"Wow!! The best video on you tube.....what a lovely Lady.....but she is so right....what she is doing now was normal in all my education at Infant,Primary,Junior and Secondary School. All local to where I lived....no cars needed!!?
As an older person I look around waiting for the adults to step up and sort out some of the awful things going on at the moment. I now realise that in public life there are actually very few adults. They have never been taught what it means to be an adult probably due to progressive education and laissez faire parents.
Oh Yes! Des my heart good to hear this great lady unashamedly promote how her school operates. And why should she be ashamed? By all reports Michaela is doing wonderful service for it's pupils.
Wouldn’t it be wonderful? Create more prisons, then I can have a bigger garden for my vegetables and a large orchard. In place of that pesky council estate
What talents Birbalsingh combines. Not only the insight to see the problem, not only the courage to put her convictions into practice, but, as this lecture shows, she is also one of the best orators around. Thank you, Katherine.
Looking back, (I am in my 70's) I realise that I am an idle person and that I am not the only one. If I have achieved anything it is because mature, sensible adults, many of them teachers, encouraged, poked, prodded and, in reality, forced me to do, learn and become competent in things that I really could not be bothered with. They pushed me up and I am so grateful that they did!
Very true. My best teachers were ones who were fair but demanded the most. HS chemistry teacher let you bring any notes or books to tests but it did not matter. If you had not studied you did poorly. My HS biology teacher had us do things that College grad students would do. One day she came in a bit chocked up. She had Time magazine with a man on the cover for the Nobel prize in medicine. She said she taught him at one point. Had a HS history of Western Philosophy teacher who was tough but one of my best teachers.
She is so right and I admire her for having the guts to speak out about what is happening in our schools. She has a lot of courage to go against the norm in education now which destroys children's futures.
I start watching everything I can on youtube with Mrs. Katharine Birbalsingh because I saw her on Dr. Jordan Peterson channel. I am so grateful for her work and efforts. Thank you.
What a fantastic lecture from a truly amazing woman. I can only hope that this philosophy becomes far more prominent throughout society and truly rue the fact that there was nothing more available to my son than his bang average progressive local secondary school. Despite it's miss-credited 'good reputation' i truly fear for his educational environment, with the obvious lack of discipline and control of its many unruly pupils being at the absolute core of it's inability to offer students the education they deserve. Not to mention a far more worthy return for our taxes.
“Learn the rules like a pro, so you can break them like an artist.” ― Pablo Picasso Give the kids knowledge and structure so they can be creative. (Paraphrasing Katherine Birlbalsingh) She’s right.
Sir Roger Scruton was a historian Miss Birbelsingah. Who was also concerned about the education of children. He was just a name which rang out loud. Echoing through this country. Legend. How capable do you want children to be? They will end up lonely focusing only on the possibilities of their abilities. Powerful and a fighter.
"The only way to be creative about something is to know a lot about it" - THIS. This is the most important point everyone seems to be forgetting these days. You can't be a creative critical thinker if you're ignorant. If you're firm in your beliefs while being ignorant, you are not a critical thinker. You are indoctrinated.
The only way I think the grammar system can't be gamed by wealthier families would be to have someone from the grammar schools visit the primary school and sit in on a few lessons. From that they'll be able to gauge which kids have a higher natural aptitude for learning. Shouldn't be the sole basis but it can certain be used in conjunction with an exam to get a more balanced result.
This wonderful teacher ,Headmistress should be the Education Secretary of the Country. Education should not be taken for granted. Look what has happened to Scotland, we always knew they had a very high standard of education. In the last ten years they have fallen so far down the league tables. All of England should go back to Traditional schools and discipline. I have been a teacher of 30 years and this is the only way to prepare children for life!
The European Enlightenment saddled us with a deformed view of freedom that persists as the ideological foundation of progressivism, which reduces freedom to mere autonomy.
In my experience, as a teacher for 40 years, a school is only as good as its teachers, combined with competent leadership. Without that, there is chaos. I was fortunate enough to have had a wonderful career, in my four schools, over the forty years. Three of those schools were in rural, community-based schools. The other was a city community school. Parents’ input is vital.
How does the government ensure that this style of teaching is promulgated in and by the teaching training establishments? As a former governor of a primary school in a deprived area, I saw the result of progressivism and the poor outcomes, not just academic outcomes, but in wider life skills.
By referencing this on Linkedin I'm already getting a small does of the same fascicle (not quite ad hominem but close) that Katherine get 10000x more of every single day. It's lazy to simply say its a 'Dickensian experiment' which is so few people take the harder route of having a well considered opposition to Micheala's ethos. The real issue is how can we help Katherine she scale and deliver her ambition for children beyond Micheala?
I would love to see her engage with progressive American teachers of various races and backgrounds. The audience here does not look very diverse from the camera angles. Her ideas need to reach the leaders of Title I schools here in the states.
51:07 *humans are inherently good* - assumptions on human nature! Children love playing and helping each other! Especially their basic psychology needs are met ☺
10:52 *doing your homework gets you a merit, but not doing your homework get you a detention* - Is the goal just to get a merit/avoid a detention? Or has 'homework' got anything to do with learning?
59:39 *Freedom comes from self control* - I think you're definition of freedom is different to everyone else's Katherine... what are you trying to say exactly?
Everybody’s definition of freedom is different from everybody else’s. You can swallow a dictionary of definitions (perhaps you have) and you will be no wiser. A word receives its meaning from its context.
Good talk, a bit more pugnacious than you'd expect given the context (memorial lecture for a heterodox but soft-spoken philosopher) although I felt a lot of it was preaching to the converted. I think she was at her most persuasive when referring to how little kids know coming from Primary school - not knowing where Paris is and all that. More could have been made of that, I think, to really make the progressives who have been in charge of UK education for the past few decades squirm.
43:36 *schools are meant to education the populace* - mmm, pretty sure Nick Gibb said schools were there to support the economy and create compliant citizens...
I'm one of the people she talks about. Old school left, small 'c' conservative and appalled by all of it, to the extent that I no longer vote or identify with any of the parties. They appal me equally, albeit for separate reasons.
51:35 *you end up having no teacher, no father, no mother* - Sooooo, if my father becomes my friend... he's... no longer my father?! I'm not sure I understand your logic! False dichotomy #5
52:01 *I have been good to this child because I haven’t told them that the grammar in this sentence is dreadful* - Um? Why derogate them? Can you... just help them use the right grammar?
48:40 *When you want to help people, you tell them the truth. When you want to help yourself, you tell them what they want to hear* - just giving you the truth 🤣🤣
I've always held the belief that one should listen to the contents of ones argument and not be swayed so much by the delivery - but this was a difficult listen. It was a seemingly quite aggressive delivery that seemed incongruent with her message. Only a shame in so far it might put those off who are teetering on the edge of understanding and holding 'small c' conservative values with regard to education.
10:21 *crying out for order and structure* - implying order and structure are incompatible with a ‘relational’ approach (see Devon County Council, Nottinghamshire County Council, Brighton and Hove City Council guidance). False dichotomy #3
I have great respect for the woman, but the constant insistence on the "small c" sounds very weird. We get it. Make point in the beginning and move on. Conservatism isn't a tory property.
16:33 *we prefer to teach a man how to fish rather than give a man a fish* - is that why you micromanage children's lives through external regulation and introjection?
9:28 *parents and teachers shouldn’t be friends with the children […] inspire, respect, and admiration, yes, but not friendship, that is to muddy the lines of respect between child and adult* - False dichotomy #2
I studied A Level English (86-88) and not one black author or poet. I was happy to study Shakespeare, Dickens and Keats. You present black issues unreasonably while normalising the status quo. At least be fair on this.
9:15 *you can’t possibly be a very good teacher* - Well, according to Katherine, it's IMPOSSIBLE to teach well, and learn something from your students. False Dichotomy #1
8:31 *Teacher should be the authority in the classroom leading form the front* - Yes, like robot encyclopaedia vomiting information for children to believe and regurgitate.
You're right about so much but you need to talk TO people not AT them. You're not right about EVERYTHING. People switch off because they want not be themselves NOT what YOU want them to be
What an awful self-promoting grifter. No substance behind anything she says, just empty platitudes to appeal to little Britain. She will go far, unfortunately.
"Wow!! The best video on you tube.....what a lovely Lady.....but she is so right....what she is doing now was normal in all my education at Infant,Primary,Junior and Secondary School. All local to where I lived....no cars needed!!?
Surely, this lecture should be mandatory viewing for every school pupil & teacher in the UK. It’s inspiring!
As an older person I look around waiting for the adults to step up and sort out some of the awful things going on at the moment. I now realise that in public life there are actually very few adults. They have never been taught what it means to be an adult probably due to progressive education and laissez faire parents.
A beautiful courageous woman with the courage of her convictions! We need more people like this…
Oh Yes! Des my heart good to hear this great lady unashamedly promote how her school operates. And why should she be ashamed? By all reports Michaela is doing wonderful service for it's pupils.
Katharine Birbalsingh. Good God, what that woman could do in charge of this country! I stood up to applaud, at my kitchen table.
Wouldn’t it be wonderful? Create more prisons, then I can have a bigger garden for my vegetables and a large orchard. In place of that pesky council estate
What talents Birbalsingh combines. Not only the insight to see the problem, not only the courage to put her convictions into practice, but, as this lecture shows, she is also one of the best orators around. Thank you, Katherine.
Whatcha think, Mr. John Dewey?
If only more people were like Katherine. We’d all be telling each other what to do! Hoorah!
That is one of the best videos I have seen in many, many years. Katherine is great. We need more people like her.
Looking back, (I am in my 70's) I realise that I am an idle person and that I am not the only one. If I have achieved anything it is because mature, sensible adults, many of them teachers, encouraged, poked, prodded and, in reality, forced me to do, learn and become competent in things that I really could not be bothered with. They pushed me up and I am so grateful that they did!
Very true. My best teachers were ones who were fair but demanded the most. HS chemistry teacher let you bring any notes or books to tests but it did not matter. If you had not studied you did poorly. My HS biology teacher had us do things that College grad students would do. One day she came in a bit chocked up. She had Time magazine with a man on the cover for the Nobel prize in medicine. She said she taught him at one point. Had a HS history of Western Philosophy teacher who was tough but one of my best teachers.
I loved every word.
If only we had her as the education secretary
WOW! I didn't think I could admire Mrs. Birbalsingh more, and yet... what a rush, what a formidable orator!
She is so right and I admire her for having the guts to speak out about what is happening in our schools. She has a lot of courage to go against the norm in education now which destroys children's futures.
I start watching everything I can on youtube with Mrs. Katharine Birbalsingh because I saw her on Dr. Jordan Peterson channel.
I am so grateful for her work and efforts.
Thank you.
Amazing … have never heard of this school
So impressed with this whole talk 🌷🌷🌷
What a fantastic lecture from a truly amazing woman. I can only hope that this philosophy becomes far more prominent throughout society and truly rue the fact that there was nothing more available to my son than his bang average progressive local secondary school. Despite it's miss-credited 'good reputation' i truly fear for his educational environment, with the obvious lack of discipline and control of its many unruly pupils being at the absolute core of it's inability to offer students the education they deserve. Not to mention a far more worthy return for our taxes.
How refreshing to hear some common sense about education.
“Learn the rules like a pro, so you can break them like an artist.”
― Pablo Picasso
Give the kids knowledge and structure so they can be creative. (Paraphrasing Katherine Birlbalsingh) She’s right.
Brilliant. This could save our country.
If you paid any attention to what Peter has said repeatedly, you would realise that there is no saving us now.
@@alanwilliams3677 Like the Ancient Mariner, we are weighed down by an Albatross.
She is AMAZING!!!!
Sir Roger Scruton was a historian Miss Birbelsingah. Who was also concerned about the education of children. He was just a name which rang out loud. Echoing through this country. Legend. How capable do you want children to be? They will end up lonely focusing only on the possibilities of their abilities. Powerful and a fighter.
outstanding!
"The only way to be creative about something is to know a lot about it" - THIS.
This is the most important point everyone seems to be forgetting these days.
You can't be a creative critical thinker if you're ignorant. If you're firm in your beliefs while being ignorant, you are not a critical thinker. You are indoctrinated.
What a magnificent and inspiring lecture. Brilliant!
Insightful and engaging.
What a formidable woman
I love Katharine Birbalisingh! Full stop!
Guts, drive, focus, intelectual honesty: keep up the good work, Katharine!
Powerful.
I fully agree with the point about 11+ exams. Grammar schools used to give a leg up, now it is not the case.
The only way I think the grammar system can't be gamed by wealthier families would be to have someone from the grammar schools visit the primary school and sit in on a few lessons. From that they'll be able to gauge which kids have a higher natural aptitude for learning. Shouldn't be the sole basis but it can certain be used in conjunction with an exam to get a more balanced result.
It is good to know there are educators like you
This wonderful teacher ,Headmistress should be the Education Secretary of the Country. Education should not be taken for granted. Look what has happened to Scotland, we always knew they had a very high standard of education. In the last ten years they have fallen so far down the league tables. All of England should go back to Traditional schools and discipline. I have been a teacher of 30 years and this is the only way to prepare children for life!
The European Enlightenment saddled us with a deformed view of freedom that persists as the ideological foundation of progressivism, which reduces freedom to mere autonomy.
In my experience, as a teacher for 40 years, a school is only as good as its teachers, combined with competent leadership. Without that, there is chaos. I was fortunate enough to have had a wonderful career, in my four schools, over the forty years. Three of those schools were in rural, community-based schools. The other was a city community school. Parents’ input is vital.
Brilliant
How does the government ensure that this style of teaching is promulgated in and by the teaching training establishments? As a former governor of a primary school in a deprived area, I saw the result of progressivism and the poor outcomes, not just academic outcomes, but in wider life skills.
By referencing this on Linkedin I'm already getting a small does of the same fascicle (not quite ad hominem but close) that Katherine get 10000x more of every single day. It's lazy to simply say its a 'Dickensian experiment' which is so few people take the harder route of having a well considered opposition to Micheala's ethos. The real issue is how can we help Katherine she scale and deliver her ambition for children beyond Micheala?
Why are you writing gibberish?
Sadly, a committment to "equity" (engineering an artificial equality of outcomes) is supplanting a commitment to equality of opportunity.
Excellent stuff as ever from Katharine Birbalsingh. But please talk about the creative arts and musical activities at Michaela in some detail.
I would love to see her engage with progressive American teachers of various races and backgrounds. The audience here does not look very diverse from the camera angles. Her ideas need to reach the leaders of Title I schools here in the states.
12:12 *surrounded by high expectation* - don't forget the punishments, rewards, and conditional regard.
We need a person like her in every western country to fight this nonsense extreme liberalism.
Are there any such schools anywhere else in the UK or US?
love her
51:07 *humans are inherently good* - assumptions on human nature! Children love playing and helping each other! Especially their basic psychology needs are met ☺
The problems are real but your solutions are in question.
Then why does her school get such excellent results with a disadvantaged intake?
Spoken like a true leftest who ignores the results! 😂😂😂🙄
Yes, they are currently in question in her school: answers are emerging.
10:52 *doing your homework gets you a merit, but not doing your homework get you a detention* - Is the goal just to get a merit/avoid a detention? Or has 'homework' got anything to do with learning?
I THINK IT DOES . IT IS.PART OF DISCIPLENE OF CARRYING A TASK GIVEN TO YOU.
The teacher’s goal is to get the kids to do their homework. Your speculation about their motivation doesn’t matter.
51:42 *who want to see themselves as being kind, is a forsaken child* - False dichotomy #4
There no dichotomies in reality, in experience. They exist only in the deepest ruts of Theory.
Eyes watering now...
It’s simple emotional maturity; understanding the developmental difference between kids and adults; always assuming teachers are adult!
59:39 *Freedom comes from self control* - I think you're definition of freedom is different to everyone else's Katherine... what are you trying to say exactly?
Everybody’s definition of freedom is different from everybody else’s. You can swallow a dictionary of definitions (perhaps you have) and you will be no wiser. A word receives its meaning from its context.
It seems like someone just started their summer holiday….
Good talk, a bit more pugnacious than you'd expect given the context (memorial lecture for a heterodox but soft-spoken philosopher) although I felt a lot of it was preaching to the converted. I think she was at her most persuasive when referring to how little kids know coming from Primary school - not knowing where Paris is and all that. More could have been made of that, I think, to really make the progressives who have been in charge of UK education for the past few decades squirm.
1:08:00 *these values are narrated* - doesn’t sound at all like brainwashing.
“Brainwashing” is not well defined. In fact, it means all things to all men. Much like “education”.
Katherine has sussed it out!👍😊❤
There is no messing about with Katherine, is there... 😂
43:36 *schools are meant to education the populace* - mmm, pretty sure Nick Gibb said schools were there to support the economy and create compliant citizens...
Is education vs economics a false dichotomy?
This lady needs to head the department of education
I'm one of the people she talks about. Old school left, small 'c' conservative and appalled by all of it, to the extent that I no longer vote or identify with any of the parties. They appal me equally, albeit for separate reasons.
The parties have absolutely become parasites.
Katharine The Great
51:35 *you end up having no teacher, no father, no mother* - Sooooo, if my father becomes my friend... he's... no longer my father?! I'm not sure I understand your logic! False dichotomy #5
52:01 *I have been good to this child because I haven’t told them that the grammar in this sentence is dreadful* - Um? Why derogate them? Can you... just help them use the right grammar?
Do you think she Cruelly corrects children. I think she just corrects them, albeit controversially.
I think you introject too much.
48:40 *When you want to help people, you tell them the truth. When you want to help yourself, you tell them what they want to hear* - just giving you the truth 🤣🤣
I think she’s quoting Thomas Sowell. I’ve no idea what your point is.
Dame Helena Morrissey is rather fascinating ... 9 kids!!
Had to do a double take.... wondering if she meant "mother of a 9 year old"
Well, if you are going to do a job, do it well! If you are good at it, keep doing it!
money helps facilitate a lot
She’s looking darn good on it(!)
Yes that got my eyes to pop in this day and age :)
1:26:49 *you want to impress your teachers* - good old introjection
Scary word for ‘learning’? Ask yourself what is not introjected ? Perhaps Kant’s “Das Ding an such”. But that’s a very rarified thing.
this is the most energetic women I've ever seen, her husband must be a broken man.
I love the Hitchens story
Wow, just wow!!!
I've always held the belief that one should listen to the contents of ones argument and not be swayed so much by the delivery - but this was a difficult listen. It was a seemingly quite aggressive delivery that seemed incongruent with her message. Only a shame in so far it might put those off who are teetering on the edge of understanding and holding 'small c' conservative values with regard to education.
EXTRAORDINARY!
let’s clone Katherine and Mikaela!
10:21 *crying out for order and structure* - implying order and structure are incompatible with a ‘relational’ approach (see Devon County Council, Nottinghamshire County Council, Brighton and Hove City Council guidance). False dichotomy #3
Oh get out of your theory-rut!
She’s talking from experience. People who lack experience in our schools might be helped by imagination, but never by theory.
I like a rut, especially one I can get my tongue in 😉
Preach!
17:44 *their habits become who they are* - Aristotle taken out of context 👍
Pointless pedantry.
Oh that Birbalsingh could be cloned by the thousands !
Place the Monarchy, Oligarchy and Prime Ministers in Eton and we should be alright.
I have great respect for the woman, but the constant insistence on the "small c" sounds very weird. We get it. Make point in the beginning and move on. Conservatism isn't a tory property.
16:33 *we prefer to teach a man how to fish rather than give a man a fish* - is that why you micromanage children's lives through external regulation and introjection?
Please! No more Introjection!
Black people come from Africa - where I was born from parents who came to Rhodesia after WW1, Are you perhaps related to people who came from India ?
Her message is right, but she is rather loud and hectoring - something Sir Roger Scruton never was.
9:28 *parents and teachers shouldn’t be friends with the children […] inspire, respect, and admiration, yes, but not friendship, that is to muddy the lines of respect between child and adult* - False dichotomy #2
Dichotomy Lobotomy.
I studied A Level English (86-88) and not one black author or poet. I was happy to study Shakespeare, Dickens and Keats. You present black issues unreasonably while normalising the status quo. At least be fair on this.
9:15 *you can’t possibly be a very good teacher* - Well, according to Katherine, it's IMPOSSIBLE to teach well, and learn something from your students. False Dichotomy #1
In general the learner should learn more than the teacher. This not very controversial.
Nor can you be a good teacher if you don't learn from your students. Some have troubles you've never even thought about.
51:13 *you can’t expect someone to figure out French on their own* - oh right, I wonder how children learnt to speak before schools?
8:31 *Teacher should be the authority in the classroom leading form the front* - Yes, like robot encyclopaedia vomiting information for children to believe and regurgitate.
Only 8 minutes in and your brain has turned into a cabbage.
You're right about so much but you need to talk TO people not AT them. You're not right about EVERYTHING. People switch off because they want not be themselves NOT what YOU want them to be
What an awful self-promoting grifter. No substance behind anything she says, just empty platitudes to appeal to little Britain. She will go far, unfortunately.
Good grief...no matter what you do, can't please all :) well she is successful...see results
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