Half-Life: Echoes is a Masterpiece, here's why
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- Taking a look at what some call the best Half-Life Mod ever made
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Correction: As some of you have pointed out, Half-Life: Alyx released after this mod did, which made a point I made in the Half-Life: Alyx spoiler section irrelevant! Sorry for that mistake!
Hey, the only reason why all things electronic and failing before the resonance cascade was because the test parameters and pretest drawing so much power, one scientist even says when you get lower in the complex, "the system wasn't meant to handle this much"
@@54326dustinearls interesting, though that dosen't explain the entire complex shaking sometimes I think?
Then wouldn't it be a good idea to edit that part out if it isn't relevant and only causes misconception?
(And while your at it, perhaps you could also cut the spongebob part out? You have no idea how greatly my ptsd has been triggered by it.)
Does anyone know if Echoes will get a sequel? Specifically from the author who made the mod?
It seems to have the most potential of all Half Life mods to get a sequel
Fun fact:
If you noclip to the scientist running at 2:33 you can see that its gordon freeman running to the trams since hes late to work
Damn
Echoes really injected that sense of horror and fear that HL1 played around with. First time playing, it was genuinely kinda terrifying at times.
same with cry of fear
I took my headphones off at the Mr friendly part because of how scared I was 😭
I had to mute my audio during the vent chase part because I was too frightened by the creatures
HL1 didn't 'play around' with it, it was insanely cool at the time.
It's just you people needing constant sensorial input to feel horror and fear these days.
@@homegrown6845 Blud WILDIN' 💀
You arent a security guard in this game, telling by the white seleves when holding a weapon in this game, we are a scientist.
To be fair I am colorblind but aren’t they kinda tinted blue or gray a bit?
Really, we don't get access to weapons nor the armor until AFTER the incident, it seems like we have no security guard credentials.@@1lucia
forgot to mention the white hud but that should be obvious :skull:
@@1lucia the player model is a scientist if you use cheats for thirdperson.
The real question is
Why do we all have to wear these
RI DI CU LOUS ties?
I love the backtracking part of the mod, seeing the same place getting torn apart after the incident is great
Yeah as great as all the odysseys being taken in the actual Half Life games and many other mods are, it's surprisingly interesting to get a sense of the disaster by watching one location steadily deterioriate
Thank you so much - I am astounded people are still enjoying my mod all these years later.
It was such a journey to make, and praise like this makes me know it was worth it.
I am happy you mentioned the "cartoonish size" of Black Mesa - I really went all in on creating an impossibly massive and impractical place.
The idea of somewhere ridiculous like this being created then being absolutely underfunded and badly maintained always entertains me.
I really enjoyed the video!
It’s an honor to have you comment on my video! Hope to see more mods from you some day! :D
James! I just completed your mod today, it was such a beautiful journey and it captured my heart in the way Valve have, which as you known is something very special. Thank you so much for your hard work and for bringing happiness to so many! Hope I can buy you a drink one day
@@1lucia One day, definitely. Half-Life isn't going anywhere :)
@@BigDrummerMan The Half-Life series has captured my imagination like nothing else ever has. I am sincerely grateful I could replicate part of that feeling for you. Cheers to you!
Is the player character in this mod supposed to be Eli?
That's what I had assumed.
I think the fact that the protagonists' identity is up in the air has a charm in and of itself, since it helps immerse the player more into the role of a random scientist working during and surving the resonance cascade.
One other thing that also helps the immersion is the HEV guard, since he serves as a sort of in-universe "protagonist" - saving lives, going on fun adventures, etc. while you are just trying to survive this whole ordeal. For all intents and purposes, the player character is just one of the many scientists Gordon or HEV guy finds during the game, only being used to open doors or heal the player.
The HEV guard is my only gripe with the mod. It's not lore friendly at all and just goofy. Guards don't wear HEV suits, especially before the incident.
@@Michael_HuntIt might not even be a guard. His voice and face model might have been chosen on the account that they have more combat related voice clips.
@@Jell-o-cidemaybe the barney clone was chosen because the hev suit corpses didnt really have a face modeled
@@Michael_Huntwhy wouldn’t they? What if they need to guard a hazardous area or a base in xen
@@Michael_Hunt My only gripe with him is not covering his face with a mask, we already SAW so many corpses of HEV wearers in Half Life 1 so it's believable, I just wish that hev guard also had face mask
The use of green lights that show you where you need to proceed if you're lost or show you hidden ammo was also really clever.
Didn't doom 2016 do this?
@@abramjessiah Games have been using lights to indicate the correct path ever since game engines could do lighting.
A lot of games have normalized green
It's worth pointing out this mod came out BEFORE Half-Life Alyx. As far as anyone knew, Epistle 3 was the end of the Half-Life story at that point.
these were the dark times
I know the episode 3 blog isn't canon and this game came out before alyx but let's pretend that isn't the truth so I can share my own speculation for this. Episode 3 does happen and the reason alyx was taken away was because she got hired after her HLA self made the deal with the gman that took them both and the alyx from the end of episode 2 from their own time.
All this cross-timeline confusion is making my head hurt.
guys, give this man some credit for his INSANE amount of work for doing hand-keyed subtitles for this ENTIRE video. one of the most under-appreciated details making these A+ video essays.
I did this as an experiment for a funny 9 min video and almost went insane
With such a thick accent and constant sputtering it is a nice addition, but almost a necessity.
@@istvankovacs4154 "sputtering"?
for anyone wondering theres tons of other easter eggs and Details to be seen!
If you follow a random worker right at the start of the game the Kingpin will take control of him and Talk to you!
Wait WHAT
What does it say
My personal canon for this mod is that Mr Friendly and Kingpin species, being visually similar with that skin-like coloration, have some connection or symbiotic relationship, and Kingpins in particular serve as either their own force or special forces or spies of Nihilanth. After encounter with Friendly, the Kingpin takes notices of you and somehow senses Gman's own connection on influence to you and attempts to use you to meddle with. Also, the protagonist is just a guy who works at Black Mesa but whose actual job is irrelevant. Don't think he's a guard since there's no Blue Shift dialogues where guards identify you as colleague are used. Hell could be an accountant or janitor for all I care.
I'm almost positive that you play as either Eli or Eli's wife, considering all the stuff with Alyx, Eli's voiceover and stuff.
@@ahealthkit2745I don't think that's the case
@@ahealthkit2745 Given that the ending has the player being nuked, I really doubt you are Eli, since he is of course alive in Half Life 2, while the player is very dead at the end of Echoes. You're hands are also white, where as Eli is an African-American.
Azian was a popular theory among some players, but I remember a while back, the dev stating that we aren't playing as her, and that a pile of gore can be found in Alyx's closet, which is apparently supposed to be Azian's remains. Honestly, kind of disappointing. Azian would have been the most fitting protagonist for this mod, given that the entire goal for the player is to find Alyx, her daughter. She and Eli would be the only characters with any investment in finding her. She also just hasn't been explored as a character in any Half Life game or mod so far. Reducing her to just some giblets in a closet and passing her torch to a rando is kind of disappointing and a missed opportunity.
I guess we'll really never know.@@xxfalconarasxx5659
In retrospect someone pointed out the white hands on the model, and yeah. Probably just a random unnamed scientist. Makes all the stuff with the other established characters feel very weird and incongreunt with what happens near the end tho.@@ajxx9987
You can't just cut the "Lore Discussion" bit , it adds a lot of charm to the discussion of lore.
I kinda liked it but it was so rushed when I made it up. Perhaps I‘ll make some short intro for the next time I do it
I like the idea that some greater power is trying to prevent the Resonance Cascade by messing with Black Mesa in the past causing equipment malfunctions to outright death.
I have my own personal theory that makes a little more sense with this in mind. Thanks.
If you don't mind me asking, I'd like to hear your theory
@@deepflare1028 Too keep it short, one key part is Gordon was never supposed to be in Black Mesa. He was grabbed from his time and place by the Gman and then placed in the Black Mesa Incident. I mean think about it, has he every actually done any science? Even Barney comments on how his apparent MIT graduate status is REAL helpful for flipping switches.
@@walnzell9328 Now that is a really wild conspiracy take, don't you think?
@@victuz Yes I do
@@walnzell9328 To add more to this theory, Mossman was the one originally supposed to be hired in Black Mesa, not Gordon. Gordon was only hired because he was recommended by what's-his-name.
I really enjoyed the visual story telling of Half Life Echoes, The biggest example and my favorite is how the bridge area represents the current status of Black Mesa. At first we see the Military arriving into BM in a seemingly heroic manner. Second time we pass they have control of the situation and third time they start to evacuate BM and the fourth and last time we can see BM completely overrun by Alien mantarays and the HECU long gone. Also I like the little detail of the crashed Osprey with the dead HECU marines laying around. Next time we revisit the area we can see the marines placed the bodies in stretchers and body bags. I also Guz was killed by the HECU and for the trap they set up to kill "freeman" (HEV Barney). Overall my favorite HL mod
Echoes is a masterclass in level design. It's amazing that one guy was able to so strongly grasp how to make good levels. My favorite thing he does is he always introduces an area before you fight in it. Very effective for player engagement. It's also got great humor, interesting set pieces, and looks great. I hope he does another project.
I was just bewildered how he outdid base game, makes me think maybe HL1 isn't as good as we thought 😅.
Seriously, the storytelling in Echoes is just so many ways better than in base game, and I'm saying it after hearing all the hype about Echoes, usually hype makes me critical of whatever I watch/play but echoes is just that good that I couldn't critique it 😅
babe wake up, an underrated half life mod that’s another masterpiece dropped
"underrated" is the last thing that anyone would use to describe the mod
This is one of the most popular if not the most popular hl1 ever. Certainly not underrated lol
Random trivia I think I know about this:
The Kingpin seen in the mod is apparently a character referred to as "the Seer", which is probably how they're able to show Candidate #12 visions of the future.
The Gargantua seen throughout the mod was intentionally designed to be a "Nemesis" type character, like in Resident Evil. Being this big monster that shows up throughout the story to antagonize you repeatedly (while not strictly being the main villainous force), sometimes inadvertently saving you, before finally having a big showdown at the end.
But kingpin ended up preventing our character from being hired by gman
The mod is really detailed, the HD model are consistent even including Otis model where in the original Blue Shift there are all HD version for every model except for Otis
you having only 25k subs is a crime YOU NEED MORE
I dunno if anyone noticed but at the beginning of the mod when you walk into the Women's toilett you can see the boots of Gina's and Collette's HEV suits behind the toilett stalls
And when you try to open the door they just shout at you to leave, and tbh it was nice to see Gina and Collette as eastereggs in a HL1 mod
woah! haha that was some really cute editing at 0:10 having the title card cast shadows on the roof of the building!
I'm glad someone noticed lol
I think we were playing as Eli's wife. The fact we were put in the area where they lived, the voice over saying he doesn't know what happened to her followed by our death at the explosion. That to me all points towards her
If I remember right there is blood in Eli's room in the closet. I believe its implied her body is in the closet.
I’ve heard this theory and I kinda like it but it is disproven by the fact that ppl freak out if you go to the woman’s bathroom in the beginning of the mod
This was my take too, from context clues. I took people being freaked out from the woman's bathroom more due to THEM being in there and getting caught by you, one of the few female hires.
I like to think you're playing as Egon, personally.
@@tomisabumaren't they Gina and Collette?
WALL OF TEXT WARNING --> Half-Life: Echoes is a mod I have dug into a lot, and using some context clues we can deduce that the protagonist, Candidate 12, who has no confirmed name or backstory, works at Black Mesa as a scientist. Hence the view model hands seeming to wear a labcoat. We can guess there gender when walking into the women's bathroom in Sector H's lobby and hearing a scientist resting on the rail in the lobby notice and say, "You are completely wrong." We can interpret this as him getting angered at us not getting into the correct bathrooms. Extra details and secrets in the mod are found a lot, from crates you can break, secret areas, and even more I don't know about. The journey Candidate 12 takes isn't 100% perfect with the other games. The HECU arrive at Sector H, the Transit Hub, and the nuclear device explodes not long after when Candidate 12 is being teleported to the dormitories by The Seer, (The Kingpin). Which doesn't make sense as they pulled out a lot earlier. I guess we can assume the period The Seer warns Candidate 12 took place over a long period. The Kingpin, dubbed The Seer on the moddb page, can see the future and tries to foil his plans by stopping his hiring of Candidate 12 and saving Alyx. His attempts to achieve his goals can be seen even in the intro to the game, pre incident, where if you follow the construction worker back to the set of red doors where the protagonists vehicle is, takes control of the construction worker and briefly warns Candidate 12 by saying, "For you he waits, for you...", trying to tell him about the G-Man, before the construction worker dissapears in some odd mist. When going back, the construction worker is in his former position and asks us why we look terrible, like we had seen a ghost. Another secret is the scene where the military pulls in, and one soldier is wandering around the other side of the bridge, before noticing the G-Man on the other, before the G-Man moves his right hand and the soldier is enveloped in a greenish gas before walking off like nothing happened, as if he had wiped his memory. Trivia: Half-Life Echoes uses a custom revamped Construction Worker and Engineer model, reminiscent of the PS2 models used in the mod aswell. This has been used in other mods as a choice by people like FreeSlave, which is neat. ( I might be wrong, though.) There is a series named "Ryan's Mind", which uses Half-Life: Echoes to tell the story of Ryan, taking the place of Candidate 12, similar to Freeman's mind. The mod has HECU trucks everywhere pre-incident, which is probably a stand in for other vehicles.(The Mind Series is now discontinued sadly.) You can find the revolver in a bathroom when looking up and spotting a vent grate, it sitting on the grate. Shooting the vent grate you can take the revolver after it falls down. I went on a tangent here making this comment, and I have tons more to say still, but honestly please play it yourself, you won't regret it.
Damn, you got some great deep lore here!
Comment was very rough, but I tried to write my thoughts comprehensively, thanks for bearing with it.
Is it possible to find a Tau Cannon hidden somewhere? I used impulse_101 one time and it gives you a tau cannon, which has unique new visuals when firing, like the Gluon Gun. Seems like a waste of time to update the visuals for a weapon that won't be used so I speculate that there could be one hidden somewhere. But then again the deliberate placement of the Gluon Gun right at the end would seem to go against that theory, as if the player had a Tau Cannon they could theoretically kill the Garg without running away back to the arena, thus sequence breaking.
@@jtrax2214 I don't think you can find a tau cannon, but this mod IS full of surprises, and the updated visuals definitly are odd to add without using normally.
@joeytraxler4436 about that last point, maybe the tau cannon was removed as a last minute decision because of the sequence breaking thing
literally JUST replayed this mod yesterday, can't believe it's been five years since it's release. I remember being hyped for it when it was first announced and being so excited those five years later when it released.
I love the fact youre not the main character youre just another scientist that manages to survive the hev guard rather fits the main character part as he is the one defeating the „scary monster“ that terrorizes the player and saving other people off screen. Until he dies himself of course. I love mods like echoes that expand on the bm incident and let you see through other peoples eyes on that day.
wait a minute , it's been 25 years since HL1 was release already ?
Man I'm feelin' old asf 💀
Yeah it’s shocking lol
Thank you so much for your in-depth explanation of what parallax is, bro
My headcanon for this mod is that you're actually playing as Azian, Eli Vance's wife and Alyx's mother. It would make sense given the ending cutscene
No, you aren't Azian cause if you look in the closet of the bedroom after Gman goes after the Kingpin you can see a mangled corpse model.
Also the scientist you play as has a male character model.
So no, you are definitely not Azian at all. Just a random scientist that Gman had taken interest in.
Actually makes the most sense given the dialogue and stuff that happens.
This is so weird though, why would a random scientist be around to see Gman abduct Alyx and why would Eli's voiceover play?@@EnclaveSOC-102
def not, other people refer to you as a male
@@EnclaveSOC-102🤓 you enraged by RUclips comment lol
Considering you can see a lab coat on your view model and the HUD color being white indicates, yes you are a scientist
4:35
Point of View had security guards in blue HEV suits as enemies before Echoes, just to correct that nitpick
also regarding the ability to follow that scientist for the easter egg, if you follow the first construction worker you see in the basement parking lot until the very end, you get another hint at the lore of the game
same with 11:00 if you follow the marine officer when he goes back to the entrance
Azure Sheep did it first. Hell, you even get to BE one (a guard on an HEV suit).
@@Nevermore2790 thats because both were made by the same team
Azure sheep also has two versions of the same weapons, the first set having regular security guard clothes and the second set having the hev suit
Halfway through the video and seeing all the added detail and models and I thought how amazing it'd look if it was remade in Black Mesa.
Then I got to the end of the video, great to hear it's being worked on.
The way gman spins around with no animation stiffly at 4:10 really cements his character as an eldrich horror
5:08 this is the best moment of the entire mod
Just want to say I truly enjoy your content . There is a lot of the modding community that get overshadowed by all the funny or basic graphic overhauls mod far easier to produce ? It is nice having channels doing entertaining deep dive on them .
the security guard baby blue scene was hilarious! keep up the good work
I always figured that Candidate 12 was a black mesa scientist who was thrust into a loop (since he never leaves the area he's on, and thus sees the progress of the Black Mesa Incident) so one can see how he could adapt and survive in a closed enviroment by G-Man's employers. the only reason 12 seems to fail is because of how he follows the Xen crystal and comes into contact with the kingpin, resulting in G-Man's employers deciding that while he is capable of surviving unforseen and dangerous situations he's too suceptible to external influences to be trusted and thus was left to die in the blast that destroys black mesa.
Itd be cool if there was an alternative ending where u get hired or smthn
I like to think that Candidate 12 was terrified throughout the whole game
I can just imagine him just doing the scientist scream throughout the entire game
I mean tell me which protagonist wasn't terrified after the crystal was put under the anti-mass spectrometer ray.
4:34 Half-Life: Azure Sheep
Yes! please do a video on cut half life enemies. Sure there are many videos on them, but your voice is just perfect. Also please keep saying "LORE DISCUSSION" its funny, it could be your thing LUL
Wow!!!! What a great video! I'm so glad I found your channel!!! Keep up the fantastic work my friend. I am for SURE subscribing to your channel.
By the sleeves when holding a weapon, it's safe to say we're a scientist, which makes echoes the long awaited half life:white shift
8:24 Bro thinks he's in Breaking Bad edit 💀
I would love to see a video on either cut enemies or Beta content is general it’s a really interesting concept!
Thanks for flashing that wiki on parallax… I can feel my brain pan expanding
I can't believe it was 5 years ago since this mod came out. It felt like yesterday
2:43 god damn it
"turning a valve to make a steam" great refrence
Ey man, ive watched a few of your videos and this is some well made shit, thank you for your work
I love how the “monster in the vents” uses the stalker scream from L4D2
It’s actually the beta stalker scream from hl2
Just played it. It was amazing ! This is a must play
11:31 this part is stuck in my head, its just so good and memorable
Easily the greatest HL1 mod to date
What about cry of fear and afraid of monsters?
@@unknownman428 Those ones are good too but i feel like they don't have the same amount of replayability as Echoes.
@@justacomedian echoes is one of the best HL mods that take place in the HL universe. For afraid of monsters and cry of fear they are total conversion mods and don't take place in the HL universe. Cry of fear is on steam and it's free but echoes isn't
Cry of fear has more replayability since it has custom campaigns and you can download more maps too. And it's probably the best horror game to do depression too. Afraid of monsters is also great and it can be played on Sven coop like echoes. I like echoes too but it feels boring to me because there is no new weapons, enemies and no LD models too because I don't really like the HD models they look ugly when it comes to the scientist models, Barney's face and the pistol but I do like the m16(or m4 idk) and the shotgun.
I'll give echoes a 8/10 it is pretty well made. I do like the addition of Mr friendly too.
I do not if someone has already mentioned it, but in 4:35, you are actually wrong. You can see security guards wearing H.E.V. suits (and even embody one) in one of the greatest half life mod, "Azure sheep" :) good video nonetheless 😁
Security guards with HEV suits has been done before. I think Azure Sheep did it first.
jumping into the pool triggers a response from the guards, try it
11:27 “we then get introduced to a very interesting cutscene…”
“WELCOME TO OUR WORLD…
🚥🏎️🏍️🚤🚁🚜🚦🎆
THE WORLD OF NŌS!”
i'm currently working on a half life 1 story mod of a scientist escape with a deeper look into the facility, the mod is currently based on source 1 (half life 2's engine) and the main reason why i did not anonc it yet, is because i'm currently cleaning the code from half life 2 structures and remaking some well known modern games combat mechanics into source
the main reason why i'm doing this is because some half life 1 modders want to move to source 1 but it's not easy since u need to code alot of stuff, some uses black mesa source and some really wants to add new npcs or feature that require source, this mod looks perfect to remake
hell yeah id love a video with the cut enemies of half life
Kingpins are definitely the precursor creature to advisors.
6:57 actually made me lmao cuz this sound effect is used so much in memes
So glad to see im not the only one who likes having friendly npcs around, especially in horror games. Im so used to seeing other gamers shoot npcs just becuase they can.
that shadow masking of the text at the beginning is awesome lol
8:24 bro thinks he's Walter white
i like half life alot and you showed me some mods and some parts of half life i never seen, since i never played a half life game but watched lot of playthroughs
Well then what are you waiting for?
Its a so fun seeing Jolly playin this mod and enjoying it
half life echoes did come out before the announcement of alyx itself so that's why the ending includes the epistle 3 version :)
7:39 and everyone still loving it!
"Mollywhopped"...
...That's a new one, lmao, i like it
i still remember when Jolly just named gus as "Hard Hat H-tl-r"
Absolutely clears mods like Azure Sheep and PoV
There are some scenes in this mod that I misremembered as being from actually from HL1. Specifically that military bridge scene
13:03 He put up one hell of a fight in that elevator...
i like to think the player is themselves alyx's mom
Jolly's video on Echos is the funniest Half-Life thing I've ever seen.
You're videos is a Little Masterpiece, and remember...
...prepare of Unforseen Consequences.
I think we play as Eli's wife.
His ending quote refers to her, and she would be the only other person who might go and look for Alyx and canonically was in Black Mesa, though she didn't make it out and we never learn whether she was a scientist. We also know for sure that we aren't a security guard, since we need to find a guard for opening the door.
11:23 "you look lonley. I can fix that"
Good video. I'll put this on my list.
It's been a while since I heard about Lego Island extreme stunts lol
I still remember when this mod first came out, and when i saw it the first thing i did was downloading it.
The topic of Chaos was very well made in it.
There are quite many mods, you are considiring "if not the best..."
So glad you mention Lego Island, I remember thinking this was the most massive, and open world game ever. It wasn't. But it was so magical to me as a kid lmao.
And now, Echoes is remake into Black Mesa for future release.
Love how the mod scene is still alive
i dont know if anyone had already said this but i think the candidate 1 was barney since he escaped black mesa without g-man
17:43 Candidate 13 drove off with 3 buddies to a bar
cringe pfp
I remember that Echoes was release before HL Alyx so that's why the mod do not use anything from that game.
Also if you didnt know, at the intro of the game you can follow a Gus at the parking and a scientists when you are at that open area with the big black mesa logo, those two are good Easter eggs that you must see!
The pistol sound is just straight up from Max Payne 1.
Maybe Candidate 12 is a lore stand-in for the player themselves
Heh, i just suggested to Civvie that he should cover this mod for Half Life's 25th anniversary, and now here you've done exactly that.
2.45 oh that's why I remember that mod somehow. I saw jollys video
18:46 The moment Black Mesa gets Echoes, Decay, Blue Shift, and Opposing Force is going to be grand.
You are the scientist in the logo (type thridperson in console)
Great find there! I'd say that at least 90% confirms it, but then again, Gordon Freeman was just a gray blob in thirdperson, which wasn't his true form!
What I'm getting at is that that could maybe be a placeholder. But it is pretty compelling evidence, wish I would've known that when making this video!
what would be cool is that the protagonist is actually dr kleiner
Before my retroid pocket started having button issues, this was one of the last things I played through fully. It was excellent. A bit short. But if being short means that the quality doesn’t get compromised then so be it. Very fun.
I know half life and its mods are never meant to have "a happy ending", but HEV Barney should have lived or at least stick with you until the last chapter. He was too cool to die in a cheap way like that
Wish there were more Half Life total conversions with happier endings or neutral ones
Why are hl1 mods so scared of the idea of simply letting their protagonists come out alive in a similar fashion to barney or being hired by gman? I would like to headcanon stuff like stefan from field intensity sacrificing himseelf during the seven hour war for the sake of their people or some protags surviving up to the hl2 era, but i cant do that if the mod ends with their dead body
@@dylanzlol7293 Because most mod makers follow the formula that half life protagonists never truly had a happy ending. Which is correct, Freeman may be alive but he is still a puppet, Adrian is to this day still in stasis out there...somewhere... Barney's whereabouts are still unknown
@@zorgapb4691 barney calhoun survived through, he's on hl2, so clearly he got a happy ending and theyre def possible, colette green's fate is unknown, theorized to be working for the Combine.
You dont have to kill off your protagonist because of "no happy ending!!1" when you can just let the player think about what became of them on their own, at least azure sheep and POV understood this, even through they became almost immediately non-canon because of blue shift releasing afterwards (along with some other things)
my theory is that (explained by some other theorists) that g-man's accomplices he employs like gordon or adrian are called canidates. your role in the facility doesn't really matter, all that matters is that g-man thinks you should be employed because he knows you are somebody at the same "skill set" of somebody like gordon or adrian i just mentioned.
however, the kingpin you meet knows that g-man is malicious and is only using people (the part where adrian and gordon flash by with him talking about how he's only here to decieve you), so the kingpin tries to keep g-man from employing you. g-man is obviously angered by this cause the kingpin has a lot of power, maybe even more than g-man himself.
the ending sequence also shows the kingpin "saving" alyx from perhaps being employed like seen in half life: alyx (???) but then being killed by g-man
TL;DR: kingpin saves you from being employed by g-man and ending shows how g-man planned it all from the start
Gotta like for the Lego Island reference.
Can't wait for the Black Mesa remake "Candidate 12" for this mod.