Who Is Batman's GREATEST Robin?
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
- In this week with the Comic Lads, we break down & debate who takes the spot at the top of Batman's Robins. From the stubborn Damian Wayne, to the reckless Jason Todd, to the detective Tim Drake, & the very first boy wonder, Dick Grayson, who comes out on top?
Let us know your favourite Robin down below!
0:00 Intro
1:27 Damian Wayne
6:14 Jason Todd
8:47 Tim Drake Vs Dick Grayson
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Let us know who YOUR favourite Robin is ! 🤔🐦⬛🦇
Dick Grayson
Damian is my favorite. He is just so brash and intentionally a terrible kid that he is funny to read, and it gives Batman a different dilemma, instead of teaching a Robin to fight, Batman has to teach the kid how to be a good kid as well as a hero who has morals.
Not Tim Drake. Where's Bernard ??
Damian isn’t my favorite Robin but Grant Morrison’s run where Dick is Batman and Damian is his Robin is one of my favorite stories.
Mine is Dick Grayson because it shows how much he grew as a character when he was Robin
Dick is the best character and best overall hero.
Tim is the best Robin.
Yes 100% agree
Tim isn't a good fighter though, he's a good detective though !
@brandonholloman6835 He's an amazing fighter just not as good as Dick or Jason but he's beaten Damien plenty of times.
You're absolutely spot on 👌
Dick became RIC GRAYSON.
Tim became THE JOKER
IN BATMAN BEYOND.
Tim is THE best Robin he's not a sidekick like the rest of the robins hes a partner to Batman hes able to stand next to Batman instead of being in his shadow and he has the skillset to prove it
Tim WANTS to be Robin too unlike the others, he’s dedicated to it🫡
@@comicladsTim is smarter than Batman that everyone in dc is smarter character than Batman Tim is nothing special
@@yarc9 i had a seizure while reading this
@@RetroG64every character in dc is smarter character than Batman
@@RetroG64superman is smarter than Batman
Dick has firmly cemented himself as Nightwing for decades and represents true growth. Tim Drake to me will always be to me the definitive status quo Robin.
Even though he’s now a bisexual?
@@taraishot100😭🤣😭What does that have to do with being Robin 🤣😭
@@taraishot100yea Dick Is the most athletic robin
Damien is the most instinctive robin
And Tim is the best detective Robin that's the way I see it
Tim, absolutely. He’s got the right mind and mindset for it, he worked the hardest to earn it, and he’s the most reliable and devoted to the role.
Fellow Tim fanboy here
Here's a bit of a hot take, Dick and Damien are my favorite Batman and Robin combo. It was fun to see a lighthearted Batman and a really serious Robin
Not a hot take at all. I'm still bitter how the New 52 reboot took that dynamic away.
Dick created Robin, but Tim made Robin a standalone hero
Dick is the overall best, Jason is well Jason, Tim is the best detective, and Damian doesn’t get his own footing until his own run but him and Bruce in the current Batman and robin run are great.
I'd say Jason is the most effective crime fighter. He genuinely got shit done during Under the Hood.
This is one of the most valid points made on this topic ever
@@sageoverheaven jason is my fav because he is actually feared by alot of thugs and criminals like batman but jason actually gets the job done by killing them unlike batman. and thats why there scared.
@@sageoverheaven yes
Wym abt Jason?
Personally I have always loved Tim Drake specifically as Robin. Probably cause I grew up with the New Adventures of Batman and Teen Titans. But if I were to go with who is my favorite “sidekick” to Batman it would have to be Nightwing/Dick Grayson. Thank you guys for your content! You both are awesome!
Teen titans robin is Dick. He just uses the staff like Tim for some reason.
Really nicely put. Dick will always hold a special place in our heart ❤️ Thank you for your support!
Teen titans robin is Dick Grayson
While Dick is the bird who could fly from the nest without barely being taught, Jason was the bird who was wounded and fell from the nest but was still able to learn how to fly on his own. Also upon his return from death, Jason also trained withe league of assassins and aquired some level of mystical training and the ability to summon magical blades against enimies of pure evil. There was also his time with the outlaws and his very interesting relationship with Bizarro. I feel like Jason's main weakness is his estranged relationship with Batman because part of his greatest strengths as a character is being the broken mirror of his mentor, the fallen son, the black sheep. But because Batman could never bend his code to kill and even more so impose that rule on his family, he can never reconcile this fact for Jason as it does too much to progress the relationship and offers to much charachter growth for American Comics status quo. With the way they are currently written they have to stay at odds innorder for Jason to continue to shine as an anti hero/outlaw and Batman being resolute on not tolerating anyone of his family killing people.
The comics dont handle jason well, I think its better off if he does his own thing from a distance
@@IIIISaiI don’t like him in Batman stories but red hood and the outlaws is lit af
There is a flaw in your "not tolerating anyone of his family killing people" statement: Alfred "I do not subscribe to such niceties" Pennyworth.
That said, I think Jason does better as a reminder that even the Batman can fail, and the friction it creates between the two is where their dynamic is at its best. With the other Robins, though, he has a much more relaxed relationship. They are like a group of siblings, where Jason and Damien are the heavies, Tim is the brain (though all of them are highly intelligent, they all recognize Tim as the smartest of them), and Dick is the older brother that provides the words of wisdom that help them all move forward.
I could quite literally go for a comic just called "The Robins" just to watch them shine in their own right as their own mini-league.
@@tmac8396They literally made that comic and no one bought it.
Before the writers at DC Comics destroyed him it was Tim Drake
It was never Tim drake. He litter the most forgettable robin
I'm sorry but i love damian 😭 i mean how else do you expect a kid to turn out under the absolutely RUTHLESS training of the league of assassins. like his mom literally ingrained in him to be stealth killer machine. Ever since he first became Robin, under Bruce's training he has found a family and he's learning to be, well, human. He's unlearning a lot of stuff he was taught in the league of assassins and trying to put his bloody past behind. He isn't at fault, his mom is. But he's slowly regaining his footing especially since lazurus island.
my ranking is 1 damian 2 tim 3 dick & jason
Actually a lot of Damian growth both in the comics and the DCAMU (he haven´t really being around anywhere else) is because of Dick, actually for a little while it was funny that Batman was the light side (yes, Dick is definetely worth of a blue ring) and Robin (Damian) the dark side
@@carlosquilez3256 yeah definitely! Damian was Dick's Robin and his positive personality helped Damian out a lot.
two words: Cassandra Cain. who had an even MORE abusive "childhood" than Damian, yet was able to understand killing was wrong. if she can do it, why can't Damian? also, if he is never held to a heroic standard, why should he ever WANT to act that way?
@@helenafarkas4534 girlypop Cassandra is a lot older than Damian meaning that she's a lot more mature. That's why she isn't as bratty as him. Btw, have you ever heard of conflicting morals? Killing bad people before they start influencing or taking the lives of the innocent is morally subjective. It is not inherently good or bad in a general sense. Every person has a different nature and thought process. Cassandra thinks killing people is wrong regardless of their crimes, and Damian thinks that killing people before the crimes escalate is the right thing to do. This is because of their own individual beliefs. Also, Cassandra didn't kill anyone in the real world until she was 8 years old and then she ran away. I suspect Damian was a lot younger when he made his first kill. Before Damian could even develop any sense of morality, he was taught by his mother that killing was okay. Also, no one holds Damian to a heroic standard but as he meets the Bat Family and sees how much good they're doing in the world, he starts holding himself to a heroic standard because he starts believing in his father's mission of fighting evil. I also belive it's in part because he wants to please Bruce.
I’ve never really understood the Damian hate
Try killing nightwing in injustice,getting alfred killed when Thomas Wayne got in main timeline,being very insufferable and entintled,taking a lot of time to grow out of what i said above and sooo on
@@nikitahatamov4312
Injustice Damian is NOT the real Damian Wayne in the same way that Tim Drake is NOT the real Tim Drake in Batman Beyond and the animated series.
I don't get it either
Damian is my favorite robin and even I can understand the hate. It's usually because he's annoying, pompous, and always picking a fight. Pair that with writers constantly butchering his character and making him the most unlikable piece of crap (injustice), most have a negative perception of him. Also, some of the best iterations of him (supersons, DCAU) are forgotten or have been discontinued.
@@lorilynne571 i fail to understand how and when he is likeable,and about last lart its because writers understood that Damien is lost cause
I think Dick and Tim are tied for first for different reasons. While I have a bias to say Dick is my favorite, Tim was there to purposely put himself in batman's life because he needed a hero as well. Dick was (un)lucky circumstance but still did a lot for Bruce as well.
I dont know how to word this but
As ROBIN, Tim is the best
but out of all the robins, Dick Grayson is the best one.
I can agree with that
Perfect!!!!
I called that 900 number back in the day to get rid of Jason. For years we thought Jason was like Uncle Ben or Bucky and he could never come back... Guess comics can never leave the dead to rest in peace.
Dick was the best Robin because he was the first and laid the ground work for what any other Robin must be capable of in order to fill the role. What makes Dick and Jason so good is that they grew up and moved on from being children to adults with their own identities. Tim needs a growth arc from Red Robin into something else as he ages. And Damien is the current Robin, excessivley serious and thinking he knows everything, needing to learn how to be a child and that in turn teaches Bruce that he needs to relax. The mission does not always come first.
You are so right
Grayson will always be my favorite. He's the one who started it all. he is loved by other heroes, his Bat-family always needed him. Damian respected him. Bruce always thought of him as his oldest son, Alfred trusted him so much that he gave all his inheritance to Grayson, and he's also the leader of the Teen Titans. Even in the comics even the bad guys knows he's the first Robin.
Todd was never a Robin, he is but the essence of him being a Robin wasn't there. but it was a good call that they killed him off because he's the most hated Robin back in the days. but people loved him as Red Hood.
Drake though not my personal favorite but he is the true successor of Grayson as Robin. He's basically Grayson's Robin 2.0. Sadly nowadays comic book writers doesn't know what to do with his character anymore, it's like he's stuck where he is.
Damian..... I like Damian as a character, but not as Robin. I understand why people doesn't like him, he's arrogant and annoying. But for me I think the writer really wants him to be the embodiment of a youngest in the Bat-family. Though I think it's not that bad, because there are plenty of rooms to improve in his character development. as his story progress he starts to become mature especially in the recent comics.
My overall, I'm going with Grayson, Drake, Damian, and Todd.
Jason has so much potential as a character, due to the unique nature of how the writers decided his death. It's also cool how short his Robin run was compared to the other 3, which means that his character getting retconned works the best. It just sucks that writers absolutely have no idea what they're doing with his character nowadays.
For all the issues I have with Morrison's Batman run, when they (Morrison goes by they/them) made Dick Batman that was awesome.
Dick is the robin which best exemplifies what the mantle is meant for, and Tim is the robin who never wants to move out of bruce’s shadow and instead to one day fill his shoes.
I absolutely love this back and forth style of conversation. You guys play off each other super well! You got a sub from me!
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I don’t get the “Jason’s Robin career didn’t happen” mindset. He’s has a sh!t ton of stories as Robin and much more charecter than just angry boy. Jason at his best was an ally kid turned bookworm who valued life until life no longer valued him. He’s not just red rood or the Robin that died. Just imagine- if Jason wasn’t killed by the joker there is a good chance he would’ve gladly became Batman and that’s not a stretch of the imagination. I blame the New 52 for dumbing him down and the industry in general that kept him that way. Loved the video, but boy do I have my problems with modern day forever red hood with no reason to continue his non existent war on crime (nothing in a modern day red hood story means anything, Jason always goes back to being overly violent and canon back to status quo). It’s a rough time being a Jason Supporter
That being said Tim is still top choice imo
Thanks for watching! Agreed it’s a very rough time being a Jason fan , especially when his character is never allowed to grow/evolve and instead constantly regresses to his murderous self from when they first brought him back to life
I love Jason and think you put a lot of passion into your thought here, but I’ve gotta say I disagree, the New 52 was the best thing to ever happen to Jason his story with the outlaws is some of the best and most underrated of the entire new 52. For all of the faults and misguided decisions they made with that era, he got the best of it. Prior to that as red hood he was very 1 dimensional hell bent on getting revenge for his death (hush - Battle for the cowl). Jason is awesome but its his failure as Robin, and his indomitable spirit that makes him awesome. He was never going to be Batman but that doesn’t define him nor does he need it.
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Tim Drake began as the 3rd Robin. Then
he became Red Robin. But DC made him
the Gay Robin. He was even turned into
The Drake wearing a brownish superhero outfit.
Tim also became the Future Batman who wanted to kill Batwoman. He was even Batman Beyond when Terry McGinnis died. He returned to being Robin.
Now he is the forgotten male Robin who isn't Nightwing, Red Hood or Damian.
Tim got me into comics and is my favorite comic character.
The first comic I read with him had him and batman chasing some bandits into a zoo or something. This was the early days of tim's career although I didn't kno that, I was a kid and didn't kno there was a difference. Batman tells robin to stand lookout on some lookout point so he does, while he goes to chase the bandits. While tim is up there he sees a guy with a gun, who is pretty suicidal. Tim talks him down from hurting himself or anyone else. Batman stops the bandits, as tim helps the guy get the help he needs.
And batman ends the comic with an internal monolog saying he knew he picked right with tim.
The thing that made me a fan of Tim was that he didn't need a mask or a cape to be a hero, he simply helped someone who needed it. Ever since then, I've loved that character
This video was great guys🔥feels like 2 friends just chatting and it’s hella authentic and intresting.keep going
And the sus jokes with Dick Grayson name top tier 💀😭
The only thing I disagree with is Tim becoming Batman. It seems that every time he becomes Batman, Tim turns evil.
It’s less Tim turns evil and more the world turns evil. Also we have seen a future where Tim was a good Batman and was married to Cassandra Cain
@the_well-known_stranger2275 I'm sorry what??? He married Cass???
@@darthrevan5976 before the writers decided to have Bruce adopted Cass they were building a romantic tension between Cass and Tim.
@the_well-known_stranger2275 wow I always Loved their dynamic as brother and sister so that feels wierd to imagine that
@@darthrevan5976 that dynamic came around after Cass was adopted. There was a brief period between Steph’s ‘death’ and Cass’s adoption where hints of a romantic relationship were developing between Tim and Cass.
I did not realize how new this video was, but I'm excited for more. I just found you guys today
I absolutely love damian, not as a robin or at the beginning of when he was introduced but now that he's matured more with more interesting and better writing.
The new Batman and Robin run in Dawn of DC makes Damien so much more fun. He's got a fun dynamic with Bruce where hes simultaneously trying to be Bruce's dad and equal while Bruce is trying to make Damien go to school and be a good dad to the only Bat Family member he has left.
Just subscribed because I am hoping you guys make that video on the whole batfamily. Great content, keep it up 👍
I really liked your pionts abt the different robins and I like the duo factor between you guys definitely subbing
For me I like Damian, mostly because I like the idea that he has to choose what who will will be the next Batman, or the demons head after his grand father dies. The other reason I like him is that he learns how to be a better person by the bat family Batman teaches him how to be a hero, Grayson teaches him how to be a regular kid, and Jon teaches him how to be a friend. Yes I know Jon is not part of the bat family but he was born in the bat cave so that kind of makes him a member of the bat family. All this being said, I’m a big fan of Damian character.
I agree with you. Damian is forever
torn between The Legacy Of The Bat
and The Legacy Of The Demon.
People who hate Damien and people who love him both contribute to his Popularity I love him because he has Skills
There is a *reason* why every single modern Robin costumes usually base off of two of Tim's suits. Hell, most of them even steal Tim's stylized 'R'.
In ranking of how they were as Robin
Tim>Grayson>Jason>Damian
In ranking of how they are when not Robin
Grayson>Jason>Tim>Damian
Honestly Damian isn’t bad like that like the only scenes people keep remembering are the whole injustice scene and even the whole Alfred passing away. But they don’t talk about the good things he done.
Fans do but not in this video.
My huge problem with Tom is that he keeps on reverting back to Robin and then back to Red Robin and it's confusing since Damian still also goes by Robin. (BTW my favorite Robin is Dick Grayson and he's also my favorite DC character period.)
Also, there were a few years' worth of pre-Crisis Jason stories when he was basically a carbon copy of Dick. For the Man Who Has Everything falls into this era. There is an interesting run as well where Nocturna almost becomes a pseudo-mother figure to him.The street orphan aspect was only introduced as a complete retcon after Crisis, and they killed him off quickly after that. So it is correct to say there are few canonical stories of Jason as Robin, but there are a lot more if you factor in the pre-Crisis version. Some of those stories directly contradict the post-Crisis story, but some could be weaved in with little fuss.
I used to hate damian for virtually the same reasons. But then I read his 2021 line and it made me look at him a bit differently. And his performance in Lazurus planet(which as a whole is a...interesting story. To say the least) where he's a group leader of sorts. They both showed growth and it was pretty cool to see in a character I otherwise thought would always stay the same.
Not gonns lie, i think damien is seriously underrated. His combat skills are insane, but he also become more human over time and learns to not be a hard ass.
I agree with you. But what did fans expect from a Robin who is tragically caught between The Bat and The Demon Head ??
How is Damien bad I'm the Animated movies? He has an awesome character ark. Goes from being a brat, to actually caring about others (as seen in Justice League: Apokolops).
When he "dies" he talks about how his dad made him a better person
The Damian hate off the jump was kinda wild
For me personally Tim Drake is my favorite because I got into Batman because of the Lego Batman games and the Arkham games in which Tim was the Robin. He was also the Robin for most seasons of Young Justice.
I liked Tim because how intelligent he was and how he became Robin by himself and had to put in a lot of work to prove himself to Batman that he can be worthy of being Robin. He also the longest solo series as Robin and was the first Robin who had a solo series and the series itself was really good you got to see Tim try to balance both sides of life and just to see him grow up and become his own man when he became Red Robin was great.
The only thing that bothers me is that he wasn't able to strike out on his own and become his own hero in the way Dick and Jason have done he was doing that before the New 52 but not anymore.
Despite how much DC wants to kill all interest in him and drive him into the ground, Tim is still the best Robin.
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Welcome lad 🫡 thank you for joining our crusade👊
I also hated damien when i first read his stuff, but then i read the superman run where john kent suddenly became an adult after travelling through space, and seeing him so happy to see his friend again made me love the kid. Then I read dceased, and while it is an elseworld story, it's damien at his best.
This vid came from a ranking to a debate about who is the best. I wouldn’t expect less from a hard ranking.
Dick Grayson is the best Robin because he was the original and oldest. He learned most everything from Batman but was not a complete sidekick to him. Dick left Batman because he saw the brutality and darkness of Batman and swore to himself he would find a better way. So he became nightwing who is pretty much just a lighter version of Batman. I’m pretty sure in some comics, nightwing has beaten Batman in a fight too. And he is such a good big brother to Damian.
Damian’s is a member of the league of assassins. His main weapons should be a sword!
Damian is my favorite Robin for sure! My head-canon is that he is autistic and being with batman was a chalenge for him cause all the rules he knew about the world wasn't the same anymore. He had difficulties adapting to the changes.
Damian doesn't need to be autistic.
He is an AL GHUL. The Demon's Family. Raised by Talia and Ra's to inherit and rule over The League of Assassins.
Were Bat fans expecting
"snails and puppy dogs tails" ???
My favorite Robin and DC character is Jason, I think his character is the most interesting and contrasted from the other Robins. Especially since Batman thought Jason only had two options. Batman thought if he didn't take Jason in he'd be a criminal for the rest of his life, or he'd be Robin and learn how to grapple his personal issues and turn to the right path; which is also ultimately the same path that got him killed
But I think the best AS a Robin is Dick Grayson, he held the mantle for the longest in universe, and he was honestly a combination of all the Robins after him. He was strong, but not the strongest, he was smart, but not the smartest, his combat skills were strong, but again not the strongest of the Robins in that field. I guess what he does have is speed and agility over all of them though, but overall I think he's the Jack of All Traits of the Robins. Also, really good videos guys, definitely gonna blow up in this comic book community frfr.
The point you bring up about Batman thinking Jason only had two options is a great one, and part of why, even though he didn’t literally kill Jason himself, his death is ultimately his failure. Thanks so much for watching and for your comment! We’re just getting started👀
I also think his being unpredictable and ruthless makes him more dangerous then the others
I only like Damian when he is with the Titans because I like him with Raven.
they’ll never make me hate you damian
Tim definitely is the best robin, but my favorite of all time has and always will be Jason Todd after he became the red hood he really serves as a dark reflection on the reality of the robin liange a tragic story told to robins as a warning of what could happen and he’s also a perfect fool for Bruce , Bruce has said numerous times that he doesn’t kill because he wouldn’t be able to stop himself but Jason can choose , Jason will make the hard choices the choices even Batman won’t do despite so much evidence that repeatedly showing , and telling bats that joker isn’t redeemable but he still tries it jason was failed and from that faulire I feel the best dynamic for any robin is Jason
Thank you, I now cannot unsee Damien being Young Sheldon
Ian Armitage doesn't look like an Al Ghul.
I hate them both pretty evenly
Damian is the best robin, not because is Batmans son, because he surpasses all robin in everything. He adapted Bruce Waynes believe on doing the right thing. So thats why he started holding back. But he's way smarter then all Robin's, n can fight longer then other Robin's. 2024™
Do you guys think your all about Tim Because he was your Robin? The one you were first introduced to ?
I actually loved Damien
Tim WAS the best robin. He is now dead, and has been for the past 13 years. And theres nothing you can do or say to convince me otherwise.
Proper tier list: Dick, Jason, Damian, Tim. As a 90s kid I’ve never recovered from Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker 🃏…
Tim Drake maybe the best Robin but he’s the most uninteresting character. I LOVE Dick’s and Jason’s character arch. Even Damien’s can be somewhat interesting.
The stagnation of Tim Drakes character progress reminds me of when fox never let Quicksilver say Magneto was his dad in The X-Men films, Years of hype that lead to nothing.
I feel like tim is bruce’s best robin. Tim is the robin who most wants to become batman, and has the best qualifications to be come the next batman. Plus he doesn’t have that same darkness bruce does since he grew up in a happy household and chose to chase down batman of his own accord rather than being chosen by bruce. I also feel like Damian and dick are a great legacy pairing for batman and robin. Bruce’s adoptive son, who is the best example of what bruce wants for his robins. He wants his robins to grow up and turn out better than him, happier than him, and dick did exactly that, outgrowing the need to be the next batman and eventually resenting the thought of him becoming the next batman, although he is most definitely the best and most well rounded candidate for the job. that paired up with damian who grew up being the antithesis to all that dick is. He had a dark upbringing where he was raised by the wrong people, eventually learning of who his father is and wanting to become the next batman even though he has none of the qualities for it. If dick wanted it he would be the best batman to have ever lived, and for a time he was, but because dick doesn’t want it and damian and jason have a warped sense of morality (and mortality in jason’s case ;)) tim is the one who wants it, and has all the qualities to become the next best batman. i feel like it would be cool to see that future lineup of tim as batman taking up the mantle after dick retires and seeing how the bat family has changed up until then. And then when tim retires or even god forbid dies wearing the cowl we see batman die for a time before terry comes and picks up the role after stumbling upon the wayne mansion many years since the death of batman, and now we get to see his rebirth. Holy shit i can yap, TLDR: Dick is the embodiment of what the robin mantle is meant for, and tim is the best robin for bruce. Dick is the best candidate for batman and will pick up the cowl one day when bruce retires or dies before tim is ready, and we will have dick with HIS best robin damian.
Personally, Dick as Batman with Damian as Robin are my favorite combo. Especially when you add Steph either as Spoiler or Batgirl. ❤
That being said; Dick will forever be my favorite baby and most awesome Bat ever, but I agree that Tim just makes it shine. Tim as Robin puts his foot down against Batman as an equal and when Batman tries to push, he pushes right back. While all the Robins have argued with Batman, Tim makes it work, because he argues not for independence (though sometimes he does), but he argues for them being a team and sticking together. And that's what makes their relationship flourish.
Great video! Tim deserves more love
Dick is my favorite and most fleshed out character.
Jason is the failure of all the Robins.
Tim is the smartest and truly a partner of Batman and is definitely the best mantle of Robin.
Damien is the youngest of the Robins and he’s too immature to be the best.
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Tim is the best Robin for Bruce, he’s the only one who’s seen as an equal when working as Robin. You see this at the end of crisis and right before new 52 where it was Bruce + Tim and dick + Damian. Not only that he established that status quo for Batman and Robin
Damian is the essential robin Now
The minute you said Tim drake was the best robin, I cheered HAHA. He is my absolute fav of the four and of the robins in general ( if we're including batfam tho Cassandra Cain is right up there ;] ), He deserves the praise, especially with him being so shafted nowadays :' ) I do love DG for being the original and the Fun Robin if you will, and bounced off of Batman's personality very well, but Tim's deductive skills and introduction will always be my favorite of any robins and well fits the mantle~ Wonderful video btw !!!! 🤍
Tim was the best DRAKE. Quack. Quack. 😂
Tim Drake is the only Robin that was allowed to do his own investigations without notifying Batman. Batman looks at Tim Drake as an equal.
My favorite version of Robin is Earth 6 Robin, its the only independent version of Robin that's not Batman adjacent which makes the character all the more real, also he's a badass as well
Wasn’t there some kind of weird retcon about Bruce taking in a girl as the “first” Robin?
Jason Todd has done more as red hood.. as Robin it’s hard to tell how far he would have gone, but before he died his detective skills were supposed to be up there. But yea.. Tim Drake.
I see your points on Damian, but hes an interesting mix to the bat family. Remember he was raised by ras al ghul and talia. He was never gonna be normal.
Hands down tim is the best robin. but dick is the best character out of all of them.
My favorite robins are Tim drake robin and Damian Wayne robin mostly because both characters are really awesome and badass in my opinion, also as for Damian Wayne robin it’s him teaming up with my boy Jonathan Samuel Kent superboy as his little 10 year old self and teaming up with the super sons which is really awesome.
Tbh, I fw Damian as Robin, mostly bcs of his depiction in latest animated series. I like his development in movies.
Before I watch this video, I would’ve said Dick Grayson but wow, did you make a lot of good points about Tim Drake and now I can’t decide😂
I agree with your top two assessment, your bottom two, I don’t agree, but you both seem to have a better grasp of the character than I do. So I’ll just enjoy your video.
Loved the video guys! Y’all just earned a new subscriber! But my favorite Robin is always going be Dick Grayson always always always! But if I had to pick who is the best Robin it’s obviously Tim Drake like cmon Tim always has Bruce’s back especially before he was even Robin in the first place! Awesome video guys hope to see more from you guys!
DAMIAN WAYNE is a Shakespearean tragic hero. Reminiscent of two legendary epic characters :
1. MORDRED Prince of Camelot torn between his father noble King Arthur ( Batman ) and his mother evil sorceress Morgana La Fey ( Talia ).
2. OCTAVIAN the heir of the great Julius Caesar ( Ra's Al Ghul ) and the son of his grand niece
the cunning Atia Of The Julii ( Talia ).
For DAMIAN, the legacy of THE DEMON HEAD
is stronger than the legacy of THE BAT. He will inherit The 3 LEAGUES : SHADOWS, LAZARUS AND ASSASSINS. Tim Drake can remain as Robin. Terry McGinnis will be Batman Beyond.
Except Batman accepts Damian and they won't get into a fight.
Also in this case Talia does let Damian make his own choice and she does make up with Batman.
@@huntertezz That is also true.
Depending on what version.
Tim was my Robin growing up so he’s always been my favorite.
In my head-canon, Tim _doesn't_ become the next Batman; no one hero is up to that task. _But:_ the team of Tim Drake, Stephanie Brown, and Cassandra Cain _can_ do it. The three of them have a sort of body, mind, and soul thing going on: Cassandra brings the brawn (she's fluent in body language the way others are fluent in English; and Bruce has said that she's the world's best fighter, better even than him); Tim brings the brains (Ra's al Ghul has called Tim “Detective”, a title that he previously reserved solely for Bruce; and when Tim finally gives up the Robin identity, I would love to see him become a sleuth-like character in the mold of the Question, calling himself simply “the Detective”); and Stephanie brings the heart (her contributions have always been understated; but she's always been the most grounded of the three, even more so than Tim; she's the most level-headed of the three - again, with Tim coming in a close second; _and_ she's the most determined: she spent _years_ trying to gain the respect of the Bat-family, with even _Tim_ wanting her to quit, but she stayed the course and ultimately earned a seat at the table through sheer tenacity. She's the distillation of the principle behind Tim's observation that Batman needs Robin.
The time glaze is insane
Imo, Tim should always be Robin. He's the perfect fit for the role, the only one who's ever been a true partner to Batman, rather than a sidekick, and I think he should get to keep the role long term. He doesn't need to graduate from being Robin like Dick and Jason did because he brought Robin up to the same level as Batman.
Personally, my favourite heir to the cowl is Cassandra Cain but that's a topic for another day.
My personal favorite Robin is Jason. But in my opinion, you can’t really tell who the best Robin is. They all have their own advantages and disadvantages.
Sheldon has Aspergers and Damian is a bart because he has too much of his grandfather in him.
Looking at the timelines (in the real world) it's tough to compete with Dick. Think about it:
Dick was Robin for ~44 years
Jason was Robin for ~4 years
Tim was Robin for ~20 years prior to being back burnered, but has since been through a complicated series of identities (the less said about "Drake," the better...)
Damian has been Robin for ~15 years, although ive lost track of how many times he has already either given up or been stripped of the mantle.
Plus, if adapted media goes chronologically, we get MORE Dick as Robin, ie in Batman: The Animated Series in the 90s, the Joel Schumacher films, Teen Titans, Teen Titans Go!, Young Justice, Titans, etc etc etc. If you add up the time Jason, Tim, and Damian were each Robin, Dick still has years on them. Thats tough to compete with!
This is a fantastic thumbnail
Best character is Dick, best Robin is Tim, favourite is Damian. It really was genius how Grant Morrison introduced him in a way that guaranteed people hate him, but by the time he died, it was heartbreaking that he died.
Jason was dogshit though.
This was a great love letter to Robins. Unless you’re a Damian fan lol
Jason is my fav. The red book story and ultimately batman betraying Jason is heartbreaking and solidifies both their futures
I get the damian hate, but for me Jason is the worst because if he was never resurrected as red hood then we wouldn’t even talk about him
My personal order.
Best Robin: Tim Drake
Best Sidekick/partner: Dick Grayson
Best after being Robin: Jason Todd
Most likely to permanently claim the title of Batman: Damien Wayne.
I also think it makes sense for Damien to be the worst Robin but still most likely to be the next Batman because Bruce was never a Robin in most iterations. So I think Damien not doing well work with let alone under someone is spot on with him being like his dad and why he’ll be the next Batman
Grayson is my favorite Robin. Jason Todd is my favorite member of the Bat Family. Specifically, because I hate the no kill rule and in a perfect world Red Hood is DC's version of The Punisher.
My favorite robin is Grayson. But my favorite “after robin” is Red Hood
Damien has the best character development of all of them