Cool video. It'd be interesting doing a revisit in a year once he has some good gravel experience and see what he thinks then regarding tubeless, suspensions, tyres, gears etc. 30mm travel fork seems strange to me. If you go to all that trouble, just put a proper XC 100mm fork on it? I wouldn't think it'd really weigh much more and you'd take advantage of all the R&D from the last 30 years of XC world. I'm looking at a gravel bike and I'm seriously just thinking of just buying an XC bike. Put aero bars on it like you did and you get pretty much the same aero position for flats and road, but you have decent suspension and proper tyres if you want to tackle downhill sections.
I think a 100mm fork would scare off someone looking for a gravel bike, even if it's actually more fit for purpose. I think that sounds great, I've certainly come across terrain too tough for a gravel bike and had to walk, whereas I wouldn't care in the slightest if I was slightly slower on a road on a MTB
You got Lee off road now. Love the bike. I’ve been enjoying my gravel grinder as well and I’m happy to have the same seat post and that it came with redshift stem to soak up a bit of that chunder 😂.
So for a single bike to do audax and gravel, Grizl Trail, Grizl non-Trail... or Grail? And 1x or 2x? For the sake of argument, let's give the road audax bits priority over the roughest gravel bits, which for to me narrows it down to Grizl non-Trail vs Grail?
@@TriathlonDan how tall are you guys (lenght and inner leg), if you don't mind me asking? Canyon has me in between an L and an XL. thanks, great video(s)!
Bought the same bike and colour minus the front shox. So easy straight out of the box, rides great. I do find both ends of the 1by cassette good I can climb or ride fast (relatively). It does miss something mid range and the gaps are noticeable. I think I’m converted to Sram also! Look forward to seeing and hearing your thoughts as you ride.
Question - I'm a heavier rider (285lbs) and I've never owned a carbon fiber frame. I'm an experienced rider and am getting back into biking after some years. Are carbon bikes as fragile as they used to be? I don't want to replace a frame because my 4 year old knocked it over and the top tube hit something. I see riders ripping through trails on a carbon frame but I've read/watch people talk about how heavy riders shouldn't ride carbon because of the weight limit. I'm looking at the grizl and the trek checkpoint sl5 for myself. I've been losing weight and plan to get down to 245-235lbs. But I don't want to under bike myself at my current weight. I also don't want to baby a bike. I come from the mountain bike world where you throw your bike into the woods if you aren't going to make the landing. I want something that will last for decades.
1. When you’re getting a puncture every other ride you’ll start thinking about tubeless 😅 2. Bar width, I guess if you’re looking to race and go quickly then narrower is good but for proper off road / exploring then wider might offer you more control (that was what I read anyway). 3. Great looking bike, get out there, don’t plan rides too much just ride and turn down every path!
In my experience gravel riding requires the most planning for a good ride, but I guess it depends where you live. Around here if you see some fire trail or country road there's a very good chance it'll just end within 2-3km and be a dead end, or turn back to bitumen. If you actually want a nice 2-3 hour ride on gravel that actually goes somewhere and is a good level for a rigid bike, you'll have to plan it pretty well.
Front shocks from Rock shock, at least you're trying 😂 There's a lot of bull floating around YT at the moment on the 'best' or 'worst' gravel bike. Spoiler: no such thing exists. There's enough variety that you can find one that suits your body size and style of riding. Something like this seems like a great place to start and with experience if you find you want something lower, stiffer, better suited for bikepacking then you can find that too. Enjoy!
Haha it says that one them, yes love that, "best" totally depends on what you're using it for doesn't it. I thought I'd be gravel racing, but turns out I love the adventuring more :)
Really nice bike, massive shame Canyon didn’t integrate the cables as get in the way of bar bag if bike packing. I bet you will be tubeless within 3 months, absolute no brainer 😁
On the non-suspension model they are now integrated I believe, good point about the bar bag. I guess as they're only hydro hoses you could fit longer / shorter ones to suit. I think he'll be tubeless too when he's banging it over rocks!
@@jean-michelgirard9151 No I don’t believe what you write. That guys unboxes his bike and he obviously notice what all others guys had noticed… no lockout on the Grizl. Please check Canyon site
@@TriathlonDanI'm old & weak - I don't care if the cassette is bright pink. 🤣 Btw isn't it a bit weird that they've put the suspension on a carbon bike, which has no rack mounts, but not alloy? So many bikes, but not one configured the way I want - I want rack mounts, mullet, and the fork. So I'd have to get an expensive custom build. I'm waiting for the Marin Headlands 2 to come back in stock - carbon WITH rack mounts, Eagle/Apex mullet. (why is it so incredibly hard to find bikes like that?) No suspension though unfortunately. Btw I'll be fitting a 34t chainring from Wolftooth as well to get as close to 18 gear inches as possible. (they tell me it'll shift ok, but may drop the chain if back pedalling in the smaller cogs)
8:37 not true. He’s still going to visit a local bike store when it’s time for some maintenance. Technically, he’s still providing business to the bike shop. Sales of bike frames or complete bikes isn’t big of a margin anyways.
Kudos to Canyon for not integrating the cables…makes dialling in fit a dream with unlimited aftermarket bar/stem combos.
Exactly this, so much easier to work with! I swapped mine no problem.
digging Lee's top. Sartorial elegance too! Back to the bike...
I think it was his Sunday wear :)
Cool video. It'd be interesting doing a revisit in a year once he has some good gravel experience and see what he thinks then regarding tubeless, suspensions, tyres, gears etc.
30mm travel fork seems strange to me. If you go to all that trouble, just put a proper XC 100mm fork on it? I wouldn't think it'd really weigh much more and you'd take advantage of all the R&D from the last 30 years of XC world. I'm looking at a gravel bike and I'm seriously just thinking of just buying an XC bike. Put aero bars on it like you did and you get pretty much the same aero position for flats and road, but you have decent suspension and proper tyres if you want to tackle downhill sections.
I think a 100mm fork would scare off someone looking for a gravel bike, even if it's actually more fit for purpose. I think that sounds great, I've certainly come across terrain too tough for a gravel bike and had to walk, whereas I wouldn't care in the slightest if I was slightly slower on a road on a MTB
How do you recommend the bike after some time having it? I wonder about the fork like that and think if it's a good idea
He loves it, but the fork not being able to be locked out might frustrate him in races
You got Lee off road now. Love the bike. I’ve been enjoying my gravel grinder as well and I’m happy to have the same seat post and that it came with redshift stem to soak up a bit of that chunder 😂.
how's the suspension experience so far? I just got the same bike
He loves it!
@@TriathlonDan did you get why there is a chamber on the left and right side? left is a the solo ok but the right side? got the same bike
Can you ask your mate what make polo he is wearing?
So for a single bike to do audax and gravel, Grizl Trail, Grizl non-Trail... or Grail? And 1x or 2x? For the sake of argument, let's give the road audax bits priority over the roughest gravel bits, which for to me narrows it down to Grizl non-Trail vs Grail?
Hello, what's the color reference on your bike ? Darjeeling ? It's more grey or brown ? Thanks a lot ;)
That’s the one!
@@TriathlonDan Great thank you, and what's the size you have ? XL ?
@@korp57 both mine and this bike are L’s
@@TriathlonDan how tall are you guys (lenght and inner leg), if you don't mind me asking? Canyon has me in between an L and an XL. thanks, great video(s)!
@ sorry I don’t know my inner leg but I’m 6ft2 and Lee is a little shorter than I, both L’s. They do come ‘big’
Bought the same bike and colour minus the front shox.
So easy straight out of the box, rides great. I do find both ends of the 1by cassette good I can climb or ride fast (relatively). It does miss something mid range and the gaps are noticeable. I think I’m converted to Sram also! Look forward to seeing and hearing your thoughts as you ride.
Nice one! Yes there's compromise somewhere isn't there. Nice there's a front mech hangar if you did want to go 2x though
Looking at gravel bikes and this is one of the bikes I'm looking at, still happy with it Lee?
He’s loving it! He’s even committed to a gravel event or two next year ;)
Question - I'm a heavier rider (285lbs) and I've never owned a carbon fiber frame. I'm an experienced rider and am getting back into biking after some years. Are carbon bikes as fragile as they used to be? I don't want to replace a frame because my 4 year old knocked it over and the top tube hit something. I see riders ripping through trails on a carbon frame but I've read/watch people talk about how heavy riders shouldn't ride carbon because of the weight limit. I'm looking at the grizl and the trek checkpoint sl5 for myself. I've been losing weight and plan to get down to 245-235lbs. But I don't want to under bike myself at my current weight. I also don't want to baby a bike. I come from the mountain bike world where you throw your bike into the woods if you aren't going to make the landing. I want something that will last for decades.
1. When you’re getting a puncture every other ride you’ll start thinking about tubeless 😅
2. Bar width, I guess if you’re looking to race and go quickly then narrower is good but for proper off road / exploring then wider might offer you more control (that was what I read anyway).
3. Great looking bike, get out there, don’t plan rides too much just ride and turn down every path!
The words "flared bars" are being batted around haha
@@TriathlonDan issue with too flared is you can’t fit through a lot of stiles 😂
In my experience gravel riding requires the most planning for a good ride, but I guess it depends where you live. Around here if you see some fire trail or country road there's a very good chance it'll just end within 2-3km and be a dead end, or turn back to bitumen. If you actually want a nice 2-3 hour ride on gravel that actually goes somewhere and is a good level for a rigid bike, you'll have to plan it pretty well.
@@AndrewisTri-tn1uo yeah, mine was more in the context of 1-2 hour spins not all day stuff, where I agree you need a solid plan. 👍
Hello, thank you for the video! Is it Darjeeling color?
yes I think so :D
@@TriathlonDan Thank you! Very beautiful color and bike!
Front shocks from Rock shock, at least you're trying 😂 There's a lot of bull floating around YT at the moment on the 'best' or 'worst' gravel bike. Spoiler: no such thing exists. There's enough variety that you can find one that suits your body size and style of riding. Something like this seems like a great place to start and with experience if you find you want something lower, stiffer, better suited for bikepacking then you can find that too. Enjoy!
Haha it says that one them, yes love that, "best" totally depends on what you're using it for doesn't it. I thought I'd be gravel racing, but turns out I love the adventuring more :)
its nice not getting crap sprayed on youre soft tissue squeezing though a small hole of the saddle.
I didn't realise it would be such a big difference in terms of comfort, love it
Really nice bike, massive shame Canyon didn’t integrate the cables as get in the way of bar bag if bike packing. I bet you will be tubeless within 3 months, absolute no brainer 😁
On the non-suspension model they are now integrated I believe, good point about the bar bag. I guess as they're only hydro hoses you could fit longer / shorter ones to suit. I think he'll be tubeless too when he's banging it over rocks!
Tubeless on gravel is a no brainer, easier to set and less faff when you puncture. Honest
Exactly what I said :D
Not running tubeless on a gravel bike is insanity. Especially if you’re running a suspension fork. Non-stop snakebite flats guaranteed!
@@samcaws7920 he will be converted give it time ;)
That’s a placing I’ve lost at holkam then..😂
hahaha you and me both mate!
Why does the title say “I bought the wrong bike”?
That frame looks big
What I thought - too big.
It's a size Large, he consulted a bike fitter before buying :)
Agree looks big to me.. Pete
No way. Looks perfect. Too many modern or new cyclists fall for the small frame / bent over ruse.
Size large, how tall are you?
No lookout on suspension fork is unacceptable. Even £50 forks have this feature
I think he's going to have them quite firm
It is a choice. I'd be curious to see a test on how much difference it makes. Maybe it really doesn't make any difference at all (ie
The rock shox on the Grizl HAVE a lockout! Read the specs on the site before writing.
@@Checkpat So you believe everything heard on the Internet?
@@jean-michelgirard9151
No I don’t believe what you write. That guys unboxes his bike and he obviously notice what all others guys had noticed… no lockout on the Grizl. Please check Canyon site
Shame there's no Eagle 10-52 version
I just want the rainbow cassette :D
@@TriathlonDanI'm old & weak - I don't care if the cassette is bright pink. 🤣 Btw isn't it a bit weird that they've put the suspension on a carbon bike, which has no rack mounts, but not alloy? So many bikes, but not one configured the way I want - I want rack mounts, mullet, and the fork. So I'd have to get an expensive custom build. I'm waiting for the Marin Headlands 2 to come back in stock - carbon WITH rack mounts, Eagle/Apex mullet. (why is it so incredibly hard to find bikes like that?) No suspension though unfortunately. Btw I'll be fitting a 34t chainring from Wolftooth as well to get as close to 18 gear inches as possible. (they tell me it'll shift ok, but may drop the chain if back pedalling in the smaller cogs)
An eagle version is there now.
@cyclingjack thanks for the heads up!
8:37 not true. He’s still going to visit a local bike store when it’s time for some maintenance. Technically, he’s still providing business to the bike shop. Sales of bike frames or complete bikes isn’t big of a margin anyways.
True!
That looks cool 😎👍
Lee's T-shirt, or the bike? :D
@@TriathlonDan 🤣🤣👍 Bike
Large frame = longer reach less control
It's the correct size for him, he consulted a bike fitter first :)
Hydraulic disc brakes are fantastic “when they work”
Hmmm… 🤔
They work until I touch them 🤣🤦♂️
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A grovel bike is always the wrong bike 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Haha I love gravel!