45 Y/O S&W Police Slugs - Anti-materiel Sabot Rounds - Tested

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  • Опубликовано: 3 май 2021
  • We have a rare opportunity to test out some unique 12ga. slugs that S&W tried to convince LE agencies would be a good idea to adopt. They claimed they would penetrate automotive engine blocks, which would disable the vehicle. In order to do this, the slug would have to first pass through other obstacles along the way and with luck, it might hit something vital on the engine. Whether or not these slugs were EVER successfully deployed in this manner, we may never know.
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  • @irvan36mm
    @irvan36mm 3 года назад +349

    15:45 Props to Danny for wearing a Kentucky Ballistics shirt for Scott. I’m sure Jeff was wearing one,too.

    • @estebanmurphy1373
      @estebanmurphy1373 3 года назад +19

      Tie it to a string so you don't have to put a thumb in it...

    • @lukearts2954
      @lukearts2954 3 года назад +9

      Yea, after that cynical wink to Scott in the intro with that vest around the chamber... :)

    • @brolohalflemming7042
      @brolohalflemming7042 3 года назад +35

      @@lukearts2954 I don't think it was cynical. Scott's accident just highlighted the potential dangers of old ammo, so safety first.

    • @andie_pants
      @andie_pants 3 года назад +22

      @@lukearts2954 This isn't the first time TFM has done that for safety with unknown rounds.

    • @taofledermaus
      @taofledermaus  3 года назад +47

      We've done that several times.

  • @joecarpenter2447
    @joecarpenter2447 3 года назад +149

    Explosive blanket was the name of my 70s rock band.

    • @greengoblin876
      @greengoblin876 3 года назад +19

      Explosive underwear was what I had after eating too much Chilli

    • @AmazingBilldo
      @AmazingBilldo 3 года назад +2

      @@greengoblin876 never met a pair that would do the job for me!!! 😂

    • @scottyj6226
      @scottyj6226 3 года назад +8

      @@AmazingBilldo chain mail my friend. Just throw it on the bbq to clean.

    • @boo-leeproductionsinc3501
      @boo-leeproductionsinc3501 3 года назад +1

      You and the OG

    • @devil5cry
      @devil5cry 3 года назад +1

      @@greengoblin876 too much 🌮 🤣

  • @philippefrater2000
    @philippefrater2000 3 года назад +106

    We all pray for Scott!
    🖖🏻🇫🇷😎🇫🇷😎🇫🇷🖖🏻

  • @zettor47
    @zettor47 3 года назад +72

    An impact like that would likely leave ones imagination leaking out ones nose and ears 😱

  • @CallofDoobie585
    @CallofDoobie585 3 года назад +301

    Scott if you're in the comments dude...get well soon. We all hope you get better

  • @ctsnider88
    @ctsnider88 3 года назад +260

    Nice tribute to Scott. His new motto is just put your thumb in it! Maybe you or a viewer can make a thumb round and see how it flies. 😁

    • @irvan36mm
      @irvan36mm 3 года назад +7

      👍

    • @afberglund2764
      @afberglund2764 3 года назад +12

      You know, people are weird enough to send Scott a real thumb 😬

    • @lolk4530
      @lolk4530 3 года назад +6

      @@afberglund2764 I'd laugh my ass off if someone sent me a thumb, then call the police and make sure it was a legally acquired one.

    • @poncholefty471
      @poncholefty471 3 года назад +7

      Balearic slingers used lead projectiles made by stinging their thumb in wet sand and filling the hole it created with molten lead. Killing people with a lead thumb has a long and rich history.

    • @wizard_of_poz4413
      @wizard_of_poz4413 3 года назад +2

      That sounds so goddamn cursed

  • @FUBARguy107
    @FUBARguy107 3 года назад +37

    That second helmet; even at less than 1000fps that hit was brutal. If you survive it you are likely going to be eating blender meals and drooling on yourself.

    • @Al-sg7kr
      @Al-sg7kr 3 года назад +4

      @@Deere2154D republican too

    • @mred8002
      @mred8002 3 года назад +6

      This was discussed at length after previous helmet tests. No penetration is to be preferred, but it is common for some to think that such an impact is somehow ‘survivable’. It is not. Heads behave as a liquid at such impacts, and brains become homogeneous. Think raspberry jelly.

    • @brucewrigleysgumchewz4667
      @brucewrigleysgumchewz4667 3 года назад

      Deere... Sounds more like Dumbo Donnie. Sllluuurrpp slllluurrrpp .. drinking like a toddler out of a sippy cup. 😄

    • @Zaque-TV
      @Zaque-TV 3 года назад +2

      @@Al-sg7kr yeah any worshipper of a tribalistic propaganda mill that disguises itself as a two party system lmao

    • @bullseyebaby56
      @bullseyebaby56 2 года назад +1

      And be only slightly harder to understand than the pudding head in the Whitehouse.

  • @dalongshot9940
    @dalongshot9940 3 года назад +170

    I see Danny sporting the Kentucky Ballistics shirt for support.

    • @timesthree5757
      @timesthree5757 3 года назад +1

      Were da.... na just get well Scot.

  • @bendover5546
    @bendover5546 3 года назад +13

    Love how that lead plate have grown over time. Feel like a proud uncle.

  • @strife3084
    @strife3084 3 года назад +12

    Reminds me of my father so freaking much! God rest his soul. From his demeanor, the blood on his pants to the scars up his arms. My father was a heavy line mechanic my whole life. Grew up spending the summers in the shop doing the light stuff. I miss that man alot. I'm just proud to be able to pass down the life lessons he taught me, to his grandkids.

    • @TRIKERED
      @TRIKERED 3 года назад +2

      👍🏻😊. 🇺🇸😎

    • @seldonwright4345
      @seldonwright4345 3 года назад

      Mine was a life long gun nut ,avid deer hunter. Miss him a lot.

  • @andie_pants
    @andie_pants 3 года назад +34

    Sir Daniel of Deadeye absolutely _nailing_ it on the first shot!

    • @GrowlieDave
      @GrowlieDave 3 года назад +3

      I was going to that Danny should call "Its hiiiigh noon" before he shoots but, dang it, look at them shadows......

  • @UncleWermus
    @UncleWermus 3 года назад +9

    TAOFLEDERMAUS: Scott from Kentucky Ballistics got blowed up by some sketchy old rounds
    Also TAOFLEDERMAUS: Time to shoot some sketchy old rounds!
    Love you, Guntube. Get well soon Scott.

    • @skepticalbadger
      @skepticalbadger 3 года назад +2

      Bit of a difference in pressure.

    • @UncleWermus
      @UncleWermus 3 года назад

      @@skepticalbadger Just a smidge.

  • @TigburtJones
    @TigburtJones 3 года назад +55

    I like the support for Kentucky Ballistics too :D

  • @michellewilt4479
    @michellewilt4479 2 года назад +14

    I know I'm late to the party, but I'd love to see you reload these with new powder and see what kind of velocities you can drive them up to and if they will perform as advertised.

  • @stevenpeven258
    @stevenpeven258 3 года назад +35

    It’s good to see that these slugs were lucky enough to still be in reasonable condition, and more importantly were safe to shoot, despite their age

    • @5roundsrapid263
      @5roundsrapid263 3 года назад +5

      Ammo can last a century or more if kept dry and cool. I’ve shot ammo from the 1950’s with no problems. Obviously, I inspected it first.

    • @theshapeexists
      @theshapeexists 3 года назад +1

      Most old factory fresh ammo is fine if stored properly and not tampered with. Ive got some 1940s 762x39 ive been shooting for years, and its runs perfect. Ive got some 762x54r thats almost 100 years old, and it also runs like new

    • @oldschooldude8370
      @oldschooldude8370 3 года назад +4

      Heat kills powder life. Never know what you're getting. Depending on the powder, if temperature is kept under 85 or so it will outlive you by a long time. If under 75 it gets really dumb in lifetime.

    • @UnfoundODST
      @UnfoundODST 3 года назад

      Unlike them slap rounds

    • @rifleshooterchannel208
      @rifleshooterchannel208 Год назад

      @@theshapeexists You do *not* have any 1940s production 7.62x39.
      Let alone enough to have lasted for “years” of shooting.

  • @Enes-wj5xq
    @Enes-wj5xq 3 года назад +60

    After what happned to Scott, we hope non of Taufledermaus shooters get into like that terrifying accident. Be safe Taufledermaus.

  • @briantaylor3204
    @briantaylor3204 3 года назад +30

    I like the lesson learned from KB and the addition of the vest over the breach. Kudos to you Taofledermaus!

  • @itwasaladream
    @itwasaladream 3 года назад +11

    Glad to see you guys supporting TVP! That's my nephew!

  • @donaldslayton2769
    @donaldslayton2769 3 года назад +49

    After Scott's accident, your safety precautions are a good idea

    • @percyfaith11
      @percyfaith11 3 года назад +1

      Hook and string plus ballistic shield would be my addition.

    • @QuesoDePalo
      @QuesoDePalo 3 года назад

      my thinkin's exacc

    • @GrowlieDave
      @GrowlieDave 3 года назад

      Was this the dude whos 50 cal. blew up on him? Saw hes breathing, but did he get out on one piece?

    • @Skulgar321
      @Skulgar321 3 года назад +7

      @@GrowlieDave He has a full video on it. Basically, he's lucky to be alive at all, but is recovering well. The part that nearly did him in was his jugular, it's been repaired, doctors did good work on the rest of him too.

    • @chrismawson4430
      @chrismawson4430 3 года назад +6

      @@GrowlieDave Yea he barely survived, but afaik everything is still attached and he should make a full recovery.

  • @jerryhayden8720
    @jerryhayden8720 2 года назад

    I had to watch this again. I always enjoy these videos but I like seeing Danny again. His absence leaves a hole in the show that will always be. He was a good man that will be missed and remembered. RIP Danny.

  • @SquireJethro
    @SquireJethro 3 года назад +22

    Malloy and Reed! My Friday night TV watching as a kid.

    • @taofledermaus
      @taofledermaus  3 года назад +14

      Such a good show. They still play it on MeTV.

    • @stefanmolnapor910
      @stefanmolnapor910 3 года назад +1

      @@taofledermaus watching Metv right now! Lol 🇺🇸

  • @jasonwilde197
    @jasonwilde197 3 года назад +32

    You are really cautious to mention the age of the ammo and the effect on the powder because of Kentucky Ballistics.

    • @loganbryce3804
      @loganbryce3804 3 года назад +3

      Peculiar how he takes extra precautions this time around, especially since he's tested countless unknown/old rounds in the past, all with nothing more than eye protection.

    • @MFnDahk
      @MFnDahk 3 года назад +1

      His take on KB's incident was dumb as hell..

    • @wizard_of_poz4413
      @wizard_of_poz4413 3 года назад

      @@MFnDahk but money

  • @Dank-gb6jn
    @Dank-gb6jn 3 года назад +11

    If you come across anymore of these, definitely reload them with factory fresh powder to pump up the velocity.

  • @tonylaurenzi8011
    @tonylaurenzi8011 3 года назад +3

    I love the little smoke in the face as it is rotating them back-and-forth

  • @joshuagibson2520
    @joshuagibson2520 3 года назад +10

    I can tell OG wasn't there today by the drawing on the plate. I'm starting to recognize his art when I see it. Very good video. If that retro still pic doesn't take you back to that time, nothing will. As well as ads and articles from Field and Stream as you mentioned. Even the fonts used show the time period. Art as well. I'm getting old. Lol

    • @markcantemail8018
      @markcantemail8018 3 года назад +2

      Joshua I Received Shot Gun News in the late 70s and Early 80s and I remember the adds .

    • @joshuagibson2520
      @joshuagibson2520 3 года назад +1

      @@markcantemail8018 hell yeah brother. I haven't seen a print copy since the 90s I think.

  • @jeremyshackelford8080
    @jeremyshackelford8080 3 года назад +6

    My neighbors Cub Cadet keeps giving me the stink eye. I'll show it! Interesting video and history lesson. I always enjoy those. Again, good to see support for KY Ballistics. This channel has really changed my opinion of California for the better

  • @CrinosAD
    @CrinosAD 3 года назад +2

    I love how the timing on this video is just right, with ref to Danny's T-shirt!
    Nice explaining of what you did beforehand with the ammo, to get a better understanding of what you where dealing with. And also pointing out several times that the powder could decrease or increase in potency while sitting on the shelf for 40 years.

  • @kimgriffith1054
    @kimgriffith1054 3 года назад +2

    I was issued those rounds, They were stronger than what you were using today. I guess time catches all of us and our toys. Thankyou, retired LEO, SWAT, Range Master

    • @taofledermaus
      @taofledermaus  3 года назад

      Yep! Glad to hear someone actually had some experience with these

  • @randlerichardson5826
    @randlerichardson5826 3 года назад +17

    Great video guys and yes we’re praying for Scott at Ky Ballistics GOD BLESS y’all Amen 🙏

  • @richardmoore6295
    @richardmoore6295 3 года назад +8

    when i saw the kevlar go around the receiver i knew you were thinking about Scott's mishap.

    • @taofledermaus
      @taofledermaus  3 года назад +3

      We've done it before with iffy rounds.

  • @bobjordan8283
    @bobjordan8283 3 года назад +7

    Thumbs up for supporting Scott at KB!!

  • @hernandovillamarinbuenaven7476
    @hernandovillamarinbuenaven7476 3 года назад +2

    We all pray for Scottt's quick & full recovery. Thanks God his Dad / (his Guardian Angel) could help with strong & decisive actions to save his life & keep Family together.
    God Bless our community!!..
    Great video as usual!😊

  • @kriptid4506
    @kriptid4506 3 года назад +21

    Rocking the Kentucky Ballistics shirt lol

    • @FUBARguy107
      @FUBARguy107 3 года назад +2

      I bought one. Three of my friends did too.

    • @kriptid4506
      @kriptid4506 3 года назад

      @@FUBARguy107 Nice
      Scott's a good man

    • @Andrew-on5do
      @Andrew-on5do 3 года назад +1

      I’m gonna butter your biscuit!

  • @Steel_Wrath
    @Steel_Wrath 3 года назад +146

    law of war: You can't use anti material weaponry against enemy personnel. Infantrymen: I was aiming at his rifle.

    • @definitelynotjasonmomoa
      @definitelynotjasonmomoa 3 года назад +3

      I mean, a death is a death, right? Lol

    • @peterzingler6221
      @peterzingler6221 3 года назад +18

      Laughs in 50cal sniper use.

    • @franklinfleming1237
      @franklinfleming1237 3 года назад +11

      Cant use bearmace either... but cops are not soilders and protesters and criminals are not enemy combatants.

    • @StormBringare
      @StormBringare 3 года назад +11

      Yes you can. What you can't use is ammunition designed to fragment inside the body or in other ways cause unneccessary suffering.

    • @patrickw9520
      @patrickw9520 3 года назад +6

      @@franklinfleming1237 but you can use such chemical deterrents to prevent the locals in the nation you invaded, from protesting at the gates, etc..... but god forbid you tear gas enemy combatants.

  • @braxtonnelson7422
    @braxtonnelson7422 3 года назад +2

    "If somebody is attacking you with their lawnmower"... something I've never heard said before! More words of wisdom from Danny... Keeping Scott at Kentucky Ballistics in our thoughts and prayers...

  • @pikricky
    @pikricky 2 года назад +2

    Watching this video after I watched Danny's last video,brought a tear to my eye,RIP Danny you will be sadly missed

  • @LClaypool
    @LClaypool 3 года назад +6

    Glad to see we are back to the normal business of testing cool old ass ammo after that last video....nice touch with KB tshirt and kevlar chamber cover. We are all learning....We are all brothers of the same shooting community :)

  • @SurvivalRussia
    @SurvivalRussia 3 года назад +205

    I know this is going to be good :)

    • @taofledermaus
      @taofledermaus  3 года назад +18

      Tanks, Lars (dang it, it isn't a tank!) lol

    • @pantherplatform
      @pantherplatform 3 года назад +8

      I thought winter in the "up" was bad but it's winter 11 months straight over there. Garage 54 is always driving around in what looks like January.

    • @OGPurePhoenix
      @OGPurePhoenix 3 года назад +4

      @@taofledermaus make a comparison with the modern bri sabot? 😄

    • @deucedeuce1572
      @deucedeuce1572 3 года назад +3

      @@OGPurePhoenix I'd like to see reloads of these with new powder too. (edit, may be a faster burning powder, as the sabot it lighter and may require faster powder to reach velocity before leaving the bore.)

    • @OGPurePhoenix
      @OGPurePhoenix 3 года назад +3

      @@deucedeuce1572 I was going to say the same, but without knowing the exact constitution and construction of the projectile, it's incredibly difficult to replicate more slugs in a way that's period accurate to the 1970s

  • @guyg5702
    @guyg5702 4 месяца назад

    I had one of these blue S&W slugs in the 70s that my grandfather somehow got ahold of. I remember cutting it up to see what was going on. Pretty cool to see all that again.

  • @heywardmorgan4741
    @heywardmorgan4741 3 года назад +1

    Prayers for Scott on a speedy recovery and prayers for you guys in your every day, stay safe and keep having fun out there

  • @EinhanderSn0m4n
    @EinhanderSn0m4n 3 года назад +30

    Yall please pray for Kentucky Ballistics, and consider talking to Ballistic Machinist about turning this slug design in brass.

    • @sunshadow7XK
      @sunshadow7XK 3 года назад +1

      More like turn it into a lead mold so that we can all screw with it

    • @EinhanderSn0m4n
      @EinhanderSn0m4n 3 года назад

      @@sunshadow7XK Also yes.

    • @carsonhunt4642
      @carsonhunt4642 3 года назад +1

      They said at the start the company has a patent for the design, so no point for ballistic machinist to spend time making them as can’t sell them

    • @sunshadow7XK
      @sunshadow7XK 3 года назад

      @@carsonhunt4642 If TFM can at least post dimensions I can make one for my own purposes.

  • @jordansmith4040
    @jordansmith4040 3 года назад +4

    Danny never fails to impress with his shooting skills.

    • @1014p
      @1014p 2 года назад

      He is bench shooting. Single shot at a time at that. After initial shot where to hold for a shot is much easier. With these slugs the initial shot is needed to get a ball park of how it wants to fly. Generally they put up a target 10 or so yards away. Notice this one shot high. So hold low slightly for probably up to 30 yards.

  • @Spicoli1Bilek
    @Spicoli1Bilek 2 года назад +1

    Will always be missed but never forgotten Danny we love you

  • @FLIGHT762
    @FLIGHT762 3 года назад

    I have about 10 boxes of these Police S&W sabot slugs. They were purchased in the 1970's. I saved them all these years for armageddon. When I saw this video it reminded me. It was just a few weeks ago, I found the container where I stored these and pulled them out to look at them.

  • @CamRStanford
    @CamRStanford 3 года назад +11

    Damn, that KY Ballistics incident really got everyone walking on eggshells, huh
    lol

    • @messagedeleted1922
      @messagedeleted1922 3 года назад +2

      With untested ancient shells yeah definitely.

    • @CamRStanford
      @CamRStanford 3 года назад

      @@messagedeleted1922 he could have unloaded and reloaded them.
      But I was referring to them laying the vest over the gun, that’s the first I’ve seen them do that-I just thought it was kind of funny
      Now everyone’s like “oh fuck, that eye pro is probably a good idea... and a level iv vest... and...” with the KY incident fresh in mind

    • @DESTRUCT0NAT0R
      @DESTRUCT0NAT0R 3 года назад +2

      It's been a long time but I've seen TFM wrap the shotguns in kevlar before on old rounds.

    • @taofledermaus
      @taofledermaus  3 года назад +3

      We've done that a couple times. I think some of the Heavy Hitter test loads and the Brenneke slugs.

  • @robburdack4361
    @robburdack4361 3 года назад +5

    good to see danny looking healthy again !

  • @RadSad-hd2op
    @RadSad-hd2op 3 года назад +1

    this man reallly just made a video grilling kentucky ballistics and is now out here shooting half a century old slugs

  • @martyredge
    @martyredge Год назад

    you want ammo you'll never see anywhere else, facts and research about the history what's going to be shot? this is the best channel ever

  • @frenchroast1355
    @frenchroast1355 3 года назад +7

    Kudos for Danny and his KB shirt. WTG!

  • @thefirststopher
    @thefirststopher 3 года назад +8

    As a young man I saw the movie Alien Nation and from it found out about BRI sabot rounds.

    • @undercoverasiant696
      @undercoverasiant696 3 года назад +4

      I though using that drum mag on the shotgun was cool. Good movie

    • @vinnieboombatzmd3508
      @vinnieboombatzmd3508 3 года назад +1

      I was thinking the same but couldn't remember the name of the movie. Was it James Caan hiding behind a car with the slugs going all the way through?

    • @thefirststopher
      @thefirststopher 3 года назад

      @@vinnieboombatzmd3508 Yes.

  • @creamiegoodness
    @creamiegoodness 3 года назад +2

    Always glad to see Danny!

  • @FortuneCookie45LC
    @FortuneCookie45LC 3 года назад +1

    Hello to Jeff and Danny - Hope you saved one of those slugs and that box for historical purposes - but if not, the video will suffice for that. There was a lot of S & W ammo back then, but apparently, they didn't find it profitable enough to continue... nice video as always. Get well soon, Scott..!! Steve

  • @paulstan9828
    @paulstan9828 3 года назад +11

    In hindsight it would of been interesting to reload one with new powder to see the difference.

    • @michiganengineer8621
      @michiganengineer8621 3 года назад +2

      Beat me to it, I was going to make the same comment. I suppose they could at least chrono one of the newer Winchester BRI slugs to see the speed difference.

    • @paulstan9828
      @paulstan9828 3 года назад

      @@michiganengineer8621 That’s a good idea.

    • @inthefade
      @inthefade 2 года назад +1

      Would *have* been.

  • @definitelynotjasonmomoa
    @definitelynotjasonmomoa 3 года назад +3

    HEY DANNY! Good to see ya

  • @JDude-uj3lk
    @JDude-uj3lk 3 года назад +1

    Had the pleasure of trying a couple of boxes of these around 1981. Was shooting targets accurately after passing through a concrete block wall. Targets were ~10 feet behind the wall and the wall was ~15 yards away.

    • @taofledermaus
      @taofledermaus  3 года назад +1

      Probably were a bit fresher then!

    • @JDude-uj3lk
      @JDude-uj3lk 3 года назад

      @@taofledermaus I was too!

  • @sickjawa
    @sickjawa 3 года назад +2

    Danny in the video, I keep watchin’, love you dude.

  • @djnatedjn8787
    @djnatedjn8787 3 года назад +3

    Awesome video today Jeff👌🏽! It's Great to see Danny again too🎯🤠! Hope you are all healthy and doing well, Keep up the Awesome, and of course, ** Educational Work!! 🔭🔬👨‍🔬😉💯🙏🏽👍🏽

  • @apathtrampledbydeer8446
    @apathtrampledbydeer8446 3 года назад +4

    I kind of expected Danny to yell: It's comin' right for us before shooting that engine.

  • @joshuagibson2520
    @joshuagibson2520 3 года назад

    At distance it does lose velocity but can still penetrate more in soft tissue than up close. Buffalo's latest video was awesome. Learned something very valuable.

  • @Smallathe
    @Smallathe 3 года назад +1

    Very cool "slow" vintage slug.
    Lovely design - I loved the wasp like shape.
    The sabot was also nicely made with a very good support.
    Really awesome shooting with the Kevlar on top and all Danny - and superb slow motion captures from Jeff to spice things up. :)

  • @trvsfrnd
    @trvsfrnd 3 года назад +9

    Most modern powders (US produced, post-cold war) are designed to degrade safely, meaning the round will lose pressure over time. Some ammo, like old WW2 corrosive stuff, can degrade and increase pressure, so they become unsafe if not kept properly and will blow up your gun.
    Been watching periodically for years, glad you're still going man!

    • @GunFunZS
      @GunFunZS 3 года назад +4

      That claim has been widely debated.
      I've never seen anybody come up with conclusive documentation one way or another about whether this is true.
      In general most powders seem to be pretty stable as long as you keep him in a controlled temperature environment.

    • @GunFunZS
      @GunFunZS 3 года назад

      @@Krobear I did read it. I was disputing the part about designed to degrade. People have been saying that about powders and primers forever kind of like 556 is designed to wound. Whether powders do degrade is a different issue but I've never seen any documentation that can support the claim that they are designed to do so. I would be interested in seeing that sort of documentation, if it does exist. I just don't think it works to state it as a fact without some sort of evidence somewhere. And I would be happy for somebody to find that evidence.

    • @confederate2506
      @confederate2506 3 года назад

      I've got a crate of barely post WW2 (1947) soviet surplus. The stuff shoots better than any modern ammo I've put in it!!!

    • @trvsfrnd
      @trvsfrnd 3 года назад

      @@confederate2506 I might have the timeframe/areas slightly wrong but an example of this is Turkish 8mm mauser that was produced with German support, also czech copies of 7.9mm Kurz, however the powder is composed, it became over-pressure with time, aka they didn't degrade safely. If you're worried about it you can always google and find out if people have had experiences with rounds getting hotter. A lot of surplus stuff has sat in boxes for decades, maybe moved occasionally, exposed to heat, and around the time they were using a bunch of new expedient chemicals to produce gunpowder. Forgotten Weapons did a vid about this.

    • @trvsfrnd
      @trvsfrnd 3 года назад

      ​@@GunFunZS These are verified facts, about certain ammo types. Turkish produced 8mm mauser made 70-80 yrs ago has blown up many machine guns in the past decade because it didn't degrade safely. Degrade on a chemical level, you want powder that's designed to become low-pressure over time. All smokeless nitro powder made in the past decades are all chemically composed to decompose in a safe manner. This isn't some "gun myth" telling you not to store your 5.56.

  • @bullseyebaby56
    @bullseyebaby56 2 года назад +1

    I think that's pretty cool how it at least seems like all the shooter channels while in competition for viewers still support (don't hate on) the other guys.
    Very cool. And, while you don't fill the shirt out quite like Scott does, that Kentucky ballistics shirt looks good on you.

  • @michaelherrell5381
    @michaelherrell5381 3 года назад

    Great review and history. I wish you could do more videos. Yours are so professional, interesting and unique. Keep up the good work.

  • @ftswarbill
    @ftswarbill 3 года назад +3

    My Day always seems better with a new Danny video. No offense Jeff. :D

  • @mecanicageneral615
    @mecanicageneral615 3 года назад +4

    After what happened to Scott now it's a little scary shooting very old ammo, very nice move to cover the main components of the shotgun

  • @HarmsWay500
    @HarmsWay500 3 года назад

    Amen. Praying for Scott as well. He’s faking well pretty good now! Heal quickly brother!
    PS Good job fellas. Always a pleasure.

  • @MrLobstermeat
    @MrLobstermeat 3 года назад +1

    Great video !! Really interesting to see how those old slugs work.

  • @NC-oy8hq
    @NC-oy8hq 3 года назад +9

    Need to load some with fresh powder , 12-1300 FPS

  • @SirDeeznuts
    @SirDeeznuts 3 года назад +9

    like that idea with blanket over the breach when shooting unknown/old ammo ;)

    • @taofledermaus
      @taofledermaus  3 года назад +3

      We have done that before with the Heavy Hitters I think. I wasn't too confident in the guy's test loads.

  • @MrDavidelliottjr
    @MrDavidelliottjr 3 года назад +1

    When I seen the vest over the dsnger bits I knew it was because of Scots incident. Love this channel.

  • @chrislaxson9988
    @chrislaxson9988 3 года назад +2

    Get better Scott. We love you.. And are praying brother

  • @texasranger24
    @texasranger24 3 года назад +5

    For comparison a few of those new Winchesters or some 3" shells with new powder at safe max pressure for 1oz slugs to get 1700ft/sec would've been interesting.

  • @bluegizmo1983
    @bluegizmo1983 3 года назад +7

    I don't care who ya are... If you get hit in the helmet with a 12ga slug, you's a gotta be having a bad day! 😂

  • @lol4fun
    @lol4fun 3 года назад

    For the first time ever i had a mid video advert, well done for not getting this demonetised

  • @felixcat9318
    @felixcat9318 3 года назад

    Given the magnitude of deformation visible on those ballistic helmets, I have no doubt whatsoever that the wearers would have suffered multiple catastrophic skull fractures and crushing entry wounds resulting in immediate loss of life!
    Even at much degraded velocity these rounds impart a huge amount of energy into the target, door locks and hinges would fail under fire from fresh rounds fired from close range.
    Thank you for this interesting, informative and entertaining video, I imagine that the antique engine nerds were gnashing their remaining teeth and pulling out the last wisps of their long gone hair at the sight of that old engine meeting the 12 gauge projectile...

  • @alloutofbubblegum154
    @alloutofbubblegum154 3 года назад +3

    I just went on an hour Taofledermaus binge...now this? NICE!!!

    • @irishbob26
      @irishbob26 3 года назад +1

      My favourite thing to do. 👍

  • @randlerichardson5826
    @randlerichardson5826 3 года назад +3

    Yeah it’s dangerous shooting old rounds look at KY Ballistics video where his 50 BMG BLEW UP. He was shooting old slap rounds and the 3rd one blew the gun up big time GOD BLESS y’all Amen 🙏

    • @michiganengineer8621
      @michiganengineer8621 3 года назад

      From what I've been hearing that may have been a "counterfeit" round that was reloaded and hot. One of the other channels mentioned an issue with polymer sabots and muzzle-brakes as well.

    • @michiganengineer8621
      @michiganengineer8621 3 года назад

      @@Krobear Very true. I think we will all have to wait until Mark Serbu gets finished with his diagnostics. From what he (Serbu) said on his own channel it _sounds_ like Scott had a few more rounds from that batch. Hopefully those were sent to Serbu along with the carcass of the RN-50

  • @Hixie101
    @Hixie101 3 года назад

    I like how you went into details of the round, dissected the load and showed the safety you took. Remember the difference between science and messing around is documentation.

  • @docskate4312
    @docskate4312 3 года назад +1

    The impact on the mild steel looked amazing.

  • @francoisbernier68
    @francoisbernier68 3 года назад +5

    He doesn’t need to aim, he’s got a sixth sense..or maybe ecolocation.. 🤣😂

  • @Ryzler13
    @Ryzler13 3 года назад +6

    His buddy better have a can opener to remove that guys helmet. The last thing that guy saw was the back of his skull fly out from the front of his face.

    • @Ender3Me
      @Ender3Me 3 года назад +2

      Zero body armor can stop these. I'm in the process of 3d printing some of these to be cast in lead and loaded. Will be good for my shtf anti personnel arsenal.

  • @chrislaxson9988
    @chrislaxson9988 3 года назад

    Love this channel! I've been a fan for at least a year. Keep it going.

  • @SuperLaplander
    @SuperLaplander 3 года назад +1

    Good one. My favorite Danny at the trigger. Be safe and keep producing good stuff! Thanks TFL crew.

  • @Okun240
    @Okun240 3 года назад +5

    2:21 imagine OG being on the cast of Adam 12 😎

  • @jpdesimone
    @jpdesimone 3 года назад +4

    Kentucky Ballistics watching this video at 4:50 mark: "Ahh, yeah, that's a good idea right there."

    • @1014p
      @1014p 2 года назад

      Wrapping his 50 cal would not have stopped the cap. Threads can only be torqued so many times. Thats why it failed so hard. It if it was a bolt instead. The bolt would have blown out the side or barrel burst open. Price wise that gun was an inferior design and option for price range. Literally 200 dollars more gets you a bolt gun in ar type set up from SHTF 50 or even Serbu Bolt action 50, although pre pandemic prices. Things went up a little from then.

    • @jpdesimone
      @jpdesimone 2 года назад

      @@1014p Yeah, man, that was just a joke.

  • @joshuamiller75
    @joshuamiller75 3 года назад +1

    Just based on the sheer force evident in this video at around 11 minutes. You'd be knocking on heaven's door or dead.

  • @casualobserver3145
    @casualobserver3145 2 года назад

    Good to see & hear Danny in this one. RIP, pard.

  • @CesarVzqz115
    @CesarVzqz115 3 года назад +3

    Hola! Greetings from mexico Taofledermaus Crew!

  • @peterzingler6221
    @peterzingler6221 3 года назад +4

    Back then make it bigger and heavier was the way of choice

  • @bumpercoach
    @bumpercoach 3 года назад +1

    good to see
    what all gun channels should do
    in pre-marking where theyre aiming
    especially for multiple shots on
    the same target so its easier
    to distinguish the different hits

  • @williamhowland1171
    @williamhowland1171 3 года назад +2

    Nice shirt Danny! Prayers for Scott ❤️🙏

  • @joshuataft5541
    @joshuataft5541 3 года назад +4

    Oooh I see extra precautions with unknown ammo scince "the detonation "lol...not a bad thing I supose

  • @disturbedmaynard3873
    @disturbedmaynard3873 3 года назад +3

    I am sure on the next video with OG, he will have the Stick your thumb in it shirt from Kentucky Ballistics

  • @bluemtoo
    @bluemtoo 3 года назад +1

    Now they are even more rare 🙂 Thanks for sharing!

  • @mybuickskill6979
    @mybuickskill6979 3 года назад +1

    I was just talking to a fellow at work about Scott. I hope he recovers soon. I miss seeing new big bore fun. 🤗

  • @draigygoch
    @draigygoch 3 года назад +8

    Did you only add this 'explosive blanket' after watching Kentucky Ballistics accident? you were very critical of his video

    • @jimcappa6815
      @jimcappa6815 3 года назад +5

      They've used it in the past when shooting with unknown or old ammo.

    • @LextechLighting
      @LextechLighting 3 года назад +1

      He wasn’t critical at all. He was right. It’s called foresight

    • @taofledermaus
      @taofledermaus  3 года назад +1

      We used a few times with some test loads a company sent us. The Heavy Hitters is one of them.

    • @draigygoch
      @draigygoch 3 года назад

      @@LextechLighting Critical doesn't mean negative Lex,

  • @jeremyclayton3944
    @jeremyclayton3944 3 года назад +9

    Be careful. Look what happened over at Kentucky ballistics.❤️

    • @draigygoch
      @draigygoch 3 года назад +4

      That's why I think he added the Kevlar blanket

    • @jeremyclayton3944
      @jeremyclayton3944 3 года назад +1

      @@draigygoch i didnt finish watching it. But i say that because of the title. And its old ammo. I just care thats all.

    • @bmstylee
      @bmstylee 3 года назад

      @@jeremyclayton3944 scott had a bunch of things align i a bad way. The least is shooting a slap through a muzzle brake which is a no go

    • @bmstylee
      @bmstylee 3 года назад

      @@Krobear learn a bit about the slap. Military manuals say it should not be used with a muzzle brake. It was designed for the m2 which doesn't have a brake. It doesn't take much to cause an overpressure situation. So how about you get educated. Check out Tiborasaurus Rex who eloquently explains it. Or be an bottom 2% uneducated and ignorant fool which it seems you are.

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 3 года назад +2

      @@Krobear you aren't supposed to shoot SLAP rounds through a muzzle brake, the sabots like to peel off in the brake and cause a baffle strike.
      But that's not what happened to KB. If he'd had a baffle strike, the damage would have been out at the muzzle end. Instead, he had the threads shear off of the breech cap, a thing that would take at least 85kpsi. That's over 150% of the max pressure for BMG ammo. Proof rounds are 65-68k, depending on which testing spec you use.

  • @dandel351
    @dandel351 3 года назад

    Good to see Danny out and doing well these days. Oh and the shells were interesting to watch.

  • @collinpugh9219
    @collinpugh9219 3 года назад +1

    thank you guys for redeeming yourselves after that last video. i almost didnt want to watch anymore of your videos and almost unsubbed after seeing that video... Scott is a Great man. Mark is a great man. It was an absolutely terrible incident. seeing the support for scott is awesome to see. im glad i didnt unsub. i stuck around to see if you would show the support he needs and you came through. Keep it up guys! Scott needs all the support he can get!

    • @collinpugh9219
      @collinpugh9219 3 года назад

      @@Krobear this is literally the first one I've watched since then and the first thing I did was check the comments to see if there was any support for Scott and the comments restored my faith in them.

    • @collinpugh9219
      @collinpugh9219 3 года назад

      @taofledermaus you guys keep it up. you guys are great!! I'm so happy you guys caught up to it!!!

  • @14goldmedals
    @14goldmedals 3 года назад +3

    You have to redo today with fresh Winchester BRI shells. Then we’ll see some velocity.

    • @Horseshoecrabwarrior
      @Horseshoecrabwarrior 3 года назад

      I think they might have shot BRI shells before. Not certain though.

    • @taofledermaus
      @taofledermaus  3 года назад

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