"An Absolute Melting Pot That Area, A Complete Recipe For Disaster" Isabel Oakeshott On Prayer Ban
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- Опубликовано: 16 янв 2024
- A school led by ‘Britain’s strictest teacher' Katharine Birbalsingh is being challenged in the High Court over a policy allegedly amounting to a "prayer ban".
Michaela School in Brent, north London, introduced a policy in March 2023 "banning prayer rituals" and a Muslim student at the school told the High Court on Tuesday the policy is discriminatory.
The court also heard that the school has faced an online campaign over its approach to religion, as well as threats of violence, abuse and false allegations of Islamophobia.
The Talk Panel discuss the controversy surrounding the "prayer ban" and how religion should fit into the British school system.
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This is Britain, 🇬🇧 not a muslim country.
Free Free BRITAIN!
I only wish it was a secular country, like France.
Nor is Britain a Christian country, nor a Catholic country.
@@HarrySmith-hr2iv Britain was built on Christianity. Our flag is a Christian cross.
From the coast of Dover to the French Channel Britain will be free 😂😂
A pupil didn’t take the school to court. A legal aid lawyer did
Why do we have to pay for the undermining of our own society?
And if he loses the case, who pays? The British tax payer. If he loses make him/her/them/non binding gender pay out of their own pocket
Oh yeah a legal aid lawyer who just happened to learn about it by osmosis...
@@nickbarber2080not paying, would undermine our society.
@@Pantifaximile ...and paying undermines our society too.
So..which way would you like to see society progress?
Yet Christians get arrested for simply silent praying
Silently praying indeed, only arrested because the woman had the guts to admit it.
I applaud her twice, once for doing it( despite the ludicrous legal ban ) and two for admitting to it, showing the aforementioned ban is risible.
Outside an abortion clinic with the intention of harassing the women attending.
@@ianhill4585 You commend her. Seriously let’s not make this crank into some kind of hero. She was there against an order to stay away. Woman have the right to visit that clinic without religious zealots intimidating them. I find her utterly discusting.
@@sugarkane4830 And she has the right to stand there and pray , religious persecution is not lawful in this country, you be discusted ( sic) that's your right to be wrong, see how it works yet? Have a think.......
I try to be honest. If I choose to pray, it’s probably not going to be in the street, outside an abortion clinic and for the camera. If I were to do those things for the general or specific harassment of others going about their lawful business, I might not be so quick to describe what I was doing as prayer. The greatest commandment, which is in iteration of the philosophical golden rule is to love our neighbour as ourself. Prayer as an instrument for the vilification, harassment or unwarranted interference with others who may be vulnerable or troubled in any event, does not fall within my own ideas of a bona fide conversation with God. What staggers me is the fundamental gullibility of those who believe any old crank in the street when they claim they are praying.
This is just another Muslim flex. She needs to stand her ground!
Britain is not a Christian country, nor a Catholic country.
Its criminal that we have to tip toe around the sensibilities of a barbarian mindset.
She needs to be supported strongly by the government and by society. Do not leave her to have to hide away from Muslim violence like others. It's easy to say stand her ground but we are not in her position.
The political elite will sell her out. Most are either scared too talking about Islam or are utterly deluded about it. That teacher is still in hiding for showing a picture of Muhammed. A British family. They had to change the names of themselves and their children. Instead the secret service should have hunted down those giving death threats and sent them to be prosecuted and then jailed. But our government is weak weak weak.
@@scousemouse9715 it was the UK that had the barbarian mindset in the time of empire. Much criminality was done. For which the UK has not asked forgiveness or paid reparations.
If prayer is so important to your family send your child to a Muslim school, I’m sure there are many. If you’re catholic send you child to a catholic school.
Or better still, outlaw faith based school, outlaw religious ceremonies in school, promote secular values and try to achieve a semblance of integration in British society rather than the continued separation of “communities” and the atomisation of British society.
@@UglyRugby yeah, because secular values are really working. Take God - and specifically Christianity - out of our culture, you get the chaos we see all around us. The west has its values, its education, it's hospitals, rooted in Christianity which, up until 5 minutes ago, worked. Christian based schools provide the best education out there. There's a reason why non believers want to get their kids into religious schools.
@@paulhatton9564 That's the problem though. GB is being over run by non-Christians.
@@UglyRugby But all that is doing is giving in to the pressure brought about by issues such as Katherine is facing. When did we ever have a problem with a Catholic school, a Church of England school or a Jewish school? Why should they be closed down because another faith is causing problems? What might we close down next in order to stem this particular tide? Pubs - because Islam forbids the consumption of alcohol? Kennels and owning dogs as pets because they're also haram? The selling of pork in supermarkets and butchers shops? It's a very slippery slope.
There should be NO religious schools !!!
This is intimidation and she needs all of us to support her ❤
I blame the parents, society is broken, unmarried mother's with children from multiple (absent) fathers, terrible role model's, drink, drugs & crime is glamourized.
Id like to see the Children engage with more Prayer.
The government needs to take her approach , she’s correct
She is not
She really is. School is for learning, not praying.
@@SajjadKhan-cl3yf yes she is following the rules is important u don't like take your child out simple show some respect
@@SajjadKhan-cl3yfThis is a Christian country. Islamic law does not apply here. Like it or leave.
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Well no, really, it isn't a Christian country, because we had largely got over religion, but now the religion of the invaders is being enforced with the help of an indigenous fifth column.
Islam creating a problem and then demanding a solution and making us pay for it.
No surprise there then!!
Stop making things up and get out more.
Stop deceiving yourself and telling people what to do.@@Naomi-de2ps
It does get me angry when on multiple occasions Muslims say their religion is peaceful and then people who coincidentally happen to be Muslims threaten people.
@@Naomi-de2psWhom?
We are a Christian country. Why should one religion demand special privileges.
Britain is not a Christian country, nor a Catholic country.
Imagine if British students living in a Muslim country asked for a Chapel to pray in !!!!!Not on!!
@@margarethall4559 When I was at a state school in the late 1950s we always had a morning assembly, which meant 20 minutes of prayer and hymns. The Headmaster would always announce 'Can all Jewish Students leave and go to their own classroom for prayer. And can all Catholics leave and go to their prayer room.' Separate classrooms for their religious beliefs.
We are not a christian country at all, we are mainly secular. Most people realise the idea of any god is something from the dark ages
Do you HEAR yourself?
She is an absolute stunner of a headmaster and a teacher. Those kids will be much better of for the education they get in her school, rather then praying rituals every day.
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@@berylwelch3526 Fair point, and he does say he is being devils advocate. It should apply to everyone. Pray at home, at your temple, during the weekend, but not at school.
@@Alex-mn1fbwhat next? Ban singing of songs?
@@civildiscourse7626If the song is by Gong and the title is " opium for the people " then no 😂
The head teacher is correct in what she is doing we need more head teachers like her
3:15 Thank Goodness for this amazing headteacher,
We don't need more headteacher like her
@@SajjadKhan-cl3yf it would appear you are in a tiny minority
@@keith8609 The surname tells you everything
Who would believe that they are having this debate in the UK. Incredible.
I would believe anything that happens in the UK, and it's going to get worse.
It's a secular state. Why are you surprised?
In Belgium we enforce a neutral policy in the public schools. No religious symbols. No crosses , no head scarfs. It is continually challenged by Muslims in court as well. But it still stands.
How many years is it until Muslims become the majority in Belgium. Ten?.
They really need to say why they won’t live in a Muslim country, if it means so much to them….highly self serving to disrupt the host country.
unfortunately we live in a country where the folk in charge have no backbone.
@@theinngu5560 The standard of living in most muslim countries is not good as far as social benefits and health care go. And each muslim has to pursue jihad at least once. It's about the islamification of the world.
This school had the same rules! Every parent signed up to these rules! So if the Muslim parents now don't want to abide by the contract,off you go. Not go by the usual route of intimidation,blackmail threats?
Diversity is our weakness.
So why did colonial and imperial Britain go around the planet f**king up everyone else ?
I agree with the Headteacher on this. No one group of student shouldn't be treated any differently from the other group. Its not a mosque, a church, a temple or a synagogue.
It's funny how everyone agrees now but no issues when transgenders were giving special treatment as in allowing a man into women changing rooms. Special treatment here was no problem
Remember Ray Honeyford?
Students are there to be educated. Her job is to educate them. End of. I don't understand the attacks against her. A headmistress that actually gives a crap and puts all into caring for her students above everything else when others care more about their paychecks and pension and she is the one fearing for her life.
Ask yourself this!
If parents didn't indoctrinate there children and there was nobody to tout the idea of god, how many children do you think would be connected to said God.
Unfortunately this is tribalistic bullshit pushed by generation and generation onto generation after generation.
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Completely agree, we seem to have forgotten that school is there to educate and not as a vehicle for self expression or a place for kids to experiment. There is plenty of opportunity to express your faith outside of the relatively small amount of time that you spend at school.
No sorry educate really then you educate that Muslims pray and have to pray , schools want to teach other things to students today then why try and stop educating about other faiths and practice those , you can act out sports and drama , dance etc but praying that’s where you draw the line REALLY .
@@zierra2472 You accommodate one religion you need to accommodate all religions. Katharine explains the sacrifices each religion/student has to make in order to attend her school. The parents and students are very aware of expectations before starting there. Islam isn't more important than the other religions. Attend a school that accommodates Islam prayer rituals. Problem solved.
No need to say which religion is kicking up a fuss
AGAIN? Threats,intimidation,even bomb threats! What do their children learn ? 😢😢😢
@@Michael-sq5gnThat it is murderous fascistic and totalitarian
Well of course the ones there trying to stop practicing there faith , and rightly so they should kick up a fuss
Michaela make you sign a code of conduct document so you are agreeing to the schools polices. We all know what happens when one Muslim pupil complains… the whole system is bent to accommodate.
I am a teacher and Katherine is my heroine, I have learnt more from her than a million pointless 'training' sessions.
Means you have not been to a training session.
@SajjadKhan-cl3yf The sun was not split In two half's, the sun doesn't set in a muddy pool and sperm does NOT come from between the backbone and the ribs and your NOT getting 72 virgins get a grip.
@@SajjadKhan-cl3yf Islam is wrong in its teachings, you don't even have the original Uthman's collection
Hold the line.
Trainings teach you to respect tolerate and accept other cultures and costumes, this headteacher teaches you to your way is only way not accept no respect !
Who is paying the lawyer fees and barrister fees?. Because none of the parents that send their kids to school is rich. The Muslim students are primarily from first generation refugees families…. WHO IS FUNDING THIS???
Taxpayers.They'll have a free lawyer that we pay for.
Free Free BRITAIN!
@@Zippy741 Spot on.
You know
The taxpayer,ie you and me !!😮
Multiculturalism is utter nonsense. We need to have mono-culture where everyone sticks to a socially cohesive approach to learning. I support the head teacher wholeheartedly. Get rid of woke nonsense.
Yes I agree too
we need to have a British secular culture. This is not the middle east, this is a once great nation with a lot to be thankful for due to the efforts of our forebears
We need to make sure everyone goes to the pub😊
Me too.
@shirleystein6521 Shirley so you thinks it's ok to stop children from prayers may I ask gently what will they miss out when praying thanks
Wow. Muslim pupil
Absolutely Nuts
Teacher 1 MILLION times correct
It is terrifying how cohesion is being torn apart by people who have never really integrated and are becoming more and more belligerent as their numbers and influence grows .This country is in big , big trouble .God help the future generations who are going to have to live with this . What an "inheritance " we are bequeathing them by letting it happen on our "watch " .
The preening government and the woke movement pushed for this calling it diversity. It does not work look at Sweden, same rubbish!
Do you want them to integrate? Why would you? much rather have them out of my life. Out of my face.
@@Wolf-hh4rv Well integrating is better than non-integrating that's for sure but that said , I have long come to believe that mono-cultures work best .
It can easily be fixed.
@@Wolf-hh4rv UK needs to become more diverse multifaith and multicultural.
She is a fantastic headteacher who drives her students to achieve great things. Surely these are by far the most important outcomes any parents could want for their children?
Not for Muslim children apparently
Islam flexing ? Quelle surprise !
Flex too much and you will break.
@@jimdavis8391
They've been flexing for 1400 yrs and they are yet to break.
Give her a MBE , CBE and any other award. She has balls. Something that's lacking in most of our leaders
sick of this, you don't make the education decisions here. Not good enough for you, then leave
They have been trying to cancel her for years.
Bravo. Well done to this school. This nonsense has to stop.
Batley Grammar School is a classic example of what happens when the governors of a school cave in to muslim pressure from a mob. Katharine is absolutely right, it's her school and she ,makes the rules. Shame that other school governing bodies don't have the same bottle. I've just watched a short RUclips video showing a young british schoolboy being intimidated into becoming a muslim. Haven't noticed any outcry there.
That's how that particular cancer spreads.
It is not for her to make the rules. Nor is it her school. The rules are made by the education secretary. The school is also the education secretaries.
@@SajjadKhan-cl3yfYou don't understand! She made the rules,with others,and the parents,All of them signed them in agreement! So if those Muslim parents do not agree,then Leave the school..Do. not make bomb threats,don't make threats to the Head,do not make threats to teachers,and do not try to intimidate the school! They signed up for the rules. Leave if they didn't understand?
@@Michael-sq5gnHe doesn't care about that. He despises the "difference" between Islam and all non Muslims. Mono mania to convert everything and establish a caliphate
@@Michael-sq5gn
The rules changed ...
Offended by everything, Ashamed of nothing.
she sounds like an amazing headteacher, parents should support her and be grateful their children are doing well and they have a place in a more than decent school (many kids don't!), its also nice to hear someone in education that isn't captured and afraid to do the right thing, let her get on with running an outstanding school
Free Free BRITAIN!
This is a secular democracy in which this head is preparing pupils to live. This case almost certainly arises from the parents of this particular pupil. Religions in general and this one in particular only survive due to the indoctrination of children by parents and family. The head should be congratulated (and protected).
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It is not a secular democracy the head of state is the head of the church of England and the theiving politicians who govern on his behalf recieve money to bring in immigrants . The reason immigrants come is hiraj immigrate to spread Islam which gives them a special place in paradise or one up with Allah . !
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Our heritage, our all, in the West is Christianity.
I think your right many in the middle east are turning away from Islam especially in Iran
Question from the first bloke - 'playing Devil's advocate, if the school had banned Christian worship first thing in the morning, wouldn't a massive fuss have been kicked up?'
Answer - No.
And even so, Christianity has roots in our country. Islam doesnt
Christian assemblies are no longer common place in non faith schools.
The answer is that it is Secular school to which every parent signed up to?
Christianity was in my school song, daily hymns in assembly, our calendar with its traditions and ceremonies, the terms and holidays, Easter and Christmas… Christianity was the glue. Is the West. Comes first. Must not bow out of our Nation so as to accommodate foreigners sho come to the West wishing to mould it into their image. Christianity is not a tradition. It is everything.
Christians are called to “pray without season”- there’s not any set time to worship or pray☺️
Free free BRITAIN!
From Dover to Portree, the United Kingdom shall be free!
Yes a free for all apart from the indigenous people who pay for the free for all!
Britain can't free itself from it's past. Britain can't free itself from itself. Britain can never be free.
Pray at home this is insane theres all religion in schools
Cant pray times occur during school hrs unless the law allows students to go home to pray then fine
Which religion was this linked to again ? Was it the religion of peace by any chance ? Just wondered. If any of the children at this school or their parents don't like the way things are done, they are free to be educated elsewhere.
Free free BRITAIN!
Free Free BRITAIN!
The one faith that doesn't get along with anyone.
The 1 faith where people actually beleive
God bless this headteacher let's hope she wins her case!!
Troublemakers everywhere they go. Shouldn't have let them in in the first place.
I live in tbe part of NW London referred to here. It was a melting pot when I first moved here 35 years ago and still is, albeit a different kind of melting pot now. The school certainly serves some very deprived areas, although not as deprived as many in East or South London. That said, objectively it's not quite as "tough" as it's portrayed here. I have very nice Romanian and Polish neighbours who buy me presents at Christmas and Easter. I regularly walk past Katharine Birbalsingh's school at chucking-out time and the behaviour of its pupils is far better than it was at my extremely tough all-boys' grammar school 50 years ago. Katharine is 100% right in saying that multiculturalism requires sacrifices and right to ban prayers. I for one stand with her. What's significant is that there are other religious groups at this school. and others in the area, e.g. Hindus, Sikhs, Jews, Catholics, and they don't seem to have a problem with the restrictions on prayers. It strikes me that these groups are willing to make the kind of sacrifices that are necessary in what is an irrevocably diverse society. I hope that Katharine's approach is vindicated and that this action against her school doesn't succeed ; she is doing a great job for NW London's young people.
Well other faiths clearly don’t hold there faiths seriously like Muslims do obviously, and Muslims will never sacrifice anything for there faith as that would be sacrificing paradise , you want to sacrifice things for this short life on earth go ahead but Muslims won’t .
Prayers are personal for personal time. Imagine how some of the girls affected by grooming gangs ( I imagine there are many more now) would feel, having this in their school! No other religion takes up precious school time for prayers! They are not superior to everyone else! They need to realise that only their faith teaches that! Enough said!
Good for her!
Absolute rubbish .
The school is amazing and should be given the full support from the Government and courts.
If you want to pray at school move to Pakistan.
It is compulsory for British schools to provide a collective daily act of worship for pupils. The fact that very few do doesn't mean that the law has changed
She is absolutely right....If the world took on this attitude, then it might be a better place.
Stop the world ,and let me get off ffs,you couldnt me up this crap
Good decision, discipline is important in children’s upbringing, religion can be practiced outside the school or in there specific house of prayer. A high level of education is the first priority for any school.
And above all I hope it shows that it is right and correct to be able to say no to faith and it's ludicrous demands
There is no reason prayers can not be made later: "In Islamic tradition, Muslims perform five formal prayers at specified times each day. For people who miss a prayer for any reason, the tradition allows the prayer to be made up at a later time without it automatically counting as a sin that cannot be rectified."
The schedule and rules of Michaela School are given at the very beginning before the student even applies to go there. The student and parents are told there is no segregation for religion or race and student unity is their top value. If prayers at set times of the day are the top value of that family they do not have to go to that school. Why go to a school that is incompatible with your family’s values and then demand they change? That’s ridiculous.
If you want to get your pray mat out don’t make it a public debacle.
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Oh but it is the very epitome of public displays to show the totality of control
*spectacle*
The results speak for themselves. She should get an award for standing up and delivering education that gets amazing results and the parents who have their kids in that school should be thankful to have staff who give a toss about them. Death threats are for cowards and I am sorry this head teacher is going through such a horrific time when she is doing such a great job.
Death threats and the backing up of those threats are in the book they love
You Could Not Make the Bollock's Up 😷
Welcome to the land of freedom. What a joke
It’s a state school in a Christian country.
So and ….. there are churches synagogs in Muslim country’s what’s your point , and you have other country’s food in the Uk should everything not Christian be removed from the Uk 😮….
Who is paying for court case
Taxpayer again,legal aid!😮
I agree! It’s a school not a mosque
...and similarly, not a church ?
@@standardprocedure7017Thus the word Secular school which everyone signed up to?
These pupils should be grateful to be at such a fantastic well run school. Some children would feel so pleased to go to such an exemplary school
No school should provide any form of religious favouritism which this absolutely is.
As a teacher and having worked in schools where all kinds of nonsense is accepted, I find Katherine an inspiration.
School is not the place for praying, it's for learning the three rs!
Excuse me this is England!!!!!! I always treat the country I visit with respect as well as there culture.
Colonial and imperial Britain did not treat others around the planet with respect.
Oh dear the age old trope of Colonial Britain, well out of all the nations that have had a colonial past and there are loads I can tell you Britain was with all its faults one of the best@@standardprocedure7017. What about policing the world to stop slavery for a start. Sick of the people who have no consideration for the good done, probably living in this country and complaining about it wile reaping the rewards. If you don't like the country you can always go somewhere else.
She should be allowed to make decisions for her own school as the head- she’s proved she is an excellent head. Why do her choices have to involve the whole education system and other schools? Everyone is different- as we’re told- and all schools are different. As they should be.
The results speak for themselves.
She is a brave woman for standing her ground !! however i really fear for her safety !! muslims dont like to be told NO !
I used to work for a company in Bradford.
And there was a designated prayer room.
There was even official times for people of Muslim faith to be able to go and pray.
The issues that occured because of this were. Some members of staff that weren't of the Muslim faith. Took advantage of that, and had that paid for time out.
The other problem is the rest of other faiths weren't happy as they wouldn't have been able to down tools to go and pray.
The other annoying thing as well is the management were afraid to call out the none Muslims that were going to pray for obvious reasons!
Now that's in an adult environment.
Imagine trying to deal with the logistics of this in a school one!
Stand firm against these lunatics.
Your school,your rules...if they don't like it there are other schools that have lower standards.
Closing down faith schools that aren't a problem in order to prevent more issues like this strikes me as collective punishment. Muslims have been in the UK for decades but it's only relatively recently that 'prayer rooms' have been a feature in any school or workplace. If they managed before why has it become a problem now? No parent is forced to apply to Katherine's school, so why have the parents of this child created a problem for themselves, the school and the other pupils? If their faith is the most important thing then they should have opted for a school that meets those needs.
Worked at London Brick company,in the 70,'s,lots of Muslims.. no prayer time?
@@Michael-sq5gn Plenty don't now because of their jobs. What if prayer time coincided with an airline pilot taking off, landing or dealing with turbulence? What if a surgeon is operating or doctor/nurse is dealing with a critical condition? Firemen can't put down their hoses or policeman stop their pursuit of a criminal and start praying; bus and train drivers don't stop to pray - I could go on but you get the gist. People manage, and according to a few comments I've read made by Muslims, it's perfectly fine to skip a prayer time and add it on to a later one.
Because now that they've nestled and bred they are bold enough to fight
There are thousands of other schools they can choose from. We don't want our kids around cult members in their most impressionable years.
The principal is called "separation of church and state".
King Charles is literally the Head of the Church of England 🤦♂️ UK is not America.
@@thegoodpimpswhy does he love islam so much?
@@sbwlearning1372 I think any honest educated Christian would love Islam. Muhammad lived an ideal Christian life, and Muslims and Christians have worked together in harmony for a thousand 400 years.
Isabel Oakshott the voice of reason.
We argue about this same thing in the US constantly. You cannot allow one religion and not the others. Thus, NO sanctioned religion in public schools.
change schools lady
Her school, her rules.
Plenty of Muslim schools if parents would prefer their children to pray in lesson time.
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One reasonable accommodation at the time, it's the game played all over Europe. A Patient and methodical take over, the brotherhood textbook.
Katharine Birbalsingh's strict and well-founded rules + values make many people aware of their own inferiority. So the bitterness is understandable 😉and it explains the destructive reaction against the messenger of the inconvenient truth.
It’s never any other group demanding more is it
I agree with Katherine
Other countries don't put up with this nonsense so why should the UK🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Muslim prayer isn't a private affair; when it's done in groups outside of mosques there's always an element of highly visible public spectacle to it, or taking over and claiming a space (eg. the amount of space needed for it, compared to prayer in which people just stand or sit), a signalling to all non-Muslims that they are not part of the "in group" and to either submit to them or keep away.
Islamic prayer has curses against Jews and Christians.
As a believer in the Flying Spaghetti Monster do I get my own prayer room ?
No and certainly not extra cheese on Wednesdays after a full moon at school . At home yes, I am also a follower of the 'Spagetti Flying Monster' and his prophet 'pasta' cheese be unto him.
Why hasn’t our government made these school rules law? Simples!
Simple conclusion to this,”when in Rome “ which has never been implemented from the start!
She is a true hero by standing up to bad mannered people and their children who want to attend this school.More than anything she stands up for traditional British values, the same ones migrants want to benefit from.
I read of a 'tension monitoring officer' working in a borough recently. Doesn't sound to me like diversity is our strength.
We need more strong ladies like her ,in fact she has more balls than sunak and the whole of parliament put together,can we have her as PM
End of the World
Let's we all get behind the heroic Head teacher and support her.
I was loosely attached to CofE as a Brit born in England. In Oz, I had to look for a primary school (7&8yo) for my 2 boys after being disillusioned by a 'diverse' state school. The local Catholic school appeared to hold the community values I upheld. On pre-admittance interview, they were kind enough to accept my boys if they followed all the requisite religious practices of the school. Those religious practices were fundamentality the moral social & spiritual guidance that I wished to attain for my children. Of course I agreed. Both boys were so much happier there than they'd ever been. They decided not to become Catholic but took away with them an understanding & confidence of community values (instead of the dog eat dog 'diverse' state school attitudes that largely banned Christian customs in order not to offend).
My boys are now in their 40's & everyone that knows them still appreciate their honesty & humanity,
JJ Anisiobi as always totally out of his depth in intelligent debate. Not his fault. At least we were spared the inane laughter.
Is it cuz he’s black, Townay? 😳
@@titteryenot4524 your comment sound a bit racist sir / madame
JJ is a box ticker.
Typically Black.....No straight talk.
Always looking for ways out.
Does anyone know if there is a petition to sign to back Katherine Birbalsingh and get it debated in parliament?
The British Government need to take her approach. It's a school. Religion stays out. Utterly sick of these people threatening violence, to get there own way. She is NOT racist, she is right. A pupil is taking her to court. No her parents are and out to get her. She is some we need in government to stop this nonsense. They are not to take over. This is how they do.
Every school should ban prays and all work places should ban prays and pray room.
School is for learning.
Religion and state need to be kept separate.
France has got it right, keep religion out of school altogether.
Great point. It’s a school not a mosque!
School is for educating not religious brainwashing.
Does that also apply to CoE schools ? What about Eton ?
@@standardprocedure7017 There are C of E schools, Roman Catholic schools, Jewish schools, Islamic schools etc and secular schools and all must teach general education. Only a small part of that education should be based on Religion.
I stand with Katherine, this has to stop we are a Christian country and schools are there to teach not indoctrinate children with ideology. This case will go nowhere
Don't be so sure . King Charles loves islam . They intimidated cinema staff and got a movie pulled in a secular state and nothing happened. No matter what outrage they cause nothing happens.
Pupils at Eton have three prayer sessions a day, before breakfast, teatime and before bed.
The last time I checked we had freedom of religion in this country.
The school is a Secular school,every parent signs up to the rules! So no argument really?
And freedom to disbelieve religion.
No to the caliphate no to stealth blasphemy laws
You welcomed them in with naive open arms = too late realising it was the wrong thing to do now.
Good luck to her kids are there to learn not pray all day if the Muslims don’t like what she does
then take them out and put them into a Muslim school Simple
But then there would be no spreading of the caliphate