Genesis G70 3 3t vs BMW M340i vs Cadillac CT5 V, the best sedan king drag and roll race battle.
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- Опубликовано: 25 янв 2023
- Genesis G70 3 3t vs BMW M340i vs Cadillac CT5 V, the best sedan king drag and roll race battle.
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Would love to see the cts-v with a tune and what kind of a difference that would make
Btw Sam I believe someone is using your name for your channel on Telegram just giving you a heads up they tried reaching out to me and asking me for my name and what city I live in.
@@gabrielomalley6266 definitely not me. But thank you.
Sam, can you please do the ford explorer ST (V6 twin turbo ) next please
The B58 is a monster
Well yeah it is until a car of the same generation like the C43 w206 model comes out…
@@marsallen4298 You'll see that the ass whoopings will continue regardless of what comes out!😂
Their power figures are underrated and we all know that so no point in cheering them on. It’s like handicapping the competitors. 🙄
BMW isn’t doing anything special but I bet their sells are way up lol look at how well their marketing is working. They got people in comment sections all over the internet selling their cars for them all because they lied about the numbers and got fanboys feeling like hero’s 😂 I need to invest in bmw so I can collect some residual fanboy checks in the mail🤔🤔🤔
Too bad they never adjusted the camera angle to show it.
Love my G70, it's totally different, interior/exterior🔥 and still pretty rare, though sales have been popping. No doubt, M340i is it's own beast of a car. King of Sports Sedans without any hesitation.
different because it's so damn ugly, that grill/front end bro🤣
@j rex what do u drive big boii 👀 prob never seen one either rippppp videos* never do justice on any car
@@jrex3575 not as ugly as you 🖕. The number of losers on this channel grow all the time.
Love my 2022 loaded SP G70! went with it over the m340 due to overall cost-initial 15k more than G70-higher cost of ownership-but definitely a great car. But the G70 is much more rare, and I like that. Also the ride and handling of the Genesis is superb and would surprise most people.
@@shinedownfly same here 💯 makes most sense, looks amazing, has the power and interior is insane for what you get.
I recently purchased a 2020 m340i xdrive and it's literally a rocketship, but also an incredibly practical car. Drives great in the snow too!
The newer xdrive systems work so well in the snow and are a blast when you hoon it around. Was drifting my m240i in the snow earlier this morning here in Illinois.
A literal rocket ship??? 😁
Same with my M240i! Absolute monster even bone stock! I haven't lost yet, and raced many cars!👍🙂
Any car can be greag in the snow wit winter setup
Beautiful car!
Love my G70 3.3T. Mine has White Exterior and Red Interior and it looks gorgeous. M340i is a beast. I lost drag race against Supra and M340i :S I still love my G70. It's really a head turner, puts a smile on my face every time I drive it.
m340i also costs way more then your G70 3.3t, The Genesis smashes on value, also what trim is yours? Awesome color combo, thank you for not getting boring black. My buddy has the sandstone grey and green exterior it's like a bentley
@@roboticvenom1935 I got mine Tasman Blue with Black interior, red stitching for the trim, I went allll out
A 2023 genesis 3.3t at my local dealership is $57,235. A 2023 m340i is $57,400…..Genesis is a terrible terrible value. You’re paying all that money for a Hyundai…. Bad decision.
@@bustanutist that m340i is a complete BASE model or what? BMW offers jack shit standard equipment wise. Genesis probably has options. Search NATIONWIDE for Genesis's instead of relying on your local dealer for an anecdote, idk your exact area.
How's it a Hyundai? It's a RWD luxury platform that no Hyundai uses.. those are FWD sedans
@@roboticvenom1935 It’s not anecdotal if it’s what dealers are actually selling the car for instead of Msrp. You genesis people I swear lmaooo. It’s a Hyundai because genesis was Hyundai. The cars weren’t selling to well so Hyundai made genesis it’s own brand so people wouldn’t know it’s just a Hyundai. A few years ago it was Hyundai Genesis. The cheapest new one I see for the awd sedan is 51,300. That’s a lot for an imitation car. Save for an extra month and buy the real thing.
Finally! I was curious between the G70 and CT5V since their power numbers are close. I also test drove both of these cars and I was pleasantly surprised that G70 drove just as dynamic as the CT5V. I went with G70 because Cadillac didn’t want to come down from the $70k price tag! I got fully spec’d G70 3.3t RWD for $58k!
Damn u say they want 70gs for that Cadi and it's not even a Blackwing??? I'll stick with my Kia Stinger gt that I bought brand new for almost half the price. Paid 36k new in 2020.
M340 FTW
@Selfmadejay it won yes, cost a lot more then the G70, and the cost for parts when that thing has problems yea, I'll stick with a G70
@@willyswheelsg70modding99 ehh b58 far more reliable and has more tuner options , and there’s all types of cars that are more budget friendly that has the b58
@@selfmadejay01 by “budget friendly” you mean older I assume…name one sedan with the B58 that has the features the G70 offers at that lower price point. Personally I’d take the M340i cause the performance is worth it but it’s def going to cost more.
The M340i is in a class by itself 💨
BMW only competes with themselves.
240i, 340i, 440i 😂
The new bummers are no joke
They put down pretty close to what they advertise at the engine so yeah
Unreliable junk
The BMW M models (including M340i, M440i, etc) have "power assist" from the battery, to add power to the engine, like a power boost. A little battery power can do wonders on top of dual turbo engines. So yes, BMW cheated because they didn't openly disclose to the public. So yeah, it's not a fair comparison. Try adding some battery assist on the Genesis and see you would see unsatisfied (or disturbing) results for the BMW. At least the Mercedes doesn't cheat like this and optimized their V8 bi-turbo platform..
Impressed by the G70
Those 340i's are pushing 420HP+ at the crank and everybody knows it 😆
And it's impressive from a stock non M car. People look for any excuse to downplay Bmw's success as the best inline 6 manufacturer in the industry. There's a reason they've won so many engine of the year awards over and over again. Look it up.
@@rodgazinya Under promise and over deliver. German car makers understand this.
Don’t they fall apart though
Shouldn't the BMW be a 540i to compete against the Caddy? Also a G80, for that matter.
@@uofan1 different lower powered version of the B58 in 540i.
Such a fun time, looking forward to running it back with you Sam
Damn I love this channel. Great content as always.
BMW lies about their power in order to make sure that they always have the fastest car in each class that they compete in
I think their approach is "our cars produce this under the worst conditions" I appreciate it. What good are stats that are not obtainable...
damn you poor they just build better cars😂
Hahaha ///M POWER for life
So tell me.. whats bad about it?
Sure that helps on insurance as well. More car companies should adopt this method. Maybe you could say that's to the wheels instead of crank horse power.
I think the M340i will take it from a dig, followed by the G70, then the Caddy. The Caddy lost a previous race to the Stinger GT so that's what I am guessing will happen again against the G70.
From a dig, I bet you are right. Put them on a variety of road courses, and the Caddy will probably win every time, followed by the BMW, then the G70.
@Nathanael Cole highly doubt that.. what makes you think the Caddy would outperform a watered down M car on the track?
@@layne4376 I hadn't seen, will go check out. I didn't realize this was an AWD CT5V though and if we are talking AWD, I don't feel as confident in lap times. Give the proper RWD a go at it.
@@adriant9580 Because the CT5 V replaced the CTS V-Sport and is itself a watered down V. The V-Sport had 420 hp and 430 lb-ft torque, but GM stated that despite the loss in HP and the relative same weight, the CT5 V was faster in their circuit road course testing. The V-Sport was on an older version of the Alpha platform, the CT5 V (all CT5) are on the latest Alpha platform. The CT5 V has the magneride and ELSD which are huge for track times. Not sure on the brakes, but I know the CTS V-Sport had basically the biggest Brembos you could fit behind an 18" wheel up front. Cadillac puts an emphasis on tracking a car, more so than straight line speed. The CT5 V tops the regular M5 on most tracks too. it is kind of their thing.
@@nathanaelcole8466 okok good to know
As a owner of 2020 M340i... A feel good moment!
Hell, yeah, dude, thanks for giving the fum a shot out. I've been using it for the past couple months and never looked back. This thing has saved me from smoking And vaping .
B58 is too 💪. Respect to the Genesis though 🤝
Put a JB4 tune on the G70 and it will be par with the BMW.
@@manny9853 Now jb4 the bmw...game over
@Manny yea we did, he had me on a dig I had him on the rolls,
@@manny9853 I'm also not the best lunches yet lol, working on it
Now this is the content I’m subscribed for!!!🔥🔥🔥
Love owning an M340i, just such a beast and a great daily driver. It’s also somewhat of a sleeper because half the people on the road can’t tell the difference and think I’m a 330i. They realize pretty quickly 😂
That goes the same with the C300 Amg line and a c43 you cant really tell the difference unless you see the badges body styles are similar. C300 c43 isnt as huge of a difference as a 330i to M340i in performances though
Been there. Never get tired of jumping from Eco Pro to Sport+ when someone wants the the smoke lol
@@marsallen4298 c43 are pretty quick as well, I saw that guy with the c43 in front of me and I knew he was the c43 I used to work at the Mercedes dealership for almost 3 years so it's easy to identify them, there was also a badge on it. I decided to push him a little so I could race him. After he decided to give some but I have the 535d f10 tuned to almost 360hp and he couldn't lose me. After few km the road got into two lines and so he waited for me to see what BMW was able to keep up with him but he denied to race with me after lol
@@misterdragzon exactly lol. I don’t ask to race anyone but there’s always someone who wants the smoke whenever I drive the car
@@derekwhyle1884 I’m at least aware of trim levels within the scope of my current vehicle. This is my first BMW and I came to realize it’s kind of a club, where I get waves and salutes, from lower trims and full M trims above mine. I’m in my thirties and I don’t ask to race anyone. Those that try with me, they seem to not know the difference so it’s funny when they realize they got a lot more than they think they asked for 😂
Lol, my G70 is a sleeper. Looks stock, but it aint. Lap 3 1.5 tune, Secondary cat delete, And intakes makes it 465 to the wheels. If I run E85 and add another 10 to 15 horsepower to the wheels, And only weighs about 3500 pounds With rear wheel drive. Real fun to drive. This was a great race nonetheless. I figured the BMW would win this race hands down. BMW always underestimates their horsepower numbers they're always higher than what they say. The stock G70 in this race held its own, nice job.
You'd still get walked
The 3.3s can’t run full E85 with the stock hpfp. Most I’ve seen so far was E70.
Better buy a stinger. Cheaper and same engine
@@shabanajannik2600 ehh idk, ive seen lap3 g70s head to head with mhd downpipe 340s and even pull on them top end…
@hellzhonour....i only run 4 gallons of E85 at a time, Lap 3 guy told me no more.
Haha, I'll be damned, I asked for this race, and a few days later you delivered! You're the best!
I had an M340ix, traded that baby for the X3M Comp. With that said, the B58 is a monster of an engine. Launched my car so many times and it was so fun! One of the best cars I’ve ever owned. I miss it! The Dravit gray was my favorite color.
The B58 M340I is a absolute monster. This is the race that I’ve been looking for before I decided to buy one. Now I’m sold.🙌🏾🔥
Bmw is the way to go bro! I own a x3M40i and that 382hp isn’t so! That’s got to be to the wheels!
M340i wins, G70 2nd, CT5 V 3rd
but it could be close between the Caddy and the G70
Dang, that M340 is once again, proving to be such a rockstar. Good racing all around boys
boring car, boring interior.
@@awhs5435 fast as hell though 🤓
@@awhs5435 Relative to what?
@A WHS subjective. That opinion doesn't matter.
@@awhs5435 absolutely seething
Awesome video! More vids on a rwd ct4v non blackwing!
Predictable and props to the M340i. Would be interesting to have the G70 and M340i on the dyno and then tune the G70 to the exact same HP as the M340i and race again. The 3.3T is a great motor and with the stock boost, hardly doing any work. Current day tunes are really starting to show just how quick the G70 and Stinger can be..
The BMW M models (including M340i, M440i, etc) have "power assist" from the battery, to add power to the engine, like a power boost. A little battery power can do wonders on top of dual turbo engines. So yes, BMW cheated because they didn't openly disclose to the public. So yeah, it's not a fair comparison. Try adding some battery assist on the Genesis and see you would see unsatisfied (or disturbing) results for the BMW. At least the Mercedes doesn't cheat like this and optimized their V8 bi-turbo platform..
Don’t believe the other comment, it’s nonsense.
The race would be much closer, but the transmission and the tuning of the tcu and ecu is also better in the M340i.
In the end it’s mostly going to come down to what turbo(s) they decided to to pair with the engine. The Kia/Hyundai 3.3t has pretty good sized turbos that go well with the displacement of the engine. The B58 turbo compared with the N55 pwg turbo is a huge difference
@@PapiAndrey I am afraid that they used quite of battery power (beside voltage), more than they advertised, to move these BMW cars to go significantly faster, 2020 model or not, what they are disclosing aren't entirely true. They aren't telling everything that people need to know about. Without the addition of battery power it is physically impossible to move the car go that quick with its engine and transmission alone...
@@noobz5056 you don’t know what you’re talking about. I just explained to you that there is no different in performance between the m340i with the 48v and without it.
I just told you that the fastest m340i’s to ever come out of the factory were the 2020’s without the mild hybrid system. Get this nonsense about “physically impossible” out of here. A simple tune will make it much quicker than with any 48v system.
@@noobz5056 you sound salty. Bmw won. It’s over .
Completely agree with you Sam regarding the horsepower of M340
Please also show MSRP/Sticker price for each in the beginning and not just performance specs. Thanks
CT5 V = best balance of power and luxury
True.
Lol
@@Sergesedd22
BMW lies about hp.
To answer you're comment you
Posted. That's how they won.
They are quoting whp as crank
Great video, I figured that b58 was going to dominate. I thought it would’ve been neck to neck with the ct5 v and g70, it was pretty close but I just knew the 10speed would get it. Lol now I would love to see the Audi S7 vs bmw 840i gran coupe vs the Mercedes gt53 vs the Panamera 4s .
Huh? That 10 speed lost 4 of 5 and came in second 1 time I don't think it got much of anything
Bought my 23 M340I and i gotta say. Its too fast for my own good. You dont need that much power in the highway
Test drive a 340i it’s shocking quick I was pushed back into my seat and the gear change is so effortless it’s amazing
I got the 2023 g70 thing is so fun in sports plus mode love it. Such a fun car. I think this years grill looks amazing. Interior is amazing. And we’re im from I feel like I’m the only one driving it!!
Great race. As always, the B58 takes it.
Love my g70 there sleepers but B58s are beast can’t wait get behind wheel on one of those 😋
For $800 more in the G70 with the JB4, it will walk any M340i.
Kia/Hyundai undertuned the platform so much. It's comfortable at 410-435 whp on pump gas with not increase in wear. Forged internals, and stock garret turbos can easily hold 475whp.
Agree
They detune because of the 10 year warranty. Regardless, the b58 can push 600whp with boltons.
Fueling is a issue with the genesí
Nothing beats the Ultimate Driving Machine!!
Always wanted that 340 but just don't want a thousand dollars a month payment.
Worth every penny for peak ICE
Yup. BMW is definitely not winning the "bang for your buck" award.
My short list was 2023 G70 and 2023 M340i. I knew the M was quick but couldn't justify the spend. Went with the G70. Coming in second to a beast is respectable!
Found a low-mileage 2022 CPO (Pre-LCI) and saved a bundle over new…definitely the way to go.
2016-2018 340i are the same car basically you don’t need an M340i when you can replace the TU Pump for $1000 tops
Damn the M340i never fails to impress at how hard it punches above it's weight.
Not really punching advice its weight. It's a $57K performance BMW. Fits right in its class. 👍
Sam, coming up with a banger again. It's a match up that no one ever produced on RUclips! As much as I love the BMW M340i in terms of performance, but that Genesis is a certified beauty! The Cadillac never disappoints as well. Overall I think they're all a great car it's just a matter of preferences. Greetings from Qatar!
Just bought a g70 sport. Love the car. Every aspect is perfect. Although if I had the money, bmw is more preformance oriented, but the genesis is more classy
It’s a classy Hyundai
@@eltingville81 That you can't afford. That's why you're here hating hard bro.
it will be a tough race for the American car
Cadillac didn't build the V to
Compete with these cars.
They have the blackwing
For racing and track times
Lovely drag race like it👍
Something in the lowergear transmision hold the cts back you can hear the sound cleary when shifting
I don't even know why BMW bothers posting hp figures lol. The 340i probably has more whp than the Gen and Caddy have at the crank
EDIT great race vid btw
Nah they have like 350-360whp (382hp) g70 has 330ishwhp (365hp)………idk about caddy.
the b58 in the supra makes around 380 whp
the b58 in the new 2022 m240i can push 405-410 hp at the wheel and 550 Nm stock torque figures which translates to around 440hp at the crank. It was dyno tested.
The real race was between the G70 and Cadillac. I have a G70 and know that the M340i was gonna win. A G70 with a tune beats the BMW.
if a g70 with a tune beats a stock m340 that means it sucks
He gets me everytime no matter what
@@ralph02136 it's true. It would beat a BMW if it was tuned.
This is an Excellent Matchup!
I swear BMW and Porsche lie about their numbers lol
Always
The undisputed king of this segment does it yet again
We really need a race between the CT5-V and the TLX Type S, they’re so closely matched on paper
Great Matchup! 3 great cars.
I know we are in a time when SUVs’ try to rule. But I’m with you Sam . . . I still love the sedan❤. Thank you Sam for bringing us excellent content my “brother”! 😊
Win or lose, I love those new caddies!
Nice but expensive! Most BW's are going over MSRP.
that was a close one. suprised at the 340 but id take the g70 cuz its unique and beautiful
My wife and I have purchased almost every BMW made since 1998 - spectacular machines!
Shows it’s not all about power and torque but proper gearing and proper tuning makes a difference
Genesis transmission is better than GM transmission
B58 is in a different kinda league 👑
Its only because BMW updates their engines more frequently than their competitors, whenever another company comes out with a new vehicle like AMG with its hybrid C63s and C43 they get walked… yes the w205 is slow to the G82 it came out in 2015 but when mercs release their new cars its over
What kind of wheels are on the M340i? They look good with the sapphire black.
I have the CT5 do you think it’s quicker when u manually shift it..?because in sport and when u manually shift it it seems faster…I love the bmw tho
That BMW walked all over them and I was looking to buy the Genesis but this race is changing my mind LOL
Never joke with the Bavarians!
Another great episode Sam.
Looks like you guys might have just spent the day earlier down the street at TMP?
I had a 2021 bmw m340i with only a racechip on it, no exhaust, no wheels, purely stock with the chip and did 11.95sec on the ¼mile, God I loved that thing
I just got a 2021 lol
That BMW makes more than 382 hp. BMW always tends to underrate the power
I swear they give numbers to the wheel labeled as crank.
While I expected the CT5V to lose at least the other driver made it a little competitive driving the Cadillac agains the Genesis. Sam you have to polish up your skills. You don’t get the most out the cars you drive.
For real, he also had a late jump on the drag #1
Caddy is also about 200lbs heavier since it's AWD
Sedans are the best great content as always sir👍
b58 and zf8 in addition to 48v is just a magic
Both the B58 in the BMW and 3.3 in the Genesis are underrated from the factory, so this makes sense.
M340i is on a completely different level here! M340i FTW!!
Damnit that Bimmer 🔥🌶️👌
What are you waiting for, Christmas? Start the drag race.
The Bimmer's HP is underrated for sure. No comparison
Glad I got a G70 over the m340 honestly the quality of the g70 and price can't beat it imo. And I get all heated and cooled seats. And the 3.3 is easily tunable and are know for a Kia at least to be able to be easy 500hp monsters.
What else is out there besides a piggy back tune and the normal intake/exhaust?
Lol
It was very obvious who will be leading the race before even watching it!
Do you think the 340i has more power than what they are saying?
Well, I be damn. I thought the G70 would be in last place with their semi-sporty 8 speed auto. Ditto to the 4 Series. What surprised me is the CT5. That car have 30lb ft of torque with a 10 speed auto, and still got smoked by the G70.
I think Cadillac is honest about the 360 hp though and I have always thought the 3.3T rated at 365 HP was a bit underrated, not BMW levels underrating lol, but not fully honest.
The g70 torque is around 380 to the wheels and correct 320ish hp
Just based on the fact that any BMW has far more after market support makes my buying decision sooooo' much easier.
Yea you can easily spend like 100k on it and still not be finished with it lml it’s already as much as a base m5 in the states
Indeed, that bmw did play a totally different game there. Maybe they will say was measured at very high altitude (😂), or just they had a waaaaay better intake cooling system. Also better transmission.
Sam, can you do a track battle? It would be interesting to see if the Caddy or the G70 could beat the lap time of the 340i. If you do, hopefully, they all have the same tires.
I think it would be even more humbling experience for other 2 cars as bmw usually dynamically excels in that class of cars!
@Layne I just watched both, and the only difference I see is the BMW's power on the straits! In the corners, the 340i wasn't that good. Understeer/ tire squeal. I believe if they had the same power, the Caddy would beat it.
@Layne the type s did it in 3:06, and the Caddy did in 3:04, so I'm not sure what video you watched. Also, under braking and turn in the Caddy was far more composed. I'm not hating on the 340i because I'm getting an 2018 m240i shortly so it's not like I'm a Homer.
@@frednugent8068 what was the G70 time? Speaking of, I saw a video of a RUclipsr (can’t remember who it was) but he raced both G70 RWD 3.3t and G70 AWD 3.3t and the RWD version was 6 seconds faster on the track!
@MarvelvsDC I saw a 2019 rwd lightning lap and it was a 3:07.
Haven't watched yet, but I bet the BMW M340i wins (because B58...)
EDIT: OF COURSE the M340i won, because B58! I was surprised that the Genesis G70 was a good bit faster than the Caddy. I did not expect that.
Love the M340i! I personally have a 21 hybrid M340i and it's one of the best cars i've ever owned! I recently test drive a M550i Xdrive and fell inlove with it!
That B58 is an absolute beast!
Yup, its also way more expensive......
If I knew the stats would stay this long I wouldn't pause the video to read them 😂
Yo do a video of a trd camry against the new lexus is 350f sport both got the same 0-60 mph time.
The Cadi Transmission seems to have a lag going on with higher rpms...knew the 340i would win...
I would be happy to own any three of these cars.
The B58 is a monster, no doubt, and clearly in its own league here. BUT, Race 1 was really the only one where it was in another county. With every subsequent race, the other two were more competitive.
yea because its also $15,000 more than the G70..... put that money into mod/tuning for g70 and it will burn the BMW.
U should really add those 0-60 and 1/4 mile times jus for reference
I asked this before and he said he is unable to find something reliable to do it I believe
@Blue Moon shit I use a dragy and mines pretty accurate and they have other ones much more accurate
I’d love to see a tuned G70 vs C43 VS M340i
@@layne4376 nah, what about a tuned m340 vs a 911 turbo s
@@layne4376 tuned g70 e30 g70 beat tuned e30 m340i on auto glory channel
The new 2023 C43 w206 is putting bus lengths on it
@@marsallen4298 that 4 banger isn’t touching any of these cars… guaranteed it’ll blow up before it even hits 100mph.
@Juan tf you mean its not touching anything the A45 already gaps the m340i with its 4 cylinders and NONE OF THEM have blown up💀 you sound like a hater you mad you’re gonna be studying AMG tail lights in your horrible sounding popcorn machine.
B-58 is so underrated
Sammy Car Legion, best Car channel on you tube!
I would love to see something like the CT5-V against a Elantra N. I think the EN would be faster than the Caddy
Just for value alone from the cars I’d have to go with the G70, interior is amazing as well
I would like to see the m340i vs the ct4 V blackwing
I would liked to see that too, also the 🏁ct5 v blackwing then we will see the best sedan 🏁
Yes!!
Didn't use the CT5 V launch control and there was no loud popping from the turbos during shifts, so I'm thinking he wasn't using Track Mode.... He also got treed everytime...
Man, that Caddy sounds like it really bogs down on every shift!!!!!
They turned out exactly as expected! The M340i owns this segment. The stock CT5V probably just edges out the TLX Type S as the slowest in the segment.
That v's gearbox is fucked lol
B58 FTW , that M is on another level !
I don't know...something seems off about the Caddy. I would look for a CTS-V Sport over the CT5-V. It should have at least 400 hp.