The Virtue of Traditional Education | Katharine Birbalsingh
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
- John is joined in conversation by Katharine Birbalsingh, described by many as ‘Britain’s’ strictest teacher’. Birbalsingh’s passion for high-quality education provides for insightful and challenging perspectives on the state of our current school system and what can be done to improve it.
Katharine Birbalsingh is the Chair of the Social Mobility Commission and Headmistress and co-founder of Michaela Community School in Wembley, London. Michaela is known for its tough-love behaviour systems, knowledge curriculum and teaching of kindness and gratitude.
In 2017, OFSTED graded the school as “Outstanding” in every category.
Katharine studied Philosophy & Modern Languages at The University of Oxford and has always taught in inner London.
She has made numerous appearances on television and radio and has written for several UK publications. Katharine has written two books and edited a third, plus a fourth called The Power of Culture which was published in June 2020.
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0:00 Introduction
0:44 Introducing Katharine Birbalsingh
1:58 How Katharine got began teaching
3:52 The culture of excuses in UK education
12:24 Starting Michaela Community School
15:26 The dangers of progressivist education
20:57 Have you silenced the critics?
24:50 The strong academic results of Michaela
28:10 Expectations on disadvantaged children
30:44 Value of teaching the western cannon
41:26 Is an obsession with racism hurting our children?
44:01 Effect of technology on children
45:50 Is funding the answer to good schools?
49:30 Importance of home life for education
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Katharine Birbalsingh:
/ miss_snuffy
"The soft racism of low expectations " Exactly right
Only there is nothing soft about it... unless you mean soft like quicksand & tar pits, forever trapping its victims.
Katherine Birbalsingh is practical, not ideological. She is on the 'coal face' of the 'culture wars'. She is objective, impartial and eloquent. A National Treasure.
I am 66 and enthused by this woman, how could a child not also be enthused by her.
why do we have to go searching for this person on the internet? Why is she not featured on mainstream TV? She has achieved something remarkable.
She has been on GB News and Talk TV. The only UK news shows doing their job these days.
In the USA the teacher's union would demonize this woman. It challenges their power.
Because sheep are run by the status quo state and are fools that cannot think for themselves.
Pick yourself up!
@@Blackgrass1 I agree with your attitude 100%, I'm observing her being intentionally ignored and I believe this to be very revealing.
What a state my beloved Britain is in where people dare not show open support for this remarkable teacher
Who excludes a student for practicing their religion seriously the teacher is a biggot
@YusufG
And what wonderful achievements have you accomplished in your life? Judging by your grammar and spelling, your achievements, if any, definitely weren’t in education!
@@YusufG121healthy criticism is fair. I wonder if your critical thinking is adequate to judge information honestly though? Could you name any positive contributions you’ve given to society?
@@YusufG121 so that is your take out? You may have missed the point.
@@YusufG121
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A great woman, we are so lucky to have her
How fortunate the UK and the community is to have this super talented education professional working for them.
Where are they bar this teacher and a few others?
I had the pleasure of seeing this lady and her wonderful teachers on an ITV programme that was aired late on a Sunday evening - what Katherine is doing is nothing short of fantastic. To achieve zero bullying the kids move from lesson to lesson without speaking - just this small thing has had an amazingly positive impact on the kids wellbeing. The teachers lead the lessons, the parents are involved ( they have to be ) and her results tell their own story. My goodness, if we had just one school like Katherine’s in every town and city what a force to be reckoned with we’d become!
We have some. In my state (very liberal) we have seen a lot of parents move their kids to private schools or homeschooling. The public school districts have lost thousands of students. We have a few charter schools but of course the public school establishment does their best to imped their growth.
Thank you Katharine, for doing what is right. I can see it is in you.
A great interview of a brilliant person. She has the right attitude and the energy and drive to make a difference. If only our politically driven education establishment would come out of their cloud and row in the same direction. Katherine Birbalsingh is a hero.
Better than that, she's a heroine_she's certainly my heroine.
We need moreKatharines in our society.
The intro clip says it all. This woman knows what being Strong means!
Eight minutes in and I already love this woman. More educators like her is the right way forward.
As an American teenager in the 1960s, I attended school for 2 years in a small outback Australian town, followed by 1 year in California, 3 years in England and a final year in Scotland before returning to the US at age 19 to complete my college education. Since then as a parent and grandparent, I have witnessed progressive changes in the U.S. education system. Looking back I realize now that I had gained a perspective on school systems unmatched by few, if any, graduates from today's teacher colleges. In Australia in particular, I saw very strict but fair teachers insure that every child attained satisfactory performance, even if it meant using break times and after school time to do so. This is not to say that performance differences weren't recognized. Every quarter seating arrangements changed based on scholastic rank with the lowest in the left front seat and the highest in the right rearmost seat. Discipline works. Repetition works. Every time. Every student.
The teachers colleges are a mess. The entrance and exit standards were lowered some time ago. The National Association of Scholars has published on this topic.
Unfortunately this is no longer the case in Australia 😔 Hopefully change is coming…
The cane was our deterent even at 11 in Sydney ,but we had many races and l learnt in 70 years she is right.
Thanks for the privilege of listening to Ms Birbalsingh. At 81 she has brought me back to my mother's teachings and 1950s school days attending Instituto Nacional Chile. By the by, at ten mom gave me the poem "IF" which still is on the wall trying to keep me out of trouble! Kind regards from Comox Valley, somewhere in Canada.
A woman who loves children enough to say No !
A woman who knows that it takes time for a child to learn to cross the road !
I could go on .......
KB is an absolute hero, a woman of astonishing bravery and integrity. Her methods should be implemented across the whole of the education system, but the authorities and the progressives will never allow that. Thus will millions upon millions of children be betrayed..
Thank you for introducing us to this inspiring woman! I'm a veteran homeschooler and I find myself completely agreeing with everything she's about.
I'm so bloody glad you've interviewed her 🙏🙏
So thrilled to hear her straight talk about progressive educatio.n. She's a fireball much needed! Thank you for this great interview.
Excellent interview! Love that lady. Speaks so clearly and loudly (unusual for John Anderson's podcasts ;), in every sense of the words, hope her school continues to thrive and inspire others
Katherine Birbalsingh must absolutely stand up to become the new Secretary of State for Education for the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Katherine Birbalsingh stands up for what is right🤲🤝👏👏👏👏👏👏
Katherine Birbalsingh is awesome. May she inspire many others to continue on in the same way. Pass it forward!!
This was such a fantastic interview. Thank you so much for giving us all this great gift ... Thank you to both of you.
As with any person there are (rare) occasions where this wonderful woman might say some small thing that I will demur on but she is a shining force of nature that we need thousands more of!
The incredible wisdom of this inspiring lady is just jaw dropping. I could listen to her for hours. Chapeau bas :)
Thank you so much for the great interview. Miss Birbalsingh is a wonderful exemplar of what can be achieved in a poor area with the right school culture. I was a governor of a primary school in a poor part of Essex, where the children were not helped by the lack of ambition of the staff, governors and some parents. I hold myself partially responsible for not tackling the soft attitudes of the school community.
How do we prevent future generations of children in our great country from being let down by ‘progressive teaching methods; how do we clear out these attitudes and methods from our teaching training establishments?
"Value of teaching the western cannon."
I didn't quite expect this, but I like it. Artillery school for everyone!
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Thank you so much, Mr. Anderson, for interviewing the brilliant and inspirational Mrs. Birbalsingh
Love her intro !
Now for the conversation.
A wonderful discussion. My husband and I are expecting our first and already thinking about schools. Our country (New Zealand) is becoming more and more useless when it comes to education (among other things). This interview was very helpful for assessing schools and teachers in terms of functionality. Thank you!
Another hero added to my list, this lady is up there with Jordon Peterson.
Absolutely,❤
Strict, yet wise, brave and intelligent: this is exactly what we need in every teacher🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
I have two lady friends in their 70's who are from Chile. In Chile at the time the students where all taught proper table manners. When I was 9 my grandma taught me continental table etiquette before taking me to Spain in 1969. I thought I was just too cool. Imagine how anyone educated in Chile at this time could sit at any table anywhere with anyone and be comfortable if they so desired. THAT is social mobility! Now we have not taught drivers Ed in high school for years and it shows! I drive a lot on freeways and rural roads and I find areas with mostly early 20s-early 40s on the roads are what used to be the exception, but now the rule. Very aggressive, driving large, powerful trucks and SUVs. First it was the soccer mom's who were the only ones on the road ( I'm being sarcastic), then 10 years later it's young women, and men in trucks! WTH? Men in trucks were the courteous and mindful drivers a few decades ago. Now they are nuts. Bring back some of the essential courses and forget the crazy stuff. School is no longer socialization, more like antisocialization. Children need stability and they just don't have it now.
What a wonderful philosophy and attitude toward education. Wish my kids could experience such an education.
Those kids are lucky to have this woman and the teachers under her.
When Katherine is waxing lyrical about English poetry and literary heritage, look at John's eyes: he is welling up. Beautiful.
I love the Traditional way (myself schooled by catholic church led secular management where all were welcome)
and am equally fascinated by progressive ways as well.
Now, I wonder what would Sir Ken Robinson's conversation with BirbalSingh look like....🤔
Brilliant
Too few views and likes for such a fantastic interview . Katherine Birbalsingh is a very fascinating lady . We need a KB in every school here in AU .
Katherine's voice is a delight to be heard.
Very interesting. I'm from Hungary. Our schools are very conservative. But I think in a different way. In state schools children hate everything they have to learn and become like zombies,because they are not tought to think independently and they are just required to sit and shut up all day. Teachers don't respect them and they don't respect teachers. Of course there are exceptions. I was teaching in an "alternative" school ( which is considered the liberal school here) and it was the opposite. Children were happy,there was no issue with discipline, there was community, no bullying. Very much like what she's talking about.
I had early learning disabilities due to complications at birth, but early learning disabilities doesn't mean lifetime learning disabilities. I was held same standard as everyone else and wouldn't want it any other way. My best teachers were those that inspired with the desire to learn. I failed the 2nd grade but had the opportunity to try again and passed. I wasn't able to complete high school when family abandoned me, so I took the GED and passed. My math and science were high enough to offset my poor vocabulary. After I carried around a pocket dictionary, began reading more, and have done a daily newspaper crossword puzzle almost daily. Last vocabulary test I was told it ranked among the best. I agree with this lady. I am 70 years old and still learning. Schools need to get back to the basics.
Same ,l,m 70 ,loving the podcasts learning. So many spoilt individuals l cringe.
I came to know her because some controversy happening at her school. but she is doing very great things to society. don't let her loose for vocal minorities. be with her support her. Thanks to this interviewer bringing her into light.
Mothers have the most important role. Teachers are second to that.
This woman is a hero as far as I'm concerned. It's still hard to fathom the level of hate she receives for helping the next generation flourish. Her reward will come soon. All the investment she is making in these children will not go unnoticed or unappreciated, especially by the children themselves and their families (present and future). And there will be a reversion back to the traditional education model when enough lives fall by the wayside of progressive education (i.e. narcissistic compassion).
A book I ordered just came in the mail titled, No Excuses. Birbalsingh is echoing this sentiment exactly! Your voice, and I feel many others are now speaking out, is so refreshing to hear. (I am a retired music teacher who knows that good lesson planning and teacher driven student engagement is the only way children want to return to class.)
This woman is amazing! And ever more so is that is she said make a perfect sense! 😊
I'm a 31 year old American woman who doesn't intend to have kids and I just love this woman!! 😊
Thank you. I see this all the time, when my students fail to meet my standards, then I am the one who is asked to "adjust" my standards so that my students pass. When I refused, it was I who was "not a team player," being "unfair", not being "accommodating."
This was a very, very good interview.
Great work as usual John and thank you for your content. Katharine is a brilliant educator and a wonderful, kind and compassionate person God Bless her for taking care of England's children.
@8:30 that African American who's weird Anderson quote was Thomas Sowell.
Brilliant conservative economist from Stanford University
Thank you John, brilliant interview with this inspirational teacher.
Superb interview. If only there were more teachers like Katherine.
Why isn't this woman our Prime Minister? My God - She'd Be Wonderful!
Great interview and guest.
Brilliant bits about parents teaching their children!!
30 seconds in and already hit the like button. She is the best!
This is how to do teacher college. Send would be teachers to apprentice at great schools with great teachers.
Beautiful: "soft racism of low expectations", "their compassion kills the child" BTW I have taught in ca. 100 schools in London as a supply, I don't remember a single one with a teacher-focused desk arrangement.
I appreciate these conversations. Such clarity. Courage. Gives me hope
Katharine is an amazing lady
Always interesting and informative to listen to her
Teaching is a vocation imo. Great interview.👍❤️
I quit teaching but i would love it to see this school.
Oh it is so inspiring to hear such positivity! I taught my eldest child to read well before she was at school. She was hungry for it and almost taught herself as far as starting and nudging me. I had plenty of time then so sadly, her following two siblings didn't get quite as good an introduction. But the truth of Katharine's philosophy is absolutely spot on. That was so encouraging. Thank you.
This woman is the bomb! Seriously.
Brilliant! How clarity washes away all he confusion ! Who would take this school, to high court? In whose interest are politicians working? Hurrah to this lady and thank you for this interview..
She is a modern version of the Marva Collins Story and the experiences that inspired Maria Montessori and the principles showcased in the movie Stand by Me. Why does this basic lesson need to be rediscovered every generation?
Why does what does not work keep overpowering proven methods?
Friendly One. Good question, Bcs humans have short memories. That’s why the Birbalsinghs, Montessori, and educators of such fine calibre are given to us in every generation.
Don't you dare compare her to Maria Montessori!
@@IlariaLaMurashe-her I said she had similar experience to those that inspired Montessori -- she obviously has less scientific background than the famed educator, and therefore less understanding of her discoveries. But hopefully, that will come.
What a hurricane of reason, common sense, vision and wonder. The more educationalists who hear and hopefully will be inspired by this interview, the better our society will be. It is what we should be but what we are alas, mostly not.
The Charter School movement in the US continues to grow rapidly despite all the headwinds, or maybe BECAUSE of the headwinds. In Colorado, most Charter Schools are parent-run, decoupled from the massive (and distant) teacher unions. In “retirement” I taught for awhile in one, was hard work , but it was very very good for the kids. Average of +$100,000 in scholarships. And it IS NOT a rich-kids school. Lots of below poverty line, lots of “minorities.”
Wow, what a great lady. Thank you for this interview. I found her take on education enlightening and inspiring. ❤
Very interesting discussion. Keep these interviews coming.
Well, that was extremely impressive. I feel uplifted and frustrated at the same time. Cloning sounds good about now because she is a rare gem.
I wish this Lady was in the government!
I was a teacher- she is excellent.
Amazing! I was so touched by "home life on education" as this is exactly what I did for my children when they were little... As nowadays you can hear all that "let them find themselves..." trying to make a social experiment on our children...
Love this lady! What an inspiration!
Most comforting words I have heard in so long!!!
Very insightful conversation.
Further to Ms. Birbalsingh's comment on 5 year old's knowing how to read, it can be done. With the book "Teach Your Child to Read in 100 Easy Lessons" I taught my two kids to read, with no prior teaching experience. Written in the 1980's by PhD's and tested. #1 book in Amazon "Parent School Age-Children". The book itself says it is for some 3 year old's, most 4 year old's or all 5 year old's.
Best thing ever. Schools like these are our only hope. Forcing parents to send their children to failing government schools is the most significant kind of systemic racism.
Thanks so much for this, and let's have many more, please. I presume Professor James Tooley and the University of Buckingham are known to Ms BirbalSingh also?
I agree with her I have been a teacher for over a decade, and I think she speaks so much truth
Her wisdom applies to a society as a whole.
I wish i had a teacher like this!
I wish my kids were in her school. Public education system is Western Australia is a failure 🤦🏻♀️ she is spot on
Excellent.
I find her very attractive. Her views and her amazing hair are just 👌🏼👌🏼
The darker the cultures get, the brighter the lights shine.
Strict Teacher, are you kidding ? Ms. Birbalsingh is like Mother Teresa compared to the cruelty, I experienced in the Canadian School system. But another great one John..
Fabulous!
Locus of control is an attitude about whether you are more on control of your life versus outside factors. She teaches that they have a lot to say about their own lives. Which is true. I have taught in University in Los Angeles. I’ve had some minority students who are highly successful in life and business who would regularly talk about oppression.
child-centered learning is the idea of knowledge without knowledge.
I was explaining to some of my white friends exactly what Catherine has said before: That so many Black people, especially Caribbean and African people, and ethnic folks around the world have "small 'c' conservative" values. I'm an American with Trinidadian family and when my friends make statements like "grades are racist," it's so counter to my culture and frankly really offensive. She's not here saying anything that should be controversial. Teach the children. Respect the children. Teach the children respect.
You are a light in this otherwise dark world
I regret I have only one thumbs-up to give to this video.
With birbal in her name, she has to be the most intelligent person....👍👍👍
Wonderful teacher
When Katherine said “squashed by a car” it reminded me of London in the 70s. We used to say squashed by a car 😹😹😹😹😹
The mere fact that she refers to her colleagues as 'my teachers' more than summarises one of the key problems faced by teachers in public schools. The failure of those in management to accept that they are not owners and that they too are employees of the state. Often, younger, better educated and more well-rounded teachers are put off by territorial 'jobsworths', who are characterised by an incessant desire to obtain a managerial position. Perhaps these career-driven individuals would do better taking a few risks in the private sector business environment.