It kind of sounds like rather than picking the wrong bike manufacturer, you picked the wrong spec'd Grizl...I have the CF SL 8 2x and absolutely love it ... The seat post clamp is designed the way that it is to accommodate the split rail seat post on other models, like the CF SL 8, which I really wanted over a dropper post & has turned out to be phenomenal & really does add to comfort. Makes sense that they would keep the frame designs all the same in case someone wanted to add that later. The press-fit bottom bracket is neither here nor there for me.. I had to replace mine after UNBOUND 2 years ago, and it was no biggie. And then your gearing issue could've of course been addressed with a 2x. I did change my bars to the Zipp xplr bars for a bit more flare and sweep, so I do think they could've put a more gravely, adventure bar on there, but that's pretty subjective.
Hi Claire - thank you for your thoughtful comments! Ohhhhhh makes sense now about the seat post clamp designed around the split rail seatpost. It's just a bummer that they also sell it with the dropper post that slips when torqued to their specs and if you torque it beyond their specs it hangs up on the dropper return. It just felt like an afterthought to sell a model with a dropper by Canyon. I agree with you I probably would have been happier with the split rail but the damage is already done. I did just recently replace my press-fit BB and it wasn't that big of a deal but I still hate the concept. When I pulled my the inside where it 'presses' in was destroyed with dirt and mud and this wouldn't happen with threaded. Adventure bars would be amazing and I would love to see this model with 10-51 12 speed sometime in the future.
I doubt it is about the split rail seatpost, since you can also get that on the aluminium Grizl and all the aluminium ones have the traditional seat post clamp@@TheEnduranceStudio (I like my aluminium Grizl)
I ended up buying a specialized diverge carbon sport and love it. Currently doing 700 mi in the Netherlands on it and it rides like a dream with all the bags attached.
Thats awesome! I had to get past the pretentiousness around Specialized (bad bike shop experience early on in my cycling career) and ended up with and Epic Evo for my mountain bike. They make a damn good bike.
You wondered about the strange sizes of the bike? German sizes are different to other countries. A US condom size L usually would be equivalent to Size S in Germany. Same with bikes.
Glad I could help. Shimano just came out with GRX 1x12 drivetrain so I'll probably wait until that pricing becomes realistic before I upgrade to my next gravel bike.
I have the SL 8 2X and couldn't be happier. I put on a XTR 11-40 cassette to deal with the hills in Vermont. I changed the handlebars to carbon Easton, the seat to a 3D printed Specialized and the wheels to carbon Hunts. I did have to swap out the creaking BB with a White Industries. Happy and highly recommend Canyon.
@@TheEnduranceStudio Weight w/o pedals or cages is 8.37kg or 18.45 lbs. With computer mount, 2 cages and pedals it's 8.87 kg, 19 lbs 9 oz or 19.56 lbs. Garmin power meter pedals are not light at 448 grams.
this is such a refreshingly honest review - I like that you've had the bike a year and have really put it through its paces, both in distance, terrain and also customisation. Probably like most people, I love the look of this bike (SL 8 model), but I really wanted to use a redshift shock stem to reduce the pounding on my arms and shoulders. The quirks of sizing bug me too, so not only are there additions you can't have but you're tied into Canynon compatible mudguards (fenders), pannier racks and tool bags. I'm probably not going to buy the latest version of this bike, which leaves me a bit gutted. Your precis was invaluable. Many thanks
thanks for watching and commenting. groups that review bikes after one or two rides are lame. So much stuff comes out over a year's time of actual use. I'm out on canyon for life as well.
Nice review, thanks! I thought I would share my experiences ... I saved up and got the CF SLX Di2 version 6 months ago. As a roadie, I like that the geometry is pretty aggressive, not dissimilar to my Canyon Ultimate. I also like the low weight and simplicity; no hover bar, no dropper post, no front shock. I had no issues with seat post slipping so far. 2x GRX definitely the way to go for me, 1x never appealed to me. Regarding the press-fit, indeed it's much less straightforward to do any repairs yourself, but the creaking problem is in most cases due to poor manufacturing tolerances on the BB shell itself, luckily I haven't experienced any creak so far with my Canyons. For sizing, indeed best to look at the dimensions themselves (stack, reach, ...) instead of relying on Canyons naming conventions. Other highlights for me have been the Di2 and GRX brakes (so good), DT Swiss wheels (ultra smooth) and leaf spring seatpost (very effective). I would buy again :). Cheers!
thanks for watching Chris! I just pulled the bottom bracket this morning and it looks pretty tragic - covered in dried mud and muck and one of the bearings is roached. Where the press fit parts contacts the frame is dirt instead of grease. I'm shocked this thing wasn't creaking yet. The combo of the open hole in the back and the pressfit BB makes me lean into threaded BB even more. I've been through the gnarliest death mud on my Ti hardtail MTB with a threaded bottom bracket and its held up. So if you plan to bikepack with your gravel bike, threaded bottom bracket for the win. Can't wait to see what you end up with.
I picked up the 1x Susp AL version and the first thing to be changed was the gearing. Did a mullet set up by upgrading to an Eagle 11-52 with a 34 front chain ring which gave me the climbing gears needed for bike packing. Only down side was I had to do AXS which wasn't cheap. I gave up a little top end but I do not miss it at all, just like being able to climb with a load on the bike.
@@TheEnduranceStudio Wireless was my only real option. Haven't had any issues with battery life yet other then the battery will drain faster when doing lots of climbing requiring lots of shifting.
The bottom bracket is quasi-pressfit. The Token Ninja is designed for pressfit bottom bracket shells but threads together. It's actually a pretty ingenious design that at least gets away from the PITA process of true pressfit removal and reinstallation. Any bike shop can replace the bearings with the standard tools they have on hand. That being said...mine ticks on my Grizl 6 AL. I'll pull it apart at some point and regrease it, maybe that will fix it. Regarding the stem, Redshift makes 1-1/4" ones, so as far as I'm concerned that mostly nullifies that oddity for me. However, It does mean that the Acros headset is a specialty size (is52-bearingset-a01), and has to be ordered from Europe for about $100 shipped to the US. Probably best to buy one and stash it, because that's about the only wear part on the Grizl that a bike shop definitely won't stock, and Canyon USA frustratingly doesn't even have it listed on their website.
I did replace my Token Ninja after a trip to iceland and it was packed with crud. I will forever choose threaded over pressfit on all bikes. Thanks for the info on the stem and headset! This bike is long gone for me. I ended up buying a Revel Rover frame+fork and moving all the parts over.
Maybe bad luck, but my Ninja token had broken bearings after just about 5.000km. Standard Shimano road pressfit was cheaper and lasts longer (currently about 8.500km)
yep thats true! You can get really good components and a good bike for a great price. Does the AL version have the weird seatpost clamp system or is it a normal collar?
I have a grizl 6 bought 2by converted to single. I have put a lot of miles on mine I’m guessing more than most folks. The bike is about 9 months I am on my third bb and headset bearings are pretty bad. I race it and train with it I find it to be reliable as far as the frame goes and I think you can’t go wrong if you pick change to the correct gearing for your area. I really wanted to dislike the bike but it’s a beast of a bike and if you are willing to work on can really reward you. I go through parts becuase of the mileage I’m doing it is what it is.
I totally agree with you. The frame is solid but the components were dissatisfactory for me and it sounds like a bit for you. If someone is handy replacing thing themselves, it's not a bad budget priced carbon option.
Thanks for the video. Perhaps you should have bought the 2 by model instead. The missing cable hole cover was annoying but you were sent two. If you say you have OCD then trying the bike in an actual shop or at a Canyon trial day may have saved time and effort. I hope you enjoy the gravel riding / bikepacking on what ever bike. All the best.
Thank you for watching and commenting! I H-H-H hhhate front derailleurs. Plus 1x12 GRX just came out. If they have 1x12 with 51 tooth cassette for mountain bike they should also offer it for one by gravel. Good point on Canyon trial day but i'm not sure if these little things would have come to light with a short test ride.
Thanks for really informative review, especially this kind of long term review! Been really helpful to me as I'm trying to decide between Grizl AL 8 1by and Trek Checkpoint ALR 5.
I got the Canyon Grizl AL GRX 820 2x drive train 2 years ago. Overall I am very happy with this bike and had no issues with it at all. I did change the handlebar to a wider and more flared bar. I purchased the Canyon top tube bag and half frame bag. Their zippers failed and certainly did not last very long. I found that the gear specs with this bike was adequate for most of the riding I do but once I started going on bike packing trips this set up is totally under geared. Yes , there is enough gearing for keeping the bike rolling on the flats and downhills but with a 46/30 and a 11x36 cassette you start walking as soon as the trail goes uphill. I fixed that issue by exchanging the cassette to an 11x40. Problem solved. A 1x drive train either doesn’t have enough lower gears or enough higher gears. So if you are planning to go touring with this bike choose a 2x set up
thanks for commenting. Yeah.....a bike marketing for bikepacking should be geared appropriately for loads 50 lbs+. For bikepacking bags, hands down the best bags are from Dispersed Bikepacking Gear. They use burly monster zippers that do not fail. check them out at dispersed.bike
6:10 My cursed synapse from lame cannondale had a serious problem and they didn't honor their warranty. Its FSA was also flexy and didn't like it, replaced it with an ultegra, but of course because bike is cursed (had many problems) crankset is prone to breaks (recalled)... hahah
I thought you were talking comparative bikes when you mentioned both the Rover and the Grizl. I was surprised to find out the Rover is 7k versus 2.5k for the current Grizl. I may have to look past a couple of minor concerns.
Yeah true. My friend had a Rover so it was the closest thing to benchmark against. I ended up selling the Grizl frame and now have a pre-owned Revel Rover and love it.
I have the same bike as the one reviewed, and I’ve had it for a similar period of time, and put around 2,500 miles on it. I also wouldn’t buy it again, and regret going with canyon. I’m 6’1 and I bought a large (against canyons advice they put me on a medium) and compared to my other bikes it even feels slightly cramped. My grizl is on its second bottom bracket and already due for a third. the finish and paint on the frame also feels really poor compared to my specialized mtb’s, and my epic evo a full-sus that only cost 1200 more weighs around the same. I’ve owned dozens of bikes and this is one of the few I’ve never fallen in love with. Really all I can say is buy something else, their are better options even if they’re more costly. I do find solace that the bike is already near my dollar per mile ridden goal (a silly one) but hopefully I’ll be replacing it soon.
Bought Trek Checkpoint ARL in stead of Canyon Grizl, and iam toyally happy with that decision. That canyon had some unusual downsides. Standard parts was essential for me
The Checkpoint seems like a nice entry level aluminum gravel bike. Whats the weight on yours? Thats probably the only downside over carbon for the same price point.
Very helpful. Looking for my first Gravel bike. I have a Cannondale Road and TT bikes and a Specialized Mtn bike, wanted to try another brand, but preferably with time tested Shimano components...looking at the current market, it seems that everything is made in China today (to include Cannondale) My CADD 8 was 07, and proudly made in the USA. I heard Canyon might be German? Or German designed and made in Chana...Google search next. Thank you again.
If you really want to go with Made in the USA you'll have to go with a titanium frame which would be a good option - especially for adventure biking. There are tons of Ti manufacturers in the US but Moots and Chumba come to mind. chumbausa.com/made-in-usa-gravel-bikes
Sadly i regret my Grizl (AL) Even though it provided me with many great experiences. Ive had it for 1,5 years and put around 13.500km into it, ridden all-year round. And besides a few smaller gripes (Like ugly thru axles with handles), there are two big reasons why I cant recommend it: 1) the steerer size. I know that it was mentioned here, but my god. I didnt know that pretty much only Canyon and giant uses this. This means you have very limited options when it comes to: headcaps, Headsets, spacers, forks and stems. Especially stems are very important, because they are very individual. I had the misfortune, that my steerer tube was simply chaved, apparently from the upper Headset bearing rubbing (yes, everything was tightened down properly). Leaving a dent, which made the fork rattle and thus the size of the chaved area increased because the rattling created more friction. So, lets get that fork replaced asap i thought. Well, you cant find anything that fits. I checked many big online retailers, couldnt find a single fork. So, i Had to contact Canyon, which leads me to... 2) warranty only applies when you Bring your bike to a shop that is a Canyon Partner. In a City of 3million people and hundreds of Bike Shops, there are two, who are partnered with Canyon, and that althought i live in Europe where Canyon is more established. So ironically, choosing the giant Bike manufacturer Made me feel so much more Limited in my Options. When my Rose Bike needed fixing, i could simply get it to any Bike Shop and Just had to send them the bill. But it gets better, while I DO have to Credit Canyon that they stood by their warranty (fork was free to replace), it took about 7 weeks to replace it! Simply because of the unnecessary long Chain: i had to contact a very busy Shop (and it was offseason), Bring in Bike, Shop Checks it, shop contacts Canyon, Canyon Checks Case, Canyon sends parts, Bike Shop installs parts. And since they didnt have the color of my frame anymore, im now stuck with a fork that has a completely unfitting color and even a different Finish (Glossy instead of Matte). A fork I cant replace even If Id want to spend the Money out of my own pocket.
Hi thanks for watching. Yes I mentioned the Revel Rover. If I were to buy again, I would probably buy a Revel Rover but would wait until they have a 1x12 gearing version with more range for heavy bikepacking loads. Shimano just released their 1x12 GRX.
Thank you for watching 🙏🏻. I just put on a 46T cassette instead of the stock 42T hoping that will tide me over until I can upgrade to a 1x12 down the road.
I am surprised how many of these gravel / bike packing bikes come set up with the 11/42 cassette. I think we need a bigger range for the bigger hills with a lot of gear.@@TheEnduranceStudio
Does the Grizl have any way to attach a rear rack for panniers rather than those floppy and sometimes (from what I’ve heard) hard to unpack seat tube packs? Do too know of any good links on the Revel Rover? Thanks for the video!
It appears the Carbon Fiber version of the Grizl only has interior mounts on the seat stays for fenders and nothing for pannier racks. The Aluminum version (Grizl AL) does have pannier mounts and is heavily advertised as such. Seat bags have come a long ways and I'd suggest either going with something minimal like the Revelate Shrew or you could go with something super stable like the Ortileb Seat-Pack QR which is stable and removes quickly. I agree seat bags are a bit tricky to use just have to pack them smartly when your wrecked haha.
Love the video! Question about sizing, do you think size small will work for me? Im 5’6” with 30in inseam. Canyon recommend xs to me but xs small are out of stock. Thanks!
Thanks for watching. Yikes I'm not sure about sizing. What I can say is I was hesitant to get the small size that Canyon recommended and regret not test riding a small and medium first. On paper the frame sizing on the Grizl Small is close to the Revel Rover Medium but the ride is completely different. Do you tend to size up or down on other bikes?
I think the Grizl would be cool with a 10-51 and maybe 36t up front, GRX seems almost too roady for it and you want some serious granny gears on some of those FSR climbs.
Thanks for watching! I just replaced the FSA crankset it came with for a Shimano GRX 600 and put on a 11-46T cassette. I'm hoping this solves a couple of my gripes with the bike. It's a great deal to get a fully carbon fork and frame for the money, just some quirks. I'm going to hold onto it until I can get a good deal on a 1x12 GRX bike. Good luck let me know what you end up doing.
The grizl is amazing, cycling through the forest is so much fun but if you drive on the road and wanna be fast these 45mm wheels consume too much energy
I was gonna get one to be fair, but i'll think i'll stick to a Titanium or Steel gravel bike with external bottom bracket as they are built to last...!!! Let's be honest here, bikes of a decent spec are not cheap these days, thanks for the eye opening review :)
If you're going to have it for the long haul, you can't go wrong with a Ti bike. I've heard really good things about the Revel R+. Also i'm a threaded BB guy for life.
Really good review. I was thinking of getting one of these but I think the Scott Addict Gravel and ROSE back road are nicer bikes. Something kinda cheap looking about the paint style on this particular Canyon grail.
Size fit reccomendation: never look at the top tube length and reach length without looking at seat tube angle. ST Angle determines the reach. Steeper the angle, longer the reach. That said, modern MTB and Gravel bikes usually have steeper ST angles which leads to reach figures...
Thanks for that tip! Maybe i'm thinking off here but does a steeper seat tube angle move the seat closer to the handlebars, therefore shortening the reach?
@@TheEnduranceStudio yes it moves body postion forward which means that Reach (distance measured from BB to stem/handlebars) must increase accordingly...
I run 45cm Maxxis Ramblers. I'm 160 lbs with gear and run 29 psi in the rear and 27 up front. This is a nice balance between gravel compliance and rolling speed on road. Its by no means fast on the road when compared to a road bike, however this balance makes it capable for mixed terrain use.
Thanks for your sharing, Sir. I'm also planning a cycling trip in beautiful Iceland in the upcoming 2024. Do you see any problems while cycling in Iceland? Maybe any advice? Thanks a lot!
Iceland was amazing! Expensive but amazing. I very much enjoyed the culture and the utilitarian and independent nature of most of the people. I pretty much cover all my ups and downs about doing a self-supported trip in my Iceland video here ruclips.net/video/b9D4YQwWsVM/видео.html . The biggest challenges were 1) finding good resupply - i'm used to a 24hr McD or CircleK being everywhere - not in iceland! 2) figuring out travel/transportation 3) Headwinds (go as aero as possible) 4) cost of everything. Feel free to ask me about any more specifics if you'd like after you watch the video.
No. I returned the Easton AX and sold the Iridium Post on ebay and ended up with an Easton EC70 Carbon Rigid Post. I found the dropper on this bike is a bit ridiculous. I came out with some extra money for my hassle.
Hey Mr Truth. I'd need to give it a good beating to really get to the bottom of things. But a few thoughts: Finally some flared bars - yay! The integrated frame storage is a great concept, but wonder how it would fair after days on end - could be really cool, could also break. Also the bag has a Fidlock magnetic attachment system which makes me nervous. I prefer a positive lock sort of situation (velcro) going on with essentials in my frame bag. Lastly on the seatpost - "That’s why the Grail uses newly developed tube shapes, an updated seatpost". Does this mean they redesigned the seatpost or the clamp? The pics look like it still has the plastic insert single bolt clamp thingy.
I wish I would have noticed it sooner after I received the bike. It didn't really effect the performance, just annoying. What did effect the performance was the premature wear on the crap FSA chainring so I started getting dropped chains all the time. I switched to GRX and never looked back.
@@TheEnduranceStudio I read several reports on Reddit that Canyon was reimbursing folks who complained about the FSA crankset and switched to GRX. May want to hit them up.
Great Video! Thank you for it! at 10:13 - you are wishing buying another cassette or "2by model"? what do you mean here? I am about to buy a bike, but I will be pulling an extra 20kg stroller so the extra low gear is a must have. Thank you for the response!
Thanks for watching. If I were to ever bikepack with this heavy load again on this bike, I would buy the model with 2 chainrings in the front and a front derailleur. This would give me more range and a better low climbing ‘granny gear’. I really like the simplicity of a 1x setup, tho. So I compromised and put a cassette on there with a slightly larger big cog to have slightly easier climbing.
I guess it depends on your budget. Since I didn't have the greatest experience with the Canyon Grizl, I have a hard time recommending it. I ended up selling my Grizl and buying a pre-owned Revel Rover which I absolutely love, but its much more expensive than the Grizl. Will you be doing endurance rides and bikepacking or staying on roads / urban trails?
@@TheEnduranceStudio thanks for the follow up. Mostly they will be short up to 2days rides, together with wife pulling daughter... mostly (relatively) well maintained gravel or dirt roads(50%), forest trails (15%), greenways/asphalts (30%) . Sands/Mud - very rarely (5%). Budget definitely below $2000 Thank you once more for the answer I spent on the research already a week and I am back at the entry point ;)
@@B0mb4rd1n0 for that price the best bang for your buck may just be the Grizl 7 aluminum. its 2by, and will allow you to attach racks and stuff. It looks like it has a standard seatpost clamp system and shimano GRX components. I'd to this for 2K or under. www.canyon.com/en-us/gravel-bikes/adventure/grizl/al/grizl-7/3715.html?dwvar_3715_pv_rahmenfarbe=R075_P04
Canyon really doesn't pay attention during assembly and shipping. They gave me a frankenbike too, without first confirming with me whether I'm ok with it. I'd rather have a complete flawless product than be bothered writing tickets and waiting for stuff to arrive. Sold the Canyon and bought Specialized instead. Worth the money. I can just go to the shop and have stuff fixed for free when it's covered by warranty.
Firstly, great video production! I'm surprised that you said you wouldn't buy the Canyon Grizl again, it sounds like you have it a hammering and it stood up well. On the gearing, since your OCD is triggered on the front chainring - can you upgrade to a 2x to give you the additional gearing for steeper climbs?
Thank you for watching. I've had a new problem develop with the front chainring constantly dropping the chain. I put on a new chain, checked the clutch on the rear der and it still drops. This didn't happen until recently so only thing I can think is the substituted FSA chainring is worn already. I looked for a wolf tooth 40T chainring and can't find one with the 120mm BCD on this crank. So I've opted to replace it with a GRX rx600 crankset like it should have had from the start. This will definitely fix the wavy chainring 🤣. Also i'm going to put on 165mm cranks instead of the 170 since I have stumpy legs. Also the cassette is worn so i'm going to replace with a 46t instead of 42t - hoping this provides a slight bit more of range.
@@TheEnduranceStudio I have a Fuji Jari with an FSA crankset and it's definitely wavey. I even replaced it with another FSA crankset and that one was wavey also. I think it's a feature at this point.
Your insights on the Grizl were thought-provoking. I'm curious to know if having the right cranks from the start would have significantly altered your overall assessment. Additionally, you mentioned a preference for a threaded bottom bracket over a press-fit one; did you encounter any specific issues with the press-fit during your extensive testing?
hey thanks for watching and commenting. It would have been nice to get the better quality cranks from the start but I don't think it would have changed my overall assessment. The seat post clamp was super super frustrating. I did have some clicks in the drivetrain but could never nail it down to the BB. I actually am picking up a Revel Rover frame today and will be moving the parts over to that. It will be interesting to see if I still have the drivetrain click with all the same parts but a threaded BB instead. Cheers.
Hey Dylan, I have a grizl al 6 (1500 bucks) the one with the grx 400, 2x10. I used mine like you used yours. I came up with this conclusion : It's a great bike especially for Randoneur tours/ bike packing. I bout a wolftooth and a 11-42 cassette, so now my lowest gear is 30 in the front an 42 in the back. This gives my a lot of range for steeper climbers I did in the alps. The stem problem is a real one , but canyon offers now with the new grail various options on other stem lengths, befor you just had to buy the 140 bucks megaforce from syntech. With this changes it's really a great one to do it all bike . I don't have any problems with aluminium , I prefers it over carbon tbh. For 1500 it's the best you can get
thanks for watching. Yeah when comparing to the Revel Rover. The frame geo on the rover makes it feel a bit more on top of the front wheel and this is less so on the Grizl.
BikePacking NEEDS 2x .. 1x is only for weekenders and racers only ! You should have told Canyon to stick the FSA cranks "where the sun don't shine" as they have NEVER made a worthwhile product of any description. You can easily straighten the chainring with an adjustable wrench - plenty of YT vids on doing that, it's the same as for discs. Why don't you have the Canyon split seatpost, it's light comfortable as it privides "suspension" to your saddle, as BikePacker you'd find that a big plus. In all, I don;t think you have enough experience to make videos, you maybe need to watch some more and learn from them.
Thanks for watching. Agreed the FSA crankset is garbage and in hindsight I would have refused the replacement from Canyon. I just replaced with a GRX and won't look back. You live and learn!
Unfortunately canyon has a lot of issues in the aftersale department. Support seems to be terrible and I have heard a lot of horror stories about their bikes braking. Their trusted shop reviews speak for themselves even if it is a lot more likely that people with bad experience give it a review. I have the same bad experience for the big stores with countless bikes because they lack the service. It's just a shame if you have a warranty issue and the bike is gone for 2 months or your next service appointment will be in 9 weeks. I rather buy something in a smaller shop that's known for good service. Canyon bikes are great on paper and they look amazing but their aggressive marketing can't cover up the points above.
Thanks for watching. True this is a big downside to direct to consumer over the brick and mortar bike shop model and this is risk to take if you go this route. I've learned how to do all the maintenance myself from youtube videos and have multiple bikes so sending one back for warranty is just a hiccup. I've heard Canyon support isn't good from other but my experience was just he opposite - the support was great! The bike is solid if you can get over the oddities.
The most revealing review of the bike I have found so far. Excellent work. Thank you
thank you. I'm glad you found it helpful!
It kind of sounds like rather than picking the wrong bike manufacturer, you picked the wrong spec'd Grizl...I have the CF SL 8 2x and absolutely love it ... The seat post clamp is designed the way that it is to accommodate the split rail seat post on other models, like the CF SL 8, which I really wanted over a dropper post & has turned out to be phenomenal & really does add to comfort. Makes sense that they would keep the frame designs all the same in case someone wanted to add that later. The press-fit bottom bracket is neither here nor there for me.. I had to replace mine after UNBOUND 2 years ago, and it was no biggie. And then your gearing issue could've of course been addressed with a 2x. I did change my bars to the Zipp xplr bars for a bit more flare and sweep, so I do think they could've put a more gravely, adventure bar on there, but that's pretty subjective.
Hi Claire - thank you for your thoughtful comments! Ohhhhhh makes sense now about the seat post clamp designed around the split rail seatpost. It's just a bummer that they also sell it with the dropper post that slips when torqued to their specs and if you torque it beyond their specs it hangs up on the dropper return. It just felt like an afterthought to sell a model with a dropper by Canyon. I agree with you I probably would have been happier with the split rail but the damage is already done. I did just recently replace my press-fit BB and it wasn't that big of a deal but I still hate the concept. When I pulled my the inside where it 'presses' in was destroyed with dirt and mud and this wouldn't happen with threaded. Adventure bars would be amazing and I would love to see this model with 10-51 12 speed sometime in the future.
I doubt it is about the split rail seatpost, since you can also get that on the aluminium Grizl and all the aluminium ones have the traditional seat post clamp@@TheEnduranceStudio (I like my aluminium Grizl)
I ended up buying a specialized diverge carbon sport and love it. Currently doing 700 mi in the Netherlands on it and it rides like a dream with all the bags attached.
Thats awesome! I had to get past the pretentiousness around Specialized (bad bike shop experience early on in my cycling career) and ended up with and Epic Evo for my mountain bike. They make a damn good bike.
You wondered about the strange sizes of the bike? German sizes are different to other countries. A US condom size L usually would be equivalent to Size S in Germany. Same with bikes.
Yes. US men have small sausages. That's why they like to drive big cars.
Thanks so much for the in depth review. Some of us pay attention to and notice even the slightest nuances and I appreciate the time you put into this.
thanks for watching. sometimes being dug into the details is a blessing and sometimes a curse. haha. I'll take blessing for today.
Thanks for this video. It definitely gives me a lot to think about as I search for a do-it-all gravel bike.
Glad I could help. Shimano just came out with GRX 1x12 drivetrain so I'll probably wait until that pricing becomes realistic before I upgrade to my next gravel bike.
That dropper post clamp and gearing range really got me to get the AL version.
Thanks for watching! Very true
I have the SL 8 2X and couldn't be happier. I put on a XTR 11-40 cassette to deal with the hills in Vermont. I changed the handlebars to carbon Easton, the seat to a 3D printed Specialized and the wheels to carbon Hunts. I did have to swap out the creaking BB with a White Industries. Happy and highly recommend Canyon.
Thanks for watching. This is really great feedback! What is the total bike weight with these upgrades?
@@TheEnduranceStudio Weight w/o pedals or cages is 8.37kg or 18.45 lbs. With computer mount, 2 cages and pedals it's 8.87 kg, 19 lbs 9 oz or 19.56 lbs. Garmin power meter pedals are not light at 448 grams.
Your upgrades cost as much as another bike and you're happy with the bike?
this is such a refreshingly honest review - I like that you've had the bike a year and have really put it through its paces, both in distance, terrain and also customisation. Probably like most people, I love the look of this bike (SL 8 model), but I really wanted to use a redshift shock stem to reduce the pounding on my arms and shoulders. The quirks of sizing bug me too, so not only are there additions you can't have but you're tied into Canynon compatible mudguards (fenders), pannier racks and tool bags. I'm probably not going to buy the latest version of this bike, which leaves me a bit gutted. Your precis was invaluable. Many thanks
Redshift makes 1-1/4" shock stems.
thanks for watching and commenting. groups that review bikes after one or two rides are lame. So much stuff comes out over a year's time of actual use. I'm out on canyon for life as well.
Nice review, thanks! I thought I would share my experiences ... I saved up and got the CF SLX Di2 version 6 months ago. As a roadie, I like that the geometry is pretty aggressive, not dissimilar to my Canyon Ultimate. I also like the low weight and simplicity; no hover bar, no dropper post, no front shock. I had no issues with seat post slipping so far. 2x GRX definitely the way to go for me, 1x never appealed to me. Regarding the press-fit, indeed it's much less straightforward to do any repairs yourself, but the creaking problem is in most cases due to poor manufacturing tolerances on the BB shell itself, luckily I haven't experienced any creak so far with my Canyons. For sizing, indeed best to look at the dimensions themselves (stack, reach, ...) instead of relying on Canyons naming conventions. Other highlights for me have been the Di2 and GRX brakes (so good), DT Swiss wheels (ultra smooth) and leaf spring seatpost (very effective). I would buy again :). Cheers!
Thank you for taking the time to give your opinion. Sounds like this setup you bought is ideal.
Nice work Dylan. I have actually been thinking about getting a gravel bike or drop bar MTB and was looking at the Grizl. Glad I watched this.
thanks for watching Chris! I just pulled the bottom bracket this morning and it looks pretty tragic - covered in dried mud and muck and one of the bearings is roached. Where the press fit parts contacts the frame is dirt instead of grease. I'm shocked this thing wasn't creaking yet. The combo of the open hole in the back and the pressfit BB makes me lean into threaded BB even more. I've been through the gnarliest death mud on my Ti hardtail MTB with a threaded bottom bracket and its held up. So if you plan to bikepack with your gravel bike, threaded bottom bracket for the win. Can't wait to see what you end up with.
Do it! I watch tour channel too
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I picked up the 1x Susp AL version and the first thing to be changed was the gearing. Did a mullet set up by upgrading to an Eagle 11-52 with a 34 front chain ring which gave me the climbing gears needed for bike packing. Only down side was I had to do AXS which wasn't cheap. I gave up a little top end but I do not miss it at all, just like being able to climb with a load on the bike.
That gearing is definitely better for a loaded bike. I will never run AXS bikepacking.....ever.
@@TheEnduranceStudio Wireless was my only real option. Haven't had any issues with battery life yet other then the battery will drain faster when doing lots of climbing requiring lots of shifting.
The bottom bracket is quasi-pressfit. The Token Ninja is designed for pressfit bottom bracket shells but threads together. It's actually a pretty ingenious design that at least gets away from the PITA process of true pressfit removal and reinstallation. Any bike shop can replace the bearings with the standard tools they have on hand.
That being said...mine ticks on my Grizl 6 AL. I'll pull it apart at some point and regrease it, maybe that will fix it.
Regarding the stem, Redshift makes 1-1/4" ones, so as far as I'm concerned that mostly nullifies that oddity for me. However, It does mean that the Acros headset is a specialty size (is52-bearingset-a01), and has to be ordered from Europe for about $100 shipped to the US. Probably best to buy one and stash it, because that's about the only wear part on the Grizl that a bike shop definitely won't stock, and Canyon USA frustratingly doesn't even have it listed on their website.
I did replace my Token Ninja after a trip to iceland and it was packed with crud. I will forever choose threaded over pressfit on all bikes.
Thanks for the info on the stem and headset! This bike is long gone for me. I ended up buying a Revel Rover frame+fork and moving all the parts over.
Maybe bad luck, but my Ninja token had broken bearings after just about 5.000km. Standard Shimano road pressfit was cheaper and lasts longer (currently about 8.500km)
I got the AL version and I’m pretty happy with it. For the price it’s a really great bike.
yep thats true! You can get really good components and a good bike for a great price. Does the AL version have the weird seatpost clamp system or is it a normal collar?
@@TheEnduranceStudio Normal collar.
I have a grizl 6 bought 2by converted to single. I have put a lot of miles on mine I’m guessing more than most folks. The bike is about 9 months I am on my third bb and headset bearings are pretty bad. I race it and train with it I find it to be reliable as far as the frame goes and I think you can’t go wrong if you pick change to the correct gearing for your area. I really wanted to dislike the bike but it’s a beast of a bike and if you are willing to work on can really reward you. I go through parts becuase of the mileage I’m doing it is what it is.
I totally agree with you. The frame is solid but the components were dissatisfactory for me and it sounds like a bit for you. If someone is handy replacing thing themselves, it's not a bad budget priced carbon option.
Thanks for the video. Perhaps you should have bought the 2 by model instead. The missing cable hole cover was annoying but you were sent two. If you say you have OCD then trying the bike in an actual shop or at a Canyon trial day may have saved time and effort. I hope you enjoy the gravel riding / bikepacking on what ever bike. All the best.
Thank you for watching and commenting! I H-H-H hhhate front derailleurs. Plus 1x12 GRX just came out. If they have 1x12 with 51 tooth cassette for mountain bike they should also offer it for one by gravel. Good point on Canyon trial day but i'm not sure if these little things would have come to light with a short test ride.
Great quality of the video! Should have way more views!
thanks! maybe it will soon🤞🏻
Well you just pushed me towards Revel Rover...Thank you
I just parted with my Grizl and picked up a pre-owned Rover frame. Yay!
Thanks for really informative review, especially this kind of long term review! Been really helpful to me as I'm trying to decide between Grizl AL 8 1by and Trek Checkpoint ALR 5.
Glad it was helpful!
I got the Canyon Grizl AL GRX 820 2x drive train 2 years ago. Overall I am very happy with this bike and had no issues with it at all. I did change the handlebar to a wider and more flared bar. I purchased the Canyon top tube bag and half frame bag. Their zippers failed and certainly did not last very long. I found that the gear specs with this bike was adequate for most of the riding I do but once I started going on bike packing trips this set up is totally under geared. Yes , there is enough gearing for keeping the bike rolling on the flats and downhills but with a 46/30 and a 11x36 cassette you start walking as soon as the trail goes uphill. I fixed that issue by exchanging the cassette to an 11x40. Problem solved. A 1x drive train either doesn’t have enough lower gears or enough higher gears. So if you are planning to go touring with this bike choose a 2x set up
thanks for commenting. Yeah.....a bike marketing for bikepacking should be geared appropriately for loads 50 lbs+. For bikepacking bags, hands down the best bags are from Dispersed Bikepacking Gear. They use burly monster zippers that do not fail. check them out at dispersed.bike
6:10 My cursed synapse from lame cannondale had a serious problem and they didn't honor their warranty. Its FSA was also flexy and didn't like it, replaced it with an ultegra, but of course because bike is cursed (had many problems) crankset is prone to breaks (recalled)... hahah
Yeah I’ll never buy or get anything FSA again.
Love the honest review! Thanks!
Thanks for watching! 🙏🏻
I thought you were talking comparative bikes when you mentioned both the Rover and the Grizl. I was surprised to find out the Rover is 7k versus 2.5k for the current Grizl. I may have to look past a couple of minor concerns.
Yeah true. My friend had a Rover so it was the closest thing to benchmark against. I ended up selling the Grizl frame and now have a pre-owned Revel Rover and love it.
Excelent review, thanks a lot . Really helped me with bike (non)purchase decision :)
Glad to hear that
Finaly a real review of a bike great work. You have forgot to mention that it is 3% lighter and 3km/h faster at 200km/h wind speed.
Thank you for watching! Haha so true. This is probably because i'm a mountain bikepacker reviewing a gravel bike and not a roadie.
I have the same bike as the one reviewed, and I’ve had it for a similar period of time, and put around 2,500 miles on it. I also wouldn’t buy it again, and regret going with canyon. I’m 6’1 and I bought a large (against canyons advice they put me on a medium) and compared to my other bikes it even feels slightly cramped. My grizl is on its second bottom bracket and already due for a third. the finish and paint on the frame also feels really poor compared to my specialized mtb’s, and my epic evo a full-sus that only cost 1200 more weighs around the same. I’ve owned dozens of bikes and this is one of the few I’ve never fallen in love with. Really all I can say is buy something else, their are better options even if they’re more costly. I do find solace that the bike is already near my dollar per mile ridden goal (a silly one) but hopefully I’ll be replacing it soon.
Thanks for watching and your feedback. Seems to line up exactly with my thoughts. Sizing, bottom bracket, weight, etc...
Bought Trek Checkpoint ARL in stead of Canyon Grizl, and iam toyally happy with that decision. That canyon had some unusual downsides. Standard parts was essential for me
The Checkpoint seems like a nice entry level aluminum gravel bike. Whats the weight on yours? Thats probably the only downside over carbon for the same price point.
Very helpful. Looking for my first Gravel bike. I have a Cannondale Road and TT bikes and a Specialized Mtn bike, wanted to try another brand, but preferably with time tested Shimano components...looking at the current market, it seems that everything is made in China today (to include Cannondale) My CADD 8 was 07, and proudly made in the USA. I heard Canyon might be German? Or German designed and made in Chana...Google search next. Thank you again.
If you really want to go with Made in the USA you'll have to go with a titanium frame which would be a good option - especially for adventure biking. There are tons of Ti manufacturers in the US but Moots and Chumba come to mind. chumbausa.com/made-in-usa-gravel-bikes
Immensely helpful. TYVM!👍👍👍
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Sadly i regret my Grizl (AL)
Even though it provided me with many great experiences.
Ive had it for 1,5 years and put around 13.500km into it, ridden all-year round. And besides a few smaller gripes (Like ugly thru axles with handles), there are two big reasons why I cant recommend it:
1) the steerer size. I know that it was mentioned here, but my god. I didnt know that pretty much only Canyon and giant uses this. This means you have very limited options when it comes to: headcaps, Headsets, spacers, forks and stems. Especially stems are very important, because they are very individual.
I had the misfortune, that my steerer tube was simply chaved, apparently from the upper Headset bearing rubbing (yes, everything was tightened down properly). Leaving a dent, which made the fork rattle and thus the size of the chaved area increased because the rattling created more friction. So, lets get that fork replaced asap i thought. Well, you cant find anything that fits. I checked many big online retailers, couldnt find a single fork. So, i Had to contact Canyon, which leads me to...
2) warranty only applies when you Bring your bike to a shop that is a Canyon Partner. In a City of 3million people and hundreds of Bike Shops, there are two, who are partnered with Canyon, and that althought i live in Europe where Canyon is more established. So ironically, choosing the giant Bike manufacturer Made me feel so much more Limited in my Options. When my Rose Bike needed fixing, i could simply get it to any Bike Shop and Just had to send them the bill.
But it gets better, while I DO have to Credit Canyon that they stood by their warranty (fork was free to replace), it took about 7 weeks to replace it! Simply because of the unnecessary long Chain: i had to contact a very busy Shop (and it was offseason), Bring in Bike, Shop Checks it, shop contacts Canyon, Canyon Checks Case, Canyon sends parts, Bike Shop installs parts. And since they didnt have the color of my frame anymore, im now stuck with a fork that has a completely unfitting color and even a different Finish (Glossy instead of Matte). A fork I cant replace even If Id want to spend the Money out of my own pocket.
Thank you. I am researching gravel bikes to purchase one for my own Christmas present Is Rebal Rove what you referred to?
Hi thanks for watching. Yes I mentioned the Revel Rover. If I were to buy again, I would probably buy a Revel Rover but would wait until they have a 1x12 gearing version with more range for heavy bikepacking loads. Shimano just released their 1x12 GRX.
Well said and thanks for the review, my biggest hang up on the bike, on paper is the limited gearing. Think I ll look elsewhere or go for the 2x
Thank you for watching 🙏🏻. I just put on a 46T cassette instead of the stock 42T hoping that will tide me over until I can upgrade to a 1x12 down the road.
I am surprised how many of these gravel / bike packing bikes come set up with the 11/42 cassette. I think we need a bigger range for the bigger hills with a lot of gear.@@TheEnduranceStudio
Does the Grizl have any way to attach a rear rack for panniers rather than those floppy and sometimes (from what I’ve heard) hard to unpack seat tube packs?
Do too know of any good links on the Revel Rover? Thanks for the video!
It appears the Carbon Fiber version of the Grizl only has interior mounts on the seat stays for fenders and nothing for pannier racks. The Aluminum version (Grizl AL) does have pannier mounts and is heavily advertised as such. Seat bags have come a long ways and I'd suggest either going with something minimal like the Revelate Shrew or you could go with something super stable like the Ortileb Seat-Pack QR which is stable and removes quickly. I agree seat bags are a bit tricky to use just have to pack them smartly when your wrecked haha.
Love the video! Question about sizing, do you think size small will work for me? Im 5’6” with 30in inseam. Canyon recommend xs to me but xs small are out of stock. Thanks!
Thanks for watching. Yikes I'm not sure about sizing. What I can say is I was hesitant to get the small size that Canyon recommended and regret not test riding a small and medium first. On paper the frame sizing on the Grizl Small is close to the Revel Rover Medium but the ride is completely different. Do you tend to size up or down on other bikes?
I think the Grizl would be cool with a 10-51 and maybe 36t up front, GRX seems almost too roady for it and you want some serious granny gears on some of those FSR climbs.
totally agree.
They just released the new 1x12 grx in EU at least. Comes with a 11-45 but you can fit a 11-51 just by changing the pulley.
nice video. Thanks for the honesty!
Always!
Thanks for the video!
I'm seriously considering buying a Grizl!
Thanks for watching! I just replaced the FSA crankset it came with for a Shimano GRX 600 and put on a 11-46T cassette. I'm hoping this solves a couple of my gripes with the bike. It's a great deal to get a fully carbon fork and frame for the money, just some quirks. I'm going to hold onto it until I can get a good deal on a 1x12 GRX bike. Good luck let me know what you end up doing.
@TheSeasonedBikepacker Thanks again! That's very interesting, and I'm glad you're enjoying it. Will do!
The grizl is amazing, cycling through the forest is so much fun but if you drive on the road and wanna be fast these 45mm wheels consume too much energy
@@xrenx4921 Thanks for the info!
@@TheEnduranceStudioThey dropped the 12 speed today, at least in EU.
I was gonna get one to be fair, but i'll think i'll stick to a Titanium or Steel gravel bike with external bottom bracket as they are built to last...!!! Let's be honest here, bikes of a decent spec are not cheap these days, thanks for the eye opening review :)
If you're going to have it for the long haul, you can't go wrong with a Ti bike. I've heard really good things about the Revel R+. Also i'm a threaded BB guy for life.
Really good review. I was thinking of getting one of these but I think the Scott Addict Gravel and ROSE back road are nicer bikes. Something kinda cheap looking about the paint style on this particular Canyon grail.
thanks for watching. The Addict Gravel is a good looking bike. Agreed on the paint. Let me know what you end up with and how you like it.
how about tow overlap for size M? From what I was reading there is a major issue with tow overlap
Yeah tow overlap is tight.
@@TheEnduranceStudio thanks for the info, probably will go with Lauf Sigla.
Size fit reccomendation: never look at the top tube length and reach length without looking at seat tube angle. ST Angle determines the reach. Steeper the angle, longer the reach. That said, modern MTB and Gravel bikes usually have steeper ST angles which leads to reach figures...
Thanks for that tip! Maybe i'm thinking off here but does a steeper seat tube angle move the seat closer to the handlebars, therefore shortening the reach?
@@TheEnduranceStudio yes it moves body postion forward which means that Reach (distance measured from BB to stem/handlebars) must increase accordingly...
in the road.. is it fast/responsive?
With the regular 45mm tires no
thank you, what tires do you suggest for gravel but fast on the road? @@xrenx4921
I run 45cm Maxxis Ramblers. I'm 160 lbs with gear and run 29 psi in the rear and 27 up front. This is a nice balance between gravel compliance and rolling speed on road. Its by no means fast on the road when compared to a road bike, however this balance makes it capable for mixed terrain use.
I'm 178 cm tall (5'10). Is small a good choice for me? According to sizing table I'm in the middle territory between S and M.
i'm 5'8" and thought I could likely size up. You may seriously consider sizing up to the medium.
@@TheEnduranceStudio but is there any advantage of sizing up?
@@RG-cc3lq it will be a little more stable but less twitchy. I prefer this on bikes but it’s really a preference e
@@RG-cc3lq sizing up will make the bike feel more stable and less twitchy. For a gravel bike, this is what I prefer.
@@TheEnduranceStudiogreat. Thanks for the advice. What do you think about Grizl 5? It’s new model and there are not many reviews
Thanks for your sharing, Sir. I'm also planning a cycling trip in beautiful Iceland in the upcoming 2024. Do you see any problems while cycling in Iceland? Maybe any advice? Thanks a lot!
Iceland was amazing! Expensive but amazing. I very much enjoyed the culture and the utilitarian and independent nature of most of the people. I pretty much cover all my ups and downs about doing a self-supported trip in my Iceland video here ruclips.net/video/b9D4YQwWsVM/видео.html . The biggest challenges were 1) finding good resupply - i'm used to a 24hr McD or CircleK being everywhere - not in iceland! 2) figuring out travel/transportation 3) Headwinds (go as aero as possible) 4) cost of everything.
Feel free to ask me about any more specifics if you'd like after you watch the video.
@@TheEnduranceStudio much much appreciated! Will definitely take a close look!
So you didn’t give the Canyon seat post issue refund back to Canyon?
No. I returned the Easton AX and sold the Iridium Post on ebay and ended up with an Easton EC70 Carbon Rigid Post. I found the dropper on this bike is a bit ridiculous. I came out with some extra money for my hassle.
I measured out a Small....it has a been a REALLY long time since I was told to get a small size anything.
Totally I felt the same way. But apparently it’s the German/euro sizing system.
Thanks so much for this review. I was thinking about this bike hard.
No problem 👍
What is your saddle height (bb to top saddle) in the video? I'm right in between XS and S for sizing and am not sure what size to go for.
Unfortunately, I don’t have this bike anymore.
What's your thoughts on the Canyon Grail Generation 2 that was just released?
Hey Mr Truth. I'd need to give it a good beating to really get to the bottom of things. But a few thoughts: Finally some flared bars - yay! The integrated frame storage is a great concept, but wonder how it would fair after days on end - could be really cool, could also break. Also the bag has a Fidlock magnetic attachment system which makes me nervous. I prefer a positive lock sort of situation (velcro) going on with essentials in my frame bag. Lastly on the seatpost - "That’s why the Grail uses newly developed tube shapes, an updated seatpost". Does this mean they redesigned the seatpost or the clamp? The pics look like it still has the plastic insert single bolt clamp thingy.
you had to ask for replacement of a bent crankset
I highly doubt that they would have refused to change it
I wish I would have noticed it sooner after I received the bike. It didn't really effect the performance, just annoying. What did effect the performance was the premature wear on the crap FSA chainring so I started getting dropped chains all the time. I switched to GRX and never looked back.
@@TheEnduranceStudio I read several reports on Reddit that Canyon was reimbursing folks who complained about the FSA crankset and switched to GRX. May want to hit them up.
Great Video! Thank you for it!
at 10:13 - you are wishing buying another cassette or "2by model"? what do you mean here?
I am about to buy a bike, but I will be pulling an extra 20kg stroller so the extra low gear is a must have. Thank you for the response!
Thanks for watching. If I were to ever bikepack with this heavy load again on this bike, I would buy the model with 2 chainrings in the front and a front derailleur. This would give me more range and a better low climbing ‘granny gear’. I really like the simplicity of a 1x setup, tho. So I compromised and put a cassette on there with a slightly larger big cog to have slightly easier climbing.
@@TheEnduranceStudio Thank you! Any suggestions to a bike model nowadays (US)?
I guess it depends on your budget. Since I didn't have the greatest experience with the Canyon Grizl, I have a hard time recommending it. I ended up selling my Grizl and buying a pre-owned Revel Rover which I absolutely love, but its much more expensive than the Grizl. Will you be doing endurance rides and bikepacking or staying on roads / urban trails?
@@TheEnduranceStudio thanks for the follow up. Mostly they will be short up to 2days rides, together with wife pulling daughter... mostly (relatively) well maintained gravel or dirt roads(50%), forest trails (15%), greenways/asphalts (30%) . Sands/Mud - very rarely (5%). Budget definitely below $2000
Thank you once more for the answer I spent on the research already a week and I am back at the entry point ;)
@@B0mb4rd1n0 for that price the best bang for your buck may just be the Grizl 7 aluminum. its 2by, and will allow you to attach racks and stuff. It looks like it has a standard seatpost clamp system and shimano GRX components. I'd to this for 2K or under. www.canyon.com/en-us/gravel-bikes/adventure/grizl/al/grizl-7/3715.html?dwvar_3715_pv_rahmenfarbe=R075_P04
Canyon really doesn't pay attention during assembly and shipping. They gave me a frankenbike too, without first confirming with me whether I'm ok with it. I'd rather have a complete flawless product than be bothered writing tickets and waiting for stuff to arrive. Sold the Canyon and bought Specialized instead. Worth the money. I can just go to the shop and have stuff fixed for free when it's covered by warranty.
sound like a similar experience to mine. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Firstly, great video production! I'm surprised that you said you wouldn't buy the Canyon Grizl again, it sounds like you have it a hammering and it stood up well. On the gearing, since your OCD is triggered on the front chainring - can you upgrade to a 2x to give you the additional gearing for steeper climbs?
Thank you for watching. I've had a new problem develop with the front chainring constantly dropping the chain. I put on a new chain, checked the clutch on the rear der and it still drops. This didn't happen until recently so only thing I can think is the substituted FSA chainring is worn already. I looked for a wolf tooth 40T chainring and can't find one with the 120mm BCD on this crank. So I've opted to replace it with a GRX rx600 crankset like it should have had from the start. This will definitely fix the wavy chainring 🤣. Also i'm going to put on 165mm cranks instead of the 170 since I have stumpy legs. Also the cassette is worn so i'm going to replace with a 46t instead of 42t - hoping this provides a slight bit more of range.
@@TheEnduranceStudio I have a Fuji Jari with an FSA crankset and it's definitely wavey. I even replaced it with another FSA crankset and that one was wavey also. I think it's a feature at this point.
🤣 they offer proprietary wavvy design haha.
Your insights on the Grizl were thought-provoking. I'm curious to know if having the right cranks from the start would have significantly altered your overall assessment. Additionally, you mentioned a preference for a threaded bottom bracket over a press-fit one; did you encounter any specific issues with the press-fit during your extensive testing?
hey thanks for watching and commenting. It would have been nice to get the better quality cranks from the start but I don't think it would have changed my overall assessment. The seat post clamp was super super frustrating. I did have some clicks in the drivetrain but could never nail it down to the BB. I actually am picking up a Revel Rover frame today and will be moving the parts over to that. It will be interesting to see if I still have the drivetrain click with all the same parts but a threaded BB instead. Cheers.
@@TheEnduranceStudio Thanks for your honest response. Enjoy your new bike day and many click-free rides! :-)
Thank you
You're welcome! I appreciate you watching.
Hey Dylan, I have a grizl al 6 (1500 bucks) the one with the grx 400, 2x10. I used mine like you used yours.
I came up with this conclusion :
It's a great bike especially for Randoneur tours/ bike packing.
I bout a wolftooth and a 11-42 cassette, so now my lowest gear is 30 in the front an 42 in the back. This gives my a lot of range for steeper climbers I did in the alps.
The stem problem is a real one , but canyon offers now with the new grail various options on other stem lengths, befor you just had to buy the 140 bucks megaforce from syntech.
With this changes it's really a great one to do it all bike . I don't have any problems with aluminium , I prefers it over carbon tbh. For 1500 it's the best you can get
Thank you for watching and providing your valuable feedback/experience!
The Grizl is to relaxed?`It has the same geometry as there Ultimate racebike ...
thanks for watching. Yeah when comparing to the Revel Rover. The frame geo on the rover makes it feel a bit more on top of the front wheel and this is less so on the Grizl.
Is the Frame made in China?
Taiwan I think
The Canyon 6 year warranty is a joke. Don't buy a Canyon bike based on the 6 year warranty. It won't be honored.
Can you elaborate? Did this experience happen to you? What did they end up doing/saying?
BikePacking NEEDS 2x .. 1x is only for weekenders and racers only ! You should have told Canyon to stick the FSA cranks "where the sun don't shine" as they have NEVER made a worthwhile product of any description. You can easily straighten the chainring with an adjustable wrench - plenty of YT vids on doing that, it's the same as for discs. Why don't you have the Canyon split seatpost, it's light comfortable as it privides "suspension" to your saddle, as BikePacker you'd find that a big plus. In all, I don;t think you have enough experience to make videos, you maybe need to watch some more and learn from them.
Thanks for watching. Agreed the FSA crankset is garbage and in hindsight I would have refused the replacement from Canyon. I just replaced with a GRX and won't look back. You live and learn!
Unfortunately canyon has a lot of issues in the aftersale department. Support seems to be terrible and I have heard a lot of horror stories about their bikes braking. Their trusted shop reviews speak for themselves even if it is a lot more likely that people with bad experience give it a review. I have the same bad experience for the big stores with countless bikes because they lack the service. It's just a shame if you have a warranty issue and the bike is gone for 2 months or your next service appointment will be in 9 weeks.
I rather buy something in a smaller shop that's known for good service.
Canyon bikes are great on paper and they look amazing but their aggressive marketing can't cover up the points above.
Thanks for watching. True this is a big downside to direct to consumer over the brick and mortar bike shop model and this is risk to take if you go this route. I've learned how to do all the maintenance myself from youtube videos and have multiple bikes so sending one back for warranty is just a hiccup. I've heard Canyon support isn't good from other but my experience was just he opposite - the support was great! The bike is solid if you can get over the oddities.
@@TheEnduranceStudio I dont know about the US but here in europe Canyon has service centers, there is one where I live.
Never use "environmentally friendly" when buying something new.
haha true. I have enough ebay Patagonia Puffy jackets that have a tiny bit of paint splatter or a hole I sewed up that hopefully that makes up for it.