You'll correct me if I missed it but I didn't notice you discussing when you give the final watering before harvest, as in is it more beneficial to water right up to harvest or let them dry up somewhat before the chop?! Excellent discussion by the way. Thanks for this.
Allison's intellectual honesty is so refreshing. Some people might confuse it for insecurity or under-confidence in their own knowledge or ability, but i believe being honest about what you do and do not know is the hallmark of someone who approaches learning in a way that allows them to learn the most. So many people in the industry are egotistical and defensive and very rigid in their beliefs, and it's so nice to get a break from that!
ABSOLUTELY!!! It takes a VERY confident and secure researcher to flat out say 'We just don't know yet.... We are working on it... We'll get back to you when we have FACTS for you..." I SO much prefer that rather than half-assed bro-science that no one can prove....
You hit the nail on the head, I have always heard that intelligent people are the ones who will say I don’t know. It is always best to just be honest with yourself, you can’t grow if your not
This episode was very intriguing and informative. I really appreciate when an expert is knowledgeable, humble and honest enough to admit when they have not yet reached all of the conclusions that they are striving to achieve. Dr Allison Justice demonstrates all of those qualities. Thank you Chris for another fantastic episode of Garden Talk!
Enzymatic browning sounds so plausible honestly, it would make a lot of sense. It's so true though that this plant is not nearly as cut and dry as it's treated by many people. Loving this episode.
So many different land races so they all have certain things they like or don’t like. Some strains can survive almost freezing temps, some can survive in 90 degree heat. All depends. I just think about the country it’s from and try to mimic their environment 😂. I put electric wires on my afghani strains. With all the IEDs they had, the plants got used to it. 🤧🤧
Idk if it's the same Allison I knew for a very brief period in first grade before she moved away but congratulations on your PhD. Thanks for sharing with us. I like your accent and is what brought back a 40 year or so memory.😊
People just have to remember this is a plant that is consumed so taste and preference will always be a huge factor regardless of the science. I like to think of it like this: you can get into the science of caramelizing an onion and how long and what exact temps to do it at to get the max amount of sugars or whatever, but the science can't say, "therefore this is your favorite way to consume an onion".
As far as what to do before harvest. I adopted the Dr Bugbee 24-48 hours of light before cut and have to say the first run came out super clean. And this next run i can tell it became frostier and looked more mature/finished after the 36hours of light. ❤ You should definitely give it a try on some clones and see if you can tell a difference!
Perfect timing as I’m at day 7 of week 8 of GG4. Always good to get more information no matter how many years we’ve been into this. Great show as always.
Mr Growit slowly morphing into Eminem 😂 Appreciate the video. Been following Dr Justice and her videos on RUclips. She's a wealth of knowledge and I've learned a lot. If the greenrush ever comes to the UK, I'll be ready.
great stuff, thing is size of the buds you're drying or drying the plant as a whole.The best smoke I had was from a whole plant that took around 3 - 4 weeks to fully dry. I've never dried under 2 weeks and no real problems.
I was getting those huge spikes in humidity because I have an open 110 gallon turtle tank in my home. Just mounted a dehumidifier above the turtle tank to take away the immediate humidity and then another in the 4x8 flowering tent. Humidifier is off and I just let the dehumidifier take water out and heat up the air because its winter. I don't track temps or humidity of the hanging room itself which is separate from the grow room, just the overall conditions within the home to ensure I'm not responding to subtle changes and causing spikes myself, about 70f and 45%. The bigger area you keep the same conditions, the more consistant it is compared to a small room or tent where temp or humidity can spike 5-10 f/rh. I just hang and wait for the hay smell to go away which is about 7-10 days, about 2-3 days after the smell cleans up I trim and jar everything. Jars are opened only occassionaly. This works for me, never seen mold and smoke is great.
This was very interesting. I think unless you get it right once and totally wrong once. You will never realize how much of a difference drying and curing even makes.
😊 highly agree. U gotta f up real bad and get mad at yourself before you do good. Or at least that's how it went here. We think we know until we listen to a real scientist 😊
For what it's worth all these questions can and will be answered by you through practice growing this beautiful plant over and over and over. Find YOUR sweet spot. And when you get it right you'll know!! Love and respect fom NY
that was an amazing video!! Her answers were perfect. We really don't know the answers to far too many questions. She really seems to be pushing the science and I love it!!
Flushing i( leaching ) is done to rid the substrate of salts and risidual nutrients to force the plavt to use up the nutrients in its leaves. Hence the fade and gets a jump on the breakdown of chlorophyll .
Cannatrol is basically a mini fridge with thermoelectric cooling unit. The part used to cool is called a peltier device, which is basically an electronic device with a hot side and cold side. They install heatsink and cooling fan on hot side, the cooler it is the colder the cold side will be. Then use temp controller to cycle electronics on and off via setpoints. They don’t cool as well as standard refrigeration unit, but they also don’t play havoc on relative humidity within the space.
The more my sister talks, the more my sister makes sense! I am very clean with my grows and extremely delicate with my harvests,... filtration, proper temp, and drying within 7 days and you will have the best of that harvest. I also like to point out that if all buds are cut from the main stem, the curing process takes place in a much more consistent and controllable manner. leaving buds on the main stem makes them live too long post harvest! ANd you know this Man!
I've found just the opposite, I've got to say. The plant, in both stem, branch, and leaf, has a ton of stored secondary metabolites that are osmoticaly drawn into the flower as it is drying, adding terpenes and additional cannabinoids that would otherwise not become available if the flowers were cut from the stems before hanging. I give my plants at least 14 days, if not 20 or more, at 50°f and 60% rh, and the results are far far superior in every metric than giving them only 7 and detaching them from the stem. I've tried em all, trust me. There's a lot of processes going on in the plant still, during the hang, that get shut down completely doing it that way.
I am taking mine to get it tested next week and will let you know the test results,... I used to just stuff all my weed in a box and bag it two weeks later and had better results than any of my people, but the product is supreme,.. I have dehydrated this bud and its still 10 times better tasting than anything I have ever bought. I am editing a video now if you want to see tiny pure super tasty nugs,.. the test will speak louder than my small buds... lol! I grew for yield for 30 years and now that it is legal I grow for the highest terps and potency. one week flush and all organic tea makes my cure less tedious. If I were still using high EC and advanced nutrients, I would flush two weeks and cure for two weeks, still having some residual chem taste for another week after that, so I do agree with your tech for sure, but have some veganic beauties that get you high like toad venom leaving you with a great high and great taste when trance subsides! lol! @@johnadams3800
@@k.pliskin3214 supreme cleanliness but not supreme potency... 22%thc... I still think the test was a bit off but,.. new strains in the grow room now... I thought I would hit 30% thc, and can't wait to smoke a strain that really has 30% because 22% seems strong for me,... purity is there and taste is fantastic, no real test for that, but my weed is average tested according to results,...
Fantastic info and future info. All those questions brought up are highly anticipated by me. Please have her back. Of course, I just realized this is 6 months ago. Maybe soon. Thnx
I’ve had bud with all Amber trichomes. You can see it with your eyes!! They were so big and it was the most potent weed I’ve ever smoked. It was a Gorilla Glue. I threw up from coughing so hard, and I’m known to NEVER COUGH. Even when I take dabs I won’t cough. This bud was just special man, 2 hits and you would be in another world! I’d look at my nightstand and 80% of the blunt was still there!! While I’m in another world recovering from my coughing 😂.
Chris, this was a fantastic episode, and Dr. Allison explained scientific ideas very well. I too am most interested in the science of cannabis. I have two questions that weren't covered: 1.) if 60º is good, and 33-44º is also good for long term sealed glass storage, what about freezing the sealed jars? OK or not? 2.) Does Doc think that vacuum sealing the lids on mason jars would allow for longer storage without browning, etc., even better than not vacuuming sealing the jars? Thanks again for a great science episode with someone that's truly not a bro' science individual!
I've had this experience before multiple times, but always with purple cultivars. I wonder if it has to do with the effects of smoking high concentrations of anthocyanins?
I like how informative that was. About the research process and how funding works. Interested to see her future work. Didn’t know they were that hard into cigarette composition
Great episode watched the whole thing. Back in the late 70's had a few beers at Tcubed. Got to look into a wine frig now. And glass is my preferred storage container. Remember in the world of joints spit is the glue that holds everything together
Colder to a point. Don't freeze dry your stuff. Or get too cold while finishing. If using a freezer vacuum seal it. If trying to hold long term maybe think about concentrates. I know lots of people holding and can't sell much because prices. If I like the concentrate I do try growing it. Willing to pay for ip. Hoping to see if a grow spot gives prepper taste and gives me sneezes. Or if clone #4 was a mutated cut. Hoping to find kraken black pepper and place in that spot. Basswood blooms every other year gives more of floral taste. The cold frost seems to really up the smell of skunk and cheese. Great show.
This was an outstanding podcast! Great work Chris! Thank you Chris and Dr. Justice for your passion and pursuit of truth through scientific research. I can’t wait to see Dr. Justice’s testing data this year.
What a treat! As usual, Chris, you provide such AWESOME content! You teach us growers things that we didn't even know we needed to know... but now we know) Many channels have 15 minute videos that are just too long to watch... Yours can be an HOUR, and I'm disappointed when they end.,.. Thank you, Chris. And BIG thank you to Doctor Justice (sounds like a super-hero name) for sharing your immense knowledge with us... This was an hour well spent!!
That's the 1 thing I really think helps get huge buds. Bending the plant over to make all tops. Works like a charm every time I do it. Even done it in flower cause I ran out of room before.
Great episode, no bro science and she is genuine. I can say for sure not flushing when using synthetics affects the taste and the quality as well as drying too quickly can end up with something smelling like hay! 😂 look forward to seeing her in the future and what she has going on. Getting better with time yourself Chris really enjoy your channel bro thanks
Amazing video both of you!! Thanks for all this info. 👍 Chris I’d love to see you go down the small rabbit hole of brewing a microbe tea using high purity oxygen from grandma’s oxygen machine.
...so almost finished with my first indoor cultivation... and I found this video to be extremely enlightening it is just become legal in the state of Ohio add purchased White Widow S1 seeds from Royal Queen seeds and then cloned so far everything that I have learned from watching this channel has helped me to have a completely successful cultivation and I'd like to say thank you I will be harvesting very soon in the next two weeks so this video is perfectly timed to help me finish out
Try a more reputable brand in future grows. I’ve grown RQS, they are not great typically. In House, Exotic Genetix, Ethos, Sunken Treasure Seeds, LIT Farms, Humbolt, Etc etc.
@josephsadler7513 reputable or not this has been looking wonderful and doing great so far but I appreciate you taking time out of your day .... although I was highly aware of there "reputation" there's many factors in play ..... never judge a book by its cover
Awesome Awesome Awesome video and guest👍🏽👍🏽👊🏽… Quality and important information for the industry. .. Question for you, how was the quality of that wine fridge cure ??
About the funding of research - i work for a CRO, not for cannabis but for bioanalytical pharma research. When I client contracts research, they’re not contracting you to provide data that supports their hypothesis or bottom line or whatever, they’re contracting you to produce independent 3rd party data from an unbiased source - so cannatrol contracting that research is a great thing for transparency and reducing bias, not the other way around. We don’t particularly care what our data shows as an independent third party, as long as it’s accurate. If it’s devastating to the client’s product that sucks for them but to us it’s just 🤷🏻♂️ and if it’s what they’re hoping or expecting then great! But we’re all audited to heavily to attempt to skew data to favor the outcome the client wants and we’d be shooting ourselves in the foot to do so, scientific integrity is the only thing keeping us in business.
I have a question about a remark at 20:00 if anyone has insight on the topic; Dr. Allison says that placing harvested flowers in the sun for 10 minutes does a ton of damage, but is there evidence supporting that it's actually the sun and not handling, movement, etc? I ask because outdoor growing comes to mind; sun exposure is already there, and not long before saying that she said that a plant doesn't die when it's cut, and theoretically lives for up to 5 days based on water content. How come the sun becomes a source of damage after the plant is cut compared to moments before harvest growing under the sun? It seems contradictory. I understand it's probably related to UV exposure, but as far as I understand, plant "sunscreen" (UV protective pigments) is created within tissues, so the plant would still be reflecting the same amount of UV right? Besides that, I would think the direct exposure to the trichomes themselves is still the same before and after as well. UV A & B exposure from the sun is what the plant evolved to grow under, and it's been shown to induce additional creation of secondary metabolites when not over-exposed to it. I'm legitimately curious, UV's physical interaction with secondary metabolites is something I've been looking into for a while but it's hard to find much published data on the subject. I do personally believe trichomes can handle UV a lot better than people think though, at least withstanding whatever amount the sun exudes, but there are probably some parts of the puzzle we haven't correlated yet.
I’m no scientist but I make a lot of RSO (FECO) After washing and having a green liquid in a jar if you set it in the sun it can drastically change the color in minutes. I don’t do this but I’ve seen it. This might have nothing to do with your question but reading your comment made me think of that.
I, for one, appreciate it when someone tells me they just don't know the answers because far too many people all speak on shit they don't really know about. I would just rather someone tell e the truth instead of inflating the details out of proportion with what the truth is! It is a sign of credibility to me when someone says they don't know some of the facts being spoken on.
I gravitate to cultivars high in thiols, that sulfur funk. GG4, Cookies, Skunk, Gas kind of strains. The type you could trim leaves in early veg and the smell fills the room. This way, I could pretty much drop the ball and itll still be great. I live on the coast of New England. Weather here is a meme. The houses are 150+ years old and trying to control the climate in such an old house is borderline a fools errand.
I keep seeing people on reddit slow drying their bud in the fridge in paper bags. They swear by it. I may try that with a small portion of my harvest next time.
For sure. The last week or so the water uptake goes down drastically usually. A good sign to go by. I try to time my nute cutoff to that point and start the molasses tea.
if you get a thermoelectric wine fridge its sealed and doesn't pull out moisture. i store my cigars loose in them with bovedas, they're called wineadors
This is off topic but when she mentioned electron microscope and then spores a few moments later I had a flash of thought: What does the inside of a spore look like under an electron microscope?
I've never ever seen flower properly dried in 7 days at 60/60. Ever. I have to go 12 to 14 before it gets to where i really want it. We use proguards in the dry room, which stops botrytis from ever being an issue, though that tech does very little to stymie pm, if you've got it. I've noticed if I keep the dry room at 50°f and 60 to 65, the longer it hangs, the better it becomes. I've gone over month line that in the past, and the results were fantastic. 7 days though? Nope.
That’s what I was thinking. Always 12-21 or so for me pending plant size and stem thickness. They didn’t even mention stem snap during that part of the talk. So is she trimming and jarring at 4-10days with no stem snap on all plants and size? This was weird and not too clarifying….
This is why weed is stuck with bro science forever. Got a doctor of horticulture, specifically in cannabis plant science, telling you to use a moisture meter to get buds to 10% range before jarring. Shows a vpd graph and states 14 days is way too long and dangerous with getting mold. She has seen giant cultivation centers, buds way bigger anything you guys can grow, and suggests her drying times..... and then still have you twats telling every one 14-21 days is fine and it's what you do so its ok. OBVIOUSLY YOU AREN'T DOING IT RIGHT DURRRRR
I’m no dentist but I will comment on a period of darkness before harvest. Osmotic pressure is created by photosynthesis durning the period of darkness plants send starch to the roots. For the case of the tastiest weed and best quality what’s 12 hours of darkness going to cost you
I enjoy growing and curing my own tobacco too, I wonder how much crossover there is to cannabis. The best tobacco actually comes from poor soil. Less harvest but better smoke. Also you pile the plants and ferment in the field, then a slow dry and a second elaborate fermentation. Ive heard the old school brick herb was done in a similiar way, they used to pile it up after harvest and field ferment it before drying. That old brick weed could be pretty nice, the high was always mellow and it made your eyes really red. Ive heard of hawaian bud being wrapped in leaf and buried underground to ferment as well. Traditionally most cultures made hash and aged or cured this as well. We have a long way to go and a lot to explore.
I cant find any good info unfortunately. It would be interesting to experiment with. If you search you can find a little bit on the hawaiian bud being wrapped in leaf and burried. Even the curing process for tobacco is tough to find. I went through a lot of books. Interestingly the native americans would spread the tobacco leaves on the ground early in the morning to catch the dew, and either pile them or hang depending on moisture, they would cure like this for up to a year.
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Nice.
What is her fb?
I mostly watch the videos on there it’s easyer for me to navigate
This talk = 🔥
You'll correct me if I missed it but I didn't notice you discussing when you give the final watering before harvest, as in is it more beneficial to water right up to harvest or let them dry up somewhat before the chop?!
Excellent discussion by the way. Thanks for this.
Allison's intellectual honesty is so refreshing. Some people might confuse it for insecurity or under-confidence in their own knowledge or ability, but i believe being honest about what you do and do not know is the hallmark of someone who approaches learning in a way that allows them to learn the most. So many people in the industry are egotistical and defensive and very rigid in their beliefs, and it's so nice to get a break from that!
ABSOLUTELY!!! It takes a VERY confident and secure researcher to flat out say 'We just don't know yet.... We are working on it... We'll get back to you when we have FACTS for you..." I SO much prefer that rather than half-assed bro-science that no one can prove....
You hit the nail on the head, I have always heard that intelligent people are the ones who will say I don’t know. It is always best to just be honest with yourself, you can’t grow if your not
@@MouldySponge good take
This episode was very intriguing and informative. I really appreciate when an expert is knowledgeable, humble and honest enough to admit when they have not yet reached all of the conclusions that they are striving to achieve. Dr Allison Justice demonstrates all of those qualities. Thank you Chris for another fantastic episode of Garden Talk!
Enzymatic browning sounds so plausible honestly, it would make a lot of sense. It's so true though that this plant is not nearly as cut and dry as it's treated by many people. Loving this episode.
I get the pun. Very clever 🤓
It's a real thing
Eh if that's true then let's get sweeter buds
So many different land races so they all have certain things they like or don’t like. Some strains can survive almost freezing temps, some can survive in 90 degree heat. All depends. I just think about the country it’s from and try to mimic their environment 😂. I put electric wires on my afghani strains. With all the IEDs they had, the plants got used to it. 🤧🤧
These talks are unbelievable valuable and this one is no exception! Thanks Dr. Justice for your insights! :)
Yeah I agree, one of the best informational podcasts on the tube….. always good stuff
Idk if it's the same Allison I knew for a very brief period in first grade before she moved away but congratulations on your PhD. Thanks for sharing with us. I like your accent and is what brought back a 40 year or so memory.😊
People just have to remember this is a plant that is consumed so taste and preference will always be a huge factor regardless of the science. I like to think of it like this: you can get into the science of caramelizing an onion and how long and what exact temps to do it at to get the max amount of sugars or whatever, but the science can't say, "therefore this is your favorite way to consume an onion".
As far as what to do before harvest. I adopted the Dr Bugbee 24-48 hours of light before cut and have to say the first run came out super clean. And this next run i can tell it became frostier and looked more mature/finished after the 36hours of light. ❤
You should definitely give it a try on some clones and see if you can tell a difference!
This is such an amazing channel, I'm so glad we get discussions from people in the industry that are pushing research that is applicable to everyone
A super nice balanced discussion on the enigmatic topics of drying, curing and storing ... bravo!
As always you have this great way to talk to people and get us to understand the content, Thank you for all you do !!!!
Perfect timing as I’m at day 7 of week 8 of GG4. Always good to get more information no matter how many years we’ve been into this. Great show as always.
Mr Growit slowly morphing into Eminem 😂 Appreciate the video. Been following Dr Justice and her videos on RUclips. She's a wealth of knowledge and I've learned a lot. If the greenrush ever comes to the UK, I'll be ready.
I see the resemblance 😊
One of my favorite episodes ever from any of your channels. Big respect for the knowledge!
The best discussion I've heard about this topic hands down. Great work putting this one together Chris.
Solid info, this one needs to be rewatched
I disagree. I don't think she knows what she's talking about
@@gtavtheavengergunnerlegend3340 well we will agree to disagree then.
I think I know why you gonna rewatch this 🤣
@@GalloVerdesFarms lol huh?
@@WatchCLtv I was jokin that u gonna rewatch because she’s one smart hot plant momma lmao! 😂🤣
great stuff, thing is size of the buds you're drying or drying the plant as a whole.The best smoke I had was from a whole plant that took around 3 - 4 weeks to fully dry. I've never dried under 2 weeks and no real problems.
That episode was outstanding! Great information in this interview. Super useful, thanks.
I was getting those huge spikes in humidity because I have an open 110 gallon turtle tank in my home. Just mounted a dehumidifier above the turtle tank to take away the immediate humidity and then another in the 4x8 flowering tent. Humidifier is off and I just let the dehumidifier take water out and heat up the air because its winter. I don't track temps or humidity of the hanging room itself which is separate from the grow room, just the overall conditions within the home to ensure I'm not responding to subtle changes and causing spikes myself, about 70f and 45%. The bigger area you keep the same conditions, the more consistant it is compared to a small room or tent where temp or humidity can spike 5-10 f/rh. I just hang and wait for the hay smell to go away which is about 7-10 days, about 2-3 days after the smell cleans up I trim and jar everything. Jars are opened only occassionaly. This works for me, never seen mold and smoke is great.
Love this garden talk! It keeps getting better and better.
I love science... Great timing!! Harvesting now.❤️thanks buddy
The man, the myth, the legend… Mr. Grow Daddy!
@@TonyisToking C'MON!!!!
me too, just cut down 4 sherb cream pie's
This discussion came just in time for my harvest. Thank you for bringing this to us!
Thanks for chatting with me! I'll look for you again for another livestream!
This conversation really gets me exited for the future! So refreshing!
This was very interesting. I think unless you get it right once and totally wrong once. You will never realize how much of a difference drying and curing even makes.
😊 highly agree. U gotta f up real bad and get mad at yourself before you do good. Or at least that's how it went here. We think we know until we listen to a real scientist 😊
Always a good time when Chris uploads a podcast! 🔥
For what it's worth all these questions can and will be answered by you through practice growing this beautiful plant over and over and over. Find YOUR sweet spot. And when you get it right you'll know!! Love and respect fom NY
Might be one of the best, most informative episodes to date, heck yeah 🤙
that was an amazing video!! Her answers were perfect. We really don't know the answers to far too many questions. She really seems to be pushing the science and I love it!!
Thanks to Chris & all the Growmies 🤘
I like her.. she's very knowledgeable in the matter
Flushing i( leaching ) is done to rid the substrate of salts and risidual nutrients to force the plavt to use up the nutrients in its leaves. Hence the fade and gets a jump on the breakdown of chlorophyll .
If you dose microbes and enzymes you won’t have to
@@MrJaman0083 microbes and enzymes don’t eat ions.
I am so pumped your back!! keep it coming!!!
Ty Dr Justice and Chris. Great conversation
Cannatrol is basically a mini fridge with thermoelectric cooling unit. The part used to cool is called a peltier device, which is basically an electronic device with a hot side and cold side. They install heatsink and cooling fan on hot side, the cooler it is the colder the cold side will be. Then use temp controller to cycle electronics on and off via setpoints. They don’t cool as well as standard refrigeration unit, but they also don’t play havoc on relative humidity within the space.
The more my sister talks, the more my sister makes sense! I am very clean with my grows and extremely delicate with my harvests,... filtration, proper temp, and drying within 7 days and you will have the best of that harvest. I also like to point out that if all buds are cut from the main stem, the curing process takes place in a much more consistent and controllable manner. leaving buds on the main stem makes them live too long post harvest! ANd you know this Man!
I've found just the opposite, I've got to say. The plant, in both stem, branch, and leaf, has a ton of stored secondary metabolites that are osmoticaly drawn into the flower as it is drying, adding terpenes and additional cannabinoids that would otherwise not become available if the flowers were cut from the stems before hanging. I give my plants at least 14 days, if not 20 or more, at 50°f and 60% rh, and the results are far far superior in every metric than giving them only 7 and detaching them from the stem. I've tried em all, trust me. There's a lot of processes going on in the plant still, during the hang, that get shut down completely doing it that way.
I am taking mine to get it tested next week and will let you know the test results,... I used to just stuff all my weed in a box and bag it two weeks later and had better results than any of my people, but the product is supreme,.. I have dehydrated this bud and its still 10 times better tasting than anything I have ever bought. I am editing a video now if you want to see tiny pure super tasty nugs,.. the test will speak louder than my small buds... lol! I grew for yield for 30 years and now that it is legal I grow for the highest terps and potency. one week flush and all organic tea makes my cure less tedious. If I were still using high EC and advanced nutrients, I would flush two weeks and cure for two weeks, still having some residual chem taste for another week after that, so I do agree with your tech for sure, but have some veganic beauties that get you high like toad venom leaving you with a great high and great taste when trance subsides! lol! @@johnadams3800
@@k.pliskin3214 supreme cleanliness but not supreme potency... 22%thc... I still think the test was a bit off but,.. new strains in the grow room now... I thought I would hit 30% thc, and can't wait to smoke a strain that really has 30% because 22% seems strong for me,... purity is there and taste is fantastic, no real test for that, but my weed is average tested according to results,...
Fantastic info and future info.
All those questions brought up are highly anticipated by me.
Please have her back.
Of course, I just realized this is 6 months ago.
Maybe soon.
Thnx
I've never had a plant have all milky or milky/amber. It's literally always a combination of all 3
I’ve had bud with all Amber trichomes. You can see it with your eyes!! They were so big and it was the most potent weed I’ve ever smoked. It was a Gorilla Glue. I threw up from coughing so hard, and I’m known to NEVER COUGH. Even when I take dabs I won’t cough. This bud was just special man, 2 hits and you would be in another world! I’d look at my nightstand and 80% of the blunt was still there!! While I’m in another world recovering from my coughing 😂.
My new favorito episode!!!! Thank you both!!!!
Coming up on this with my first grow, you all are amazing at what you do and love the show. Thank you Chris!
Chris, this was a fantastic episode, and Dr. Allison explained scientific ideas very well. I too am most interested in the science of cannabis. I have two questions that weren't covered: 1.) if 60º is good, and 33-44º is also good for long term sealed glass storage, what about freezing the sealed jars? OK or not? 2.) Does Doc think that vacuum sealing the lids on mason jars would allow for longer storage without browning, etc., even better than not vacuuming sealing the jars? Thanks again for a great science episode with someone that's truly not a bro' science individual!
thanks to you and dr. justice! ✌
I wish only the best for, support and trust Dr. Justice! Her integrity always shines through. 🙏
Great interview, thank you nice lady 🙂
Great info Dr. Justice !! Keep up the research we appreciate you! You also Chris aka Mr Grow It!!
Great information!
With Modified Grapes I experienced the tingly numb tongue! Very interesting sensation.
I had that experience with a mac variety before!
I've had this experience before multiple times, but always with purple cultivars. I wonder if it has to do with the effects of smoking high concentrations of anthocyanins?
That's where the animal mints etc. strains get the mint in there name. The tingle has been described as minty. I think. 🤔
I totally agree with Allison with generalizing in regard to harvest and trichome color
If the doc gets that tricome study done. What a book that would be. Thanks mr g
I like how informative that was. About the research process and how funding works. Interested to see her future work. Didn’t know they were that hard into cigarette composition
Great guest, and content, Chris. Like you, I am hooked on my Cannatrol. Thanks for all you do for this Community!
Great episode watched the whole thing. Back in the late 70's had a few beers at Tcubed. Got to look into a wine frig now. And glass is my preferred storage container. Remember in the world of joints spit is the glue that holds everything together
Would love more info on your process
Awesome 👏 podcast, goldmine of information; thank you 🙏
Colder to a point. Don't freeze dry your stuff. Or get too cold while finishing. If using a freezer vacuum seal it. If trying to hold long term maybe think about concentrates. I know lots of people holding and can't sell much because prices. If I like the concentrate I do try growing it. Willing to pay for ip. Hoping to see if a grow spot gives prepper taste and gives me sneezes. Or if clone #4 was a mutated cut. Hoping to find kraken black pepper and place in that spot. Basswood blooms every other year gives more of floral taste. The cold frost seems to really up the smell of skunk and cheese. Great show.
This was an outstanding podcast! Great work Chris! Thank you Chris and Dr. Justice for your passion and pursuit of truth through scientific research. I can’t wait to see Dr. Justice’s testing data this year.
I got lucky with some side work so I was able to purchase the Cannatrol! No more drying and curing woes.
What a treat! As usual, Chris, you provide such AWESOME content! You teach us growers things that we didn't even know we needed to know... but now we know) Many channels have 15 minute videos that are just too long to watch... Yours can be an HOUR, and I'm disappointed when they end.,.. Thank you, Chris. And BIG thank you to Doctor Justice (sounds like a super-hero name) for sharing your immense knowledge with us... This was an hour well spent!!
Wow! Learned so much from this interview/guest. Superb.
Helpful tip...pipe cleaners from art's and craft section and big safety pins for LST
That's the 1 thing I really think helps get huge buds. Bending the plant over to make all tops. Works like a charm every time I do it. Even done it in flower cause I ran out of room before.
@dmo848 absolutely, cloth pots easy bend placements..clever and simple 👌
Great episode, no bro science and she is genuine. I can say for sure not flushing when using synthetics affects the taste and the quality as well as drying too quickly can end up with something smelling like hay! 😂 look forward to seeing her in the future and what she has going on. Getting better with time yourself Chris really enjoy your channel bro thanks
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Nice snake plant in the background. I have one from my late grandmother that’s over 30 years old.
Amazing video both of you!!
Thanks for all this info. 👍
Chris I’d love to see you go down the small rabbit hole of brewing a microbe tea using high purity oxygen from grandma’s oxygen machine.
great info!!!! thanks buddy your always bringing great content bro!!!!
...so almost finished with my first indoor cultivation... and I found this video to be extremely enlightening it is just become legal in the state of Ohio add purchased White Widow S1 seeds from Royal Queen seeds and then cloned so far everything that I have learned from watching this channel has helped me to have a completely successful cultivation and I'd like to say thank you I will be harvesting very soon in the next two weeks so this video is perfectly timed to help me finish out
Try a more reputable brand in future grows. I’ve grown RQS, they are not great typically. In House, Exotic Genetix, Ethos, Sunken Treasure Seeds, LIT Farms, Humbolt, Etc etc.
@josephsadler7513 reputable or not this has been looking wonderful and doing great so far but I appreciate you taking time out of your day .... although I was highly aware of there "reputation" there's many factors in play ..... never judge a book by its cover
This was definitely a good one. How about a study on vpd vs latitude origins on different cultivars?
😎👊VERY GREAT PODCAST 👍 👌 AWESOME DRY/CURE INFORMATION
Definitely some great knowledge bombs lol. I always thought my goal was a 2 week dry haha 🤭😳
Already know im gonna love this video...ALL Chris's videos are AWSOME!!! #letchristalk
Great job to both of you!
Awesome Awesome Awesome video and guest👍🏽👍🏽👊🏽… Quality and important information for the industry. .. Question for you, how was the quality of that wine fridge cure ??
this is perfect timing. i chop in like 3-5 days
What a great interview. Would love to hear from her again with the scientific deep dives.
Great timing! Mine are a couple weeks from harvest!
About the funding of research - i work for a CRO, not for cannabis but for bioanalytical pharma research. When I client contracts research, they’re not contracting you to provide data that supports their hypothesis or bottom line or whatever, they’re contracting you to produce independent 3rd party data from an unbiased source - so cannatrol contracting that research is a great thing for transparency and reducing bias, not the other way around. We don’t particularly care what our data shows as an independent third party, as long as it’s accurate. If it’s devastating to the client’s product that sucks for them but to us it’s just 🤷🏻♂️ and if it’s what they’re hoping or expecting then great! But we’re all audited to heavily to attempt to skew data to favor the outcome the client wants and we’d be shooting ourselves in the foot to do so, scientific integrity is the only thing keeping us in business.
AWESOME Show Chris........
I have a question about a remark at 20:00 if anyone has insight on the topic; Dr. Allison says that placing harvested flowers in the sun for 10 minutes does a ton of damage, but is there evidence supporting that it's actually the sun and not handling, movement, etc? I ask because outdoor growing comes to mind; sun exposure is already there, and not long before saying that she said that a plant doesn't die when it's cut, and theoretically lives for up to 5 days based on water content. How come the sun becomes a source of damage after the plant is cut compared to moments before harvest growing under the sun? It seems contradictory.
I understand it's probably related to UV exposure, but as far as I understand, plant "sunscreen" (UV protective pigments) is created within tissues, so the plant would still be reflecting the same amount of UV right? Besides that, I would think the direct exposure to the trichomes themselves is still the same before and after as well. UV A & B exposure from the sun is what the plant evolved to grow under, and it's been shown to induce additional creation of secondary metabolites when not over-exposed to it.
I'm legitimately curious, UV's physical interaction with secondary metabolites is something I've been looking into for a while but it's hard to find much published data on the subject. I do personally believe trichomes can handle UV a lot better than people think though, at least withstanding whatever amount the sun exudes, but there are probably some parts of the puzzle we haven't correlated yet.
I’m no scientist but I make a lot of RSO (FECO)
After washing and having a green liquid in a jar if you set it in the sun it can drastically change the color in minutes. I don’t do this but I’ve seen it.
This might have nothing to do with your question but reading your comment made me think of that.
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Tongue burn can come from several types of nutes used too long into ripening. ex. Silica, sesnsizyme, ect.
Interesting comment, I cut both of these products out at week 4 flower. Salt stress on roots late in flower is a good thing.
Kool interview.
Great episode
Thanks for the knowledge drop! 🔥
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I, for one, appreciate it when someone tells me they just don't know the answers because far too many people all speak on shit they don't really know about. I would just rather someone tell e the truth instead of inflating the details out of proportion with what the truth is! It is a sign of credibility to me when someone says they don't know some of the facts being spoken on.
Just in time for harvest!
Wait a Dr. with cannabis knowledge and a Godfather poster on the wall . I have to get my coffee and sit down.
This was very informative thanks!
Great podcast 😊
Hahaha, i grew up under similar circumstances. I also swore i would end up doing something different. Im 49 and still farming/gardening.
We need more data. Can't wait to see how it turns out.
I gravitate to cultivars high in thiols, that sulfur funk. GG4, Cookies, Skunk, Gas kind of strains. The type you could trim leaves in early veg and the smell fills the room. This way, I could pretty much drop the ball and itll still be great. I live on the coast of New England. Weather here is a meme. The houses are 150+ years old and trying to control the climate in such an old house is borderline a fools errand.
I keep seeing people on reddit slow drying their bud in the fridge in paper bags. They swear by it. I may try that with a small portion of my harvest next time.
Many more signs when a plant is ready for harvest besides trichomes, pistil color and water uptake are a couple.
For sure. The last week or so the water uptake goes down drastically usually. A good sign to go by. I try to time my nute cutoff to that point and start the molasses tea.
Good work as always Chris love your contact
if you get a thermoelectric wine fridge its sealed and doesn't pull out moisture. i store my cigars loose in them with bovedas, they're called wineadors
This is off topic but when she mentioned electron microscope and then spores a few moments later I had a flash of thought: What does the inside of a spore look like under an electron microscope?
I've never ever seen flower properly dried in 7 days at 60/60. Ever. I have to go 12 to 14 before it gets to where i really want it. We use proguards in the dry room, which stops botrytis from ever being an issue, though that tech does very little to stymie pm, if you've got it. I've noticed if I keep the dry room at 50°f and 60 to 65, the longer it hangs, the better it becomes. I've gone over month line that in the past, and the results were fantastic. 7 days though? Nope.
That’s what I was thinking. Always 12-21 or so for me pending plant size and stem thickness.
They didn’t even mention stem snap during that part of the talk. So is she trimming and jarring at 4-10days with no stem snap on all plants and size? This was weird and not too clarifying….
This is why weed is stuck with bro science forever. Got a doctor of horticulture, specifically in cannabis plant science, telling you to use a moisture meter to get buds to 10% range before jarring. Shows a vpd graph and states 14 days is way too long and dangerous with getting mold. She has seen giant cultivation centers, buds way bigger anything you guys can grow, and suggests her drying times..... and then still have you twats telling every one 14-21 days is fine and it's what you do so its ok. OBVIOUSLY YOU AREN'T DOING IT RIGHT DURRRRR
I’m no dentist but I will comment on a period of darkness before harvest.
Osmotic pressure is created by photosynthesis durning the period of darkness plants send starch to the roots.
For the case of the tastiest weed and best quality what’s 12 hours of darkness going to cost you
What an informative show! I learned so much! Great episode Mr Grow it 🎉
I enjoy growing and curing my own tobacco too, I wonder how much crossover there is to cannabis. The best tobacco actually comes from poor soil. Less harvest but better smoke. Also you pile the plants and ferment in the field, then a slow dry and a second elaborate fermentation. Ive heard the old school brick herb was done in a similiar way, they used to pile it up after harvest and field ferment it before drying. That old brick weed could be pretty nice, the high was always mellow and it made your eyes really red. Ive heard of hawaian bud being wrapped in leaf and buried underground to ferment as well. Traditionally most cultures made hash and aged or cured this as well. We have a long way to go and a lot to explore.
Where could I learn more about fermenting after harvest? Appreciate it.
I cant find any good info unfortunately. It would be interesting to experiment with. If you search you can find a little bit on the hawaiian bud being wrapped in leaf and burried. Even the curing process for tobacco is tough to find. I went through a lot of books. Interestingly the native americans would spread the tobacco leaves on the ground early in the morning to catch the dew, and either pile them or hang depending on moisture, they would cure like this for up to a year.
Man that was deep
50:37 sounds like the Titan Submersible
I'm curious after a year of use with the cannatrol do you still use the default settings or have you found a better setting for your liking