fitness/fat burning it's building up resilience on all the contact points and stress positions and ultimately getting more comfortable on the bike. Happy cycling!
@@onemorecyclist definitely, if you want to do long rides unfortunately you need time in the saddle. I tried just doing the shorter exercises and then long rides but your muscles, knees etc are not conditioned for it , super stiffness followed 🤣
Regarding a training plan - I don’t have, never plan to implement a structured plan of what and when I need to achieve a goal. Just need to put the miles in, eat a good balanced diet and hydration. Would recommend protein shakes afterwards, you’ll feel the benefits on your muscles. Last Friday I went out on a training ride for the black cat sportive on May 26th. I decided on a route across North Wales ascending 8250ft over 107 miles (on Komoot to see as we follow each other). Regularly do 100 plus miles having done 6 this year so far, but I’ve never done that kind of distance with elevation like that. Got to admit I seriously underestimated food resulting in me stopping in a shop to get an emergency bag of jelly babies 😁
Cheers, Paul and enjoy the upcoming Sportive! You've got the miles in the tank for it for sure! I'm rubbish at fuelling properly on day rides and do much better on multi day tours where I find it so much easier to fall into that eat-drink-pedal routine. But these are the things I'll be trying to get right on this one. One should never be too far away from a half pack of Jelly Babies!
hi mate thank you. Yes it's been hard bug can take away from the reason why we got into the sport as well #fun. I do like having goals though and have started planning for next year. when we getting ride in mate ?
Amazing achievement with the Fred, mate. Very inspirational and if anyone's reading this go check out Russ's channel! Hoping to get two or three chilled eve rides in mid-week next week and should be free 8/9 June if any of those are doable your side 👍
I have never, nor will i likely ever get or try to adhere to a training plan. Usually when I go out for rides, I only have a rough idea where I ride, but rarely how long. I just ride for the fun of. I recently went on my first ever group ride, to see where I am at, and while they were way too fast for me on the flats and decents, I had no issues catching up on the climbs. My rides are mainly focused on exploration and trying to keep fit and not to train for a certain goal. At this point I know quite well how far/how much elevation I can do but still try to push myself further (300km is the next one) but I don't train for it ;) But as always, to each their own! Keeping to a training schedule is not for me, mainly because I don't like to do leisure activities on a schedule :)
Really like this approach and it resonates with my own motivations for continuing cycling. Leisure activities on a schedule is a great way of summing up the potential self-defeating side of metrics/training. I do though occasionally get 'captured' (or inspired) by the idea of a particular ride or tour and in this case it's a day ride I'm not quite at the right level to complete. Appreciate the comment and happy cycling!
Only training plan that I've got is to cycle around my local area. Crikey it's hilly enough around here that it's training me without having a distinct plan. All I know is that I need rest/recovery days. I'm at a much lower level than you guys though. I'm also 15 years older and started cycling 16 months ago. My current limit seems to be 130 metres of climb to the mile. I'll try the Shibden climb later this year. No idea if I'll make it up. It probably doesn't matter in the greater scheme of things.
It's actually quite hard to do an easy ride in a hilly area, isn't it. I'd say enjoy Shibden but not sure 'enjoy' is the right word for that one. Fun to try though (being a bit of a local classic!) and in the grand scheme of things ... totally agree with you. Thanks for the comment and happy cycling!
My training is, as Fausto Coppi said, "Ride the bike......" It works, but I must admit that I have gained 3 lbs. since 1972.
Shameful I know.
I'm up to 148 lbs. now.
I have had 50 bikes during that time, and I rode them all. I'm 77 this year, another 52 years and 50 more bikes should be about right.
You don't need a training plan when you're a natural athlete like yourself, my friend! Great video and some well made points. Good effort with the bike fettling too - my own bike fettling usually ends up with me fettling my way down to an adult (aka bike shop) to fix everything that I've just broken. :)
🤣Thanks, mate. I'm generally okay as long as I stay clear of tinkering with spoke tension - that usually results in getting a grown up to sort the mess out! Must get up to the Lakes soon and will deffo give you a shout when I do to see if you're about 👍
Good video lovely scenery just like Ireland great to get out on the bike.
Cheers, Sean. Yep, always a good day if I've managed to get a bike ride in! 🙂
I think the only underestimated thing from just riding one’s bike is that zone 2 steady riding really does work to build endurance. Whatever way one does it, 2-3 hours a week on top of other rides helps a great deal. I do it on a trainer while consuming TV instead of sitting on the sofa. My twopenneth anyway.
Definitely. I really miss cycle commuting for that base building - 7/8 hrs per week sitting at an easy pace, with a few efforts on the ways home for the fun of it.
Not sure I understand the difference between preparing and training, but as long as you arrive at a point where and when you can enjoy the big ride you have planned, then it will be job done in my book. Wishing you well.
Thanks, Norman. Definitely, whatever gets you to the start line and able to enjoy the ride. For me the traing plan is that weekly, structured specific activities leading up to race day or event day, lots of metrics and analysis along the way and maybe top and tailed with a standardised fitness test (ftp etc.). Preparation is more like 'don't do nothing' but much more loosely navigated i suppose and minimal data crunching. It could very well be a splitting hairs distinction though. 🙂
I rode the Hotter than Hell Hundred in Wichita Falls, Texas, twice.
100k one year, then a few years later the100 miles in 100°F heat, last time was August 1976.
Each time I thought how amazing this scenery would be without the other 13,000 riders.
I could go slower, plan my own schedule. Stop for a beer and make more memories than the wheel in front of me.
Hotter than Hell - what a great (and slightly intimidating) name for a ride! I know what you mean about that experience of just staring at a wheel in front. One of the reasons I'm not a massive fan of club rides, or at least prefer solo trips when pace/stops etc. are whatever you decide. Good to have all the options though for whatever kind of riding you enjoy.
I haven't watched yet but will. Simply I believe yes.
I follow a very basic one. One day threshold/VO2 max and the rest Z2 type riding as it burns fat and is also great for long ride's. I usually do 4 sessions @Z2 which includes one long ride circa. 65 miles or so and one session of an hour @Z4/5.
I do not enjoy the higher one but it's critical for your VO2 Max which is really important for fitness in old age.
My twopenneth anyway 🙂
Thanks for the comment, Brian. Sounds like you've got a nice system/routine worked out there. I suppose another aspect of those Z2 long rides is simply conditioning for time in the saddle - I mean aside from fitness/fat burning it's building up resilience on all the contact points and stress positions and ultimately getting more comfortable on the bike. Happy cycling!
@@onemorecyclist definitely, if you want to do long rides unfortunately you need time in the saddle. I tried just doing the shorter exercises and then long rides but your muscles, knees etc are not conditioned for it , super stiffness followed 🤣
Regarding a training plan - I don’t have, never plan to implement a structured plan of what and when I need to achieve a goal. Just need to put the miles in, eat a good balanced diet and hydration. Would recommend protein shakes afterwards, you’ll feel the benefits on your muscles. Last Friday I went out on a training ride for the black cat sportive on May 26th. I decided on a route across North Wales ascending 8250ft over 107 miles (on Komoot to see as we follow each other). Regularly do 100 plus miles having done 6 this year so far, but I’ve never done that kind of distance with elevation like that. Got to admit I seriously underestimated food resulting in me stopping in a shop to get an emergency bag of jelly babies 😁
Cheers, Paul and enjoy the upcoming Sportive! You've got the miles in the tank for it for sure! I'm rubbish at fuelling properly on day rides and do much better on multi day tours where I find it so much easier to fall into that eat-drink-pedal routine. But these are the things I'll be trying to get right on this one. One should never be too far away from a half pack of Jelly Babies!
hi mate thank you. Yes it's been hard bug can take away from the reason why we got into the sport as well #fun. I do like having goals though and have started planning for next year. when we getting ride in mate ?
Amazing achievement with the Fred, mate. Very inspirational and if anyone's reading this go check out Russ's channel! Hoping to get two or three chilled eve rides in mid-week next week and should be free 8/9 June if any of those are doable your side 👍
@@onemorecyclist I’ll be out next week mate. Will be doing Tuesday and Thursday evening. Will probably do the cragg loop if you fancy that
Sounds good. Will aim to give you a shout for Thurs 👍
Without watching video no is answer, movement exercises will make you fitter regardless
I have never, nor will i likely ever get or try to adhere to a training plan. Usually when I go out for rides, I only have a rough idea where I ride, but rarely how long. I just ride for the fun of. I recently went on my first ever group ride, to see where I am at, and while they were way too fast for me on the flats and decents, I had no issues catching up on the climbs. My rides are mainly focused on exploration and trying to keep fit and not to train for a certain goal. At this point I know quite well how far/how much elevation I can do but still try to push myself further (300km is the next one) but I don't train for it ;)
But as always, to each their own! Keeping to a training schedule is not for me, mainly because I don't like to do leisure activities on a schedule :)
Really like this approach and it resonates with my own motivations for continuing cycling. Leisure activities on a schedule is a great way of summing up the potential self-defeating side of metrics/training. I do though occasionally get 'captured' (or inspired) by the idea of a particular ride or tour and in this case it's a day ride I'm not quite at the right level to complete. Appreciate the comment and happy cycling!
Only training plan that I've got is to cycle around my local area. Crikey it's hilly enough around here that it's training me without having a distinct plan. All I know is that I need rest/recovery days. I'm at a much lower level than you guys though. I'm also 15 years older and started cycling 16 months ago. My current limit seems to be 130 metres of climb to the mile. I'll try the Shibden climb later this year. No idea if I'll make it up. It probably doesn't matter in the greater scheme of things.
It's actually quite hard to do an easy ride in a hilly area, isn't it. I'd say enjoy Shibden but not sure 'enjoy' is the right word for that one. Fun to try though (being a bit of a local classic!) and in the grand scheme of things ... totally agree with you. Thanks for the comment and happy cycling!
My local route pal , some good circuits around there .
Yes it's a great place to have as our cycling backyard. 🙂
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