"If The Falcons Didn't Take Penix At #8, The Raiders Were Taking Him" | Pat McAfee Reacts
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Adam is a genius 🤣 talks super vague then will say he knew the whole time
"Something big" ok Adam.
“Jayden Williams will go #2” 5:36
That’s exactly what I was thinking. “ I knew the whole time”
Adam stated that Atlanta was interested in Penix the whole time.
Adam scheffter is going full captain hindsight 😂😂
The Monday morning quarterback thing.
He always does
He has good sources, despite people like you who try to clown him. For example, He called the Michael Penix/QB pick by the Falcons before it happened... and that's because he's well connected. ESPN has kept him around for 15 years now, and pays him about $9 million a year, so clearly there's a reason for that.
@@rockhaven4435 he's a piece of trash 😊
Schefter is the pro of “I knew it but didn’t tell you”
Every single one of them are, they are a joke but are “the guy” just due to their network
Adam Schefter is the worst. NO ONE had any idea the Falcons were going to take Penix
He is such a clown. He’s a snake oil salesman
It was mentioned. No one knew for sure but it wasn't a shock to some people.
Falcons fans had an inkling but were still surprised
And guy spins things 50 different ways and says “yeah I said that” like guy you literally said everything 😂
Dudes a snake I really wish he didn't come on the show
As a Raider fan im over the moon getting Brock with the 13th pick big time steal. Its pretty much guaranteed that 3 or 4 of the 6 QBs are gonna be busts
Pissed me off man I was literally waiting for him to fall in our lap and those dirty falcons just stole him like the grinch 😂😂
Don’t worry, the falcons were the ones that hurt themselves, again..
@@adamwilliams9487that’s the craziest part why get Kirk cousins but idk
@@dowhatiwantc7637Kirk cousins is like 34 or 35 years old it's not like he's 28 nothing nothing wrong with having a young QB waiting to take over the reigns. Cousins could get injured in his first game
Look where the Vikings draft every year. 11 is not ideal spot for picking a quarterback. That’s gone be the falcons floor with cousins
Right bro I was hoping he fell to the rams a pipe dream I know but a man can dream 😂😂
Raiders fans are more than happy to land Brock Bowers at 13
I'm sure they are...
Aidan O’Connell QB1!!!!
@@jasoneverett We are.
@@TurkJohnson-dc4rbAiden went 5-4 as a rookie that's pretty good, he did better then Peyton, Eli and Troy Aikman did in their rookie seasons
Lay off the weed!!! 🤣
As a Raiders fan, I'm good with our 1st & 2nd rounders.
Brock bowers is a great player but i thought Michael Mayer is a beast but was underutilized last season, I think y’all coulda drafted the best corner
The OC likes 2 TE plays, and he has two Dawgs to run them now. Plus Bowers is versatile as hell, so he can play slot and even RB sometimes. It was a great pick. No doubt we would’ve taken MPJ if he was there though
@@borntobehated1758bowers is more of a slot reciever/tightend. well lrob end up running a lot of 2 te sets
@@mymaynee5963 yeah i guess you guys could be lethal in 12 personnel, tight end is just not a premium position unlike corner, also 1st round tight ends don’t tend to workout but I guess we will just wait and see
@@borntobehated1758CBs are very very hard to draft In the first round especially higher in the 1st very rarely do they turn out. DJ Hayden, Gareon Conely, Damon Arnette all drafted by the Raiders in the 1st round recently and all were busts
Dogs in Atlanta when they hear a left handed QB named Michael is coming to town: 😳😳😳
Ngl I saw this comment and thought "wow that is a true coincidence"
😂😂
Stolen. Cringe.
Ab tweeted this draft night
@@adamwilliams9487 crying. Cringe.
I’m a Falcons fan, and half of the fanbase is good with it. Goes to show what a string of seasons with bad qb play will do
I actually like it because why not prepare for the future and at the same time keep the franchise competing at a high level. Plus cousins is not going to be the franchise qb 2 years max
As a Raiders fan , thank you Atlanta 👍
Kyle Pitts > Brock Bowers. Plus we have a qb.
@@kaii231Pitts isn’t even better than the 4th best wr in his draft class get outta here before you end in the psych ward with an opinion like that
Ur saying u really would rather just continue to be a mid team with minshew
Pitts is a beast. His hands are size of dinner plates and he runs like a deer. He’s been frustrated for 2 years cause we haven’t had a QB worth a damn. Now we have two - right now and in the future.
@@rip8564 DHOP put top 5 wr numbers with nobodies
Brock Bowers will be a beast I'm not worried
Raiders fan, I was very disappointed to see Penix not get drafted by us, thankfully our GM had a backup plan and Bowers fell to us
Pat I must say you have gotten better and better and that really says something. You don't flip flop but have actual conversations instead. It's such a relief and now I don't have to waste my time and become frustrated with other analysts. Just want to say great job and it's sincerely appreciated.
Suck up
I’m still shocked the falcons didn’t take Rome Odunze. Penix was a great fit in Vegas. My guess is he was the coach and GMs choice.
Arthur Blank wanted Cousins signed at all costs…. So Atlanta wasted 100 million on Kurt Cousins, and now will waste a year or 3 of Penix’s career letting Cousins start to save face.
2 max
what shocks me is that falcons fans literally think Cousins is gonna play a full 3 seasons that’s laughable 😂 they should be thankful they got a QB Cousins has Bum Ankles is almost 40 & has robbed every team hes played with by playing good enough too not lose his job but not good enough too make it past a wild card
The falcons have always been losers even if they make it to the Super Bowl and got embarassed
@@bdartmanlol why you upset, let them be its worse teams than atl
I’m sure Penix understands that the reason people think the decision is dumb isn’t due to his ability, but rather that he’s 24 and unless he just completely dominates a 12-year vet who has put up some gaudy numbers, given said vet’s contract he likely won’t see the field for until he’s 27-28 if all goes well for the team.
As a Raider fan, I was expecting them to target him if he fell. I would've been a little ticked if they moved up to take him. I honestly expected the Chargers to take Bowers but hindsight now, I'm kinda happy they came away with the haul that they got and laugh at the Falcons for the buffoonery they committed.
As a Raider fan I thank you ATL 🙏 Now we have a generational TE to match up with Davante, Jacoby Myers, and now… Michael Gallup. Weapons are crazy out in Vegas (Minshew is good enough to get the ball in these guys hands) Raiders ended up with a top 10 defense, so throw that in the mix as well 😮
R A I D E R S 🏴☠️
It’s funny that Raheem and that gm think they are gonna be here for 4-5 years 😂
Fr, can’t believe blank approved that
Best way to ensure it is good qb play.
I figured this had something to do with the Raiders but it’ll all play out for Tom Brady to play for the Raiders
I’m glad AP and TT didn’t waste a pick on a QB they didn’t want and instead bolstered the offensive line and put depth on Def. We beat the SB champs in their house on a Cold ass day and only completed 10 passes, we’re good here
I like our draft. No wide outs, no QBs. No reaches. Tight end Brock Bowers who is going to set Raiders records.
Falcons did the Raiders dirty 😂
I think the Broncos would have grabbed Penix. As a Raider fan I can live with that.
I'd rather have Bowers. Penix is too overrated right now he shud have been a 2nd or 3rd rounder. Im glad the Raiders got Brock over Penix
I agree.. broncos would've grabbed him
@@misguidedangel6550 Amen!
Falcons did them a favor
I had the raiders taking either Bo or Penix, can't believe Atlanta fumbled like that
I like how Shefter knows who was willing to trade up to 8 better than the team who had to take the actual calls from teams interested in trading up. SMH
Reading the tea leaves I get the feeling that the only offers they were getting were from teams that were interested in Michael Penix. And the Jets traded down a spot so not sure how interested they were in moving up to draft the OT. No OTs were taken after JC Lathem at 7 until the Jets at 11.
The owner of the Falcons didn’t know Penix would be in play😂😂
JD was always our choice. Let the legend of Bowers begin
The Falcons Signed a QB who just recovered from an Achilles injury for a staggering $180M and then Draft a QB who had torn his ACL twice...SMH
the MF was injury free for the past 2 years, TF you talkin bout, look at tua with the dolphins
@@R.Robinson8719 Lol you think if you tore your ACL twice you will not be like a glass? It'd NFL you know better than that
Falcons saved the Raiders from making a huge mistake 👍
I'm so glad we didn't draft penix
Give it time....that tune will change
@@Stinkinbadgez 🤣🤣🤣🤣sure thing dude
Yup same here I was so happy when we got Bowers, didn't even think it was a possibility
@misguidedangel6550 could be better than gronk if he pans out
As a Raiders fan I now hate the Falcons
Why? We got Brock Bowers I don't know why Penix is getting this hype hes overrated shud have been a 2nd or 3rd round pick
@@misguidedangel6550overrated ? 2nd or 3rd round ? Penix is a top 3 quarterback in this draft class he’s better than maye by a mile
@@Icanthearyouatall most every mock draft had Penix going round 2, some in round 3, the reason he went high is because so many teams were desperate for A QB this year. I haven't seen not a single mock draft or pre draft rating that has Penix higher then Maye. Not a single one. Penix has already had more injuries then most QBs have in their entire careers. He's not mobile and doesn't like to run. Today's NFL you need to have a mobile QB that will run and Penix does not run. But hey only time will tell, I'm just glad the Raiders got Bowers over Penix or Nix
@@misguidedangel6550 bro penix only con was his health history nothing to do with his talent he’s easily a top 3 quarterback in this draft class he outplayed the number #1 and when I say he thoroughly outplayed Caleb penix is going to be a stud
FALCON FEVER - TRUE BELIEVER!!! RISE UP!
Falcons did my Raiders a huge favor
Hey did you pick up your belt buckle in Bozeman during college game day last year that you wore on the Bill B interview. Montana Silversmiths?
Thank you Atlanta for not allowing the raiders to be the raiders 🙏🏽
As a Falcons fan, I love the pick. If you want your guy, you take him. Because if you miss out on him by trading back or in general, you're not going to be happy with yourself. Then we got our defensive picks in the middle rounds. We are set for the immediate future with Cousins, and we should also have our future set for the next decade. Penix will sit behind cousins for a couple years. Also, with our team as a whole and especially with Cousins as our QB, we shouldn't be anywhere near a top 10 pick in the next couple years. So the Penix pick is genius. Chess move.
Media after the Giants just paid Daniel Jones $160 million: "The Giants need to draft a quarterback at 6"
Media after the Falcons drafted a quarterback at 8 and paid $100 million for Kirk: "The Falcons shouldn't draft a quarterback at 8
My thing is the falcons just showed that they did tamper. The investigation is gonna end with Atlanta losing a first round pick next year. So if they did tamper and they are expecting that type of punishment then they will select a quarterback which they did
I’m not a Falcons fan but they are going to look like geniuses if Kirk gets hurt.
Thank you Falcons! Thank you, thank you, thank you.
You can sat that about any draft pick. Genius
As a raider fan....very depressing.
I walked out the sportsbook pissed 😤.
How? Yall got Bowers, who's got way more upside than an older rookie QB who's had two ACL tears
@@nateacosta1939 time will tell I guess
@@nateacosta1939 yes but just the roles of the positions, a good qb is more valuable then a good TE and they already got a TE that i've seen a lot of raider fans say they like.
@@nateacosta1939I'm a Raiders fan and I'm happier then all hell getting Bowers. Take Bowers over Penix 10 out of 10 times. Don't want a 24 year old QB injury history then doesn't like to run.
As a Washington fan for nearly 40 years it’s just great to see my team as not the most dumb team the last 20 years anymore with the new owners, Falcons and Panthers and Raiders enjoy the ride of misery.
Falcons should have worried less about the Raiders and more about the Falcons
I’d be so frustrated if I was Penix, would’ve instantly been starting and would show the league just how good of a thrower he was, now has to sit behind Kirk for years because falcons wanted to be greedy
Why tf wouldnt a team want to be "greedy" lol? they arent there to help the other teams
@@BuuhBlocks I’m speaking purely from the perspective of Penix, making a 24 year old quarterback who was pro ready sit for up to three years is bad for the team and his career
@@Forevermade32 Tell that to Aaron Rodgers and Jordan Love.
@@Forevermade32I think it’ll help him, him and Kirk are very alike and Kirk will show him what works and what doesn’t
Common misconception that all rookies should come in and dominate
This young man now has pressure -less atmosphere and a chance to develope hell,
He may even last in the league for 4 years before being tossed around
We all knew that 6 quarterbacks were going to be taken in the first half. However, no one knew about Atlanta drafting Penix.
It would surprise me if penix doesn't play in a regular season game next year......
The Raiders fans were not happy walking away with no QB.
Never put your Penix next to your Cousin
Penix was a 2nd rd value
Atl played it perfectly..dont alert anyone you taking a qb and let everybody sit back and not try to at least trade up to the chargers or giants..i believe broncos,raiders, vikings,saints,and Seahawks all wanted to get a qb like penix to at least sit a year or start an fontenot pissed on everybody parade.a lot of these analysts have teams that they like an love also..the ones that are whining the loudest about this pick are fans of those teams that wanted an needed a qb
Atlanta hasn’t played in perfectly in their history
ATL's GM said they took Penix at because they believe they won't be picking that high again due to signing Kirk. What he didn't say is, "we also don't believe one more weapon is going to turn Kirk into a Superbowl winning QB." They expect to be better, but understand they have a ceiling with Kirk. Which is why they're already looking towards the future after Kirk. They just need him to help the team win enough games to where they don't get fired before Penix can take over two years from now. Could they have done that with a cheaper QB? Sure, but if they don't get the guy they want in the draft, then they're in for another year of picking high in the draft with probably a worse QB class next year.
There is was no other free agent that was as good as Kurt falcons need to win a couple more games to put some more fans in the seats.
What happened to the Vikings when the same guy went down? I mean that solidifies Atlantas argument.
EXACTLY
I like Penix a lot, I was a huge Washington fan last season but his injuries are a red flag. If he takes one more bad hit to his legs he’s done. I’m not sure what ATLS major gaps on roster are but I feel like it definitely wasn’t the QB position
There was only ONE qb in the first round the Raiders wanted, and it wasn't Penix.
Penix was QB3 if Washington didn’t draft Jayden Daniels. Penix situation is the best. He’s a good dude and will get a couple of years learning from a seasoned QB. His 3rd year he can hit the ground running as a starter towards the 2nd contract jackpot. The other QBs are being forced to start and carry junk organizations.
Probably a blessing Penix gonna be injured half his career
The time on the sidelines will give his body time to heal. After 2-3 years, he will be hitting the ground running. At least pre-season will be fun to watch and gives us a teaser trailer re: Penix Jr.
Good for Garner Minshew!
When penix work out. You can have Kirk. He will keep getting checks.. he is getting paid to be a staring QB not a franchise QB. We got our QB in this draft. 0:07
I'm not sure if the guy is lying or not, but if he's right....I'm SO thankful the Falcons took him.
The Penix kool-aid is more addictive than Crack. I don't get wanting something with some much wear and tear So Bad.
I love how Schefter says something extremely vague like all 6 QBs were gonna go in the first round potentially early and then when it happens he brags like he knew the Falcons would pick penix
Saints, Seahawks and Raiders all tried to move into top 10 to draft Penix
I'm so glad pennix went before he went to the raiders. I love Minshew and every time he gets to be on a team, there is always some super high draft pick on the team ahead of him. He's on jaxsonville but they draft trevor larwence, he gets hurt and minshew plays great, then he gets traded to Philly and they already have Jalen hurts so he gets no chance to play, then he goes to Indy and they draft anthony richardson so he would never have played but richardson got hurt last year and in comes minshew and he plays fantastic and came within a few downs of making the playoffs. Then he goes to the Raiders and finally his team does not have some super high drafted qb so he will finally get a chance to start from day one. ( I have to confess, I'm a cougar fan) and I wish him the best. Watching him play most of his completions are short passes and he does throw too many picks but he's a real leader out there but I think people have always underestimated him.
My only real question if they wanted to have a QB on the bench and eventually take over for Kirk, why did they not take the 21 year old JJ McCarthy?
Yes, that makes sense. Quarterbacks tend to peak ability-wise between ages 25-29. Granted, there can be some exceptions and quarterback's numbers can fluctuate based on the health of the quarterback and the quality of teammates around him. Still, typically, those years are the peak of the quarterback's ability. Sitting Penix for several years completely wastes two to three prime years of Penix's career. Just imagine the Chiefs sitting Patrick Mahomes on the bench until he turned 27. Everything he has accomplished in the NFL never would have happened because he was on the bench, not playing. If you draft McCarty at age 21 and sit him for three seasons, he is 24 when he is a starter and he just entering the prime of his career. You do not waste any peak JJ McCarthy seasons on the bench.
JJ is a game manger nothing more
It was reported that the Raiders, Saints, and one other team tried to trade up into the top 10, which would have actually been the top 7, to take Penix, so he might not have been there if they traded back to 10. The Jets would also have to be willing to move up to 8 for a trade to happen.
Raiders knew wasn’t worth a trade at all.
Tbh us selecting bowers feel
Like a panic pick we thought penix was lock
I know Gardner Minshew is happy.
No doubt a huge playmaker like Bowers and then an OL in the 2nd rd
the move back argument doesn't work unless you know for sure what was offered...
Should’ve seen the look on Aaron Rodgers Face on Pat Macafee show when the Raiders selected Brock in the 13th pick 😂😂😂😂
To counter that the Falcons should have traded back to 10, the Falcons KNEW several (4) teams were after Penix. There would be the chance of Chicago trading back 2 spots and leaving the door open for Penix to go to another team if they could pull off a trade with CHI.
This is either gonna be good or bad depending on if Penix is injury prone
Falcons should have hired Belichick they wouldn’t have made this blunder of a pick lol
So true. AND they could have had Mike Patricia as the OC!
Decision ain't dumb. At least 3 other teams were interested in penix, We had to get Kirk to throw everyone off Penix trail and hide our TRUE intentions. Falcons played chess and all these talking heads were playing uno.
I clicked the video and in the brief moment before it loaded I thought to myself "man this show has changed a fair bit in the last 3-4 years" (in both good and bad ways).. and then Schefty's giant fkn face appears without warning.. word
It's gonna be a big night for qb's and there's gonna be some big news...wow Schefter you really called it! Wooo you're the next Ms Cleo. NFL teams need to call you for a readn!
After marino the dolphins went 20 years before they found a descent qb i think atl was smart dude can throw the ball
The only explanation I can think of is not trusting Cousin's health, but that leads to: why overpay for a stop gap quarterback? Something tells me the Falcons aren't the smartest organization, further evidenced with passing on Lamar Jackson when he was available.
Ravens were never giving up lamar and there was no better qb available that could also develop a qb. There you go.
@alejandrotellez2962 Well Kirk deal is really 2 years that’s where the money is they can get out on year 3 but they’ll have a dead cap hit
we'll see, this isn't something anyone can judge quickly. this is all speculation and opinions and everybody wanting immediate gratification. We'll see how things playout the next 2-3 years.
media talk is all negative when they don't do what fantasy/pff experts say is successful
Huge hedge. Pretty cowardly all around. But it could work
The Giants messed up. They could have gotten Justin Fields for a just a 6th round pick. If Daniel Jones stinks it up this year or gets injured (he is injury prone), you have probably the best backup QB in the league in Fields ready to go. And if Fields balls out, you might actually find out you have have someone who's better than Jones and could end up being your QB of the future. But instead they get a washed up Drew Locke? Come on, man. 🤔 smh
Hes be starting for the Raiders, not sitting behind a old man with no real success in the league coming off an Achilles injury. Oh yeah, they paid him 100 mil as well. Only the Falcons 😂😂😂😂
As a raider fan, thank you ATL, or offense is stacked now 💪😎
Just feels like they’re wasting Penix’s career. He won’t be seeing the field for at least 3-4 years. It would be different if it were the Giants taking him, him sitting and learning year 1 and then be given the keys to replace Daniel Jones. He’s drafted as Cousins’ permanent backup until Cousins leaves/retires…just sucks for him
Nobody has an issue with Penix. Ppl have an issue with a team that just paid 140m to a QB only to draft one at 8 which is a premium pick. Didn't improve the team with that pick
Penix ain’t that dude
Falcons don't sign BB but give a fat stack to Kirk Cousins thinking he's going to bring them to the superbowl. Falcons just keep doing it to themselves
Thank you, Falcons. We don’t need another bust😂
Moving back to 10 is def something they shoulda done, classic falcons
Penix would have been an amazing fit for the Raiders
Cousin better come to camp ready to compete! Penix is that good!
Does anyone need another reason to hate Atlanta? As if f***ing up their own draft isn't bad enough, they had to screw the Raiders as well, not to mention the career of a 24 year old who won't likely see the field until he's 27. It was such a stupid pick, the Raiders didn't even trade up because they couldn't believe Atlanta could be that stupid.
Falcons fan here and while I would have preferred an Edge. I’m ecstatic with the Pennix pick. Have you watched him spin it? Cousins is essentially on a two-year deal and this team needs veteran leadership. We drafted defense basically the rest of the way…
It's odd that Pat feels so strongly against this. Pat always talks about how he wished Luck had a year under Manning to learn the from. That is exactly what they are doing here, getting their future franchise to sit behind and learn from a top 15 QB that is well known for his preparation and dedication.
'plays how kirk plays" ... on the bench ?? hes gonna get that cane and crutch bag again lol
Schefter should be a billionaire if he knows so much. He knows what the compensation package would have been if they had traded back, he knows no other team would move up just like he knew the Falcons would take Penix...right? He went from insider to Ms Cleo.
Not just thanks to the Falcons, specific thanks to the Donkeys for picking Nix. You saved the Raiders from themselves.
Schefty needs to buy some new fences to sit on this off season. Jeez. The guy doesn’t commit to anything.
Let's be real they're doing one of two things either making him a career back up or paying Kirk cousins a bunch of money to sit on the bench
Cost cap isn't much of a worry anymore. Everyone's complaining about the $100 million for Kirk, but the cost cap is becoming less and less of a concern. It literally increased another $30 million this year and it will continue to do so. They have the quarterback position on lock for the next 10+ years if penix is who they thought they were. And the first two years go to cousins. I think its a great pick.
And to people saying they should have got an Edge, first of all there's no guarantee that he is a hit. Second of all, an edge is not gonna take a team to the next level, it just won't. Thirdly, they drafted another five defensive players throughout the rest of the draft.
SO GLAD the Falcons saved the Raiders from themselves.
He knew, but didn't report it... sounds legit. :D :D :D