Always appreciated how Zack blocks most of Sephiroth's Octaslash. Shows that while Zack's not *as* strong as Sephiroth he's at least able to keep up with him
not even sure sephiroth was even taking this fight seriously, and also have to put into account sephiroth wasn't in his right mental mind frame. I don't think Zack would be able to keep up with a fully focused sephiroth.
@@c-red4637 It didn't seem like Sephiroth cared about this fight in the slightest, probably just wanted Zack to leave him alone more than anything else, all he wanted here was Jenova. The only person who could solo a serious Sephiroth is Advent Chidren Cloud, OG Cloud and Zack would get whooped I think.
Zack was the 2nd strongest member in SOLDIER. He fought with the Top 3, Sephiroth, Angeal & Genesis. While he couldn't beat Sephiroth, he was still able to beat the other two.
4:05 I’m sorry but I’m not seeing enough people talk about how absolutely menacing the “traitor” and “you will pay” is from George. Dude sounds like a monster in the best way
@@aya8475 It’s hard to tell cause either you’re a 14 year old who is still struggling to understand that opinions exist and yours is just as shit as mine or anyone else’s. Or you’re a fully grown adult who’s parents never taught how to NOT be an insufferable excuse for a human. I was just saying something positive about the video dude. Miss me with your middle school attitude
Imagine the overhauled graphics with the original voice acting for the fight. I'd honestly like to see a mod or in game option for something like that.
@@eclipsion6728 It should also ironically be noted that there are plenty of videos being uploaded now that have brought over many of the original voice actors and synced them to the remakes cutscenes as movies.
This scene is not that bad compared to a lot of the other flat or off putting scenes with the new VA. But man does the original just blow it out of the water delivery wise
I feel like the director for the English voice acting definitely didn't give the right direction for how the characters should sound in scenes, because some scenes like this are pretty good, but others it doesn't sound like how the character would react after what they've been through (for example the final fight with genesis, Zack doesn't sound as annoyed as he should be more just confused) but I could also be basing how they should sound off the original game who knows. But yea it's obvious when they have the right direction the actors can actually sound good
@@theplatdream26 The inconsistency in the VA is what leads me to believe its not really a direction problem. How do they nail 90% of the cast and dialogue in Remake and completely fumble Zack and Seph in both Remake and the rest of the cast in CC outside of Aerith and Cloud VA. Plus this is a remaster of a game that already had voice work. Had Caleb did his homework he would be able to understand the context of the characters and scenes to have the right tone in his delivery. To me I think its more of inexperience in voice over work than it is anything else. It’s not like Caleb Pierce is notable actor in GENERAL. The dude has almost no IMDB credentials in both live action and in voice work .
Maybe it's because I didn't grow up with original VAs my first experience with Zack having actual voice lines was in FF7R. But even looking back I've always preferred new VAs over the old ones. Especially in Sephiroth and Clouds case
@@ISoundMasterBlasterI Sephiroth did fine Imo, nobody can compare to newbern and that's a fact but the acting wasn't bad but also it is definitely directing, because Zack was honestly much better in intergrade ff7 remake and sounded much more closer to how we knew Zack. But in crisis core some scenes were questionable while more of the endgame scenes were voiced better.
Sometimes I regret playing Reunion on Hard Mode, this fight is such a difficulty spike. Even with HP Up++ maxed out, most of Sephiroth's moves in this fight are one hit kills
i kinda hate that in reunion sephiroth doesn't have his eyes glow like they do in some parts of the cutscenes in this fight. also when sephiroth stares at zack and does an evil smile , yeah the new model looks better but his expressions is much less evil looking. in og crisis core his facial expression is pretty much " oh i'm gonna enjoy tearing you apart "
I personally like it, not for the fact that he has lost that menacing grin, but the fact that this sephiroth, the one who is still finding his truth, he looks so done with you, with humanity as a whole. He seemed like he wanted to crush you, with no questions asked whatsoever. He isn’t toying with you, but rather, really trying to murder you.
16:33 Okay as much as I don’t like Zack’s new voice actor, I’ll admit when he says “Brace Yourself!” before Octaslash Lv.5, it legitimately sounds exactly like Rick Gomez. Like to the point where I thought they used an unused voice clip from the original or something.
The OG doesn't have that sequence before he does a power surge but I think it's definitely Caleb. He sounds good in short lines or lines where he doesn't have to copy Rick Gomez. Although when he says "Out of the way!" when encountering enemies it definitely sounds like the OG sound file. Or Caleb just nailed that one too
I always hated this fight. It makes no sense canonically. Yes, Zack is strong and very, very skilled. But in the original game Zack runs into the room where Sephiroth is and then three seconds later he flies out of the room, hits the ceiling and the pipes and then lands backwards on one of the pods. He just gets decimated by Sephiroth in a matter of seconds because Sephiroth wanted him out of the way so he could have his reunion. I know in this game he's the hero, but don't change what was originally portrayed for the sake of building up the protagonist. Zack isn't supposed to be a match for Sephiroth, in fact, it makes Sephiroth look weak here. "YOU DEFEATED SEPHIROTH" ...It just takes the danger out of the situation entirely and makes him as an antagonist not seem as dangerous as he is. When Cloud stabbed Sephiroth, it was an act of desperation. A last ditch effort to stop him. Also, Sephiroth going back into the room to stab Cloud is ridiculous. In the original, Cloud and Zack were ants to Sephiroth. Even after being stabbed he had a single focus which was getting Jenova out of there. He didn't care about anything else. These knats kept getting in his way though. It comes to a head when Zack tells Cloud to finish him off and Cloud runs after him and gets stabbed and then he throws Sephiroth over the side. When they portray Sephiroth as being petty enough to go back to the Jenova room to finish off Cloud, it elevates Cloud's presence which wasn't the point of the original scene. It was to show how a regular nobody finished off the great Sephiroth.
Reverse for me. It doesn't make sense that you're able to beat sephiroths stronger forms if your strongest party member and arguably the strongest characters outside sephiroth can't beat him in weakest form
Taking into account that here Sephiroth feels like a god, for a normal Human to stab him and confront him is already a great lack of respect...and don't look for logic, it's Final Fantasy please, I understand that sometimes there must be some logic but come on, this is Final Fantasy where a group of random people practically kill god being simple humans
A lot of people hating on the remaster. The graphics were amazing, the VA was decent (true we didn't get everyone back but they did well), and the music was even better. They took a lot of the original music and mixed it with some of the newer stuff. Yes this soundtrack sounds amazing and you hear the original one winged angel however the newer version is much more dramatic as well as ominous. The choir and orchestra is very dark, showing a kind of desent into the villain we know and love. So nag at it all you like however they did well and if they redid Dirge like this I would also play it.
Orginal: "Cloud....Finish Sephiroth off...off" Rebirth: "Cloud....finish Sephiroth...off" Lol could they really not change it too "cloud...finish....Sephiroth"
I think the summons are more noticeably inconsistent in design then anyone in the original story cgi cutscenes, save for maybe the shinra infantryman who still have their pre remake uniforms. Plus you see the summon animations constantly because they are tied to the DMW. They also redid them to be much shorter. May not have been worth the time and resources for Square to redo all of the cgi for a remaster, though obviously it would've been appreciated.
let's keep in mind that at this point in the timeline, Cloud wasn't infused with Jenova Cells or inherited Zack's memories/skills yet, so the fact he was able to stand up to Sephiroth is all the more impressive.
I wonder why they omitted her face on reunion, i was expecting to see it. That, and the loss of Sephiroth’s lines during his Octaslash kinda sucked. But still, overall, i loves the game, made combat way more enjoyable and less interrupted, as well as tedious.
@@bend.7590 For whatever reason there's Whisper mist around Cloud and Sephy when they stab each other near the end of the scene, which is extra dumb when there wasn't even blood there to begin with in the original. And apparently they covered Tifa's chest again near the beginning. Yet Tifa in this *same* outfit, in a flashback of this *same* scene, and any other flashback with the cowboy outfit, wasn't covered up in FF7R despite the covering up of her default outfit in present day.
I don’t care what anybody says, Sephiroth’s new voice actor absolutely murdered Newbern’s depiction in this entire scene. Hoechlin comes off as a more natural voice, as opposed to trying too hard to being too anime. Hoechlin also comes off as more eerie, creepy, and menacing. Which is fitting for him initially losing his mind at this moment. I also think that his delivery is much better than Newbern’s in this entire sequence. HOWEVER, I love Newbern, and I think his portrayal in Advent Children is on an entirely different level!! I know I’ll get hate for this, but to be honest. After coming back after almost a decade to replaying this game, and then hearing Newbern’s portrayal in Crisis Core after hearing Hoechlin’s…..I couldn’t even get through Newbern’s. I think people that say otherwise are just too nostalgia stricken and they’re just being blinded and petty always complaining about the new voice actors. I think a lot of people overlook too that Newbern got some BEAST ASS FREGGIN lines in Advent Children. While Hoechlin has been very very limited by his lines in Remake. Just my opinion…..people will hate on it, but after seeing Hoechlin’s portrayal in this with having pretty weak dialogue. I have no doubts whatsoever that he’s going to absolutely kill it in Rebirth. I can’t wait.
From an objective standpoint, the newer cast works better in almost every regard. I'm assuming it's mostly on the voice director but most of the old cast had barely any range going for them. Sephiroth, for example, had a good villain voice but in Crisis Core it never went away and it made certain scenes weird because it never felt like we were actually hearing him as a genuinely good person. On the other hand, Zack's new voice is certainly sub standard if not just plain bad at times but the other cast do great work in Reunion even with the shoddy script, something the old cast really couldn't pull off in the original. They old cast did good enough work with what they were given but they had plenty of faults, a lot of which probably wasn't even their own. Honestly, anyone saying the old cast is better really is just blinded by nostalgia
Jenova was never dead... Divided in parts yes, but not dead. Otherwise she wouldn't be able to influence Sephiroth and Cloud. This was stated in the japanese version of FF7 original, that after Sephiroth is thrown into the mako by Cloud, the Jenova's head he was clinging to, fuses with him as to keep sephiroth alive, which also results in the drastic change to his personality which is somewhat overwritten by Jenova (Sephiroth becomes a vessel for Jenova). In the end of FF7 original, the Jenova cells inside Sephiroth change his form into Bizarro Sephiroth and Safer Sephiroth (since Jenova can shapeshift). At the very end, the face off between Cloud and Sephirtoh is supposed to be happening inside Sephiroth's mind, now free of Jenova. The issue was that despite the bad english translation of the FF7 Original, which makes it look like it's Sephiroth who actually comes to overpower Jenova's influence and becomes somewhat of a god himself, it was very well received, and they opted to cling to that version of the story... Maybe this allowed more flexibilty to the story, allowing them to write more and add more details? idk
And that's honestly Just about it!!! it is amazing and lives up too the original but better and the summons was hoping they would be just like remake where you summon them and they fight right besides you for a period of time!!!
I feel like this should have come out between parts 2 and 3. New fans of the series might have played this first, and when part 2 comes out, they're going to get confused when Cloud self-inserts over Zack.
Sephiroth does only 5 hit on his Octaslash. When it should have been 8 slashes. As the name is literally caleed "OCTA"-slash meaning Eight slash. Kinda hoped they fixed it in the remake. Or at least say Octaslash v5 or something. 😑
Nah. Sephiroth stopped octoslash He anticipated zack blocking the last 3 remaining strikes remembering zack blocked some of his strikes when he used it. Zack knows octoslash and can use it(Sephiroth DMW)
@@J-Hue The Triple Slash his with the force of 2 slashes each. Or the more reasonable thing, Sephy had to improvise due to Zack blocking the starter and would've done the move normally had he landed the hit clean.
[SPOILERS FROM FF7 Remake] . . . . . . . . I Wonder if the black smoke that was in Sephiroth's and Cloud's wounds were supposed to be Destiny stopping them from dying
I thought this too when I first saw it. I think it could be that, or it could be that this is the starting point. I’m currently going the play through 2 and will keep my eye out in case I’m wrong, but that smoke doesn’t show up in the earlier segments and anything past Nibelhiem. Just like with Tseng at the end of Remake and Barret before Jessie and Wedge got sidelined (before Mako 5 went kablooie) neither of them could see the Whispers. Maybe Zack couldn’t see them either. If you go off the theory that Sephiroth - like Aerith - has prior knowledge of what is to happen, then I think (in my opinion) that’s why we only see it with Cloud and Sephiroth.
@@CriellaChant I did think it was Whisper magic in Remake, but I think it's just a convenient method of censorship in Reunion. It's similar to how the Jojo anime covered gore scenes in shadows. Besides, Reunion was made to show new fans what was SUPPOSED to happen in the original series of events with Zach dying, so why involve the Whispers? Rebirth and Part 3 will hopefully explain why the Whispers were interfering with the events as early as Crisis Core.
Consequence of og ff7 and crisis core being released 10 years apart. The steampunk vibe of the original kinda gets lost when they have to come up with new areas.
There wasn't even blood in the original. Why'd Square feel the need to add that ugly, off-putting smoke filter to censor something that wasn't even there to begin with?
Yeah yeah the voices are different, some good some bad- But why'd they change 'Controlling the Iron Beast' Tho? The original was perfect guys, you didn't have to!
Expecting the new voices to be exactly the same is crazy. They did a good job with the new actors. Cloud's great. Sephiroth sounds a bit softer than the OG, but it's overall the same. Zach is the most controversial since he lacks that big brother energy and the VA has trouble sounding upset, making him sound like a whiny kid during the dramatic moments. But for most of the game it didn't bother me since he did capture Zach's character as an energetic optimist, and Reunion has him do the last stand speech in the voice direction it was meant to have.
I agree. And personally, i think it accidentally did a good job in highlighting that Zack hasn’t fully grown yet. He’s still learning, experiencing new things, and during his last stand, his voice finally takes that tone people want, showing that he perished at the peak of his growth
To this day I will never get over how badly this was jacked up in terms of voicing for Reunion. Some lines sound nice, then the others are from awkward to “HOW DO YOU FCK UP THIS BAD?”
dude same, i had maxed dark blizzaga and was taking out the remaining bosses w like 8 hits and no damage. just spam the attack and i had max MP ++ materia
They probably fully expect new fans who played Remake to end up playing Crisis Core Reunion immediately after and they either don't want to spoil Jenova's updated appearance yet or they haven't committed to one yet since Rebirth is currently being worked on. That's my guess personally.
I'm not much of a nostalgia goggle kinda guy so, I guess I'm just not seeing it. The remake sounds perfectly fine. Zack sounds annoying regardless lol...I mean it's like legit damn near the same. If anything the old one sounds more corny
They recasted everyone because they seemingly wanted a newer younger cast to portray the characters going forward. They thought many of the og voice actors were becoming too old to portray younger versions of their characters.
@@ians_parks I find it a bit funny. Steve Burton voiced Cloud for over 15 years, but was recasted just as the remake was taking off. Think they'll recast the FF7 gang in KH?
@@chrisdaughen5257 Maybe. Assuming they continue to use them. Their presence in the series seems to be dwindling as they come up with more original characters to fill out the cast. Cloud and Sephiroth were absent and you only saw the hollow bastion crew briefly in the Remind dlc.
@@ians_parks I'd like to think Nomura is planning to finish the Cloud/Sephiroth plot in KH4. Their fight in KH2 probably took them to Quadratum and Sora will help Cloud find Zach. Huh... I just realized, Cloud was looking for Zach since 2002, waaay before Crisis Core came out. Or maybe at the time they wanted Tifa to be the person he was looking for, before that changed in KH2 (they were probably developing Crisis Core by then).
did anyone max out dark blizzaga and just spammed it without taking damage after getting it. i did it for half the game and defeated sephiroth w like 8 hits and took no damage
@@espurrseyes42 I think the graphics are too advanced to just have them clipping through the characters like in the PSP version. It would look too awkward, but you can't use blood and they already had the smoke effect from Remake so they might as well use it. Although I thought the smoke effect was solely associated with the Whispers and whatever Sephiroth was in that game.
@@chrisdaughen5257 Then don't have blood. Look at Dragonball and how they've removed blood from the show since Super. It'd still be better than using the Whisper smoke effect and implying their influence when, based on what was shown and stated about them in Remake, they shouldn't be involved in Crisis Core since the remaster isn't deviating from the original story and Sephiroth didn't become aware of the timeline until he fell into the Lifestream and started appearing in Remake.
Ok, as someone who has played both the games, i actually perfer sephiroths remade voice because before he becomes evil, his voice is lighter but than once he really becomes evil you can hear it in his voice, to me the original sephiroth obviously has emotion but his voice and tone stay the same throughout the original, the remaster VA does a better job IMO
100% agree. I think Hoechlin’s delivery is vastly better, and his voice comes off more natural, and at the same time has more eeriness, creepiness, and menacing tones. Newbern is great, but honestly….after coming back and watching the original in this scene for the first time since last I played it (7-8 years ago). I couldn’t even get through it….
@@Kenhnau_reeves yeah, and Crisis Core has the worst written script (imo) of any post-PS1, save for Stranger in Paradise. Even Dirge of Cerberus has a better script, IMO.
In terms of the combat, Reunion absolutely DOMINATES. But if we had a choice to use the original and new voices, then that would've been amazing. Granted, I honestly don't mind the new voice for Zack and I've grown to love Cloud, Tifa, and Sepiroth's voices due to Remake.
Presumably, because Zack, due to knowing how to do Octaslash as a result of... whatever the game mechanic is called, was able to block the first hit. But Sephiroth's raw strength on that hit was enough to launch Zack airborne. All around, this forced Sephiroth to improvise the technique, resulting in the version you see here. Sephy swings, Zack blocks but gets launched, Sephy chase him and lets off 3 more slashes, the 3rd of which launches Zack further upward and effectively breaks his defenses, allowing Sephy to land before jumping above him and coming down with one last, extra powerful slash.
Gosh, as a voiceactor myself I just have to get it Out; the voiceacting of the newer Version sucks ass in this scene. Aside from the stiffness and Lack of emotions they even geht the most Basic techniques a voice actor has to learn wrong. No Sense for tonality or which words to emphasize when. And yes there are Rules for that. Voice acting is Part Art and Part technique. Especially "Zack" makes me cringe in both Matters. What a shame.
@@Killer_Kris7 He doesn't sound as deep, but people are bound to notice differences like that after a character gets re-casted after 15 years. The most important thing is that the new guy's acting is on the same level as the OG.
Censorship thanks to the Ethics Department. Ratings are pointless now when companies are internally censoring their games in order to globalize. In 2007, CCFF7 was Cero B (12+) in Japan and the overseas version was T for Teen. The scenes were uncensored and we got naked Jenova with nipple plus a fine looking Tifa. CCFF7R is Cero C (15+) in Japan and still Teen overseas. Now black smoke is added when stabbed, Jenova body hidden, head is altered, and Tifa has black piece of clothing blocking her cleavage when its the same outfit in FF7R proving that she's being targeted.
@@QwertixV from the very beginning, cloud failed the Shira exam to become a first class soilder and ended up being a grunt. Now do you really think it makes any logical sense that sephiroth the strongest of the first class soilder would lose to cloud. Let's look at Zack he pass the Shira soldier exam and was trained by angeal and later mentored by sephiroth. zack was also able to bet both genesis and angeal and they was the second and third strongest first class soilder and Zack couldn't beat sephiroth, lets not forget sephiroth can easily bet them too. But not lets make someone who failed had not training, get stabbed through the chest and still able to lift up sephiroth with the katana and yeets him into a wall and that beats sephiroth. That's a marry sue an I'm not gonna pretend it's not. Now this part is a side rant for Tifa so she see sephiroth go on a rampage and kill everyone and her reaction is to hate everyone involved with Shira including Zack who didn't nothing to her she even says she hates him, so why when cloud shows up with Zack's sword no less and him bragging that he's a first class soilder she doesn't confront him about it.
@@turtle4493 Cloud does states in the og ff7 that he failed the SOLDIER exam because he is not "strong" enough to handle Jenova's cell. In terms of physical powers though, he is just as or if not more than enough to pass. His victory over Sephiroth is also not all achieved by his power alone. Sephiroth himself is the one to blame. 1. He underestimate Cloud, a lowly grunt, and not noticing his presence allowing him to stab Seph with Buster Sword. 2. He underestimate Cloud for the second time and "allow" Cloud to lift him up, using his own sword, and throw him to the lifestream. Which led us to Sephiroth made Cloud's life miserable as hell in the FF7. Like, more than half the things he done to Cloud doesn't contribute much to his plan
@@turtle4493 I completely disagree. Cloud is a wimp in this game and gets beat up a ton of times. And after stabbing Sephiroth he essentially gets killed for it while Sephiroth survives. He then goes into a coma until Zack dies and he experiences a psychological break that convinced him he is Soldier. He is shown losing to low level monsters as a grunt on multiple occasions, he fails to protect Tifa multiple times, gets slapped around by Sephiroth in Nibelheim and gets thrashed by a Sephiroth that’s bleeding out. He couldn’t look any weaker imo and I think he actually needed to be portrayed a bit stronger if he’s a believable protagonist in the sequels.
Assuming that you're using this game as justification why BOTW can look better on Switch, Crisis Core isn't open world whereas BOTW is. Crisis Core even with new modern graphics still relies on linear hallways and short segmented zones because at its core its still a PSP game from 2007. If you want graphics like this for Zelda on Switch expect it from a far less demanding title, like say a hypothetical remaster of Ocarina of Time in the same vein as this game.
@@ians_parks Your reading too much into this. This is a simple fact. The unreal engine’s produced graphics is significantly better than the color cell shading Zelda games have done since Wind Waker. It’s a simple fact.
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Always appreciated how Zack blocks most of Sephiroth's Octaslash. Shows that while Zack's not *as* strong as Sephiroth he's at least able to keep up with him
not even sure sephiroth was even taking this fight seriously, and also have to put into account sephiroth wasn't in his right mental mind frame. I don't think Zack would be able to keep up with a fully focused sephiroth.
@@c-red4637 It didn't seem like Sephiroth cared about this fight in the slightest, probably just wanted Zack to leave him alone more than anything else, all he wanted here was Jenova.
The only person who could solo a serious Sephiroth is Advent Chidren Cloud, OG Cloud and Zack would get whooped I think.
Zack was the 2nd strongest member in SOLDIER. He fought with the Top 3, Sephiroth, Angeal & Genesis. While he couldn't beat Sephiroth, he was still able to beat the other two.
Maybe because Zack also knows how to do the Octaslash
@@marksmania42 Zack is a Mimic-type fighter. He has his own versions of the Limit Breaks used by other characters. This makes him like Sora.
Zack fighting Sephiroth in the catwalk gives me empire strikes back vibes
Zack kinda has a similar personality to luke skywalker
ff7 as a whole has mad Star Wars feel tbh
@@donteo508 Not really. FF6 is more Star War esque as a whole imo. FF7 is more like Nadia secret of blue water meets Bladerunner
4:05 I’m sorry but I’m not seeing enough people talk about how absolutely menacing the “traitor” and “you will pay” is from George. Dude sounds like a monster in the best way
It sounds really stupid and Sephiroth in Japanese is way better
@@aya8475 It’s hard to tell cause either you’re a 14 year old who is still struggling to understand that opinions exist and yours is just as shit as mine or anyone else’s.
Or you’re a fully grown adult who’s parents never taught how to NOT be an insufferable excuse for a human.
I was just saying something positive about the video dude. Miss me with your middle school attitude
@@aya8475 that is complete bullshit
@@Killer_Kris7 what is? Me saying that this game has an absolute trash dub?
@@aya8475 dude the old VA for Sephiroth sounds a lot tougher than the Japanese VA. And this is coming from a person who loves Morikawa
Imagine the overhauled graphics with the original voice acting for the fight. I'd honestly like to see a mod or in game option for something like that.
I did see a mod in nexus that does this. It’s not complete and the uploader is working on it but that will be the definitive way to play
@@eclipsion6728 It should also ironically be noted that there are plenty of videos being uploaded now that have brought over many of the original voice actors and synced them to the remakes cutscenes as movies.
Cody Christian is the PERFECT voice for cloud
Agreed
I always laugh when it says conflict resolved, meaning the opponent is dead.
"Conflict Resolved"
As Sephiroth kicks Zack down the metal stairs 😂🤣
13:54 “You were stronger.. smarter.. you’re better.. YOU WERE BETTER”
I love how no matter his mood, Sephiroth sounds so annoyed and done with everyone
The way Zack stuck the landing in the original was cooler in my opinion
This scene is not that bad compared to a lot of the other flat or off putting scenes with the new VA. But man does the original just blow it out of the water delivery wise
this is why i try playing the reunion in jp cuz i didnt have the chance to play the jp in psp
I feel like the director for the English voice acting definitely didn't give the right direction for how the characters should sound in scenes, because some scenes like this are pretty good, but others it doesn't sound like how the character would react after what they've been through (for example the final fight with genesis, Zack doesn't sound as annoyed as he should be more just confused) but I could also be basing how they should sound off the original game who knows. But yea it's obvious when they have the right direction the actors can actually sound good
@@theplatdream26 The inconsistency in the VA is what leads me to believe its not really a direction problem. How do they nail 90% of the cast and dialogue in Remake and completely fumble Zack and Seph in both Remake and the rest of the cast in CC outside of Aerith and Cloud VA.
Plus this is a remaster of a game that already had voice work. Had Caleb did his homework he would be able to understand the context of the characters and scenes to have the right tone in his delivery. To me I think its more of inexperience in voice over work than it is anything else. It’s not like Caleb Pierce is notable actor in GENERAL. The dude has almost no IMDB credentials in both live action and in voice work .
Maybe it's because I didn't grow up with original VAs my first experience with Zack having actual voice lines was in FF7R. But even looking back I've always preferred new VAs over the old ones. Especially in Sephiroth and Clouds case
@@ISoundMasterBlasterI Sephiroth did fine Imo, nobody can compare to newbern and that's a fact but the acting wasn't bad but also it is definitely directing, because Zack was honestly much better in intergrade ff7 remake and sounded much more closer to how we knew Zack. But in crisis core some scenes were questionable while more of the endgame scenes were voiced better.
I remember my first battle with him years ago. I thought I was supposed to fall off the bridge.
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Sometimes I regret playing Reunion on Hard Mode, this fight is such a difficulty spike. Even with HP Up++ maxed out, most of Sephiroth's moves in this fight are one hit kills
Just wanna point out that Cloud lifts up an entire Sephiroth using the sword thats through his gut, and this is BEFORE he was pumped full of Mako
i kinda hate that in reunion sephiroth doesn't have his eyes glow like they do in some parts of the cutscenes in this fight. also when sephiroth stares at zack and does an evil smile , yeah the new model looks better but his expressions is much less evil looking. in og crisis core his facial expression is pretty much " oh i'm gonna enjoy tearing you apart "
Does anyone know why they removed Jenova’s head?
@@asntsoldier9921 i've read everywhere that it's cuz of japan's new censoreship laws or something like that. really sucks
I personally like it, not for the fact that he has lost that menacing grin, but the fact that this sephiroth, the one who is still finding his truth, he looks so done with you, with humanity as a whole. He seemed like he wanted to crush you, with no questions asked whatsoever. He isn’t toying with you, but rather, really trying to murder you.
To give the remake credit, they got out of their way to voice clips that were originally silent, i appreciate that
İ just beat the remaster and i still can't get used to the new VA of Zack.
I can get used to just about everyone's new voice, but for Zack it just feels like to me anyway the voice doesn't fit at all for the character.
@@jacobfoxall5633 nor does Sephiroth's
16:33 Okay as much as I don’t like Zack’s new voice actor, I’ll admit when he says “Brace Yourself!” before Octaslash Lv.5, it legitimately sounds exactly like Rick Gomez. Like to the point where I thought they used an unused voice clip from the original or something.
There is a bug in reunion where the og voices will play because the og voice files are in the code, or it could be good acting.
The OG doesn't have that sequence before he does a power surge but I think it's definitely Caleb. He sounds good in short lines or lines where he doesn't have to copy Rick Gomez.
Although when he says "Out of the way!" when encountering enemies it definitely sounds like the OG sound file. Or Caleb just nailed that one too
Then you have moments like 17:28 that sound bad
Ii honestly prefer the PSP version so much more, don't really care for the new graphics I loved the art style of the original
same
Art direction, maybe, but animations and visual bugs didn't age well, including the part where Sephiroth gets stabbed by Cloud.
@@turbotrup96 Not to mention the gameplay, in that regard OG crisis core has aged like milk
I always hated this fight. It makes no sense canonically. Yes, Zack is strong and very, very skilled. But in the original game Zack runs into the room where Sephiroth is and then three seconds later he flies out of the room, hits the ceiling and the pipes and then lands backwards on one of the pods. He just gets decimated by Sephiroth in a matter of seconds because Sephiroth wanted him out of the way so he could have his reunion. I know in this game he's the hero, but don't change what was originally portrayed for the sake of building up the protagonist. Zack isn't supposed to be a match for Sephiroth, in fact, it makes Sephiroth look weak here. "YOU DEFEATED SEPHIROTH" ...It just takes the danger out of the situation entirely and makes him as an antagonist not seem as dangerous as he is.
When Cloud stabbed Sephiroth, it was an act of desperation. A last ditch effort to stop him. Also, Sephiroth going back into the room to stab Cloud is ridiculous. In the original, Cloud and Zack were ants to Sephiroth. Even after being stabbed he had a single focus which was getting Jenova out of there. He didn't care about anything else. These knats kept getting in his way though. It comes to a head when Zack tells Cloud to finish him off and Cloud runs after him and gets stabbed and then he throws Sephiroth over the side. When they portray Sephiroth as being petty enough to go back to the Jenova room to finish off Cloud, it elevates Cloud's presence which wasn't the point of the original scene. It was to show how a regular nobody finished off the great Sephiroth.
Reverse for me. It doesn't make sense that you're able to beat sephiroths stronger forms if your strongest party member and arguably the strongest characters outside sephiroth can't beat him in weakest form
Taking into account that here Sephiroth feels like a god, for a normal Human to stab him and confront him is already a great lack of respect...and don't look for logic, it's Final Fantasy please, I understand that sometimes there must be some logic but come on, this is Final Fantasy where a group of random people practically kill god being simple humans
Similar to FFX remaster they should have given us the option to use the original soundtrack. It's so much better
I agree
A lot of people hating on the remaster. The graphics were amazing, the VA was decent (true we didn't get everyone back but they did well), and the music was even better. They took a lot of the original music and mixed it with some of the newer stuff. Yes this soundtrack sounds amazing and you hear the original one winged angel however the newer version is much more dramatic as well as ominous. The choir and orchestra is very dark, showing a kind of desent into the villain we know and love. So nag at it all you like however they did well and if they redid Dirge like this I would also play it.
I’m a new fan, as soon as I booted up the game and heard Zacks voice I threw up. I played it all in Japanese and had a fun time!!
Orginal: "Cloud....Finish Sephiroth off...off"
Rebirth: "Cloud....finish Sephiroth...off"
Lol could they really not change it too
"cloud...finish....Sephiroth"
I honestly fell that they kept some cutscenes from the original game, if they can upgrade the summons why not the cutscenes.
I think the summons are more noticeably inconsistent in design then anyone in the original story cgi cutscenes, save for maybe the shinra infantryman who still have their pre remake uniforms.
Plus you see the summon animations constantly because they are tied to the DMW. They also redid them to be much shorter. May not have been worth the time and resources for Square to redo all of the cgi for a remaster, though obviously it would've been appreciated.
13:49
You were stronger, smarter....better! YOU WERE BETTER AAAAAAAAAHHHHH
the most anticipated video
let's keep in mind that at this point in the timeline, Cloud wasn't infused with Jenova Cells or inherited Zack's memories/skills yet, so the fact he was able to stand up to Sephiroth is all the more impressive.
And he managed to jump five meters high holding a giant sword. It must really be made of cardboard and aluminum foil.
Its been explained that Cloud didn't join SOLDIER because of his physical strength, he actually excelled in sword fighting. His issue was his mind.
They really made it look amazing, beat it on my switch then my series x lol
I wonder why they omitted her face on reunion, i was expecting to see it. That, and the loss of Sephiroth’s lines during his Octaslash kinda sucked. But still, overall, i loves the game, made combat way more enjoyable and less interrupted, as well as tedious.
too much censorship in this game, even jenova's face is covered.
And other than that, whatcha got?
@@bend.7590 idk i mean i hardly see blood splatteron their skin or clouds wound
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For whatever reason there's Whisper mist around Cloud and Sephy when they stab each other near the end of the scene, which is extra dumb when there wasn't even blood there to begin with in the original.
And apparently they covered Tifa's chest again near the beginning. Yet Tifa in this *same* outfit, in a flashback of this *same* scene, and any other flashback with the cowboy outfit, wasn't covered up in FF7R despite the covering up of her default outfit in present day.
@@espurrseyes42yea it’s odd now that you mention it but I didn’t even notice. Can’t say a 16 year old’s cleavage is all that important to me
Does anybody feel, Remaster sephiroth fight feel lot easier than psp or it just me lol, probably because of new gameplay system
I don’t care what anybody says, Sephiroth’s new voice actor absolutely murdered Newbern’s depiction in this entire scene.
Hoechlin comes off as a more natural voice, as opposed to trying too hard to being too anime. Hoechlin also comes off as more eerie, creepy, and menacing. Which is fitting for him initially losing his mind at this moment. I also think that his delivery is much better than Newbern’s in this entire sequence.
HOWEVER, I love Newbern, and I think his portrayal in Advent Children is on an entirely different level!!
I know I’ll get hate for this, but to be honest. After coming back after almost a decade to replaying this game, and then hearing Newbern’s portrayal in Crisis Core after hearing Hoechlin’s…..I couldn’t even get through Newbern’s.
I think people that say otherwise are just too nostalgia stricken and they’re just being blinded and petty always complaining about the new voice actors.
I think a lot of people overlook too that Newbern got some BEAST ASS FREGGIN lines in Advent Children. While Hoechlin has been very very limited by his lines in Remake.
Just my opinion…..people will hate on it, but after seeing Hoechlin’s portrayal in this with having pretty weak dialogue. I have no doubts whatsoever that he’s going to absolutely kill it in Rebirth. I can’t wait.
From an objective standpoint, the newer cast works better in almost every regard. I'm assuming it's mostly on the voice director but most of the old cast had barely any range going for them. Sephiroth, for example, had a good villain voice but in Crisis Core it never went away and it made certain scenes weird because it never felt like we were actually hearing him as a genuinely good person. On the other hand, Zack's new voice is certainly sub standard if not just plain bad at times but the other cast do great work in Reunion even with the shoddy script, something the old cast really couldn't pull off in the original. They old cast did good enough work with what they were given but they had plenty of faults, a lot of which probably wasn't even their own. Honestly, anyone saying the old cast is better really is just blinded by nostalgia
@@Soulferno Exactly!
@@Soulferno I grew to like Zack's new VA. Different as he may be, he still fits Zack pretty well.
L take.
@@espurrseyes42 L response, lazy with no actual rebuttal.
The glass breaking part looks better in the original imo
Apart of me thinks its pointless but another part of me wonders what would have happened if sephiroth revive jenova
Jenova was never dead... Divided in parts yes, but not dead. Otherwise she wouldn't be able to influence Sephiroth and Cloud.
This was stated in the japanese version of FF7 original, that after Sephiroth is thrown into the mako by Cloud, the Jenova's head he was clinging to, fuses with him as to keep sephiroth alive, which also results in the drastic change to his personality which is somewhat overwritten by Jenova (Sephiroth becomes a vessel for Jenova). In the end of FF7 original, the Jenova cells inside Sephiroth change his form into Bizarro Sephiroth and Safer Sephiroth (since Jenova can shapeshift). At the very end, the face off between Cloud and Sephirtoh is supposed to be happening inside Sephiroth's mind, now free of Jenova.
The issue was that despite the bad english translation of the FF7 Original, which makes it look like it's Sephiroth who actually comes to overpower Jenova's influence and becomes somewhat of a god himself, it was very well received, and they opted to cling to that version of the story... Maybe this allowed more flexibilty to the story, allowing them to write more and add more details? idk
Zack’s new VA completely kills all emotion for me. He’s so bad.
So is Sephiroth's
I love this game, played it for a PSP.
The only thing better the original had than the Remaster version was...... The VA.
And that's honestly Just about it!!! it is amazing and lives up too the original but better and the summons was hoping they would be just like remake where you summon them and they fight right besides you for a period of time!!!
Excited to revisit this scene again in Rebirth but not as Zack 😉
I feel like this should have come out between parts 2 and 3. New fans of the series might have played this first, and when part 2 comes out, they're going to get confused when Cloud self-inserts over Zack.
careful there, i think it is a minor spoiler
@@Heymrk that's what I was thinking too, Crisis core kinda spoils a major twist in the original and square said absolutely nothing about it lol
Sephiroth does only 5 hit on his Octaslash. When it should have been 8 slashes. As the name is literally caleed "OCTA"-slash meaning Eight slash.
Kinda hoped they fixed it in the remake. Or at least say Octaslash v5 or something. 😑
Nah. Sephiroth stopped octoslash
He anticipated zack blocking the last 3 remaining strikes remembering zack blocked some of his strikes when he used it.
Zack knows octoslash and can use it(Sephiroth DMW)
Or he just didn’t finish using it lol
You're all wrong. Since it's Sephiroth, each slash counts for 1.6 slashes. Times 5 that's 8. You're welcome.
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The Triple Slash his with the force of 2 slashes each.
Or the more reasonable thing, Sephy had to improvise due to Zack blocking the starter and would've done the move normally had he landed the hit clean.
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I Wonder if the black smoke that was in Sephiroth's and Cloud's wounds were supposed to be Destiny stopping them from dying
I thought this too when I first saw it. I think it could be that, or it could be that this is the starting point.
I’m currently going the play through 2 and will keep my eye out in case I’m wrong, but that smoke doesn’t show up in the earlier segments and anything past Nibelhiem.
Just like with Tseng at the end of Remake and Barret before Jessie and Wedge got sidelined (before Mako 5 went kablooie) neither of them could see the Whispers.
Maybe Zack couldn’t see them either.
If you go off the theory that Sephiroth - like Aerith - has prior knowledge of what is to happen, then I think (in my opinion) that’s why we only see it with Cloud and Sephiroth.
@@CriellaChant I did think it was Whisper magic in Remake, but I think it's just a convenient method of censorship in Reunion. It's similar to how the Jojo anime covered gore scenes in shadows.
Besides, Reunion was made to show new fans what was SUPPOSED to happen in the original series of events with Zach dying, so why involve the Whispers? Rebirth and Part 3 will hopefully explain why the Whispers were interfering with the events as early as Crisis Core.
can u do a side side comparison?
wtf the art direction when they're in Jenova's room is a bit steampunk cyberpunk, but when Zack falls the room suddenly becomes hi scifi. Hahahaha.
Consequence of og ff7 and crisis core being released 10 years apart. The steampunk vibe of the original kinda gets lost when they have to come up with new areas.
VA and the soundtrack from the first phase of the fight just aren’t hitting like before 😔
So only in hard mode does he summon those crystal things in reunion?
Zack fighting Sephiroth: High jump = dead in one hit
There wasn't even blood in the original. Why'd Square feel the need to add that ugly, off-putting smoke filter to censor something that wasn't even there to begin with?
Sephiroth must have somehow glued to that sword cause no way he was holding that sword with one hand and not letting go
Crisis Core Reunion, Nier Replicant v1.22 is what REmasters should look like but instead we get GTA Trilogy.
Bruh GTA trilogy definitive edition is a disgrace to every GTA fan.
Yeah yeah the voices are different, some good some bad- But why'd they change 'Controlling the Iron Beast' Tho? The original was perfect guys, you didn't have to!
Expecting the new voices to be exactly the same is crazy. They did a good job with the new actors. Cloud's great. Sephiroth sounds a bit softer than the OG, but it's overall the same. Zach is the most controversial since he lacks that big brother energy and the VA has trouble sounding upset, making him sound like a whiny kid during the dramatic moments. But for most of the game it didn't bother me since he did capture Zach's character as an energetic optimist, and Reunion has him do the last stand speech in the voice direction it was meant to have.
I agree, although the new VA for Zack didn’t get ‘everything’ down right he still did a pretty good job.
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I agree. And personally, i think it accidentally did a good job in highlighting that Zack hasn’t fully grown yet. He’s still learning, experiencing new things, and during his last stand, his voice finally takes that tone people want, showing that he perished at the peak of his growth
I’m finna be playing this in Japanese
I fought and beat him by spamming Hell Firaga doesnt take long lmao
Play hard mode then you'll know why it takes a while. Cause all Bosses basically beefed up over normal mode.
bro did an reverse attack
God the old combat looked so slow also the fact dodging and attacking didn’t have their own buttons looks confusing lol
Dodging did have its own button, square. Agreed on everything else though, playing Reunion is a huge improvement in that aspect.
Where did you get a new version of this Zack mods? (as in Remake/Rebirth version)
To this day I will never get over how badly this was jacked up in terms of voicing for Reunion. Some lines sound nice, then the others are from awkward to “HOW DO YOU FCK UP THIS BAD?”
I had Zack way overpowered by the time the battle occurred. No sweat taking down Sephiroth.
dude same, i had maxed dark blizzaga and was taking out the remaining bosses w like 8 hits and no damage. just spam the attack and i had max MP ++ materia
Why did they change Jenova's head in the remake? I knew I remembered seeing a woman's face in the original Crisis Core.
Did they just change jenova??
Because of new censorship laws in Japan, I believe. They didn't want to show a decapitated head. Yes, it sucks.
@@wishblade1 i hope pc version will be available soon so people can mod it to match with the original
Озвучка оригинала была лучше. Особенно озвучка Сеферота
Да, ко всему остальному можно привыкнуть, но Гомеза и Ньюберна забыть невозможно
С другой стороны в ремейке прямым текстом сказано, что с учетом концовки персонажи другие
something abour 'remaster' is kind of empty. is it switch version only that feel like this?
Did the helmet on jenova is a censor ?
Looks like it
They probably fully expect new fans who played Remake to end up playing Crisis Core Reunion immediately after and they either don't want to spoil Jenova's updated appearance yet or they haven't committed to one yet since Rebirth is currently being worked on. That's my guess personally.
@@ians_parks i hope you're right
I'm not much of a nostalgia goggle kinda guy so, I guess I'm just not seeing it. The remake sounds perfectly fine. Zack sounds annoying regardless lol...I mean it's like legit damn near the same. If anything the old one sounds more corny
Sephiroth sounds bad too
…am I crazy? Or does Zacks voice sound like Robin from teen titans?
as soon as i saw heartless angel. OH CRAP HES DEAD
Man both Zack and Sephirots' new voice actors are just horrible. Why did they replace them in the first place?
They recasted everyone because they seemingly wanted a newer younger cast to portray the characters going forward. They thought many of the og voice actors were becoming too old to portray younger versions of their characters.
@@ians_parks I find it a bit funny. Steve Burton voiced Cloud for over 15 years, but was recasted just as the remake was taking off. Think they'll recast the FF7 gang in KH?
@@chrisdaughen5257 Maybe. Assuming they continue to use them. Their presence in the series seems to be dwindling as they come up with more original characters to fill out the cast. Cloud and Sephiroth were absent and you only saw the hollow bastion crew briefly in the Remind dlc.
@@ians_parks I'd like to think Nomura is planning to finish the Cloud/Sephiroth plot in KH4. Their fight in KH2 probably took them to Quadratum and Sora will help Cloud find Zach.
Huh... I just realized, Cloud was looking for Zach since 2002, waaay before Crisis Core came out. Or maybe at the time they wanted Tifa to be the person he was looking for, before that changed in KH2 (they were probably developing Crisis Core by then).
PSP graphics is so ahead of time
I hope this entire scene gets remade in the remake properly with better directing ahit doesn't hold up at all
why didn't sephiroth let go the damn sword before being thrown away like that
did anyone max out dark blizzaga and just spammed it without taking damage after getting it. i did it for half the game and defeated sephiroth w like 8 hits and took no damage
Ramirez, the real mvp and a true first class SOLDIER
Goofy animation when cloud throw the sword with him
why didnt sephi let go of his katana
OMG, what did they do to Sephiroth's hair? it looks like a mop. where they this lazy to correctly render it? this is just sad
bro these new voice actors 💀
A lil change of dialogue but everything else is same
so what was enix reason for the black smoke instead of using blood?
Being dumb considering the original had no blood to begin with (assuming you're talking about Cloud and Seph stabbing each other).
@@espurrseyes42 I think the graphics are too advanced to just have them clipping through the characters like in the PSP version. It would look too awkward, but you can't use blood and they already had the smoke effect from Remake so they might as well use it. Although I thought the smoke effect was solely associated with the Whispers and whatever Sephiroth was in that game.
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Then don't have blood. Look at Dragonball and how they've removed blood from the show since Super. It'd still be better than using the Whisper smoke effect and implying their influence when, based on what was shown and stated about them in Remake, they shouldn't be involved in Crisis Core since the remaster isn't deviating from the original story and Sephiroth didn't become aware of the timeline until he fell into the Lifestream and started appearing in Remake.
Does anyone know why they removed Jenova’s head?
Does anyone know why they removed Jenova’s head?
comply with age ratings I think
Ok, as someone who has played both the games, i actually perfer sephiroths remade voice because before he becomes evil, his voice is lighter but than once he really becomes evil you can hear it in his voice, to me the original sephiroth obviously has emotion but his voice and tone stay the same throughout the original, the remaster VA does a better job IMO
He's not a monster, he's a conflicted man, he shouldn't just suddenly put on his villain voice because he became one
100% agree.
I think Hoechlin’s delivery is vastly better, and his voice comes off more natural, and at the same time has more eeriness, creepiness, and menacing tones.
Newbern is great, but honestly….after coming back and watching the original in this scene for the first time since last I played it (7-8 years ago). I couldn’t even get through it….
JENOVA literally had a face, now she just looks like a zombied version of Robocop
Original had way lower resolution. You are using emulator
Everyone's complaining that the new voice actors are terrible, I'm complaining that the story is the same.
Coz it's a remaster, Not remake
@@Kenhnau_reeves yeah, and Crisis Core has the worst written script (imo) of any post-PS1, save for Stranger in Paradise. Even Dirge of Cerberus has a better script, IMO.
still dont understand why sephiroth was holding the sword when cloud was holding it lol
22:59 Sephiroth: ah Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
*Fall to death*
In terms of the combat, Reunion absolutely DOMINATES. But if we had a choice to use the original and new voices, then that would've been amazing. Granted, I honestly don't mind the new voice for Zack and I've grown to love Cloud, Tifa, and Sepiroth's voices due to Remake.
I really wish for sephiroth to be 10 times stronger in this fight
why does sephiroth only do five slashes for his octaslash fuckin Zack does eight why does seph only do five 😭
Presumably, because Zack, due to knowing how to do Octaslash as a result of... whatever the game mechanic is called, was able to block the first hit. But Sephiroth's raw strength on that hit was enough to launch Zack airborne.
All around, this forced Sephiroth to improvise the technique, resulting in the version you see here. Sephy swings, Zack blocks but gets launched, Sephy chase him and lets off 3 more slashes, the 3rd of which launches Zack further upward and effectively breaks his defenses, allowing Sephy to land before jumping above him and coming down with one last, extra powerful slash.
Gosh, as a voiceactor myself I just have to get it Out; the voiceacting of the newer Version sucks ass in this scene. Aside from the stiffness and Lack of emotions they even geht the most Basic techniques a voice actor has to learn wrong. No Sense for tonality or which words to emphasize when. And yes there are Rules for that. Voice acting is Part Art and Part technique. Especially "Zack" makes me cringe in both Matters.
What a shame.
i prefer the original japanese voice cast.
The original voice actors are much better, and not gonna lie... Sephiroth looks a bit ugly in the remastered version.
Well this is the remake Sephiroth design. And remake Sephiroth was always ugly
ITS NOT A Remastered IT IS A REMAKE
It's technically both
DUHH SQUARE ENIX SAYS IT IS MORE THAN A REMASTER IT IS A REMAKE
ITS TECHNICALLY A REMAKE NOT A REMASTER
ITS A REMAKE THIS IS NOT A REMASTER SQUARE ENIX SAY THIS IS MORE THAN A REMASTER THAT MEANS ITS A REMAKE GET IT THOUGH YOUR HEAD
TECHNICALLY A REMAKE..
They change jenova?
I assume the covered her face for the remake timeline.
FFVII -LAST ORDER is better XD
Ugh the VA is so terrible. Clouuud finish Sepheeeroth oooofff
same
Geez! I think I could’ve done better job voice acting for zack than this guy did!
You probably could've done better as Sephiroth too lol
ff7 cc reunion featuring zack the hedghehog
Thank you. I thought I was the only one making that comparison. I keep imagining Reunion Zach saying "meow?" like in the first Sonic movie trailer.
@@chrisdaughen5257 Sephiroth's new voice is bad too
@@Killer_Kris7 He doesn't sound as deep, but people are bound to notice differences like that after a character gets re-casted after 15 years. The most important thing is that the new guy's acting is on the same level as the OG.
Censorship thanks to the Ethics Department. Ratings are pointless now when companies are internally censoring their games in order to globalize. In 2007, CCFF7 was Cero B (12+) in Japan and the overseas version was T for Teen. The scenes were uncensored and we got naked Jenova with nipple plus a fine looking Tifa. CCFF7R is Cero C (15+) in Japan and still Teen overseas. Now black smoke is added when stabbed, Jenova body hidden, head is altered, and Tifa has black piece of clothing blocking her cleavage when its the same outfit in FF7R proving that she's being targeted.
Do any of those things actually bring down the gameplay experience
@@playstationarusu It actually does reveal who the clowns are and you appeared as expected.
hahahhaha remake give your money
Can we all admit that cloud is a mary sue
In which part of the whole story?
@@QwertixV from the very beginning, cloud failed the Shira exam to become a first class soilder and ended up being a grunt. Now do you really think it makes any logical sense that sephiroth the strongest of the first class soilder would lose to cloud. Let's look at Zack he pass the Shira soldier exam and was trained by angeal and later mentored by sephiroth. zack was also able to bet both genesis and angeal and they was the second and third strongest first class soilder and Zack couldn't beat sephiroth, lets not forget sephiroth can easily bet them too. But not lets make someone who failed had not training, get stabbed through the chest and still able to lift up sephiroth with the katana and yeets him into a wall and that beats sephiroth. That's a marry sue an I'm not gonna pretend it's not. Now this part is a side rant for Tifa so she see sephiroth go on a rampage and kill everyone and her reaction is to hate everyone involved with Shira including Zack who didn't nothing to her she even says she hates him, so why when cloud shows up with Zack's sword no less and him bragging that he's a first class soilder she doesn't confront him about it.
@@turtle4493 actually you have a point. But og ff7 and AC also proves that Cloud isn't at least classic Mary Sue (like Barbie, Superman, etc)
@@turtle4493 Cloud does states in the og ff7 that he failed the SOLDIER exam because he is not "strong" enough to handle Jenova's cell. In terms of physical powers though, he is just as or if not more than enough to pass.
His victory over Sephiroth is also not all achieved by his power alone. Sephiroth himself is the one to blame.
1. He underestimate Cloud, a lowly grunt, and not noticing his presence allowing him to stab Seph with Buster Sword.
2. He underestimate Cloud for the second time and "allow" Cloud to lift him up, using his own sword, and throw him to the lifestream.
Which led us to Sephiroth made Cloud's life miserable as hell in the FF7. Like, more than half the things he done to Cloud doesn't contribute much to his plan
@@turtle4493 I completely disagree. Cloud is a wimp in this game and gets beat up a ton of times. And after stabbing Sephiroth he essentially gets killed for it while Sephiroth survives. He then goes into a coma until Zack dies and he experiences a psychological break that convinced him he is Soldier. He is shown losing to low level monsters as a grunt on multiple occasions, he fails to protect Tifa multiple times, gets slapped around by Sephiroth in Nibelheim and gets thrashed by a Sephiroth that’s bleeding out. He couldn’t look any weaker imo and I think he actually needed to be portrayed a bit stronger if he’s a believable protagonist in the sequels.
This reminds me of Nintendo Switch graphics vs everyone else. There are no reasons why Zelda needs to keep using shitty graphics
Bruh
What? What the fuck is this statement about? I'm confused.
Bruh
Assuming that you're using this game as justification why BOTW can look better on Switch, Crisis Core isn't open world whereas BOTW is.
Crisis Core even with new modern graphics still relies on linear hallways and short segmented zones because at its core its still a PSP game from 2007.
If you want graphics like this for Zelda on Switch expect it from a far less demanding title, like say a hypothetical remaster of Ocarina of Time in the same vein as this game.
@@ians_parks Your reading too much into this. This is a simple fact. The unreal
engine’s produced graphics is significantly better than the color cell shading Zelda games have done since Wind Waker. It’s a simple fact.