Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - Aeris / Aerith Ending Scene Comparison (Original CD 1 vs Rebirth)
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Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - Aeris / Aerith's Death full scene Comparison (Original vs Rebirth)
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00:00 Final Fantasy VII Original
07:41 Final Fantasy VII Rebirth 
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I just realized that Tifa didn’t speak for the rest of the game after this, yet I felt her reaction the most.😢😭
Damnit, Nomura.
I just really watched how you won the final battle and holy moly that was beautiful!!👏🏾
Neither should Aerith tbh. They ruined this game.
@@katseyegem5478for you maybe
@@katseyegem5478 ruined is a strong word. I think it was great, and they did justice for Aerith
The only part of Rebirth where they realized less is more. She represents the OG players ;)
THEORY:
11:53 - He is saying his lines from 2:40. They are muted, the scene scrambled between him talking and him saying nothing, because Cloud's mind, thanks to Sephiroth and Jenova's tampering, is blocking out what actually happened.
We WILL be seeing a runback of this scene in the final game. It will be added to the lifestream sequence of Cloud getting his mind put back together. Tifa will restore his memory of what he said to Sephiroth when Aerith died, and we will also see Cloud burying Aerith in the river.
I dunno, dude. You're putting a lot of faith into this junky remake.
@@Akanintnot junky at all. So unappreciative of the amount of love effort and care that the development team put into these games, they are incredible. Have faith
I have two theories now seeing this video yes he is saying that to him and we don’t hear the conversation cause later Cloud says he’s up north and Barrett says how do you know that he says soldiers intuition but subconscious remembers the conversation and my second theory is cloud killed Aerith cause in the original his friends stop him but here his friends are being held up outside and Jenova is messing with his head pretending to be Aerith but I don’t think the latter but I don’t know wth is up with Sephiroth and Aerith
How do you know this is confirmed?
I agree with this theory. I think they cut out the portion of her being laid to rest in the lake because cloud is so in denial, but they are clearly at that point when they are all looking at the lake.
its been more than 20 years, why does it still hurts?
Idk
Because Cloud Has Memories Of That Death
And Sephiroth Is Telling Cloud To Let Go Of The Past
Disse tudo..m
Aerith..............
...man. I really wanted to see Cloud carry Aerith out into that lake and put her to rest. I loved that part of the original.
Since this part is heavily focusing on clouds delusions, I think think we gonna see what really happened in part 3 including him carrying her to the water or his last words about her not being able the laugh and get angry etc. They save that for last
it'll be in part 3, cause at this point cloud can't cope with her loss he is blocking it out
@@niksoluUh, it ain't a delusion if Red_XIII also feels her touch. This games based on magic, spiritual stuff Force ghosts. If it's a delusion here, its a delusion when he sees Sephiroth, it's a delusion when at the end of Advent Children she plays with a group of kids and leaves. Cloud sees her. It's also a delusion that Kadaj reunites with Jenova, turning again into Sephiroth.
Make of it what you will, but the fact that Jenova turns into Sephiroth, or that the lifestream exists, and mako ghosts do, shows that people believe in certain types of delusions, and chuck other types of delusions away. This whole game is ridiculous and delusional at its most, and you're saying Cloud is delusional? This is irony at its finest.
@@eigelgregossweisse9563yeah aerith at the very end is real. But cloud in his mind thinks she's still alive.
@@eigelgregossweisse9563 thats the same thing i was thinking i think this game has some tie to the movie
In my opinion it is a point against because it was expected to generate an impact equal to or greater than the original, but it only generated more confusion.
I'm sure there's a lot to come. It is a trilogy after all.
@@bajocontinuo3 No :)
After so many years, I still don't see the point of this remake. It's incredibly nonsensical. I'm not that "NOOO THEY RUINED THE GAME" guy, the og game is not ruined, it's still there if you wanna play it, but this is just useless.
@@bajocontinuo3 I feel it is better if the current Square doesn't touch anything ahah they're so focused on making FF a mainstream franchise that they forgot what made this games actually cool
The original was simple and in its' simplicity, it was beautiful.
The remake tries too hard and puts too much in it. And in it, it creates noise and chaos that isn't beautiful.
They should have been faithful instead of trying to one-up the original.
I have no idea how it must feel if you've never played the original first and then you watch this.
Likely worse. She's more of a character in this one. Developed beyond her archetype.
And, if you've never played the original? The sheer weight they give the moment couldn't scream "Maybe THIS time you'll make it right" any harder. Those silly wraiths finally *work* , and it's brutal.
@@Pyreworse? people are gonna be more concerned with whether she’s alive or dead instead of mourning her death like we did in the original. they’re not gonna feel anything other than confusion
it’s confusing, beat the game today without ever playing the original, wasnt even hurt or sad, just hella confused after she kept coming back to life 😭
My gf watched me play remake and I thought it was a 10/10 but she kept asking me questions because she doesn't know OG. That made me change my mind. She watched me play rebirth as well but this time I kind of explained most of the og the differences as we went along so it's not a complete "no idea" viewing. But I think it's a good point tho. I think the remakes storywise must be really bad for someone that never played the og.
@@Pyre Worse because you've been robbed of a true experience. This reboot/sequel trilogy heavily relies on the fact that the player has consumed all media of FF7. The OG game, Crisis Core, Advent Children, etc. Without that knowledge people are just going to be confused. The whole point of the story changes for this trilogy is to surprise the fans who have played the original. The writer literally says so in the interview they have on Square's channel.
Poor Tifa she is always suffering the most and no one in the party acknowledges that, only Aerith knows and still she goes and checks on Cloud.
Tifa cant see aerith, that’s why she didn’t really say anything to tifa because tifa can’t see her. Only cloud can, probably because of the lifestream? Aerith always checks up on cloud because he’s mind is damaged and out of everyone in the crew cloud would not be mentally ok if he realized that aerith died. I still don’t like the way they did her death. They made her death confusing and complicated for no reason
@@banex_x8374 who know how the end will be in part 3..is aerith death unavoidable that no matter in many universe,she will die to save the planet..the only thing that cloud can see is the sky is spliting indicate the incursion of multiverse,zack dialogue with "see ya" with reunion and red can sense aerith with them..
Not only that, but at 13:10 Tifa also notices that Cloud holding Aerith in a romantic fashion, possibly thinking that Aerith is the one Cloud cares about, not her
@@iam4026 here y'all go. aerith, a person tifa has become quite close recently just died. you really think she's thinking about how cloud is holding her and whether or not cloud has romantic feelings for aerith when her lifeless body is there??? please, leave the ship wars out of this scene at least.
First of all Aerith loves Cloud. second of all , Cloud literally broked, he thinks she is not dead, he cant accept her death, he will go crazy if he will realize he will no longer can see her. Watch Advent Children, who is suffering because of her death, and who wants him to forget Aerith and accept her death forever?
To this point, Aerith could matches characters like Krilin, Kung Lao, Lancer, Inmortal and Kenny; for be killed several times.
they're great supporting characters welp they will destined to die but we will see the changes in part 3, Don't be confused about Sephirots wanting to combine the OG and Remake timeline in one with CC timeline also that's why Part 3 will be a big ending.
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2:19, Sephiroth just casually t-posing on Cloud.
As Aerith casually bleeding out in the side
Jenova actually
11:46 Sephiroth's "You actually thought you saved her? SIKE" laugh.
If you're asking why they didn't use Phoenix Down to Aerith, it's because they forgot to turn off the HARDCORE MODE (permanent death). It was too late for them to switch the difficulty. Even if they used Phoenix Down, she's permanently dead already.
I believe phoenix down just wakes people up from being unconscious not brings them back to life.
Phoenix down is for being knocked out not killed. Lol.
Phoenix Down wakes up people who are knocked out. That's why when a teammate loses all their health, the text says like "Tifa is UNCONSCIOUS" not "dead"
F for the peeps who didn't get it
U don’t die when u lose bro ur characters are literally on their knees so phoenix downs just gives them the strength to get back up. Being ran through probably hit some vital organs no pheonix down is gonna heal that. People need to know pheonix downs don’t bring people back from the dead if that was true why doesn’t tifa use one on her father 5 years ago.
Original: Abrupt, decisive and final
Rebirth: Shroedinger's Aerith
I think both Cloud and Aerith are now in a timeline limbo. The only reason why Aerith is still around and only Cloud can see her is because she's waiting for Cloud to "find himself". Once he's in that state, both Cloud and Aerith can wake up in the other timeline.
Or it all just in Cloud lehead.
probably post traumatic psycosis to see her wandering around still@@ronikhansynz595
@@ronikhansynz595That makes more sense
Yeah, I'm not sure what to believe considering Cloud's brain is really screwed up.
@@ronikhansynz595 that doesnt explain how Red can also feel Aerith's presence
Notice how both Whispers are pushing him away. She's both or neither a fate worse than death or a blessing in disguise?
I'm sure rebirth death scene was exactly one from OG. Cloud is shown saying something and though we don't hear what I bet it's his line "Aerith won't laugh again". OG Aerith who was hiding between worlds from OG Sephiroth ("so here's where you've been hiding") definitely planned something by dragging Cloud to her place and exposing herself like that. I don't think Cloud is hallucinating, he just sees two timelines at time, and probably they tricking Sephiroth into thinking he's winning or something. Anyway, it's not as simple as it looks like, we just wait and see.
Sounds great for a remake, right ?
@@jenpachi2408 I wouldn't prefer it any different no matter how much it hurts🥲
I think you’re right. Aerith was talking to him but only Cloud could see it at the time, making him look crazy. Sephiroth was saying that the timelines were coming together, and that’s what he means. We’re getting there, we’re just not there yet. Aerith knew it all along and is trying to tell Cloud that it will all be okay.
so aerith is alive?????@@rockmegently
@rockmegently I believe Sephiroth merging worlds once all physical Aerith are dead and her spirit is locked in between so she won't get to use Lifestfeam. so that's why Cloud and Aerith need to trick him. and their comatose versions in Zack's timeline are probably "empty vessels" so to say, in case they fail (since Aerith can manipulate worlds as well as Sephiroth she can drag herself and Cloud into there as a safe measure).
The original is so much better in my opinion one feels written by a writer who suffered from loss like many of us have or will do. A lot of fans overlook this as Aerith's death but it's so much more than that it's a thesis on loss and cloud's words portray that better than any character that comes before him. There's no big NOOOOOOO or cheesy fuck you one liners cloud is in honest shock and for the first time gripping with the reality of loss of someone close to you. Sure many had died at this point but none were as close to a loved one to Cloud, the beauty in the writing as Cloud like a Shakesphere play orchestrates to us what loss is, She'll never laugh, love, or cry again and now what will they do, as they are left to move forward only to suffer so much pain and for what? It captures how loss is just such an unfair factor of life and that we as humans crave an answer to balance the scales but in truth no scale is balanced when family or our loved ones die, they are just gone and we are left with emptyness. But then what elevates the scene to pure art is we get a scene after the boss fight of them being forced to have one last goodbye a ritual that is very common when someone close dies. Everyone says their last goodbyes with a few emotes leaving it vague but those who've been in a funeral can fill in the blanks then probably one of Cloud's biggest development of character is he picks her up and takes responsibility to make sure she get's her last wish, he returns her to the planet in the same water's her mother's materia fell into and honestly I can't imagine she'd want nothing more.
The original is more than Aerith died it's an art piece on loss and moving forward it's why so many games after have tried and failed to replicate this kind of emotion in a death, and only few have succeeded since then. Because they fail to see this isn't just the death of a character this is a thesis on loss.
It's what the remake lacks, the remake is a great video game but it suffers from trying to give fans what they want but also is written by someone who takes a more anime approach to writing, basically flashy big fights in every corner no time to sink in the difference between taking a nice walk (the original) and taking a plane and crashing it to the finish line. Don't get me wrong I love anime and I love modern jrpgs as video games as much as old ones but the new one lacks the same emotional pull cause it focuses just on the "action" Aerith dies maybe. Rather than what the original scene's message was.
Giving Nomura complete creative control was always going to result in an inferior story. The dude is a hack. He likes to write superfluously complex stories just for the sake of it, to flex how great of a writer he is. Kingdom hearts is a perfect example of that. Modern square cannot replicate the success of the OG series 1-10, and they never will because all the people with actual talent are gone from that company. It's sad, but it is what it is I suppose. Now instead of writing a compelling and moving story that they hope will reach peoples hearts, they are remaking a story because it is easy money.
@@nickp8041Nomura said that they should keep things close to the original as they could and he isn't involved into the story decisions of Remake.
The blame goes to Nojima and Kitase, of course, Nomura's influence certainly is all over it but it wasn't the guy himself doing so.
With that said, you're right about how Square Enix's writting went afther FF10, most of the actual talented people lost their abillity to write stories or left.
Modern SE writting is just Kingdom Hearts but with different levels of edgyness or pretentiousness depending on the game, and in cases they completely butcher the product so they can milk it more like FF XV.
@@nickp8041 Square-ENIX is shamefully destroying what *SQUARESOFT* created.
@@Zerorenren4761 you mean Squaresoft not Square-ENIX after ff`10
Also I Can See Them Pulling A 180 And There's A Smaaaaaaaallllll Chance That We Will See Lucrecia FULLY Aware Of Her Son's Actions And Awaken
I understand a lot of the criticism at the ending... it is more convoluted than it needs to be, however, I think it makes sense that it is. The last death Cloud faced caused him to create an entire warped reality for himself to live in because he couldn't handle it, especially with mako poisoning. Now, faced with another death while having his mind manipulated by Jenova, it makes sense for Cloud to do something similar and I think that's what we're seeing in the ending
just caught myself wheeping
Would be more dramatic if everyone on planet earth would just shut up about it
It Would Be Cool If They Referenced This Iconic Death Scene With Kairi Praying At The Water Alter In A Keyart For Kingdom Hearts 4
@@haileeraestout5567 she already died by xehanort we don’t her to die aerith style
So cloud killed aerith and the internet is gaslighting for this many years is funny
@@Huckmon365 No I Mean This Would Be Her Way Of Communicating To Sora And She Wont Die
The first one just hit different but they both had me crying so WELL DONE!!!!
why she still alive...?
@@gimo6881 She isn't. Anything after her being killed by Sephiroth, that is her spirit within the LifeStream.
Is there the scene where Cloud buried Aerith at the lake in Rebirth?
@@fadlihermawan9123 no thats what takes away from the moment to me
@@dreamydonno a
"Yup. Sounds good" LMFAO CLOUD WHAT
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I guess it's because his mind was a bit messed up then. Normally, no one would react like that in such moment, but he went through some mind-collapsing stuff, so I guess that's why he acts in such a way.
I think he said that because he made a timeline where aerith didn't die, there's no reason to be mentally broken. Somethings definitely goin on here but we're just gonna have to wait and see what it is
he thinks he saved her and that she's okay. he's the only party member who hasn't processed her death at all and he's the only one who's able to still see her and communicate with her somehow so ofc he's not gonna be mourning because he thinks she's alive. i think part of it has to do with his mind being messed up and him possibly being in denial of her death but it might also have to do with the whole timeline stuff. i think once cloud stopped sephiroth's blade in that scene he managed to save her in another timeline. the whole timeline stuff is still pretty confusing but i think basically she died in this timeline but is alive in another timeline, something along those lines.
At first I thought it was like Joel's emotional "yep" to Ellie in their last conversation but then I saw Cloud was smiling after replying to Barret and not crying instead and thought oh no, honey. You poor sweet thing. 😭
there were so many moments with cloud where I had that reaction. like when Aerith had her whole speech after the trials and cloud just says something like "are you done?" I was like "CLOUD! NO, BAD." 😂
10:49 100%, that scene is OG FF7. It’s at this moment that the timelines crash into one another. Remake Cloud is experiencing the events of the OG here. While also experiencing the event where he successfully blocks Sephiroth
@@cicopath no. I don’t think so. Sephiroth has been waiting for this moment because it is at that point in the story of OG FF7 and Rebirth where extreme emotions take over and he is able to use that against Cloud. Notice how from Tifa’s POV, Aerith is dead.
I like to think this symbolizes the moment where Aerith is essentially taken from this timeline and goes to another. We see later on that the fight with Sephiroth, when she steps out of the portal, is actually Aerith from the OG game. She tells Cloud “I saw what you did for me, Cloud. Thank You” Referencing the fact that she saw a timeline as well where Cloud blocks Sephiroth. The evidence here is Sephiroth’s own words: “Well well, I seem to have underestimated you” and “So this is where you’ve been hiding”
Also, notice how her Materia is White again. But in Rebirth, her materia was empty as it was revealed during Costa Del Sol
@@cicopathand also, one last thing. Notice how, right before the distortion when you can see Aerith still alive and praying, the floor is colorful. When it transitions to what looks to be OG FF7, the floor is not colorful anymore. And when the shot transitions so that we see Aerith dying, it’s once again colorful. I think the colors here are key. It seems that Rebirth Aerith and OG Aerith essentially swapped places here.
@@cicopath exactly. I think that’s what happened. The moment Sephiroth kills her in the OG Timeline, Aerith does a last second action that allows her to essentially swap bodies with another Aerith in a different timeline at the same exact point of time (while praying for Holy). Which in this case, would be Rebirth Aerith switching spots with OG Aerith
@@dr.edwardrichtofen365I think when she says I saw what you did I think she’s talking about putting her body in the water but we didn’t see that cause cloud is hallucinating and future ghost Aerith wants him to think she’s alive but in reality both Aerith are dead the one in rebirth and the og one from the same place that Ghost future Sephiroth is from I don’t think it’s a timeline but the inside the lifestream where memories are manifested into a world and the place Aerith was hiding was Bigg’s memories aka his world a world that accepted it end how Biggs accepted the end when he dies
@@dr.edwardrichtofen365
This is fascinating
This is the least confusing theory I've seen so far
To what end do you think or are you not sure?
I think it cheapens the loss when Aerith sticks around after her death.
I don't think so...I think it kinda makes it sadder, she is there, she is watching them, but she can't be with them, she is gone in one way or the other, and the point of remake is that she was always gone, since the first game she already knows that she'll die eventually...
I don't have a religion but I guess that's how it works when someone passes away, sometimes you pray, and you even might think you can talk to your loved ones, but they will never truly be by your side again.
yeah it definitely does :(
@@raulsouza5866 but real loss is just that loss. Sometimes sudden and extremely tragic. No possibility to say goodbye, no talking with that person and making sure they're alright. The fact that she stayed around for Cloud and saw the remaining party off just takes some of that real sting away. It is a real, deep, traumatic thing to go through.
@@raulsouza5866 also in the OG Aerith was really just gone after her death. The party nor the player had any sort of consolation about her well being or whereabouts. That's a lot more like what real loss is.
Yes. It's like Square Enix really was trying to please both sides of the fandom. The ones that wanted the original death scene, but also the "alternate universe" where she is also dead but might-not-be-since there-are-other-realities ending. I would just like a straight answer, but we will have to wait 3 or 4 more years for it.
I enjoy both endings. The new one is more cerebral than pure emotion it makes you think about the afterlife and loved ones that are gone but still with you. Honestly both are good in their own way. But I can understand not enjoying the new one because of how much extra stuff they through in not just that it's different if you were really fond of the original and nostalgia keeps you from enjoying the new one.
Am i the only one who understood this as showing two different timelines? I mean. They show her survive and they show her die.
Or just Cloud imagination.
Nope, you are not. It's kinda obvious.
Starting 13:00 if u pause it shows two events one where there is no blood behind aerith and another one that there is blood
@@mariocruz591 Or that what Cloud mind does to protect him from the harsh reality like what it did with Zack death.
no, It's clearly showing that Cloud's mind if fragmenting. None of the other party members are acting like they are on a different timeline they are al mourning Aerith death cloud is the only one who thinks Aerith is there with the rest.
Tetsuya Nomura with his usual confuse-the-player shenaningans
Yeah really getting tired of seeing those "Whisper" things
Nomura isn’t even directing this game
@@jamrah8713 not director, but creative director. Meaning, the foundation and vision he left in directing Remake is still there
@@alexwidodo4027Nojima is the one writing the story, Nomura is the one who wanted to stay true to the original in Remake while others wanted to change it even further.
@@alexwidodo4027 I think it meants he's the one who handle creative elements for the game rather than the scenario writer/designer. I'd imagine things like how the headache and flashbacks were scened are his to handle.
I’m so disappointed by what they did in Rebirth. I wanted to cry like in the original but I was just confused ! And when I realized what truly happened, it was « too late » to cry. Aerith died and I felt … nothing. How could they miss this moment ? There are many moments in Rebirth which made me cry but the saddest of them was completely missed…
I cried more when Jesse died
I think it’s to reflect what cloud is feeling. If you’re thinking about it, Cloud is still seeing Aerith and even in the end, he still think she’s not dead and is not traumatized that much. On the opposite, everyone else is cleary in grief so in my opinion, the scene in rebirth is maybe to makes us feel « like » cloud.
@@Hamtarooooo yeah that’s what I think too ! But, nonetheless, it totally ruined the emotion of the scene for me. I didn’t feel moved AT ALL and I still hope that maybe in part 3, when Cloud will realize what really happened, we have a new scene to show the « real » death scene of Aerith.
I cried more by Dyne's story than this. Where was Cloud's breaking moment where he says, "Aerith will no longer talk, no longer laugh, cry... or get angry..." from the original?? That would have hurt to watch and it was a missed opportunity.
I cried when the white materia fell.. like.. wtf.. how cant you realize? You people are over-exeggerating or being too dumb.. anything of both
One error that people point out in the OG Aerith’s death was that the floor was black and white checkered initially, before it switched to a single colour.
But if you look at the bottom at 1:43, the checkered pattern is still there. It’s just that the light coming from the water reflection is too strong and covered the floor patterns
I wanted to see the original speech from Cloud and the carry to the lake done in Rebirth so bad….. but no, we didn’t get that. We got some multiverse bs. I don’t get it man. I really don’t.
I bet that you will have it in part 3 ;)
So let me get this straight:
Aerith gets stabbed by Sephiroth. That much, I was expecting. But the fact that she LIVED long enough to reassure Cloud threw me off, but it makes sense because in reality, a stab like that wouldn’t be an instant death. Then you get to fight Sephiroth ALONGSIDE Aerith, albeit in spirit form?! That’s what confused me.
maybe it’s aerith from another timeline, not a spirit form. tho this ending was so confusing that i can’t be sure of anything 😵💫
Aerith In Spirit and Alternate Timeline Aerith are each viable possibilities. I think it's also possible that both are technically true if it turns out this is actually a very complex time loop instead of the Back to the Future scenario Sephiroth thinks it is. However, I am leaning toward this Aerith being the one that traveled with this Cloud because the final boss involves all the playable characters in Rebirth coming together to defeat Bizarro Sephiroth.
Two reality was overlapping with Aerith, one death one alive.
@@PhoonBucgeneMY This.
This is Nomura we’re talking about. Nothing surprises me anymore
So when this is over up until part 3, are we expecting a Stand User Cloud with Aerith’s as his Stand?
Aerith being a ghost only Cloud can see reminds me a lot about Ardbert Hylfyst being a shade that only the Warrior of Light can see and interact with.
Most people: This remake sucks, what are they doing!?!?!?
Me: Yo, this sequel is fucking insane, I love it!
So far I'm loving the sequel! 10/10
Yeah I like it I love it I like how they are just shifting it to 11 with how cloud’s mind is messed up I was worried they were not gonna not to that after the remake cause they saw future events and he was fine I like how they kinda left Aerith death seem like who’s right is cloud crazy is she real is she from a future is that advent children Aerith and Sephiroth is there really a multiverse or are these memories of the dead kept in the life stream and Sephiroth is half of not this world and can never truly join the life stream but wants his memories to be the reality and that’s the world he wants to join and make real who’s in the Northern crater sleeping is that Sephiroth aware of what’s happening is he even in control of Jenova or is it Advent Children Sephiroth overriding his control of Jenova is Aerith pretending to be alive just to help cloud bare with it or why were the white whispers keeping them from reaching her did Sephiroth want her to live or did she want cloud not to save her so she can summon the lifestream to help holy is there a reason why someone wants cloud to think he saved her in a different world and what’s with Zack is he really alive or is he also just a memory
I like it but the ending sucked.
Most people loved the game and the ending. It's just that almost everyone who disliked it ends up commenting about it a lot more
@@Maverick.D. it sucked if you cant cope wirh changes.. after 2 days.. i find it genius
Ok I get the outrage from fans in regards to Aerith’s death scene, I’m ticked at how we were baited and she ended up dying anyway. I think people are just pissed that things were hyping up with the probable chance of saving her. I’m okay with how things went after some time has passed, we still got a DLC story update and the third game to tie it all together. Listen we all asked for the remake ever since PS3, we’re getting it now and we should all wait until the third game to really determine if it was all worth it. I’m amped to see what they got planned
Actually I would've preferred if she dies again. What I'm angry about is how they turn Aerith into this ghost only Cloud can see. Like dude, if you want to kill her just kill her. If you want her to be around for Cloud then let her live. I hate this half and half state she's in
What do you mean dlc story update???
I was okay with her dying. I just think how the death scene was delivered to us via Rebirth was a huge dissapointment. It was unclear, confusing which took away from the emotions imo. I didn't want her to live perse, I wanted to relive those emotions again in HD. But the death scene itself lacked impact. There was no dropping her in the water scene, there was no actualy stabbing?
It was still an amazing game. Just bummed out by the end. But lets see what it still brings.
@@matthiassneyers2627 actually I'm on the camp for Aerith surviving since it would be an exciting new story. But even then I still like her dying more than this "maybe" bullshit
@@straypaper "confluence of realities" as sephiroth stated means the merging of said realities, as I'd call the in-between. It was implied that it was one way for Aerith to hide from Sephiroth, as we do not know the repercussions of her living and what means he'd use to finish her off. (I'm not sure what story significance her dying has anyway other than adding a "driving force" that wouldn't have changed Cloud and Co's goals regardless of her state).
There is 1 thing that’s 99999% worth celebrating about in Rebirth.
Unless they drop the ball massively in Part 3, everything seems to point that Cloud should be able to handle the “loss” of Aerith a lot better.
In FF7 OG this was a hole in the heart, which is fine because of the themes of the game.
But then on the compilation, we see that years later on Advent Children the tragedy still hurts him.
Now on Rebirth, it’s clear Cloud is on some mighty but technically accurate COPIUM. But between all the madness of Chapter 14, the idea of multiverse gives rise to the possibility that Aerith might come back by using the body from another dimension like the one that’s sleeping on 1 dimension.
Anyways. To end this essay. FF7 OG created an iconic moment of loss. FF7 rebirth created an action moment that confused many who don’t pay attention to the story, which isn’t to hard to see considering the liberties they are taking on “final chapters”.
This hurts more then ever can’t get over this
13:11 the confusion in Tifa's face as she saw Aerith's two different incapacitated state. I wonder if she's now also got affected by the Lifestream when Cloud throws her into the green water.
I honestly found it weird why from Tifa’s point of view there’s still so much abrupt switching between scenes as if it were still Cloud’s POV
I dont think thats Tifa’s POV. I think Cloud sees and hears Aerith talking to him but everyone else sees her already dead and with the blood. Cloud doesnt.
@@ISoundMasterBlasterI if you play every one starts the battle whit limits on except Cloud,
Every one is angry for Aeriths Dead,but Cloud can't see, in he POV he thinks he save her
I THINK. 😅
I don't think Tifa was seeing her alive. I think that part was showing what Cloud was seeing (the split realities) and what everyone else was seeing (her dead) at the same time. if it were from tifa's pov, she would've been able to see the tear in the sky when cloud said to not look up at the end.
sice kalm there is a few key moments that indicates that rebirth tifa seems to know baout the OG timeline. probably due to the timeline converging. much like how marlene has dreams about sephiroth appearing to kill aerith in the alternate timelines
The original plot is better. I don't like how this new version adding confusing twist like alternate timelines and stuffs. It just took away the powerful emotions the original had. Also I feel the production team added way too much fan services for the player (personally I feel they tried too hard to make the girls characters to be loveable, like leveling up their cuteness way too much that it feels unnatural. Sometimes I feel Aerith and Tifa act more like an idol than regular girls) and extra characters that I think don't serve much purpose (like the motorcycle guy, Roche who I think only there to be a "cool" villain type of character).
Well you know IT'S JAPAN
The old version hit harder, but may it be the developer’s intention in the first place to make Aerith inevitable death less painful?
Square Enix ruined one of the most iconic scenes in gaming with confusing multiverse/timeline shenanigans. Thanks, Nojima. And also to our good old pal Nomura for laying the groundwork.
Man idk but these whispers are super annoying man. Couldve leave them out of the both games
yeah and they had to give them super unfitting overly dramatic music... you're supposed to save the dramatic choirs for things like Safer Sephiroth, not random silly ghosties that you kill loads of and basically make the plot idiotic.
i swear the writers of the new one got lost in their own insanity time stream issues. sorta just misses the key points imo
Well, so much for me staying away from spoilers 🙃
Let's ruin everyone's childhood by removing the iconic scenes of the games
you’ll live
the original still exists
let's have dog water take by forgetting this is a trilogy
@@fleeplayTV your waited all your life to make that comment?
The jumping animation in the OG is too cute tho.
17:32 Holy shit! He's doing the same pose as Riku from KH games.
I really, REALLY don't see this ending in a satisfying way, this whole mess of what if timelines feels like it's just gonna fall off the rails at the end, no matter what explanation they give it's not going to be satisfactory. Don't get me wrong, I'd love it to end nice and neat, but at this point I don't even feel any kind of purpose or direction behind this story other than the lingering sense of "wtf?".
Knew that is was still coming, still balled my eyes out
I use quite a lot of Final Fantasy tracks when i run D&D with my friends so ima need these tunes at my earliest convenience
Such a shame. Lost all its impact and just confused the fuck out of most people.
19:42 Oh my God... They play The Price of Freedom!
What I get is that the Cloud that parried Sephiroth's attempted stab is a new timeline that was opened up where Aerith was saved, and that's the Aerith that Cloud keeps seeing.
Me: “I dont wanna see any spoilers!”
Also me: *knows the entire story of ff7 already*
Whole game has been ruined for me by RUclips, was so excited about this game since 2020
Sadly I'm almost certain I won't play the rebirth game so I'm happy I got to view my childhood in some way thru here even this sad scene 😢
The original, despite its poor graphics, was and is one of the most shocking, devastating, and irreversible moments in video game history (or cinema or all of literature, for that matter)
The remake is (good?) graphics. And nothing else.
Trust me, guys - I WANT to love these remakes. But there is some serious hype Kool-Aid being drunk here that is blinding 95% of the opinions I’m seeing….
Except they aren't actually remakes, they're sequels disguised as remakes.
Og aerith dies
This remake: King Crimson!!
It's that a fkin Jojo reference!?
They know how to hurt you. Was tearing up while fighting Jenova.
I remember the fight scene after the death, and being in so much emotional pain, i took it all out on this fight scene!
I find it incredible that the original manages to convey a much more meaningful message by saying considerably less. Rebirth plays like a convoluted anime main arc that never quite gets the message across.
FF Remake - "We killed Fate, now events can be different."
FF Rebirth, retroactively killing Aerith immediately after saving her - "Oh, that was because of 'Timelines converging'."
Me, peeling back the sticker that says "Timelines converging" and finding another sticker underneath that says "Fate" - "hmm..."
Me, peeling back the sticker that says "Fate" and finding "Things the author decides should happen here, regardless of anything they've established before or after" engraved on the surface - "There it is!"
so there is no scene where cloud putting aerrith to the water?
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Both scenes are incredible... masterpiece
They had to go so over the top with every single thing in the remake lol
Well, when it's a sequel disguised as a remake, that tends to be the case.
For me it is more than certain, the Sepiros that we see is already one that supplanted the original, apart from the false Sepiros of course, only this is an original Sepiros but it comes from a line where he already lived all this and that is why he always knows that do and looks like he knows what's next. In fact it is likely that there are 3 Sepiros, the fake one, the real one and the real one that comes from a future line (Advent Children? Maybe.)
as far as I'm concerned the original scene is 100 steps above in terms of direction and it's a shame that you didn't put the reactions of all the characters in the party but only Tifa and Barret, for me the best are those of Tifa and Yuffie (the worst he's the one who sits because he's being an idiot) and then I love the dialogue between Sephiroth and Cloud, it perfectly represents the message this story wants to give you.
that of the rebirth left me with nothing, indeed only bewilderment and confusion at how badly it was managed
100% agreed. What makes the OG really punch you in the gut is Cloud's answer to Sephiroth's hard logic.
No matter how sad and graphically impressive that close-up of Cloud's crying face looks, it's nowhere near as emotive as the players knowing how he is processing the loss. His words convey what her death means in a tragically simple, almost childish way that just pulls at your heartstrings:
"Aerith is gone. Aerith will no longer talk, laugh or cry... (...) What are WE supposed to do?"
I'm not saying word by word quote would have worked in this scene, but having him stay completely silent is a bit jarring. There were other important omissions like the musicless section that gave the original an incredible sense of eeriness, and Cloud letting her body go in the pool which brings an odd sense of closure.
@@takkun3237 It makes me laugh enough because they made the whole scene look like shit, ruining it with a vomiting amount of fanservice bordering on the ridiculous with the addition of kh bullshit... if you think about it, in the remake they put the phantom of kh1 (without the arms) and he is practically a secret boss and in rebirh they always put the phantom but in the final mix it is in fact white.
then the funny thing is that Dyne's death is done very well... maybe because there isn't that kh bullshit.
this rebith is perfect until you put the kh component, the nomura compilation thing since they put glenn and it was avoidable (in itself he's a shitty character with a characterization equal to a toothbrush, thank goodness they didn't put the others two...I don't even remember their names) and zack for the pure sake of doing badly done fanservice.
if you remove them the remake is perfect.
The way this is portrayed may seem to be different from OGFF7, but they actually closely parallel to one another and make complete sense, whether you think that’s the case or otherwise. Cloud’s mind is long gone here and he is not able to tell what is real and an illusion. In fact, he has always been able to see Aerith after her death, even in Advent Children until he forgives himself and finds his resolve is he finally able to move on. I can guarantee you we will be seeing Aerith as a force ghost in part 3, which evidently, the same thing happens in the original game at the end.
a force ghost? "let the hate flow thru you."
@@yochp9693 No As We Heard From Aerith She Admitted To Us That She Never Even Learned To Pray
@@yochp9693 And She Was Doing The Prayer Wrong
@@yochp9693 So That Resulted In Her Ending Up DEAD On Accident Aerith Was Just A Girl Who Gotten Herself In A Unescapable Situation But It Was That Materia Made Her THINK She Was A Cetra But Wasnt
Really A Cetra So Its The White Materia That Allowed Her To Hear The Planet And When She Removed It
She Was Unable To Hear The Planet But The White Materia Was The Last Pure Materia
time ghosts force ghost, ....multiverse...but they live in other timelines dont be sad bro....worst writing ever
Sepheroth just t poses for a solid minute after
Did anyone realize Cid was humming the ending credits song to Final Fantasy VIII while they’re working on his ship at 26:00 minutes in this video?!?!
Thats the main theme of all Final Fantasy
As someone who played both OG and Rebirth, I can't lie that Rebirth's direction on how they handled this scene left me with baggages of confused and somewhat disappointed feelings. It's bizarre, considering when i first played OG, i was unfazed when Aerith was killed. Little me thought "just give her a pheonix down, what do you mean she died?" I didn't really care that much about her character. But playing both remake and rebirth, experiencing meeting Aerith again for the first time, the rooftop hopping moment, and all other moments with Aerith really helped flesh out her character and gave players great moments to build that bond with her. The buildup up until "the" scene, gave me anxiety and I was prepared to cry my eyes out as I anticipated her demise. But once it came, I was left confused and blueballed. It barely allowed time to sink in the moment and grieve, and immediately went to a rush of fighting boss after boss. It was bittersweet, and not the way I wished for it to be. Regardless, Remake and Rebirth are phenomenal games for bringing immense joy to this gamer. I just wish the director of Rebirth gave players more time in the cutscene to feel the sorrow and impact of the loss of Aerith instead of adding all the confusing moments with cloud and Sephiroth.
square now has to put timelines in everything?
Nomura must pay for what he done to the plot of ff7
Da fuck did he do? He's not the writer.
@@Aaron64589 he is the fucking diretor
He was the one who was holding back the multiverse bullshit
I never felt so hypted up fighting jenova in rebirth, the way they cut to that so quickly, being an action game, that was such a moment of connection. Bravo, SE!
One of the best remakes ever omg lol can’t wait till part 3
If they decided to add confusing multi universe, might as well given us chance to save her. Its just making so fking confusing
the og so much better, rebirth is confusing, too unecessary extended
And now to wait another 3 years ahhhhhhhhhh
Since OG FF7 and FF7AC I've always thought Cloud suffered from hallucinations, but was able to function. I still think he does, but now I think some things he sees are real, wich makes interesting to figure it out
16:17 Sephiroth really miss Sora with that line 😅
original feel more melancholic, even aetith's keep playing on battle
1:18 "FOR SPACE KING! RAHHHHHHHHHHH!" "the HOLY GOBLUES!!!"
Can’t wait to see omnislash in this game I wonder if u will still be able to do the lucky 7 attack too
They they screwed almost every core important scene in the remake and rebirth thanks for pointing it out
They took too many liberties with rebirth. Changed too much for me to want to keep playing the next part.
I'm sure that the Remake will shown this exact situation on the 3rd installment.
To actually hear Sephiroth speak to Cloud after killing her, shows he is an antagonist. Adding to the situation by mocking him in that tone.
The original hits harder
Classic all the way, just hearing that track alone is a flood of non-cinematic extra shit goodness.
Plus no dumb spotlight grabbing eardrum-bursting VA.
Scene has no weight at all in the remake.
Man... The Original One never failed to make me Cry... Rebirth version not bed... but i dont know... cant touch my feeling... out of my expectation... Sad 💔
The fans of the classic game are playing with our feelings, giving us hope that in this version Aerith will survive.
..just how many timelines.. does this game have... like is Zack alive...or dead in Cloud's timeline is Aerith Dead or alive in Zack's timeline god this is confusing
The original said so much with so little. The feels are still there, but nowhere to be found in the remake.
Dunno, but I am starting to think Cloud does not really realized that Aerith is gone. This ending might look confusing now, but later on with the final chapter surely things will start to make more sense, I suppose
i don't get what's happening at this point. is she alive or was she dead from the beginning? also what's the connection with zack?
They bungled it hard. The rebirth scene had zero emotion
Cause we will get THE scene in part 3 once his memories are restored and there it will be impactful ending on a mystery is what gets me hyped since I’m a patient individual
Wow, how can a straight and clean animation of sephirot falling, sword in back, aerith death became SO garbage in this new one?
All those fucking ghosts they invented which are annoying since always, Cloud parrying the Sephiroth sword and tossing it aside.. some darkness then light, then out of nowhere Sephiroth grabs sword with blood? SE should sue who wrote this, really.
No tossing dead body in water later, and ghost sticking togheter after death lessens the death by a lot.
オリジナル版がどれほど良いか。
「科学技術の発展が進歩をもたらすとは限らない。」
「新しい作品が優れているとは限らない。」
これらのことを思い出させてくれます。
I feel we'll see all the real conversation between Sephi and Cloud when Aerith deads in the Northern Cave cause Cloud will know the truth, Part 3 gonna hurts from the beggining🥲
I don't even know how the managed to screw this up so badly, I was ready for them to just save her becasue happy endings and stuff, and I wanted them to just stay the same as the original with Cloud learing he just can't save her and getting the development he has in OG.
Yet they managed to pull up more Kingdom Hearts bullshit, like, they just wanted to be unpredictable or something, basically ruining the entire moment and spitting on Aerith's death for nothing.
Screw you Square Enix
I think our confusion represents Cloud confusion as well. He will descend to madness further next game.
Aerith is destined to die no matter what intervention is done.
Cloud is going crazy
I'm just holding onto the hope that we see Aerith's original death scene in the third game/Reunion, when Cloud finally realizes the truth. The only two times I can see it happen (if they try to remain close to the original) is before the North Crater or at Mideel... but I'm still confused about the Black Materia.