They gave “Black Adam” and “Blue Beetle” a movie before Static in the height of “Mile Morales’” popularity. Heck they canceled “Batman Beyond” the animated movie during the that time as well.
@@Rage_Templar I didn’t even hate “Black Adam,” it’ll probably be the only time we’ll get “Hawkman” or “Doctor Fate” in a blockbuster movie (also they were pretty good too).
I get it with Blue Beetle as he’s another underrated character that’s barely used really but yeah no Black Adam is just ridicules. Or maybe it’s ridicules to me that his rival was Suoerman and Dr. Fate instead of fucking SHAZAM.
Not with modern Hollywood. They can't have straight strong black male role models. Static would have to be gay. Or weak and incompetent so his sister, Sharon, could step into the spotlight as a hero to replace him. The only reason Black Lightning got a show was so because they knew they'd get 3 females along with him. He was going to lose his powers. Before the show was cancelled. His daughters were going to replace him.
As somebody who remembers the DC message boards before they were shut down, DC still gets a fresh hot L over the shit storm that popped up when McDuffie took over the Justice League and people started calling it the "Affirmative Action League" just because there were FOUR BLACK MEMBERS active in the League at the same time. Members the PREVIOUS writer brought in. The man was dying and this is the shit he had to put up with.
Because Static is not a Batman sidekick. I love DC, I still find them to be infinitely better than Marvel when it comes to their approach to superhero themes. However, they always had an extremely terrible issue of never giving any character a chance so long as they aren't related to the trinity. Heck even Green Lantern and Flash whom I consider to be on the same level of quality as Batman and Superman get sidelined hard. That's how much favoritism do they show for the Trinity. And that's been their crutch, the only reason why the majority favors Marvel is precisely because Marvel doesn't have this much bias towards their characters.
@@bloody4558 it's more like DC doesn't want Sun, Moon and Stars even in regards to the Big 3. They like the sunny Superman, love the mysterious moon with Batman Wonder Stars howerver? Maybe once or twice...and with Green Lantern being the rocket and Flash effectively mission control...yeah...this ain't it chief.
@@RestIess.Gambler Did you watch the video? I think it was addressed that it is not the case. It just that the companies(and I include Marvel in this) refuse to let the black characters without lightning get any type of recognition or change at an adaptation for some reason. There is tones of black heroes with powers as diverse as the other ones.
I think the loss of creators like Dwayne McDuffie has hurt not just the pushing of Black Characters in DC proper, but especially in animation where he would make sure to have some of the best written stories like Justice League Unlimited, Static Shock, even Young Justice, prominently feature black characters as major players or protagonists in the story.
I somewhat agree but at the same time DC has been pumping out multiple animations that revolve around Batman, superman or the Justice league. It makes no sense why Harley quinn can get a decent show (until season 4) but they won't give us another animated Black superhero. I'm still surprised that Wonder woman still didn't get her own show. You can say it's because of SS but still WTF
I have no idea why they don't use Vixen more. Hells, she was even used in the RWBY/DC crossovers. As Eric July has said over and over... there is not a problem with needing more black superheroes. There is a problem with horrendous writers/writing over at DC. (still wondering what the HELL that thing was in creating Starfire's 'daughter')
@@laurenj6802they do tho the writers just purposely want it to be bad so when it “fails” they blame it on sales. They literally could of made the new Batman the Foxman bc bats are flying foxes in some culture and fox is his father last name like come on
Vixen is so cool to me with her animal based powers and design. Needs more spotlight and love to learn of her villain cast. I think I only know queen bee
That was how we got Amanda Waller in the early 90s. Fans demanded black ladies be represented, and she graced us from S.T.A.R. Labs and Cadmus. Fans loved her, and her support netted her a position in the animated show.
@@deetee4403 miles morales is a fine example. over all not a bad character but compared to peter he is inferior because he is a poorly wall papered copy
What's the girl's name that could change into any kind of animal she wanted? She dated GL in the Justice League. I can't remember 😂. But she had no lightening powers.
My dude Cyborg STILL needs that movie Edit damn y'all thanks for the likes honestly didn't expect this much also if yall wanna know why I want a Cyborg movie honestly it eould be nice to see other characters other than Batman, Harley and Joker as characters like Cyborg, Scarecrow REALLY need the screentime
I do think Cyborg isn't strong enough of a character to operate outside an ensemble cast. He doesn't have a good rogues gallery either. Though Gridlock was pretty cool.
And even some of these adaptations where Black characters do show up, get it wrong. Apparently Black Lightning's creator Tony Isabella urged people to not read 2018 Batman and the Outsiders, claiming that it turned Black Lightning into a sidekick to Batman :/ Although to be fair, DC likes to turn EVERYONE into Batman's sidekick
Pretty much, Black Lightning was written to be a role model for the African American community. And yes you're very correct in saying that everyone is a sidekick for Batman. DC needs to learn to stop wanking Batman and give other characters a chance
And he has so many sidekicks already! The Batman writers don't know what to do with them, half of them end up just standing around (or getting amnesia or dying). Why keep giving Batman more? He doesn't need Black Lightning or Superman or Blue Beetle as sidekicks. DC, let them be free so that they can all be their own characters🦋
Black Lightning is uniquely positioned for a lot of meaningful stories. Being a respected black man that can touch many young teen lives as a principle would be like a playground for a lot of wholesome arcs
@saierwe Yeah. That's why I like and respect this character, but he's always written in boring way. When I saw Static even with the same power set, he was always written better. The use of manhole covers and discs to fly with was so cool.
@@saierwe in some ways they can be boring, but I just feel like it just depends upon the right writer to make sure that Jefferson can use his powers more creatively like for instance maybe use the electrical synapsis within the mind of others to be able to read minds or even to use his powers to electrify the cells of a person’s body to heal them or even manipulate the electrical pads within the brain to make people feel pain stuff like that I feel like they can make Jefferson’s powers more interesting or to get actual black lightning instead of being his name sake and give it some sort of I don’t know mystical means behind it or something.
If you can get an interview with Tony Isabella (co-creator of Black Lightning) he will tell you how ass-backward DC was in the 70s with making Black superheroes and how they originally envisioned Black Lightning before Tony took the reigns. Black Lightning really only exists because Marvel was way ahead with Black superheroes (Luke Cage, Black Panther, Storm, Brother Voodoo, etc) and DC didn't want to be seen as lagging behind. Also, the addition of Black Vulcan in the Super Friends cartoon (a carbon copy of Black Lightning) is another screwed-up story.
They don't need to pay them to use their characters but go off. Edit: looked it up I was wrong, they don't have the right to use the characters without milestones permission.
@@Hello-bi1pmI disagree. I think the reason we get so many bad adaptations is because certain producers/studios are too greedy and won’t invest in “expensive” creators/writers to get a bigger payout later. In this case, they don’t want to pay the Milestone writers, which is crazy because a Static Shock movie with good marketing could ABSOLUTELY do Black Panther numbers.
@@Toatekaha yes they do. Black Panther and Storm alone are better than every DC black superhero. That’s without even mentioning Miles Morales, Luke Cage, Blade, Bishop, Falcon, and War Machine.
No they don't. DC has WAY BETTER Black characters than Marvel. They have multiple iconic characters, and DC creates an entire comic book series every Black History Month. You don't see Marvel doing that + the only popular African American Marvel character is Miles Morales (who is a rip off of Static Shock). DC has PLENTY of popular African American characters . Green Lantern John Stewart . Static Shock . Icon . Cyborg . Black Lightning . Rocket . Bronze Tiger . Steel . Nubia . Natasha Irons . Black Manta . Aqualad . Firestorm (Jason Rush) + (Jefferson Jackson) . Kid Flash (Wallace West) etc
@@karimdavis7065 no one is arguing that tho. We know that dc has great black characters. We are just upset that dc doesn’t do anything with them most of the time. There isn’t really a push for them as much as we like.
@@karimdavis7065 What the fuck do you mean The only popular black hero marvel had is Miles, they have a ton, Black Panther, Storm, and Blade are all really popular. DC does absolutely not have better black heroes. Black Panther and Storm alone are better than every black dc hero combined. That’s without mentioning Blade,Bishop, Luke Cage, Falcon and War Machine. Also how is Miles Morales in anyway a ripoff of static? The only similar thing about them is the electric powers. Miles has invisibility, and spider powers that make him unique. Marvel has Black Panther who is the face of black superheroes. Also characters like Vixen and Firestorm and Bronze Tiger and Nubia are not popular at all. Stop spreading misinformation
That's one of the reasons why I dislike race swapping in general they can use already established black characters or create new ones like what they're doing now like with far sector green lantern but they either leave them on the shelf to collect dust or dread tje thought of creating a new character and not feeling confident that people would be interested
"Name 5 black superheroes with no lightning powers" Most people: Black Panther... Green Lantern... Luke Cage... Uuuuhh... My brain on frame 1: F R O Z O N E
DC: *Green Lantern (John Stewart) *Cyborg *Vixen *Mr. Terrific *Kid Flash (new) *Aqualad (new) *John Steele Nubia (who?) Look her up Marvel: Black Panther Luke Cage Nick Fury War Machine Brother Voodoo Giant-Man (they killed him off in Civil War) Shuri of Wakanda.
The problem is they don't have any Prominent Black male writers. So we have White males and female writers who have to assume what a black males life is like. How do they do that? They watch BET.
@Infamous1892 No. That's stupid. By your same logic, Superman should be a bad character cause we don't have any human-looking aliens writing for him. Batman should be bad cause no billionaire has ever written him. Bad writers are bad writers, regardless of skin color or appearance.
@@MarvinPowell1ehhhh, I see what you mean, but I would prefer if a black writer wrote a black character and a Hispanic writer wrote a Hispanic character, it makes it more likely for the writer to properly represent the experience of that people, especially when that character is tied to their culture/heritage.
@@MarvinPowell1 True, that is stupid. He should have thought on that a bit more. Obviously a white writer can write a good black character. Characters, whether they're black or hispanic or whatever, shouldn't have their skin color or race be their whole identity/personality.
And sometimes they’re actually a fleshed out character who takes on their own little arcs and episodes….except that was the DCAU, Black Lightning, and Young Justice. Neither of them are ongoing.
My try at the 5 non-electrical black superheroes: skipping Icon, Rocket, Steel, & Natasha... • Tyroc (Power: can make Sonic Constructs, kinda like from a GL ring, but by screaming) • Invisible Kid II (Jaques Foquart. Took the invisibility serum of Invisible Kid I to save his sister Danielle from the evil A.I. Computo and joined the Legion of Superheroes afterward) • Computo II (Danielle Foquart. After recovering from her possession from the evil A.I. Computo, Danielle discovered that she could now control computers. After the destruction of Earth, she joined the rebanded Legion just before the story was retconned out of existence.) • Kid Quantum I (After the reboot, this Kid Quantum had 'powers' bestowed thru his belt... that failed on his first mission... which led to his death... yeah........) • XS (Jenni Ognats. Bart Allen's cousin. The Speed Force runs through her veins...) • Kid Quantum II (After Kid Quantum I died, his home planet would later send his sister to join the Legion, although this time they made sure that her powers didn't need technological enhancements. She lasted till the universe was rebooted AGAIN) There we go. Six black Superheroes. Three of whom are female. None of which use electricity.
To be fair Static was one of the few Milestone characters that was kid-friendly. It's not like they could have made an animated TV show about Blood Syndicate. Maybe now but definitely not back then.
Who cares who is better? Every black hero is a “genius” Terrific is a newer character and a rehash of an old unpopular white character. He was in one comic. Justice society and it was read by older aged fans. Most black heroes are unoriginal or rehashed race swapped versions. Most have lightning powers or mechanical like cyborg n steel and iron heart (who’s also a genius) when everyone is a genius that cheapens the effect. The old guard of hero’s have decades of history. It would be nice for black creators to maybe look into ancient history and myth of black peoples, then make something based on that. Instead of doing black versions of unpopular white characters. Black panther is the most original and has decades or history to draw from.
Mr Terrific isn't close to Reed Richards Reed is like an intelligence cheat code. Marvel has made Reed so smart that no one comes close Whereas in DC there is a debate
Man I fully forgot Terrific. He was in charge of the Justice League operations in JLU. Sadly he never got any full episodes. He was, however, really awesome every time he was on screen.
@@QNPMEDIAyes they do. Black Panther and Storm are better than every black dc hero combined. Marvel also has Black Panther who is the most iconic black superhero and the face of black superheroes.
@@cactusblack5993Actually they wouldn’t. Founder Denys Cowan is quoted saying “I hate the Black version of almost anything” If Icon was Black Superman he’d be Val Zod.
@@joeker5208 but her powers aside from flight are not natural. She's primarily tech based. Bumblebee is the ex-partner of the Atom. She left after a few months to join the Titans as her own heroine because Ray's a self-admittant jerk who can't see any other viewpoints.
@@lavon65beamon Bro the question was black characters in comics/fiction. And Bishop's powers are that he absorbs energy and can then use it in many ways. It's not lightning based, but he could obviously absorb electricity.
No lie, Mr. Terrific is so underrated and under used. I hated how they turned him into a jobber on Arrow, and I'm cautious about how James Gunn will be using Edi Gathegi. (WE REMEMBER DARWIN.) Frankly, the Injustice animated movie did more justice in his character than anything outside of the comics. The dude led the JSA! I'm just jaded when it comes to certain live-action adaptations of DC superheroes.
James Gunn bringing Mr Terrific into the first Dcu movie is amazing to see because he’s honestly one of my favorite black superheroes. Hopefully static shock comes in at some point too
Fuck, I'm so annoyed Luke Cage didn't come to mind. Quite enjoyed his Netflix show. My list was Black Panther, Spectrum, Blue Marvel, John Stewart and Blade.
@@Raelyn I had Black Panther, Cyborg, John Stewart, Ironheart and War Machine... Ironic that it seems most I think of do either have lightning powers or are technology users.
Your content isn't even negative. You're just spitting up straight up facts dog, don't let the haters get to you man. Keep up the good content, I'll always watch.
@@irrevenant3i am 99% sure that cyborg has some form of electric manipulation I mean he's a robot, a robot with no electricity is like cereal with no milk
@@user-xh4ov1so1pYou could be right. I've never seen him use it though. Unless you're counting things like interfacing with electrical equipment under lightning powers.
Sir. This entire video was nothing less than 💯. Especially the CW’s treatment of Black Lightning and Mr. Terrific. And the Tobias Whale/Uncle Ruckus comparison was spot on.
Icon and Static deserve more attention from DC, like static shock had a popular Cartoon that made him popular. Look at Miles Morales, he has basically become The spider man for this new generation due to how many things his in but also by how great his movies, game and comics are. (Edit: Why does everytime I mention Miles as a good example in a comment, it devolves into people that hate Miles trying to justify their opinion that he is a terrible character?)
I am getting a little tired of them using Spiderman content across different forms of media to set up Miles. I hear they're planning on doing it with the live action movies as sell. I kind of wish they would do something different like may set up Mayday Parker as Spidergirl. And i can agree on Static Shock. I'd love to see a movie based on the animated series
No they don't. DC has WAY BETTER Black characters than Marvel. They have multiple iconic characters, and DC creates an entire comic book series every Black History Month. You don't see Marvel doing that + the only popular African American Marvel character is Miles Morales (who is a rip off of Static Shock). DC has PLENTY of popular African American characters . Green Lantern John Stewart . Static Shock . Icon . Cyborg . Black Lightning . Rocket . Bronze Tiger . Steel . Nubia . Natasha Irons . Black Manta . Aqualad . Firestorm (Jason Rush) + (Jefferson Jackson) . Kid Flash (Wallace West) etc
Peter Parker is Marvel's standard bearer. Miles Morales will never be as big as Peter Parker. As for his movies, Miles only has an animated feature to his credit. Peter Parker's games and comics were always far better.
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp The problem with Mayday/Spider-Girl is that they need a happily married Peter Parker for that, and marvel will never do that in the mainline comics if Paul is any indicator of that(plus we saw what they did to Ben Reilly, they just don't want anyone aside from Peter to have the title, Miles is popular enough to out shine Peter in some regards. Otherwise he would suffer a similar fate)
I agree but Why would they when they can oversaturate characters like Batman, Superman, Harley Quinn etc even when they have Cyborg he feels like a background character or plot device. DC just doesn't feel confident in other characters Hell WW can barley keep up with Bats and Sups
So… white guy here, for as much as that may matter, BUT… I grew up watching Static Shock, Justice League/Unlimited, and essentially any piece of remotely superhero-like media (Danny Phantom, Ben 10, Samurai Jack, Generator Rex, etc) especially since my dad, who was a teenager in the 80s, had been a comic book fan, and shared all of his interests with me growing up, and now I love them more than he does. Now that I’ve given some back story, let’s get to the meat. Dwayne McDuffie is the GOAT. He had his fingers in all the best pie. Unfortunately, I have been unable to purchase the Milestone compendiums yet, but I will, as soon as I have the money, so that I can read his and the other Milestone writers’ works. Static Shock had a profound effect on me though, and is probably one of the earliest shows I remember watching that made me think, especially with episodes about school shootings, racism, etc. Static should get a show or movie, and it should be top-tier, with a dedication to Dwayne McDuffie. But past that, Icon and Rocket should also, absolutely, get a trilogy of movies, at the least. And yes, some people will say that the Milestone characters should stay in their own universe, but I disagree, because I was 11 or so when Young Justice came out, and I think if done right, having the Milestone characters added to the DC sandbox can lead to greatness, similar to the Charleston characters, Fawcett characters, etc. They can and should all have their place. DC has just mismanaged their characters way too much, and brought on these new writers who only want to create a legacy for themselves by making new characters that check boxes or are self-inserts, rather than using the pre-existing characters to tell great stories. Don’t get me wrong, a new character every once in a while would be awesome, especially if they are unique and fresh… but that never happens. It’s always just a reskinned character. Literally. Now, if we look past the Milestone of it all, like you said, Vixen, John Stewart, Mr. Terrific are all fantastic. But then you’ve got Steel, who I personally find awesome. Yes, some may say he is a Superman rip-off, but for the story he was introduced in, it makes sense, and if you/DC want a “black Superman”, but don’t want Icon, he’s perfect. You did mention Black Lightning, but I want to give him special focus, because I also really like him, mainly for the fact he is a teacher. Always thought it would cool to play his character kind of like Morgan Freeman’s character in Lean On Me (I’m pretty sure that’s the movie), where he’s a teacher turned principal doing everything he can to turn a school around, trying to help the good kids shine and stay out of trouble, but also getting the bad kids out to make it safe for the others, while others move against him. And he’s a leader of The Outsiders. Just remove Batman from the equation, and let Sapphire Stagg fund the team or something. Obviously you talked about Cyborg as well, and while I think Cyborg is great, he’s apparently just incredibly difficult to give new material, because all they can ever do is write him as this “am I man or machine” story, and he desperately needs something new, but I think he is best suited being a Titan, and then helping from the background like the other New Teen Titans as the next generation comes up, and being a member of the League when they need him, but give him something more to do than be transportation and communications PLEASE. I like Batwing/Luke Fox as opposed to Jace, the other Batman, but hate the name Batwing. I think he should be called Gargoyle personally, and have him, Tim Drake, and Barbara team up to lead Wayne Tech and develop new technology for all kinds of uses, but mainly to help people, while also doing superhero stuff on the side. I don’t know enough about Naomi, but I have heard good things about her in the past, so… maybe? And I know he’s a villain, but Bronze Tiger in the Suicide Squad could be very compelling if done right. Past them… I’m sure there are other characters that just aren’t coming to mind right now, but they waste so many of their characters as it is, of any race, gender, etc, we’ll probably never see the greatness I always imagine. We can always hope though, especially with what Gunn and Safran have been cooking.
The disrespect milestone gets is insane. When the return was announced, ppl were hyped but immediately abandoned the comics because static comic mentioned blm They dog piled it, and then they killed the line, and like no body on comic book, youtube would cover it. It felt like a set up
Y'all forgot about Jim Valentino's ShadowHawk. From Image comics. He's a black character. Then we got obscure but dope black characters like Night Thrasher, Rage, Triathlon, BloodWynd, and Sentinel. None of these guys have lightning based powers and two of them don't have any powers at all. Just highly trained abilities.
in general most of the DC heroes need better rogues, Batman and Superman had a lot, maybe Flash and Teen titans too but Green lantern? Black lightning? Martian manhunter? arrow? Almost nothing
They did exactly that with Cyborg during Rebirth, but fucking no one was reading that book. It was dope, cause they got into Cyborg dealing with robotic and cybernetic villains on his own. Like, they made Kilgore his arch nemesis for a while and it was awesome. People just didn’t read it. It was a damn fun book, too.
I am Gonna BE honest John boyegas Character Finn was Ass since the beginning. The only interesting Part about Finn was the First give minutes with him ,the Moment He escaped with Poe Finn was an annoying Character that only Had very few good Moments Like him Standing Up against Emo Vader but thats it and that was all in TFA. I cannot pretend Finn was an interesting Character ruined by Roman Johnson since Finn was a complete pathetic Joke since TFA
I'm actually not mad that they cut Martian manhunter. The scenes they showed made me wonder why he was checking up on lois instead of helping the other heroes with the threat he had to have known was there
Black Lightning and Nubia should be more popular, as DCs first black hero and first black female hero they arguably should DCs first picks when needing a black character in something.
Error- Vox is the first Black DC hero and his wife Bumblebee is the first Black DC Heroine. Nubia starts her story off as a villain who slowly reforms into a Wonder Woman mantle- share. This is why she doesn't show up often, despite her 1973 debut. Black Lightning didn't show up until 1977, same year as Bumblebee, but about a few weeks after her. Vixen shows up first in a planned 1978 debut, but it got delayed to the early 80's. Mal Duncan has a 1970 debut which even predated John Stewart in 1971. Bumblebee is often first picked in many adaptations of DC comics for a good reason. She's a teenage female version of the Atom...and his ex-sidekick. (Excuse me, ex-partner...everyone on the Titans feel the same way as Arsenal about being called sidekicks.) This is even referenced in DC's official history...although Karen and Mal often argue whether John, Jeff and Mari were first or if it was them in modern-continuity. Karen says John, Jeff and Mari, Mal says them for both continuity and publication. Logically, Mal's right...he and Karen were first. The Teen Titans were known for being way pavers. Vox debuts as the first black superhero and about a week or two later his wife gets in on the act, then John, Jeff and Mari...but John tends to get "saucy" about being a GL-shareholder in his early days...which is why he floated over everyone's heads...and disgusted everyone except Hal (who recommended it) at first until the Xanshi incident gave him a wakeup call.
Static is more popular due to being younger I think. Hell, being young is largely why Peter Parker as Spider-Man became so huge despite not being the first Superhero. Comic readers were mostly young and latched onto Peter's more relatable struggles with school/dating/bullies etc Nowadays those fans are older and relate to the adult versions of Peter from Spider-Verse and the Insomniac games, meanwhile Miles has sort of picked up some of that younger fan popularity. I think Static fills that similar fan demand, or at least he did when his show was airing.
@@wakkaseta8351 yes...and it was odd. Nubia also got a more proper Wonder Woman title at the time too and they had even given her a Future State special where she was connected to African mythology concerning "Aunt Nancy's" flyswatter ex-machina.
The static shock situation is kinda of a legal thing he is and isn’t in the DC comic but he’s kinda like miles morales where he’s is his own separate universe
An ICON movie would be genuinely great, it’s the perfect black Superman movie and he’s literally a character begging to become an ICONIC (pun intended) on-screen character. We should be on our third ICON actor by now and he should be bigger and more recognizable than Black Panther.
DC has so many interesting black characters but choose to ignore them is really frustrating. Especially with the ones they do use like John Stewart and Cyborg are often used more like tokens with teams that have mostly white characters.
Blessing in disguise in my opinion because today they cannot handle any Character without pushing some idiotic Agenda and writing IT so badly IT completely Ruins the Character for everyone
10:00 THIS. Started with the new 52 and it felt weird. Shit, he works better in Doom Patrol than the JLA, but he belongs in the Titans. He was the best character in Zacks JLA though.
Exactly, and not to mention that during his time as a member of the Teen Titans/Titans and in the Doom Patrol show, he was written as an actual character rather than just the token black tech guy
I binge watched Static Shock like a month ago, and i am not gonna lie it was fire. It's social criticism done right. If written well, a Static Animated/Live Action movie has the potential to go toe to toe with spider verse
Agreed with the caveat that i'd rather see _Icon and Rocket_ than a solo Icon movie. Those two bouncing off each other with their very different perspectives is a large part of the point.
I completely agree because after reading about them, their characters are so interesting because there is a dynamic between these two that is really interesting to see because essentially they grow from being partners to pseudo father and daughter, and it makes it more inspiring that Rocket propelled icon to become a superhero, which I find so refreshing Because she wants to generally help their community more ways than one and even go global to help the world and also seeing their viewpoint of how they handle certain topics because icon has such a I would say fashion look on life where as Raquel brings in that spark of hope for a better future which most of time they often clash would you want another regarding these ideology but that’s what makes them such a unique pair imo.
I'm a white man, and I agree with EVERY point you make in this video. Glad Mr Terrific is going to be in the new Superman movie. I just hope to see the Milestone project if it ever comes to fruition. Icon and Rocket are great, and Static is awesome. The Milestone characters in Young Justice were also a lot of fun, but just not enough. And Dwayne McDuffey created so much of my childhood, including the JL and JLU cartoons.
People who say you're negative are straight trippin given the fact that you praise major and sidelined characters consistently in your vids while also providing cool info about them 🤧!!! This vid was so cathartic to watch btw, I wholeheartedly agree, especially as Static, John stewart GL, Vixen, and Black Lightning are some of my fav DC heroes :/ and exposing lesser known black heroes, like Icon, could really inspire a generation or create new fans of the character !!! They're sitting on a gold mine fr
They really need to get this Blade movie on track. The first Blade movie is one of the most beloved superhero movies of all time. As long as the script is decent you have strong potential to smash through these sub 100 mill openings that have been plaging the movie industry this summer.
@@Z.200 He’s much better as The Signal than another Robin. They just need to actually UTILIZE him. He’s the only Batfam member working in the morning and has superpowers. Also hes in college, he could be interesting given the chance. If u really had to change his name I’d honesty go with something like Eclipse or Equinox because of his powerset.
10:24: I too never cared for the decision to have Cyborg on the Justice League, especially as J’onn J’onnz replacement in the big 7. Just make Martian Manhunter’s human form, John Jones, black. He was obscure and only became known in pop culture in the 2000s. There wouldn’t be any real pushback against that. In fact, almost every piece of DC extended media already does that. Just put that in the comics.
Nah, what's up with black heroes with electric powers, tho? Also, why is Black Power Ranger never black!? They give him every other color!! This video has me questioning alot!😂 More serious note: As a black nerd, I really want to see more black heroes in the spotlight. DC has tried to spotlight Black Characters but really failed in the attempts. Also black characters in media aren't taken too well, especially in other countries. One example is black panther poster art being changed for the world wide release hiding chadwicks face with the cowl of the black panther.
The character of Icon if done right on the big screen is exactly what black folk of all generations would fall in love with imo. That character has the most potential out of all Black DC or comic book characters in general to be something more than what they are. From the way he’s written, well spoken, impact on younger black comic characters like rocket, static, hardware etc..helped free slaves in the Underground Railroads and eventually but force , his design all of the above and then some. JAMES GUNN USE ICON PLEASE!! Milestone Characters have a lot of depth to them and great storylines that tie into the DC merger.
Recently I've been wanting to see a push for Jace Fox, even though some people find him irrelevant if Bruce is still around. But really he doesn't have to be *Batman* - he can just be Batwing.
as much as i am a die-hard batman fan, GOD does DC need to step it up with the development of their cast in general. JL and JLU are two of the coolest shows I've watched and I LOVED vixen in it sm I am so sad she isn't pushed. The appeal of JL and JLU is the interactions between a lot of the cast of the JLA and I got attatched to so many of them and I feel like DC just planted a seed and forgot to give it water. I was first exposed to static shock, icon, and rocket through young justice and I thought they was pretty cool and I dunno much about them and milestone, but they are definitely characters that deserve attention and proper development.
@@kadegetslaid634 Thanks. I only vaguely remember Mr Miracle from the DCUA. The Jack Kirby's Jimmy Olsen Adventures r on my comics list, but it's going to be a good long while before I get to them. I'll have to look into Mister Terrific.
No they don't. DC has WAY BETTER Black characters than Marvel. They have multiple iconic characters, and DC creates an entire comic book series every Black History Month. You don't see Marvel doing that + the only popular African American Marvel character is Miles Morales (who is a rip off of Static Shock). DC has PLENTY of popular African American characters . Green Lantern John Stewart . Static Shock . Icon . Cyborg . Black Lightning . Rocket . Bronze Tiger . Steel . Nubia . Natasha Irons . Black Manta . Aqualad . Firestorm (Jason Rush) + (Jefferson Jackson) . Kid Flash (Wallace West) . Vixen . Signel
@@karimdavis7065Black Panther and Storm are 100000x better than all those characters combined. What do you mean Miles is a ripoff of Static? The only similarities is the electric powers. Miles has invisibility and Spider Powers that make him unique. What the fuck are you talking about when you say Miles is the only popular black marvel character? Black Panther? Storm? Luke Cage? Blade? Lmfao. DC fanboy detected. Also characters like Vixen, Bronze Tiger, Icon, Firestorm, and Nubia are extremely obscure and no one gives a shit about them. Stop lying and saying that they’re popular because they’re not. Just because DC does that and Marvel doesn’t does not mean DC has better black characters
If you want a good Cyborg interpretation, you should check out Doom Patrol Doom Patrol is such an underrated show in general. Very well written, and really absurd and funny
As much as i liked John Stewart in JL and JLU, he was honestly the most boring member of the team to me. Most of his stories were taken from Kyle Reiner or Hal Jordan.
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lpBarry was nothing like Wally in the cw tv show, also people only say Barry’s taking Wally personally when he cracks a couple of jokes which is werid bc Barry has always been the most light hearted character in the JL and a jokester. Just that a lot of Barry’s jokes are dads jokes, or jokes that are funny only bc of how awkward the timing or delivery was.
But how does that make him a bad character in the JLU???? Also a lot of elements in Wally west was taken from Barry in the JLU, like how Wally was basically a swap of Barry Allen, living a similar life style, and same exact origin as Barry Allen
@2kx62 I'm more saying he took Wally's personality because he wouldn't stop talking. He always had the drop on villains and then he would Crack a joke. And he would lose a lot. It got old and wasn't very funny. I'd always considered Barry to be wiser and thought things through better(aside from Flashpoint).
I've been saying this shit for YEARS with everyone assuming I'm racist just because I think raceswapping characters probably isn't the best form of representation, especially when you ALREADY have such interesting black characters that kids of all different kinds of backgrounds grew up on like Steel, Black Lightning, Static, Icon, Cyborg, Mr Terrific, Vixen, John Stewart, and a market that craves more originality.
I’m a white man I would be super interested in seeing DC/WB bringing milestones to big screen or small screen and have them become iconic like Batman and Superman.
It’s kinda frustrating when characters are race swapped when there are other notable characters who are people of color and are compelling.
They don’t wanna take the risk nor hard work required to make a compelling fleshed out character sadly.
same people who say they don’t know a train was race swapped lol.
@@NovaDark909almost as if it was always pandering in the first place and these writers couldn’t care less about the characters their adapting
@@Anthonycheesman33or the deep either yet they’re both way superior to their comic counterparts because of how the show expands on them
The deep was also race swapped no anger their @@Anthonycheesman33
They gave “Black Adam” and “Blue Beetle” a movie before Static in the height of “Mile Morales’” popularity. Heck they canceled “Batman Beyond” the animated movie during the that time as well.
And the blue beetle movie wasn't even good.
Hey hey hey! Hate on Adam but Blue Beetle been more relevant in the DC mythos than static ever was around 2010s.
@@Rage_Templar I didn’t even hate “Black Adam,” it’ll probably be the only time we’ll get “Hawkman” or “Doctor Fate” in a blockbuster movie (also they were pretty good too).
I get it with Blue Beetle as he’s another underrated character that’s barely used really but yeah no Black Adam is just ridicules. Or maybe it’s ridicules to me that his rival was Suoerman and Dr. Fate instead of fucking SHAZAM.
Technically Black Adam is black
A Static Shock movie would do NUMBERS
No not really they taking some of the best story and half ass making them into mediocre movies
@@DeADvElOciRaPtor sad but true. I would love a good static shock movie but I doubt DC can make it good
Not with modern Hollywood. They can't have straight strong black male role models. Static would have to be gay. Or weak and incompetent so his sister, Sharon, could step into the spotlight as a hero to replace him. The only reason Black Lightning got a show was so because they knew they'd get 3 females along with him. He was going to lose his powers. Before the show was cancelled. His daughters were going to replace him.
@@Spawned-uy8ipDoes miles morales not exist?
@@orca717 Have you ever seen Miles in a live action tv show/film???
Dwayne McDuffie died way too soon. He is a legend to me for his creation of Static and all these other amazing characters.
Could you imagine the CWverse if McDuffie had been a showrunner?
Did he die???
PREACH!!!
@RedKingdom28 Are you someone I know? Another name came up in my notifications.
As somebody who remembers the DC message boards before they were shut down, DC still gets a fresh hot L over the shit storm that popped up when McDuffie took over the Justice League and people started calling it the "Affirmative Action League" just because there were FOUR BLACK MEMBERS active in the League at the same time. Members the PREVIOUS writer brought in.
The man was dying and this is the shit he had to put up with.
I’m still confused as to why DC never gave Static the push that Marvel gave Miles.
Dwayne Mcduffie passed away
Dwayne McDuffie passed away and miles had the benefit of being attached to the spider-man brand
Static Shock show was cancelled due to low sales on the merchandise and the show was having less viewers
Because Static is not a Batman sidekick. I love DC, I still find them to be infinitely better than Marvel when it comes to their approach to superhero themes. However, they always had an extremely terrible issue of never giving any character a chance so long as they aren't related to the trinity. Heck even Green Lantern and Flash whom I consider to be on the same level of quality as Batman and Superman get sidelined hard. That's how much favoritism do they show for the Trinity.
And that's been their crutch, the only reason why the majority favors Marvel is precisely because Marvel doesn't have this much bias towards their characters.
@@bloody4558 it's more like DC doesn't want Sun, Moon and Stars even in regards to the Big 3.
They like the sunny Superman, love the mysterious moon with Batman
Wonder Stars howerver? Maybe once or twice...and with Green Lantern being the rocket and Flash effectively mission control...yeah...this ain't it chief.
i also just hate that they make all the black male heroes basically look the same... bald or short crop fro...
white comic artists are pretty tone deaf in their depictions of black ppl, fr
And the Warmonger style
And they all have the same abilities, super speed or some bullshit with lightning
@@RestIess.Gambler Did you watch the video? I think it was addressed that it is not the case. It just that the companies(and I include Marvel in this) refuse to let the black characters without lightning get any type of recognition or change at an adaptation for some reason. There is tones of black heroes with powers as diverse as the other ones.
Literally they all have the same face scan too
I think the loss of creators like Dwayne McDuffie has hurt not just the pushing of Black Characters in DC proper, but especially in animation where he would make sure to have some of the best written stories like Justice League Unlimited, Static Shock, even Young Justice, prominently feature black characters as major players or protagonists in the story.
@@NHTube1 how much time it take you to reply to every comment under this vid
I somewhat agree but at the same time DC has been pumping out multiple animations that revolve around Batman, superman or the Justice league.
It makes no sense why Harley quinn can get a decent show (until season 4) but they won't give us another animated Black superhero. I'm still surprised that Wonder woman still didn't get her own show. You can say it's because of SS but still WTF
@@NHTube1 Why you gotta act like a bot and spam bro.
Huge marvel fan here, don't listen to this guy lol they both got good shit obviously
He was a great writer, I miss his tyle of storytelling. Thankfully Man of Action still uses elements of his work going forward.
The funny thing is that killer bee HAS LIGHTNING POWERS.
I stg 😂
And also the Raikage
And Miles Morales too, which a lot of people don't know.
@@MarvinPowell1I didn’t know that tbh
Yes killer B possesses lightning,water and fire chakra natures.
I have no idea why they don't use Vixen more. Hells, she was even used in the RWBY/DC crossovers.
As Eric July has said over and over... there is not a problem with needing more black superheroes. There is a problem with horrendous writers/writing over at DC.
(still wondering what the HELL that thing was in creating Starfire's 'daughter')
Cause people won't support it.
@@laurenj6802they do tho the writers just purposely want it to be bad so when it “fails” they blame it on sales. They literally could of made the new Batman the Foxman bc bats are flying foxes in some culture and fox is his father last name like come on
Vixen is so cool to me with her animal based powers and design. Needs more spotlight and love to learn of her villain cast. I think I only know queen bee
I loved Vixen, honestly. She is so beautiful.
I'll prefer original black characters over race swapped characters any day.
That was how we got Amanda Waller in the early 90s. Fans demanded black ladies be represented, and she graced us from S.T.A.R. Labs and Cadmus. Fans loved her, and her support netted her a position in the animated show.
@edwardstewart6372....please highlight the race swapped characters who have not been good?
@@deetee4403 all of such has ben an inferior knock off
@@kertagin1 like which ones?
@@deetee4403 miles morales is a fine example. over all not a bad character but compared to peter he is inferior because he is a poorly wall papered copy
Black Characters that don’t have electricity powers
1. Steel
2. Falcon
3.Hardware
4. Black Panther
5. War machine
Some of those aren’t even in DC
What's the girl's name that could change into any kind of animal she wanted? She dated GL in the Justice League. I can't remember 😂. But she had no lightening powers.
@@maryqualls5086 Vixen
@@maryqualls5086 Vixen
I mean technically WM has electric weaponry.
That kinda counts as electricity
My dude Cyborg STILL needs that movie
Edit damn y'all thanks for the likes honestly didn't expect this much also if yall wanna know why I want a Cyborg movie honestly it eould be nice to see other characters other than Batman, Harley and Joker as characters like Cyborg, Scarecrow REALLY need the screentime
make him blue tho, it may be Teen Titans bias but blue tech suits him way better that red, his animated Teen Titans design is still the best one
I do think Cyborg isn't strong enough of a character to operate outside an ensemble cast. He doesn't have a good rogues gallery either. Though Gridlock was pretty cool.
@yiklongtay6029 then build good story for him then
@@deondrex18khis movie would look like Blue Beetle without the family.
We don’t need Cyborg we need Icon!
Black Lightning is majorly underutilized, he’s one of my favorite DC heroes and I wish him as well as the Outsiders in general got more attention.
Yes! Always liked the character, especially in the Outsiders.
@@NHTube1I agree,they're also more creative with their black hero by giving other powers and not just electricity
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@@NHTube1your definitely right to be honest seems like DC really does need some better black superhero’s somehow
@@thedukeofnothing6421 :)
00:01 oh she kind of bad, that storm?
💀
Nah thats nor
Only real ones know this quote 🤣
That’s a lil ass kid bro 😭🙏🏾
@@EllisHudsonn I MEANT BLACK LIGHTING. I AIN'T NO DRAKE
And even some of these adaptations where Black characters do show up, get it wrong. Apparently Black Lightning's creator Tony Isabella urged people to not read 2018 Batman and the Outsiders, claiming that it turned Black Lightning into a sidekick to Batman :/
Although to be fair, DC likes to turn EVERYONE into Batman's sidekick
Pretty much, Black Lightning was written to be a role model for the African American community. And yes you're very correct in saying that everyone is a sidekick for Batman. DC needs to learn to stop wanking Batman and give other characters a chance
They even make Superman his sidekick, a superhero who could kick his butt in two seconds flat.
That company has a weird obsession with Batman and his family. But then again that’s their cash cow
And he has so many sidekicks already! The Batman writers don't know what to do with them, half of them end up just standing around (or getting amnesia or dying). Why keep giving Batman more? He doesn't need Black Lightning or Superman or Blue Beetle as sidekicks. DC, let them be free so that they can all be their own characters🦋
@@serena3673 The name of company aka DC stands for Detective Comics. Batman is part of their name.
Black Lightning is uniquely positioned for a lot of meaningful stories. Being a respected black man that can touch many young teen lives as a principle would be like a playground for a lot of wholesome arcs
Black lightning, GL John Stewart, Vixen, Cyborg, and Static should be the leading lights of DC black heroes.
Followed by Icon and Rocket.
@saierwe Yeah. That's why I like and respect this character, but he's always written in boring way. When I saw Static even with the same power set, he was always written better. The use of manhole covers and discs to fly with was so cool.
@@saierwe in some ways they can be boring, but I just feel like it just depends upon the right writer to make sure that Jefferson can use his powers more creatively like for instance maybe use the electrical synapsis within the mind of others to be able to read minds or even to use his powers to electrify the cells of a person’s body to heal them or even manipulate the electrical pads within the brain to make people feel pain stuff like that I feel like they can make Jefferson’s powers more interesting or to get actual black lightning instead of being his name sake and give it some sort of I don’t know mystical means behind it or something.
@@deacondawg1416 Don't forget Steel. why is everyone forgetting about him he doesn't get the love he deserves.
@@AlSidreSteel? Did you mean Shaq?
If you can get an interview with Tony Isabella (co-creator of Black Lightning) he will tell you how ass-backward DC was in the 70s with making Black superheroes and how they originally envisioned Black Lightning before Tony took the reigns. Black Lightning really only exists because Marvel was way ahead with Black superheroes (Luke Cage, Black Panther, Storm, Brother Voodoo, etc) and DC didn't want to be seen as lagging behind. Also, the addition of Black Vulcan in the Super Friends cartoon (a carbon copy of Black Lightning) is another screwed-up story.
DC don't want to pay the Milestone creators their cut...that's the secret...that's all their is.
They don't need to pay them to use their characters but go off.
Edit: looked it up I was wrong, they don't have the right to use the characters without milestones permission.
@@Oyi_14 They had issues with the ownership rights with the milestone characters look it up.
When will US change its copyright laws. This is a reason we get so many butchered adaptations.
@@Hello-bi1pmI disagree. I think the reason we get so many bad adaptations is because certain producers/studios are too greedy and won’t invest in “expensive” creators/writers to get a bigger payout later. In this case, they don’t want to pay the Milestone writers, which is crazy because a Static Shock movie with good marketing could ABSOLUTELY do Black Panther numbers.
That’s what I was thinking. Reluctance to pay royalties. I wonder if Milestone Comics would have better suited staying an independent company.
They showing Steel his respect in the new Superman show tho fr
The man got a big ass mech suit too
THE SUIT LOOKS ASS THOUGHT GIVE HIM THE CAPE AND DON'T DRESS HIM LIKE REINHARDT
@@NHTube1no they don't, they do a better job at Marketing their Black Superheros.
I thought you was gonna bring up the shaq steel from the 90s NGL
@@Toatekaha yes they do. Black Panther and Storm alone are better than every DC black superhero. That’s without even mentioning Miles Morales, Luke Cage, Blade, Bishop, Falcon, and War Machine.
Seeing Mr.Terrific in Arrowverse felt more like a crossover with The IT-Crowd, than the original character. Such a shame.
I agree, never thought your content was too negative. You just want DC to be better. And boy, does it need to be better.
No they don't. DC has WAY BETTER Black characters than Marvel. They have multiple iconic characters, and DC creates an entire comic book series every Black History Month. You don't see Marvel doing that + the only popular African American Marvel character is Miles Morales (who is a rip off of Static Shock). DC has PLENTY of popular African American characters
. Green Lantern John Stewart
. Static Shock
. Icon
. Cyborg
. Black Lightning
. Rocket
. Bronze Tiger
. Steel
. Nubia
. Natasha Irons
. Black Manta
. Aqualad
. Firestorm (Jason Rush) + (Jefferson Jackson)
. Kid Flash (Wallace West) etc
@@karimdavis7065
no one is arguing that tho. We know that dc has great black characters. We are just upset that dc doesn’t do anything with them most of the time. There isn’t really a push for them as much as we like.
@@karimdavis7065 What the fuck do you mean The only popular black hero marvel had is Miles, they have a ton, Black Panther, Storm, and Blade are all really popular. DC does absolutely not have better black heroes. Black Panther and Storm alone are better than every black dc hero combined. That’s without mentioning Blade,Bishop, Luke Cage, Falcon and War Machine. Also how is Miles Morales in anyway a ripoff of static? The only similar thing about them is the electric powers. Miles has invisibility, and spider powers that make him unique. Marvel has Black Panther who is the face of black superheroes. Also characters like Vixen and Firestorm and Bronze Tiger and Nubia are not popular at all. Stop spreading misinformation
@@karimdavis7065Atleast Marvel didn’t create the Black Bomber character. DC is racist for that character alone
@@karimdavis7065you are a complete and utter midC fanboy that can’t except Marvel’s black heroes are a million times better than DC’s
They are to lazy to do anything interesting with them. This is why they changing race of populer characters instead. İts easier.
Marvel has FAR better black superheroes than Dc
Your 100% right! Which it really sucks they do this imo tho
people are still gonna complain either way lol. theres no helping THOSE people
That's one of the reasons why I dislike race swapping in general they can use already established black characters or create new ones like what they're doing now like with far sector green lantern but they either leave them on the shelf to collect dust or dread tje thought of creating a new character and not feeling confident that people would be interested
@@tracark2255 No one complained about Black Panther or Storm.
"Name 5 black superheroes with no lightning powers"
Most people: Black Panther... Green Lantern... Luke Cage... Uuuuhh...
My brain on frame 1: F R O Z O N E
You can get 5 just the boys/gen V alone. A-train, sister sage, original black noir, the replacement black noir and that blood bender girl whatshername
John steel,cyborg, Mr terrific,vixen,batwing,new firestorm,black manta,black vulcan
DC:
*Green Lantern (John Stewart)
*Cyborg
*Vixen
*Mr. Terrific
*Kid Flash (new)
*Aqualad (new)
*John Steele
Nubia (who?) Look her up
Marvel:
Black Panther
Luke Cage
Nick Fury
War Machine
Brother Voodoo
Giant-Man (they killed him off in Civil War)
Shuri of Wakanda.
FROZONE! WHAT ABOUT PICCOLO
Spawn, Blade, Steel, Luke Cage, and Icon.
The problem is they don't have any Prominent Black male writers. So we have White males and female writers who have to assume what a black males life is like. How do they do that? They watch BET.
True Dwayne’s passing was a big loss for black lead stories
@Infamous1892
No. That's stupid. By your same logic, Superman should be a bad character cause we don't have any human-looking aliens writing for him. Batman should be bad cause no billionaire has ever written him. Bad writers are bad writers, regardless of skin color or appearance.
@@MarvinPowell1ehhhh, I see what you mean, but I would prefer if a black writer wrote a black character and a Hispanic writer wrote a Hispanic character, it makes it more likely for the writer to properly represent the experience of that people, especially when that character is tied to their culture/heritage.
@@MarvinPowell1 True, that is stupid. He should have thought on that a bit more. Obviously a white writer can write a good black character. Characters, whether they're black or hispanic or whatever, shouldn't have their skin color or race be their whole identity/personality.
Which means the fault is BET's for portraying black people as stereotypes
Either their entire character is about their race or they're side character's to the white ones.
nope not at all
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Exactly Marvel has 200x better black characters than DC
And sometimes they’re actually a fleshed out character who takes on their own little arcs and episodes….except that was the DCAU, Black Lightning, and Young Justice.
Neither of them are ongoing.
@@NHTube1 like Luke Cage, Blade, Black panther, Bishop, Falcon/Captain America, Storm, Heimdall, War machine, Miles, Fury
My try at the 5 non-electrical black superheroes: skipping Icon, Rocket, Steel, & Natasha...
• Tyroc (Power: can make Sonic Constructs, kinda like from a GL ring, but by screaming)
• Invisible Kid II (Jaques Foquart. Took the invisibility serum of Invisible Kid I to save his sister Danielle from the evil A.I. Computo and joined the Legion of Superheroes afterward)
• Computo II (Danielle Foquart. After recovering from her possession from the evil A.I. Computo, Danielle discovered that she could now control computers. After the destruction of Earth, she joined the rebanded Legion just before the story was retconned out of existence.)
• Kid Quantum I (After the reboot, this Kid Quantum had 'powers' bestowed thru his belt... that failed on his first mission... which led to his death... yeah........)
• XS (Jenni Ognats. Bart Allen's cousin. The Speed Force runs through her veins...)
• Kid Quantum II (After Kid Quantum I died, his home planet would later send his sister to join the Legion, although this time they made sure that her powers didn't need technological enhancements. She lasted till the universe was rebooted AGAIN)
There we go. Six black Superheroes. Three of whom are female. None of which use electricity.
To be fair Static was one of the few Milestone characters that was kid-friendly. It's not like they could have made an animated TV show about Blood Syndicate. Maybe now but definitely not back then.
Crazy part is Mr Terrific is the equivalent of Reed Richards, maybe even better, but he's nowhere near as important. Damn shame it is.
Nah. Terrific almost approaches Tony Stark intelligence. Reed is a few levels above Tony Stark.
Who cares who is better? Every black hero is a “genius” Terrific is a newer character and a rehash of an old unpopular white character. He was in one comic. Justice society and it was read by older aged fans. Most black heroes are unoriginal or rehashed race swapped versions. Most have lightning powers or mechanical like cyborg n steel and iron heart (who’s also a genius) when everyone is a genius that cheapens the effect. The old guard of hero’s have decades of history. It would be nice for black creators to maybe look into ancient history and myth of black peoples, then make something based on that. Instead of doing black versions of unpopular white characters. Black panther is the most original and has decades or history to draw from.
Mr Terrific isn't close to Reed Richards
Reed is like an intelligence cheat code. Marvel has made Reed so smart that no one comes close
Whereas in DC there is a debate
Delusional why people like disrespecting reed richards
isnt mr terrific like the 3rd or 4th smartest being in DC though
Man I fully forgot Terrific. He was in charge of the Justice League operations in JLU.
Sadly he never got any full episodes.
He was, however, really awesome every time he was on screen.
The DC Black Superhero Trinity;
John Stewart Green Lantern
Static Shock
Cyborg
@@NHTube1it don't but go off
VIXEN SLANDER 😂
@@QNPMEDIAyes they do. Black Panther and Storm are better than every black dc hero combined. Marvel also has Black Panther who is the most iconic black superhero and the face of black superheroes.
@@QNPMEDIA She’s more an honorable mention
@@NHTube1 why are you begging for attention in the comments? 😂
Icon movie >>>> Black Superman movie
Technically he is black Superman
Nah, Icon ain't black Supes.
@@acrsclspdrcls1365 I hope you're joking cause the creators will even tell you that he is black Superman
@@cactusblack5993Actually they wouldn’t. Founder Denys Cowan is quoted saying “I hate the Black version of almost anything”
If Icon was Black Superman he’d be Val Zod.
Facts💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥
Blade, Spawn, Steel, Black Panther, Luke Cage
1:36 Killer Bee is literally a lightning user. It’s one of his main fucking things😂
Who's the Bee themed character from Titan's East?
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp that’s Bumblebee. But her stingers count for “electric-based” characters. Still a cool character though
@@joeker5208 oh that's right
@@joeker5208 but her powers aside from flight are not natural. She's primarily tech based.
Bumblebee is the ex-partner of the Atom. She left after a few months to join the Titans as her own heroine because Ray's a self-admittant jerk who can't see any other viewpoints.
@@Superlad9494 cool n’ all, but doesn’t change the fact that her stingers would go under the “electric” category
Spawn, Blade, Bishop, Luke Cage, Black Panther, Misnari (Storms nephew) Spike, Falcon, Steel, Sunman, Afro samurai, Mace Windo.
Don't forget blue marvel. Adam Brashear
Lmao mostly marvel
Don’t forget Bumblebee
Don't forget meteor man 🤗
Doesn't one of the strongest versions of spawn have god/devil powers? Wouldn't that give him access to lightning if he wanted?
Dwayne McDuffie’s work was so impactful. Lost way too early.
Nah bro Tobias Whale was funny ass hell in the show 😭
Agreed lmfao. I never realized it when I watched the show but now lmfao shits hilarious lol.
I paused to name five in my head lol
1.Luke Cage
2.Bishop
3.Falcon
4.Spike
5.Black Panther,War Machine?
Bishop can have lighting power's and he's not in DC
@@lavon65beamon Bro the question was black characters in comics/fiction.
And Bishop's powers are that he absorbs energy and can then use it in many ways. It's not lightning based, but he could obviously absorb electricity.
Those are pretty good ones
If someone asked me that question i would blank but later i can name like more than 5 black heroes without lightning.
Bumblebee, Bronze Tiger, Steel, Cyborg, Green Lantern John Stewart, Firestorm
No lie, Mr. Terrific is so underrated and under used. I hated how they turned him into a jobber on Arrow, and I'm cautious about how James Gunn will be using Edi Gathegi. (WE REMEMBER DARWIN.) Frankly, the Injustice animated movie did more justice in his character than anything outside of the comics. The dude led the JSA! I'm just jaded when it comes to certain live-action adaptations of DC superheroes.
Black lightning and Static Shock are some of the best superhero shows ever
Bro I was hoping the Black Lightning show would have him mentoring Static Shock.
That would've been cool
James Gunn bringing Mr Terrific into the first Dcu movie is amazing to see because he’s honestly one of my favorite black superheroes. Hopefully static shock comes in at some point too
Static Shock is the GOAT. Growing up with him and reruns of Spider-Man were awesome.
Luke cage, mr terrific, blue marvel*, John Stewart, Falcon - that took way longer than I wanna admit
Fuck, I'm so annoyed Luke Cage didn't come to mind. Quite enjoyed his Netflix show. My list was Black Panther, Spectrum, Blue Marvel, John Stewart and Blade.
@@Raelyn I had Black Panther, Cyborg, John Stewart, Ironheart and War Machine... Ironic that it seems most I think of do either have lightning powers or are technology users.
@@Quinz128 a lot of superhero are clones of previous superhero. Early batman was the clone of the shadow. Very few original characters.
Even jon Stewart used lighting powers, once in static shock.
This is an amazing video. I couldn't agree more with all of your points. Seriously, bro, well done.
Bro Without Dwayne McDuffie a lot of the milestone characters are just left to rot sadly.
DC animation has also taken a big decline since Dwayne McDuffie passed away
Your content isn't even negative. You're just spitting up straight up facts dog, don't let the haters get to you man. Keep up the good content, I'll always watch.
It's not too difficult to name black heroes without electric powers. Off the top of my head.
ICON
Blue Marvel
Cloak
Luke Cage
Mr Terrific
You can get there with just X-Men characters:
Bishop
Darwin
Gateway
M
Sunspot
...and Teen Titans:
Cyborg
Herald
Bumblebee
Pantha
Joto
@@irrevenant3i am 99% sure that cyborg has some form of electric manipulation I mean he's a robot, a robot with no electricity is like cereal with no milk
@@user-xh4ov1so1pYou could be right. I've never seen him use it though. Unless you're counting things like interfacing with electrical equipment under lightning powers.
@@irrevenant3sunspot is black? I thought he was Brazilian
Sir. This entire video was nothing less than 💯. Especially the CW’s treatment of Black Lightning and Mr. Terrific. And the Tobias Whale/Uncle Ruckus comparison was spot on.
Yeah I laughed when he brought up Uncle Ruckus, cuz I have always thought the same! 😂
Icon and Static deserve more attention from DC, like static shock had a popular Cartoon that made him popular. Look at Miles Morales, he has basically become The spider man for this new generation due to how many things his in but also by how great his movies, game and comics are. (Edit: Why does everytime I mention Miles as a good example in a comment, it devolves into people that hate Miles trying to justify their opinion that he is a terrible character?)
I am getting a little tired of them using Spiderman content across different forms of media to set up Miles. I hear they're planning on doing it with the live action movies as sell. I kind of wish they would do something different like may set up Mayday Parker as Spidergirl. And i can agree on Static Shock. I'd love to see a movie based on the animated series
No they don't. DC has WAY BETTER Black characters than Marvel. They have multiple iconic characters, and DC creates an entire comic book series every Black History Month. You don't see Marvel doing that + the only popular African American Marvel character is Miles Morales (who is a rip off of Static Shock). DC has PLENTY of popular African American characters
. Green Lantern John Stewart
. Static Shock
. Icon
. Cyborg
. Black Lightning
. Rocket
. Bronze Tiger
. Steel
. Nubia
. Natasha Irons
. Black Manta
. Aqualad
. Firestorm (Jason Rush) + (Jefferson Jackson)
. Kid Flash (Wallace West) etc
Peter Parker is Marvel's standard bearer. Miles Morales will never be as big as Peter Parker. As for his movies, Miles only has an animated feature to his credit. Peter Parker's games and comics were always far better.
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp The problem with Mayday/Spider-Girl is that they need a happily married Peter Parker for that, and marvel will never do that in the mainline comics if Paul is any indicator of that(plus we saw what they did to Ben Reilly, they just don't want anyone aside from Peter to have the title, Miles is popular enough to out shine Peter in some regards. Otherwise he would suffer a similar fate)
I agree but Why would they when they can oversaturate characters like Batman, Superman, Harley Quinn etc even when they have Cyborg he feels like a background character or plot device. DC just doesn't feel confident in other characters Hell WW can barley keep up with Bats and Sups
So… white guy here, for as much as that may matter, BUT… I grew up watching Static Shock, Justice League/Unlimited, and essentially any piece of remotely superhero-like media (Danny Phantom, Ben 10, Samurai Jack, Generator Rex, etc) especially since my dad, who was a teenager in the 80s, had been a comic book fan, and shared all of his interests with me growing up, and now I love them more than he does. Now that I’ve given some back story, let’s get to the meat.
Dwayne McDuffie is the GOAT. He had his fingers in all the best pie. Unfortunately, I have been unable to purchase the Milestone compendiums yet, but I will, as soon as I have the money, so that I can read his and the other Milestone writers’ works. Static Shock had a profound effect on me though, and is probably one of the earliest shows I remember watching that made me think, especially with episodes about school shootings, racism, etc. Static should get a show or movie, and it should be top-tier, with a dedication to Dwayne McDuffie. But past that, Icon and Rocket should also, absolutely, get a trilogy of movies, at the least. And yes, some people will say that the Milestone characters should stay in their own universe, but I disagree, because I was 11 or so when Young Justice came out, and I think if done right, having the Milestone characters added to the DC sandbox can lead to greatness, similar to the Charleston characters, Fawcett characters, etc. They can and should all have their place. DC has just mismanaged their characters way too much, and brought on these new writers who only want to create a legacy for themselves by making new characters that check boxes or are self-inserts, rather than using the pre-existing characters to tell great stories. Don’t get me wrong, a new character every once in a while would be awesome, especially if they are unique and fresh… but that never happens. It’s always just a reskinned character. Literally.
Now, if we look past the Milestone of it all, like you said, Vixen, John Stewart, Mr. Terrific are all fantastic. But then you’ve got Steel, who I personally find awesome. Yes, some may say he is a Superman rip-off, but for the story he was introduced in, it makes sense, and if you/DC want a “black Superman”, but don’t want Icon, he’s perfect. You did mention Black Lightning, but I want to give him special focus, because I also really like him, mainly for the fact he is a teacher. Always thought it would cool to play his character kind of like Morgan Freeman’s character in Lean On Me (I’m pretty sure that’s the movie), where he’s a teacher turned principal doing everything he can to turn a school around, trying to help the good kids shine and stay out of trouble, but also getting the bad kids out to make it safe for the others, while others move against him. And he’s a leader of The Outsiders. Just remove Batman from the equation, and let Sapphire Stagg fund the team or something. Obviously you talked about Cyborg as well, and while I think Cyborg is great, he’s apparently just incredibly difficult to give new material, because all they can ever do is write him as this “am I man or machine” story, and he desperately needs something new, but I think he is best suited being a Titan, and then helping from the background like the other New Teen Titans as the next generation comes up, and being a member of the League when they need him, but give him something more to do than be transportation and communications PLEASE. I like Batwing/Luke Fox as opposed to Jace, the other Batman, but hate the name Batwing. I think he should be called Gargoyle personally, and have him, Tim Drake, and Barbara team up to lead Wayne Tech and develop new technology for all kinds of uses, but mainly to help people, while also doing superhero stuff on the side. I don’t know enough about Naomi, but I have heard good things about her in the past, so… maybe? And I know he’s a villain, but Bronze Tiger in the Suicide Squad could be very compelling if done right. Past them… I’m sure there are other characters that just aren’t coming to mind right now, but they waste so many of their characters as it is, of any race, gender, etc, we’ll probably never see the greatness I always imagine. We can always hope though, especially with what Gunn and Safran have been cooking.
*Static is criminally underutilized. Loved that show*
The disrespect milestone gets is insane. When the return was announced, ppl were hyped but immediately abandoned the comics because static comic mentioned blm
They dog piled it, and then they killed the line, and like no body on comic book, youtube would cover it. It felt like a set up
oh wow a black characters mentions black lives matter, clearly their woke. Such idocy, like dude
Y'all forgot about Jim Valentino's ShadowHawk. From Image comics. He's a black character. Then we got obscure but dope black characters like Night Thrasher, Rage, Triathlon, BloodWynd, and Sentinel. None of these guys have lightning based powers and two of them don't have any powers at all. Just highly trained abilities.
Shadowhawk was sick
"Shadow", "Night" 😭
If I was writing these Black Characters I give them new stories and new villains to battle.
They definitely need that. Static is in a good place because of his show. If other characters got a similar treatment, then it could work.
in general most of the DC heroes need better rogues, Batman and Superman had a lot, maybe Flash and Teen titans too
but Green lantern? Black lightning? Martian manhunter? arrow? Almost nothing
They did exactly that with Cyborg during Rebirth, but fucking no one was reading that book. It was dope, cause they got into Cyborg dealing with robotic and cybernetic villains on his own. Like, they made Kilgore his arch nemesis for a while and it was awesome. People just didn’t read it. It was a damn fun book, too.
Most DC heroes thought of as “lacking villains” have plenty but the company underuses them severely
Yeah in typical fashion Batman seems to be the only one writers seem to be interested in giving a great line up of Villians
I need more Static and Black Lightning in DC media, James Gunn heat our prayers
1. War Machine.
2. Firestorm.
3. Cyborg.
4. Steel.
5. Green Lantern.
The misuse and mistreatment of both Ray Fisher and John Boyega characters in their respective cinematic universes needs to be studied
One done by an asshole director and the other because a crooked company that wanted the franchise more appealing to overseas.
I'm telling u.especially John boyega.
I am Gonna BE honest John boyegas Character Finn was Ass since the beginning. The only interesting Part about Finn was the First give minutes with him ,the Moment He escaped with Poe Finn was an annoying Character that only Had very few good Moments Like him Standing Up against Emo Vader but thats it and that was all in TFA. I cannot pretend Finn was an interesting Character ruined by Roman Johnson since Finn was a complete pathetic Joke since TFA
China is the reason you're looking for. Gotta appeal to the largest overseas market. And boy howdy, those chines folks do not like black people.
@@Percival983John was a damn tragedy
I'm actually not mad that they cut Martian manhunter. The scenes they showed made me wonder why he was checking up on lois instead of helping the other heroes with the threat he had to have known was there
9:20 The writer was enjoying this too much.Make me think who is he
Black Lightning and Nubia should be more popular, as DCs first black hero and first black female hero they arguably should DCs first picks when needing a black character in something.
Error- Vox is the first Black DC hero and his wife Bumblebee is the first Black DC Heroine.
Nubia starts her story off as a villain who slowly reforms into a Wonder Woman mantle- share. This is why she doesn't show up often, despite her 1973 debut.
Black Lightning didn't show up until 1977, same year as Bumblebee, but about a few weeks after her.
Vixen shows up first in a planned 1978 debut, but it got delayed to the early 80's.
Mal Duncan has a 1970 debut which even predated John Stewart in 1971.
Bumblebee is often first picked in many adaptations of DC comics for a good reason. She's a teenage female version of the Atom...and his ex-sidekick. (Excuse me, ex-partner...everyone on the Titans feel the same way as Arsenal about being called sidekicks.)
This is even referenced in DC's official history...although Karen and Mal often argue whether John, Jeff and Mari were first or if it was them in modern-continuity. Karen says John, Jeff and Mari, Mal says them for both continuity and publication.
Logically, Mal's right...he and Karen were first.
The Teen Titans were known for being way pavers.
Vox debuts as the first black superhero and about a week or two later his wife gets in on the act, then John, Jeff and Mari...but John tends to get "saucy" about being a GL-shareholder in his early days...which is why he floated over everyone's heads...and disgusted everyone except Hal (who recommended it) at first until the Xanshi incident gave him a wakeup call.
Static is more popular due to being younger I think. Hell, being young is largely why Peter Parker as Spider-Man became so huge despite not being the first Superhero. Comic readers were mostly young and latched onto Peter's more relatable struggles with school/dating/bullies etc
Nowadays those fans are older and relate to the adult versions of Peter from Spider-Verse and the Insomniac games, meanwhile Miles has sort of picked up some of that younger fan popularity. I think Static fills that similar fan demand, or at least he did when his show was airing.
Didn't Nubia get that Tumblr looking comic a while back?
@@wakkaseta8351 yes...and it was odd. Nubia also got a more proper Wonder Woman title at the time too and they had even given her a Future State special where she was connected to African mythology concerning "Aunt Nancy's" flyswatter ex-machina.
The static shock situation is kinda of a legal thing he is and isn’t in the DC comic but he’s kinda like miles morales where he’s is his own separate universe
Well they messed up letting that character go because he was better than any new one
Miles is "main" universe in comics at this point
An ICON movie would be genuinely great, it’s the perfect black Superman movie and he’s literally a character begging to become an ICONIC (pun intended) on-screen character. We should be on our third ICON actor by now and he should be bigger and more recognizable than Black Panther.
DC has so many interesting black characters but choose to ignore them is really frustrating. Especially with the ones they do use like John Stewart and Cyborg are often used more like tokens with teams that have mostly white characters.
Blessing in disguise in my opinion because today they cannot handle any Character without pushing some idiotic Agenda and writing IT so badly IT completely Ruins the Character for everyone
Tombstone, Misty Knight, Power Man, Black Goliath, Spider Punk, Falcon, Blade, Black Panther, Puff Adder, Brother Voodo
1. John Stewart
2. Mr. Terrific
3. Spawn
4. Riri Williams
5. Steel
6. Black Panther
7. Falcon
8. War Machine
9. Afro (Afro Samurai)
10. Allison Hargreeves
11. Kaname Tōsen
12. Luke Cage
14. Blade
15. Nick Fury
16. Shuri (Black Panther)
17. Jet Black
18. Sister Krone
Still upset that most people think Static’s name is “Static Shock” just because the show was titled that.
Anyways, Static Shock is awesome.
'Static Shock' is a pretty cool superhero name tho.
Nothing new. There's people who actually think Samus Aran is called "Metroid" and that "Zelda" is the elf boy with the sword.
SO GLAD someone brought this up.
How could you guys forget my boy
John “Halo” 117 😎
10:00 THIS. Started with the new 52 and it felt weird. Shit, he works better in Doom Patrol than the JLA, but he belongs in the Titans. He was the best character in Zacks JLA though.
Exactly, and not to mention that during his time as a member of the Teen Titans/Titans and in the Doom Patrol show, he was written as an actual character rather than just the token black tech guy
kills me that more people don’t mention Mr.Terrific. fam is dope as hell
I binge watched Static Shock like a month ago, and i am not gonna lie it was fire. It's social criticism done right.
If written well, a Static Animated/Live Action movie has the potential to go toe to toe with spider verse
R.i.p Dwayne McDuffie fr.
They're gonna make it weird
9:21 I beg your pardon. On CW?
Cyborg, Icon, Hardwire, Steel, John Stewart, Vixen and Static Shock deserves a Solo Movies!
Agreed with the caveat that i'd rather see _Icon and Rocket_ than a solo Icon movie. Those two bouncing off each other with their very different perspectives is a large part of the point.
I want an Icon and Rocket project so bad!!
I completely agree because after reading about them, their characters are so interesting because there is a dynamic between these two that is really interesting to see because essentially they grow from being partners to pseudo father and daughter, and it makes it more inspiring that Rocket propelled icon to become a superhero, which I find so refreshing Because she wants to generally help their community more ways than one and even go global to help the world and also seeing their viewpoint of how they handle certain topics because icon has such a I would say fashion look on life where as Raquel brings in that spark of hope for a better future which most of time they often clash would you want another regarding these ideology but that’s what makes them such a unique pair imo.
I'm a white man, and I agree with EVERY point you make in this video. Glad Mr Terrific is going to be in the new Superman movie. I just hope to see the Milestone project if it ever comes to fruition. Icon and Rocket are great, and Static is awesome.
The Milestone characters in Young Justice were also a lot of fun, but just not enough.
And Dwayne McDuffey created so much of my childhood, including the JL and JLU cartoons.
Mr. Sinister? You mean Mr. Terrific? Because Superman and X-men are two completely different things.
@@thewatchman13 yeah that's what I meant.
SO ON POINT W/ THIS, YOU'RE ON TO SOMETHING. THIS TOPIC IS WELL DESERVING OF A BIG DOCUMENTARY. GREAT JOB 👍🏽👍🏽
People who say you're negative are straight trippin given the fact that you praise major and sidelined characters consistently in your vids while also providing cool info about them 🤧!!! This vid was so cathartic to watch btw, I wholeheartedly agree, especially as Static, John stewart GL, Vixen, and Black Lightning are some of my fav DC heroes :/ and exposing lesser known black heroes, like Icon, could really inspire a generation or create new fans of the character !!! They're sitting on a gold mine fr
They really need to get this Blade movie on track. The first Blade movie is one of the most beloved superhero movies of all time. As long as the script is decent you have strong potential to smash through these sub 100 mill openings that have been plaging the movie industry this summer.
Facts!!! Characters like Static Shock, Cyborg and John Stewart need their own solo movies. These guys have the potential of becoming household names.
Static and John yes. Vic, no. Cyborg is not a leading man. He works best as a support character on a team in my opinion.
bro was so caught up with milestone , that he forgot the black people in the batfam , like The Signal 😭
Duke Thomas would be a dope robin , signal is a stupid name and lazy costume design
@@Z.200 *clenches heart , dies * bro you so brutal to my man ah . 😭
@@Z.200 He’s much better as The Signal than another Robin. They just need to actually UTILIZE him. He’s the only Batfam member working in the morning and has superpowers. Also hes in college, he could be interesting given the chance. If u really had to change his name I’d honesty go with something like Eclipse or Equinox because of his powerset.
@@ThePlotMaster1 I fw him being robin since he started out in “we are robin” and his adult robin appearances in “zero year” and “white knight”
Cassandra was the last person added to the Bat-family that people cared about.
It'd be cool to see vixen in the new dcu.
Keep up the passionate.
Been waiting on a John Stewart anything
9:06 chocolate covered incredible is insane😂😂😂😂
I loved him in the show
10:24: I too never cared for the decision to have Cyborg on the Justice League, especially as J’onn J’onnz replacement in the big 7. Just make Martian Manhunter’s human form, John Jones, black. He was obscure and only became known in pop culture in the 2000s. There wouldn’t be any real pushback against that. In fact, almost every piece of DC extended media already does that. Just put that in the comics.
Vixen is one of my favorite DC heroines, she's definitely been underutilized by the company
Nah, what's up with black heroes with electric powers, tho?
Also, why is Black Power Ranger never black!? They give him every other color!!
This video has me questioning alot!😂
More serious note: As a black nerd, I really want to see more black heroes in the spotlight. DC has tried to spotlight Black Characters but really failed in the attempts. Also black characters in media aren't taken too well, especially in other countries. One example is black panther poster art being changed for the world wide release hiding chadwicks face with the cowl of the black panther.
Or robotic, cybernetic ones like Steel, Cyborg & Batwing.
there only about 6 black heros with electric powers.
Marvel has 100x better black superheroes than DC
@@tracark2255 I think the problem is that it's considered a trope, because there are enough black heroes with lightning powers to become a trope
@@NHTube1 nope
The character of Icon if done right on the big screen is exactly what black folk of all generations would fall in love with imo. That character has the most potential out of all Black DC or comic book characters in general to be something more than what they are. From the way he’s written, well spoken, impact on younger black comic characters like rocket, static, hardware etc..helped free slaves in the Underground Railroads and eventually but force , his design all of the above and then some.
JAMES GUNN USE ICON PLEASE!! Milestone Characters have a lot of depth to them and great storylines that tie into the DC merger.
Been waiting to see Icon and Static on the big screen but it’s like DC forgets they have actual black characters. Lol
Recently I've been wanting to see a push for Jace Fox, even though some people find him irrelevant if Bruce is still around.
But really he doesn't have to be *Batman* - he can just be Batwing.
as much as i am a die-hard batman fan, GOD does DC need to step it up with the development of their cast in general. JL and JLU are two of the coolest shows I've watched and I LOVED vixen in it sm I am so sad she isn't pushed. The appeal of JL and JLU is the interactions between a lot of the cast of the JLA and I got attatched to so many of them and I feel like DC just planted a seed and forgot to give it water. I was first exposed to static shock, icon, and rocket through young justice and I thought they was pretty cool and I dunno much about them and milestone, but they are definitely characters that deserve attention and proper development.
Preach!
2 words. Dwayne McDuffie. That’s why the 2000-2005 era was so great
I grew up with John Stewart as Green Lantern and he was awesome, I want more of him.
Mr. Terrific
Steel
Vixen
Cyborg
Batwing
John Stewart, Steel, Blade, War Machine and Spawn. DAMN I'm good!!!
Cloak, bishop etc
falcon,black panther, Mr terrific
I know most of those. Isn't Mister terrific a new god?
@greenskull3384 mr terrific is the smartest person in dc, not a new god, youre thinking of mr miracle
@@kadegetslaid634 Thanks. I only vaguely remember Mr Miracle from the DCUA. The Jack Kirby's Jimmy Olsen Adventures r on my comics list, but it's going to be a good long while before I get to them. I'll have to look into Mister Terrific.
Had to give you a like mane that Zro edit had me dying 😂
This video is definitely resonant! An Icon movie with a re-engineered version of Jayden's Icon as the theme would feed families for generations 😂
Marvel has always ran circles around DC when it came to non-white heroes. From Storm, BP, Blade and Cage to Miles, Kamala and Shang Chi.
No they don't. DC has WAY BETTER Black characters than Marvel. They have multiple iconic characters, and DC creates an entire comic book series every Black History Month. You don't see Marvel doing that + the only popular African American Marvel character is Miles Morales (who is a rip off of Static Shock). DC has PLENTY of popular African American characters
. Green Lantern John Stewart
. Static Shock
. Icon
. Cyborg
. Black Lightning
. Rocket
. Bronze Tiger
. Steel
. Nubia
. Natasha Irons
. Black Manta
. Aqualad
. Firestorm (Jason Rush) + (Jefferson Jackson)
. Kid Flash (Wallace West)
. Vixen
. Signel
Marvel fanboy detected
. Green Lantern John Stewart
. Static Shock
. Icon
. Cyborg
. Black Lightning
. Rocket
. Bronze Tiger
. Steel
. Nubia
. Natasha Irons
. Black Manta
. Aqualad
. Firestorm (Jason Rush) + (Jefferson Jackson)
. Kid Flash (Wallace West)
. Vixen
. Signel
. Hardware
. Cassandra Cain
. Green Lantern Jessica Cruiz
. Lady Shiva
. Black Adam
. Blue Beetle (Jaime Reyes)
. Ra's Al Ghul
. Talia Al Ghul etc
You were saying...
DC literally had a whole line created by and for people of colour
@@karimdavis7065Black Panther and Storm are 100000x better than all those characters combined. What do you mean Miles is a ripoff of Static? The only similarities is the electric powers. Miles has invisibility and Spider Powers that make him unique. What the fuck are you talking about when you say Miles is the only popular black marvel character? Black Panther? Storm? Luke Cage? Blade? Lmfao. DC fanboy detected. Also characters like Vixen, Bronze Tiger, Icon, Firestorm, and Nubia are extremely obscure and no one gives a shit about them. Stop lying and saying that they’re popular because they’re not. Just because DC does that and Marvel doesn’t does not mean DC has better black characters
If you want a good Cyborg interpretation, you should check out Doom Patrol
Doom Patrol is such an underrated show in general. Very well written, and really absurd and funny
As much as i liked John Stewart in JL and JLU, he was honestly the most boring member of the team to me. Most of his stories were taken from Kyle Reiner or Hal Jordan.
I mean same thing with Barry Allen and Wally West took writers take wallys personality and swap it with barry
@hoodiek6802 sort of, but i'd say he had more of Wally West's personality. I'd say they did that more in the Flash CW show.
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lpBarry was nothing like Wally in the cw tv show, also people only say Barry’s taking Wally personally when he cracks a couple of jokes which is werid bc Barry has always been the most light hearted character in the JL and a jokester. Just that a lot of Barry’s jokes are dads jokes, or jokes that are funny only bc of how awkward the timing or delivery was.
But how does that make him a bad character in the JLU???? Also a lot of elements in Wally west was taken from Barry in the JLU, like how Wally was basically a swap of Barry Allen, living a similar life style, and same exact origin as Barry Allen
@2kx62 I'm more saying he took Wally's personality because he wouldn't stop talking. He always had the drop on villains and then he would Crack a joke. And he would lose a lot. It got old and wasn't very funny. I'd always considered Barry to be wiser and thought things through better(aside from Flashpoint).
5:26 milestone would have done better under Image Comics even under Marvel
I've been saying this shit for YEARS with everyone assuming I'm racist just because I think raceswapping characters probably isn't the best form of representation, especially when you ALREADY have such interesting black characters that kids of all different kinds of backgrounds grew up on like Steel, Black Lightning, Static, Icon, Cyborg, Mr Terrific, Vixen, John Stewart, and a market that craves more originality.
I’m a white man I would be super interested in seeing DC/WB bringing milestones to big screen or small screen and have them become iconic like Batman and Superman.
Marvel black heroes are way better than DC black heroes
Unfortunately they won't lol
rocket and icon were in young justice cartoon, but didnt really do anything