“A Lot Of Politics Going On!” Muslim Pupil Challenges UK’s Strictest School In Court Over Prayer Ban
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- Опубликовано: 17 янв 2024
- Reversing a school’s “emergency” provoked decision to ban prayer rituals would again expose it to “an unacceptable risk of threats”, the High Court has been told.
Michaela Community School in Brent, north London, argues allowing such practices risks “undermining inclusion and social cohesion between pupils”, with its ban coming after a “vitriolic campaign of abuse, harassment and threats” against staff.
The high-achieving free school, previously dubbed Britain’s strictest, is facing a legal challenge from a Muslim student who claims its approach to prayer on the premises is discriminatory and “uniquely” affects her faith due to its ritualised nature.
The pupil, who cannot be named for legal reasons, alleges the school’s stance on prayer - one of the five pillars of Islam - was “the kind of discrimination which makes religious minorities feel alienated from society”, a judge was told.
But the school’s lawyers claim its policy was “justified” and “proportionate” after it faced death and bomb threats linked to religious observance on site.
TalkTV’s Vanessa Feltz discusses the story with TalkTV international editor Isabel Oakeshott and the Centre for Education and Youth’s Baz Ramaiah.
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We are a christian country if Muslims don't like it feel free to leave.
Maybe stop destroying peoples home and there won’t be anyone to come. We don’t want your fish and chips, but a better life. You sit down and talk smack on the internet in the comfort of your 12 x 16 living room in the UK knowing fanny adams about what real suffering is. You are pathetic.
Secular is more precise, given that the CoE isnt.
Secular actually
No we don't... This is a predominantly secular society... And the Nons are circa 50% of the population. The only anachronism is that the official religion of the state / establishment is CofE.
@@clungebucket23 I think it was the telegraph/times that ran a fairly thorough poll in 2014 whereby only 48% of those that considered themselves Christian believed in a gOD and 51% were Christians.
We are secular by definition and I’d rather live in a Christian society rather than any other, but the point remains. British people are way more agnostic than we are religious. (Atheist/agnostic? The difference is semantic).
If you HAVE to pray 5 times a day, perhaps you should move to a country where that is the norm.
The Islamification of the UK needs to be stopped FULL STOP END OF DISCUSSION
Slight disagreement. Stopping isn't sufficient. It needs to be reversed.
@@30noirdestroyed* eradicated*
Deportation 🇳🇱🇸🇪🇬🇧⛪🇨🇦
Your forefathers occupied and lived illegally in muslim countries for hundreds of years and robbed their countries and imposed their christian beliefs on the muslims, whereas Muslims came to this country legally at the request of the British government to help Britain after WW2. They helped in the effort to rebuild this country. Also millions of Muslims fought for the British during WW2. They earned their freedoms and yours, so Muslims can say or do anything they want to within the law, just like you.
@@Naomi-de2ps Problem is Muslims don't respect our laws. That's why we get violence when they see cartoons of mohammed which we should be printing daily until muslims get the message that this country will not live under sharia. I'll ignore the mindless comment about my forefathers. Seems like they left the arab lands, though didn't they? Maybe it's your turn to go home.
Uk 🇬🇧 is not a muslim country if you dont like it get out
only for a short while - get your prayer mat ready
schools should provide religeous teaching for all religions those who wants should do so those who do not want can opt out.
Many DO leave. As they should. I left and never been happier.
@@mizlalisaac6369what a tosh schools should be independent off any religin . For this you have home and place of worship.......
@@maymunahabdi4150and we are happy that you left...
If you want to say Muslim prayers in school go and live in Afghanistan
Exactly!!
They cant we all know why
Because they dont like living under sharia
@@Religiondebunker yeah but now they're here they want us to.
Well, maybe you shouldn't have stabilised the region?
@@saraadam3537 I didn't and the majority of the country didn't want it, blame Blair.
Any of those students who racially harassed teachers should be expelled
This is Britain. If they don't like it they can leave. That's both the school and the country.
If you don't like it leave
The teacher is right. The students should be a unity not broken by religion.
She’s wrong they should be segregated .. we can never see eye to eye with Muslims .. ever
Over breed, not allowed to marry out of faith, and once they out number it’s their rules.
Unified with debauchery and perversion instead i suppose, imposing it onto conservative people
Students should go to school to learn. Not form cliques and become nationalist. What gives you right to control students?
She's not a teacher she's head mistress x but agree 💯
If they don’t like the policy of the school they should move to school where there is a prayer room! These people should not be allowed to bully schools! You don’t like don’t enroll
Islam= Divide and conquer 😮
I support the Principal 100%.
Never happy , never grateful.
Not a Muslim country. More of us should start to stand up for our values. Puting it back into our community ❤
You’re 100% right. And we need to do it while we still can. It’s the only chance we have of stopping this country becoming Muslim. Although with current Muslim birthrates, that might be even harder
Very well said
Deportation
Soon Europe will be Muslim, it's just a matter of time. The low birth rate, strong immigration, lack of pride in historical and cultural heritage, and exaggerated liberalism are what will turn secular Europe into Muslim.
F yea we aren't letting our race and people be wiped out. We are calling out weakness
It's a straight forward Islamist power play. Like deliberately buying up churches to use as mosques etc.
She should take a stand. Tomorrow they'll push for more.
Katherine Birbalsingh should be respected and supported. If parents sign up to the school’s rules and values, they should respect the school’s rules or find another school. British values are constantly under attack. Our education system is turning into a multicultural mess. Segregation does not work in education.
Its that your opinion with lgbtq
Totally agree with the headmistress.
Bravo to this headmistress.
If it isn’t a religious school, pupils shouldn’t be praying at school. Leave school to education. Dont like it, enroll your child in a religious school
Dont try
Or else mus kids willbve radicalized without internet
But then it segregates and divides kids instead of different cultures mixing.
Immigration was never going to work.
Think how it'll be in 50 more years as more arrive with 4+ kids to our 2. They'll dominate until they- Rule Brittania. That song will have to be re-written. We will be their slaves as a minority.
Bill-B.N.P.
What surprises me is the fact that half of the children in the school have no Muslims. This is a prediction of the Muslim future that is to come over Europe. Accept it, you have already lost this "war" in the long term
Or get out and live in a Muslim country
@@Religiondebunkerwhat? Try re reading what you put before pressing send. Are you dyslexic or something?
If the school doesn't suit you go to another. Sorry, can't have muslims doing as they please during the sch day. It's a place for learning not preying.
Mythology shouldn't be taught in school.
Preying is actually what they are doing. Preying on British cultural norms, British traditions and British standards, to say nothing of British young girls. Wake up before it’s too late. Tolerance looks good, until you find its been overwhelmed by the enemy.
Most schools in Britain said The Lord’s Prayer at the start of each day as we were still a Christian country in the 50s and 60s. That has disappeared! If this prayer thing is allowed, we need to bring back Christianity to schools as the Muslims are the ones who came to our country and should fit in with us - not try to dictate to us!!
British should stick to their values and Laws
As a Muslim, I went to a catholic primary school, went to church every week, participated in mass / readings etc, read multiple prayers every day including holy Mary and our father. So did so many other Muslims, as the school was 95%. Muslims don’t have an issue. All that they want, is for some of the students who are more practising, to have a space to pray for 5 mins at lunch. It doesn’t make a difference to anyone else.
This is not an example of Muslims trying to dictate to the rest of the population how to live or run their society, they are asking for a concession to be made for them to be able to maintain their prayers, they are not asking for anyone else to participate in them or seeking to reform the way the school is managed in general, or trying to impose a new curriculum of their own.
How many Christian people are there in England? No offence but most Christian people dont care enough to pray. You dont even follow our religion properly.
Sorry your religion*
It’s not inclusivity when a huge population of your school segregates itself from others. It’s quite the opposite
The school is free to do as it pleases but generally speaking, if segregation signifies being distant from psychopathy then it’s good.
So we should exclude those who segregate themselves with everyone's cooperation? Sounds like this is making an issue out of a non-issue. Don't be so fragile.
If parents want their children to go to a religious school they can send them. We are not a Muslim country. Muslims must not expect all schools to be playing to their tune. It is absurd.
@@ChristiansUnited-qv5is Is everyone on earth that doesn't believe Jesus is Gods son going to hell?
But they are British. And they are Muslims
@@rightherethereeverywhere Yes, 3 times with tafseer, you obviously haven't
@@rightherethereeverywhere Yes i have in context. have you?
If you wish for your kids to go to a Madrasa, then send them to a Madrasa. Don’t expect a country that is not majority ‘your religion’ to change its system for you. Either adapt and fit-in where certain aspects are concerned, or face challenges. You can’t have it both ways. Common sense really…
Again and again islam interfering with our British values and policy
ENOUGH is ENOUGH
Cant they just appreciate having a school to arrend.
I thought tolerance is a British value. Ever heard of it?
Part of British values in 2024 is freedom of Religion. If you hate muslims youth practising their faith at school in their spare break time don't bloody go to their country loot and ruin it. Was it British values to colonise and destroy tens of countries, from Kenya, to Palestine, , to India, and South Africa. Or was it British values to help kill over 1 Million Iraq civilians by accident. Like an employee of company is allowed to practise their faith at during their lunch a student is also free to prostrate to his creator instead of playing football. Drop the they rhetoric, you used it on the Jews, then the blacks and now 2 billion humans who are Muslims. May the eyes of despicable racist humans like yourself never sleep.
@@angeldust7591 unfortunately Muslim don’t appear to understand tolerance 🤷♂
@@angeldust7591 Muslims/Islam is/are the least tolerant of all religions. Why should we tolerate, a non-tolerant religion?
@@BigBad-zg5rh shhhh I only listen to intelligent people, whose being intolerant here?
Not a Muslim country!!!
You want to go to a Christian , Catholic , Islamic school by all means utilise your religious practices in those schools . Public schools are neutral and shall remain free of religion so it can be inclusive .
Secular hypocrisy reveals itself when they constantly try to close Christian schools
You’re banning kids from exercising their right to spend their lunch how they want? What ticked you off clearly is that it’s Muslim doing this.
Would you have the same outrage if it was Christian’s wanting to pray?
Or kids wanting to do yoga at lunch for their mental health?
By denying this you’re just denying your kids rights in the future to do as they wish on their lunch break. It’s bigger than just Muslims.
Should Michaela have to offer a chapel for Christian students, a synagogue type area for Jewish students, a temple type area for Hindus and Buddhists students etc etc? You accommodate one religion, you need to accommodate every religion. A school's job is to educate. KB, stay strong! You are doing right by your students.
Totally agreed. School shld be united & not division. I support her base on logic & common sense. Too many hatred & violence & shld not start from school.
Yes,well said.KB stay strong.
They signed up for this and then they want to dismantle the rule?? Enough of the madness.
Every one of those religions agree with this , just one that always has a problem with everyone
@@6422022did that when they moved here. That was the ultimate goal. Just doing it in small stages.
Ban those students from school! They are trouble makers!!
It’s probably the parents and the imams ( Islamists )who are causing the fuss , this is leading to the increasing anti Muslim sentiment.
Ungrateful and entitled children.
We are all Children of God🤷♀️🤦 They are praying for you since you are too lazy to pray for yourself and your country and our Planet.
The UK and its citizens are in a spiritual deficit. Prayers bring in positive energy and bless your country. Thank you Muslims for all the good you do in the UK.
Amen, Ameen and Hallelulia!
@@colleenpeck6347The are the created of God. We are all Children of God and you should be thankful that they are uplifting your country spiritually and bringing in lots of blessings.
Peace out🤞💫💞
We teach the religion at home. Bhuddhism is a way of life. The whole school cal listen to classical music and meditate to calm the mind. Why a religious label. Be a good person
It's a school not a place of worship. Another blow to turning the UK muslim
If they know this rule before the children are enrolled then just expel them for continually breaking school rules. Don’t teach the children that it’s ok to break rules just because they feel like it.
Weren't they be arrested for all this praying, oh no sorry that was a Christian lady praying out in the street.
Silently!
Oh now come on they have nothing to do with each other. Nothing at all. She was told she had to stay away from the clinic she broke the law. Let’s not make a martyr out of her, because she’s far from it.
@@sugarkane4830 - That's not true though is it?
🤪🤪🤪
@@sugarkane4830 so she was told to stay away from the clinic for praying or preaching, the same thing in schools now ALL FAITHS ARE BANNED, DEAL WITH IT IF YOU WANT THE SAME FOR CHRISTIANS IN PUBLIC
The praying is to demonstrate Muslim sovereignty.
... if not muslim dominance
Exactely. Enough of this nonsense. We are being taken the piss off.
The question is - are these children obliged to worship allah 5 times per day and if so who is forcing children to participate in a religion they may or may not want to?
In Britain children are not compelled by any religious doctrine not by a Church, school or parents.
It's considered child abuse to force children into a religion.
Muslim isn't a religion?? To demonstrate sovereignty to pray
Leftie idiot
praying at school is discriminatory and offending against atheist children, of atheist parents. But also against religions of other ethnic minorities, religions like Olympian Dodekatheism, Orphism, Zoroastrianism, Mithraism, traditional Hinduism, Druism, etc, etc. What kind of religious impartiality are you trying to achieve? Better no pray at all. Bravo to this sane head teacher.
I would rather say insane teacher. If you have no god in your life then you have nothing my dear
Well send kids to Atheist schools and be taught by Atheist teachers Simple
@@julielawlor5482 This is a secular school, so should have no religion.
The guy is a weasel he knows it's about showing Muslim dominance over the rest of us
It's all crap!!! You're at school. You're in Britain.....not Baghdad!
ironically 800 years ago baghdad was a prospering city under the abbasid caliphate, sadly it only we t downhills after the mongol invasion
Absolutely true ❤
If you try to be secular then you will see a new britanistan very soon
These comments are actually insane. It's their break or lunch time. Why can't they do what they like if it doesn't intrude upon or harm anyone else. It's not even like they're being loud or disruptive.
The argument that ppl feel excluded is ridiculous when so many are praying together. No other activity would be inclusive of up to 30+ children. This is embarrassing and this teacher clearly has an axe to grind. She is the wrong person to lead a school when the demographic is 50% muslim students.
Omg love this cdnt agree more it’s an utter disgrace 🤮
Well, Baz Ramiah - in that case, these students should get educated in a Sharia school. When they enrolled in this school students and their parents knew the school's policies. No one should be changing their policies to suit one religion or a group. Such entitled pests.
Prayer rooms, abolishing bacon sandwiches, covering women on the ground not to get rapped and ultimately sharia law. People are forgetting this is a Christian country.
Going to a Sharia school would not be an ideal situation. Yet, neither, in my opinion, does religion belong in a government school.
My belief if that one's religion should not constantly rule life outside the home, or religious institution.
No-one would know my beliefs, by my behaviour.
@@carmenbyrne6521 Exactly There is a time and a place for everything.
@@Valhalla-vk7hf 👍
@@luxpursuits
Thank you. Time governments spoke up. Britain is a CHRISTIAN country, with the King as head of the Anglican Church, for goodness sake!
People wanting to make Britain their home, should respect that, and temper their religious expectations accordingly.
PS: I'm not British, although living in a Commonwealth country.
As was pointed out at the beginning. Parents signed up to send their children to a secular school. Therefore, if these children don't now like this kind of ethos they should go to a muslim school.
Or clear off to Islamic countries.
Why is it that every other religion is fine and able to compromise if it is a blanket policy across all groups?
We pray 5 times a day and they should be allowed to do this at their break times.
When i was a child we had an assembly every morning where we would sing hymns and we would pray , to God. But schools dont practice Christianity any longer. Bring Christianity back in that case, just to make it fair. And im fed up of all this safe space rubbish for certain groups of people.
NO, get rid of all indoctrination into superstition. You want to believe a fantasy, fine, do it in your own time.
Yes as A Muslim I Agree God Keeps Us All Accountable Regardless of what Religion you follow
While listening to this discussion, I think about those young lads in the trenches, desperately praying to God to spare them, seconds before they went ' over the top '. My God how we've let them down.
Pupil should find another school.
Or go back to their homelands with their parents.
Religion - regardless of which - is something students can practice outside of school hours.
Very true, pray out of school hours
Or they can pray in the middle the street.
@@Talk4UK 😀😀😀👍
To practice Islam “correctly” prayers need to be conducted a specific times. If the UK stands by religious freedom to practice, then all schools in the UK will need to provide both time and space for Muslim prayer.
Islam pushes, the rest of the country falls back. It’s all part of the strategy to dominate the country, there is a good chance the pupil will win in court, unless the UK abandoned “freedom to practice”!
@@davidgifford8112That can be done without it being a group activity. I don't think it should be done though. Being free to practice something doesn't mean being free to impose it on others. it just means no one's going to stop you from practicing your faith. No one can tell you you're not allowed to be a Muslim or a Jew or a Christian or whatever. Muslims should have to figure it out themselves. People from other religions of had to do that in free societies as well. Compromising the values of an entire society to accommodate the wishes of one group is absolutely wrong and will wreak havoc.
Lol she said schools are not a mosque. We dont need a mosque to pray.
Well done to this teacher, she is showing that values such as discipline and rules actually produce good results; this situation highlights something in the rest of the country, there's always that one group who put religion before anything else and are always quick to cause trouble when they don't get there way, religion has no place in school.
That man was obnoxious as hell 😡
Deport him and all like him
This is what happens when the loudest voices are spouting. And having a tantrum. We have pampered up to these people for too long. Time it stopped.
@@lasttango7522 yes I agree this is sadly the case such individuals spouting utter nonsense but sound credible as they dress it up so well! 🤔
Absolutely. I’m sure there’s NOTHING that the female head teacher can learn from him. He’s just displaying his stupid patriarchal muscle.
All Muslims are
Pray at home like everyone else - in your own time.
Obey our rules ? End of, otherwise go learn at another school. Head teacher is spot on
if Christian students tried to stop every so many hours to pray on a prayer rug at school they would get expelled.
We can’t even talk about Jesus, without someone getting offended
@@mollychik4487 Islam is not a religion. Islam is a Godless lie started by FALSE Abrahamic Prophet of God Muhammad. Archbishop Justin Welby, the head of the Church of England, can easily verify that. He is compelled to do so.
I am English, I am white British. Why allow these people to dictate to us?
This person is not English. Go back to where you came from.
It's 5 minutes a maximum of once or twice during school hours, one of them during lunch hours, how can a 5 min prayer be a problem I will never understand?
This country is changing rapidly, and all for the worse.
@@ChristiansUnited-qv5isso every religion if you look closer...
No doubt
If this goes in favour of the pupil, then this country is definitely finished
Is already 70 % finished
If not stop then will be Islamic country soon.
The dude mentions a muslim girls' school as a great example. Well, do they have hindu prayer rooms for boys there? No, because it's a muslim girls' school. Likewise, Michaela is a non-religious school. Not so hard to understand
Schools are for learning. Keep religion away from schools.
If you do not like the rules go to another school, this is the problem with fundamentalist dogma especially Islam, a school is about education not religious indoctrination. If you want to go to a Muslim school then go, in the west we have a separation of church and state, the religion is not the state (Sharia law) we don't do that here, if you don't like you have the freedom to leave the country.
Steering kids away from Islam is consistent with their goal of "getting troubled kids back on the right track".
No school should encourage a path that leads to poverty, hatred and violence.
It's not just praying, you have to have a ritual wash beforehand which requires even more facilities.
This head teacher and her collegues should be fully suported by anyone one left in the islamo marxist Education Dept The school should have full 24 security to prevent intimidation and buying by the local Fundemenntalist Lunatics !
Sorry but they are living in a Christian country so when in Rome do as the Roman....am fed up with so called ‘discrimination against Muslims’ crap that is always thrown at us.....enough. I think that headteacher is absolutely right to make a stand.!!!!!!!!
What is the difference between dominance and takeover by one religion, and religious freedom in Britain?
You can pray anytime like when you get home!!!
When people get used to preferential treatment - equal treatment seems like discrimination.
Dr Thomas Sowell:
Its a activist charity , trying to impose islam. It should be banned this practice.
Enough of this nonsense. Schools need to focus on teacher students an academic curriculum. The schools are getting involved in too much nonsense.
@ChristiansUnited-qv5is I think that you are very confused, you don't seem to be saying things which make any sense. How is a synagogue a political institution? It is a religious church for Jewish people, it is not political, they are not a political group, that is ridiculously stupid. They are very well integrated in society, and have always been, anywhere in the world. The same can't be said about Muslims and mosques.
What a bloody cheek. Yet another nail in the coffin that is Great Britain
Going to high court. How pathetic this country is.
Time for her/him to leave .....when is it OK that the MAJORITY bows to the minority
Minority rights are protected in a democracy. Practice what you preach.
This is what you imbeciles have enabled for decades now! You reap what you sow! 🤡🙄🥱
This is passive bullying, and a complete abuse of our kind and accepting nature as a nation of people, this only shows a complete contempt for our values. The answer is to take religion out of all schools. If you wish your child to be formally educated with religion at the forefront of your childs education then send them to a private school that caters for this and it should be funded by the parent not the state.
They are here to scrounge and to dominate.
Correct, i bet 1/2 of these muzz kids dont even know what they are praying for.
Your society had better woken up cos its dealing with a people whose ideological stance has no place for boundaries, a people who want to force everyone to imbibe their stupid culture.
Absolutely.... From your Irish Neighbour....!😊
Have you noticed how some folk expect us to respect their sensitivities and facilitate their ways, but that it only works in one direction…🤔
Banning religions of all faiths is entirely appropriate. Religion is not a requirement, nor should it be, for any career.
We should banish the secular vision that is arrogant to the point of wanting to impose itself on others, under the lie of tolerance.
@@cavaleirosemlicenca3894 Secular is where we all start from. Religion is taught.
You talk of Secular vision wanting to impose itself while wanting to "banish" Secular vision.
??
It is inappropriate to deny people to connect with the Divine or God or to a Higher Power. We are creating spiritual deficits in our communities, countries and across the planet when we do so.
Dis-empowerment of the individual or citizen is morally unjust and wrong. God is Great and Good and Merciful. Remembering God is our key to happiness.
@@SalaamVegan Which God?
Or should all students be taught about all religions.
@@cavaleirosemlicenca3894 You are unstable.
Not only are we expected to tip toe around them, now we're expected to pander to their every whim.
Grooming gang compliance from tha police and councils proved that eh? Scared to upset tha muslim community😂. Shocking behaviour.🤮
Imagine If you are a Christian in a Muslim country and wanted to take time out to pray , what do you think would happen , don't think they would set up a prayer room for you 🫵👊💥😵
Spot on and no time given on Sundays as that’s working day for Islam.
No, they are intimidating and killing other faiths. But hey, why let the truth get in the way of the fairy tale of their loving peaceful cult!!!!
Double standards as always
@@JH-ck1nrMuslims are peaceful and loving but definitely not a Cult. You have been misinformed.
Now that American white guy called Jimmy Jones was a deadly Cult leader. He had over 900+ people drink Kool-Aid laced with cyanide in the Guyanese jungle in South America. You have to know your real cult leaders.
You can’t just assume, go visit a Muslim country.
For gods sake this is a Christian country follow our traditions and laws
Yes. You can't separate education and religion. What you believe to be a secular religion is just another religion. That is the religion of secularism and liberalism. There is no such thing as neutrality. Call me forward-thinking, but I believe the British public will soon catch up and revert to Catholicism as this was the religion that built our country, its institutions and the educational capital that we are still living off (albeit we are about to run out). Only through the Christian faith can Britain restore its culture and rebuild.
@@Native_Man123no it can't, Christianity is a toxic religion, you know that priests have touched children? Inappropriately I must add.
It is simple, practising religion should be out of school except if the individual school is aimed for a specific religion.
But the churches are empty on Sundays
@@fatimamalik3018 Nope
what fornicate, sexually transmit diseases, destroy yourself with alcohol, destroy yourself, your family and society?
Why does the school need to change for one segment of society. This is nuts
Why is she being attacked when she is turning lives around and producing results???
School is for education not pray. You pray after school.
Have you been to a Church of England or Catholic School recently ?? You are 100% dumb
Pupils are in school to learn ,they can do their praying at home and in their own time out of school.Stand your ground it is a school not a place of worship.
100% agrees . Real religious people support that. Only the show off want to pray in school, during work hours, in street …. Just crazy
It doesn't work like that. Let you start your shift at 9:00amBut you decide to come at 11:00 am. You will get paid. There are some prayers you have to do at the precise time.
It's too much to ask for a prayer room?
This non negotiable prayer came first above all else.
Quran 51:56
I did not create jinn and humans except to worship Me
Therefore it's not difficult to ask for a prayer room..if others putt education first we are different ,we need to respect each other. And no judge what others want to do. . remember we are not all the same beliefs.
Why havent British schools, got the protection of the police and British law ?against being harassed or abused or protected against protesters?
Nothing but trouble, time after time.
Why did we let half of the the middle east here
That's a wonderful solution 😮
@@blossom6473 is was a question ...
Why did we let half of the middle east into England. Certain areas might as well be Baghdad
@@jakejames4757 I agree sorry I didn't answer well! Well it's the damn government and their lax immigration laws and that damn refugee convention, which should be scraped ! Just a complete mess.
@@jakejames4757 yes look at Bradistan and Londonstan 😳 terrible
To rub diversity in our face sure
Religon should have nothing to do with education.
You can study theology at various educational institutions including universities and colleges across the world.
@@SalaamVegan thats correct, you have the choice to study it or not then thats the difference, primary and high schools force it upon children the very same as the lgtbq+shite it dosent belong there leave the kids alone thats the job of the parent not a nonce teacher.
Why should you pray at school when you should be learning things you shouldn’t be allowed
If you were Christian in a Muslim country, try asking for a prayer room there and see what happens
Didn't think it would be too long before religion started taking over the way schools have been going for many many years . Totally giving this country away .
People like you have been saying that for the past 50 years and it still hasn't happened. They only want to pray at break time that's all, school breaks in the playground are horrible for alot of children anyway, alot of bullying and friendship issues going on. Not missing much and they are getting exercise from the act of prayer.
So a perverted and debaucherous culture should be forced onto conservative people. Are you dressing in womens clothes yet?
What like Roman Catholic or Church of England schools?
@@user-nz4ts5ek6u Bit obvious what religion you are.
Yes, they took out Christian prayer and hymns, even though it’s a Christian country, but I’m sure the woke UK will will allow Islam soon enough! Until there is a revolution anyhow.
These are not protests, it’s a show of victory of islamification over the U.K.
Let’s not pretend we weren’t warned
Interesting perspective. You have a point here.
Performative faith. Using children to further their ends.
Nobody needs a room to pray. Or to face x or sit on y whilst eating Smarties and singing "my ol man's a dustman." You want to do something that pointless, do it in your own head on your own time to your own made-up sky daddy.
There's allways the bog.
This nonsense must stop! Her school is superior to most others and we need more people like her. If the parents don’t want this they should take their children elsewhere. The pressure Muslims are using to change Britain must be resisted. Baz Ramaiah is exactly the sort of person me must oppose. When the Muslim faith accepts gay people and allows women greater freedom I might start respecting them more. What sort of faith encourages such prejudice and world-wide dissension.
Didn't she found a non religious school? It's possible for others to open religious schools if they want to.
It’s the beginning of the end of our life in this country as we know it
Only if the British Public allow it.
Stand up then dimlo! Thought not 🤡🙄🥱
the abdool is simply mouthing the sharia supremacy he is commanded to preach
Why does this man make it sound as though the "praying" students are much brighter? smh.
Just wonder who is funding this case
Mullah’s and Arabs.
This is orchestrated by adults who have an agenda. Good on the head teacher for her stance; I hope that she gets the support and not attacked from all who wish to virtue signal and pander to those complaining and whinging just because they can and they usually get away with it.
These pupils can leave this school if they don’t get their way. Only then will they realise how lucky they were they had a place at this very excellent school! Serves them right!
If there's hundreds of other schools why does this school need to change? Why can't parents have the choice of secualr schools? Why is it Islam and Muslims have to access everywhere? Why?
Because we are on the true path n you people with feeble mind wont understand. Ooen your eyes and look around you. Deep down yoi have no peace at all whilst muslim no matter how hard life gets we are satisfy and always thankful to our God. Why so may celebrities areconverting to Islam? Its because they find peace in it.
Omg the pupil should go and live in a Muslim country 😳
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@MH-bf4uu why NO???
No they born here lol
@@bishbishtv3748 yes 👍 but don’t wanna live under our law?? So go live in a Muslim state rule then? And just cause someone is born here don’t mean they can live here not respecting the laws and traditions??? Free to go live anywhere they feel comfortable with but not think they can live there and not be lawful and loyal to them 👋🫵🏻
It’s not mosque it’s school
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It is a school. However, Muslims do not just pray in mosques. Any ground can be a place to establish prayer. The prayer does not inhibit academic growth or the child's ability to engage in other school activities.
@@hasnanhussain6512 give it a break 🫠. Stop praying everywhere to show your superiority. It's ridiculous! Years ago Muslims in this country never made this amount of fuss. Just shows you guys are a pervasive and violent force when you multiply in numbers!
Im callin BS on the spontanious PRAYING that was planned
Wish I'd never heard the word "muslim"......worst thing to happen to uk. No enrichment at all
Why The Hatred?
@@great-ape who used the word hatred???
State schools are separated from religion. They are about education and learning. If Muslims want to pray 5×/day at school - they should go to Muslim school.
Or go to tha middle east😂
@@jamescollins-ci6hgbest they should go to Gaza
@@tennantofnight they scared to go there caus they can't protest on their streets like here,😂, plus they all to pussy to go fight, caus they know theyl not come back alive😂
@@tennantofnightwtf are you alright? It's a warzone lad
@@jamescollins-ci6hgwhat go to Middle East where Jesus came from? What a joke
When I grew up … none of the Muslims did any prayers at school!
Btw I’m not Christian and neither I’m a Muslim.
Same here in the U.S.
We made these incredible extended legislation of human rights for minorities so we got in this position to be bullied by these minorities.
How would you know? I used to go to a corner, maximum 5 min, off you go
@@saraadam3537they didn't have head down and bottom up.
They never did at my school either
Having lived in Turkey for a part of my life & Turkey being also a secular state . The only thing there is that 90% + of the people are islamic and less than 10% christian. The reverse of the situation in the uk . In a school there you do not see the children stopping 5 times a day to pray . When you hear the call to prayer and you sit near a house of prayer most people just keep on working . My thinking is that the islamic people in the uk should take note of this
If you give special dispensation to Muslim prayer, why not to Christian prayer? We are after all a Christian country aren't we?
People know what the rules are when they enrol,if your religion is so important to you,then go to a religious school and let the people who choose not to,attend this one .
This is all drama to pray at school
If you allow to pray in the school next day they will ask something else
Their demand is not going to stop
They want all to convert