I can definitely see his point. As much as I'd like to see more in the invincible universe, having it turn into something that drags on long after it should have ended, with Kirkman churning out more chapters just for the sake of it would turn it into just yet another series that goes on forever for no real reason other than money
Consider invincible final issue all his plans for other issues was put into as a montage what Was original plan invincible daughter sooner later took over.
I respect his decision. With so many franchises these days that just beat their dead horses until it's dust, it's refreshing to see someone tell their story and then move on from it. Sure it's hard to make something that's as popular as your previous work, but that's the point of art. Always try to make something original even if you're the only one who likes it.
As cool as I think an Invincible extended universe would be, I have to concede that all the major stories have been told and have been concluded satisfactorily. I don’t see how the story could continue to develop in as meaningful a way as it has without retreading old ground. What’s really left? Invincible-clone-robot hopping universes as a multiversal conqueror? Why would he do that? The adventures of Markie on earth? That would be neat but what kind of real threat would Markie face anyways? Nothing that Invincible hadn’t already beaten or couldn’t crush with his empire. The adventures of his daughter in the peace corps? We already know that she settles into her role as Invincibles ambassador after his war with the coalition, so what story is there left to tell?
Reading Invincible made me feel like I was reading a manga, it had a linear narrative and a conclusion to it like in most mangas that had a definite end. It was something different compared to Marvel and DC titles that are still going on with more stories and retcons that may be overwhelming to some readers.
Invincible is the closest thing to Japanese manga in the west. So far the show is the only one ive seen that closely follows the comic without just using at as a reference and doing its own thing like the MCU, which is exactly like an anime adaptation of a manga.
It's literally one of the only western comics I've finished, the other one is Watchmen, and I guess Calvin and Hobbes because they have an end like most manga series, and I'd prefer if they keep it that way. Compare this to corpo comics with a bajillion writers, and why there are a bajillion stories.
I think it's more in the style of old Saturday cartoon mixed with kirkmans writing. I can tolerate mangas more than invincible sometimes since it can be too wordy at times
I agree with Robert Kirkman despite all the possible stories in invincible that could be told it’s good to have a series that just ends. And I think this sentiment has aged like wine in this age of decade spanning franchises and cinematic multiverses.
All stories seem to have diminishing returns purely because the creators switch hands like Kirkman pointed out. Perfect case in point is the status of Supergirl in comics today versus her heyday during 2005-2011. She is a shadow of her former self who has arguably less drama to deal with than her previous incarnation yet is arguably more moody and sullen than ever. Her 2005-2011 self was more happy and was only moody on occasion.
Look up Post Crisis Supergirl or 2005-2006 supergirl comics online. After the Batman/Superman adventure to save her from Darkseid corrupting her, she got her own comic in either 2005 or 2006 that greatly expanded upon her character.
Google Supergirl 2005 getcomics. That is arguably the best source. Enjoy! Amazons Attacks is a great one and is a crossover that seamlessly connects all title issues (including Supergirl) so that you fully understand the gravity of the situation... without which you won't. Also, Brainiac (shorter) New Krypton and it's finale War of the Supermen are similarly crossovers that help you understand core events in Post Crisis Supergirl's life.
Honestly, I just hope we get more comics like Invincible in the future. Whether it be in or outside of that universe. We need more serialized western comic book stories with narrative progression and compelling characters. It’s what I’ve always loved about Ultimate Spiderman as well. I think that if you wanna read more comics like Invincible, check out Radiant Black and a few of its spin offs
Reading Invincible makes you realize how much command Robert Kirkman has of Superhero fiction, the cliches that come with them and the comic book format in general. Every time I thought he would go the usual route, he did something far more shocking and interesting without it being the usual mean spirited and "subversive" garbage everyone loves doing, it makes sense for his world of Superhero's and themes he tackles.
@@OmoshiSage just seeing one of my fictional favorite characters have a ending. No more worries about retconing and having to watch them go through a living hell, knowing that it will never end even when my grand children’s grand children are buried. Just having a story end because that’s the way the creator wanted it to go and Mark’s story ends here
I don't want it to continue. One of the things I like about Invincible is that it has a definitive end. The story is about Mark and him becoming the hero he wants to be. The journey to that goal is the main attraction. He wants to be an invincible hero that saves all, but what does that even mean? Never killing? To always uphold a broken status quo that doesn't serve the weak? To serve the interests of his country, planet, race or himself? We just got the answers to all these questions. You might not like the answers, but we got them. All the other stuff like Terra, Marky, Angstrom's son, etc. are world building elements. They exist to make the world more interesting, but they aren't the main point of the story. Mark is. And we got it. The end. And, please, let it be.
I mean the Invincible Manga/comic ended. but the whole reason it did was so that it didn't go stale I personally love the fact Robert Kirkman did what he wanted to do he is an amazing writer who just had mature themes that he wanted to explain to people and it ended on a very high note that I personally believe is quite fitting. People need to learn to continue a series as beautiful Invincible would come with backlash and would not be as fitting let something that is as amazing as that story end the way he wanted it to. for example Spider-Man has been running for over 50 years never ending which has caused him to run Stale they should've ended his story a while ago let Invincible rest in peace his story has reached his climax and end just as it always should've been.
This is what comics need, a consistent story with an ending. There're way too many writers in Marvel/DC with no type of consistency to the stories, just different writers with different interpretations of the characters and cosmology, this is why DC and Marvel should be left out of crossover Vs discussions too.
Man, don't reduce Markie like that. Markie's focus was also intergalactic in his quadrant of the universe and got his superhero start MUCH earlier than Terra and Mark. Mark even stated that he surpassed him in every way. Terra just grew up spoiled living as a princess doing spoiled light work like peace corps missions.
That’s how I want to do it I want to release the comic and when it gets on the show, I wanted to be 5 seasons and end it. No multi-verse stories nothing just end the series after season five and live on like Dragon Ball Z before super came out except it won’t be another series and no I’m not doing no live action 💯
@@OmoshiSageyes let's exploit more overworked cg artists so that we can release a dumbed down remake that drops all of the advantages that come with 2D animation
I think the decision to have the comic end is great and makes it feel like a complete narrative and doesn't have the story drag on. However I think it would still be cool to see more of the invincible universe so I think short stories that add background to already existing characters or give us a glimpse of the future of that world or even alternate dimensions could be a interesting way to give fans more invincible without dragging out the story and making it never ending.
I heard that Kirkman ended Invincible because Ryan Ottley wanted to work on different series? Because you can clearly see there are more stories in Invincible Universe to be told.
Good for him for sticking to his guns on that. Mainstream western comics are a mega drag to get into, cause you're always reading about Spiderman being poor and without a romantic partner 20 times over, or Batman ever struggling to cope with being Batman and/or being happy, meanwhile the Joker does what he wants all the damn time. Nothing ever changes or evolves, it must always return to the status quo. The best thing about reading a novel is the bloody journey and that includes the ending, that's what makes it satisfying. Loved the comic when I read it a few years ago, and I love it even more now due to it staying done, it had a story to tell, told it and wrapped up. Fucking beautiful.
The main difference with comics and manga is that usually manga stories end. Its makes them feels more substantial but still easy to get into. Especially with how convoluted and messy marvel and dc comics can be with different timelines, interlocking stories, events, multiverses, and retreading established continuity.
Robert Kirkman is right. A series needs to end... But It's Invincible, soooo... May be just a mini comic-series of 12 issues that turns into an "Invincible Legacy" movie sequel to the show many years later, after the ongoing tv show ends(obviously)?? :)
I hope Robert sticks to his guns and leaves the comics where they are. They’re already amazing and don’t really need continuing. I just hope people don’t try to bully or pressure him into it just because it’s popular now.
Invincible is a masterpiece with an ending. If they moved onto a sequel and milked it for money, the series would become fleshed out and it would get old quickly. If the show has a proper end, it will easily be a 10/10
What I would love to see is more characters of the Invincible universe getting their own comics...to greatly expand their stories (such as The Guardians of the Globe) - heck, let's also have more stories of the well known characters, such as expanding on the lives of Omni-Man, Black Samson, Rex Splode, Dupli-Kate, Robot, Monster Girl, Telia, etc. Another thing that can work is having a comic book series about Invincible's interference with the timeline - seeing how everything could have gone if The Guardians of the Globe survived: would Mark and Eve still end up together; would Oliver still be born; would Rex Splode still sacrifice himself; would Robot still betray his friends and loved ones; would the virus still be created; would Telia have a bigger role; would Anisa still die in the end? Another thing that could work is allowing Invincible to officially be part of the Image Universe, so other characters of the franchise can make crossovers appearances.
The most kirkman thing to do would be to come back with invincible returns 2,then follow it up with an atom eve series or a sequel series with a different name 😅
He needs to make a continuation because he needs to prove Invincible can beat Superman. Otherwise, he must admit that he was talking out of his ass when he said Invincible can beat Superman.
The only thing I can think of it ever working is the life between Marky and the journey of his sister in space. But leaving out Mark and Eve out of the picture just being the supportive cast. But there will never be an after.
I want to see more Invincible, but he makes a good point. The Kung Fu Panda movies are a great example that prove his point. The third movie should've been the ending of Kung Fu Panda.
I hope we never get a continuation. I read Invincible in real-time and ill never forget reading that last issue. It was perfect, tied up the plotlines from the main series and teased years worth of content with its ending. It felt like a live-universe that would continue forvever instead of being rebooted every 10 years.
There so many ips that just never end until it literally turns to shit and withers away as the creative form they once had gets removed further and farther away. Letting a show end when it’s ready to narratively is definitely the way to go, unless the creators are able to continue that world in a new light that aligns with the shows original values, or substantially changes it’s focus so it can be almost a completely separate entity that just happens to share the same world building
I think possibly having stand-alone or anthology short series going into details on these other stories. I loved the comics, and I very much enjoy that it DID end, but having stories set within that universe could be pretty neat as the stories could be loosely tied into the comics are even entirely separate.
The epilogue was amazing, and I'd rather they'd NOT continue it since the only western comics I've read and _want_ to read are those with an actual ending, like Invincible and Watchmen.
Remember, Thragg said that it wasn mediatory to procreate with humans, so why would be not follow his own rules, 2 imagine an alternate reality, that Thragg procreated with Anissa 💀
@@JackseyezAs if they can do anything, lmao. Thragg is a little bit stronger than Battle Beast but he was force to exile just because of a few dozen of Viltrumite. With the number of Viltrumite after 500 years, Battle Beast's daughter never stood a chance. Beside, even Rex in the last arc was still unable to create a robot that's as trong as a Viltrumite, so it doesn't really matter. The only thing back is Levy's son, but i doubt he could do anything.
As nice as they would be I see why he left so many dangling threads. It was an homage to how comic stories never really end, there is always some new villian or story arc pending. I doubt he even actually intended to bring up any of those plotlines again. But if he ever did it would still be interesting.
I'm kinda interested in what the invinci-kids are gonna do, but the book would be so far flung in the future it would be very much like a _space opera_ and most folks I don't think would relate to it as much. Lightening doesn't often strike twice. I'd still buy the hell out of that book because he has a good handle on writing both genders. Like in the first season, I know everyone hated Amber, but I got why she felt the way she did. Plus that whole thing with... He's just overall a pretty ok writer that really knows how to write to his strengths. Good video!
Ryan Ottley is working on a secret project with Kirkman, so who knows what that may be. I think a self-contained spinoff is a better call that a straight-up "Invincible 2" sequel.
If I said he didn't have a point I would be lying but after everything you just said if the comic continues and eventually becomes an animated series it’s gonna be epic
in order for it to stay relevant, any progress spider-man gets in happiness or growth as a character, it get ripped away by the next author that takes the mantle. they cuck spider-man, erase the marriage and happy life he has. honestly, they should have ended spider-man long ago. same said of all of the super hero main series. they never grow up. they are perpetually in torment.
As someone that liked the ending, sure Im curious about what the future would look lije in that universe but, I dont really wanna see it. The story of Mark could be considered to have ended and thats what I was there for and the rest is just somerhing I can wonder about from time to time.
Well, if he wanted the series to just end, why did he leave so many cliffhangers? I’m not talking about another series but just one last story arc to wrap things up in a nice little bow.
There is a good chance that Amazon may pull the plug on the show and something else could go wrong and then Robbie boy has a change of heart and maybe continues it.
Amazon pulling the plug on one of the most well received animated shows in the last couple of years With characters being already introduced in other franchises (Mortal Kombat 1) The day Amazon cancels invincible is same day homelander beats Omni man 😂 (which is never)
@@jr1212-es9bp Oh please Omni-Crap fanboy. MK1 has problems that the fans keep calling out. How long did TWD last? It could've went longer than 11 seasons but it obviously went down hill now shut up.
@@Khalfrank There’s no way a sane individual just compared the walking dead to the hit animated show invincible 😂🤦🏾♂️ And used a live action show to an already well received animated series with heaps of action packed and intriguing story with enough material to make 5-6 seasons 🤷♂️😂 Read the comics we still haven’t got to viltrumite war, Thragg vs Omni and invincible, invincible vs invincibles of Other timelines, Dinosaurus, threxa attack, conquest vs invincible, Nolan and Allen adventures, angstrom levy, evil robot, coalition of planets vs viltrumites, viltrumites living on earth, Battle beast vs thragg, Nolan becoming king 👑, 🤷♂️ and many more action packed storyline’s 🤷♂️😂 The fact you compared Twd to invincible is just plain idiotic and funny 😂 and I’m just gonna assume your trolling
Sometimes you just have to end a story, people want to drag stories on until it gets weaker and then the audience can complain then compare it to when things were good.
Looks like he learned this lesson about ending a story with twd comic. The ending is horrible and you can see that he just finished it like that because he was already too tired and without any decent story to tell anymore. All that part of Carl crying saying he is tired and stuff was literally the creator himself admiting he was tired of that story.
I hope he doesn't continues it. The message of the original series is perfect as is. There's no need for more. The whole series is critical of how superhero stories have become void of purpose as they just prolong the status quo.
Doesn't have to go on forever. Just a few comics to rap up loose ends or a few "what if" style comics that touch on the other universes. Personally, as much as I love the comics, I don't want them to go on forever either but fans of any kind of media hate ending a series on a cliffhanger or just having a bunch of loose ends. End it on a good satisfying note before some years down the line someone else gets a hold of the rights and ruins it with a shitty sequel.
Which is hilarious in contrast to the adaptations of his other work TWD which is on what its 5th fucking spin-off? AMC never letting that money pot conclude.
I get Robert point of having story end but after reading all the comics these past two days he left so many cliff hangers for the story. If he truly wanted the story to end he shouldn’t of gave the fans hope of more content in the future with levy son robot maybe coming back war between siblings Markus and terra there is so much more story to be told. So it’s not really fair of him to just stop it all. And there is good story between Markus and terra war arc plus thragg had many many children one of them probably have traits of the father
If you read the comics then I don't know where you get this potential war between Marky and Terra from, the only panel in which any conflict between those two happen is the one with Terra being mad with Marky for breaking her space Ipad when se was teenager, like what are you on about mate? Unless I missed out on a particular issue or spin off, you seem to be day dreaming about stuff you made up in your mind. Invincible's story is pretty tightly done, Robot wasn't even teased to come back, he was left alone, sad and defeated as a lonely brain. Abandoned by everyone he ever loved and forever stuck as a machine of sorts, that's as tight an ending as can be.
@@richardsantosgarcia8972 terra said in the last comic she wanted split off with the peace corps because they’re called mark hypocrite for starting a war, and with marky reconciled with his father mark at the end I believe marky will take the father side while terra won’t and let’s say mark dies the two would have civil war between them. With robot I never said the one trapped in the jar but the one in other dimension with marks body. Robot could come back to start a war and then probably mark would need his robot help to find way to defeat himself aka him returning into the fold. Levy son will probably get his revenge and maybe kill mark and then all Hell could break loose.
@@fireliar123 Except, in just a few panels after that attempt at splitting up from the empire, it's strongly hinted they made up when Eve was about to "die". Hell, in the final image of the comics Terra is right there sunbathing like nothing happened lmao
I actually like open ended ending.not everything should be answered. And the build up for new stories makes the world more alive. Its doasnt start and end whit out heros .its will continue on and on
Never have I seen a never ending fiction as that if comics. Mangas end, novels end, franchises end and yet comics still churn out dogshit after dogshit.
My favorite stories are those with a good beginning a great ending and that stays consistent through out the series. Revivals and unnecessary sequels show a lack of imagination. Whatever ideas of villains and story-lines I might have could just be turned into it's own thing an be part of a new franchise.
to me kirkmans lying the entire ending seems less like the lord of the rings and more like a Star Wars it doesnt seem like this concise ending where its just done its obviously set up to create something more each of those plot points does not spell out a wrapped up ending its more a how much would I get to continue this
im begging you get a new avatar, commission someone, use ai whatever i like your content but i cant take anything you say seriously with that 2011 naruto god oc avatar
I liked the comic book. The cartoon doesn't really do it justice in my opinion. My thoughts on Invincible continuing is that they could definitely expand the universe. I was hoping for a spinoff series. But it seems unlikely as they've only put out a few one shot comics set in the Invincible universe.
When characters stay dead like in invincible , so does the comic has to end eventually. you cant pump out cool characters flawlessly it would get stale like marverl and dc have over time and pulling reboots and retreading waters differently makes the privilege of the content become meh, look at star wars. when i was a kid star wars was special thing and then it kept going to 2023 and now its a joke
I can definitely see his point. As much as I'd like to see more in the invincible universe, having it turn into something that drags on long after it should have ended, with Kirkman churning out more chapters just for the sake of it would turn it into just yet another series that goes on forever for no real reason other than money
It’s be way better than rebooting the series, making it worse than the original, BEN 10!!!
Also wait didn’t he make the walking dead? Isn’t that franchise still going?
@@gameframeinc.3389 the show is, he ended the comics well over a year ago.
Consider invincible final issue all his plans for other issues was put into as a montage what Was original plan invincible daughter sooner later took over.
Cough cough one piece
I respect his decision. With so many franchises these days that just beat their dead horses until it's dust, it's refreshing to see someone tell their story and then move on from it.
Sure it's hard to make something that's as popular as your previous work, but that's the point of art. Always try to make something original even if you're the only one who likes it.
As cool as I think an Invincible extended universe would be, I have to concede that all the major stories have been told and have been concluded satisfactorily. I don’t see how the story could continue to develop in as meaningful a way as it has without retreading old ground. What’s really left? Invincible-clone-robot hopping universes as a multiversal conqueror? Why would he do that? The adventures of Markie on earth? That would be neat but what kind of real threat would Markie face anyways? Nothing that Invincible hadn’t already beaten or couldn’t crush with his empire. The adventures of his daughter in the peace corps? We already know that she settles into her role as Invincibles ambassador after his war with the coalition, so what story is there left to tell?
There are a couple of invincible spin offs you can read but they all ended with invincible
Forgot to mention markie face invincible arch enemy had a son
Reading Invincible made me feel like I was reading a manga, it had a linear narrative and a conclusion to it like in most mangas that had a definite end. It was something different compared to Marvel and DC titles that are still going on with more stories and retcons that may be overwhelming to some readers.
Invincible is the closest thing to Japanese manga in the west.
So far the show is the only one ive seen that closely follows the comic without just using at as a reference and doing its own thing like the MCU, which is exactly like an anime adaptation of a manga.
It's literally one of the only western comics I've finished, the other one is Watchmen, and I guess Calvin and Hobbes because they have an end like most manga series, and I'd prefer if they keep it that way.
Compare this to corpo comics with a bajillion writers, and why there are a bajillion stories.
Ultimate SPIDER-MAN had a satisfactory ending
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks of it.
I think it's more in the style of old Saturday cartoon mixed with kirkmans writing. I can tolerate mangas more than invincible sometimes since it can be too wordy at times
I agree with Robert Kirkman despite all the possible stories in invincible that could be told it’s good to have a series that just ends. And I think this sentiment has aged like wine in this age of decade spanning franchises and cinematic multiverses.
All stories seem to have diminishing returns purely because the creators switch hands like Kirkman pointed out. Perfect case in point is the status of Supergirl in comics today versus her heyday during 2005-2011. She is a shadow of her former self who has arguably less drama to deal with than her previous incarnation yet is arguably more moody and sullen than ever. Her 2005-2011 self was more happy and was only moody on occasion.
Can you point me to said comics? I'd love to check it out
Look up Post Crisis Supergirl or 2005-2006 supergirl comics online. After the Batman/Superman adventure to save her from Darkseid corrupting her, she got her own comic in either 2005 or 2006 that greatly expanded upon her character.
@@A-man-ix4kz thank you 😁
Google Supergirl 2005 getcomics. That is arguably the best source. Enjoy!
Amazons Attacks is a great one and is a crossover that seamlessly connects all title issues (including Supergirl) so that you fully understand the gravity of the situation... without which you won't.
Also, Brainiac (shorter) New Krypton and it's finale War of the Supermen are similarly crossovers that help you understand core events in Post Crisis Supergirl's life.
Honestly, I just hope we get more comics like Invincible in the future. Whether it be in or outside of that universe. We need more serialized western comic book stories with narrative progression and compelling characters. It’s what I’ve always loved about Ultimate Spiderman as well.
I think that if you wanna read more comics like Invincible, check out Radiant Black and a few of its spin offs
I don't want to admit it but Kirkman is right but a continuation would have been great 😢
yeah end up like Boruto
@@iloveindonesia69 don’t compare garbage to a masterpiece
@@lordmarkquad4470 I'm kind of afraid if Amazon making invincible legacy
Reading Invincible makes you realize how much command Robert Kirkman has of Superhero fiction, the cliches that come with them and the comic book format in general. Every time I thought he would go the usual route, he did something far more shocking and interesting without it being the usual mean spirited and "subversive" garbage everyone loves doing, it makes sense for his world of Superhero's and themes he tackles.
God bless Robert Kirkman I’m so happy to hear those words come from his mouth😂
Why?
@@OmoshiSage just seeing one of my fictional favorite characters have a ending. No more worries about retconing and having to watch them go through a living hell, knowing that it will never end even when my grand children’s grand children are buried. Just having a story end because that’s the way the creator wanted it to go and Mark’s story ends here
I don't want it to continue.
One of the things I like about Invincible is that it has a definitive end.
The story is about Mark and him becoming the hero he wants to be.
The journey to that goal is the main attraction.
He wants to be an invincible hero that saves all, but what does that even mean?
Never killing? To always uphold a broken status quo that doesn't serve the weak? To serve the interests of his country, planet, race or himself?
We just got the answers to all these questions. You might not like the answers, but we got them.
All the other stuff like Terra, Marky, Angstrom's son, etc. are world building elements. They exist to make the world more interesting, but they aren't the main point of the story.
Mark is. And we got it. The end. And, please, let it be.
I mean the Invincible Manga/comic ended. but the whole reason it did was so that it didn't go stale I personally love the fact Robert Kirkman did what he wanted to do he is an amazing writer who just had mature themes that he wanted to explain to people and it ended on a very high note that I personally believe is quite fitting. People need to learn to continue a series as beautiful Invincible would come with backlash and would not be as fitting let something that is as amazing as that story end the way he wanted it to. for example Spider-Man has been running for over 50 years never ending which has caused him to run Stale they should've ended his story a while ago let Invincible rest in peace his story has reached his climax and end just as it always should've been.
This is what comics need, a consistent story with an ending. There're way too many writers in Marvel/DC with no type of consistency to the stories, just different writers with different interpretations of the characters and cosmology, this is why DC and Marvel should be left out of crossover Vs discussions too.
Man, don't reduce Markie like that. Markie's focus was also intergalactic in his quadrant of the universe and got his superhero start MUCH earlier than Terra and Mark. Mark even stated that he surpassed him in every way. Terra just grew up spoiled living as a princess doing spoiled light work like peace corps missions.
I mean, Markie's mother is a full-blooded Viltrumite (a strong one), after all.
That’s how I want to do it I want to release the comic and when it gets on the show, I wanted to be 5 seasons and end it. No multi-verse stories nothing just end the series after season five and live on like Dragon Ball Z before super came out except it won’t be another series and no I’m not doing no live action 💯
You had me before you said no live-action 👀
@@OmoshiSageyes let's exploit more overworked cg artists so that we can release a dumbed down remake that drops all of the advantages that come with 2D animation
I think the decision to have the comic end is great and makes it feel like a complete narrative and doesn't have the story drag on. However I think it would still be cool to see more of the invincible universe so I think short stories that add background to already existing characters or give us a glimpse of the future of that world or even alternate dimensions could be a interesting way to give fans more invincible without dragging out the story and making it never ending.
2:02 Oh! Praise the Lord for rob Kirkman🙏
Lol
I heard that Kirkman ended Invincible because Ryan Ottley wanted to work on different series? Because you can clearly see there are more stories in Invincible Universe to be told.
Good for him for sticking to his guns on that. Mainstream western comics are a mega drag to get into, cause you're always reading about Spiderman being poor and without a romantic partner 20 times over, or Batman ever struggling to cope with being Batman and/or being happy, meanwhile the Joker does what he wants all the damn time. Nothing ever changes or evolves, it must always return to the status quo. The best thing about reading a novel is the bloody journey and that includes the ending, that's what makes it satisfying. Loved the comic when I read it a few years ago, and I love it even more now due to it staying done, it had a story to tell, told it and wrapped up. Fucking beautiful.
The main difference with comics and manga is that usually manga stories end. Its makes them feels more substantial but still easy to get into. Especially with how convoluted and messy marvel and dc comics can be with different timelines, interlocking stories, events, multiverses, and retreading established continuity.
Most comics end to.
Robert Kirkman is right. A series needs to end...
But It's Invincible, soooo...
May be just a mini comic-series of 12 issues that turns into an "Invincible Legacy" movie sequel to the show many years later, after the ongoing tv show ends(obviously)?? :)
I hope Robert sticks to his guns and leaves the comics where they are. They’re already amazing and don’t really need continuing. I just hope people don’t try to bully or pressure him into it just because it’s popular now.
But.....but.....he made up such bad ass heros and villans!
Exactly
I think he just doesn't want Invincible to go down the same route that Walking Dead did.
Invincible is a masterpiece with an ending. If they moved onto a sequel and milked it for money, the series would become fleshed out and it would get old quickly. If the show has a proper end, it will easily be a 10/10
as much as id LOVE a continuation of Invincible, I see his point. It ended in a great way
Invincible tv series finale:
_Cuts to black_
"End of Part 1: Viltrumite Arc"
Though I make fan fics for franchises that have ended and I go by the book with them I understand what this author is trying to say
What I would love to see is more characters of the Invincible universe getting their own comics...to greatly expand their stories (such as The Guardians of the Globe) - heck, let's also have more stories of the well known characters, such as expanding on the lives of Omni-Man, Black Samson, Rex Splode, Dupli-Kate, Robot, Monster Girl, Telia, etc. Another thing that can work is having a comic book series about Invincible's interference with the timeline - seeing how everything could have gone if The Guardians of the Globe survived: would Mark and Eve still end up together; would Oliver still be born; would Rex Splode still sacrifice himself; would Robot still betray his friends and loved ones; would the virus still be created; would Telia have a bigger role; would Anisa still die in the end?
Another thing that could work is allowing Invincible to officially be part of the Image Universe, so other characters of the franchise can make crossovers appearances.
The most kirkman thing to do would be to come back with invincible returns 2,then follow it up with an atom eve series or a sequel series with a different name 😅
He needs to make a continuation because he needs to prove Invincible can beat Superman. Otherwise, he must admit that he was talking out of his ass when he said Invincible can beat Superman.
The only thing I can think of it ever working is the life between Marky and the journey of his sister in space. But leaving out Mark and Eve out of the picture just being the supportive cast. But there will never be an after.
I want to see more Invincible, but he makes a good point. The Kung Fu Panda movies are a great example that prove his point. The third movie should've been the ending of Kung Fu Panda.
Toy Story too
The fact that Robert Kirkman made both The Walking Dead AND Invincible makes him one of my goats.
I hope we never get a continuation. I read Invincible in real-time and ill never forget reading that last issue. It was perfect, tied up the plotlines from the main series and teased years worth of content with its ending. It felt like a live-universe that would continue forvever instead of being rebooted every 10 years.
He as a point
There so many ips that just never end until it literally turns to shit and withers away as the creative form they once had gets removed further and farther away.
Letting a show end when it’s ready to narratively is definitely the way to go, unless the creators are able to continue that world in a new light that aligns with the shows original values, or substantially changes it’s focus so it can be almost a completely separate entity that just happens to share the same world building
I think possibly having stand-alone or anthology short series going into details on these other stories.
I loved the comics, and I very much enjoy that it DID end, but having stories set within that universe could be pretty neat as the stories could be loosely tied into the comics are even entirely separate.
I think that best case scenario we will get a mini series to calm down the fanbase, that being a miniseries of Terra or Markus.
Authors everywhere listen to this author
No spider-man superman batman glash need to keep telling stories
The epilogue was amazing, and I'd rather they'd NOT continue it since the only western comics I've read and _want_ to read are those with an actual ending, like Invincible and Watchmen.
I believe it will continue
Doesn’t make sense to. The viltrumites were the endgame of invincible. You’re just being greedy
1:30 sorta weird how ursaal attempted to kill terra when she was a child and now the two of them are friends.
Robert Kirkman give this wisdom to marvel and dc because they need to stop at some point
Remember, Thragg said that it wasn mediatory to procreate with humans, so why would be not follow his own rules, 2 imagine an alternate reality, that Thragg procreated with Anissa 💀
Never end a franchise with villains still alive and plan to attack the heroes not letting us know what happened next. Never end in cliffhangers.
It technically wasn't a cliff hanger our main characters arcs are finished nobody cares about levys son or Terra ECT
@@jfoster8624 you forgot about battle beast’s daughter and robot’s brain
@@JackseyezAs if they can do anything, lmao.
Thragg is a little bit stronger than Battle Beast but he was force to exile just because of a few dozen of Viltrumite.
With the number of Viltrumite after 500 years, Battle Beast's daughter never stood a chance.
Beside, even Rex in the last arc was still unable to create a robot that's as trong as a Viltrumite, so it doesn't really matter.
The only thing back is Levy's son, but i doubt he could do anything.
As nice as they would be I see why he left so many dangling threads. It was an homage to how comic stories never really end, there is always some new villian or story arc pending. I doubt he even actually intended to bring up any of those plotlines again. But if he ever did it would still be interesting.
I'm kinda interested in what the invinci-kids are gonna do, but the book would be so far flung in the future it would be very much like a _space opera_ and most folks I don't think would relate to it as much. Lightening doesn't often strike twice. I'd still buy the hell out of that book because he has a good handle on writing both genders. Like in the first season, I know everyone hated Amber, but I got why she felt the way she did. Plus that whole thing with... He's just overall a pretty ok writer that really knows how to write to his strengths. Good video!
Ryan Ottley is working on a secret project with Kirkman, so who knows what that may be. I think a self-contained spinoff is a better call that a straight-up "Invincible 2" sequel.
If I said he didn't have a point I would be lying but after everything you just said if the comic continues and eventually becomes an animated series it’s gonna be epic
You mean like the animated series that's already out?
That's fair. I think they could do one off solo anthologies though.
“If he doesn’t do it I would be surprised” after hearing a video of him literally saying he doesn’t want it to keep going on
after the walking dead telltale comic - -trust me you dont want a continuation comic
Lol
I heard the Dark Knight Returns sequel sucks.
in order for it to stay relevant, any progress spider-man gets in happiness or growth as a character, it get ripped away by the next author that takes the mantle. they cuck spider-man, erase the marriage and happy life he has. honestly, they should have ended spider-man long ago. same said of all of the super hero main series. they never grow up. they are perpetually in torment.
All stories need a end and good on him if he nevers goes back to it.
As someone that liked the ending, sure Im curious about what the future would look lije in that universe but, I dont really wanna see it. The story of Mark could be considered to have ended and thats what I was there for and the rest is just somerhing I can wonder about from time to time.
Well, if he wanted the series to just end, why did he leave so many cliffhangers? I’m not talking about another series but just one last story arc to wrap things up in a nice little bow.
I hope, it would be new invincible story for further future if Robert announced. If he had ideas of his mind.
There is a good chance that Amazon may pull the plug on the show and something else could go wrong and then Robbie boy has a change of heart and maybe continues it.
Amazon pulling the plug on one of the most well received animated shows in the last couple of years
With characters being already introduced in other franchises (Mortal Kombat 1)
The day Amazon cancels invincible is same day homelander beats Omni man 😂 (which is never)
@@jr1212-es9bp Whatever Omni-Crap fanboy 😆 😜 😂 🤣 🙄 😒
@@Khalfrank Wow that’s your reply 😂 you had all this time to make a reply and that’s what you came up with 😂🤦🏾♂️
@@jr1212-es9bp Oh please Omni-Crap fanboy. MK1 has problems that the fans keep calling out. How long did TWD last? It could've went longer than 11 seasons but it obviously went down hill now shut up.
@@Khalfrank There’s no way a sane individual just compared the walking dead to the hit animated show invincible 😂🤦🏾♂️
And used a live action show to an already well received animated series with heaps of action packed and intriguing story with enough material to make 5-6 seasons 🤷♂️😂
Read the comics we still haven’t got to viltrumite war, Thragg vs Omni and invincible, invincible vs invincibles of Other timelines, Dinosaurus, threxa attack, conquest vs invincible, Nolan and Allen adventures, angstrom levy, evil robot, coalition of planets vs viltrumites, viltrumites living on earth, Battle beast vs thragg, Nolan becoming king 👑, 🤷♂️ and many more action packed storyline’s 🤷♂️😂
The fact you compared Twd to invincible is just plain idiotic and funny 😂 and I’m just gonna assume your trolling
Sometimes you just have to end a story, people want to drag stories on until it gets weaker and then the audience can complain then compare it to when things were good.
I mean I can see what he's saying just look at The walking Dead show
Week I hope this guy really does mean it
Looks like he learned this lesson about ending a story with twd comic. The ending is horrible and you can see that he just finished it like that because he was already too tired and without any decent story to tell anymore. All that part of Carl crying saying he is tired and stuff was literally the creator himself admiting he was tired of that story.
Yeah he didn't do that with The Walking Dead
I hope he doesn't continues it. The message of the original series is perfect as is. There's no need for more. The whole series is critical of how superhero stories have become void of purpose as they just prolong the status quo.
I agree with Robert. All these superhero comics deserve to end.
I hope Kirkman sticks to his principles and doesn't chase the Almighty Dollar by extending the Invincible comics
All I wanna see is one last fight depicting just how Invincible Mark became by the end of the series
Yea it should have end with him himself showing he's truly invincible, rather than by showing off his kids (just once) for the old namesake
Please don't. Too many American superhero comic characters have become more like immortal corporate mascots than breathing beings.
We'll get more if Robert wants a new pool or something like that.
That's alot
Why is it that only yhe mediocre series get to go on and the coolest ones have an ending.
Doesn't have to go on forever. Just a few comics to rap up loose ends or a few "what if" style comics that touch on the other universes. Personally, as much as I love the comics, I don't want them to go on forever either but fans of any kind of media hate ending a series on a cliffhanger or just having a bunch of loose ends. End it on a good satisfying note before some years down the line someone else gets a hold of the rights and ruins it with a shitty sequel.
Which is hilarious in contrast to the adaptations of his other work TWD which is on what its 5th fucking spin-off? AMC never letting that money pot conclude.
Eh I just like cool worldbuilding and want more of that it's not super complicated
It would be cool if they would make a comic about a different viltrimite that doesn’t have anything to do with the main series.
The best stories always have a few loose threads IMO for fans to speculate. I prefer that over everything wrapped up in nice bow
That’s how the walking dead is. He purposefully left loose ends
I get Robert point of having story end but after reading all the comics these past two days he left so many cliff hangers for the story.
If he truly wanted the story to end he shouldn’t of gave the fans hope of more content in the future with levy son robot maybe coming back war between siblings Markus and terra there is so much more story to be told.
So it’s not really fair of him to just stop it all.
And there is good story between Markus and terra war arc plus thragg had many many children one of them probably have traits of the father
If you read the comics then I don't know where you get this potential war between Marky and Terra from, the only panel in which any conflict between those two happen is the one with Terra being mad with Marky for breaking her space Ipad when se was teenager, like what are you on about mate? Unless I missed out on a particular issue or spin off, you seem to be day dreaming about stuff you made up in your mind. Invincible's story is pretty tightly done, Robot wasn't even teased to come back, he was left alone, sad and defeated as a lonely brain. Abandoned by everyone he ever loved and forever stuck as a machine of sorts, that's as tight an ending as can be.
@@richardsantosgarcia8972 terra said in the last comic she wanted split off with the peace corps because they’re called mark hypocrite for starting a war, and with marky reconciled with his father mark at the end I believe marky will take the father side while terra won’t and let’s say mark dies the two would have civil war between them.
With robot I never said the one trapped in the jar but the one in other dimension with marks body.
Robot could come back to start a war and then probably mark would need his robot help to find way to defeat himself aka him returning into the fold.
Levy son will probably get his revenge and maybe kill mark and then all
Hell could break loose.
@@fireliar123 Except, in just a few panels after that attempt at splitting up from the empire, it's strongly hinted they made up when Eve was about to "die". Hell, in the final image of the comics Terra is right there sunbathing like nothing happened lmao
@@richardsantosgarcia8972 but the peace corp will probably still leave and knowing terra she would as well
@@fireliar123 Different interpretations then
Why not continue it? that sounds cool
Smash or pass on battle beasts’ duaghter
Guy should end his comic like he wants it to end. Other folks might take his story somewhere he didn't intend it to go like a certain George Lucas.
I would love that but mark made the entire universe peaceful
He will be TOO stiffled by his own established timeline.
I actually like open ended ending.not everything should be answered. And the build up for new stories makes the world more alive.
Its doasnt start and end whit out heros .its will continue on and on
Never have I seen a never ending fiction as that if comics. Mangas end, novels end, franchises end and yet comics still churn out dogshit after dogshit.
Have you tried reading comics outside of marvel and DC?
i liked invincible cause it ended n didnt milk it till it went stale like spiderman. it had a great begging n ending let it go out that way.
My favorite stories are those with a good beginning a great ending and that stays consistent through out the series. Revivals and unnecessary sequels show a lack of imagination. Whatever ideas of villains and story-lines I might have could just be turned into it's own thing an be part of a new franchise.
to me kirkmans lying the entire ending seems less like the lord of the rings and more like a Star Wars it doesnt seem like this concise ending where its just done its obviously set up to create something more each of those plot points does not spell out a wrapped up ending its more a how much would I get to continue this
im begging you get a new avatar, commission someone, use ai whatever i like your content but i cant take anything you say seriously with that 2011 naruto god oc avatar
I liked the comic book. The cartoon doesn't really do it justice in my opinion. My thoughts on Invincible continuing is that they could definitely expand the universe. I was hoping for a spinoff series. But it seems unlikely as they've only put out a few one shot comics set in the Invincible universe.
It doesn't want to continue, maybe, because is already a rip off of Superman and it will become just anather Superman with less powers and so on.
When characters stay dead like in invincible , so does the comic has to end eventually. you cant pump out cool characters flawlessly it would get stale like marverl and dc have over time and pulling reboots and retreading waters differently makes the privilege of the content become meh, look at star wars. when i was a kid star wars was special thing and then it kept going to 2023 and now its a joke
I don’t want the series to continue
theraa
why is battle Beast's daughter so bad
FIRST!
This guy's boring. I'm out.✌️
No one cares dawg
I just hope it's not like that dumpster fire shit show Boruto
Woke Series, good it's done.
Saying this with a JoJo Pfp is hilariously ironic.
thats dumb if youre gonna end it dont leave a bunch of cliff hangers or atleast do some mini issues resolving said cliffhangers