Falcons shocking Michael Penix Jr. pick, was this a smart move? | NFL | SPEAK
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- Опубликовано: 25 апр 2024
- The Atlanta Falcons drafted Michael Penix Jr. with the 8th overall pick despite signing Kirk Cousins to a $180 million contract this offseason. Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, LeSean McCoy, and Dave Helman discuss if this was the right move by Atlanta.
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Signing an aging quarterback for $100 guaranteed coming off an injury is the only thing wrong here.
Idk why ppl don’t see this
You think about that before you pay him and draft a quarterback in the top of the draft.
Yeah then then get this young man to save this white man job if he gets injured again
Cousins is “aging” Michael penix is far from it
And drafting an injury prone player was better? Not a Falcons fan but I feel bad for them.
If Acho thinks something is a great move then it’s definitely a bad move.
He's an idiot but don't put that evil on us😂💀
I think you mean Shady McCoy😅😂
It's a good move cuz think about it Kurt don't got long and he might get hurt again
@@coreychillis9754 using that logic why would you sign him for a long term guaranteed deal then?
@@luicabral942 no I mean both of them.
Picking 8th who didn't think he would be there,no one.
The only defense is that they did not expect the QB would be available at 8th pick.
@@sandworld1432 No.
Penix was always gonna be there at 8... Maybe I should be a GM, coulda saved the falcons $100MM
@@justinsmith4158 yes I agree
@@justinsmith4158 That is why you won’t be a GM. From GM’s personal interest, signing Kirk Cousins and drafting Penix is the only way to keep his GM’s job the longest
Dave spitting facts they needed defense 😂😂😂
Because Dave though a journalist and reporter, does his own homework too. He don’t just rely on assistants notes
YES, WE DO!!!!
Lmao these guys dont know what they talking about🤣 thats why they want Dave in the show puts them to shame
Facts. Dave was cooking in this segment.
QB is the most important position. None of those pass rushers were all that. Turner went 17 but they wanted the falcons to get him at 8? Come on man! That should tell you something.
Do Joy and Acho not understand how rookie contracts work and how expensive Kirks contract is? There is no defending this pick.
Basing it off Jordan love having one good year is the craziest part of this imo. But if they really love Pennix it halfway makes sense
@carbon.the.christ5626 it don't even make a like of sense cause if that was the case the should have got a stop gap qb and not a 4 year long term deal it's kinda stupid
@@wwefanman1000Inly the first 2 are guaranteed.
yes there is yall just don't want to listen to it lmaoooo
The Falcons have a limited window of time to maximize the talent that they have and cousins was the best QB available to do that. A Smith was fired because of poor QB play. Regardless of pieces, without a QB you have nothing. Drafting Penix was also a great move for the future. If Kirk gets injured or ages out they have a viable backup. He also has time to learn behind Kirk instead of getting thrown to the wolves like Ridder and Bryce Young.
Aaron Rodgers was declining? He won 2 MVPs after
His last year in GB he didn't have one 300 yard passing game. That's why they say he was declining.
They year before he won that first back to back he was declining……. He won those back to back AFTER they drafted j love
No SB.
Rodgers statistically at the end of his time with McCarthy to his first year with Lafleur had declined even though they went 13-3 and got blown out by the 49ers in the NFC Championship in Lafleurs first year so the writing was on the wall maybe they should look at a future secession plan. The Packers never thought he was gonna win another 2 MVPs after they drafted Jordan. After the 2 MVPs though he had arguably his worst year since he was a first year starter so it made it easy to justify trading him.
Come on kirk won one one one playoff games in his 13 year career ....is that worth $100 million ?
I’m wit Dave 👍🏾it makes absolutely no sense to pay cousins that much money if you’re going to draft a QB first round.
Right im ngl they shoulda got the pass rusher from UCLA 😂
Yup then draft a QB who you know might get hurt again so now they need a rookie to cover for them
It’s easy the QB they wanted was there so they took him it’s not hard to understand if penix was off the board they don’t draft a QB he just fell in their lap idk how yall not understanding that
I'm a saints fan. And I hate to admit it I agree with acho falcons are thinking long term. If pennix can stay healthy they have their QB of the future. Kirk got 100 million guaranteed. That's 2 years. Pennix get 2 years, 2 more drafts to learn the NFL and get bigger and healthier. Imo
my god man that kirk signing was a security blanket for terry. no matter what this team has to make it to the playoffs or terry is fired. in that market kirk was the best qb available. in the interview after that pick raheem said that "hopefully we'll never draft this high again" and just listen to the way terry responded. he knows..
Dave the only person here making sense, and he was making so much sense
Agreed 💯
Exactly! He made so much sense even shady changed his view lol
@@AtlNola1 Shady didn't change Dave's view. They simply agreed.
@@rcbrown22 nah I’m saying initially shady was saying it was a great pick. Then after more dialogue he agreed with Dave that it didn’t make sense to sign cousins , or/and draft penix . My bad if I wasn’t clear lol these comments can be confusing
As usual.
FS1 Producers : rock paper scissor; losers have to defend the Falcons.
Falcons made the best move .. only people that disagree are the people who never played the players all agreed
@@GreenlightBzeDefend your position without attacking others.
@@tpipandpop4242 tell me where did I attack him ? Don't throw rocks and run .
@GreenlightBze you wanted them to say publicly that their possible future starting qb was a bad pick?
@@thekillabum they stayed at 8 to get him I wholeheartedly believe they regret paying Kirk 180 but might be ok with the 30 mil dead money if he's traded in 1-2 years
Thank you dave for being the adult in the room idk what everyone else up there talking about
Y’all just hate the falcons😂😂 we got one of the best quarterbacks in the draft we not complaining but y’all is
@@quandaone3366 Yes. We are. This was stupid. We got one of the best quarterbacks in the draft so you think. Look at history there is most likely only 2 qbs in this draft that will be good and im pretty sure they went in the first 2 picks.
@@quandaone3366💯 these couch “gms” always have something to say just laugh at them fam
@@musiconanotherlevel look at the tape and stats then come back and mpj led his team to the natty
@@quandaone3366 Im assuming you didn't watch the game tape of the natty. 27/51 2 tds and 1 pick. Yeah thats going to win a Superbowl. Tape doesn't look better than Kirk's in the NFL.
Herbert did start his first game he just wasn't supposed to lol
He started week 2, and it was only cuz the team doctor punctured the starting quarterback’s lung
@@marcusmcgraw3519that to me showed if the man upstairs got a plan, ain’t nun yu can do to stop it 😂😂
@@marcusmcgraw3519the Dr stabbed him on purpose....
I was just about to say that lol@@marcusmcgraw3519
@@Jaybrown223 Yeah usually when a doctor injects you with something, it's intentional
Why is acho talking about mooney and rondale moore like they are some star wrs😂
because he is legit stupid.. he never explains why he never lasted 4 years in the league
Mooney is a star go watch the tape
They have two better receiver options in Pitts n London didn’t need stars the needed good threats
@@quandaone3366yea log off😂
Because they added them this off-season and they're just as talented as players going to be picked in draft .
Michael Lombardi just destroyed the falcons GM on Pat McAfee show and it was hilarious. Even brought up how they did the same thing last year at RB drafting Robinson when Tyler Algeirs just had a great rookie year. All these luxury picks like they haven't won 21 games in 3 years.
He went full savage it was very funny. 😆
Yep I watched it live lol Terry going to be fired if Failcons don’t at least win a playoff game
Having Robinson and Allgier won us some games too even with our bad QB play
Getting Dallas turner would have done nothing for winning this year he’s not that good of a prospect… none of the defensive players were.
@@jefeseason4990 nobody in the draft was good?
Like if you here only for joy?
Ya Dave clowned everyone with that take spot on
I LOVE THIS SHOW!!!! The quotes alone are worth it. “Plan for the future while taking care of the present”. That’s so true on so many levels!!!!!
Saying the Falcons are winners in this draft tells me everything I need to know about if these dudes actually do research😂😂😂
Facts every sports show are talking about the falcons and this topic. As a Jets fan living in Georgia it's a hot topic
Facts
Because the crowd is always right right?
And how they are not winners? They got one of the best quarterbacks in the draft
You must have not seen Penix go undefeated last year
I could understand this pick more if Penix was younger… like shady said he potentially wont even start till he’s like 26-27
26 is still very young for QBs now. By the time Penix is 26, the league will be flag.
Where’s James Jones for this segment?? I guarantee you he would say this was stupid
No he wouldn't. The only people that are really disagreeing are fans and analyst. All the players kinda agree
@@GreenlightBze No anyone who knows anything about football or cap space knows this is dumb.
If we win, it doesn’t matter what we wasted. This is a huge security blanket.
WE WONT WIN WE HAVE NO PASS RUSH!!!!
And if we don't win, fire the front office. These dude aren't smart enough
Right , If the falcons are winning games this is all irrelevant
That's a big IF though
I'll admit that I was originally surprised by the pick, but now I understand it. When an unexpected pick becomes available...especially at QB, you scrap the original plan.
was it really that unexpected? They picked at 8. It is no surprise to me that a quality Qb was still on the board. It would different if they were out of the top 10.
Who thought Penix was going top 7?
@@dysonspheretxi Nobody, because ATL gave Kirk Cousins all that money. If ATL could see the future, an injured Kirk Cousins doesn't get that deal and clearly ATL would have selected Penix. Easy work!
The problem is they paid cousins 180 mil when they could of used that money in free agency and sign a cheap bridge qb until penix ready
No guarantee Penix would have be there.
The Falcons have a limited window of time to maximize the talent that they have and cousins was the best QB available to do that. A Smith was fired because of poor QB play. Regardless of pieces, without a QB you have nothing. Drafting Penix was also a great move for the future. If Kirk gets injured or ages out they have a viable backup. He also has time to learn behind Kirk instead of getting thrown to the wolves like Ridder and Bryce Young.
@@alcozar5905 I don't think I've seen a single mock draft that had Penix going before 8. Like not even one
@@343Filmsthat’s why they’re MOCK drafts though. It’s not an exact science. Nobody knows what’s going to happen. Also, consider that the rumor now is that Seattle, New Orleans, and Minnesota were trying to move into the top 10 to get Penix. Sometimes you gotta throw the mocks out the window and go with your gut and get your guy.
@@redsky4430 How is it a great move? You think Penix is going to be good coming off the bench? The Falcons paid Kurt top money which will hurt them for 4 years. Then they have to pay Penix which isn't going to play for 3-4 years.
If they were drafting a QB for the future, why was it Penix and not McCarthy? Penix is 24 years old and is already fully developed to play now. McCarthy is more talented, is 21 years old and needs to sit and learn before being in a starting role. By the time Cousin’s contract ends Penix will be 28 years old and if Penix starts before Kirk’s contract ends they’ll still be paying Kirk alot of money. I can understand drafting a QB to sit under Kirk, even though Atlanta NEEDS help on defense, but why was it Penix out of the 3 still available?
We prolly keep cousin 2 seasons
And it’s insurance too . Ima fan, it’s confusing … but defense went late last night & we can find some one with our other picks we have a lot this year
@@savexvimediateam1430 even then Penix will be 26 years old and you’ll still need to pay Kirk a lot of money to cut him after 2 seasons or to sit him on the bench
How could they have known they could get Pennix though? Folks not acknowledging that. They could've waited and missed out on Kirk,and walked away without a QB they liked.
Bro I can't believe this is a real question😂😂 JJ should've never been ranked over penix 😂😂 penix passed for more yards than jj's ENTIRE CAREER in one season👀👀 tf do y'all see in jj is The question
Its crazy that Shady can control the panel😅 lol
He’s shady why not
@@YourJamaicanChief wtf that supposed to mean?
Atlanta is dumb no matter who plays. Duh
@@YourJamaicanChiefyu said that like he Eric Dickerson 😂
@sleepycroc man don’t do that 😂😂😂😂
Their whole argument is based on this supposed seamless transition from Kirk to penix, where as a more likely scenario is that this is very messy situation where you have 2 qb’s who should be starting creating unnecessary pressure on the other, like come on guys
Not necessarily. If Kirk is good, that means they’re winning games and in contention. In that context, managing having another good quarterback is a good problem to have and will be able to deal with that fine. And if both are proving to be good, you can always trade one to a team looking for a good qb.
Echo, you're not making any sense. they wasted a first round pick on a player that not going to play for three years, especially you paying a player first round money to sit for 3 years, that ridiculous seriously
2 years
It's been done before twice with Rodgers and love
Oh and everyone acts like Penix isn’t injury prone. He has had 4 season ending injuries just in collegiate football! Acho is a gotdam nut!
Bro hasn’t gotten hurt since 2021. It’s safe to say he might have gotten over the injury bug
I wouldn’t call that injury prone though. Bad luck maybe because of the kind of injuries. No small knickknacks or anything so i think he’ll be fine
@@johnathan250able he hasn’t gotten hurt since 2021 also so he definitely should be fine
@@DerQuanDoucettI means he was behind the best Oline in college that helps also
@@marcelstewart9156 they where good but they wasn’t the best
The issue with the pick is not penix. And it isnt kirk cousins. They are not the problem. It's the falcons. Win now means win now. When spending a top 10 pick on a back up you're telling your team we're looking towards the future. You're also telling kirk you're on the clock and you probably wont finish the deal you just signed. You're also telling your 24 year old rookie qb with superstar talent that he cant make a mark in this league until he's like 27 or 28. This is so dumb
But think about it, Kirk been in the league 12 years and you’ve only seen one playoff win. He will make sure we win in regular season but we’re giving him 2 years to prove hisself if not then we move on to penix because our roster is ready!
@@tajayaeanderson4848 "but think about it, kirk been in the league 12 years and you've only seen one playoff win."
TELL THAT TO THE TEAM THAT PAID HIM 100 MIL GUARANTEED AFTER COMING OFF AN INJURY WHILE KNOWING THEY HAD THE 8TH PICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he's been in the league. there's no more proving that needs to be done. this move shouldn't be to see how much better kirk can get. it's supposed to be the thing that pushes the team over the top cause every other need is addressed(that part hasn't happened yet).
What everyone is missing is the Falcons GM came from the Saints and was there when they missed on Pat Mahomes to be Brees predecessor. He wasn’t gonna do that again.
That point is irrelevant. Kirk isn't Drew Brees. Don't sign kirk if that's what he was trying to avoid. Just go get pat mahomes
Umm predecessor? Do you mean successor?
@@thetrib1they needed a qb for now and Kirk wanted long term money. They did what they needed to do
@johnathan250able yes and the draft comes later. Been that way for a little bit now. They knew QBs would be available after the 3rd pick. Trade up and go get him if you need to. The falcons aren't a qb away from the superbowl.
@@thetrib1no there was qb needy teams prior to Atlanta's pick
Dave said exactly what I was going to say so that’s that
This was actually a really great video which explained both sides very well, and it's easy to understand. Good job guys! I actually quite like the pick but that's just me.
What if neither works out ? We've seen that too. Look at the Redskins in 2012. Drafted RG3 and Kirk Cousins in 2012. Neither got a 2nd contract, both guys ended up leaving, and you got no playoff wins out of either. That's the scenario people haven't brought up that I know of
How bout Joe Montana and Steve Young? That worked out well.
@@my-merethoughts5742 the problem is the Falcons don't have the type of roster to support both those guys & what you're banking on with that example is that one of these guys becomes a Top3 QB ever and the other becomes a Top15ish or so qb ever. That's highly unlikely
@@jctslice Actually...I'm expecting a lot less, which makes this situation more feasible.
People not even realizing that the fact falcons just signed a QB the other teams probably thought they wouldn’t pick a QB which is why he fell to them
Great point. 🎯
People thought Falcons management wasn't insane enough to draft for a position they paid at least 100 M's for, and they were wrong. Not really a flex by the Falcons
Boom!
Dave on point this take!
This crew got me agreeing with Dave of all people
They sign 180 million dollar QB coming off injury when they could’ve gotten one of the best pass rushers in the draft
All these idiots are concerned about the money the Falcons spent. It's not your money! Don't worry about the cost. If Kirk balls out and the Falcons make the playoffs, and even have some success in the playoffs the next two seasons... awesome. Money well spent. But the training and the sitting behind a seasoned veteran is not being considered strongly enough. It's valuable for Penix. Then he comes in and balls out and the Falcons don't skip a beat! It's logical.
It’s always about the money, it’s all called market caps
Wow! You nailed it out of the park! Very logical comments!
If i was in charge Kirk Cousins money would've gone to signing Tee Higgins assuming a trade could get done with the Bengals
Imagine if the pulled that move off and still drafted penix 💀.
They weren't about to let tee Higgins go
@@onthemarc81 for the right price yu never know
Media after the Giants just paid Daniel Jones $160 million: "The Giants need to draft a quarterback at 6"
Media after the Falcons drafted a quarterback at 8 and paid $100 million for Kirk: "The Falcons shouldn't draft a quarterback at 8"
Those who knew anything about this draft didn't expect Penix to go before 8.
I hate that as an eagles fan I like Dave as much as I do but I enjoy Dave commentary
Acho is a fool. Drafting pennix when they could have drafted a position guy doesn't help the team immediately...he's not making sense. I'm not criticizing the pick but he's using circular logic
You will be the same guy that wont admit you were wrong when it all works out.
Hence forth like the Candy "Now and Later" Arr Arr. LOL!!!!
Masterful move by the Falcons in my personal opinion and this is coming from a New Orleans native and Saints fan!! Joy is 1000 percent and perfectly summed up many of my thoughts on the situation! This is how you find and secure your QB situation in today's NFL!
“Didn’t expect penix to be there” ??? At 8?? Hahahaha
Yeah it doesn't make much sense. And also they would've been the next team after the top 3 that were looking for a QB. They would have the best chance after the top 3 to get a QB. Whether that's trading up from 8(the closest distance out of every other team) or waiting till 8.
its been reported that 3 teams were trying to trade into the top 10 to get him...
@@AJ-zt6mf and guess what? The falcons were already in that top ten. The team with the best assets to trade up for someone like Penix was the falcons. There is no good justification for what they did
@@thetrib1 so let me get this straight... there is no justification for trying to win now and later? after going through mariota, heinicke and ridder? the biggest gripe with this team was that they weren't taking the qb position seriously, and when they do, and show they have a plan now its a problem??? lmfao yall got it
@@AJ-zt6mf there’s too many holes in the roster. They over corrected and now they lost out on a quality edge rusher. Do you understand the concept of over correction? Or nah
But they have defensive needs more than QB though 😂😂😂
Can you point to a team last season that lost because they didn’t have one pass rusher?
Got several picks to address that.
@@brandonwalker9383 A team always needs a solid pass rusher can you name one on the Falcons 😂 dont say Grady Jarrett he's a D tackle
@@shonuf5152facts they drafted defense with every pick so far
thats true, but this is a very talented qb draft class. they have no clue if they'll lose a first next year, don't know about '26. you have a chance to take one of the better quarterbacks from this talented draft class who some would say would be a number 1 qb in other classes. with kirk you are not drafting in the top 10 again to get one of the best quarterbacks. vikings had the problem last year with trying to trade up to get anthony richardson. you do not know when's the next time you could get the opportunity to be in this type of situation again so im not mad for them taking the qb.
I find it baffling that they didn't even tell Kirk about it lol But as a Bears fan, I'm not complaining that they passed on Odunze since we ended up with him :)
We need Dave up here more often! Seems to be the only real journalist.
I can't believe I am agreeing with Acho. But that future Falcon graph brings the point home. Kirk is an expensive bridge QB but two years from now paying him 40 million a year will be below avg and having Penix will be seen as a smart move.
I was agreeing with Acho until I realized they could have just gotten a cheaper bridge QB. If you know Kirk is not the guy to get you to the superbowl and you're at the very least interested in drafting a QB this year or next year, why not get a much cheaper option like Jacoby Brissett like Dave said? This is an overpriced hedge bet imo.
@@sunnydays405 Atlanta's offense was ready so Atlanta got the best QB available for about $45 million/year. Daniel Jones is getting $40mil/year so that's not a bad price. You are set at QB for now. Then draft happens and the 2nd best QB for the next two years falls to Atlanta at the 8th pick, Atlanta has to take Penix, and then sort out the details later. I think it is a brilliant move by Atlanta to get Penix. And I am thinking he is going to be playing this year as I don't see how Kirk is going to last the entire season. But time will be the final judge if it was a good pick or not...
Exactly
@@sunnydays405there’s levels to bridge QBs .. Kirk is a bridge QB who will win a lot of regular season games … again ppl are also skipping over the fact that Penix wasn’t suppose to be available
the move was dumb given that the falcons signed $180 million away to kirk (with a lot of it guaranteed). either kirk looks bad off an acl tear and being "old" which leads the falcons to move forward with penix, costing atl this massive contract or kirk looks like kirk and plays well in a weak division, making the playoffs and keeping a not-so-young rookie on the bench. you lose something regardless of how the season goes
They can easily front load his guarantees and he could be traded in 2 years I think both of them will be good
Acho’s arguing that Raheem Morris being a defensive coach is sufficient enough to cover for the lack of defensive talent is weird. Certainly could’ve used an edge rusher or even added to the OLine depth OR snatched Odunze to pair with London lol
I think this conversation is the reason why NFL is great. Because In other sports it’s draft than free agency
Shady thinks that basic common sense means that you can give a good take 😂😮😅. Shady gets a pass, and im trying to see why???
Shady is that guy in the barber shop who talks a lot but is never actually saying anything.
I think he took one too many blows to the helmet.
Cause he has 2 super bowls. Which he didn’t even sniff the field💀
I was so let down by Joy’s take. I was hoping she would set them straight with common sense but she threw a curveball
Literally the only teams that actually needed a qb before atl was. Chicago, Washington, New England, & New York (maybe) and we knew the first 3 weren’t going penix and New York has so much invested in jones they probably wouldn’t go that route either and the chargers have Herbert and titans have Levis so you could assume that penix would absolutely be there at 8. It wasn’t a shock he was available it was a shock he was taken there
People who bring up what kirk has done are missing the point. If kirk isnt good or youre worried about his injury then why pay him knowing you wanted penix? You made dinner reservations to two different restaurants at 8pm and already paid for both.
He's 36.. coming off ACL.. only won 1 playoff game .
I like the pick however at the same time i want to see Penix Jr start and play.
They wanna mold him more cuz they know Kurt gonna get hurt again
@@coreychillis9754 outside of the one injury Cousins has been healthy for years.
@@tomvan6008so that means he was just incompetent in the playoffs...
@@Jaybrown223 As he has been since HS Im from Michigan seen it with my own eyes
@@nicstone3141 i believe you bro...i actually liked kirk when he was in Washington.
Love joy rocking that hairstyle would look great black as well.
I thought the same thing.
The real MVP in all these Kirk Cousins discussions is his agent. His contract discussions since being in the NFL need to be studied.
Apparently all that matters is QB just draft QB’s who needs lineman, wrs, or defensive players?
Sean Payton, was considered a good mood getting rid of Russell Wilson because of his big contract, if kurt doesn’t live up to expectations, why can’t Atlanta do the same thing and already have a quarterback waiting
No trade clause
The Broncos are still paying Russell Wilson. His contract is terrible for the Broncos.
Sean Peyton destroyed broncos salary cap like he did the saints. He terrible decision making puts the teams in bad place. Acho is not a good analyst
@@52delvonthey can just cut him if he's not getting it done.
@@user-hm6pe3is4e they can but at the cost of their salary cap it just won’t look good if he’s cut and they still have to eat 100mil
People keep talking about the first round but forgot there 7round,in a draft you can get your QB off the future now and make up for it in the 2nd and 3rd round and so on,most gem or in those round anyway I like the move
Bro got a rock arm he’s a beast real talk in he got time to learn ❤
The guy in the grey suit (Dave) spoke the most sense, sometimes when I watch this the others just speak for the sake of speaking.
Having a real journalist like Dave balances the show out, send JJ back to the bench we don’t need all players but joys melons are always a pleasant sight
James is the best one. Get rid of Ocho and Shady.
Nah james has good balanced takes. So to me shady can go. He has some terrible takes. Can't get rid of joy because I'm sure they like having a female talk sports and she's easy on the eyes. Can't get rid of acho because he's kinda the host. So shady can go and I would be fine but keep james
Paying someone guaranteed money for 2 years and not giving any help for Cousins this season...ok Atlanta...will try to win a Superbowl in 2 years 😊
They have help . Plus the draft isn't over at the 1st round
14:30. Ocho shows a few mins earlier a graph showing QBs play to older ages (but saying that to back up Penix), then says Cousins is not the future bc of “age”.
…end though Cousins’ age perfectly fit to it the first graphic about “older QBs”.
Ocho tries but me usually makes no logical sense.
When my falcons host the nfc championship next year with Penix, keep all this energy.
Arthur Blank woke up this morning and said "my GM did what with my money"
*Plot Twist* This has Arthur Blank hands all over it, Arthur Blank has the final say on most acquisitions.
Acho is clueless. The issue isn't the Penix pick, per se, it's the Penix pick coupled with the Cousins signing. The move makes ZERO sense. If they wanted to go this route, they should have signed Jacoby Brissettt (or fill in the blank) for one year - not Cousins for four.
They didn't know Pennix would be on the board. You could've not signed Kirk,waited til the draft and ended up with nothing.
@carbon.the.christ5626 If you wanted Penix, then you trade up to get him. Sitting around and pray that a team doesn't get your player is how you lose in the draft. Chiefs did it with Mahomes, Bears did it with Tribusky. We understand Tribusky didn't work out, but Mahomes did.
No you are clueless lol 😆 Falcons knew cousins was never long term he’s a bridge quarterback he always was
@@masonr5677You don't pay bridge quarterbacks 180M. That's for franchising level players. They could have traded gotten Gardner Minshew and have sit Penix for a year. Of course Falcons choose the dumbest and most expensive way to do business.
@@masonr5677 "never long term" - they literally just signed him to a long-term (4 years) deal, genius. That's my point. Do the world a favor and don't breed.
Drafting penix was not the bad move but it just highlights how bad signing Kirk was lol
Shady compares Kirk to Dak, and if Dallas re upped dak for 180 and drafted a qb top 10 he’d be rolling on the floor
I love the move it always works out for the Green Bay packers this way. Kirk Cousins might not be healthy anyway
FS1 in general? Joy talks in generalities, can’t talk scheme or break down plays. Skip Bayless? Bruh you don’t have to make yourself only white dude on Undisputed. Hire Max Kellerman 😆
U BEGGED FOR DAVE AND NOW HES HERE YOO
SAS can't talk scheme either and he "talks" football
@@FaceFamousthat’s espn standards lol
You think viewers want to hear about schemes😅?
@@carbon.the.christ5626 yeah I want to hear some substance with the banter. Makes the debate shows more fun. Actually prime undisputed with Shannon and Skip was good because it grew in that way. Even Skip had to prep more from the challenge, to hang lol
Best case scenario with this pick is they wasted 100 million dollars, that’s why it’s horrendous
Fantastic move by Falcons, as a Lions fan, i don't want the NfC getting better 😂
Who in the flying F expects Cousins to finish 2 years. It’s not 200 million it’s 90 million guaranteed. I love the pick.
Facts 💯
Bring back Dave PERMANENTLY . Less generalities, can even talk positional scheme. Does stats homework and humble. Lately seems more and more Joy phoning it in. Like she got coached to be sassy, compared to first weeks she actually provided more context. More herself not a character before 🎉
Shady hates him . I like Dave too , and Dave makes it known that he knows shady don’t like him . Gotta be awkward lol
Agreed 💯
@@jonathancruz7848weird I like both shady and Dave, partly cause their cowboys vs eagles talk is entertaining…. but actually substantive without Dave just pushing cowboys on everyone. He’s pretty objective for a journalist covering them a decade in Dallas
Is there any valid reason for why shady doesn’t like Dave? I don’t understand how anyone can dislike Dave
David sucks. Period.
After last year the falcons are so right for making sure they’re good
We paid 180 MIL to win now........ If he don't work towards that in 2 yrs he traded. And yall go look at the tape on Trice I don't think we missed on Turner
Brandon Weeden started at 29 and was trash also it shortens his career 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
How old was Aaron Rodgers when he started?
That defense is going to give up 38 points per game go Atlanta 😂
Aaron Rodgers and Jordan Love each sat for three years. Mahomes sat for one year. Cousins can start for three years while Penix learns. They can trade Cousins heading into year four and start Penix, depending on how far they go into Super Bowl contention. If Penix shows promise, the Falcons can pick up Penix's fifth-year option and work on his massive second contract.
To Achos blackjack analogy, the Falcons had 17 and still hit when the dealer was showing a 3. You either have the 17 with Kirk after paying him 100 mill guaranteed and still choose to hit when the dealer is showing 3 (Penix).
Dave is a great football mind. Thinking the same thing and not focusing on talking points. He needs his own show!
No he isn’t ! He’s just conservative like the cowboys . He’s a dak homer too ! That’s why he feel so connected to cousins .. cousins ain’t that guy . 1 playoff win , less than .500 record in career against teams over .500 .
😂😂😂 foh it’s just an opinion of his
Excellent move especially for Penix. He gets a chance to apprentice under a veteran leader. Love it.
But the issue is Penix is already 24 years old, and I think he has the talent to start immediately.
How,he already been in college for two teams for six years,no way he wants to sit for 2yr or 3
👏🏾 they brought a REAL one too ATL
Perfect move
Honestly its just inconsiderate of Penix... he will be 24 soon... and ur telling him he will basically not get a chance to fight for a better contract until he is 26?
This doesn't help Kirk Cousins he needs help now and I'm not a Falcons fan
This was brilliant by the falcons. This keeps offensive players happy. Thw wins will keep fans happy. And tge future looks bright. Great job. Gamble big win big.
I dont understand why ppl don't understand what the falcons are doing....the falcons did not sign kirk cousins with the belief he's their future they got home because ticket sales,they have Bijan Robinson and Kyle Pitts unhappy, they will lose games but still be exciting to watch while also grooming a qb for a future...even if kirk balls out the next year or two you can easily trade him to a desperate team or a team looking for a bridge quarterback...
That GM got some big nuts to make that pick. Did y’all see the owner talking to him last night? 😂😂😂 I was scared for him
Exacty. Arthur blank wanted cousins but the GM and coach wanted Penix
What if you lose now and later? 🤔
We need more of Dave…
Joy it’s a $35 million cap hit to move off of Kirk after 1 year…
People are also forgetting that there is a good list of studs still available in F.A. There also gonna be cheaper after the draft because the need/ leverage isn’t there anymore.
Both sides make perfect sense. Nobody is questioning the pick, nobody is questioning getting Kirk, they’re questioning why pay Kirk all of that money?
Acho got it right this time !!!!!!!!!!!!
Dave > James
Dave better than them all 😂
Penix Jr is the definition of a “LUXURY PICK”
the woman makes all the sense this time. i rarely agree with her but this time she’s right