That is why I purchased the Pioneer 1000-5. I can use it for work, and use it for tearing up the trails. I love having turf mode for using it in the yard. I also can get my entire family in it without out it being as long as a bus, and they have not complained about being uncomfortable other than the rear seat belt buckles. I swear the turning radius is tighter than my ATV. Still getting used to the DCT since I am used to belt drive.
My 2 cents worth as an owner of BOTH a Polaris XP 1000 (2014) and Pioneer 1000-5 (2016) There is no question that the Polaris has more getup in it! It's a beast of a machine when playing. With that said, I think the Honda having a TRUE locker 4WD system AND the direct drive makes it my preferred choice when I want to go climbing and crawling over rough stuff. I've got 30's on my Polaris and 29's on the Honda. Do I occasionally scrape, sure. That is what I have these machines for! I can carry MUCH more equipment in the Honda than the Polaris provided I don't have any rear passengers. I put a large Contico container in the back and still have lots of room for other items! Could it have more HP? Perhaps, but I haven't been in a situation where I lacked power. My biggest complaint is the heat from the engine. I got a letter from Honda saying that they are offering a solution to that at no charge too! I have noticed some BS comments here as well. The Honda does NOT have a torque converter. It uses the same style transmission that Honda has used in racing for a number of years, the DCT. This is where 1, 3, 5 share 1 clutch and 2, 4, 6 share the other. The paddle shifters on the steering column make it a lot more sporty too. I can put mine in 4WD locked, 4 Low, and crawl down an extremely steep hill. This is a BIG problem with my Polaris. I have to try to keep RPMs up in order to keep the CVT engaged to slow my descent. As I said, I prefer my Honda for adventuring, and steep terrain and the Polaris for getting into the throttle and raising hell.
best comment ive read. your're absolutely correct on the dct. 1,3,5 works off the front clutch pack while 2,4,6 works off a totally separate rear clutch. only the pioneer 700 has a torque converter since its basically a 680 Rincon powerplant. the 1000 pcm also adapts and learns your driving style and in turn it shifts accordingly. if you stay up in the upper rpm range a lot the pcm will hold the 1000 in gear longer before it shifts or if you drive slow and on flat ground a lot itll shift smooth and in low rpm range. ive been a Honda tech for 17 years and every brand has their downfalls. the 1000 simply creates a lot of heat which is uncomfortable. the cabin comfort kit did help it but I think their response to the problem could've been better. a lot of the utvs create a lot of heat and that's simply due to the fact that in order to meet epa regs the companies are leaning units out. which of course is gonna create more heat. I own a 1000 5 and for the tight wooded trails I ride in the appalachian mountains something like a ranger crew or Viking 6 would be a nightmare to navigate.
valuable comment - thanks mate, im currenlty looking as i live on some steep terrain and want to use it for farm duties also inlcuding land scape raking steep hills etc. seems shaft drive def the go for up and down hills and no short pause between pedal and movement - seems honda likley way to go
You ought to be ashamed yourself there's a lot of stuff that's more reliable than Honda where you live in the United States nothing against Honda but get your head out of your ass God-bless everyone
As a Pioneer owner, all I can say is that these vehicles are pretty bulletproof. I don't worry about breaking an axle or shredding a belt. That being said, they are noisy as hell with squeaks everywhere and they lack the comfort of other models out there.
but also it’s a great price, it’s like 10k or less. if you wanted somthing amazing you could spend a little more, but the pioneer is worth it, even if it’s a little loud
I got myself a 2018 p1000-3. Has a front difflock and auto 6 speed trans...take it to the ozarks regularly and beat the hell out of it on those steep rocky switchbacks ...never fails
Maurice Cooper there is no torque converter on the pioneer 500 or the pioneer 1000 shown in this video the only one that has a torque converter is the pioneer 700.
Joshua Childers I have a Honda Pioneer 700 and you wouldn't believe the abuse I put that through Just for fun I hooked up my trailer to it and towed my pick up truck around on it in the yard it's gonna take a lot to break it but I agree it would cost more to fix
Maurice Cooper I'm not doubting it can't take abuse but even the mechanics at the Polaris and Honda dealers are riding Kawasaki Teryxs. They said they'd be more worried about the hondas DCT tranny.
I have '13 Jeep Grand Cherokee TrailHawk and an Textron (Arctic Cat) Wildcat Sport (60' wide) and a Polaris RZR 570 (50' wide). Naturally I love all things that go off road. Great review! I grew up on a Honda ATC 110 (3-wheeler) and TRX 125 (4-wheeler) and will always have a special place in my heart for all things Honda.
Craig Simons oh I know what you mean when i was younger my cousins had a Honda atc 110 I believe that had a Honda atc 185 as well . 3 wheelers are a different animal for sure not long after that mom got us a Kawasaki 220 4 wheeler that's were it all started now I own a Kawasaki KFX 400 and a Honda Pioneer 700-4 love it not particularly fast but man it will go anywhere only drawback compared to regular atvs is it's width (this 1000 shown here is even wider) barely fits on my 5x10 trailer and is a little tight on small trails.
My buddy has the pioneer 700 I loved it so much I got a Yamaha 07 rhino 660 four passenger I paid 5k so I think we both got great bang for the buck the pioneer is bigger and has a tad more power but towing the rhino is much easier due to the 1047 pound weight.
Yeesh! I just bought a beater Jeep Grand Cherokee that runs great, has no rust, and the AC blows cold for less than $1000. I'd do that 15 times, buy a trailer, and still have enough money for a 14 day Caribbean cruise for 2.
You would be surprised where those damn Jeep Grand Cherokees will go with just regular all terrain tires. My 96 ZJ went wherever I pointed it, placed I should never have gone but it never left me stranded and never got stuck. Plus it took care of the moderate towing duties and 220k miles later when I sold it, its still on the road and the current owner has racked up another 300k on the original drive train...that 4.0L Straight 6 engine was bulletproof...no wonder they quickly dumped that engine in favor of the garbage V6's and that odd 4.7L V8...I'd love to get my hands on a JGC with the 5.9L (360) V8, not many were made, most either had the 4.0L Straight 6, or the 5.2L (318) V8.
Have a quad and trailer. My wife bought an older jeep tj 5 years ago. Best bday gift ever. 4.0, 3" suspensipn lift 33" mud terrains.rear lunchbox locker, warn winch (old 9500, still works great) $10k, over 5 years ago. Best recovery vehicle ever. Now if 1 of us breaks, Back to camp and bring out the jeep to tow whoever back. This vehicle has turned trail nightmares into good times for all. Its funny too cause we all fight over who's going back to get the jeep. Im starting to think my crew purposely breaks, or not afraid to try something new and end up broken.
Its a tuff call 21,000. I'm thinking hard about it and my decision is gonna be for the kids and grandkids..Alot of money for a toy.... Way out of their league right now. What made my final decision was I have 3 Honda 4 wheelers Foremans a 91 and a 93. 1... 86 I should retire because the body has seen better days but still runs like a top. Its like an old girlfriend still a special place in my heart for her....lol..... We have taken care of them and they are still in great shape and bullet proof. So 21,000 doesn't seem that bad if we get 30 years out of it and my grandchildren are still running it when I'm dead and gone.
SXS are expensive to begin with but this pioneer seems like you get even less bang for your buck than most other ones. I picked up a brand new 2018 Teryx 4 LE less than a month ago for 13.5k. And other than making a bit more power this Pioneer doesn’t do anything better. The T4 is more comfortable, especially for rear seat occupants and has real lockers front and rear instead of a rear locker and what is essentially traction control for the front. I’ve also not over heated the thing so far with 3 passengers with cargo while going up steep grades in mid to high 80 degree ambient temps.
I was looking at honda and kawasaki mule, if you carry 4 people you lose your work bed, my buddy has a Honda pioneer 1000-5 he even bought and extended warranty, he's had clutch problems, wiring problems, they had to replace the whole wiring harness, guess what, honda wouldn't cover it, said it was his fault, I can maybe see his fault on the clutch, maybe not, but the wiring harness, I say b.s. and their warranty ain't worth crap, to bad, I really liked the Honda to, if honda would of covered it, they would of sold another one, but because they didn't, I bought a kawasaki mule ranch pro fxt, I love it, seats 6 and I still have a bed for working.
Overpriced yeah but if I build a jeep or a Suzuki samurai the headaches I’m going to have I’m just not in the mood for.. I’m 50 house paid off leeches gone I’m gonna go finance a talon R
Yeah, what they don't tell you is it may not stop that 2,000lbs once you get it moving. That 2,000lb trailer is going to push that little UTV all over the place.
Love Honda but for $21,000.00 you can get a Kubota with cool air and heated interior. I worked for Honda 16 years and own honda cars, lawnmowers, 4-wheelers but this price is not what i call a bargain considering the competition at this time.
I'd buy a used pickup for $5,000 or less to beat on. I could always put a cheap ATV on the back to go where the truck couldn't and still have over $10,000 in the bank.
anyone who's looking into buying this machine with accessories beware!!!!!!!!! I'm on my second utv, first i bought the 700-4 with the workman accessory kit and it was ok but the utv itself was very slow and loud and the heater didnt put out much heat and it would always steam up in the rain. Once the 1000-5 came out i traded my 700 in for a 1000 hopping all the issues would be rectified but they were worse. all the doors had gaps, the heater was worse, way to much heat in cab from engine in summer so cant take dog with me. steams up worse . all back doors dont work and dont stay lined up with the role cage and were useless plus the back zipper for the main back door dont work when is dusty or dirty which will happen after a few runs, the zipper just splits apart when in use.the front doors are way to heavy and the straps that hold the door keep busting and the passenger door handle is falling off. there isnt enough protection under the machine even if you purchase the metal skid plate they offer. plus more to list but i wont bother........all of these issues happened within a 1000kms. when i called into honda canada with hope that they would rectify the issues all i got from them was "sir we passed your suggestions into the right department and you can expect to see these problems rectified on our new bikes" so basically after spending around 70k they are going to leave you in the black with your bike issues but we will make their new bikes better lol thanks honda ! if anyone is considering this bike please look at the polariz 1000xp they have way more and way better accessories, looks like ill be selling the 1000-5 in the spring
+Taco Pro These are street legal in several states. Wyoming, Utah, Arizona, and more. However, they require blinkers, horn, license plate holder with a light and a couple more item to make them legal.
Easily are, but depends on your state/local laws. I'm in Utah and the laws her are awesome for UTV's. Bought a Polaris General 4 last month, dropped $400 on a street legal kit, another $100 on plates/tags and voila...my second car. LOVE IT.
The pioneer 500, Yamaha rhino, rzr 570/900 or Polaris ace would be a better review to me something most americans could relate to affording & not outright the option of building your own. For 21k you could draw one and literally have a shop put you one together with turbo I4 production car motor with easily 200hp
No ATV/UTV is really that affordable. When prices are far exceeding the prices of a nice 4WD truck or SUV there's a problem. I'd buy a nice used truck before I'd buy an ATV or UTV that doesn't keep you out of the elements...you want a cab that actually works and fits properly you'll need to spend another $5k+ on one of those toys. I'll stick to a truck or SUV that comes from the factory with a cab, heater, air conditioning, wipers, etc. ATV's were originally invented for farming/ranching, not toys, the market turned them into toys and the prices have skyrocketed as a result. For the cost of an ATV or UTV you can get a damn nice diesel 4WD truck and have money left over.
I'd like to know y when you hit 44 miles per hour it shuts down and back on and back out,I can't stand that part of it because when I get it stuck if it wouldn't shut down it would throw the mud out of the grips and bite on new ground, but it boggs it down in the mudd we have called black jack, it's rough terrain, all im looking to do is make it quit shutting down
I like the back seat thing very good . Dont like the price ,wow im old or things are just expensive. I was going to get a brand new wrangler back in 1989 for 13k got a new gmc pickup instead for 12700. I guess im just getting old. Looked at the one at tractor supply 8k non of the fancy options but think it would still be fun And useful. Problem still dont want to spend 8k on a toy.
I'm a life long die hard Honda Atv guy. Still am, but after test driving the Pioneer, I'd choose the Polaris. The Honda back seats are awful, and the machine just isn't smooth and refined of a driving experience. I hope Honda makes a real crew and in a few years be ready to eclipse the Polaris crew.
Marty Wilkinson I'm curious which Polaris you found to be smooth and refined. The Pioneer DCT can definately be jerky, but they do break in and smooth out a bit. Polaris' belt drive will worsen over time. Drive one with a hundred or more hours and see. The Kawasaki Mule Pro series is well worth a look if you don't have to have 70-80 hp. The Pro FXT is a nice tidy size with a comfy back seat and you still have some cargo room, unlike the Pioneer when carrying back seat passengers.
The Polaris is a 2017 Crew 1000. Both were brand new at the dealer when we test drove them. My father in law bought the Polaris and he/We have been very happy with it. In honesty, the short comings I felt the Honda had, I could live with, but the biggest turn off was the rear seat comfort. We typically have it fully loaded, so the rear bench of the Polaris fit our application better. I'm not saying the Honda is a bad machine at all, but the Polaris shined in our test drives. I'd pick the Honda over the 3 seater Ranger possibly. And I understand Honda made the back seat for versatility and to cut down the overall length, but to me/us, the sacrifice of back seat comfort and space wasn't going to work for us. I'm looking forward to what the future holds in this market.
Every single person I know that owns a Polaris product over the years have had major problems. Every single person I know thats owned Hondas over the years never had major problems. I still go over my friend's farm and ride his two Honda 250 4 tracks that still start like the day his dad bought them when we were in first grade. I'm in my mid 40s now I can go over to my other buddies place who bought the First Polaris 500 sportsman, it's great when it runs,he had motor, cams, put exterior water pump,etc. Costing $$$ . Honda dirt bikes from the 70s was better and more reliable than a Polaris 4 wheeler from 90s. My father in law just retired He asked me what should he buy for a side by side. I told him make sure its a Honda and when my kids grow up and one day have kids and then in the late future become Grandpas themselves, they can give their grand kids rides on it. He bought a Honda 700 Pioneer with a dump box for around the farm and I now he even been hitting the state trailers. POLARIS = money over time HONDA = gas and go for year to come. I will be picking up the Honda 1000cc crew cab shorty.But thats becouse I plan on keeping it for years.
Bummer. I remember the Polaris Ranger being offered with diesel engine. For a vehicle like this, I would think that a diesel engine would be a good thing.
Listen too what he says Pioneer owners, this is not a sport machine. Too heavy and too wide. I have seen Pioneer's get jammed in one gear going down mountains, Hondas Talon comes with a wrence so you can manually shift them when stuck in gear. Keeping my belt machines after 30,000 mi on 6 belted machines no smoked belts all I ride is mountains, 3500 mi last year. New belts on at 4000 mi maintenance. If you don't understand belts get a pioneer and a winch your gon a need it.
I have drove them back to back against a Polaris Ranger 1000 I will take the Polaris all day smoother better ride and all around nicer rig than the Honda
Justinj360 this model has what honda calls a itella 4 wheel drive which applies the brakes when a front tire spins cause the side with more traction to spin the rear is locked dif on standard not the le edition the front dif locks along with rear hope this helps yeah
It's not supposed to be powerful. Y'all need to calm down you're power hungry. This machine is built to last, and work for as long and as hard as you do. And v twins back then didn't make that much power.
You can get a damn good equipped used Jeep for a hell of a lot less. Many will sell their Wranglers when they encounter the notorious death wobble rather than fixing them because it scares the shit out of them when it happens. I'd buy a Jeep Wrangler before I'd buy a damn UTV. Pay all that damn money and you still cannot drive them on the highway...yet they let people on the freeway with those damn "Smart Cars".
That is why I purchased the Pioneer 1000-5. I can use it for work, and use it for tearing up the trails. I love having turf mode for using it in the yard. I also can get my entire family in it without out it being as long as a bus, and they have not complained about being uncomfortable other than the rear seat belt buckles. I swear the turning radius is tighter than my ATV. Still getting used to the DCT since I am used to belt drive.
I want to get the street legal kit, ride it around town do some errands with my dog.
My 2 cents worth as an owner of BOTH a Polaris XP 1000 (2014) and Pioneer 1000-5 (2016)
There is no question that the Polaris has more getup in it! It's a beast of a machine when playing. With that said, I think the Honda having a TRUE locker 4WD system AND the direct drive makes it my preferred choice when I want to go climbing and crawling over rough stuff. I've got 30's on my Polaris and 29's on the Honda. Do I occasionally scrape, sure. That is what I have these machines for! I can carry MUCH more equipment in the Honda than the Polaris provided I don't have any rear passengers. I put a large Contico container in the back and still have lots of room for other items! Could it have more HP? Perhaps, but I haven't been in a situation where I lacked power.
My biggest complaint is the heat from the engine. I got a letter from Honda saying that they are offering a solution to that at no charge too!
I have noticed some BS comments here as well. The Honda does NOT have a torque converter. It uses the same style transmission that Honda has used in racing for a number of years, the DCT. This is where 1, 3, 5 share 1 clutch and 2, 4, 6 share the other. The paddle shifters on the steering column make it a lot more sporty too. I can put mine in 4WD locked, 4 Low, and crawl down an extremely steep hill. This is a BIG problem with my Polaris. I have to try to keep RPMs up in order to keep the CVT engaged to slow my descent.
As I said, I prefer my Honda for adventuring, and steep terrain and the Polaris for getting into the throttle and raising hell.
Mike Dabrowski’^
best comment ive read. your're absolutely correct on the dct. 1,3,5 works off the front clutch pack while 2,4,6 works off a totally separate rear clutch. only the pioneer 700 has a torque converter since its basically a 680 Rincon powerplant. the 1000 pcm also adapts and learns your driving style and in turn it shifts accordingly. if you stay up in the upper rpm range a lot the pcm will hold the 1000 in gear longer before it shifts or if you drive slow and on flat ground a lot itll shift smooth and in low rpm range. ive been a Honda tech for 17 years and every brand has their downfalls. the 1000 simply creates a lot of heat which is uncomfortable. the cabin comfort kit did help it but I think their response to the problem could've been better. a lot of the utvs create a lot of heat and that's simply due to the fact that in order to meet epa regs the companies are leaning units out. which of course is gonna create more heat. I own a 1000 5 and for the tight wooded trails I ride in the appalachian mountains something like a ranger crew or Viking 6 would be a nightmare to navigate.
Which brand do you have to wrench on the most?
Bob Van Arkel
I think it’s which brand do you pay someone to repair, (Polaris) should have stuck with sleds only
valuable comment - thanks mate, im currenlty looking as i live on some steep terrain and want to use it for farm duties also inlcuding land scape raking steep hills etc. seems shaft drive def the go for up and down hills and no short pause between pedal and movement - seems honda likley way to go
Honda definitely built the most reliable equipment on Earth
You ought to be ashamed yourself there's a lot of stuff that's more reliable than Honda where you live in the United States nothing against Honda but get your head out of your ass God-bless everyone
As a Pioneer owner, all I can say is that these vehicles are pretty bulletproof. I don't worry about breaking an axle or shredding a belt. That being said, they are noisy as hell with squeaks everywhere and they lack the comfort of other models out there.
What year is your Honda I have the 2019 talon it makes no noise in the cab no door noise
but also it’s a great price, it’s like 10k or less. if you wanted somthing amazing you could spend a little more, but the pioneer is worth it, even if it’s a little loud
Y'all are really expanding your content, aren't you? Would love to see more content involving ATV's/UTV's.
I got myself a 2018 p1000-3. Has a front difflock and auto 6 speed trans...take it to the ozarks regularly and beat the hell out of it on those steep rocky switchbacks ...never fails
The best thing about the hondas side by sides is the fact that they don't have Belt style transmission they actually have a Torque converter
Maurice Cooper there is no torque converter on the pioneer 500 or the pioneer 1000 shown in this video the only one that has a torque converter is the pioneer 700.
Maurice Cooper that's actually the worst thing. If it fails, you're screwed. It'll cost a lot also.
Joshua Childers I have a Honda Pioneer 700 and you wouldn't believe the abuse I put that through Just for fun I hooked up my trailer to it and towed my pick up truck around on it in the yard it's gonna take a lot to break it but I agree it would cost more to fix
Maurice Cooper I'm not doubting it can't take abuse but even the mechanics at the Polaris and Honda dealers are riding Kawasaki Teryxs. They said they'd be more worried about the hondas DCT tranny.
Maurice Cooper and reliability
My buddy in New Hampshire has one of these. My dad has a 2016 Can Am Maverick Turbo and it goes! Keep making ATV and UTV videos
I have '13 Jeep Grand Cherokee TrailHawk and an Textron (Arctic Cat) Wildcat Sport (60' wide) and a Polaris RZR 570 (50' wide). Naturally I love all things that go off road. Great review! I grew up on a Honda ATC 110 (3-wheeler) and TRX 125 (4-wheeler) and will always have a special place in my heart for all things Honda.
Craig Simons oh I know what you mean when i was younger my cousins had a Honda atc 110 I believe that had a Honda atc 185 as well . 3 wheelers are a different animal for sure not long after that mom got us a Kawasaki 220 4 wheeler that's were it all started now I own a Kawasaki KFX 400 and a Honda Pioneer 700-4 love it not particularly fast but man it will go anywhere only drawback compared to regular atvs is it's width (this 1000 shown here is even wider) barely fits on my 5x10 trailer and is a little tight on small trails.
My buddy has the pioneer 700 I loved it so much I got a Yamaha 07 rhino 660 four passenger I paid 5k so I think we both got great bang for the buck the pioneer is bigger and has a tad more power but towing the rhino is much easier due to the 1047 pound weight.
Yeesh! I just bought a beater Jeep Grand Cherokee that runs great, has no rust, and the AC blows cold for less than $1000. I'd do that 15 times, buy a trailer, and still have enough money for a 14 day Caribbean cruise for 2.
You would be surprised where those damn Jeep Grand Cherokees will go with just regular all terrain tires. My 96 ZJ went wherever I pointed it, placed I should never have gone but it never left me stranded and never got stuck. Plus it took care of the moderate towing duties and 220k miles later when I sold it, its still on the road and the current owner has racked up another 300k on the original drive train...that 4.0L Straight 6 engine was bulletproof...no wonder they quickly dumped that engine in favor of the garbage V6's and that odd 4.7L V8...I'd love to get my hands on a JGC with the 5.9L (360) V8, not many were made, most either had the 4.0L Straight 6, or the 5.2L (318) V8.
That's the beauty of life, it's all about perception.
Have a quad and trailer. My wife bought an older jeep tj 5 years ago. Best bday gift ever. 4.0, 3" suspensipn lift 33" mud terrains.rear lunchbox locker, warn winch (old 9500, still works great) $10k, over 5 years ago. Best recovery vehicle ever. Now if 1 of us breaks, Back to camp and bring out the jeep to tow whoever back. This vehicle has turned trail nightmares into good times for all. Its funny too cause we all fight over who's going back to get the jeep. Im starting to think my crew purposely breaks, or not afraid to try something new and end up broken.
Its a tuff call 21,000. I'm thinking hard about it and my decision is gonna be for the kids and grandkids..Alot of money for a toy.... Way out of their league right now. What made my final decision was I have 3 Honda 4 wheelers Foremans a 91 and a 93. 1... 86 I should retire because the body has seen better days but still runs like a top. Its like an old girlfriend still a special place in my heart for her....lol..... We have taken care of them and they are still in great shape and bullet proof. So 21,000 doesn't seem that bad if we get 30 years out of it and my grandchildren are still running it when I'm dead and gone.
We love our Honda Pioneer 10005 LE!! Great video. 😀
Great machine for the 60yo+ crowd. Gerry and his wife Lynn will love it.
SXS are expensive to begin with but this pioneer seems like you get even less bang for your buck than most other ones. I picked up a brand new 2018 Teryx 4 LE less than a month ago for 13.5k. And other than making a bit more power this Pioneer doesn’t do anything better. The T4 is more comfortable, especially for rear seat occupants and has real lockers front and rear instead of a rear locker and what is essentially traction control for the front. I’ve also not over heated the thing so far with 3 passengers with cargo while going up steep grades in mid to high 80 degree ambient temps.
Nice review. I’m going with the Honda.
I was looking at honda and kawasaki mule, if you carry 4 people you lose your work bed, my buddy has a Honda pioneer 1000-5 he even bought and extended warranty, he's had clutch problems, wiring problems, they had to replace the whole wiring harness, guess what, honda wouldn't cover it, said it was his fault, I can maybe see his fault on the clutch, maybe not, but the wiring harness, I say b.s. and their warranty ain't worth crap, to bad, I really liked the Honda to, if honda would of covered it, they would of sold another one, but because they didn't, I bought a kawasaki mule ranch pro fxt, I love it, seats 6 and I still have a bed for working.
Overpriced yeah but if I build a jeep or a Suzuki samurai the headaches I’m going to have I’m just not in the mood for..
I’m 50 house paid off leeches gone I’m gonna go finance a talon R
Wow it tows 2000 lbs? That is almost as much as the new heavy duty Silverados!
Yeah, what they don't tell you is it may not stop that 2,000lbs once you get it moving. That 2,000lb trailer is going to push that little UTV all over the place.
John Wyskochil .......and 2,000 pounds more than any Ford. C'mon ,laugh a little! 😂😂
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Love Honda but for $21,000.00 you can get a Kubota with cool air and heated interior. I worked for Honda 16 years and own honda cars, lawnmowers, 4-wheelers but this price is not what i call a bargain considering the competition at this time.
I'd buy a used pickup for $5,000 or less to beat on. I could always put a cheap ATV on the back to go where the truck couldn't and still have over $10,000 in the bank.
Aaron S There's a Samari (lifted with a Chevy motor swap) for sale down the street from me for $3k. Something like that would be a great alternative.
I am more of a Yamaha guy that was an awesome video thanks again
$21,000 should be street legal!!!
I think all it needs is turn signals and a few other things and it can be
All you have to do in Missouri is hang a SMV sign on the back and you're legal. Seriously.
I think I’ll just buy a small Subaru for 21,000 and be able to do just about everything, probably climb more then UTV could ever do
Street legal in Montana. Hell even my 2004 rincon is street legal.
I like the Can -Am Defender Max but the Honda is a good machine .
anyone who's looking into buying this machine with accessories beware!!!!!!!!! I'm on my second utv, first i bought the 700-4 with the workman accessory kit and it was ok but the utv itself was very slow and loud and the heater didnt put out much heat and it would always steam up in the rain. Once the 1000-5 came out i traded my 700 in for a 1000 hopping all the issues would be rectified but they were worse. all the doors had gaps, the heater was worse, way to much heat in cab from engine in summer so cant take dog with me. steams up worse . all back doors dont work and dont stay lined up with the role cage and were useless plus the back zipper for the main back door dont work when is dusty or dirty which will happen after a few runs, the zipper just splits apart when in use.the front doors are way to heavy and the straps that hold the door keep busting and the passenger door handle is falling off. there isnt enough protection under the machine even if you purchase the metal skid plate they offer. plus more to list but i wont bother........all of these issues happened within a 1000kms. when i called into honda canada with hope that they would rectify the issues all i got from them was "sir we passed your suggestions into the right department and you can expect to see these problems rectified on our new bikes" so basically after spending around 70k they are going to leave you in the black with your bike issues but we will make their new bikes better lol thanks honda ! if anyone is considering this bike please look at the polariz 1000xp they have way more and way better accessories, looks like ill be selling the 1000-5 in the spring
omg.. for that price I could buy a really big TV and 4000 bags of Cheetos!
And a shit load of weed, right?
Let's GOOO IT'S A HONDA UTV!
My cousin has one and it shifts like a race car. It shifts half the time when you get to the redline.
How is it you can buy a twin quad coming close to producing 100 ponies, but starkly contrasted 80 horses on a UTV is deemed crazy power?
got a 2019 so much fun
I wish they were street legal.
Taco Pro There is a kit available.
+Taco Pro These are street legal in several states. Wyoming, Utah, Arizona, and more. However, they require blinkers, horn, license plate holder with a light and a couple more item to make them legal.
The Fast Lane Truck plus DOT tires and a safety glass windshield with a wiper
The Fast Lane Truck will we see more on the up coming ram I'm a ram guy
Easily are, but depends on your state/local laws. I'm in Utah and the laws her are awesome for UTV's. Bought a Polaris General 4 last month, dropped $400 on a street legal kit, another $100 on plates/tags and voila...my second car. LOVE IT.
Honda offers the Talon which is a sport side by side
The pioneer 500, Yamaha rhino, rzr 570/900 or Polaris ace would be a better review to me something most americans could relate to affording & not outright the option of building your own. For 21k you could draw one and literally have a shop put you one together with turbo I4 production car motor with easily 200hp
No ATV/UTV is really that affordable. When prices are far exceeding the prices of a nice 4WD truck or SUV there's a problem. I'd buy a nice used truck before I'd buy an ATV or UTV that doesn't keep you out of the elements...you want a cab that actually works and fits properly you'll need to spend another $5k+ on one of those toys. I'll stick to a truck or SUV that comes from the factory with a cab, heater, air conditioning, wipers, etc.
ATV's were originally invented for farming/ranching, not toys, the market turned them into toys and the prices have skyrocketed as a result. For the cost of an ATV or UTV you can get a damn nice diesel 4WD truck and have money left over.
This vehicle is sick!!!
I wish the pioneer came in a diesel option. Better mpg, better slow rock crawling, better towing
You guys should compare a small size truck to an utv. I think a small size Toyota would be a good alternative to a side-by-side.
And a hell of a lot cheaper.
I'd like to know y when you hit 44 miles per hour it shuts down and back on and back out,I can't stand that part of it because when I get it stuck if it wouldn't shut down it would throw the mud out of the grips and bite on new ground, but it boggs it down in the mudd we have called black jack, it's rough terrain, all im looking to do is make it quit shutting down
And people balk at paying 60k for a truck?
I wonder if i can take Honda pioneer “Honda” emblem and put it on Rancher or Foraman. That chrome logo is pretty
How well would it plow and would it handle tracks as well?
I'd like to see a side by side review of this and the Kawasaki Teryx4. Good shootout between two good machines.
Are there any more sporty side by sides that can handle 1000lbs payload and come with 2 inch receiver for towing?
Those headrests are very uncomfortable though but who cares my cousins has huge speakers on it. Fun as hell.
what is honda's aversion to horsepower? they could stomp polaris and can am if they tried
Paddle shifters lol honda cant resist making them
thanks comrade for review
You guys should try and test a Polaris or can am next, that would be cool.
Afish040 can am suck
honda needs to step there game up I don't know 1 person who would buy 1 of these over a rzr or maverick
How bout storage?? How bout accessories?? How bout the heat problems?? How bout the transmission problems??
TFL
Will there be more videos on other UTV and/or ATV
+Manuel Gonzalez Yes, we would like to do more!
The Fast Lane Truck
Thats great. Great videos, awesome info.
The Fast Lane Truck speaking of utvs could you guys do the Polaris Ranger 1000 vs this Honda
The Fast Lane Truck I'd like to see the military Polaris DAGOR or the General Dynamics Flyer if you're given the chance.
How come you didn't use this in your Jeep vs Truck vs SxS challenge?
I like the back seat thing very good . Dont like the price ,wow im old or things are just expensive. I was going to get a brand new wrangler back in 1989 for 13k got a new gmc pickup instead for 12700. I guess im just getting old. Looked at the one at tractor supply 8k non of the fancy options but think it would still be fun And useful. Problem still dont want to spend 8k on a toy.
680ecks you can get a 1000-5 for around 13k if you don't need all the bells and whistles. That's just more to go wrong...lol.
правда? Андрей Смирнов? точно и акцент русский... красавчик
about Honda now... is it road legal?
I would love to see you guys review the intimidator side by side.
He should say you need to ride the Kawasaki Teryx before you buy a Honda
Which one is more fun this or Ford Raptor?
does it have heat for winter
I'm a life long die hard Honda Atv guy. Still am, but after test driving the Pioneer, I'd choose the Polaris. The Honda back seats are awful, and the machine just isn't smooth and refined of a driving experience. I hope Honda makes a real crew and in a few years be ready to eclipse the Polaris crew.
Marty Wilkinson I'm curious which Polaris you found to be smooth and refined. The Pioneer DCT can definately be jerky, but they do break in and smooth out a bit. Polaris' belt drive will worsen over time. Drive one with a hundred or more hours and see. The Kawasaki Mule Pro series is well worth a look if you don't have to have 70-80 hp. The Pro FXT is a nice tidy size with a comfy back seat and you still have some cargo room, unlike the Pioneer when carrying back seat passengers.
The Polaris is a 2017 Crew 1000. Both were brand new at the dealer when we test drove them. My father in law bought the Polaris and he/We have been very happy with it. In honesty, the short comings I felt the Honda had, I could live with, but the biggest turn off was the rear seat comfort. We typically have it fully loaded, so the rear bench of the Polaris fit our application better. I'm not saying the Honda is a bad machine at all, but the Polaris shined in our test drives. I'd pick the Honda over the 3 seater Ranger possibly. And I understand Honda made the back seat for versatility and to cut down the overall length, but to me/us, the sacrifice of back seat comfort and space wasn't going to work for us. I'm looking forward to what the future holds in this market.
Every single person I know that owns a Polaris product over the years have had major problems.
Every single person I know thats owned Hondas over the years never had major problems.
I still go over my friend's farm and ride his two Honda 250 4 tracks that still start like the day his dad bought them when we were in first grade. I'm in my mid 40s now
I can go over to my other buddies place who bought the First Polaris 500 sportsman, it's great when it runs,he had motor, cams, put exterior water pump,etc. Costing $$$ .
Honda dirt bikes from the 70s was better and more reliable than a Polaris 4 wheeler from 90s.
My father in law just retired He asked me what should he buy for a side by side. I told him make sure its a Honda and when my kids grow up and one day have kids and then in the late future become Grandpas themselves, they can give their grand kids rides on it.
He bought a Honda 700 Pioneer with a dump box for around the farm and I now he even been hitting the state trailers.
POLARIS = money over time
HONDA = gas and go for year to come.
I will be picking up the Honda 1000cc crew cab shorty.But thats becouse I plan on keeping it for years.
Yall should review a 2016 argo 750 8x8 with tracks
+John Pierce Heck yea!
Sweet looking vehicle. Can you get it with a diesel engine?
+Jason Carpp no
Bummer. I remember the Polaris Ranger being offered with diesel engine. For a vehicle like this, I would think that a diesel engine would be a good thing.
Kawasaki offers their Pro series Mule with a diesel. I recommend it over the Polaris diesel.
Is this honda product can also drive on highway?
Four years later, and I'm sure you're still an idiot
Looks like a big drivable roll cage
Buy the deluxe model for 15000 and poot 15000 in to it wow just wow is all u will have to say!
Listen too what he says Pioneer owners, this is not a sport machine.
Too heavy and too wide.
I have seen Pioneer's get jammed in one gear going down mountains, Hondas Talon comes with a wrence
so you can manually shift them when stuck in gear.
Keeping my belt machines after 30,000 mi on 6 belted machines no smoked belts all I ride is mountains, 3500 mi last year.
New belts on at 4000 mi maintenance.
If you don't understand belts get a pioneer and a winch your gon a need it.
I have drove them back to back against a Polaris Ranger 1000 I will take the Polaris all day smoother better ride and all around nicer rig than the Honda
21K for a UTV?!!! That is outrageous! I can buy a Premium Subaru Crosstrek for 22K and actually be able to drive it somewhere.
So is it actually 4x4 like they claim or is it 3x4 like all the other Hondas I've seen?
Justinj360 this model has what honda calls a itella 4 wheel drive which applies the brakes when a front tire spins cause the side with more traction to spin the rear is locked dif on standard not the le edition the front dif locks along with rear hope this helps yeah
Crap ! 21thousand Dollars ? That is price of a decent small car.
@Chicken Love or base price for medium sized car, with which one can live for a long useful times.
wow! not only the price, but i thought this was TFL TRUCK! not tfl overpriced 4 wheeler
Y'all should do vids on atvs
polaris general best of the best
$21,000 buys a really nice used Jeep Wrangler.
OFFRD 7k buys a really nice used wrangler...lol
OFFRD with air conditioning and heat!!
...and street legal...
Yes from 1990 maybe
Exactly...or a damn nice truck.
Where is this made? Japan or China, or USA?
a 1 litre v twin and 70hp? 1970 called they want their motor back!
Joe Lalon nn
They should put 2 450 dirt bike engines together and have 100hp
It's not supposed to be powerful. Y'all need to calm down you're power hungry. This machine is built to last, and work for as long and as hard as you do. And v twins back then didn't make that much power.
Joe Lalon it's a parallel twin. Not a v twin.
Joe Lalon Perhaps you should find a way to swap in a Ford 5.0 Coyote. That should be adequate. S/I
Twenty one grand!?!?!?
21k-i can buy a real jeep (older)with about 7 k left over
I know buy a cheaper ford ranger put 3,500 in upgrages still have $$ left.
Very cool toy!
Can am
I'm pretty sure these "UTV's evolved from dirt bikes right?
The Kubota has AC and heater.
Do you have to buy a diesel, or is that available on a gas model?
Thank you
Is that on a gas model, or just a diesel unit?
Thank you
For the MONEY! I'm Buying a JEEP! Or 4RUNNER. They will got the same places at SIDE By SIDE and Not brake as often!
30 колеса влезут в него ?
If this has a sixer it's a beast.
Ill take a bulletproof kubota rtv
should i buy a utv, or a car. i think we both know the answer
Can am all the way
I'll take the maverick
What's the top speed of the Pioneer.
+Dennis Delaney Honda says the top speed is 67 mph.
Dennis Delaney they do 65-67
21000 dollars is to close to just buying a jeep.
You can get a damn good equipped used Jeep for a hell of a lot less. Many will sell their Wranglers when they encounter the notorious death wobble rather than fixing them because it scares the shit out of them when it happens. I'd buy a Jeep Wrangler before I'd buy a damn UTV. Pay all that damn money and you still cannot drive them on the highway...yet they let people on the freeway with those damn "Smart Cars".
70+ HP… not much less than my TJ with the 2.4L 😂😂😂
Bottomed out at 1min mark and they scrubbed it🤣
Let's see the Can Am!
Furious Styles no never can ams are garbage
zachcondon4568 I guess you should do one then?
Furious Styles can am is the good and Yamaha the best
Furious Styles do what Honda is the best then Yamaha can am is the worst for reliability
Darius Hope your right about Yamaha I like Honda and Yamaha have a Honda tho can ams not so much
The ground clearance really sucks!
Lmao. HONDA. Need i say more from day 1. 😜🤘
TEAM RED FTW LOL
This thing is quite expensive for a toy
overheated.... thats no good.... honda has to solve that issue...
Honda does not take care of any issues...they have not made anything reliable in 20 years...even their motorcycles are pure crap now
phil tripe Hondas are the most reliable atvs out there can ams are the worst
phil tripe their four wheelers have always been reliable
Bigger wheels and it's done.
Kubota is what I would like to get. ....a side-by-side.
barth simpson?